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Hotpoint UK Washers & Dryers - 1st Automatic to final New Generation
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Post# 602659   6/11/2012 at 13:36 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Noticing that there is discussion going on about the 95's and WM's in the blue forum, it has motivated me to start a Hotpoint history thread.

In a similar vein to the Hoover thread that I did last year, I will try to cover all of Hotpoint's washers and dryers and washer/dryers, produced from their first automatic in the early 1960's, through to the crossover New Generation/Next Generation machines introduced circa 1985/1986.

I have managed to accrue photographs of most of their production offerings, but the photographs vary in quality from official brochure images, through to ebay shots.

Where possible, I will use the best photograph available and will try to steer clear of posting pictures of other collectors machines, so that they can post them themselves.
Where the only image of a machine is of another collectors, then I am going to be cheeky and post it, to enable the image timeline to be maintained.

Will try to chapter the thread into each generation of machines and develop the thread over the coming week.

Any inaccuracies in what I type, dont hesitate to offer corrections - its great to get as accurate a picture as possible.

Here goes then....





Post# 602660 , Reply# 1   6/11/2012 at 13:40 (4,336 days old) by liberatordeluxe (UK)        

@ MatchboxPaul Would love to get hold of a Hotpoint 95 series washer but everywhere on Ebay is miles away lol No one hardly sells them in East Anglia which is annoying. I like the 95 series the best as they were quick and used lots of water which is good for people like me who have sensitive skin.

Post# 602661 , Reply# 2   6/11/2012 at 13:42 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The 1st Automatic from Hotpoint UK

Model 1500 Automatic

Introduced circa 1963/64, this was Hotpoints first foray into the world of automatics, with production previously dominated by the Empress, Countess and Princess wringer machines.

The 1500 was the first machine to employ the 'Spiraclean' spiral gyrator, with filterclean tray and recirculation system.


Post# 602663 , Reply# 3   6/11/2012 at 13:47 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Here is a superb cutaway drawing of the internals of their new automatic offering.

With the market being a bit of an unknown and the UK dominated by top loading machines - wringers and twin tubs - this was the avenue that Hotpoint decided to go down, leading to them playing catchup later in the decade!

The 1500 span at 850rpm for long spin, with a 40 second impulse for short spin...


Post# 602664 , Reply# 4   6/11/2012 at 13:49 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Patience liberatordeluxe - as far as this thread is concerned, you will have to wait another 20 years before I reach the world of the 95 :-)

Am sure you will find one eventually - just keep looking!

Paul


Post# 602665 , Reply# 5   6/11/2012 at 13:54 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1501 Automatic

The 1500 stayed in production through to circa 1965/1966, when it was replaced by a very lightly warmed over version of itself, in the form of the Model 1501 Automatic.

The only difference between the 1500 and 1501, that I have been able to ascertain, is that whilst the 1500 was an 850rpm spin, the 1501 ushered in the world of 1050rpm!

Visually model 1501 was identical to its predecessor.

1050rpm would remain the Hotpoint top loader spin standard, apart from only one other instance (excluding the 1500), right through to the end of production.

Model 1501 Automatic ...


Post# 602666 , Reply# 6   6/11/2012 at 13:55 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1501 Automatic

Courtesy of KAYS Catalogue...

Post# 602667 , Reply# 7   6/11/2012 at 13:56 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1501 Automatic

a really smart looking machine...

Post# 602668 , Reply# 8   6/11/2012 at 14:00 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1502 AUTOMATIC

Roll into 1967 and another redesign created Model 1502 AUTOMATIC.

More visually tame (dare I say it plain) than the 1501, this model received a redesign washdeck and came equipped with a smaller drum access lid (the 1500 and 1501 had a full lid) and a complimentary wood effect worktop - in the 1502's case, this was Rosewood.


Post# 602669 , Reply# 9   6/11/2012 at 14:01 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1502 AUTOMATIC

In the catalogues again...

Post# 602676 , Reply# 10   6/11/2012 at 14:11 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
September 1969 - a momentous time for Hotpoint!

Oliver Hill from the consultancy Industrial Design Unit Ltd, put his pen to paper and produced a full restyle for all of Hotpoint's laundry products, to produce a smart corporate style across the range.

It also ushered in an all new model of washing machine, in a form to which Hotpoint had not been associated before!

The first new model was a restyled top loader, in the form of the Model 1504.

As well as ushering in the new style to the world of the top loader, it was also the first Hotpoint machine to adopt the timeline guide on the control panel.

Spin speed remained at 1050rpm, as it would stay for decades to come, and it also provided a 'powders' switch ...


Post# 602678 , Reply# 11   6/11/2012 at 14:12 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1504 AUTOMATIC DE LUXE

The 1504 was the new 'DE LUXE' offering, from Hotpoint....

Post# 602680 , Reply# 12   6/11/2012 at 14:20 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
....the new standard model, being in the form of....

Model 1600 AUTOMATIC

This was Hotpoint's 1st front loader offering and offered a rather high spin speed of 1100rpm!
This made it quite the fastest spinning front loader on the UK market by a high margin, with Hoover offering between 740 and 750rpm and Bendix around 600rpm. Though continental machines like the Indesit L5 were on sale, they all spun much, much slower, generally between 300 and 500rpm.

Being late onto the market, the 1600 suffered from a handful of issues that would hinder its success.
It maintained the widebody width, rather than the rapidly becoming standard 23inches wide, that the top end continental naufacturers had adopted and which Hoover would adopt as its standard the following year.

Also it had its controls on the top, rather than across the front, hindering its installation under the worktops of the rapidly spreading fitted kitchens.

Nevertheless, certainly a very smart looking machine...


Post# 602681 , Reply# 13   6/11/2012 at 14:22 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1600 AUTOMATIC

The only image I have found showing an open powder chute...

Post# 602682 , Reply# 14   6/11/2012 at 14:23 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1600 AUTOMATIC

Feels like you could almost touch it...

Post# 602684 , Reply# 15   6/11/2012 at 14:25 (4,336 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
1502

Haha! Its the 1502! Gran had one of those for ages. Sadly, it is no more:( But I do have the manual + instalation booklet witch I can scan for those who want a copy. Really love the old Hotpoints. Looking forward for more!

Chris.


Post# 602686 , Reply# 16   6/11/2012 at 14:28 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1508 AUTOMATIC

So with the front loader market catered for with the 1600 and the de luxe toploader world taken care of with the 1504, Hotpoint saw an opening in the market for a less 'de luxe' smaller and slower top loader.

The result was the Model 1508 AUTOMATIC.

This compressed 1504, had its controls on the front, so it could be slotted under the work surface of a fitted kitchen and dragged out for use.

It was stripped of the timeline, came in a slightly smaller bodyshell and had a slower spin speed of 750rpm.

Though I dont know the exact introducion date, an instruction manual that I own is dated August 1972....



Post# 602687 , Reply# 17   6/11/2012 at 14:29 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1508 AUTOMATIC

showing the control panel in better detail...

Post# 602688 , Reply# 18   6/11/2012 at 14:31 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Chris.

Glad you are enjoying the thread - I remember you mentioning that your gran had a 1502.
If you have got time to scan the manual, I would love a copy!

Paul


Post# 602692 , Reply# 19   6/11/2012 at 14:42 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
1973 - Big changes afoot!

1973 witnessed big changes for Hotpoint's laundry range.

With the lessons of the 1600 learnt, Hotpoint's new front loader offerings would have their control panels on the front.
They would also be of the now standard compact size, but with an extra inch lopped off the height - quite why, god only knows!

They would also see a major change in the colour palate used in the design, moving away from the predictable colours of silver and dark grey or black, into the slightly psychedelic world of purple, mauve and lilac, against a silver fascia and bright white bodyshell.

&

for the first time, there would be a Hotpoint tumble dryer as well!

But thats for tomorrow :-)



Post# 602695 , Reply# 20   6/11/2012 at 14:58 (4,336 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
Hi Paul

If you wish for a copy then I can either post it here(witch would be easier so people can save it) or email it to you. Also, is there any information on the Hotpoint 17230 compact Super Dryer. I have some parts for it from one I took apart on holiday a few years back.(door, timer e.t.c...)

Chris


Post# 602713 , Reply# 21   6/11/2012 at 15:46 (4,336 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Chris.

If the scans are big enough to read easily, then by all means feel free to post your 1502 brochure here.
Let me know if you are still happy to do that and I will hold off updating the thread, until you have managed to post your material, thereby keeping your manual the right side of the purple perils on the threads timeline.

If you find yourself unable to post the 1502 manual any time soon, then let me know and I will carry on with 1973 onwards.

Will definately cover the 17230 compact dryer, but you will have to wait another six years until 1979 :-)

Cheers
Paul



Post# 602719 , Reply# 22   6/11/2012 at 16:10 (4,336 days old) by servisslimline (England, Brighton & Hove)        
wow

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blimey paul, havent even got near the 1980's and allready im drooling, especially over that 1600, god why cant machines be made to look that good nowadays, such a shame, looking forward to reading more.
phil


Post# 602727 , Reply# 23   6/11/2012 at 16:41 (4,336 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
Woo hoo

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Liking it well done

Post# 602749 , Reply# 24   6/11/2012 at 18:30 (4,336 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Hotpoint

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Wow Paul

Can't wait till the next instalment, bring it on i'm lovin it!


Post# 602878 , Reply# 25   6/12/2012 at 08:35 (4,335 days old) by chris74 ()        
What do...

..."load switch" and "powder control" mean? I guess they've got only one compartment for the detergent and no for softeners?

Post# 602920 , Reply# 26   6/12/2012 at 11:30 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
Afternoon all.

Here are the 1502 manual and installation book scans as promised. Feel free to save them if you wish, I really don't mind. Here we go then...

Post# 602921 , Reply# 27   6/12/2012 at 11:32 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 2 - The Index

Post# 602922 , Reply# 28   6/12/2012 at 11:34 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 3 - Automatic Washing

Post# 602924 , Reply# 29   6/12/2012 at 11:36 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 4 - The five essentials to perfect washing

Post# 602925 , Reply# 30   6/12/2012 at 11:40 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 5 - More tips for washing.

Post# 602926 , Reply# 31   6/12/2012 at 11:41 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 6 - How much to wash

Post# 602927 , Reply# 32   6/12/2012 at 11:42 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 7 - How to use your Hotpoint Automatic

Post# 602929 , Reply# 33   6/12/2012 at 11:45 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 8 - The control panel

Post# 602932 , Reply# 34   6/12/2012 at 11:47 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 9 - The controls continued

Post# 602933 , Reply# 35   6/12/2012 at 11:48 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 10 - Washing guide

Post# 602934 , Reply# 36   6/12/2012 at 11:49 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 11 - Washing guide continued

Post# 602939 , Reply# 37   6/12/2012 at 12:16 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 12 - What happens during the automatic cycle

Post# 602942 , Reply# 38   6/12/2012 at 12:18 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 13 - What happens during the automatic cycle cont... . A nice photo of the controls too

Post# 602944 , Reply# 39   6/12/2012 at 12:19 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 14 - At the end of the wash.

Post# 602945 , Reply# 40   6/12/2012 at 12:22 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 15 - Special features

Post# 602948 , Reply# 41   6/12/2012 at 12:24 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 16 - Special washing problems

Post# 602949 , Reply# 42   6/12/2012 at 12:26 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 17 - Regular maintenance

Post# 602951 , Reply# 43   6/12/2012 at 12:27 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 18 - Service

Post# 602953 , Reply# 44   6/12/2012 at 12:30 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 19 - Guarantee

Post# 602956 , Reply# 45   6/12/2012 at 12:32 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 20 - Rear cover

Post# 602959 , Reply# 46   6/12/2012 at 12:43 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Ok. That was the user guide. Here are the installation book scans...

Post# 602960 , Reply# 47   6/12/2012 at 12:45 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Ok. That was the user guide. Here are the installation book scans...

Post# 602961 , Reply# 48   6/12/2012 at 12:48 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Sorry for the double post guys. was a accident.

Anyway, Page 2 - Contents


Post# 602964 , Reply# 49   6/12/2012 at 12:51 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 3 - A choice of installation

Post# 602965 , Reply# 50   6/12/2012 at 12:53 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 4 - unpacking and preparing the machine

Post# 602966 , Reply# 51   6/12/2012 at 12:55 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 5 - Electrical requirements.

Post# 602968 , Reply# 52   6/12/2012 at 12:59 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 6 - Drainage

Post# 602970 , Reply# 53   6/12/2012 at 13:02 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 7 - connecting up

Post# 602971 , Reply# 54   6/12/2012 at 13:04 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 8 - More connecting up

Post# 602973 , Reply# 55   6/12/2012 at 13:06 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 9 - more connecting up

Post# 602974 , Reply# 56   6/12/2012 at 13:09 (4,335 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Page 10(the end) - check list.

Post# 602983 , Reply# 57   6/12/2012 at 13:47 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Chris.

Many many thanks for taking the time to scan and post your grandmothers 1502 manual.

Have never had the chance to see inside one of these early top loader instruction manuals before and its certainly a detailed publication.
Explains everything clearly and with excellent pictures and certainly very differnet from the style of manuals that Hotpoint later adopted and ran with, through the 70s and 80s.
Did that woman ever fathom out what to do with that outlet hose, spewing water everywhere? :-)

Both styles are classics in their own right.

Thanks again for posting and very useful to have a copy of a manual in this thread, explaining just how these classic machines worked.

Paul


Post# 602984 , Reply# 58   6/12/2012 at 13:59 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Phil, Richard and Craig.

Glad that you are enjoying the thread - nearly time to move onto the next chapter and a chapter, for which you had to ask yourself before buying, 'would purple suit my kitchen?'.




Hi Chris in Germany
thanks for reading the thread. The 'load' switch was basically a full load/half load switch and controlled the water level in the machine.
The 'powder' switch was set one way or the other, depending on the type of powder you used. At the time that these machines were being introduced, biological washing powders for automatics were being introduced. If you bought one of these, then the switch would be set to 'bio', resulting in the machine giving a longer soak time in the cycle, allowing the enzymes to do their business.
Set the switch to 'others' and this would be cut short, should you be a user of non-biological powders.

Cheers
Paul


Post# 602998 , Reply# 59   6/12/2012 at 14:34 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
1973 - the BIG design change is revealed!

MARCH

Having been late onto the front loader market, with a machine that was proportionally very wrong for what the modern fitted kitchen was dictating and which had the controls in the wrong place, Hotpoint engineers had been working away behind the scenes in the early 1970s on their new series of appliances.

Their new machines would be to the new compact size - even shorter than Hoover's machines, though taller than what Servis had to offer.

The cabinet would be of a strange, virtually unique design, with an all one piece wrap-around top and bodysides and removable front panel, to give full frontal access to the insides of the machine.
Round the back of the machine was a full cover back, though unfortunately made of plastic which over time would crack - definitely an area where costs were cut.

Stylewise, Hotpoint made the brave decision to go with a bold new colour scheme for their machines.
A standard bright white bodshell, with a silver fascia panel and white powder drawer front would be finished off with the addition of switches and a dial in various shades of lilac, mauve and purple.
Perhaps the most distinctive feature of the series would be the door, which featured a dark purple door bowl, with a thick chrome surround.

The official name of the colour scheme was 'Amethyst' and the series was officially christened 'LIBERATOR', reusing the name of the laundry products of the English Electric company which, along with Morphy Richards, had just been merged under the name of Hotpoint.
From that point BDA large appliances and vacuum cleaners would be branded Hotpoint, with small appliances being sold under the Morphy Richards brand. English Electric was to be consigned to the history books, though not permanently!

There would, for the first time ever in Hotpoint UK's history, be a tumble dryer too!




Post# 603000 , Reply# 60   6/12/2012 at 14:36 (4,335 days old) by ricky5050 (Durham Britain)        
Great thread

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Im thinking I want a vintage hottie top loader ! Any one got one ?

Cheers Richard


Post# 603006 , Reply# 61   6/12/2012 at 14:43 (4,335 days old) by turnamat (Germany)        

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@ Aquarius 8000:

Thanks alot for the instruction of this wonderful british machine!Wish we would have had them in Germany,too when I was a child!

Thomas.


Post# 603008 , Reply# 62   6/12/2012 at 14:46 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The 1st Hotpoint Liberator - Model 1850

The initial 'range' turned out to be a mix of the new, the old and the non-existant!

The 'new' was Model 1850 LIBERATOR DE LUXE which, though de luxe, turned out to be the only new model in the front loader 'range' and essentially remained so until 1976.

The model offered Auto Prewash, Gentle Action and Rinse Hold as option buttons and provided one spin speed of 750rpm, with a black vitreous enamel inner drum.

The final switch on the fascia was the white door release....


Post# 603015 , Reply# 63   6/12/2012 at 15:01 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1830 Automatic

This was the 'old' and came in the form of a restyled Hotpoint 1600 Automatic.

Just quite how much it was restyled, remains unclear to me. What is certain is that, whereas the 1600 had a dark worktop and black dial, the 1830 had them changed to white.

Confusion exists with regard to whether this machine received any sort of purple regalia at all. Certainly there exists a photograph (hiya Matt!) that shows an 1830, though unfortunately its at an awkward angle. It certainly gives the impression that this particular 1830 had a purple-ish door bowl, though other people I have had comms with state that the 1830 had a clear door bowl and had no shades of purple on it all.

Unfortunately no good clear photograph seems to exist of an 1830 - the only 'image' I have is a line drawing from a 1974 copy of Which Magazine.

If anybody is able to help with a photograph of the 1830, then I would be really grateful...


Post# 603017 , Reply# 64   6/12/2012 at 15:09 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The non-existant Model 1840

This was to have been the standard model in the range, with the 1850 being the deluxe and the 1830 being a case of exhausting the spare parts bin - this fact of the latter, with the assistance of a fire at the spare parts warehouse and combined with their one off nature, being major factors in the short lived nature of both models 1600 and 1830.


Back to the 1840...

This was a cold fill only , optionless machine, simply branded 'HOTPOINT LIBERATOR', with one lonely button on its fascia for door release.

A small paragraph in a servicing manual explains, with the apparrently real photo on the right hand side being a rendition of my own making.

A very plain machine it would have been...


Post# 603020 , Reply# 65   6/12/2012 at 15:17 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Hotpoint's 1st tumble dryer - Model 1701

Here then was Hotpoints first ever tumble dryer - incredible to this of such a manufacturer entering this arena so late, what with Servis, Hoover and Creda entering the market in the 1960s, albeit with bought in designs.

Model 1701 was branded HOTPOINT LIBERATOR DRYER, providing the only real tumble dryer option they could offer, in the form of low heat.

This was the first version of 1701 suffixed by /01...


Post# 603021 , Reply# 66   6/12/2012 at 15:21 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1701/01

finally some colour photos of a first generation machine.

The lack of colour pictures of the above models is simply down to the fact that few if any seem to exist. They are very rare machines...


Post# 603026 , Reply# 67   6/12/2012 at 15:29 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Top loader wise

Whilst the new front loader machines were being introduced, the 1969 vintage Model 1504 Automatic De Luxe toploader was left to fly the flag for its own particular market niche.

This it would do until 1974, when things went a bit weird in toploader world.

Around March of that year it was joined by a new top loader model, in the form of the 1507, alongside which it would be sold for another year.
Though this new model was given the new front loader styling, it was not called LIBERATOR, but instead was also called Automatic De Luxe and both models would do battle for the same market.

Model 1507...


Post# 603027 , Reply# 68   6/12/2012 at 15:30 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1507

details....

Post# 603031 , Reply# 69   6/12/2012 at 15:40 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1509/01

1975 saw new safety rules come into force in the UK regarding the ability to open washing machine doors, when the machines were working. Basically it was no longer to be possible to simply push in the dial and open the door, with either the machine full of potentially hot water or coasting down from spin.

Machine doors were to be interlocked either mechanically or electrically and this caused Hotpoint to rework their models.

January 1975 saw new models introduced with this interlock feature and the arrival of the famous 1509 toploader, in the form of the Model 1509/01.
This was the direct replacement for the 1507, even retaining its name.

A link to a youtube video of a preserved example is below..


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Post# 603034 , Reply# 70   6/12/2012 at 15:44 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Things set weird again in toploader world - Model 1518

The weirdness I talk of is the fact that the 1969 vintage Model 1504 was NOT replaced by the 1509/01, but instead by its own visually identical model (though with interlock) in the form of the 1518 Automatic De Luxe.

This is the only picture I have of the 1518 and its just possible to make out the interlock peg attached to the lid, just underneath the left hand side of the lid pull handle...


Post# 603035 , Reply# 71   6/12/2012 at 15:50 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1509/02

...was introduced in September 1975, replacing both 1509/01 and 1518 and making them both very shortlived models.

Visually 1509/02 was identical to 1509/01, but this machine had its 4 pole motor replaced with a 2 pole version.

I dont knowingly have a photo of this model - anyone has one that they know is 100% model 1509/02, then please post it!


Post# 603037 , Reply# 72   6/12/2012 at 15:53 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1509/05

...was the penultimate Amethyst toploader and was introduced in April 1977. As with the 1509/02 over the 1509/01, the difference between 1509/05 and the 1509/02 that it replaced was purely mechanical, in the form of an electrically tripped flyback thermostat.

Apart from the mechanocal side of things, models 1509/01, 1509/02 and 1509/05 were all visually identical...


Post# 603038 , Reply# 73   6/12/2012 at 15:56 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1509/05

and here is my own example, which was rescued a couple of years back from Stoke Damarell High School for Girls in Plymouth.

Thanks to Gary for helping that day - what a day it was :-)

This was how it looked then...


Post# 603039 , Reply# 74   6/12/2012 at 15:58 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1509/05

and this is how it looks now!

Date code 95, dating it to November 1977...


Post# 603040 , Reply# 75   6/12/2012 at 15:59 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1509/05

with worktop...

Post# 603041 , Reply# 76   6/12/2012 at 16:03 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Winding back to 1975 and the interlock laws - Model 1851

JANUARY 1975

The original Model 1850 Liberator De Luxe was replaced by its interlocked derivitive, in the form of Model 1851.

As with toploader models 1509/01 and 1518, the 1851 was otherwise identical to the model it replaced...


Post# 603044 , Reply# 77   6/12/2012 at 16:15 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1851/03

September 1975

and a further change befell the de luxe front loader - this time in the form of the addition of a fabric conditioner facility in the powder drawer and associated internal plumbing modifications.

The new model retained the usual name, though its model number was modified to 1851/03.

This model also received a smartened up fascia sticker and ushered in the oh so very familiar new Hotpoint name script.

Lee's superbly restored machine provides the only known photos of this variant, hence me posting one of it. Post some more Lee!
I have also linked to one of his 1851/03 youtube videos.

By now the 1851/03 was the only front loader in Hotpoint's laundry range, with the 1830 having been discontinued...


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Post# 603047 , Reply# 78   6/12/2012 at 16:27 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
1976 - getting into bed with the Italian's!

One of the reasons put forward to explain the rather restictive nature of Hotpoint's original range is that a fire (the same one that did in the spares supply of the 1600 and 1830, or another one?) at the production factory damaged the line.

The decision was then taken to focus production on the superior of its two possible production machines (the other being the cold fill 1840).

Whatever was the reasons, having a washing machine range consisting of one front loader and one top loader doesnt provide much scope for appealing to different markets. The top loader was expensive and though the front loader was less so, it certainly wasnt a cheap option either!

To widen the range, without damaging their own ability to provide the 185X machines, Hotpoint commissioned Zanussi to provide it with two machines from the Italian portfolio, but fully decked out in full Hotpoint Liberator garb.
The results entered the market during 1976.

The cheapest machine was the cold fill only Model 1823 Liberator C - an optionless machine with a painfully slow spin speed of 380rpm.

Unless it really was all that you could afford, you would have had to be a clown to buy one - wonder if that was why they picked that particular toy to accompany it in all the brochures?...






Post# 603049 , Reply# 79   6/12/2012 at 16:28 (4,335 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Great thread! think the 1851 to the 1828 was the drop of Crouzet timers to AKO, and the motor was changed from DC (round plug) to AC six way rectangular plug
HTH Andy


Post# 603051 , Reply# 80   6/12/2012 at 16:30 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1826

The mid range offering came in the form of the other Zanussi machine, given the model number 1826 and named simply LIBERATOR.

This gave the option of Super Wash and Economy Load buttons and a faster spin of 520rpm...


Post# 603053 , Reply# 81   6/12/2012 at 16:36 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1826

Here is mine and Rob's Model 1826.

Unfortunately this machine is now suffering from rust issued emanating from underneath the panel, so has just been transported to my place in Derby for repair works (the best I can perform on it anyway).
It will probably finish up having to have a full respray sometime soon.

Anyways - here it is just after it received its new set of bearings, with a link to one of the videos of it...


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Post# 603054 , Reply# 82   6/12/2012 at 16:47 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Back to the world of GEC - Model 1828

alongwith introducing the two Italian models, Hotpoint also warmed over its own 1851/03 and produced the 1828.

Initially in the form of the 1828/01, this version was in production from June 1976 to March 1977. I have no photos of this model, but am given the distinct impression that it was visually identical to its replacement....



...which was released in prototype form in December 1976 and production form from February 1977 - Model 1828/02 LIBERATOR DE LUXE.


The 1828's received a redesigned fascia with full programme details printed on it(previously the programme details were held on a removable card originally to be found in the powder drawer), as well as a stainless steel drum.

The upgrade that probably caused the creation of 1828/02 and replacement of 1828/01 was the boosting of the spin speed from 750rpm upto the full 800rpm, though it was still a single speed machine...






Post# 603056 , Reply# 83   6/12/2012 at 16:51 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1828/02

Here is my 1828/02, though it still awaits repairs to a holed outer tub.
Also suffers from white platsic fever though, as Lee has decided with his 1851/03, I have decided to live with it - cant risk losing that script with a respray!

A particularly precious machine to me now, as my late father resprayed the kick strip for me (he also resprayed the programmer console wrap and side plates on my 1509/05)...


Post# 603058 , Reply# 84   6/12/2012 at 16:55 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1828/02

a smart looking machine - unfortunately very rare today...

Post# 603060 , Reply# 85   6/12/2012 at 16:57 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Back a bit to the 1701/01...

When the 1851/03 arrived on the scene with its newly restyled fascia, the same changes were implemented on the 1701/01 dryer as well.

Hence we have version 2 Model 1701/01...


Post# 603061 , Reply# 86   6/12/2012 at 16:59 (4,335 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

I have that same machine, but with a viterous inner? and the later chromed plastic outer door trim. Not modified either, was my uncle's since new.

Post# 603062 , Reply# 87   6/12/2012 at 17:00 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1701/01 version 2

Here is one of the handful of preserved examples - mine and Robs and weirdly, like with my 1509/05, its date code 95!

Post# 603064 , Reply# 88   6/12/2012 at 17:04 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The world of the compact - Model 1720

Hotpoints 1st foray into the world of the compact dryer was the rear venting Model 1720 Home and Dry.

For some reason though, Hotpoint didnt see fit to Liberator purple it and this machine ws sold only in brown, though came with Liberator triangular corner stickers...


Post# 603065 , Reply# 89   6/12/2012 at 17:06 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1720

and here is my 1720 - not yet tidied up yet though.

The date code thing gets weirder still as this too is date code 95!


Post# 603068 , Reply# 90   6/12/2012 at 17:10 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Right oh - that takes us through to the end of May 1978, though not yet the end of the Liberators, but they didnt have long to go!

Will deal with those in a day or two - give chance for people to digest the machines :-)



Before I sign off for the night - just to prove the strangeness of date code 95 (November 1977)......


my 1509/05


Post# 603069 , Reply# 91   6/12/2012 at 17:11 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

my 1701/01...

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Post# 603070 , Reply# 92   6/12/2012 at 17:12 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Date code 95!

My 1720...

Post# 603072 , Reply# 93   6/12/2012 at 17:14 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Date code 95!

Oh yeh.........and my 1828/02!

Weird how I seem to attract purple Hotpoint's, manufactured in November 1977!!!!


Post# 603076 , Reply# 94   6/12/2012 at 17:21 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Andyvivo

Hi Andy.

Glad that you are enjoying the thread and any snippets of information, please do add them.
Its always great to get other peoples knowledge and experiences of machines, so any info gratefully received.

Dont know whether you will have seen my Hoover hstory thread. In a similar vein to this Hotpoint thread, it covers all Hoover models from the 1st Keymatic through to their final Electron. Go have a gander though, as this thread is becoming, it is VERY picture heavy and may take a while to load onto your computer.

Will post the end of the Liberators and start of the silver and brown series-18 over the coming days.

Cheers
Paul


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Post# 603078 , Reply# 95   6/12/2012 at 17:24 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Andyvivo

ps. forgot to mention....you have a Hotpoint Liberator De Luxe washing machine?

Post# 603080 , Reply# 96   6/12/2012 at 17:30 (4,335 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Hi Paul, Thanks for the welcome! =) Yeah have had a good look and literally ahem myself lol. Think you have it pretty much nailed, think I may have some images of a 1504 I think which I should scan and upload. Also I have the 1600 / 1830 service manual, if of interest I will scan and post =)
Andy


Post# 603082 , Reply# 97   6/12/2012 at 17:33 (4,335 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        
Liberator

Oh yes I do, since 1995, and my 1701 since 93, unfortunately I have never gotten around to getting a respray on them both. Always been fascinated with the purple, and it carried on from there ;-) lol

Post# 603086 , Reply# 98   6/12/2012 at 17:52 (4,335 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Andy.

Blimey, I am up way past my bedtime :-)

Fantastic that there is some more preserved purple out there, especially of the wet front loader variety.

Up until a couple of years ago, no one had seen a GEC Liberator front loader for years and years and years. Then the 1828/02 surfaced, quickly followed by Lee's 1851/03 and we thought that was it. Now you have got one too - really very pleased indeed.

Is there any chance of some photos of it/them?
Is it a 1828/01 or a 1828/02 or the yet to be covered in this thread 1828/07?
Be great to see some shots of it.

If photos are possible and you want to post them on this thread, then let me know and I will pause posting after the fianl series of Liberators, so that your photos sit withing the right time period.

Or maybe set up a thread for all your stuff. New pictures of the 1504 would be great to see and I know for sure that there will be people, myself included, who will be very interested INDEED to be able to read about the nitty gritty detail of the Hotpoint 1600 and 1830.
Would be fantastic if you could scan nice and large that servicing manual, for sure!
The 1600 and 1830 definitely deserves its own thread!

You wouldnt happen to know much about the 1830 would you, or have any pictures of it?

Paul






Post# 603162 , Reply# 99   6/13/2012 at 02:29 (4,334 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Hi Paul

The machines I cannot get quite get to, at the moment as there is a Dyson CR01 in pieces in the way. I will en-devour to get these out to do some pics. Pretty certain it is an 1828/08 but will double check. It really is a bit of a hybrid with the viterous enamel inner drum. I am aware of a couple of the liberator and super de luxe machines are still in daily service in some homes, a few engineers I speak to have had to do brushes, door seals etc. Have you also got a liberator & super de luxe service manual? I wonder if there are any 18 series down under still going. These were exported under the Gala mark.

As for the 1830 / 1600 no I have never found one, I did see a picture of one that was in Greece. Am sure the amethyst was included on the 1830. Hopefully the service manual will show, and have it's own little space on another thread.

To be continued..... =)

Andy



Post# 603264 , Reply# 100   6/13/2012 at 13:47 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Andy

Whenever you get a chance, it really would be great to have a gander at your machines, especially as I have never heard of the 1828/08!

The only versions I knew of being sold in the UK were the 1828/01, 1828/02 and 1828/07, the latter machine being the 1978 final series 4 button Liberator. For there to be the possibility of a 1828/08 fills me with intrigue.
If it is a 1828/08 and all original, I wonder if it was a very final spare parts raid machine?

Likewise with the possibility of a 1701/23! The only ones I knew of being sold in the UK were the early and late version of 1701/01 and the 1701/21, again the latter being the 1978 final series Liberator.

You really have got my interest in your machines.


Fantastic that your repairmen mates still see them occasionally. You have told them that, should they have to write one off, to let you know, havent you?
In this day and age and with them being sooooo very rare, it really would be a tragedy for any to be given to the council for reprocessing.

Paul



Post# 603268 , Reply# 101   6/13/2012 at 13:53 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

You mentioned the 'Down Under' export machines.
I have only ever seen a photograph of one of the exported dryers, but never one of the washing machines. Methinks they are probably just as rare over there, as our versions are over here.

Of the dryers, I have noted the following versions:

1701/01 Hotpoint LIBERATOR DRYER (UK)
1701/02 QUELLE (France)
1701/04 English Electric
1701/13 GEC (Australia)
1701/14 QUELLE (France)
1701/15 Morphy Richards World
1701/16 Morphy Richards
1701/17 GALA (Ireland)
1701/18 English Electric (Norway & Sweden)
1701/19 Hotpoint Export
1701/20 Hotpoint Export
&
1701/21 Hotpoint LIBERATOR DRYER DE LUXE (UK)


Post# 603269 , Reply# 102   6/13/2012 at 13:58 (4,334 days old) by hotpointfan (United Kingdom)        
Hi Paul

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I know this will probably get answered later on, but methinks there was a grey 95 series era machine badged as an English Electric, or it could have been Morphy Richards? Rocker switches come to mind as well as one surfaced on eBay a few months back!

Scouring everywhere for a 95 series/Liberator Hotpoint, all these photos are making me want one! But, even if one surfaced and I managed to get it, storage would be a problem as the garage has started leaking!

Learnt some fascinating stuff so far, and theres 20 more years to go yet!

Best Wishes

hotpointfan


Post# 603273 , Reply# 103   6/13/2012 at 14:01 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
1828

Of the 1828's, I know of the following versions:

1828/01 LIBERATOR DE LUXE (UK)
1828/02 LIBERATOR DE LUXE (UK)
1828/03 Morphy Richards
1828/04 GALA (Ireland)
1828/05 Hotpoint Export
&
1828/06 GEC Australia




Hi Andy

Re your Servicing manuals - if you have the time, patience and inclination, then it would be SUPERB if you were able to scan them to a good size and port them in a thread. They make fantastic reference resources and also generally contain some good historical data, such as the introduction dates, names and detail differences.


The posting of your 1600/1830 service manual really should be on a thread of its own. These two machines are the fabled machines in the Hotpoint line up - so very significant a part of their history, but yet forgotten by their manufacturer and not seen by an enthusiast for decades.
The Greek machine really was a case of so near and yet so far. It would have been wonderful were it to have been reimported - was very galling!

On the understanding that it may be a while before you are able to get round to detailing your own matching set, I will finish the Liberator set tonight. With your machines being possibly unusual versions, maybe they too shuld hafe a thread to themselves as well?

Paul



Post# 603274 , Reply# 104   6/13/2012 at 14:03 (4,334 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Hi Paul,
Have re scrutinized the labels, and my memory is obv in need of wd40.

1828/02 and 1701/21 are the corrected codes.

I do have another liberator dryer which is older with the metal door and plain facia, never got round to refurbishing this one. The door seal has disintegrated, possibly an earth fault too. If I thought there was a demand I would restire to working condition and eBay
A couple of years back I did give my friend another liberator dryer I had, afaik it still goes on strong

There is probably more super electronics around than liberators in use now, however if one did come up for rehoming I would not have anywhere for it to go, or the time to dedicate.

Andy


Post# 603275 , Reply# 105   6/13/2012 at 14:03 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Jacob.

Yep - you are right with the English Electric 95's. There were two washers and and two dryers and I will definitely be covering them later in this thread. Watch this space!

Paul


Post# 603277 , Reply# 106   6/13/2012 at 14:06 (4,334 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Jacob you are right in the EE badged 95's with grey facia

Post# 603278 , Reply# 107   6/13/2012 at 14:09 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

HI Andy.

ahhhh - 1828/02 and 1701/21 make more sense, though I have read elsewhere of a 1701/23. Appears that Hotpoint were making obscure export versions all over the place :-)

With that enamel inner drum, it certainly does sound like an unusual 1828/02.

Paul


Post# 603280 , Reply# 108   6/13/2012 at 14:14 (4,334 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

And also the rocker switches on the EE from the original 95*** series

Post# 603282 , Reply# 109   6/13/2012 at 14:15 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
1978 and the final series of Liberators

Finally Hotpoint developed a range of Liberator machines all derived from their own 1828.

The year 1978 saw the introduction of 2 new version washing machines and 2 new version compact dryers.

The washers received the ITCL codings and the entire range received symbolised fascias...


Post# 603285 , Reply# 110   6/13/2012 at 14:20 (4,334 days old) by hotpointfan (United Kingdom)        
Paul and Andy

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Thank you so much for clearing that up!

Love the compilation photo! And I think personally that the Liberator Super De Luxe would have been ahead of its time with the spin control!

Best Wishes

hotpointfan

P.S. Here is a video, from the fantastic Hass, on the machine above.


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Post# 603286 , Reply# 111   6/13/2012 at 14:20 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1824/01

The basic machine came in the form of the model 1824/01 Liberator, which replaced and sat in between the Zanussi derived 1823 and 1826 models.

Equipped with an economy wash option and a white door surround, the machine was single speed 800rpm and was without any provision for fabric softeners.

Thanks to James for the fascia drawing, which he kindly scanned for me as part of the instruction manual from the 1978 series....


Post# 603292 , Reply# 112   6/13/2012 at 14:26 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1828/07

This was the final 4 button standard Liberator.

As with the much earlier 1850, 1851 and 1851/03, this version received a simplified fascia, sans any programme details which I assume was back on the piece of removable card.

The world of dual spin had finally arrived and this model offered both 800 and 400 spin speeds.

Again, thanks to James for the fascia drawing scan.


Another detail difference was that the 1978 received a different door style, being chromed plastic with a crimp...


Post# 603293 , Reply# 113   6/13/2012 at 14:28 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1848/01

Top of the range was the new 1848/01 Liberator Super De Luxe, boasting variable spin from a high of 1000rpm, down to 400rpm.

A strange looking machine, but very smart with it...


Post# 603296 , Reply# 114   6/13/2012 at 14:30 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1509/10

The top loader also received a slight facelift and, for the first time, was actually called 'LIBERATOR' on its fascia!

Model 1509/10 Liberator Super De Luxe...


Post# 603300 , Reply# 115   6/13/2012 at 14:32 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1701/21

The dryer was slightly restyled too, with particular emphasis on the dial which now featured a purple band between the time numbers.

The full size machine also became the 'De Luxe' dryer of the range...


Post# 603302 , Reply# 116   6/13/2012 at 14:34 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1730

The reason for the 'de luxe'-ing of the 1701/21 was because there were new cpmpact offerings to the range.

The Model 1730 Liberator Dryer E was the front venting compact dryer...


Post# 603304 , Reply# 117   6/13/2012 at 14:35 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1721

The top of the range compact was modl 1721 Liberator Dryer, which offered compact proportions with rear venting...

Post# 603306 , Reply# 118   6/13/2012 at 14:37 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1721

and here is mine and Rob's preserved example of this model...

Post# 603312 , Reply# 119   6/13/2012 at 14:43 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The 1978 Best Buys

The new range was introduced in June 1978.

Following these in December 1978 was Hotpoint's first ever discount range - the Best Buys!

These adopted the budget plain white door surround of the Model 1824, along with white fascia sticker and clear door bowls.
As with machines through the 80s and the 90's, the white plastics used on these machines yellowed over the years.

Below is the full size dryer, confusingly called Model 1700 Super Dryer (this definitely wasnt the first Hotpoint dryer)...


Post# 603315 , Reply# 120   6/13/2012 at 14:48 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
No photo here :-(

The Best Buy washing machine, was Model 1827 Super Electronic, boasting economy wash, gentle action and slow spin options, with 800 and 500rpm spin speeds.

I have never seen a photo of this machine, but do own a powder drawer fascia from one.

Basically, take the Model 1700 dryer - add 4 switches in standard Liberator colours to the fascia and add a plain white (turned yellow) powder drawer fascia, with 'Super Electronic' in later 18 series standard script printed on it, to the mix and you have a 1827.



Post# 603317 , Reply# 121   6/13/2012 at 14:49 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
& finally...

Model 1731 Super Dryer was the compact offering. There was no rear venting version...

Post# 603319 , Reply# 122   6/13/2012 at 14:52 (4,334 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
thats it for tonight.

This evenings machines take us through to May 1979.

The following month would see a new series of restyled machines released for sale and the abandonment of the name 'LIBERATOR'.

to be continued!
Paul


Post# 603322 , Reply# 123   6/13/2012 at 14:53 (4,334 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        
Hi All

Your all very welcome for the scans :) suppose they are rare and so I am glad you appreciate them.

Paul - I sent you an e-mail with some 17230 snaps witch you can use if you want to.

Chris


Post# 603331 , Reply# 124   6/13/2012 at 15:16 (4,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint - The Liberators....

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Excellent thread Paul and all that have contributed, Hotpoint was the workhorse of British laundry from the first badged Maytag (Model E) gyrator machines, to the BTH cabinet models, its great to see the progression through the eyes of British Industrial Designers and Engineers...and also those field engineers, Thank You Hotpoint.

Heres my 1501 , the blue fascia definately makes it!!



Post# 603332 , Reply# 125   6/13/2012 at 15:18 (4,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint 1501

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Open top, full width lid...

Post# 603335 , Reply# 126   6/13/2012 at 15:21 (4,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint 1500 series

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Control Panel, Wash Temp and Timer...

Post# 603336 , Reply# 127   6/13/2012 at 15:22 (4,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint - The Liberators....

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Laundry Guide under lid

Post# 603343 , Reply# 128   6/13/2012 at 15:46 (4,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint - The Colour Purple!!

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1509 / 10 series



Post# 603344 , Reply# 129   6/13/2012 at 15:49 (4,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint 1509/10 Series

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Top View


Post# 603353 , Reply# 130   6/13/2012 at 16:21 (4,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint 1509/10 Series

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controls - Push buttons, the RHS was really pitted & grey, so I experimented with a laquer and filler painting individual layers until restored, I do have NIB spares but like the fact its original - a couple more layers to do on it!!

Post# 603354 , Reply# 131   6/13/2012 at 16:24 (4,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint 1509/10 Series

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Timeline

Post# 603355 , Reply# 132   6/13/2012 at 16:27 (4,334 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Does Your Automatic....

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"Tell You Its a Liberator"


Post# 603377 , Reply# 133   6/13/2012 at 17:11 (4,334 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Looks lovely, a shame the filter always came loose easily and wore away the print on these versions

Post# 603380 , Reply# 134   6/13/2012 at 17:18 (4,334 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield, East Midlands, UK)        
And just in case you missed it on Andy's thread .....

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Here is the 1600 - apologies if the double posting upsets anyone, but this is a wonderful machine

Al


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Post# 603415 , Reply# 135   6/13/2012 at 19:44 (4,334 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Hotpoint

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This is a truly excellent thread Paul. The history of Uk Hotpoint. Wow those top loaders. I just wish that i could add a touch of information but i can't for now, but i will try when you get a bit nearer to the end of it.

Post# 603490 , Reply# 136   6/14/2012 at 04:09 (4,333 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint 1509/10 Series

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Laundry Guide, Hi Andy , yes that tell tale sign - thankfully it was positioned where least damage was done!!!


Post# 603492 , Reply# 137   6/14/2012 at 04:14 (4,333 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint 1509/10 Series

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Interior money shot, vitreous enamel drum with the famous "Spiralator"...



Post# 603494 , Reply# 138   6/14/2012 at 04:20 (4,333 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint 1501

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With matching turquoise Spiralator and Filter-Flow tray

Post# 603496 , Reply# 139   6/14/2012 at 04:24 (4,333 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint 1501

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The early tubs where a lighter shade of grey vitreous enamel, and dont forget it had an outer vitreous enamel tub too, unlike the later models with plastic outer tubs.




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Post# 603498 , Reply# 140   6/14/2012 at 04:28 (4,333 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        

Hi Mike, So the 1509/10 had a viterous outer? Wonder if it was something like the plastic was being trialed on the 1504. Andy

Post# 603500 , Reply# 141   6/14/2012 at 04:51 (4,333 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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My amend hawk-eye lol, no just the first series, I dont know if the 1502 had, anyone got the manuals??

We could work it out by the weight because the outer tub weighs very heavy, does anyone have a spec sheet for the 1504 to check the weight??


Post# 603501 , Reply# 142   6/14/2012 at 05:04 (4,333 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        
Hawk eye! lol

Have 15790 manual, but never heard of a viterous outer, can imagine an unbalanced load would sound awful with the chances of the inner hitting the outer, ouch! Will have to dig if their is anything in the way of older manuals in my clutches on the TL's. Andy

Post# 603503 , Reply# 143   6/14/2012 at 05:31 (4,333 days old) by keymatic (London / UK)        

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Hi Mike,

Nice 1501 with with the Blue agi & filter tray, was the agitator blue or has that come out of your 1450 ? I know the filter tray and nozzle were, but the agi i have in my 1501 is white with a blue knob.

I can check out the 1504 weights when i get home tonight.
Keith


Post# 603508 , Reply# 144   6/14/2012 at 06:10 (4,333 days old) by andyvivo (Essex)        
The outer drum

from the service manuals show that
1507, 1509/01/02/05/10 are polyprolene
1504 polyprolene
1502 viterous enamel
I live and learn =)
Andy


Post# 603592 , Reply# 145   6/14/2012 at 13:22 (4,333 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Bravo, what a fantastic thread.
I don’t seem to have many photos of the 1851/03, here are a few internal and facers.

Drum


Post# 603593 , Reply# 146   6/14/2012 at 13:23 (4,333 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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all in one back panel removed

Post# 603594 , Reply# 147   6/14/2012 at 13:24 (4,333 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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front panel removed

Post# 603595 , Reply# 148   6/14/2012 at 13:25 (4,333 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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timer and options

Post# 603597 , Reply# 149   6/14/2012 at 13:28 (4,333 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Powder draw with conditioner compartment Pre restoration

Post# 603598 , Reply# 150   6/14/2012 at 13:29 (4,333 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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That door

Post# 603599 , Reply# 151   6/14/2012 at 13:31 (4,333 days old) by supertwin ()        

Loving this thread. Looking at the original 1504 toploader does it have the same timeline as the frontloader 1600?
My aunt had the 1504 deluxe bought in around '75 and this had a timeline with long med short wash. The original seems different.
Also the filterpan was the same as a twin tub some seem different.
She also had the 1701 dryer- which was binned last year after the door catch gave up.


Post# 603600 , Reply# 152   6/14/2012 at 13:32 (4,333 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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last one.

Post# 603821 , Reply# 153   6/15/2012 at 10:45 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

HI Lee.

Thanks for posting you photos of the 1851/03. Was hoping that you would and especially now as we move out of the purple era, in to mid 1979.

Thanks especially for posting the piccy of your machine with the front panel removed. The only ones I have are of our 18361, but was eager to show the removable front panel idea on an earlier machine, rather than on one of the last.

Machines look superb as ever and you must post some shots of your 18680, when we get there.

Cheers
Paul


Post# 603822 , Reply# 154   6/15/2012 at 10:50 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
In time for Summer 1979...

Hotpoint introduced a relieried range in June 1979.

Gone were the purple door bowl (replaced by clear), the purple switches and dial (replaced by brown) and the heavy chromed door was very firmly chromed plastic. The door had actually been replaced with the final Liberator series.

4 digit numbers were replaced by 5 digits.

Model 1824 was replaced by the 18340 Super Electronic...


Post# 603823 , Reply# 155   6/15/2012 at 10:52 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18380

The 1828/07 was replaced by the 18380 Electronic De Luxe - initially this was an 800/400rpm machine, but was later upgraded to be 800/500rpm...

Post# 603825 , Reply# 156   6/15/2012 at 10:54 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18580

The variable 1848/01 was replaced by the 18580 Super Electronic De Luxe.

Surprisingly, being a top of the line-ish machine, this seems to be the one that everyone bought and the model which has survived through to today in relatively high numbers.
There are three or four of this model knocking around in safe hands, whereas there are no 18340's or 18380's.

Spin speed was 1000/400 variable, as with its predecessor...


Post# 603828 , Reply# 157   6/15/2012 at 10:57 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 15690

the toploader 1509/10 was replaced by the 15690 Super De Luxe.

Originally this model was equipped with standard switches, but was quickly modified and most of the production run of this model were equipped with New Generation switches...


Post# 603830 , Reply# 158   6/15/2012 at 10:58 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 15690

here is a later 15690, showing the New Generation switches...

Post# 603831 , Reply# 159   6/15/2012 at 10:58 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 15690

greater detail...

Post# 603833 , Reply# 160   6/15/2012 at 11:00 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17230

Model 17230 Super Dryer replaced the front venting compact model 1730...

Post# 603836 , Reply# 161   6/15/2012 at 11:01 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17250

Model 17250 De Luxe Dryer replaced the rear venting compact Model 1721...

Post# 603837 , Reply# 162   6/15/2012 at 11:02 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
MOdel 17250

Mine and Rob's preserved Model 17250...

Post# 603840 , Reply# 163   6/15/2012 at 11:03 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17460

Model 17460 Super De Luxe Dryer replaced the 1701/21 Liberator Dryer De Luxe...

Post# 603841 , Reply# 164   6/15/2012 at 11:06 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18370

December 1979 saw the Best Buy Model 18370 Super Electronic introduced, replacing the previous Best Buy Model 1827.

This machine, being the discounted model, featured a matt silver fascia rather than reflective and also received a matt grey door surround...


Post# 603842 , Reply# 165   6/15/2012 at 11:08 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18370

Here is the preserved example - saved by Gary and now in the safe hands of Mathew. This machine has an insanely corroded backplate and though fixed with liquid metal, is in the queue for repair...

Post# 603843 , Reply# 166   6/15/2012 at 11:10 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17450

The dryer in the Best Buy range was Model 17450 Super Dryer, replacing the Model 1700 from the previous range.

Photos are from Gary (electron1100) of the machine he rescued, a week or so to him rescuing the 18370 shown above. Did they come from the same house?..


Post# 603845 , Reply# 167   6/15/2012 at 11:15 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
New Models to the Range!

No sooner had the new range been introduced, all new models were introduced to it in the form of a new top of the range front loader washer and a matching?....erm....yep.....matching tumble dryer.

Model 18780 Microtronic X2000.

This machine was Hotpoints 1st microchip control machine and carried a proce tag to match - ca £400.00 in 1980!

The first version was an 800/400rpm machine...



Post# 603846 , Reply# 168   6/15/2012 at 11:16 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18780

manual cover shot...

Post# 603847 , Reply# 169   6/15/2012 at 11:17 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18780

later run machines gained a chromed door surround...

Post# 603848 , Reply# 170   6/15/2012 at 11:19 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18880

...before the Microtronic X2000 was upgraded to 1000/500rpm and rechristened the Model 18880.

The machine was visually identical to the chromed door 18780...


Post# 603850 , Reply# 171   6/15/2012 at 11:21 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17660

Below is the matching dryer for the Microtronic X2000, in the form of the 17660 Reversomatic + Creasecare - Hotpoint's 1st reversing dryer.

This is the first version which, instead of a buzzer on/off button, had a mains on/off button.
This particular feature didnt last long...


Post# 603851 , Reply# 172   6/15/2012 at 11:23 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17660/2

With the mains on/off button replaced by a buzzer on/off button, the model was rechristened Model 17660/2 and below is Mikes preserved machine, that I picked up for him a couple of years ago...

Post# 603853 , Reply# 173   6/15/2012 at 11:28 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Let the tweaks begin!

With the full range of automatic models settled down to the following machines:

15690 toploader Super De Luxe
18340 2 button Super Electronic
18380 4 button Electronic De Luxe
18580 4 button variable Super Electronic De Luxe
18880 Microtronic X2000
17230 front venting compact Super Dryer
17250 rear venting compact De Luxe Dryer
17460 2 heat Super De Luxe Dryer
17660 Revrsomatic + Creaseguard
plus
the Best Buy Models 18370 and 17450


it didnt take long for subtle tweaks to result in two new versions. Subtle is the word too!


Post# 603854 , Reply# 174   6/15/2012 at 11:32 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18680

The very subtle tweak that resulted in the 18680 Super Electronic De Luxe model was the colour of the fascia backplate, which was changed from dark silver to bronze, to give a tste of things to come.

Apologies to Lee, but the only photos I have of this machine are of yours so I am stealing your thunder a bit.
Be great if you could post some more of it though! hint hint :-)

It remains unclear to me as to whether this model replaced the 18580, or whether it was sold alongside it...


Post# 603855 , Reply# 175   6/15/2012 at 11:34 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17560

As with the 18680, the only difference between the 17560 and 17460 was the bronze background to the fascia backplate.

Again, it remains unclear whether this model replaced the 17460 or whether it was sold alongside it.

The machine below is Mike's example...


Post# 603856 , Reply# 176   6/15/2012 at 11:38 (4,332 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

That takes us through to mid and late 1982.

The introduction of the 17560 and 18680 and their bronze fascia backplates provided a taster of the direction that Hotpoint would be taking next.

Will deal with the next 18-series tweak over the weekend, but here is a very unsubtle hint as to what came next...


Post# 603865 , Reply# 177   6/15/2012 at 11:56 (4,332 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
Paul,

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Thank you so much for this very interesting, fascinating and entertaining thread. Hotpoint automatic's were quite rare in our neighbourhood when I was growing up. A primary school friend had the 1509/10 top loader and my mum's best friend had the 1828/02. My sisters primary school friend had a 1600 in her house though unfortunately I never got to see it in action. I think it was the later 1830 model as I am pretty sure it had a stainless steel drum.

I inherited a 1701 dryer when I moved into a flat in Aberdeen. that was in 1992 and I had it up until I moved to Edinburgh in 1999 and it was still going strong. I have quite a soft spot for Hotpoint machines as the design was quite unlike other automatics, self explanatory simple to use controls that felt solid and well built.

Thank you again for this wonderful thread.


Post# 603884 , Reply# 178   6/15/2012 at 13:03 (4,332 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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More, more, you can’t leave me in this state of utter Hotpoint frenzy.

Post# 603887 , Reply# 179   6/15/2012 at 13:12 (4,332 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Back panel off, not much has changed since the 1850, what has changed, the suspension differs, the early machines had 3 dampers and no top springs, now 2 dampers and a pair of top springs. Motor control has also evolved from the D.C. thyristor to the A.C. triac control allowing the faster variable spin speeds.

Post# 603889 , Reply# 180   6/15/2012 at 13:19 (4,332 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Timers have also evolved on the inside the first having the Crouzet unit (fitted to my 1851/03) which is very quite in operation then the AKO timer came along with it’s unique sound.

Link to a video


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Post# 604456 , Reply# 181   6/18/2012 at 11:20 (4,329 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

thanks again for your photos Lee.

Your 18680 is certainly a smart looking machine.

Time to move onto the next phase of Hotpoint development, which was to basically 'Super Buy' the entire range of 17 and 18 series machines that they owned.
This comprised of replacing the classy silver door trims and fascias with bronze coloured features - effectively acting as market tester machines, for the route that Hotpoint was to take with their 'New' future models....


Post# 604460 , Reply# 182   6/18/2012 at 11:27 (4,329 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 15790 and 15792

Will have to cover this final series in model number order, as the introduction dates fluctuate wildly bewteen 1981 and 1986 and its just too complicated to fathom it out. Well, I cant be bothered doing it :-)

Lowest numbered in the brown series was the replacement for the 15690, in the form of the 15790 and 15792.

These were actual replacements and not, as most of the following machines were, Super Buy discounted models.

These were introduced in Septemeber 1982, as a way of having a bronze toploader in the range prior to the introduction of the 'New Generation' models.

As the new amond option was created, these machines followed the usual rule that models ending in a '0' were white, whilst those ending in a '2' were almond..


Post# 604462 , Reply# 183   6/18/2012 at 11:28 (4,329 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 15790 Super De Luxe

Below is mine and Rob's 15790...

Post# 604464 , Reply# 184   6/18/2012 at 11:29 (4,329 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
MOdel 15792 Super De Luxe

and Mikes almond 15792...

Post# 604466 , Reply# 185   6/18/2012 at 11:34 (4,329 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18331 and 18331/9

Both visually identical, model 18331/9 was an internally faffed about with 18331 Super Electronic.

This was the basic Best Buy model, with no fabric conditioner compartment, single spin speed of 800rpm and stud feet (so that the poor souls who bought it could have their lino ripped up when it was installed - much like today incidentally!).

Havent got an exact introduction date for either of these, as Hotpoint deemed them so very insignificant, they couldnt be bothered to actually state when they arrived on the scene...


Post# 604468 , Reply# 186   6/18/2012 at 11:37 (4,329 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18361

The 18361 Super Electronic differed from the basic 18331 by having a set of wheels underneath it and a dual spin capability of 500rpm and 800rpm.

Introduced in November 1981, these were equipped with the new A.K.O timer.

Two versions, though no change in model number, with the earlier version having a grey door trim...


Post# 604470 , Reply# 187   6/18/2012 at 11:39 (4,329 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18361

...whilst the later version had a smarter looking fawn door trim.

Below is mine and Rob's machine, courtesy of Mathew, with a video link underneath...


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Post# 604473 , Reply# 188   6/18/2012 at 11:42 (4,329 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18371

This Super Electronic was the standard 4 button machine and again was introduced circa 1981.

This model received a couple of variations in its appearance as well, with early machines having a 'more bronze' fascia, with a grey door...


Post# 604474 , Reply# 189   6/18/2012 at 11:43 (4,329 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18371

Mid production machines having the more usual grey edged fascias, again with grey door trim ...

Post# 604477 , Reply# 190   6/18/2012 at 11:46 (4,329 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18371

whilst the most common version was the final trim change to the fawn door trim.

This machine was an 800/500rpm model and below is mine and rob's example, which should be re-energised in a month or so's time...


Post# 604480 , Reply# 191   6/18/2012 at 11:50 (4,329 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18381

The final Best Buy bronze 2 or 4 button model was the 18381 Super Electronic, introduced in June 1983, as a final hurrah for the standard style 18-series machine.

This was sold alongside the 95's, acting very much as the budget standard machine...


Post# 604482 , Reply# 192   6/18/2012 at 11:54 (4,329 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The exclusives - Model 1842 and 1852....

During the bronze 18-series era, there were two non-microtronic exclusive washing machines commissioned by Currys.

The earlier of the two was model 1842 (note the return to a four digit model number!) Super Electronic.

Below is mine and Rob's machine, which still hasnt been tried out, circa 2 to 3 years after it was purchased.

Model 1842 was introduced in November 1981...


Post# 604485 , Reply# 193   6/18/2012 at 11:59 (4,329 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1852

June 1983 saw the arrival of the experimental model 1852 Super Electronic. This machine was effectively the publicly available prototype test bed for the soon to be commonplace plastic outer tub.

Prior to the introduction of this machine, even the New Generations that came off the line had enamel outer tubs. Once the success of the tubs in this machine was proven, they were rolled out across the range.

Almond with, like the 1842, 500 and 800rpm spin speeds.

The machine below is mikes and was saved from oblivion by Gary (electron1100) - note the regular type of damage inflicted on 17 and 18 series machines, whereby the door hinge is pulled off by people assuming that its the door release...


Post# 604488 , Reply# 194   6/18/2012 at 12:04 (4,329 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18680 in bronze??????? HELP!!!!!!!!!

Mathew in Cardiff owns two of these fascia stickers for model 18680 Super Electronic De Luxe, but in bronze.

Now I havent the foggiest idea as to whetrher these were later replacements for the silver version 18680 (like Lee's) or whether model 18680 was actually subjected to and sold in the shops with a bronze tan.

I have never seen a picture of such a machine and nowhere is a colour change affecting this model mentioned in any official documentation that I have seen.

Anyone able to categorically state, through 100% accurate memories, as to whether the variable 18680 was sold in bronze?


Post# 604489 , Reply# 195   6/18/2012 at 12:05 (4,329 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Bronze Microtronics and dryers will be dealt with over the coming week.

Cheers
Paul


Post# 604499 , Reply# 196   6/18/2012 at 12:42 (4,329 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Thank you Paul for a fantastic thread; I have been glued to the computer, thank you, thank you.

Model 18680 in bronze??????? HELP!!!!!!!!!

There is no mention of this in issue No6 Aug85 service information, its only remark is that it has brown controls with slight appearance changes to the 18580 and introduced in Sep82.

Perhaps the fascia sticker above is a cheap replacement spare instead of reproducing the more expensive metal original!!


Post# 604693 , Reply# 197   6/19/2012 at 07:04 (4,328 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
The Nitty Gritty...

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Excellent thread as always Paul, always love the work & imput you put in for us...

Superb,
Hass.


Post# 604905 , Reply# 198   6/20/2012 at 01:40 (4,327 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

So, what era were the "Purple" themed Hotpoint machines made before they switched over to using brown buttons?

What era were the "Brown Button" machines was well?

I have to admit that the purple machines really stand out and are quite unique..

If these machines could be converted to 120v, I would consider bringing back a purple-themed TOL front loader and top loader back here. :)



Post# 604932 , Reply# 199   6/20/2012 at 04:39 (4,327 days old) by paulinroyton (B)        
Wow

Hi Paul.

Thanks for doing this thread. Found it a fantastic read. Such a shame the Hotpoint top loader is not made anymore. My mum use to have one and was a great machine.

My Hotpoint spin dryer still working fine. It's so smooth in operation.

Can you do a thread on servis next, would love to see more pics of the mk72.

Cheers

Paul


Post# 605204 , Reply# 200   6/21/2012 at 04:50 (4,326 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Lee.

I have had the thought that the bronze 18680 fascia sticker was a simple relacement in thye new colour scheme.
Have never seen nor read about an all bronze 18680 either.


Hi Hass.
Glad you are enjoying the thread - nice to be able to repay some of your hard work with the Laundry Lab! You have done a major service to appliance history and research, with your youtube channel. Its a real credit to you.


Hi Bud.
The purple/amethyst Hotpoint Liberators were introduced in 1973 and were on sale through to mid 1979.
The silver fascias then took over as the core range, from mid 1979 through to circa 1982, when replaced by the all new 'New Generation' range.
The bronze machines were introduced, initially running alongside the silvers, and stayed in full range production through to 1982/83, with the odd exclusive model being produced through to 1986. The Bronze 18-series machines became the budget range, alongside the full price New Generations.

Paul


Post# 605205 , Reply# 201   6/21/2012 at 04:56 (4,326 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Paul.

Glad that your Hotpoin 1006 is still doing the trick. You got an absolute steal there!

Will endeavour to do a combined Hotpoint and Hoover twin tub, single tub and spin dryer thread, when I have recharged the batteries after this one.
They are harder ranges to fathom out and there are surprisingly loads of Hotpoing Supermatic exclusives that I have never found photos of.
Fulness of time - one will be done.



Servis wise - even harder as information is so sparce. There is virtually no official servicing information about, no official introduction dates and loads of vacant Mk numbers with no machines to tie to them.
BUT
automatic wise, things are easier to fathom. So, again in the fulness of time, some sort of history will surface I am sure.

Paul


Post# 605206 , Reply# 202   6/21/2012 at 05:04 (4,326 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The final exclusives - Microtronics 18871 and 18872

The 1st Microtronic exclusive was Model 18871 Microtronic L.E, which introduced the Low Energy feature to the 18-series.

The 18871 was an 800/500rpm machine and was initially introduced in March 1983.
It was then internally upgraded to 18871/2 in January 1984 and 18871/3 in April 1985.


Model 18872 was the almond bodyshelled version, for which I have never found a photograph. Anyone able to oblige?
It underwent the same upgrades as the 18871 and was reintroduced as 18872/2 and 18872/3 at the same times...


Post# 605208 , Reply# 203   6/21/2012 at 05:09 (4,326 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18873

The Comet exclusive Microtronic L.E, introduced in June 1985 and was the last 18-series Hotpoint.
Spin speed was boosted, over the previous exclusives, to 1000rpm.

Have never found a photograph of this machine, but it undoubtedly stars in the link attached...


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Post# 605209 , Reply# 204   6/21/2012 at 05:12 (4,326 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Bronze dryers to follow soon, followed by Hotpoint's 'NEW' range.

Paul


Post# 605575 , Reply# 205   6/22/2012 at 11:36 (4,325 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
17230 super dryer

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Exploded diagram front

Post# 605577 , Reply# 206   6/22/2012 at 11:38 (4,325 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
17230 super dryer

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Exploded diagram back
Looks to be a nice compact unit, I will have to keep a look out for one.


Post# 605579 , Reply# 207   6/22/2012 at 11:44 (4,325 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Here are some 17230 shots that I took ages ago. Sadly, I couldn't save it:(

Post# 605581 , Reply# 208   6/22/2012 at 11:45 (4,325 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Shot 2 - control panel

Post# 605584 , Reply# 209   6/22/2012 at 11:48 (4,325 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
Microtronics 18871 and 18872

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Console and Dispenser

Post# 605585 , Reply# 210   6/22/2012 at 11:48 (4,325 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Shot 3 - lifter paddle and door with filter

Post# 605586 , Reply# 211   6/22/2012 at 11:50 (4,325 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
Microtronics 18871 and 18872

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Chassis and Cabinet

Post# 605587 , Reply# 212   6/22/2012 at 11:52 (4,325 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
Microtronics 18871 and 18872

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Drum Assembly

Post# 605588 , Reply# 213   6/22/2012 at 11:55 (4,325 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
17230 super dryer

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It’s a shame the dryer could not be saved.

Post# 605720 , Reply# 214   6/23/2012 at 02:22 (4,324 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Hotpoint

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Thank you very much Paul for all your time and effort in producing yet another excellent manufacturer thread, like hoover the model changes can be bewildering and yet fascinating.

I am definateley in the 70s when it comes to favourite Hotpoint machines

Gary


Post# 605819 , Reply# 215   6/23/2012 at 15:37 (4,324 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        
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My Grandma had a 18371 and matching dryer from new until 2010. The washer had the motor brushes replaced a few times and I think she said the belt was replaced too. Other than that, it had no repairs. The dryer had no repairs at all. Both served a family of 8 and then later served my Grandma, Aunt and 2 god awful cousins. Sadly, they were both chucked in a skip when my Grandma got a new kitchen fitted in 2010 and replaced with an integrated Candy washer/dryer. I got no say in this, I might add. Stupid woman.

Post# 605870 , Reply# 216   6/23/2012 at 19:42 (4,324 days old) by aegokocarat (United Kingdom)        

My mother had two supermatic twintubs, the first one she bought when she first got married, the second she bought in the early 90s, then in 96 she bought her first automatic and she sold the supermatic to a family friend who is sadley no longer with us.
My bloomin horible aunt allways had hotpoint washers, the first one she had was a baisic new generation style machine or somthing along those kines.
Tom :-)


Post# 606008 , Reply# 217   6/24/2012 at 15:38 (4,323 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Lee
Thanks for the exploded diagrams of the 17230 and Microtronic - very helpful for the detail of this thread.

Hi Chris
Thanks for the 17230 photographs. I had totally forgotten that you had sent them to me, but its better that you were able to post them yourself and add some details.

Hi Gary.
Agree that the 70s was a classic era for Hotpoint. Your recent A3060 repair, might offer me some hints and tips for the resurrection of a certain 1828/02! Really have everything crossed that all comes together with your New Magic!

Hi Chris.
Gutting about the 17 and 18 being tipped, especially when done under your nose. Much like me and a Zanussi S218T which I think has recently been disposed of unfortunately, despite a claim being put on it. Sigh :-(

Hi Tom.
When I get the energy, I intend on doing a thread on Hoover and Hotpoint twin tubs, so your family machines should get covered eventually.


Cheers guys.
Paul



Post# 606009 , Reply# 218   6/24/2012 at 15:42 (4,323 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17221

December 1980 saw the arrival on the scene of the Best Buy compact Model 17221 Super Dryer, as the match of 18331, 18361 and 18371 models...

Post# 606010 , Reply# 219   6/24/2012 at 15:44 (4,323 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17221

and here is mine and Rob's machine - note the curse of the 'white' plastic, that afflicted most of the Hotpoint compacts of this style...

Post# 606011 , Reply# 220   6/24/2012 at 15:48 (4,323 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Models 17330 and 17332

This was the standard compact and had a high heat/low heat switch over the 17221.

17330 Super Dryer was the white cabinet version, whilst the 17332 was the almond cabinet version (I have never see a photograph of this latter model).

Both models arrived in June 1982...


Post# 606013 , Reply# 221   6/24/2012 at 15:51 (4,323 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17351

This was a single heat, full size Best Buy dryer, introduced in April 1981.

As with the matching 18361 and 18371, there was an initial grey door trimmed version...


Post# 606014 , Reply# 222   6/24/2012 at 15:55 (4,323 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17351/2

Warmed over internally to produce model 17351/2 in November 1982, the grey door trim gave way to fawn.

Below is mine and Rob's preserved example...


Post# 606015 , Reply# 223   6/24/2012 at 16:00 (4,323 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17451

This 'Super Dryer' was the standard full size Best Buy offering and, as with the other machines of this particular ilk, came initially with the grey door trim.

This machine was introduced in December 1980 and below is mine and Rob's preserved example, dating from date code 36 - December 1980!
This could be the oldest 17451 still in existance...


Post# 606017 , Reply# 224   6/24/2012 at 16:06 (4,323 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17451/2

Introduced in November 1982, this version was given an extra bronze treatment, producing a very dark looking machine with little in the way of detailing.
This was the final 17-series standard dryer and was a match for the Model 18381 Super Electronic washing machine...


Post# 606019 , Reply# 225   6/24/2012 at 16:12 (4,323 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17760

This was a restyled 17660/2, with the addition of a bronze fascia with silver band, rather than an all silver/grey fascia.
This ensured a colour tie in with the later bronzed Microtronics.

Below is mine and Rob's machine...


Post# 606020 , Reply# 226   6/24/2012 at 16:15 (4,323 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
& finally - the Currys exclusives.

Model 1737 Dryer was the Cuurys exclusive match to the model 1842 washing machine and was introduced in November 1982.

Never seen a proper photo of one of these machines, but do own a couple of fascias...


Post# 606021 , Reply# 227   6/24/2012 at 16:17 (4,323 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1762

this was the Currys exclusive match to the almond cabinet Model 1852 washing machine and was introduced in August 1983...

Post# 606024 , Reply# 228   6/24/2012 at 16:23 (4,323 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Well folks....

that brings us to the end of the 17 series dryers and 18 series washing machines. Production began in 1973 with the 1701 and 1850 and ended circa 1986/87, with the 18873 Microtronic L.E for Comet.

The replacement machines had begun production in 1982, so the old series was carried on for the better part of 5 years afater in could have been discontinued.

Will roll back the clock to 1982 in a day or so - time for a 'New Generation'!

Cheers
Paul


Post# 606027 , Reply# 229   6/24/2012 at 16:34 (4,323 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        

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Thanks again for this great thread Paul. Here is a pic of my sisters 1762 dryer she got off gumtree a few months ago. Unfortunately the belt has broken now and I suspect the bearings will need replacing. I am waiting for her to order the parts and I will hopefully be able to get it up and running again.

Post# 606431 , Reply# 230   6/26/2012 at 14:10 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Thanks Paul

Really hope that the 1762 gets repaired soon. Though noisy, they are superb dryers for sure.

Paul


Post# 606434 , Reply# 231   6/26/2012 at 14:24 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The NEW GENERATION arrives - 1982!

As with the other Hotpoint ranges, the introduction of the New Generation series was a piecemeal introduction over a number of years.

This was the opposite of how Hotpoint's great rival used to do things, with Hoover preferring a much more BIG BANG style introduction of new ranges, with the Smoothers and the various Electron Ranges all tending to be introduced at or around the same time.

Though Hotpoint New and Next Generations are famous for their plastic tubs, it wasnt until around 1984 that they became standard fixtures.
Most early 95's, from budget two switch versions right through to the Microtronic's, were originally fitted with enamel outer tubs, until the design was proven in the model 1852 and handfuls of 95 prototypes that were released to the public.

The timeline of the Next Generations is much easier to decipher, so will try and deal with them in introduction order. Here goes....


Post# 606439 , Reply# 232   6/26/2012 at 14:44 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
1st release - Model 95450 and 95452 'Electronic De Luxe&

This was the 4 switch, 500/800rpm initial standard 95 machine, released to the market in September 1982.

I first encountered a 95450 in 1982 when my godmother moved house, leaving cast off Hoover 3226 Keymatic, Hoover 3236H Automatic De Luxe, Hoover 3022 Dryer De Luxe and a Mk42 Servis Supertwin behind her at the old house. Today she would get a fair few hundred quid for those machines she left behind!!!!
The replacement machine was a brand new 95450 and matching dryer stacked on top. These will have been some of the first New Generations released.
The 95450 was a hard worked machine, doing the wash for a house of 5 people and my dad did many a repair on it, in its later years.


In contrast was my mothers 95452, which was bought towards the end of 95450/452 production, when they had become Currys exclusive versions.
This machine worked flawlessly from 1985 through to 1992, when a very heavy coat unfortunately overheated and blew the original motor.
A new motor saw the machine work on, with nothing but the obligatory replacement sets of brushes from time to time.
It lasted until 2005, having given 20 years sterling service. Had it lasted two more years, it would still be around today in mine and Rob's collection. Since my parents machine was disposed of, I have only ever seen one other appear on ebay - seemingly this was a rare version...


Post# 606443 , Reply# 233   6/26/2012 at 14:49 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
1st Release - 93580 and 93582 ' Super De Luxe Dryer'

This was the initial New Generation dryer release and it was a 93580 that sat atop my godmothers 95450.

Also released to market in September 1982...


Post# 606444 , Reply# 234   6/26/2012 at 14:54 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 95130 - Super Electronic'

Released in late 1982/early 1983, this was the basic New Generation machine, sold under the discount 'Super Buy' banner and widely available in mail order catalogues.

As with the 95450/452, this was also an 800/500rpm machine...


Post# 606445 , Reply# 235   6/26/2012 at 14:55 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 95132 - Super Electronic'

and its almond counterpart....

Post# 606446 , Reply# 236   6/26/2012 at 14:58 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 95360 'Electronic Super Plus'

Also a 'Super Buy' model, this version boasted a Half Load option over the basic 95130/132...

Post# 606447 , Reply# 237   6/26/2012 at 15:00 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 95362 'Electronic Super Plus'

Its almond counterpart, for which I have never been able to find an actual photograph!

The three switch version were rare models anyway and its seems that the 362 is the rarest....


Post# 606449 , Reply# 238   6/26/2012 at 15:06 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Models 95620 and 95622 'Super Electronic De Luxe L.E'

Released to market in April 1983.

This was the first New Generation 1000rpm machine and came equipped with variable spin, button controlled door release and Low Energy programmes - hence the 'L.E' bit!

Default wash temperatures were 10degrees lower than stated on the fascia, unless the Super Wash switch was flicked, then the extra 10degrees was added back on...



Post# 606450 , Reply# 239   6/26/2012 at 15:10 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 93470 'Super Dryer'

Introduced in May 1983, this was the 'Super Buy' dryer, to match the 95130 and 95360...

Post# 606451 , Reply# 240   6/26/2012 at 15:11 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 93472 'Super Dryer'

and the basic almond dryer, to match 95132 and 95362...

Post# 606455 , Reply# 241   6/26/2012 at 15:14 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Models 93730 and 93732 'Reversomatic + Creasecare'

Also introduced in May 1983...

these were the top of the range dryers, to match the 95620 and 95622 and the end of the line 15790 and 15792 top loaders.

There would be more New Gens that they would match the following year!


Post# 606456 , Reply# 242   6/26/2012 at 15:16 (4,321 days old) by chris_hastings ()        
95490

I have a nice example of one of these machines in my garage

Post# 606457 , Reply# 243   6/26/2012 at 15:19 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Models 95840 and 95842 'Microtronic De Luxe L.E'

Meant to state that the 93730 and 93732 would have another New Gen match, the following month (though they would have another the following year too!).

June 1983...
saw the release of the top of the range front loader, in the form of the microchip controlled, all button fascia Microtronic L.E.

A very smart looking machine for sure...


Post# 606458 , Reply# 244   6/26/2012 at 15:21 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and a poorer quality picture of the Microtronic duo, but without the crease...

Post# 606460 , Reply# 245   6/26/2012 at 15:25 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17420 'Super Dryer'

December 1983, saw the New Generation compacts introduced to the market. Note that the white plastic doors on this inital version werent immune from yellowing either...

Post# 606461 , Reply# 246   6/26/2012 at 15:27 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 17422 'Super Dryer'

Here is the almond version, showing the less bland later style fascia and bronze door, in the familiar style...

Post# 606462 , Reply# 247   6/26/2012 at 15:28 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Models 17430 and 17432 'Super Dryer'

This was the dual heat version compact.

All four compact models were introduced at the same time...


Post# 606464 , Reply# 248   6/26/2012 at 15:33 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Models 95490 ' Electronic De Luxe'

March 1984...

this was an upgraded 95450/95452, with a boosted to 1000rpm maximum spin.

Roughly around this time, the 95450/452 became Currys exclusives.

Below is Chris' example - the right way up! :-)
Great machine in very good looking condition too. Congratulations on its acquisition, Chris!


Post# 606465 , Reply# 249   6/26/2012 at 15:34 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
and 95492 'Electronic De Luxe'

the almond version...

Post# 606468 , Reply# 250   6/26/2012 at 15:37 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Models 96700 and 96702 'Super De Luxe L.E'

and finally, the toploaders got the New Generation treatment, with fully electronic controls that dispensed with the need for a seperate temperture dial.

These were introduced in June 1984...


Post# 606470 , Reply# 251   6/26/2012 at 15:39 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The year is 1985 ....

and no sooner had a full range been introduced, Hotpoint started to tweak and modify and introduce exclusives....

Post# 606474 , Reply# 252   6/26/2012 at 15:49 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

March 1985...

and following whinging from the electricity board, the digital Microtronic De Luxe L.E was modified to include a 'Time Delay' function, to enable the buyer to take advantage of Economy 7 electricity rates.

This updated version of the Microtronic was the first to have the new model numbering system applied to it. As well as dropping a seperate model ending in '2' to denote the almond bodyshell, the model numbers went from 5 to 4 digits.

The Next Generation (an unofficial range name, employed by Discuss O' Mat-ters to differentiate the original New Generation from the later 95's) numbering system had begun.

These machines became 9550A and 9550W, though the A or W were omitted from the fascia to remove the requirement for two styles to be manufactured.

Happily, in the last couple of weeks a 9550 has just been saved - hoping for an update soon, guys!

The 9550's are very rare machines and here is the only photo I have of one, in the form of a 9550A...




Post# 606475 , Reply# 253   6/26/2012 at 15:55 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Ooops - Models 93730/2 and 93732/2

Nearly forgot - February 1985...

visually identical to the original 93730 and 93732, the top of the range dryers received some internal tweaking and were reintroduced as /2 versions.


Post# 606477 , Reply# 254   6/26/2012 at 16:03 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 95470 'Electronic De Luxe'

Sometime in 1985, the 95490 was modified and received a bronze door, being rechristened as 95470 in the process.

Maybe a trial to see whether the mass, middle of the road market would be offended by bronze instead of chrome?



Post# 606479 , Reply# 255   6/26/2012 at 16:04 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 95472 'Electronic De Luxe'

Likewise, the 95492 morphed into 95472...

Post# 606480 , Reply# 256   6/26/2012 at 16:07 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
ENGLISH ELECTRIC 1355

The old name, lost back in 1973, returned to the market in the form of the Woolworths and Comet exclusive model range.

The first to arrive was the compact Model 1355, in May 1985...


Post# 606482 , Reply# 257   6/26/2012 at 16:08 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
ENGLISH ELECTRIC 1375 'Tumble Dryer'

June 1985 saw the arrival of the rest of the EE/Hotpoint exclusive range.

Below is the 1375, in this case branded as a Hotpoint...


Post# 606483 , Reply# 258   6/26/2012 at 16:11 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
ENGLISH ELECTRIC 1535W 'Automatic'

The basic washing machine reintroduced the word 'Automatic' to the world and was based on the 95130...

Post# 606484 , Reply# 259   6/26/2012 at 16:15 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
ENGLSH ELECTRIC 1545W 'Automatic De Luxe'

Here was the standard machine, derived from the 95490 with its 1000rpm spin speed (the 1535W was an 800rpm machine).

The photos below are Gary's and are of a machine taken to the tip, where he worked. It was to be saved, but unfortunately received more damage after these photos were taken, when Gary wasn't there. Hey ho - sigh.....


Post# 606488 , Reply# 260   6/26/2012 at 16:23 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Hotpoint's 1st Washer Dryer! Model 9900A and 9900W

the 'Combination Washer Dryer L.E'.

This was Hotpoint's first ever foray into the world of the washer-dryer and was in a shortlived New Generation style, with chrome door etc, but with the vertical buttons giving a hint of things to come!

The 9900A...


Post# 606490 , Reply# 261   6/26/2012 at 16:25 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 9900W

the white version.

The machine on the left hand side is now in the safe hands of Mike King and is in one of the many restoration queues, that we all have...


Post# 606492 , Reply# 262   6/26/2012 at 16:32 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Models 9570 and 9571

These two models were Rumbelows exclusives and were the last New Generation models that weren't introduced as part of the following 'Next Generation' series.

There introduction date was October 1985, with the 9570 being the 'Super Electronic' (derived from the 95130) and the 9571 being the 'ELECTRONIC DE LUXE 1000' (derived from the 95490, but with the button arrangement from the 95620).

No photos are known to exist of the 9570, but the 9571 is shown below.

The machine with the bronze door has possibly received a replacement door, whilst the machine with a chrome door has definitely received a replacement powder drawer fascia, but also might have received a replacement door.

Was the 9571 a bronze or a chrome model? I don't know for sure...


Post# 606493 , Reply# 263   6/26/2012 at 16:37 (4,321 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
'Thankyou Hotpoint'

Well, thats everything Hotpoint had to offer automatic wise from 1963 through to 1985.
One or two missing photos of elusive machines to find yet, but pretty much everything else shown in both technicolour and black and white.

Thanks for reading and 'Thankyou Hotpoint' :-)

Paul


Post# 606506 , Reply# 264   6/26/2012 at 17:30 (4,321 days old) by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        
Almond...

Seems to have changed dramatically over the few decades it spanned. From very yellow during New Gen production to a more Almond colour during the Next Gen era and finishing up very faint during the WM's.

Lovely thread. Shame I've nothing to add to it.

James.


Post# 606613 , Reply# 265   6/27/2012 at 07:30 (4,320 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
hotpoint 95622

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Thank you Paul


For the hours of work in the production of this thread, you’re fantastic in-depth knowledge and dedication to Hotpoint is out of this world.  I have been glued to the computer every day; I am determined to find another 18 series machine to add to the numbers of surviving machines in our collective.


 


Photo of my 95622


Post# 606614 , Reply# 266   6/27/2012 at 07:34 (4,320 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Video 95622




Post# 606617 , Reply# 267   6/27/2012 at 07:48 (4,320 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
hotpoint 95622

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95622 plastic tub

Post# 606620 , Reply# 268   6/27/2012 at 07:50 (4,320 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Cabinet design changed, separate side panels spot welded to the base and back assembles.

Post# 606622 , Reply# 269   6/27/2012 at 07:53 (4,320 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Kept the removable front panel for easy access for repairs.

Post# 606624 , Reply# 270   6/27/2012 at 07:55 (4,320 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Top cover off, also easy access for repairs.

Post# 606634 , Reply# 271   6/27/2012 at 08:48 (4,320 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        
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Thanks for posting the diagrams. Love the video too, nothing like that Hotpoint growl and the whine when it kicks into spin. I really miss my 95450. I bought it as a recon machine in 1993/4. It really was a great machine, washed really well, it was quick and span surprisingly well for an 800rpm machine.

An ex had a 9900A, to this day it is still one of the best washer dryers I have ever used. Dried very quickly without baking the load to death.

A big thanks again to Paul for all the amazing info he has provided on this thread.


Post# 606740 , Reply# 272   6/27/2012 at 18:22 (4,320 days old) by FL1012 ()        
Cheers Paul.

Thank you Paul for uploading so many of the photos. Brings back many childhood memories including sitting on the kitchen floor watching my Mum's first automatic washing machine, a 95450, as a 2 year old! Bought in 1984 following my arrival in 1983, it worked pretty damn hard for 11-12 years, doing many a boil wash full of my Terry Towling nappies - don't see many of them on people's washing lines anymore! It needed alot of repairs i'm not gonna lie - brushes every year, blocked gravity trap a couple of times, pressure switches (filled up to the top of the door on more than one occasion!), umpteen door seals and a new door where i decided to use it as a step upto the worktop. But it worked bloody hard, no doubt about it. We said goodbye to it in late 1995-early 1996 when a service call-out for for a leak or overfilling episode revealed one of the suspension legs was beginning to part with its mountings. We continued to use it for around 6 weeks but decided to replace before we completely killed it. It went to one of my Dads work colleagues who was to use it for spares for his machine. An Indesit Omega (1196W) replaced it.

My Mum also had a 17221 Super Dryer, bought as a wedding present in 1981 i believe. This was much more sucessful. Used for 18 years it worked flawlessly until the metallic tapping noise which it'd made periodically for about 5 years became permanent. It also occasionally failed to start tumbling but the heater would activate, resulting in a burning smell. As these symptoms became more frequent we decided it was time to say fairwell. It was replaced temporarily by Grans Creda Compact 3 before being permanently replaced by the Electrolux Premier TDC1000W in 2001, which we still have today :-)

My Auntie had a 17230, passed down from my other Auntie. It was rarely used once passed to my second Auntie & got dumped & never replaced when the temperature button plastic broke. A great shame.

My other Auntie owned a 95622 washer & either 93730 or 93732 dryer - probably the almond one since everything else including Hotpoint fridge freezer & Creda cooker were almond. She may still own them today since we no longer see her. Both were reliable, save for water leaking from the powder draw on towel loads on the washer. I suspect the always immaculate 95622 has been scrapped by now but the dryer may well live on, as many do.

Finally, the 18871 Microtronic L.E! This was my Grans machine from as long as i remember up to around 1996. It too worked with only a couple of call-outs, despite serving my grandparents & their pub for many years. It ran so much more smoothly than Mum's 95450 & i loved the digital display & how it used to say things like (to my knowledge) lower-case r1, r2 for Rinse 1 & Rinse 2 - extremely basic digital display by todays standards but with it's green program progress indicators was a treat for me to watch! The electronics totally died around 1996 & it was replaced by a Tricity Bendix AW405, which was horrifically basic (1 button & no power light!) That has only just been replaced!

Unfortunately money was very tight in the family at the point Mum & Gran's Hotpoint washers packed-up, so both were replaced by cheaper machines. As these both proved more reliable than the Hotpoint's and with Hotpoint's reduction in quality in the early 2000s, we've never returned to the brand, save for a fridge & freezer in my Parents rented-out appartment. However, the brand does have a place in my mind & heart for probably being responsible for part of my identity today & why i still head for the Utility Room at stupidly regular intervals while a wash is on!

Thanks for posting the info & photos once again.
Liam


Post# 606801 , Reply# 273   6/28/2012 at 01:39 (4,319 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
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Thanks Lee for the information and video of your excellent 95622 it looks good and sounds good and it has decent water levels a perfect combination by my standards, well done on keeping it running

Gary


Post# 607428 , Reply# 274   7/1/2012 at 10:38 (4,316 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Quick update!

Thanks to everyone who has commented, particularly to Lee for posting all the servicing diagrams - really useful - and also for the photos of his machines in varying states of sans panels! Really helps to show the construction of these machines and how relatively easy they were to gain access to.

Picked up another machine yesterday and have spent yesterday afternoon and today cleaning it up, as good as can be done.
It needs a replacement fascia, new door seal and the small pipe reattaching to the pressure bottle.
Will need some rust treatment too, to the outer shell just above the powder drawer - had to remove a good layer of powder and liquid crud which had worked some unwanted magic over the years....



Post# 607431 , Reply# 275   7/1/2012 at 11:01 (4,316 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Fantastic, fabulous, I can’t speak, another one saved.
Hyper ventilating, breath, I will have to eat a bag of crisps quick so I can use the bag.

More photos please, well done, how do you find them, I want another one.



Post# 607434 , Reply# 276   7/1/2012 at 11:18 (4,316 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
17230 super dryer

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on ebay some one give it a home, please.
To far away for me.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO hotpoint95622's LINK on eBay


Post# 607438 , Reply# 277   7/1/2012 at 11:49 (4,316 days old) by aquarius8000 ()        

Paul - what ever that is, well done and please post pictures!

Lee - Frustrating, it is once again too far.

On ebay, there is an odd looking hotpoint witch I like the look of but havent seen one before.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO aquarius8000's LINK on eBay


Post# 607644 , Reply# 278   7/2/2012 at 12:03 (4,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
An extra hint!

If the ratings plate is true, then it is one of these!!!

Post# 607651 , Reply# 279   7/2/2012 at 12:33 (4,315 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
PT

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oh you are a bad boy Paul :-)

Even i like those only having seen one in the flesh


Post# 607660 , Reply# 280   7/2/2012 at 13:03 (4,315 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18873

The final link in the 18-series Microtronic history.

This is the Comet exclusive, which was introduced to sale in June 1985 and was the last Hotpoint 18-series introduced. This particular machine is from September 1985.

Now - the photo!
The photo is DOCTORED, in that I have modified the photograph to hide the damage to the fascia, for the purposes of attaching a photo of a 18873 to this thread.
This is because the thread will probably fall off the end of the forum and become un-updateable, before the machine can be tidied up for real.

The machine currently has a chunk missing from the fascia to the upper left of the powder drawer and has screws through the facia to the sides of the middle bank of buttons and three more screws around the mains on/off button.
Brittle plastic didn't only affect the New Generations!

So, it turns out that the 18873 is visually identical to the 18871 Super Buy model, but has simply been given a beefier motor to give it a 1000rpm top spin speed.

I will set up a seperate thread for this particular machine, as it receives a replacement fascia and is given a check over. Fingers crossed it works!

A fitting end to this thread methinks. Thanks for viewing.
Paul
p.s Liam - unless you know for sure that your Grans machine was an 800rpm 18871, then she could have had a 1000rpm 18873!


Post# 607662 , Reply# 281   7/2/2012 at 13:31 (4,315 days old) by paulc (Edinburgh, Scotland)        

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Congratulations Paul and Rob on your new acquisition!!! A truly great machine.

Post# 607767 , Reply# 282   7/2/2012 at 20:13 (4,315 days old) by miele4life (UK )        

what a wonderful thread, I'm so fascinated by the history of these Hotpoint's, my memories include a 18- Series model that my Aunt used 2 have, I remembered it being really loud, especially going into it's spin cycle lol, and an old neighbour of mine had a similar tumble dryer too.

I'm glad that folks on here have preserved some of these models, so well done 4 saving them before going to the dreaded crusher.

I think this thread should continue beginning with the Next Gen models, then going to the blue forum with models going up to the present day as a suggestion :)



Post# 607850 , Reply# 283   7/3/2012 at 04:15 (4,314 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Microtronic 1000 X2000 Almond AutoWasher

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Hi Paul,

Saw you were after an X2000 Microtronic 1000 AutoWasher in Almond.

I know it's not the real deal, but I hope this replica'll come close.

I'll work on another Microtronic tomorrow, & one of my own version Microtronics for you tomorrow.

CJ


Post# 607851 , Reply# 284   7/3/2012 at 04:20 (4,314 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Hotpoint Microtronic 1000 AutoWasher 9554A

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Hi Paul,

Here's the 9554 in full, in Almond, with the chrome door.

My own version, to follow.

CJ


Post# 607858 , Reply# 285   7/3/2012 at 05:25 (4,314 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Microtronic X3000 1800 Washer Dryers

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Paul,

As promised, here're my version of the Microtronic (as a Washer Dryer) in their relevant colours.

CJ

X3000A (Almond)


Post# 607859 , Reply# 286   7/3/2012 at 05:27 (4,314 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
X3000C

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X3000C (Chrome).

Post# 607860 , Reply# 287   7/3/2012 at 05:28 (4,314 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
X3000G

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X3000G (Graphite).

Post# 607861 , Reply# 288   7/3/2012 at 05:29 (4,314 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
X3000W

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X3000W (White).

Post# 607863 , Reply# 289   7/3/2012 at 05:32 (4,314 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Sorry Mike

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Sorry Mike,

Only just seen your message. Didn't have my IGoogle page open on a separate tab, only the AW thread.Plus, I'm somewhere, where the net connection's a bit dodgy.

Sorry bout that.

CJ


Post# 607864 , Reply# 290   7/3/2012 at 05:41 (4,314 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Liberator Dryer

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Almost forgot,

I used to stay in a cottage near Caernarfon, North Wales, the lady who held the key for the cottage, for the owners used to have a Liberator Dryer, just inside the kitchen door way, it was partner to an Indesit 1200 AutoWasher WDG1296W.

Sorry again Mike.

CJ


Post# 607866 , Reply# 291   7/3/2012 at 05:46 (4,314 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Microtronic...

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CJ - No probs....

Paul, great way to end the thread, I remember selling the 800rpm the independants stores, always loved the slanted panel like the Creda machines!!

What does it sound like??

Cheers, Mike



Post# 607971 , Reply# 292   7/3/2012 at 15:18 (4,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi guys.

thanks again for the comments and am real pleased that its proved a nice nostalgia rush for people. Hopefully a useful reference resource for people too.

Mention was made of the Next Generation and a new thread....rest assured that one will be done, though after I have recovered from doing this one. My computer, being very old, struggles to load this thread (apologies if it temporarily kills your computers too!), so updating and creating these history threads takes an absolute age.
The Next Generation will definitely be covered in the near future.

CJ - you are a real dab hand with your designs and I always have a gander at your threads. You have a real skill for design.

Just a bit of tale end tidying up to do now...


Post# 607974 , Reply# 293   7/3/2012 at 15:20 (4,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

first off - a fully scanned and less washed out picture of the 1824 Liberator...

Post# 607975 , Reply# 294   7/3/2012 at 15:21 (4,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and the same with the 1828/07 Liberator De Luxe...

Post# 607981 , Reply# 295   7/3/2012 at 15:26 (4,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
The preserved New Generations....

Suddenly realised that I hadn't posted pictures of many of the preserved machines, though a superb looking 95490 did get a look in earlier in this thread.


Here is the 95360 Electronic Super Plus, sans its sidestrips and a rusty lid (since replaced, as has the later next gen style dial)...


Post# 607984 , Reply# 296   7/3/2012 at 15:36 (4,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Richard in Bristol's 95450 Electronic De Luxe...

Post# 607986 , Reply# 297   7/3/2012 at 15:39 (4,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

95620 Super Electronic De Luxe L.E, with Lee's superb 95622 almond version posted earlier in the thread...

Post# 607989 , Reply# 298   7/3/2012 at 15:42 (4,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

95842 Microtronic De Luxe L.E ...

Post# 607990 , Reply# 299   7/3/2012 at 15:44 (4,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

96702 Super De Luxe L.E ...

Post# 607992 , Reply# 300   7/3/2012 at 15:50 (4,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

9900W Combination Washer Dryer De Luxe L.E - in the restoration queue...

Post# 607993 , Reply# 301   7/3/2012 at 15:52 (4,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

17430 Super Dryer...

Post# 607995 , Reply# 302   7/3/2012 at 15:53 (4,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

93580 Super De Luxe Dryer .... still on the lookout for a replacement dial!

Post# 607996 , Reply# 303   7/3/2012 at 15:54 (4,314 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
& finally, photograph wise...

93730 Reversomatic + Creasecare ...

Post# 608244 , Reply# 304   7/4/2012 at 13:35 (4,313 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
hotpoint 95622

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Wow, 18873 what a smart looking machine, I like the brown, bronze door and trims.
Can’t wait to see a thread about this one.
Much appreciation to you Paul for this great thread.


Post# 790527 , Reply# 305   10/25/2014 at 08:08 (3,470 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
UPDATE re: Model 1830

Apologies for readers of this having to endure loading up all the above pictures, but a couple of new photos warrant an update to this thread.

First off, courtesy of an Argos Catalogue from 1974 (thanks to Chris for posting the link), here we have the first confirmed image of the Hotpoint 1830!

Confirmed differences over the Model 1600, linked solely to visual appearance, were a white lid, with white dials and switch gear.
Also confirmed that the machine carried over the clear door bowl, versus being 'Liberatored' with a purple one.


Post# 790528 , Reply# 306   10/25/2014 at 08:11 (3,470 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Update re: Model 1508

transpires that there were two versions of the 1508, with the previous images of this model being of the earlier version.

Appears that circa 1973/74, the 1508 was restyled with a silver fascia versus the bluey/purple of the original.

A good image below, showing the lid up and drum access.


Post# 790529 , Reply# 307   10/25/2014 at 08:13 (3,470 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

and a second image showing the silver fascia better, with orange switches...

Post# 790535 , Reply# 308   10/25/2014 at 08:52 (3,470 days old) by hotpoint95622 (Powys)        
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Thanks for the up-dates Paul

I still love running though this thread from time to time.

Lee

PS The loading time is well worth the wait…


Post# 792348 , Reply# 309   11/6/2014 at 11:24 (3,458 days old) by hotpointfan (United Kingdom)        
Hi Paul

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Hello Paul, thanks for adding to this great thread, and I have a small question to ask, if you can answer.

I am soon to acquire a Hotpoint 1731, from my mum's friend, who inherited recently from her grandmother in law. It's not had much use, and as she has small children and lot's of washing, the 1731 isn't the most convenient, so she's replaced it, and passing it on to me soon. It works, apart from the timer not working so you have to keep an eye on it or it just keeps going, as she discovered when she accidentally on overnight once!

Anyway, onto the question. On the picture of the 1731 you posted on this thread - Reply 121 - shows a dryer with coloured bits in traditional Liberator fashion, however this one appears to be more browny/bronze on the fascia and the dial is brown instead of purple, so is it a slightly later version?

Thanks - not just for the impending advice which I know will be EXCELLENT as per usual, but for the whole inflo thread!

Many thanks!

Jacob


Post# 792931 , Reply# 310   11/9/2014 at 15:05 (3,455 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Jacob.

I think your 1731 is a standard model, but might require a wipe over of the fascia to resurrect the silvery finish. There appears to be some staining/discolouration of the fascia, on the machine in your picture.
Dial wise, I would assume it is a replacement dial if its in brown. As far as I know, all 1731's will have been decked out in purple.

The picture below is of a 1731 on ebay, the auction of which ended today - I didn't buy it :-( Very tidy machine, with a not very yellowed door too!

Good luck with the acquisition Jacob - set up a thread to show it off your 1731 when it arrives.

Paul


Post# 793312 , Reply# 311   11/11/2014 at 20:41 (3,453 days old) by miele4life (UK )        
matchboxpaul

thanks for the updates, I know it's slightly off topic but still in the Vintage forum, apparently the 93x5 series tumble dryers were sold in parallel with the 93x6 Aquarius Drying System models, we'd like to know if these rumours were true, many thanks :)

Post# 793871 , Reply# 312   11/14/2014 at 12:29 (3,450 days old) by hotpointfan (United Kingdom)        
Paul

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Thanks for that, I wondered if it had discoloured, so would a clean just remove the discolouration? Please could you let me know if any specialist products are required?

Thanks very much, been looking forward to it, however, it may be a couple of weeks until it arrives.

Thanks very much.

Jacob


Post# 895066 , Reply# 313   8/22/2016 at 13:40 (2,803 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Hotpoint 95620...

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Hi guys, I have a question for you Hotpoint fans, regarding Hotpoint New Generation (95620). It's been so long ago now, that I have forgotten how some of the wash phases went.

I have provided you a link of the Hotpoint 9513 doing a synthetic cycle no "6". Ten minutes in to the video, it does a stepped cool down/1st rinse combo. Aka it intakes water whilst it drains and rinses.

Did all Hotpoint's including the (95620) do that to? I simply cannot can't remember if mother's machine did that, as she never used the synthetic cycles so much.

Thanks in advance,
Hass


CLICK HERE TO GO TO thelaundrylab's LINK


Post# 895913 , Reply# 314   8/27/2016 at 07:14 (2,798 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Hi Hass.
Directing me to that video brought memories of my parents 95452 flooding back - yep, theirs did that for sure.
Despite owning a 95620, 95360 and a 95842, I can't confirm or deny this feature with those models, as I have never been in charge of turning them on and can't associate their actions with a specific programme.

Hopefully next year, post house rebuild, we will be in a position to check for you.

Paul :-)


Post# 895914 , Reply# 315   8/27/2016 at 07:18 (2,798 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 18872

2016 Update number 1.

Bought a catalogue on disk a number of months ago and it contained a small, poor quality unfortunately image of the almond 18872 Microtronic L.E.

To the best of my knowledge, this is the only image of this model ....


Post# 895916 , Reply# 316   8/27/2016 at 07:27 (2,798 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        
Model 1827

2016 Update number 2

Not a photo, but a line drawing from a Currys advert from the Daily Express March 23rd 1979.

The Best Buy 1827 Super Electronic ....


Post# 895918 , Reply# 317   8/27/2016 at 07:33 (2,798 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

As with all updates to this thread, apologies for the time it probably takes to load.
Hope your perseverance was worth it?

All the best.
Paul


Post# 895922 , Reply# 318   8/27/2016 at 08:25 (2,798 days old) by chetlaham (United States)        
GE Filter flo vs UK Hotpoint

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Question. How are the two related? UK Hotpoints seem to have similarities to GE filter flos. The link pan, snubers, motor to pump connector...

Post# 895945 , Reply# 319   8/27/2016 at 12:48 (2,798 days old) by Pedro (London)        

Hass,

I had the 95360 growing up and can confirm it did the same kind of step rinse/cooldown.

In the vid you've shared the machine has some very short tumbles/drum bursts during the cooldown which i don't recall my 95360 doing, it would sit and fill before the pump would kick in and the machine would tumble before stopping, the pump switches off and it continues to fill. I also don't remember that part of the cycle taking as long as the one in the vid but i was young at the time so could be mistaken...


Post# 896520 , Reply# 320   8/31/2016 at 04:21 (2,794 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Great Pictures...

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Hey Paul, great pictures of the curry's exclusive, for the Hotpoint Liberator range. I'm confused to what you mean by the Hotpoint 18872 it being the only image of that model? Was there more than one...?

Not to worry, I'm sure my question will be answered soon enough. In the mean time I shall wait with anticipation lol. Glad it brought back memories for you Paul, Pedro. Oh... guessing the Hotpoint 9513 made during 'New Generation' series...? Thought I'd attach and indclude the image of Hotpoint's New Genartaion Factory where all the New Generations series started. Would love to see what was included in this brochure for Hotpoint's workers. They made it sound so exciting.

Hass :)



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