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Post# 762554   6/9/2014 at 17:07 (1,282 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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The last few cycles, my dishwasher has made the strangest sounds...and this sound is REALLY bad.......and I've noticed that during this cycle, it was pulsing on/off during wash more than normal. Then all the lights on the panel remained on, yet the entire thing just stopped working.....the rinse water was left in the tub...about 15 min's later, I hit the cancel/drain and it drained fine.......but I'm afraid to turn it back on. It's almost ten yrs old....never had a problem until now.

Normally I would think something is stuck in there, but not in this case. I'm the only one who ever loads/unloads, runs the machine. I'm always very careful to make sure nothing gets in the machine that can ruin it....I don't think there has ever been a glass that ended up broken..so I dunno...I think it's the motor dying......I could be wrong though....I'm ordering another dishwasher..


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Post# 762558 , Reply# 1   6/9/2014 at 17:58 (1,282 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
forgot to mention

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When I finally stopped shortly after filming this, there was a smell of burning oil or something burning...It wasn't good. Then it pulsed off, but instead of pulsing back on, it didn't. It just stayed OFF, with the display lights on.....that's when I waited and hit cancel/drain hoping that it would drain and it did.....anyway. I just ordered another dishwasher. I HOPE I'm not making a mistake getting this one.From what I've read, this is NOT a very energy efficient dishwasher at all. I'm a little worried about the control panel. Some say their's goes out. But the same thing was said about reviews for the one I've had all these years and it never went out. Here's the link. With the discount I get it for 345 plus tax. I didn't get it from Sears... I hate that the one I had didn't last a few yrs longer....but I have to admit, I'm excited about getting a new one since it's been almost 10 yrs since I've had a new appliance.



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Post# 762562 , Reply# 2   6/9/2014 at 18:25 (1,282 days old) by mtn1584 (USA)        
A good choice!!

I bought this for my ex wife last year also at Sears, and it is an excellent performer, no issues, and it is an awesome looking dishwasher as well as a great value. No worries, you made a good choice!
MIKE


Post# 762581 , Reply# 3   6/9/2014 at 19:46 (1,282 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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Post# 762586 , Reply# 4   6/9/2014 at 20:14 (1,282 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
Controls

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I have always preferred front facing controls as opposed to the hidden designs.

Malcolm


Post# 762590 , Reply# 5   6/9/2014 at 20:27 (1,282 days old) by appnut (TX)        

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Mark, how come you didn't get one of the new ones with the Power Blast cycle? 


Post# 762596 , Reply# 6   6/9/2014 at 20:54 (1,282 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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PowerBlast is the same as JetClean plus Steam..

From what I was reading with the specs, the new lineup of machines have less cycles than the machines they are replacing.

They do have the stainless arms in the new models, as well as the stainless cutlery basket, but each are a cycle or two less..


Post# 762617 , Reply# 7   6/9/2014 at 22:40 (1,282 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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As far as this generation of Maytags, I have the upper model of this range, the MDB8959SBS.

I absolutely love how it cleans. When you listen to it when it runs, it seems wonky with its starts and stops, but it really does a superb job. If you open it after you start the cycle, it starts and stops 4 times before running again.

For the price range, it truly is impressive. Its not a matter of it being less energy efficient, it just uses a lot of water.. Like as much as the Hobart-KitchenAids. It uses enough water to power all three arms at the same time.

Believe the options when you choose steam/sanitize or hi-temp wash... I've melted enough things on the bottom rack with this one... It gets hot. I've put stainless pans with burned chili, pasta or other random things as well as crocks with burnt cheese and they have all come out spotless.

I did spill a container of uncooked rice (bout a 1/4 cup of grains) in it by mistake, so I just ran a hi-temp wash and the grinder seemed to do the job.. I'm sure the rice cooked in the hot water though. Nothing was stuck to the interior.

Just my 2 cents though. I'm a bit biased though because I've gotten to see how Whirlpool is restructuring Maytag's image first hand.

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Post# 762640 , Reply# 8   6/10/2014 at 02:23 (1,281 days old) by murando531 (Huntsville, AL)        

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You did not make a mistake, at all. I've had my MDB4709 for a year now, and I've gotta say that while I'd give my left arm for a good 2000-2003 year model PowerClean, the Maytag is as close to the performance and quality of one as you'll get. What I like most is that it will have the same wash system as the WP you're replacing, but with higher quality parts, and instead of stripping the machine of water and heat, they took the existing design (before the resource-saver design) and made it work more intelligently. There will be different sounds, but once you understand what it's doing, they make sense.

1. The starts and stops during the first fill are checking for cavitation in the system. Once it has enough water to work without choking on air, it usually stops right on point. Every fill after that will be stationary fills, then the wash action.

2. You'll most likely hear the sound of water draining and the fill valve open at the same time. I've never noticed this on any other Point Voyager system, but the schematics for this one explains that it's a dynamic purge to clear the accumulator of debris without completely draining and refilling. It may do that 2-3 times during the prewash with heavier soils, but will usually progress into the main wash using that water. If they're really dirty, it'll go ahead and dump the prewash water and refill for a main wash. To me, that's a huge water saver there, considering most machines will completely drain if the sensor detects heavy soil.

3. After the wash, it will usually fill for 10-15 seconds (another PowerClean quality) and run the pump for a few seconds, then drain, just to clear any excess junk. Sometimes it will pulse the pump on and off a couple of times with really dirty cycles.

Other than that, this machine is insanely quiet for being the entry level model (though it seems WP has been pushing Maytag as a premium brand along with KitchenAid), and you have to sit in front of it to hear it. It has the perfect amount of quiet hum with the muffled cascading of water moving around, which is exactly what I want in a dishwasher. I've been insanely happy with the performance it puts out. Not a speck left behind so far in a year's time.


Post# 762646 , Reply# 9   6/10/2014 at 03:25 (1,281 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
The reason I chose this model

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It has stainless steel interior
Front controls
uses a lot of water
gets HOT
is quiet
tall tub
it has a one hour wash cycle (thought I'm not holding my breath for that to work very well)
it says the most powerful motor...so hopefully it doesn't pee on dishes

I do have a question though....Do dishwashers come with a power cord? If not, can the existing power cord I have be used? If not, is there a specific kind of cord I need to get?

Thanks


Post# 762657 , Reply# 10   6/10/2014 at 05:19 (1,281 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

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I'll chime in with the others and agree you chose well with the Maytag; certainly got it for an unbeatable price!
It's always fun to have a new appliance to play with. You'll like the shiny stainless steel interior.

Installation: Since you're asking about power cords...are you planning to install it yourself? Be careful! You're working with both electricity and a water line. I don't trust myself with a screwdriver, much less connecting a water line. Having seen the water damage done to the 1st floor of a house from connection that gave out, I wouldn't wish that headache on my worst enemy.



Post# 762662 , Reply# 11   6/10/2014 at 05:41 (1,281 days old) by retro-man (nashua,nh)        

To answer your question, no dishwashers do not come with a power cord unless it is a portable. The laws for where I live in NH and MA state that you have to have a power cord with a plug on it and an outlet for it to plug into and have a switch attached under the sink or on the wall above it so you can shut the power off. The cords can be purchased at lowes or hd. Have had 2 installed in the past 2 years. Looks like a great machine you have purchased.
Jon


Post# 762664 , Reply# 12   6/10/2014 at 05:52 (1,281 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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He!! no I'm not installing it myself. Even looking at tutorials, it's too intimidating for me to even being to attempt that. I'd surely screw something up and I don't want to take that chance.....

Is there a specific power cord for different model dishwashers? Mine plugs into a regular outlet under the sink. It looks like there is a small hole cut in the cabinetry under the sink for the cord to go through for the dishwasher that's in there now.


Post# 762686 , Reply# 13   6/10/2014 at 07:47 (1,281 days old) by countryguy (Astorville, ON, Canada)        

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Power Cord?

 

I just bought a Miele dishwasher and it did come with the power cord attached.  Since my previous dishwasher was hard wired I just removed the power cord from the Miele and hard wired it as well.  It also came with the water line attached so I just had to connect it to the supply line under the sink.

 

Gary

 

 


Post# 762746 , Reply# 14   6/10/2014 at 12:01 (1,281 days old) by jerrod6 (United States of America)        

Mark

 

Please make a video of your machine and how it operates after you've had it a while. I think it would be interesting to see.


Post# 762751 , Reply# 15   6/10/2014 at 12:27 (1,281 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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make a video how? I can take pictures when I get it, but I don't have a way to operate the machine with the door open (if that's what you meant). Though I probably could put a camera and flashlight in a ziplock bag and make a video that way. I still can't get over the fact that it can use up to 12 gallons of water. I did call Whirlpool Employee discount place back and the CSR that I spoke with said it didn't come with a power cord, and there was some sort of 8.00 installation kit that needs to go with it, so I am glad I called back. I got that and the power cord......She said she had the exact same dishwasher and she spent 15 minutes telling me how much she loved hers and that I will love it.

I will say this: washing dishes is a PAIN. People who grew up with dishwashers are spoiled rotten (at least I am).....I have to be without one until at least the 18th of this month.


Post# 762752 , Reply# 16   6/10/2014 at 12:29 (1,281 days old) by jerrod6 (United States of America)        

I meant make a video showing how it looks inside and then show us how it sounds during operation I wasn't thinking of making one of the inside during operation.   Pictures will work too, but we don't get to hear it.


Post# 762754 , Reply# 17   6/10/2014 at 12:33 (1,281 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA)        
People who grew up with dishwashers are spoiled!

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Yes. The only thing worse than no dishwasher is no washer/dryer.

Although, as I recall, I hated being the one tasked with unloading the dishwasher as a kid.

Malcolm


Post# 762763 , Reply# 18   6/10/2014 at 13:04 (1,281 days old) by logixx (Germany)        
I have to be without one until the 18th of this month

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Paper plates! wink


Post# 762771 , Reply# 19   6/10/2014 at 13:53 (1,281 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

We hate washing dishes too. EVERYTHING goes in the dishwasher. We have an older Maytag/Whirlpool machine and it does clean everything very well. Never any food residue on anything.

Post# 762780 , Reply# 20   6/10/2014 at 14:23 (1,281 days old) by LLMaytag (Southern California)        
New Dishwasher - Samsung?

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Looks like you need a new dishwasher. The new dishwashers aren't like the old ones...I have a new GE and though very quiet, the racks are frustrating, doesn't dry well, and it doesn't clean my Whirlpool short tub. Anyway, this new Samsung looks interesting:





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Post# 762798 , Reply# 21   6/10/2014 at 15:04 (1,281 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Oh sure

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I will do a video and post it

also, I'm assuming it's OK to use the institutional cascade in these newer machines, right?





Post# 762799 , Reply# 22   6/10/2014 at 15:07 (1,281 days old) by henene4 (Germany)        
Ahm....

... 2 things:
1. He has already ordered a new Maytag. Quite a water usage (up to 12 gal or 50l each cycle) but it will wash dishes!
2. Seriously? Samsung? As often noted: Good phones, good TV's and may be even good microwaves, but DW? No way!!!


Post# 762936 , Reply# 23   6/11/2014 at 00:01 (1,281 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

Looks like a nice machine.

 

Mark, I guess it's good you know your limits on installation, but it is really not that complicated.


Post# 762939 , Reply# 24   6/11/2014 at 00:10 (1,281 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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DW's are easy to install... As far as physical installation there are two screws that attach the DW to the cabinets. For the cord, since I am using mine freestanding, I put a commercial 14ga vacuum cord on mine so I had a long enough cord.

Plus, if I can handle doing the plumbing, anyone can. Given you have threaded connections coming from the wall that is.

One of the things I love the most about mine is you can take the top rack out when you need to put big stuff in.

On that note, if you wanna really test the ability of this machine, let your dishes stack up until the 18th and put them in the maiden voyage without rinsing them... Use your institutional Cascade, choose Jetclean Plus Steam, Hi Temp wash, Heated dry and Sani Steam rinse and you'll truly find out what that machine can do. ;-) When people ask about the mountain of dishes, tell them its product research.. LOL


Post# 762948 , Reply# 25   6/11/2014 at 00:50 (1,281 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
Hi Mark!

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Love Joshua's idea. Good Luck, Buddy. But If you were nearby or if you're driving anywhere near here, you can borrow one of my portables. Honest. Is a road trip in the offing?

Post# 762951 , Reply# 26   6/11/2014 at 01:12 (1,281 days old) by murando531 (Huntsville, AL)        

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12 gallons is the max that it will use, with Heavy Wash + all options. You'll never use that much though. A Normal wash with medium soil uses less than 6 (<2 gal per fill, give or take with purges depending on soil). I put the drain hose into a 5 gal bucket and it didn't reach the top, so 6 gal is probably pushing it. Plus the fact that a dishwasher DOES require water to do a good job, regardless of what the eco-hippies and government say.

Post# 762978 , Reply# 27   6/11/2014 at 06:42 (1,280 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Someone mentioned melted plastics in bottom

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On my current dishwasher, it DID have hi temp wash (but not sani rinse). I always used pots/pans with high temp wash (but never the dry cycle). A lot of time I do put plastics in the bottom because I never use the dry cycle because when the dishwasher is done, I always open it and everything is dry pretty quickly after a few min's......If I avoid the heat dry cycle on this do you think it will be ok to put plastic in the bottom occasionally, or will this get much hotter than my old one?

Thanks


Post# 763008 , Reply# 28   6/11/2014 at 09:18 (1,280 days old) by murando531 (Huntsville, AL)        

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I usually put plastics on the bottom with no problem other than the cheaper containers occasionally flipping over, but that's about it. I've never had anything melt, but I also never use Heated Dry either. Just Normal with an occasional Hi Temp when things are nasty. The interior and plastics always get nice and dry after propping the door when the clean light comes on.

Post# 763141 , Reply# 29   6/11/2014 at 23:47 (1,280 days old) by jkbff (Happy Rock, ND)        

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If its plastic that is not meant to go in the microwave, I'd wash it top rack only.. The steam cycle gets the water super hot (to make steam) and that heat radiates up.

I've only had problems with non-microwaveable stuff, the microwaveable stuff can handle the heat.

A good example is the rainbow water pan off my new rainbow... I could wash it in my edgestar and my kitchenaid, but not this guy.. it flattened like a pancake..


Post# 763165 , Reply# 30   6/12/2014 at 05:51 (1,279 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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Gotcha

I know all tall tub dishwashers hold taller items, and I was always able to get tall things in both top and bottom.....but I notice the top rack on this maytag looks as if you can fit REALLY tall items on the top rack right side. These tall cups I have are so tall that they would barely make clearance when I would pull the rack out or in to load more and it was annoying because sometimes they would get caught so I just put them in the bottom.

I never considered putting my rainbow water basin in the dishwasher. LOL


Post# 763196 , Reply# 31   6/12/2014 at 08:34 (1,279 days old) by seeitrun2006 (Braselton/Hoschton GA)        
Whirlpool DU1055XTSB1 7 years old died also

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We just replaced ours a couple of months ago. The same happened to our DW. The control on your DW looks just like the one we had. It was only 7 years old. Replaced it with a Whirlpool WDF750SAYB3. It is so quiet and cleans great!!!

You'll enjoy your new DW!!


Post# 763240 , Reply# 32   6/12/2014 at 13:13 (1,279 days old) by jerrod6 (United States of America)        

Sorry a bit off topic but what is a rainbow water basin?


Post# 763255 , Reply# 33   6/12/2014 at 14:25 (1,279 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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It's the part of a Rainbow Vacuum Cleaner that holds the water that the dirt gets sucked into.

Post# 763369 , Reply# 34   6/13/2014 at 00:00 (1,279 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc)        

In the owners manuals for the Rainbow cleaners I have-they tell you NOT to wash the Rainbow water bin in the dishwasher.They say to rinse the bin out with clear water or at worse wash it with soapy water by hand.

Post# 763504 , Reply# 35   6/13/2014 at 21:26 (1,278 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        

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I am M I S E R I B L E without a dishwasher!!!!!

Post# 763516 , Reply# 36   6/13/2014 at 23:55 (1,278 days old) by murando531 (Huntsville, AL)        

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When will your new Maytag be in?

Post# 764552 , Reply# 37   6/19/2014 at 06:31 (1,272 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
OK - so

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this dishwasher is here and is getting installed today between 8 and 9 am.

It's so funny! The SAME thing happened the last time I ordered a dishwasher from Whirlpool last time. A mere week after I ordered it, they STOPPED making that model! (LOL) and now they stopped making this particular one. It's no longer on the Whirlpool site. It's HEAVY!!


Post# 764572 , Reply# 38   6/19/2014 at 12:02 (1,272 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Finally

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Post# 764576 , Reply# 39   6/19/2014 at 12:41 (1,272 days old) by logixx (Germany)        

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How much? surprisedyell

 

Nice dishwasher, though.


Post# 764577 , Reply# 40   6/19/2014 at 13:00 (1,272 days old) by henene4 (Germany)        
Sorry, but...

... no! No! I can't say it enough: NO! NO! NO!
Really, nice DW, but NO! I don't think there is any way to proof this price was appropiate!
Did you ask him how much it is going to be before he started? And if so, how much did he announce? I don't know about the US, but in Germany, they are not allowed to exceed the first predicted and announced price by more than 20%, no matter what happens except something else breaks but even then, they have to repredict the price for that seperate again (at least thats how far I am informed).
I think we all would really like to help you. So, the first step would check the bill for everything that is listed on there and see if it has really been done AND if you have agreed to do this step. They are not allowed to produce coasts unless you said them to do so!
I really would like to hell you with tis!


Post# 764618 , Reply# 41   6/19/2014 at 16:35 (1,272 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza)        
Will not comment the DW, simply not my style...BUT

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What what what????? 500 bucks for installation??? 500 kicks in the butt this is what I'd give them after the cash.
Over here they do that for free for more expensive ones and no more than 30 40 for others, most people though do choose to do theirselves not to wait, but really, how can you possibly blame yourself, no normal person could think being asked an amount that high and no normal company would do that, did you say Lowe's right?
Gosh...it is unbelievable!
Sorry... I can hear your disappointment as you speak, BTW, you have a pleasant voice and a nice accent.
Time to write a few lines around, start with sharing this video on Lowe's facebook page....
Unbelievable...




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Post# 764670 , Reply# 42   6/19/2014 at 22:02 (1,272 days old) by murando531 (Huntsville, AL)        

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That machine is beautiful in white! I've never actually seen one in context with an actual kitchen, only on the website. Mine is black, as are the ones at Home Depot, etc., and I love it, but that looks really nice!

You're going to love that dishwasher, but I'm sorry that happened with the installation. :/ We had an issue with Breland while our house was being built, where I told them to leave the dishwasher in the box, and I would install it myself, and just to go ahead and get the hookups under the sink done. She said she would instruct the contractors to do so, but did they? Of course not. We came to check on things after the appliances came in, and of course it was already installed, they had already taken the films and plastic off, and somehow (this is still an unsolved mystery) the detergent and rinse aid sample packet were no where to be seen. They also lost the retaining clips that hold the lower access panel in place. What was worse, however, was the fact that the machine was completely unlevel. You could kneel in front of it and tell that one side was higher than the other, in addition to the fact that the door scrubbed against the cabinet when opened. I was livid, and reported it, but went ahead and detached it and releveled and reinstalled everything perfectly. It's probably the most level and symmetrical appliance installation I've ever done, considering that I'm extremely OCD about my appliances being perfectly level and straight and even with the cabinets.

After we moved in and the dishwasher was being used, I noticed a popping sound everytime the inlet valve opened, but it was coming from the wall. I figured that the pipe in the wall wasn't secured properly, and was moving under the pressure of water kicking on and off, and dismissed it because I knew it would be more trouble than it was worth, until it hit me - our house is on a slab foundation; the pipes don't run through the walls. Upon closer inspection, they had connected my dishwasher with rigid plastic refrigerator line, rated at no more than 100F. Of course, I couldn't remove the DW from the cabinet because the idiots had made three attempts at installing it beforehand, making holes under the counter, and I know that if I take it out again, I won't have a screwhole left. I bought a real braided hose, disconnected the old, and used tape to connect the two and pulled the new through while getting the old out. Now it fills perfectly, with only that nice hiss from the valve.

I know that doesn't have anything to do with paying $500 for an installation, but it just shows that those people will milk you for everything you have while doing the absolute least they can do. I'd call them and demand an explanation.


Post# 764674 , Reply# 43   6/19/2014 at 23:00 (1,272 days old) by MattL (Flushing, MI)        

Sorry about your bad day.  What was the split DW/Drain repair?  You don’t have a handy friend who could have helped?  I will gladly help out a friend or relative with and issue like this for a beer or a dinner.


Post# 764686 , Reply# 44   6/20/2014 at 02:59 (1,271 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza)        

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No matter what problem occur, they're there to install it....if it's really so serious to involve other jobs not included in the typical installation procedure , he should have said how much this costed you more if he could to that as he was already there...
But even there, not even matter if you are the one that asked,no one would ever think being asked that amount for a 2 hrs job, nor for small plumbing jobs unless a new complete bathroom had to be installed, or something big like that, then...it would not be that high, 250 an hour? Really? Who ask that?
500 bucks as you say it's worth another dishwasher..... This is over taking advantage...this is robbery!




Post# 764690 , Reply# 45   6/20/2014 at 03:45 (1,271 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
I finally got

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everything cleaned and back to normal. The dishwasher is super nice and quiet and seems much sturdier than my old one. I love the inside. At first I thought it sounded about the same as my old dishwasher, which wasn't horribly loud, but not silent. But after this fills up and starts doing it's thing, it is quieter that my old one. But you can still hear this run and it does sound like it's sloshing a lot of water around.

I still don't have a full load of dishes yet to see what it can do, because I kept everything washed everyday. At this point it's only half full of dirty dishes.

I should mention he took the old dishwasher and all packaging away, fixed the faucet (I said sink) but it was just the faucet dripping when you turned it off.

Again, the job he did was thorough. I was just in a brain fog at 8 am when he arrived and I just wanted it installed. As soon as he arrived he's going through the house asking me what type of plumbing problems I had, if any, and then he went out to his van and wrote an essay and came back giving me options of ALL these things I should have done. It was literally like a vacuum salesman. I should have known then. It was 30 min's before he actually started doing any work.

The LAST time I had a dishwasher installed over 9 yrs ago, a company called ADI did it. But they have gone out of biz. It was 115 dollars I think or maybe not even that much.

I'm still AMAZED that I agreed to that! I'm not a morning person and can't function unless I've had coffee. I'm not someone that is easily taken advantage of because I'm usually pretty crafty, but this was just INSANELY stupid of me. If I had a time machine and could go back to yesterday morning, I would just tell him, "no thanks" and find another company. There's just NO EXCUSE for me agreeing to that.

If I do write a review on the company. I will mention that the work was GREAT but the prices they charge are beyond insane.


Post# 765257 , Reply# 46   6/22/2014 at 18:44 (1,269 days old) by mark_wpduet (Lexington KY)        
Running time

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seems to not be that bad.

So far I have only used Autoclean with hi-temp (no heated dry) and it was about 95 minutes. I think it changed water 4 times. I'm not sure.

When I made the video, I did rinse only. Rinse only is LOUD compared to the autoclean cycle. It was so quite you hear a very slight hum of the motor and some sloshing water. Much more quite than the older one I had.

But there are so many different cycles - some of which I think can run up to 3.5 hours or more.

Autoclean
Tough scrub
Jet Steam Clean
Quick wash
hi-temp
steam sanitize
normal
light
Rinse only

Size wish, this dishwasher is the same tall tub size as my old one, but I SWEAR it seems like the very top rack on this one doesn't seem as big to me. I dunno. I'm getting used to it still.

It's weird it doesn't have a vent at all on the front like they usually do.

I like the rinse aid dispenser on this one better than my other one. It looks very similar, but it's designed a little differently and seems better made. My other one tended to leak some.


Post# 765319 , Reply# 47   6/23/2014 at 01:10 (1,269 days old) by joe_in_philly (Philadelphia, PA, USA)        

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I can hear the frustration in your voice over the price charged. Sorry it happened. I would have done the same thing as you. I wouldn't have dreamed the total could have been so much. Thanks for sharing so we can benefit from your experience. It looks like a great dishwasher!




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