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Post# 662045   2/24/2013 at 10:28 (2,475 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        

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Heres the old thread for the Hooveresque vintage Soviet washing machines and others!!


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Post# 662050 , Reply# 1   2/24/2013 at 10:31 (2,475 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Soviet Washing Machines

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Hello Ivan, we are all fascinated by your Soviet washing machines, the little single tub with spinner looks very sturdy and practical, looking forward to seeing more of them in action....

Thank you for showing and sharing your history with us all, Mike


Post# 662052 , Reply# 2   2/24/2013 at 10:33 (2,475 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Single Tub with Spinner

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Post# 662053 , Reply# 3   2/24/2013 at 10:42 (2,475 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza)        

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Nice mechanism!

Just wondering if the Gripo machine I've seen have a similar spinning mechanism....
But I can see no lever nothing to change to spin drive....actually looks like it does have a spinning basket you stuck in what seems an agitator....

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Post# 662055 , Reply# 4   2/24/2013 at 10:55 (2,475 days old) by bellalaundry (Hamilton, Canada)        
Beautifully simple!

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I'd use one!

Guy


Post# 662056 , Reply# 5   2/24/2013 at 10:56 (2,475 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Gripo

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Thats looks another fascinating washer and spinner Freddy, I wonder if you turn the agitator to change the direction of wash to spin, have seen that done on a machine but cant think where!!

Post# 662058 , Reply# 6   2/24/2013 at 11:09 (2,475 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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I remember what a fun education this thread was, so many unusual treats.

Mike, regarding Freddy's link, are you thinking of the portable Easy Spindry where you lift the tub to switch from wash to spin?


Post# 662059 , Reply# 7   2/24/2013 at 11:10 (2,475 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Soviet Washing Machines

I am pleased that these washing machines cause your interest, I think in the future to add a few more videos.

Post# 662060 , Reply# 8   2/24/2013 at 11:29 (2,475 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Gripo

I'm a washing machine not experienced, but I think that it is removed basket centrifuge and set activator that washing.

Post# 662061 , Reply# 9   2/24/2013 at 11:37 (2,475 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        
What a wild unusual intriguing machine! Oh those Russkies!

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Just watched the vid while eating brunch. So interesting how much like an automatic the machine is, except for the PUMP! LOL. The agitator, so familiar, the spin, so fast, the cool switch for the motor.

How about the off balance indicator? The giant control stick vibrates like crazy to let you know. Loved that.

The huge chrome circumference is so good-looking and rich.

If I had this, I would work like crazy to fashion a hose around the D-shaped spigot, so as not to have to interrupt the spin-- much easier on the longevity.

I really love this stuff, Mike. Thanks.


Post# 662062 , Reply# 10   2/24/2013 at 11:40 (2,475 days old) by mickeyd (Hamburg NY)        

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And a big thanks to Ivan. The translations are wonderful! We could learn a bit of Russian.

Post# 662065 , Reply# 11   2/24/2013 at 11:49 (2,475 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Ivan great video

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showing us how your machine works. It looks like an Energia  (Энергия)  Rocket motor!! Do you know how fast it spins on centrifuge?

 

Jon

 


Post# 662076 , Reply# 12   2/24/2013 at 12:49 (2,475 days old) by daniil158 ()        
Washing machines

Hello! My name is Daniil. I also collect washing machines
Soviet period. Ivan and I have only the Soviet brands because
western brands, was not available in the Soviet Union. Unfortunately we do not have Hoovermatic, Maytag, etc. But we are glad that you are interested in our washing machines.

Here are some videos that you may also be interested. It is a some washers
made in communism era in action. :)

1.HAJDU HIM "E" made in Hungary. Years of manufacture 60th.



2.HAJDU 303.1 60th, 70th.



3.Foron WM 600 (GDR East Germany)



4.Romo twin-tub. Made in Czechoslovakia. I think 70th, 80th.





Post# 662078 , Reply# 13   2/24/2013 at 13:03 (2,475 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Washing

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Ivan .yes we are very interested and look forward to more pictures and videos etc.

Daniil, many thanks for your postings as well and a warm welcome to you both, you both have a great array of classic washing machines, love those Roma twin tubs...

Mickey, yes I think you are right with the easy twintub, also we have a wringer washer here, an English Electric Ritemp which you turned the top of the agi to disengage the washer action whilst the wringer operated...

Guy, what fun these machines look, and very practical to use, imagine what a difference they must have made to washday!!

Jon, you`ve not gotten room for any more...Ha ha, Louis is on route to collect it!!



Post# 662080 , Reply# 14   2/24/2013 at 13:08 (2,475 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Agitator makes 40 rev / min, and spin drer - 800 r / min. Balancer in the washing machine no gearbox with engine suspended on springs, in the bottom of the tank is inserted rubber sleeve, which supports the spindle. Seals on the shafts do not, at this accumulation of water in the tank is not allowed, otherwise it gets into gear.Attaching a photo of the instructions, longitudinal section.

Post# 662081 , Reply# 15   2/24/2013 at 13:12 (2,475 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
device

Attaching a photo of the instructions, the form below.

Post# 662091 , Reply# 16   2/24/2013 at 14:16 (2,475 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza)        

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Mike & Michael:  Did not know and think of this possibility of twisting it to engage spin. Thanks for letting me know.
 That would be the explanation likely, looks like cap is larger than the spin basket though....
Ivan: I'm new also into these kind of  small compact washing and spinning machines all in one,  you surely are more used to, never heard of Gripo before yesterday...
Your ЭАЯ 3 is so nice, similar of  a Thor automagic but compact so smaller , cylinder shaped and with wheels....
I think they were way more delicate machines than the usual wringer type, impeller ciyinder machines,  or twin tub  you were used to over there, glad it lasted and it's working after all these years... or did you have to fix something? Does ot always been yours?

 

Didn't understand well what you meant Ivan about the Gripo though sorry... did you maybe mean it does have a direction selector  for motor drive to spin and one for washing?

Anyway....

I'll have to discover it myself if I manage to get it.....


Post# 662092 , Reply# 17   2/24/2013 at 14:34 (2,475 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Twin Use

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Hi Freddy, I think Ivan means its a single tub, you use the agitator to wash and rinse and then pull out the agi and snap in the spinner, so its a single tub with twin use, here is an example!!

Here it is washing!!


Post# 662093 , Reply# 18   2/24/2013 at 14:34 (2,475 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
And Then

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Push the drum in to spin..


Post# 662094 , Reply# 19   2/24/2013 at 14:36 (2,475 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza)        

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Oh Okay got it!

Thank you Mike!


Post# 662095 , Reply# 20   2/24/2013 at 14:38 (2,475 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
ЭАЯ 3 1954

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I can see why you need such a large water waste pipe, you these have been placed near a floor drain at all? instead of emptying it into a bucket?

Post# 662097 , Reply# 21   2/24/2013 at 15:01 (2,475 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        
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That is wonderful. Do you know how many households had machines like these? Were they affordable to a factory or office worker?

In 11th grade, my Economics teacher gave a lecture explaining the Soviet planned-economy system and used washing machine production as an example. I daydreamed about what they must be like, now I know!


Post# 662098 , Reply# 22   2/24/2013 at 15:11 (2,475 days old) by redcarpetdrew (Fairfield, CA)        
Fantastic thread!

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Welcome to new friends! My father's side came from the Ukraine and I still, to this day, wish I had been able to learn the language. Ivan and Daniil, welcome to the AW family. You'll fit right in. I love seeing and learning about new things a d this thread is just awesome.

Mike, thanks for the pics of the machine where you switch agitator for spin tub. I had no idea this existed but still, it makes sense. Was this about the only example or was this design actually common but only in another country?

RCD


Post# 662203 , Reply# 23   2/24/2013 at 23:24 (2,474 days old) by qualin (Canada)        

I love the wash action of impeller machines.. These are some beautiful machines.

Post# 662242 , Reply# 24   2/25/2013 at 02:36 (2,474 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
ЭАЯ 3 тысяч&

The bathrooms did not drain the water draining normally use a bucket or tub (bath, 30-40 liters). This washing machine worked from 1954 to 1996, it is not repaired, not even changed the grease in the gear box.

Post# 662247 , Reply# 25   2/25/2013 at 03:26 (2,474 days old) by MikeKLondon ()        
Like to see more

Really enjoyed see this thread its so interesting to see unusual machine like these. I Ďm so looking forward to seeing more.

Post# 662248 , Reply# 26   2/25/2013 at 03:34 (2,474 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Total agreement.......

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With the above comments I have found it fascinating to see machines from other countries.

Austin


Post# 662250 , Reply# 27   2/25/2013 at 03:48 (2,474 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
EAYA 1954

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Was this a very popular washing machine then Ivan? did you know many family and friends that had one?


Post# 662251 , Reply# 28   2/25/2013 at 03:52 (2,474 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Spin Wash

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Hi Andrew, this was the only machine like this I have come across, they were not here in the UK, I suppose these multifunction units are like the Thor Automagic with dishwasher attachment, very neat and fun to use although a twinny is more practical for a large family wash...



Post# 662252 , Reply# 29   2/25/2013 at 04:07 (2,474 days old) by MikeKLondon ()        
Black Box

Please Except my apologies if this point had been explained before, I have only had time this morning to skim over this tread, I spent most of my time watching to video. Can I just ask what the black box is thatís taken out of the tub? Is it some kind of transformer? What voltage is the machine running on? In addition, whatís the standard voltage in SU

Post# 662258 , Reply# 30   2/25/2013 at 04:18 (2,474 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Morning Mike

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Which post / machine do you mean?

Post# 662259 , Reply# 31   2/25/2013 at 04:28 (2,474 days old) by MikeKLondon ()        
Hi Mike

The machine in your post Post# 662052 , Reply# 2 the single tub with spinner I'm talking about the box that taken out of the tub with cables attached

Post# 662262 , Reply# 32   2/25/2013 at 05:56 (2,474 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza)        

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Mike (Kent):
The voltage in Russia is 220 volt and cycle/frequency is 50 hz like in europe..... not sure if in Russia was like in italy when during early 50s was usual to find both voltages in homes....

Just curious about the round thing pulled out of tub also....
Also Ivan, could you tell me what is that knob that you twist while showing machine in the first minutes, at minute 0:44?
Thank you!


Post# 662269 , Reply# 33   2/25/2013 at 06:56 (2,474 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Ahhhh

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Gotcha, but not a clue, over to Ivan on that one!!

Post# 662280 , Reply# 34   2/25/2013 at 07:46 (2,474 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Welcome Daniil!

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Thanks for showing us how your machines work! I will bet Chestermike is drooling after a ROMO! Mike, I never saw you use that pre-squeeze technique of pressing the lid down on the washer side while loading the spin dryer!! Tsk tsk!

 

Ivan thanks for posting the diagrams, so I see the 

ЭАЯ 3 did have a balance system but the factory avoided the seal problem by having the machine drain below the rubber shaft bumper.

Interesting idea if you have floor drains or a big enough bathroom!

 



Post# 662291 , Reply# 35   2/25/2013 at 09:29 (2,474 days old) by daniil158 ()        
My russian washer.

In the videos washing machines, not mine. I found this videos on YouTube and decided to support Ivan. I'm still a beginner in terms of collecting. :)
I have now only 3 washers. One of them I can show here.

This is my twin-tub washing machine "ZVI". Name of this washer, "ZVI".(Rus: "Zavod Vladimira Ilyicha") (Eng: "Plant of the Vladimir Ilyich") Made in 1965.
Now I have problems with spin dryer. On casing some corrosion. No drain hose.
When spring comes, I will need to restore it.


Post# 662292 , Reply# 36   2/25/2013 at 09:31 (2,474 days old) by daniil158 ()        
Photos

Without lid.

Post# 662293 , Reply# 37   2/25/2013 at 09:32 (2,474 days old) by daniil158 ()        
Photos

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Post# 662294 , Reply# 38   2/25/2013 at 09:33 (2,474 days old) by daniil158 ()        
Photos

Wash tube.

Post# 662296 , Reply# 39   2/25/2013 at 09:34 (2,474 days old) by daniil158 ()        
Photos

Spin dryer.

Post# 662297 , Reply# 40   2/25/2013 at 09:36 (2,474 days old) by daniil158 ()        
Photos

Control panel.

Post# 662312 , Reply# 41   2/25/2013 at 10:57 (2,474 days old) by MikeKLondon ()        
ZVI / AEG

The ZVI shown here reminds me of an AEG Luvalux from around the same date

Post# 662313 , Reply# 42   2/25/2013 at 10:59 (2,474 days old) by MikeKLondon ()        
ZVI / AEG

The ZVI shown here reminds me of an AEG Luvalux from around the same date

Post# 662315 , Reply# 43   2/25/2013 at 11:14 (2,474 days old) by RevvinKevin (So. Cal.)        

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Hey Daniil, Great to see you finally posting here on AW!
Welcome to both you and Ivan!

(Daniil and I have conversed and shared videos through Youtube for many months.)

Here are a couple videos of a unique machine Daniil shared with me a while back. Can't remember if it's Russian or not...

Kevin










Post# 662344 , Reply# 44   2/25/2013 at 12:42 (2,474 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Черный ящ

Black box, which I take out of the washing machine - it's a transformer. In the Soviet Union there were two voltage 127 V and 220 V, in 1967, in Moscow, have only 220. Washing machine "EAYA-2" had an engine that could switch 127/220V, and "EAYA-3" was produced for only one voltage 127V or 220V.The appliance is designed for 127V voltage.Little black handle - is the engine switch, which is constantly running at idle speed until the big lever is set to "On" when I switch the lever to the left, there is a "wash", and if the right to "SPIN"

Post# 662350 , Reply# 45   2/25/2013 at 13:02 (2,474 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza)        

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Ivan, not sure, maybe it's me not understanding what you mean, but I thought the motor power switch was the knob shown at the minute 2:40 of the video...
You mean that knob at 0:44 is a fuse?
Thank you.
So many questions!Tongue out


Post# 662353 , Reply# 46   2/25/2013 at 13:07 (2,474 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
# 662315

This washing machine "Perobot" was produced in the Czech Republic in the 50s. Models were heated and unheated water.

Post# 662355 , Reply# 47   2/25/2013 at 13:15 (2,474 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
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I made a mistake, sorry. This is a nut that clamps the ground wire, which is Join of the water pipe. This is necessary for safe operation, the use of water (when water is poured into the hose from the tap), or you may receive an electric shock.

Post# 662369 , Reply# 48   2/25/2013 at 13:38 (2,474 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza)        

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No Problem.
Thank you Ivan!


Post# 662396 , Reply# 49   2/25/2013 at 14:55 (2,474 days old) by cleanteamofny ((Monroe, New York)        

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Great videos fellas and welcome to the group!

Post# 662405 , Reply# 50   2/25/2013 at 15:15 (2,474 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

Superb thread and thanks to Ivan and Daniil for the information on their interesting and unusual machines. Certainly something different from the norm.

I too see AEG Lavalux in Daniil's ZVI twin tub, mike.
The paint finish accentuates the heavy duty build quality of this style of machine.

Superb machines Daniil and Ivan!
Regards
Paul


Post# 662508 , Reply# 51   2/26/2013 at 03:02 (2,473 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Washing Machines

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Hi Kevin, Those Perobot washing machines are very unique, nearest we had to it was the GEC spacemaker...CandyBimatic has many great videos and collections of washers, the small spiralator certainly moves those clothes around!!


Post# 662510 , Reply# 52   2/26/2013 at 03:10 (2,473 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
ZVI....

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Hi Daniil, the ZVI looks like it is an AEG clone, a very sturdy and heavy machine, its the only twintub of the era that we know has 3 electric motors, one for wash, spinning and the pump, whats is wrong with your spinner?

Here`s a pic of the 1960`s AEG


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Post# 662546 , Reply# 53   2/26/2013 at 09:01 (2,473 days old) by daniil158 ()        
AEG Lavalux

Hi Mike! Nice washer!! Yes, I know this model.I saw it in your album on Flickr site.
Nice collection Mike! I like your washers and vacuums!

Spin dryer in "ZVI" does not work. I think that the bad connection somewhere in the wires. It will be necessary to disassemble the engine and see. "ZVI" also sturdy and heavy as Aeg Lavalux. This machine have two motors. First for wash, second for
spin dryer. Pump is connected to the spinner motor. In addition, the pulsator can be unscrewed! Perhaps "AEG Lavalux" also has this opportunity?


Post# 662566 , Reply# 54   2/26/2013 at 11:41 (2,473 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Some Questions for our Russian Friends:

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Since life in the old Soviet Union was very different from life in Russia today, I am hoping some of our Russian members can tell us more about the following:

1) Were these machines available to everyone, or were they "special" merchandise available only to favored Party members?

2) What did they cost?

3) How were they sold? Were there special shops for appliances, or did department stores like GUM sell them?

4) How were they repaired? Were there repair agencies one could call?

5) When did true automatic washing machines appear under the Soviets?

6) Were automatic dryers ever available under the Soviets?

7) I have heard that American appliances were available in Soviet Russia, if one had the right connections and was rich. Does anyone know more about this?

Thank you for showing us such wonderful machines!


Post# 662578 , Reply# 55   2/26/2013 at 13:11 (2,473 days old) by daniil158 ()        
Answers to questions.

I have not lived in the Soviet Union. I was born in 1993. I live in Estonia.
Estonia former Soviet country. But I know a lot about the Soviet Union

1. Of course they was available for everyone normal people.
2. They cost much. If you count.
It was possible to take the credit. Loans in the USSR was "interest-free".
3. They are sold in stores. As in all countries.
4. If the washing machine is broken, it passed into the workshop or
repairing themselves. If the "warranty" is not over then handed over to the "warranty workshop".
5. The most famous was the automatic washing machine "Vyatka" automat.
Vyatka is the name of the river in Russia. There were also other different brands.
6. About automatic dryers are not heard.
7. Perhaps they were.
Ordinary people bought Soviet appliances. As for the government, I think they bought Western appliances, such as Maytag, Hoover, GE and etc. Sailors usually brought Western appliances from abroad. They had this technique. If sailors had friends or relatives, they would give them this appliances.

P.S! In USSR did not pay for water on the counter.


Post# 662583 , Reply# 56   2/26/2013 at 13:36 (2,473 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Daniil:

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Thank you so much. These are very interesting answers.

Here in America, we had only a little information about life in the Soviet Union, and much of what we were told was anti-Communist propaganda.

So, it is good to hear more from people who lived in Soviet times.


Post# 662589 , Reply# 57   2/26/2013 at 13:56 (2,473 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza)        

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Danil.
Hi|!

I believe Sandy meant in which  years automatic washers, did enter in homes in Russia, at lest widely ....

Actually I did some researches myself about Russian machines before,  and what I could see/notice is that in Russia looks like  is still usual to find many homes and families still using semi automatic washers and twin tubs only,  I could not see many  different automatic machines  of before the 90s.... is that a  correct information?
About the Vyatka  (Вятка-автома) I've seen that  online before, not sure where but I remind the fact they had plastic doors not glass and a black boot...most looked to be the about mid 70s or 80s machines.......





Post# 662592 , Reply# 58   2/26/2013 at 14:12 (2,473 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
So....

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....From what I can find online, the Vyatka machine (like the Vyatka Automat-14) was a European-style front-loading automatic, not an American-style top-loader.

It appears that Vyatka is now owned by Candy. I hope they make a dryer by now. I should think that anyone in Russia would appreciate a dryer in the winter-time.

Here's a link to the Vyatka Website; I cannot find a link for an English-language version:



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Post# 662595 , Reply# 59   2/26/2013 at 14:38 (2,473 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Washing machines in the USSR

In the Soviet Union were produced large Number of washing machines, they were different on all at once will not tell).Before the reform, in 1961 the salary of a laborer is 900-1300 rubles, and after the reform 90-130 rubles. ZVI was worth in 1965, 130 rubles, Riga-55, in 1957 - 900, and in 1962 - 90 rubles. EAYA-3 sold in stores for 600 rubles, while its cost was 1500 rubles, and the state gave the plant a grant to do a washing machine available to the public.Automatic washing machines appeared in 1976. The first was a washing machine "Volga-10", which was produced not remember. In 1978 he released a washing machine "Kishneu-2", and in 1980 - "Kishneu-4" (Chisinau, MoldavskayaSSR), these machines were produced little, because they are not in great demand among the population due to the high power consumption and the complexity of the connection.These washing machines have a top-loading washing drum and spring suspension.In 1985, the production line "Vesta", Kirov, washing machine goes "Vyatka-12" front-loading laundry. All these washing machines had load of 4 kg of dry clothes.And "Vyatka" is available in two versions - cold water or mixed-use (cold + hot water) which saves time and energy.In 1986, at the "Spotlight", Moscow, on the basis of semi-automatic washing machine washing machine "Eureka 3M" manufacture automatic washing machine "Eureka automatic 11", top-loading, no spring suspension drum has a capacity of 3 kg. dry washing.All these washing machines cost in the range of 350-550 rubles, depending on the model and configuration. They heated water wash cycle took place fully automatically, without human intervention. The number that is specified in the model, shows the number of wash programs.Washing machines, "Eureka" and "Vyatka" produced in large quantities and distributed all over the Soviet Union and the socialist countries (Cuba, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, and others). They are durable and are still in use in the population. "Eureka" is less convenient, in this they are almost never used, but the "Vyatka" more convenient and similar to the current models, though it has a large size (590 ◊ 600 ◊ 800 mm).

Post# 662599 , Reply# 60   2/26/2013 at 15:01 (2,473 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Washing machines in Russia

Now the population of Russia to use a lot of washing machines. People who live in cities and have apartments have to buy a washing machine, it saves time and effort. People, who live in private homes without running water have to buy a standard washing machine. Elderly people, pensioners, which is hard to find in electronics also use conventional washing machines.Often, people who live in the city have a country house with a land where summer growing vegetables and fruits for yourself and stock up for the winter, take away children on holiday. Just to the country often take away old washing machine out of the city when they buy new automatic washing machines.If there is no country-house, then throw away the old washing machine to the dump or give to those who need it.

Post# 662601 , Reply# 61   2/26/2013 at 15:13 (2,473 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza)        

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Probably some Vyatika even made out to Italy on border with Eastern countries like Croatia so, I just remember it was really a common brand to see on internet about machines in eastern countries like Hajdu and Polar!

And it was also usual to see those small H axis toploader with no suspension like AEG used to make also....

This polish machine is a Vyatka  like most I saw, did they have an heater also? I guess they did  not though.....


It looks definitely so! It looks is a mixed valve one!


Regaeding the "Kishneu" and "volga" I'm just curious about the type of machines they were....

Why the Kinshneu had greater power consumptions?  Because of the heater? What did they made difficult to install?
How about hot water connections for washing machines in Russia? Do homes have hot and cold hook up usually? Or most washed with cold water only in lack of a self heating automatic machine?

Thanks for the detailed explanation!





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Post# 662602 , Reply# 62   2/26/2013 at 15:26 (2,473 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Russian names

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If you look at the link to the old thread at the top of this page, Ingemar (Gorenje from Slovenia) gave a great example of the naming of Russian Appliances, I`ll paste it here...

"Morning :)

You have to know that quite all of the Soviet brands were "geographical" names.

Like for example some appliances brands:

"Vyatka" washing machines (name of a river), "Minsk" refrigerators (name of a city), "Moskva" refrigerators (name of a city), "Saratov" refrigerators (name of a city), "Dnepr" vacuums (name of a river), "Riga" washing machines (name of a city) ... and so on. "Čajka" vacuums (seagull) This one is a bird, not a geographical name.

"Evrika" was also a well known brand of washing machines along with "Vyatka" in the Soviet union. But this one is not a geographical name but the legendary exclamation of Archimed (Eureka). :)"

Ingemar


Post# 662607 , Reply# 63   2/26/2013 at 15:29 (2,473 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
ВЯТКА АВТ

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and a video of a later russian automatic produced on license.....



Post# 662611 , Reply# 64   2/26/2013 at 15:44 (2,473 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza)        

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Sandy
Thanks for the link

Those new Vyatka are almost the same of Hoovers sold here..... Hoover is of the Candy company.


Post# 662613 , Reply# 65   2/26/2013 at 15:56 (2,473 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

In 1970, the country still nebyli so equipped house that would connect many high-powered washing machines, except homes, where they were installed electric stoves. On that these washing machines are not bought and release them meaningless.Now many of the houses are hot and cold water from the stations, but there are still houses that serve only cold water, but the apartment is a gas boiler, which heats the water in my apartment is such.But the device does not allow the gas columns using the washing machine with hot water demand.

Post# 662615 , Reply# 66   2/26/2013 at 16:01 (2,473 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza)        

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Sorry to fill this thread with a machine not Russian  would you apologize, but since we were speaking about eastern countries and I mentioned Hajdu I could not avoid to share a funny thing I've just learned about the early Hajdu machines....

Well they were niothing but Indesit! This hajdu is nothing but an Indesit L5!

Then..... lookit has of course the typical Indesit spin drain





 

 




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Post# 662618 , Reply# 67   2/26/2013 at 16:11 (2,473 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza)        

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So you mean you cannot connect your machine because pipes coming from the heater does not reach the place where machine is located...did I understand correct Ivan?

 


Post# 662620 , Reply# 68   2/26/2013 at 16:14 (2,473 days old) by kenmoreguy89 (Valenza)        

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P.S

I've understand the power  problem now ....  average low wattage set up in homes....the manufacturer should have thought of it before though! What silly!

Thank you again for yet another explanation!

 


Post# 662673 , Reply# 69   2/26/2013 at 22:49 (2,472 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Our device instantaneous water heaters is that at low pressure needed to supply the washing machine, it will not turn on and also the use of the washing machine with heater requires additional work on security, because it runs on gas and combined with a washing machine can be a blast .Now you can easily install a washing machine, new houses have good electrical wiring, and in the homes of 1960-1980 years also put washing machines, despite the fact that there is an old wiring.Now with washing machines do not have any problems when you buy a washing machine you can order delivery and installation by a specialist who will come to do everything quickly and efficiently.

Post# 662729 , Reply# 70   2/27/2013 at 07:48 (2,472 days old) by danemodsandy (The Bramford, Apt. 7-E)        
Ivan:

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Have clothes dryers become commonplace in Russia, or just washing machines? As harsh as Russian winters can be, I hope that many people have a dryer so they do not have to go outdoors or hang laundry indoors!

Post# 662739 , Reply# 71   2/27/2013 at 09:05 (2,472 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

We dried clothes or in the bathroom, where there is usually a washing machine, or on the balcony. Those who live in the private sector, drying clothes in the house or on the street. Previously used for drying washing machines only with a centrifuge or buy individual centrifuges to spin.In late 1990, early 2000, we had common washing machine and dryer (Ariston - Marguerite, Kandu). Now these washing machines are very few Sell Now. I had a washing machine, it was very convenient to bake.

Post# 662968 , Reply# 72   2/28/2013 at 01:44 (2,471 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover Twintub

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Can you tell us what you think of this twintub and how the controls work? I love the colour, we only had white models here and the controls are similar to a Hoover wringer machine...

Post# 663023 , Reply# 73   2/28/2013 at 10:19 (2,471 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Сибирь-3

This washing machine "Siberia-3" idea for its creation was a "Hoover". This model was produced from 1960 to 1963. It cost 140 rubles. Difference of this washing machine from the other two-tank washing machines in that it has only one engine.Black handle on the top panel - minute wash. Large white button - STOP, when pressed engine shuts off when you open the cover of the centrifuge motor is also turned off.Washing machine washes clothes 2 kg in 37 liters of water. No heating. When the motor clockwise turns washing, when the motor rotates to the left - spin and drain. Switching to the discharge valve is opened, through which the water flows into the tank centrifuges, which is installed at the bottom of the pump.

Post# 663027 , Reply# 74   2/28/2013 at 10:52 (2,471 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Control board washing machine. If the two keys to lift up - WASH. Left button-down PLUMS down and right keys. If you omit only the right key - SPIN.White button STOP - stop the engine in any way. At position Clavey washing that would start the engine should set the black handle on the panel (1-6 minutes). To drain or spin time is not installed and must be switched off manually.

Post# 663051 , Reply# 75   2/28/2013 at 13:52 (2,471 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoovermatic

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Well Dr Mathew was right with the earlier explaination, belt driven off one motor, what an interesting set-up, rather like a Hoover wringer with the benefits of running the spinner and pump off the same motor,

The motors we had on ours run at around 1400rpm, so that would make this spin can the same speed?, it looked slower than ours as the force of the pump would have shot water all over the room..ha ha

Ivan any chance of a video showing the inside and the belts working please?

Cheers, Mike


Post# 663067 , Reply# 76   2/28/2013 at 14:47 (2,471 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Video can be, but not soon, now washing machines tucked away in storage. The engine speed is 1420 rpm, the activator - 520 rpm, centrifuge and pump - 1250 rpm.

Post# 663080 , Reply# 77   2/28/2013 at 15:55 (2,471 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Look at the size of those

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capacitors on the motor! Looks like to in parallel. Or one for the start and one for the run windings. Neat photos Ivan. So there is one pump only under the spinner and the wash tub drains into that as well as the spinner drains? So the pump runs only in spin or all the time?

Do the two  keys have 3 positions , down, middle, up?

 

 

 


Post# 663181 , Reply# 78   3/1/2013 at 00:26 (2,470 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Left key in position up - WASH in position down - plum. Right button at the top position-WASH in the down position - SPIN. When you press stop, the left button automatically goes up, right to stand in a neutral position.When the position - Plum, opens the valve on the pipe connecting the washing tank and a pump, the water flows into the pump and the water drains out of the washing machine. Pump impeller to the shaft wearing basket centrifuge and rotates with it. When there wringing, the drain valve from the wash tank is closed.While wringing the water runs down the walls of the tank and centrifuge populate the pump, pumped from the washing machine.

Post# 663188 , Reply# 79   3/1/2013 at 01:32 (2,470 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Конденса

Capacitors are connected in series to each other. They are designed to start the engine after the engine attains rated speed, a centrifugal switch, which is mounted on the shaft inside the engine, turn off the capacitors.

Post# 663193 , Reply# 80   3/1/2013 at 02:23 (2,470 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoovermatic

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So if I`ve got this right...

Left Hand Selector is the function for Wash = Up, Spin = Down

Right Hand Selector is for the Pump, Washtub Drain = Up, Spin Drain = Down


I see why you would need to have the capacitors as the motor is having to move a heavy load in the spin dryer, the standard wash motor from a twintub just would not be powerful enough...


Post# 663194 , Reply# 81   3/1/2013 at 02:24 (2,470 days old) by matchboxpaul (U.K)        

The Hoover derived twin tub looks lovely.
A very fetching shade of green and a shame that Hoover didn't branch out into world of different cabinet colours.

strange to see an early sixties twin tub, equipped with the single tub controls - radically changes the appearance and makes it look more modern.

Paul


Post# 663267 , Reply# 82   3/1/2013 at 12:36 (2,470 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

I find it hard to explain the way to manage this washing machine, I think that in the near future I will be able to make a video, and there will become visible. The difficulties of translation)This is the start capacitor, they are used to start the engine under load, that would not burn in the winding circuit jumper, put the Power factor correction capacitors.Once the engine reaches the nominal speed, and the current in the windings will 3.3A, cams centrifugal switch pushed the contact plate of switches installed on the engine cover. Current at startup is 11.5 A.

Post# 663740 , Reply# 83   3/4/2013 at 02:41 (2,467 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Washing

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Here is a picture from the Hoover wringer washer with similar controls, did you have this model in Russia?


Post# 663741 , Reply# 84   3/4/2013 at 02:42 (2,467 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover wringer washer

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Post# 663751 , Reply# 85   3/4/2013 at 04:10 (2,467 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Is that the heaterless model?

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if so then its the same one a neighbour gave to my Father a long time ago who was looking for a 2 way motor for his lathe.
The said motor was installed without too much ado and when you went in the shed to sharpen a knife it was wring for forward and wash for reverse and the control panel was mounted in front of the lathe at hip height so if you had to stop quick you leant on the stop button and to my knowledge it may still be working as we sold the lathe after Dad's demise to a friend who had young sons interested in wood turning. So even though the washer may be long gone some parts are still about :o)

Austin


Post# 663801 , Reply# 86   3/4/2013 at 12:46 (2,467 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Hoover wringer washer

Lovely washing machine! Produced in the USSR "Siberia-2" and "Tula-3" in the same design-driven squeezing rollers. But they produced very little. Now they almost did not survive, I have seen in my life, only 4 of the washing machine. Unfortunately while I was not able to get a washing machine in my collection (

Post# 663898 , Reply# 87   3/5/2013 at 01:48 (2,466 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Russian Hoover

Imagine the video with a washing machine "Siberia-3." It's not even video clips, and the whole film. Do not judge strictly for the duration of the film)

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Post# 663904 , Reply# 88   3/5/2013 at 02:37 (2,466 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
Thank you

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for sharing that video its interesting to see how similar in looks yet work so differently.
Was the machine earthed/grounded by way of the plug? I only noticed 2 prongs.

Austin


Post# 663911 , Reply# 89   3/5/2013 at 03:18 (2,466 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        
Thank you from me too

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And such a comprehensive video as well - we have been dying to see how this machine works and you have really given us the answer :)

Al


Post# 663916 , Reply# 90   3/5/2013 at 03:50 (2,466 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Thanks for the video Ivan

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 it was very clear to see how your machine worked. Was that towels you were washing?

 

Jon

 


Post# 663921 , Reply# 91   3/5/2013 at 05:18 (2,466 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoovermatic

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Many thanks Ivan, you clearly show us how to use the Russian Hoovermatic, I realise now you cant wash and spin at the same time, the controls appear very sturdy.

The motor clutch is unique to your washing machine,at least you had wonderful colour on your machines.

You do realise you are going to have to explain what type of automatic washer and dryer is visible in the pictures as well...Lol



Post# 663996 , Reply# 92   3/5/2013 at 13:49 (2,466 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Russian Hoover

Washing machine does not have the water heater, and all electrical parts are double-insulated from the housing on the washing machine connects to the network without earth and it is safe.Compared with Hover think Siberia-3 was slowly stirred things. This is due to the fact that I wore out blankets for exhibits. Their size as a sheet or blanket. The manual says that the big things should be washed on one piece. Automatic washing machine, as seen in the video - it's LG.This washing machine was purchased in 2006. It is equipped with a direct drive, which is mounted directly on the wall of the tank.

Post# 664364 , Reply# 93   3/7/2013 at 13:28 (2,464 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Siberia

In 1964 he released a washing machine "Siberia-3M", the video you've seen before, it produced up to 1968, and in 1972, began to produce an improved model of "Siberia-5". "Siberia-5" was smaller and two electric motors, which allows the simultaneous washing and spin.This washing machine is equipped with two-hour relay to wash and spin. To drain the engine mounted centrifugal pump, and the distribution of flows is set self-regulating valve.Washing machine handles 2 kg of dry clothes in 37 liters of water. Activator is spinning at 550 revolutions per minute, and centrifuge at a speed of 2800 revolutions per minute.

Post# 664366 , Reply# 94   3/7/2013 at 13:44 (2,464 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Siberia in longitudinal section

This is a drawing of the instructions, if you look on the washing machine in the back. 10-drive motor pulsator, 11-drive motor centrifuge, 12-pump, 13-pass valve, 14-threaded connector for connecting the drain hose.

Post# 664368 , Reply# 95   3/7/2013 at 14:12 (2,464 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

On the right side of the bottom is a niche for the network cables, and under it a threaded connection for the drain hose. In the washing tank installed removable bottom, which provides a form of washing tank, it's the fact that the tank, welded aluminum, is like a big bathtub, and in the middle welded wall separating it into two parts.

Post# 664369 , Reply# 96   3/7/2013 at 14:16 (2,464 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

removable bottom

Post# 664751 , Reply# 97   3/9/2013 at 16:33 (2,462 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Soviet washing machines

It's a pity that the subject was not in demand (((And I have a lot to tell.

Post# 664757 , Reply# 98   3/9/2013 at 17:07 (2,462 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        
Tell away

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Seriously Ivan, we WOULD like to know,

This has been a very interesting thread, telling us about machines that were previously unknown to us :)


Post# 664947 , Reply# 99   3/10/2013 at 17:07 (2,461 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Washing machines

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Hi Ivan, please dont get dis-hartened, there are many people reading this thread, you have over 1,700 views on it....although I must say a few more members asking questions and seeing how they interpret your washing machines would be useful but we will work with what we have.....and they will still be reading !!

Nice to see you have good reviews of the modern LG, are they dear to buy in terms of todays wages etc?

The Siberia twin tub looks interesting with its screw in drain hose, do I take it the spinning pulsator is at the front of the tub? and does the spin drier have a direct drive motor?



Post# 664966 , Reply# 100   3/10/2013 at 19:39 (2,461 days old) by SRSwirl ()        
I have to agree!

I agree, Ivan! Your thread has been fantastic and very educational. It's also been extremely interesting! Thank you. I'm sorry I haven't posted anything, but I tend to almost never post. I read every thread every day, though. I stay on the sidelines and learn from all of these terrific people. I have learned SO MUCH here. And, I have learned from you in this thread...so thank you for that. Please know that many of us are very interested in what you have to say and hope you will continue posting.

Michael


Post# 664997 , Reply# 101   3/10/2013 at 23:12 (2,460 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Thank you all for your interest in my work) Yes, Siberia-5 has a pulsator on the front of the washing tank. In the Soviet washing machine direct drive centrifugal except washing machines "Nistru".Although there are several models in the late 50's, where it was used belt drive centrifugal (Wave, Tula-4, Dawn, Dawn-2).On all washing machines for direct drive of the centrifuge, since 1967, used motor type TAO-C, on the majority of machines were easy to repair, as they were the same engines.

Post# 665015 , Reply# 102   3/11/2013 at 01:13 (2,460 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Automatic washing machines are available and are quite within 10.000-25.000 rubles, although there are expensive options, such as Mille, which costs 40.000-60.000 rubles. LG has cost 14,000 rubles, but remember, it was in 2006, now cost a washing machine 11.000-13.000 rubles.But there are LG, model F1495BDS7, which costs 45,000 rubles. Salaries of different people can be 15,000 rubles, and perhaps 100,000 rubles, depending on the work. The average salary is kept at 30,000 rubles. A good washing machine, a middle option, costs about 15,000 rubles, on the big problems with the acquisition of the washing machine does not arise.

Post# 665055 , Reply# 103   3/11/2013 at 08:28 (2,460 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Ivan great video

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if half a years salary is the cost of one washing machine for most people then do people buy them on credit and take time to pay them off? Or does the wife work out of the home and so a married couple would then bring in 60,000 rubles a year ?

 

 


Post# 665129 , Reply# 104   3/11/2013 at 15:01 (2,460 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

I said that the average salary is 30,000 rubles per month, not per year.This means that the salary of 50,000 rubles, you can afford to buy a washing machine for 15,000 rubles, and no great financial difficulties. People who get 15.000-30.000 rubles a month, or experiencing financial difficulties can use the credit, which can be processed at the store when it comes to buying home appliances.

Post# 665324 , Reply# 105   3/12/2013 at 06:08 (2,459 days old) by DaveTranter (Central England)        
Many, many followers

Ivan, your 'thread' has followers all over the world.....

I haven't posted anything yet, as I have nothing constructive to add, and do not wish to 'clutter' the thread with unimportant and / or uninformative posts..

Please keep up the Good Work.... :D :D

All best

Dave T


Post# 665338 , Reply# 106   3/12/2013 at 07:05 (2,459 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Thank you very much for the kind words addressed to me. Very nice to realize that my work is not in vain and to whom the interest and satisfaction.

Post# 665406 , Reply# 107   3/12/2013 at 14:10 (2,459 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Washing machine "Siberia-5" released until 1979, and since 1983, the factory began to produce an improved model "Siberia-6", which had a more advanced technical design."Siberia-6" washes laundry in two modes: 1-normal (cotton, linen), 2 - Gentle (synthetics, wool). Centrifuge stops faster as in a washing machine has a block of electronic engine braking centrifuge, which is activated after switching off the timer and open the lid.In addition, it was decided, due to which was abolished removable bottom.

Post# 665601 , Reply# 108   3/13/2013 at 14:02 (2,458 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
AEG Lavalux ЗВИ

Analog AEG washing machine, at least more similar in appearance, was a washing machine "Nistru", but washing tank it was the same as in "Siberia-3."Dimensions "Nistru" little more than the size of "ZVI", is seen in the photographs.

Post# 666400 , Reply# 109   3/17/2013 at 00:47 (2,454 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
ЗВИ

Washing machine "ZVI" video clip, the device details and work.

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Post# 666700 , Reply# 110   3/18/2013 at 05:37 (2,453 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Russian Twintubs

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Hi Ivan , does the Siberia 5 have a screw on empty hose of the back?, is that the outlet on the top back in the picture?

The ZVI is a much smaller washer than the AEG but looks just as sturdy...many thanks for the detailed video and showing us all the parts and actions.


Post# 666731 , Reply# 111   3/18/2013 at 08:18 (2,453 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Tell me again about the hose, but I do not understand the question.

Post# 666742 , Reply# 112   3/18/2013 at 10:07 (2,453 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
ivan

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I think Mike is asking if the drain hose on the back of the washer clamps on to the machine or does it screw on to the machine ?

 


Post# 666771 , Reply# 113   3/18/2013 at 13:29 (2,453 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

In Siberia-5 free end of the drain hose is inserted into the opening between the top of the lid. In Siberia-6, the drain hose is inserted into the free end of the rubber sleeve on the back. And in both cases the water is draining the washing tank.

Post# 667933 , Reply# 114   3/23/2013 at 15:28 (2,448 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
great thread

love this thread of soviet russian washing machines-very interesting as i am interested in soviet equipment-rare and exotic in the USA,i have a bunch of soviet radios and other electronics and even got a 1987 vaz 2107"lada" car-car had too much rust,so stripped for parts.Lada cars were sold in canada~1979-98,but not in the USA.

Post# 669036 , Reply# 115   3/29/2013 at 10:24 (2,442 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Small washing machine.

In the late 80's based on one of the foreign small washing machines (Euronews), was developed washer-dryer "Elite".Washer erases 2 kg of dry clothes, after washing, drain the water, wring your hands and putting clothes in the drum of 1 kg of dry clothes include drying (drying produced a stream of hot air).This washing machine is manufactured at the "GAS", at the same factory producing car VOLGA.

Post# 670995 , Reply# 116   4/7/2013 at 04:35 (2,433 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Video of a washing machine "Elite"

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Post# 671270 , Reply# 117   4/8/2013 at 02:42 (2,432 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        
Elite

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Ivan

Unfortunately that link does not appear to work

Al


Post# 671272 , Reply# 118   4/8/2013 at 02:48 (2,432 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Elite

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Works okay for me on mac...



Post# 671274 , Reply# 119   4/8/2013 at 02:53 (2,432 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Elite

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Great video, these where sold here and very popular for caravans etc, usually with a small Tefal lightweight spin dryer which much improved the dryer when required.

I like the little water gauge with which you could adjust the water levels, nifty design!!


Post# 671300 , Reply# 120   4/8/2013 at 07:49 (2,432 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I like the

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way it rocks back and forth on the table as its washing!!

 

 


Post# 671317 , Reply# 121   4/8/2013 at 09:48 (2,432 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Superb

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what a fantastic thread this has been, to see how Russia produced its own machines with all sorts of mechanical ingenuity is so uplifting, the Siberia would be one i would very much like to see in person.

Social history lesson for us over here in the west, i have only ever encountered a few Rigonda record players in my time and very well built they were almost to military standard.

Thankyou for bringing so much to this group Ivan i am humbled in some ways by your enthusiasm and efforts to preserve these lovely old machines

Gary


Post# 671400 , Reply# 122   4/8/2013 at 15:32 (2,432 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

In the Soviet Union produces several models of small washing machines, like a drum, and the type of activator.
The photo washing machine "fairy", the timer for 6 minutes, reversing the rotation of the activator, speed 300 rpm, erasing 1.5 kg of dry clothes in the 30 litas water. There is a special stand for washing machine to the bathroom.


Post# 671401 , Reply# 123   4/8/2013 at 15:37 (2,432 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

view large

Post# 671406 , Reply# 124   4/8/2013 at 15:52 (2,432 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

The blue color

Post# 671410 , Reply# 125   4/8/2013 at 15:59 (2,432 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

The improved "fairy-2", 2 kg of dry washes clothes, has a cover that can be used as a bowl.

Post# 671561 , Reply# 126   4/9/2013 at 09:42 (2,431 days old) by gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Au)        
BRTKA

The BRTKA (Vyatka) was sold in Australia too.

It was not a popular machine, I have seen only 2. (I owned one of them.)

They were sold as a "Lemair" brand, the original BRTKA control panel was there but it had a plastic overlay with a new control panel with "Lemair" brand stuck over the top. The Lemair controls had a more attractive script and a turquoise coloured stripe across the control panel.
On my machine the glue holding the Lemair control panel had failed, so the overlay fell off showing the BRTKA controls underneath.

Lemair has long been a cheap brand name in Australia, I think the name goes back to at least the 1950s and still exists today. Lemair is not a manufacturer, it is just a brand name attached to cheap imported appliances. When the Lemair front loader was sold here, they also had some Lemair fridges which were also sourced from the Soviet Union. They seemed solidly built and were reasonably popular, I still see them around for sale second hand occasionally.
When compulsory energy labelling was introduced in Australia, these USSR-sourced Lemair fridges disappeared, as they were not energy efficient and thus had very poor rating labels displayed.

When I got my Lemair (BRTKA) front loader, it had a failed thermostat. I replaced it and it worked well but it had very long cycle times - it used to take over three hours to do a load. I gave it to an uncle as he wanted a front loader to save water - he had tank water and his little Sanyo top loader was very wasteful.I advised him to put it on when he went to bed, the washing would be ready when he got up. Next time I visited, his Sanyo was back in the laundry and the Lemair banished to under the house. He said he couldn't stand waiting around for the long wash cycle of the Lemair.
Then the Lemair went to my sister, who lived at Alice Springs, in the desert in the centre of Australia.She wasn't bothered by the long cycles and appreciated it using so little water. It lasted several more years with her.

Thanks Ivan for sharing about your interesting machines. I hope you are interested to learn that the BRTKA washing machines were sold so far away, in Australia.


Post# 671741 , Reply# 127   4/10/2013 at 02:24 (2,430 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

I know that washing machines "Vyatka" released in Poland, but that they have exported to the capitalist countries and renamed it I did not know, is a very interesting fact :)

Post# 673763 , Reply# 128   4/18/2013 at 14:57 (2,422 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
ВСП

In the mid-50s in Leningrad developed vibrating washing device "VSP" for safe operation it is included in the network via a transformer, the voltage at which the device works is 24 volts.Inside the unit is installed coil, the armature current varies with frequency and transmits vibration rubber membrane, then the vibration transferred to the water.


Post# 683128 , Reply# 129   6/9/2013 at 01:45 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Early Soviet Hoover.

Hello everyone! Here's another one washing machine fell into my collection. This washing machine "Tula" (Tula - a city in Russia, where they make samovars).Washing machine released in 1959, was produced from 1958 to 1962. From 1956 to 1958, produced the same model, but the switch was in recess for the power cord.Washing machine washes 2 kg dry laundry in 38 liters of water. To drain the fluid has a drain pump that runs from the motor activator. The drain pump is a special lever on the right side of the body. To start the pump lever is lowered to lower down, to turn off - pick up.

Post# 683129 , Reply# 130   6/9/2013 at 01:47 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
"Tula" continued ....

The rear wall of the housing.

Post# 683130 , Reply# 131   6/9/2013 at 01:52 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
"Tula" continued ....

Niche for electric wire, in early models (1956-1958) was located here breaker for the motor.

Post# 683131 , Reply# 132   6/9/2013 at 01:54 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
"Tula"

Knob to move the machine.

Post# 683132 , Reply# 133   6/9/2013 at 01:56 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
"Tula" continued ....

On the right - the engine switch. Left - the switch of the pump.

Post# 683133 , Reply# 134   6/9/2013 at 01:59 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
"Tula" continued ....

Washing machine in an assembled state.

Post# 683134 , Reply# 135   6/9/2013 at 02:00 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
"Tula" continued ....

Washing machine inside.

Post# 683135 , Reply# 136   6/9/2013 at 02:02 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
"Tula" continued ....

Washing machine during operation.

Post# 683144 , Reply# 137   6/9/2013 at 04:42 (2,370 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        
Single Tub

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Ivan

Thank you for sharing another great washing machine with us :)

This seems to be based on the Hoover single tub washing machine which was first produced here in 1953. This was an update of the earlier 0307, produced here first in 1948 although based on pre-war US design. It was also later produced with a heater, and also power wringer (see Mike's picture above in the thread) and also no wringer at all - in fact this machine continued in production, more ore less unchanged, until the mid 1980s.

For non heater, hand wringer versions, there were no switches on it at all, and no control for the pump - it remains engaged at all times, the hose being stoppered by the left hand position of the hose

Al


Post# 683145 , Reply# 138   6/9/2013 at 04:43 (2,370 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        
Single tub 2

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Post# 683146 , Reply# 139   6/9/2013 at 04:44 (2,370 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        
Single tub

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Post# 683147 , Reply# 140   6/9/2013 at 04:53 (2,370 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        
Single tub

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Could I ask you please to take a picture of the inside of the machine with the back off, particularly near the bottom so we can see how the pump engages with the motor

Thanks again

Al


Post# 683149 , Reply# 141   6/9/2013 at 05:08 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
"Hoover", "Tula", "Wave"

Hi, Al. In the Soviet Union produced a washing machine "WAVE", he looked the same, but she did not have the switch engine and switch the pump.Start the machine by turning it into the socket - it was a requirement of security. But soon were able to solve the problem by applying a system of double insulation, which allowed to operate washing machines without grounding.Constantly running pump generates excess noise and quickly used up, it caused the decision to use the pump switch. In connection with this washer "Tula" improved compared with a washing machine "Wave"

Post# 683151 , Reply# 142   6/9/2013 at 05:45 (2,370 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        
Single tub

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Thank you for posting the pictures above. I understand the problem with no switch on the washing machine - in this country it is almost (not quite!) universal that our power outlets have a switch on them, so it is not so much a problem for us.

You might like to watch this video, which was produced for the earlier model of Hoover washer



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Post# 683153 , Reply# 143   6/9/2013 at 05:55 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Yes, I saw this video about 3 months ago, I liked it, I was ecstatic. The idea is great with the switch.

Post# 683157 , Reply# 144   6/9/2013 at 06:14 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
"Tula" device.

It looked like the original

Post# 683158 , Reply# 145   6/9/2013 at 06:16 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
"Tula" device.

chassis

Post# 683159 , Reply# 146   6/9/2013 at 06:18 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
"Tula" device.

switch

Post# 683160 , Reply# 147   6/9/2013 at 06:20 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
"Tula" device.

stop the pump

Post# 683164 , Reply# 148   6/9/2013 at 07:01 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Imagine a link to the video clip with a washing machine "Tula"

CLICK HERE TO GO TO mechanic2laundr's LINK


Post# 683166 , Reply# 149   6/9/2013 at 07:06 (2,370 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        
Single tub

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Thank you again for more pictures.

It looks very similar to ours, apart from the mechanism to dis-engage them pump - a simple solution. Here is seems we let the customer deal with the problem of the pump rather than add the additional cost to the building of the machine.

Al


Post# 683172 , Reply# 150   6/9/2013 at 07:20 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

This is the link on YouTube

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Post# 683179 , Reply# 151   6/9/2013 at 07:29 (2,370 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

I would like to see more of your device Hoover, pictured. If possible please.

Post# 683963 , Reply# 152   6/15/2013 at 07:19 (2,364 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

:( :( :(

Post# 683973 , Reply# 153   6/15/2013 at 10:12 (2,364 days old) by vacbear58 (Sutton In Ashfield & London UK)        
Hoover Device

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Ivan

I have not forgotten, just waiting for a chance to make a film for you to see - I would need to do this out of doors, and it is raining here today :(

Al



Post# 683975 , Reply# 154   6/15/2013 at 10:42 (2,364 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

:)))

Post# 684046 , Reply# 155   6/16/2013 at 03:50 (2,363 days old) by fido ()        

Thanks for all the interesting and informative posts, Ivan. Yesterday I was talking to a Financial Times journalist who was telling me he recently visited the Gorenje factory in Slovenia for a piece he was writing. Were Gorenje machines also sold in Russia?

Post# 684048 , Reply# 156   6/16/2013 at 05:10 (2,363 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
From Slovenia to Russia ....

In Russia washing machines come from Slovenia. Now in stores is about 40 models (WS 510 SYW, Simplicity WA 610 SYW, ONE WS 623 W, WT 63110, W 6843 L / S, WT 63130, WS 512 SYB, WT 63090, and others). The cost of washing machines in the range 14.000-21.000 rubles (430-650 dollars).

Post# 684052 , Reply# 157   6/16/2013 at 05:49 (2,363 days old) by fido ()        

Thanks Ivan but I was meaning, were they available there in the USSR days?

Post# 684053 , Reply# 158   6/16/2013 at 06:48 (2,363 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Direct delivery was not possible to have brought those who have been to Slovenia on business trips. Brought in for personal use. Such cases I know, because in my collection is American fridge from a trip that brought a military engineer of the plant, but it was way back in 1938))))

Post# 690304 , Reply# 159   7/18/2013 at 17:15 (2,331 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
"Husqvarna" - "Riga-55"

Who knows something about washing machine "Husqvarna" I will be very grateful. In 1955, after the exhibition of the Swedish household appliances in Moscow, at the "REZ" began to produce washing machines "Riga-55." The prototype of the "Riga-55" served "Husqvarna".

Post# 690307 , Reply# 160   7/18/2013 at 17:22 (2,331 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
"Riga-55"

"Riga-55" - washing machine is very famous throughout the Soviet Union. Washers "Riga" produced from 1956 to 1992 and was vypusheno of over 6 million pieces!

Post# 691303 , Reply# 161   7/23/2013 at 00:02 (2,326 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Haha, neither Hoover nor Husqvarna how boring ((((

Post# 691605 , Reply# 162   7/24/2013 at 13:06 (2,325 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands)        

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I don't know much about Husqvarna, but they have a museum and you can contact them. Here's the website to the museum.

www.husqvarnamuseum.se/home.aspx...


Husqvarna is no longer an independent brand, IIRC the brand name now belongs to Electrolux.


Post# 691855 , Reply# 163   7/25/2013 at 09:20 (2,324 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Many thanks for the link. I wrote a letter today to the museum "Husqvarna". I hope the representatives of the museum will work with me and will assist in obtaining the information.Although because of political views, not all foreign museums are willing to cooperate, such as the National Museum of Latvia, where the washing machine produced "Riga-55" did not want to talk to me and rudely denied me.

Post# 693797 , Reply# 164   8/2/2013 at 16:55 (2,316 days old) by 48bencix (Sacramento CA)        
This has been fun

Thank you for the information and videos. I really enjoyed this thread, and I know many others have looked at it but may have not commented.

Keep posting.


Post# 706133 , Reply# 165   9/29/2013 at 15:58 (2,258 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Washing machine Hoover-0307 help!

I got a washing machine Hover 0307. No engine and the side wall of the housing. Can someone help with the photos internals washing machine? Where in the body is the power cord? Thanks in advance.

Post# 706261 , Reply# 166   9/30/2013 at 05:23 (2,257 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover 0307 Wringer Washer

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Good morning Ivan, another good find, this was Hoovers first washing machine and its the simplest of designs, no switch heater or pump, just a motor which plugs into a wall socket, very neat in design tall and slim..


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Post# 706263 , Reply# 167   9/30/2013 at 05:27 (2,257 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover 0307 Wringer Washer

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Inside is an aluminium tub with the famous Hoover Pulsator, first models had a metal pulsator later ones had the bakelite / plastic.. the outlet pipe appears so small that it would take ages to empty, but its very quick due to the large amount of pressure against the small outlet..

Post# 706266 , Reply# 168   9/30/2013 at 05:35 (2,257 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Underneath

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Its a simple solid chassis to which the motor is attached, a pulley and belt attaches to the pulsator drive.

Post# 706268 , Reply# 169   9/30/2013 at 05:46 (2,257 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover 0307 Wringer Washer

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Heres the internal scan..

Post# 706269 , Reply# 170   9/30/2013 at 05:48 (2,257 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover 0307 Wringer Washer

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And tub schematic, hope this helps!!

Post# 706281 , Reply# 171   9/30/2013 at 06:42 (2,257 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Oh, that's very good data, thank you very much! I will try to restore 0307.

Post# 706388 , Reply# 172   9/30/2013 at 17:04 (2,257 days old) by anthony (uk)        
hello Ivan

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love those russian washingmachines after seeing Vacbears advert i thought you might find this interesting its the toy version of the Hoover single tub that is pictured in Vacbears advert its almost identical to the real thing

Post# 706390 , Reply# 173   9/30/2013 at 17:08 (2,257 days old) by anthony (uk)        
inside

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tiny little pulsator activated by the handle on the back when filled with water it produces exactly the same boiling action as the full size machine its about 50 years old now but still working

Post# 706391 , Reply# 174   9/30/2013 at 17:09 (2,257 days old) by anthony (uk)        
side view

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the handle with the hoover logo

Post# 706392 , Reply# 175   9/30/2013 at 17:11 (2,257 days old) by anthony (uk)        
back view

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you can see the crank handle and the small rubber hose for emptying

Post# 706559 , Reply# 176   10/1/2013 at 11:09 (2,256 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Yes, I saw a video on YouTube with a washing machine, very cool! I wish I could buy such a toy, but in Russia are not for sale. Ebey also do not for sale (((

Post# 706786 , Reply# 177   10/2/2013 at 14:19 (2,255 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
0307

Here's what my long-suffering 0307.

Post# 706789 , Reply# 178   10/2/2013 at 14:26 (2,255 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Very big loss - side wall missing.The engine is also lost, and rolls for hard-pressed linen cracked.

Post# 706792 , Reply# 179   10/2/2013 at 14:32 (2,255 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

And what year the washing machine in the Post # 706261 what her serial number? I suspect that somewhere in my 0307 model year 1952-1953, here is the nameplate.

Post# 706801 , Reply# 180   10/2/2013 at 15:26 (2,255 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hoover Dating

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It would be December 1952 for your machine Ivan...
I see what u mean, the cabinet would be easy to paint, the motor could be adapted, pity about the panel missing with the badge on!!


Post# 707019 , Reply# 181   10/3/2013 at 15:39 (2,254 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Thank you very much for the information! I thought, as I, along with a washing machine got Electrolux refrigerator, 1953.I apologize that I do not write on the topic. Very beautiful and interesting fridge!

Post# 707021 , Reply# 182   10/3/2013 at 15:41 (2,254 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

View from the open door.

Post# 707022 , Reply# 183   10/3/2013 at 15:43 (2,254 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

The peculiarity of this refrigerator, it can handle not only electricity, but also on kerosene. In the USSR in the 40s was analog, which runs on gas.

Post# 707094 , Reply# 184   10/3/2013 at 21:17 (2,254 days old) by matthewbrodie ()        
WOW!

That is a great Fridge.. Overall a great thread. Also neat to see things we are not accustomed to. It's interesting to me to see so many different types of machine that all do the same thing. Just what was available regionally was different.

Post# 707136 , Reply# 185   10/4/2013 at 04:47 (2,253 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Electrolux

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Not thats what you call a versatile fridge, as a child it perplexed me why my grandad always checked the gas fridge to see if the pilot light was working, I just couldnt compute how a flame could cool a fridge!!

What are the two tubes sat on the middle shelf Ivan?


Post# 707211 , Reply# 186   10/4/2013 at 13:14 (2,253 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

On the shelf are two heater, 110 and 220 volts. The heater tube inserted in the ammonia vapor generator and contribute to the chemical reaction. If the refrigerator is powered by kerosene - that the heater is removed from the generator and the generator is heated by combustion of the burner and refrigerator ohlozhdaet. Fridge does not have a compressor. Refrigerator is completely silent.

Post# 707329 , Reply# 187   10/5/2013 at 01:29 (2,252 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

I really wonder how the net fork 40-60s in England. Which fork in Hoover 0307? How are the grounding-type plug? Can someone help?

Post# 710014 , Reply# 188   10/18/2013 at 17:17 (2,239 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Did no one has the original electrical plugs for what would make the photo?

Post# 724497 , Reply# 189   1/2/2014 at 10:22 (2,163 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
New Year's gift.

I got an absolutely wonderful motor from a washing machine "Ural-2" 1966 release.

Post# 724498 , Reply# 190   1/2/2014 at 10:23 (2,163 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
New Year's gift.

I got an absolutely wonderful motor from a washing machine "Ural-2" 1966 release.

Post# 724500 , Reply# 191   1/2/2014 at 10:27 (2,163 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Should put the impeller and the pulley on one side, and the free end of the shaft to saw off the engine will look like on the engine Hover 0307.

Post# 724509 , Reply# 192   1/2/2014 at 11:14 (2,163 days old) by ozzie908 (Lincoln UK)        
If I remember correctly...

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thats the exact same motor used in the old Hoover Single Tub washers without mechanical wringers the belt ran on the small pulley and the pump ran on the outside of the silver wheel I believe these were also used in some of the older tumble driers all made by Hoover of course.

 

Is this one made in Russia or has it been imported?

 

Happy new year to you :o)

 

Austin


Post# 724511 , Reply# 193   1/2/2014 at 11:32 (2,163 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Engine Hoover ....

Thank you for your congratulations! Happy New Year everyone! Health and good luck to you!
These engines are used in washing machines "Tula" and "Ural", which were produced in the USSR with such engines from 1956 to 1966. And washing machines and engines produced in the USSR.
Washing Machine "Tula" 1959 is shown above in the message # 683128.


Post# 726980 , Reply# 194   1/11/2014 at 13:53 (2,154 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Little effort and the motor turned ....

Shortened shaft from the back side. Drilled a hole in the fan shaft and fastened together with a pulley.

Post# 726981 , Reply# 195   1/11/2014 at 13:56 (2,154 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Parsing engine

Post# 726982 , Reply# 196   1/11/2014 at 14:00 (2,154 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
wire Replacement

olden

Post# 726984 , Reply# 197   1/11/2014 at 14:02 (2,154 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

process

Post# 726985 , Reply# 198   1/11/2014 at 14:06 (2,154 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

new

Post# 726992 , Reply# 199   1/11/2014 at 15:21 (2,154 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
motor

great restoration of the motor-I was wondering what type of motor it was,your good pictures answered that question:it is "shaded pole"type-that is why it has such a large fan in addition to propeller blade spokes of the pump drive wheel-shaded pole motors run hotter than other types,more airflow needed for cooling.

Post# 727136 , Reply# 200   1/12/2014 at 06:35 (2,153 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Yes, indeed, these motors are rapidly heated and require intensive cooling. But their advantage - ease of fabrication design.Besides heating has another flaw - bearing bushing wear and backlash appears and the motor starts to make noise.In 1963, in the washing machine "Tula" began to use the engine with roller bearings, these engines are larger and heavier, but more reliable.In all washing machines with an activator on the side wall of the tank of the type used to motors 1967.

Post# 727219 , Reply# 201   1/12/2014 at 15:01 (2,153 days old) by DaveTranter (Central England)        
Ivan

Are you enquiring in Reply#187 (post 707329) about British mains electrical plugs and sockets? I have examples of most types from that era, and will post photographs. The commonest 'grounded' types (round-pin, 3-pin) can still be obtained from professional suppliers, in 5 Amp and 15 Amp ratings.

Many thanks to all involved for this fascinating thread!!!

All best

Dave T


Post# 727495 , Reply# 202   1/13/2014 at 16:31 (2,152 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

, I'm interested to see how looked plugs and sockets of those years. My Electrolux fridge and washing machine and Hoover 0307 does not feature the original plug. Still very interesting to see in detail the socket with the switch, I saw a commercial for Hoover 0307.

Post# 730432 , Reply# 203   1/25/2014 at 15:31 (2,140 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        
Bendix B, 1937, help to decipher the dial

Hello! Help me decipher actions Bendix washing machine model B, 1937. As I understand the layout is as follows: "off" - "Pre-wash" - stop "off", then you must turn the hand again. "Washing" 20 minutes or less, then automatically switches to "rinse". How many times rinses happening? on the dial line is interrupted. What does this mean? After should automatically switch to the "spin" and "off." I am very grateful for all the help.

Post# 849106 , Reply# 204   11/1/2015 at 12:40 (1,495 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Hello everybody!!!
Last week I bought a washing machine, which was looking for a lot of years - "Kharkiv" USM-1, 1958. It is an analogue of "Thor". He was brought from Odessa, Ukraine. I had never delivered the big things so far)))


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Post# 849118 , Reply# 205   11/1/2015 at 15:54 (1,495 days old) by cfz2882 (Belle Fourche,SD)        
nice!!

great find-does look close to the American version :)Looks like a big project ahead-but will be a real rare gem when restoration complete :)

Post# 849201 , Reply# 206   11/1/2015 at 22:56 (1,494 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!)        

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Hadn't heard from you in a while, glad to see you posting again. I love the green tubs in this washer - so pretty.

Post# 849221 , Reply# 207   11/2/2015 at 06:10 (1,494 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Yes Ivan

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nice to see you posting again. That is a great find. I have to agree with Gansky that green tub is cool.

looks like it has a window in the lid too. Did this machine also convert over to a dishwasher like the Thor does?


Post# 849268 , Reply# 208   11/2/2015 at 12:06 (1,494 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Earlier, I was just reading about this the washing machine and never even saw her pictures. When I happened to see an advertisement for the sale, I just put a lot of effort and $ 500, to purchase and deliver the washing machine))))
This washing machine only washed and spun. Used as a dish washer, it can not. The switch has three positions: spin-stop washing.
These washing machines began to produce in Kharkiv, Ukrainian SSR in 1956 on "KhEMZ" (Kharkov Electrical Engineering Plant named after Stalin). I heard that the first version would do the dishes.
This washing machine is released April 30, 1958 and worked until 2004. The former owner told me that he bought a new washing machine in 2004, and KhEMZ put on the street.
When she came to me, I immediately switched it to the network, and it earned from the first second, and this after 11 years of inactivity on the street!
But time has had an effect. Housing rusted and must be painted. There is no cover rubber rim. Inside, everything is very well preserved, as it was covered with a layer of dust with oil - is a very good preservative.
The trouble is that the pump is worn - it rotted because dirt and water in which it was left. At the outlet of the pump fall, collapse and jammed inside the shaft, due to which transmissions was erased.
Even wear of the seal and the hub on the main shaft and the gear in the water gets. When I disassembled the gearbox, I was terrified)))) After I cleaned, I found a great deterioration of the worm and worm wheel.
Later I'll try to disassemble the shaft and pull it completely out of the gearbox housing, then it will be possible to replace the bushing and oil seal and assemble gear again.
The pump will have to make new ....
It seems to me that the THOR same problem with gear like me. The gearbox is necessary to disassemble and clean, filled with clean engine oil.


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Post# 849322 , Reply# 209   11/2/2015 at 17:11 (1,494 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
Wow

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looks like water got into the transmission but it doesn't look like too much damage was done. It should work well now that you have new oil in there.

 

 


Post# 849323 , Reply# 210   11/2/2015 at 17:17 (1,494 days old) by Stricklybojack (San Diego, CA)        

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!!!!!!
Nice work, you're fearless!


Post# 849458 , Reply# 211   11/3/2015 at 05:42 (1,493 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Thor Automagic

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Hello Ivan, great to hear from you and that you have another vintage washing machine, we found a similar machine a few years ago which needed a few renovations....here is the link to the previous thread!

The tub looks fantastic in the colour shade of green, have never seen that before!!



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Post# 849484 , Reply# 212   11/3/2015 at 09:42 (1,493 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Yes, I saw the theme of the TXOP. There's a photo gear all coated with oil, the oil may have been displaced from the gearbox. Under the rubber membrane that you make a new, on the cylinder has a special screw. This is necessary to unscrew the screw immediately after unpacking and installation of the washing machine.From this opening the oil will flow to the floor if the gear unit will receive water from the pump and via a central shaft.
This I read in the instructions to the washing machine. But when they bought that car, nobody twisted the screw and this no one could understand that the water gets in gear. The pump is jammed by the fact that the shaft is rusty and could not rotate. By this, I conclude that the water was coming from the pump.
The central shaft is very large swings in the sleeve shaft (which puts the tank) there is worn seal. By this water enters the gearbox through this gap.


Post# 849560 , Reply# 213   11/3/2015 at 15:30 (1,493 days old) by Keymatic (Surrey.U.K)        

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Hi Ivan...nice machine liking the green tub, I have a black / speckled one & a blue tub but never seen a green one !!
Your diagosis sounds right, a leaky pump will push water back into the gearbox via the impeller drive shaft, this would push oil up and out of the breather screw over time.
Having worked on a few of these, I have a good understanding of them. I have had a quick look at the service manual too.
Hope you can get it running!!
Keith


Post# 849683 , Reply# 214   11/4/2015 at 04:30 (1,492 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Automagic

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Great to see the inside of the gearbox and drive workings and that under all that gunky mess of oil and water there is the shiny metal,keep up the good work and look forward to seeing the back together machine!!

We needed a new boot seal and managed to create a replacement tub seal from a Hoover washing machine sump hose, yogurt can and retainer strips which works fine!!


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Post# 849768 , Reply# 215   11/4/2015 at 16:20 (1,492 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
wow Mike

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thats pretty darn clever !!

 


Post# 849771 , Reply# 216   11/4/2015 at 16:39 (1,492 days old) by moparwash (Pittsburgh,PA -Next Wash-In June 2020!)        

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Here is what gets washed in a Soviet washing machine!

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Post# 850135 , Reply# 217   11/6/2015 at 14:12 (1,490 days old) by Whirlpolf ()        
Did you notice?

1. copy cats may work both ways ;-)
2. see this very interesting museum, the have many of the models shown here.


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Post# 850275 , Reply# 218   11/7/2015 at 07:31 (1,489 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
I love that Wendy's commercial

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it was hysterical when it came out and is still funny.

 

The Soviets might not have had a lot of choice in clothing but they sure had choice in washing machines- thanks to Ivan for showing us !

 


Post# 850298 , Reply# 219   11/7/2015 at 11:34 (1,489 days old) by Keymatic (Surrey.U.K)        

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Fancy agitator / spiralator !!!
Keith


Post# 850356 , Reply# 220   11/7/2015 at 20:09 (1,489 days old) by dartman (Portland Oregon)        
Wendys commercial

The people responsible for the commercial decided they better show it to the head Soviet Ambassador figuring he'd be really offended and they were sweating bullets waiting for him to freak out.
He ended up laughing his ass off and thought it was great. I remember it too and thought it was hilarious then, and its still funny today.
Too bad they don't make em like that anymore.


Post# 850455 , Reply# 221   11/8/2015 at 12:12 (1,488 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

Such an activator is very beautiful sprays water when it is filled with little in the washing tub.

Post# 850468 , Reply# 222   11/8/2015 at 13:16 (1,488 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers)        
THEY

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look like they are made out of porcelain ? Or are they white plastic?


Post# 850477 , Reply# 223   11/8/2015 at 14:29 (1,488 days old) by mechanic2laundr ()        

This activator is made of porcelain. On the shaft it is screwed onto the nut that is inserted into a mold for casting in the production of the activator.

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