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Thread Number: 95500
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
Found out something about Whirlpool direct drives.... |
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Post# 1201747 , Reply# 1 3/18/2024 at 09:55 by GELaundry4ever  (Nacogdoches, TX, USA) |
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whirlpool direct drive I never knew that. I still wonder why some motors had that low F pitch when on high speed during agitation while others didn't. | ||
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Post# 1201748 , Reply# 2 3/18/2024 at 10:06 by rinso (Meridian Idaho) |
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We've had 2 DD's in the past, and the observations here about the pitches of the two pump types are dead on. Also, our newer DD was less likely clank through neutral drain into spin. | ||
| Post# 1201753 , Reply# 3 3/18/2024 at 10:59 by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan) | ||
Thank you for showing that, the difference is very obvious on that impeller. These pumps sounded thrilling, but clearly Whirlpool thought they were “too loud” which is probably why they updated them around 1995. If it doesn’t leak or have any issues, don’t replace it! Our old roper had the older transmission and pump and it was a very exciting machine to listen to as a child.
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| Post# 1201758 , Reply# 4 3/18/2024 at 11:31 by ron350 (Birmingham, AL.) | ||
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DDFan92 thanks for the information. I am always glad to learn something new about Whirlpool Direct Drive washers. | ||
| Post# 1201760 , Reply# 6 3/18/2024 at 11:41 by DDFan92 (Boise ID) | ||
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No problem Ron. | ||
| Post# 1201772 , Reply# 7 3/18/2024 at 14:39 by BlockEight88 (Northwest, IN) | ||
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| Post# 1201774 , Reply# 8 3/18/2024 at 16:05 by dominic20 (Souix falls) | ||
i did not  | ||
| Post# 1201798 , Reply# 10 3/18/2024 at 19:55 by BlockEight88 (Northwest, IN) | ||
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Steven | ||
| Post# 1201806 , Reply# 12 3/18/2024 at 22:22 by ron350 (Birmingham, AL.) | ||
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Which couplers are you refering to? I have only seen two style couplers the round one with round pins and the triangular ones with teardrop pins.
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| Post# 1201811 , Reply# 13 3/19/2024 at 06:24 by BlockEight88 (Northwest, IN) | ||
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Coupler | ||
| Post# 1201831 , Reply# 14 3/19/2024 at 13:42 by maytaga806 (Howell, Michigan) | ||
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Yes, I bet any money Whirlpool changed the impeller to quiet the pump more. We had a 1994 Roper that had the older gray pump, and now I have a 1996 Whirlpool which has the newer style white one, which is definitely the original to this machine so between those two years Whirlpool definitely changed the pumps.
Matthew, It’s funny you say that cause I was going to leave a comment a while back on your video about switching that pump out on your 1994 Kenmore when you had mentioned it in a video, and I probably should of at the time that way it didn’t get thrown out. The older pumps are much more exciting sounding, and definitely more reliable as the new ones tend to not last very long I’ve been told here and by customer reviews of them. Checkout JayKay18’s videos of his 1994 Whirlpool on YouTube, it sounds identical to how our Roper sounded with that older pump and transmission if you haven’t ever heard it before, it’s a great example of how much more exciting these machines once sounded. | ||
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Post# 1201833 , Reply# 15 3/19/2024 at 14:11 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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 Are any of you aware that KA (some models if not all) used a different pump with a larger-diameter output port that has a flapper valve presumably to reduce suction noise during agitation? The drain hose, of course, must match it.
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| Post# 1201834 , Reply# 16 3/19/2024 at 15:13 by DDFan92 (Boise ID) | ||
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DADoES: Yep, some higher-end Kenmores I believe also had those "check-valve" pumps. I've even seen some on ebay that had that and were the old gray style. | ||
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Post# 1201876 , Reply# 17 3/20/2024 at 08:20 by RyneR1988 (Indianapolis) |
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In an attempt to understand this thread better, I just listened to JayKay18's '94 machine washing towels, and I noticed it has a sort of resonant woo sound on neutral drain that a lot of machines from like the 2000's don't seem to have. Is this the sound you all are referring to with the older pumps?
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| Post# 1201886 , Reply# 18 3/20/2024 at 10:54 by DDFan92 (Boise ID) | ||
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Ryne: That's exactly it. Sort of a whirring sound that grows when it cavitates. Newer machines have that with the pump but it's a lot higher pitched. | ||
| Post# 1202690 , Reply# 19 4/3/2024 at 06:36 by BlockEight88 (Northwest, IN) | ||
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NOS Pump
I just picked this pump up from eBay. It's new old stock and the part number is original to my 96 machine. I wonder if its the older style.
Part 3363394 https://www.ebay.com/itm/315229243450...
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| Post# 1202716 , Reply# 21 4/3/2024 at 18:26 by BlockEight88 (Northwest, IN) | ||
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NOS Pump
I think I got the 25 vane impeller pump, but that's ok. It's probably better built than the pumps made today.
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| Post# 1202858 , Reply# 23 4/5/2024 at 19:45 by BlockEight88 (Northwest, IN) | ||
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Yeah the one I got is the newer style one with the high pitch during drain. I was able to find the older style one.
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| Post# 1202861 , Reply# 24 4/5/2024 at 20:49 by ron350 (Birmingham, AL.) | ||
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It looks like you got lucky and found a new old stock pump.:) | ||
| Post# 1202863 , Reply# 25 4/5/2024 at 21:08 by BlockEight88 (Northwest, IN) | ||
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NOS pump | ||
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