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Post# 664276   3/6/2013 at 18:42 (2,143 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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Hey Guys

Well for a while now since moving house, I have had one available spot in my garage that I could hook up one more washing machine easily to water and the drain. The question has been for a long time, which machine shall it be?

I know I wanted something a bit older, automatic, I was thinking a front loader as I can only hook up to cold water so had to be one that heated its water.

Scouring Gumtree i found a few older Bosch's, Asko's and Hoovers but all sadly out of my price range.

Then one day a couple of weeks ago I came across the winning machine. A great condition Miele Novotronic W918 that came in at the top end of my price range. I emailed the seller and picked it up two days later :-)

Heres a pic.





Post# 664277 , Reply# 1   3/6/2013 at 18:45 (2,143 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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The sellers were a wonderful elderly German couple who were very quick to tell me this machine cost over $3000 when new so I should be sure to take good care of it. They said they only had ran it at Delicate 30 for many years now so hadn't been too abused.

The control dial has been Australianised I think by adding in the Hot Warm Cold descriptors, maybe to make it a bit simpler for people living in the age where top loaders were king and front loaders were a strange thing that australians were a bit wary of.


Post# 664278 , Reply# 2   3/6/2013 at 18:51 (2,143 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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Selecting Rapid Wash you get the cycle taken down to between 32 and 50 mins depending on temperature. Still gives a thorough wash and deep rinses. As with new Miele machines there are additional options available by quickly pushing the Power and Water Plus buttons 4 times in quick motion and then using the Spin Starch Drain Seperate Rinse sections to 'toggle' through different additional options such as 'additional rinse in Rapid Wash' and 'High Water Level Rinse in Cottons'.

The one issue I have identified with the machine is slightly rumbly bearings, nothing too drastic but very definately going to need a replacement on them. I may save some cash and get the machine serviced by a Miele technician just to ensure everything is as it should be.



Post# 664279 , Reply# 3   3/6/2013 at 18:54 (2,143 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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In summary its a great machine I love the selection you have in temperatures and programs and options. The 1600 spin is the fastest spin on an automatic I have owned so all very exciting. The deep rinses are brilliant too, everything comes out so fresh!

I hope it lives for many years to come!

Thanks

Matt


Post# 664302 , Reply# 4   3/7/2013 at 01:02 (2,143 days old) by washer111 ()        
1600rpm?

What!? Our 4 month old Miele only does 1400rpm :-( Not happy Jan! 

Then again, we usually don't spin that fast. As a rule I rarely spin faster than 800rpm for clothes (Preferring 800rpm for lights/brights on Automatic Plus or Cottons and 1200rpm for Darks on Darks/Denims and 600rpm for underwear/socks, 400-600rpm for towels and 1400rpm for bed linens - Very OCD!)

 

But enough about me, thats a VERY NICE Miele you have there. I like the blend of old and new on this, although the cycle sequence indicator really clutters stuff up, IMO. 

Did you find any of those "cursed" exploding LG's from the 90's? Those have horridly long cycles, apparently (3hrs + for a "Normal" cycle. We had one at a Bed/Breakfast. Horrid little ba****d), Miele's are much better in that regard, and get everything done so quick, so gently and so easy. 

 

Does this one have a Honeycomb drum at all, or just the "regular" one?

 


Post# 664306 , Reply# 5   3/7/2013 at 01:38 (2,143 days old) by whirlcool (Just North Of Houston, Texas)        

Look at all that water in there!

Post# 664316 , Reply# 6   3/7/2013 at 05:34 (2,143 days old) by Frigilux (The Minnesota Prairie)        

Where, oh where, has our Launderess gone? Oh where, oh where can she be?

Post# 664317 , Reply# 7   3/7/2013 at 05:44 (2,143 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
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Fabulous W918 there Matty.

Post# 664330 , Reply# 8   3/7/2013 at 08:22 (2,143 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        
Congratulations!

Your 918 looks like my W1918 which has hot and cold fill. I love my 1918, but it is not my only machine just like this is not your only machine. It's nice to be able to spread the work around and nice not to have to wait on the long cycle if you have more than one load. On mine, if you select Rapid Wash, you do not get as many rinses and they sort of caution that it is for small loads. I read some test somewhere that said the 1600 spin left the load with 44% residual water, the dryest, at that time, that any washer extracted. There is a definite difference between the drying time needed for identical loads done in the W1918 and those done in the W1986 which has a top spin speed of 1200 rpm. I hope that you will be as happy with yours as I am with mine. You made a great find.

Post# 664331 , Reply# 9   3/7/2013 at 08:27 (2,143 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Immer Besser

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Congratulations Matty, looks in good nic and nows the chance to get your spares ordered and get instructions from many here who have similar...

Those towels will soon dry @ 1600rpm

Happy Washing, Mike


Post# 664334 , Reply# 10   3/7/2013 at 08:33 (2,143 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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Thanks Guys

I love it. I have the Regular drum, this was a series or two before Honeycomb I believe.

I have the Rapid wash set up with three deep rinses. There is only a very brief pulse spin for the interim spin but then you have a full length final spin which helps things come out well rinsed and very clean.


Post# 664350 , Reply# 11   3/7/2013 at 10:33 (2,143 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, the Netherlands)        

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Congratulations! That's a nice Miele! I love that Rapid Wash button, my older Miele has a short button, but it only takes ten minutes or so off from the main wash. Fortunately I have other washers. ;-)

I assume you downloaded the manual? Or did one come with the machine? Don't you love the flexibility with the programmable options? I bet you're using maximum amounts of water! lol

Louis


Post# 664361 , Reply# 12   3/7/2013 at 12:43 (2,143 days old) by aegokocarat (Cearphily county South Wales)        

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Lovely looking machine :)
Mieles seem to run in our family as my gran recently took purchase of a miele back in February :)
hope you have lots of use out of yours :) they perform far better than any other brand we have come across (well, mum says my samsung ecobubble is almost as good as the miele)
again, happy washing :)
Tom :)


Post# 664389 , Reply# 13   3/7/2013 at 16:51 (2,142 days old) by miele_ge (Danbury, Connecticut)        
"Where, oh where, has our Launderess gone? Oh where, oh

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I was wondering the same thing.... also Hunter is gone too.... 

 

we have a slightly newer US version of that machine.... you will LOVE IT!!

 

Ours is about 12 years old and going strong.

 

 


Post# 664725 , Reply# 14   3/9/2013 at 15:09 (2,140 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

Hunter still answers email and is still just as outraged at the state of the country as always so I would say he is just the same. Neither he nor his wife are having any new health problems, which is a good thing.

Post# 664836 , Reply# 15   3/10/2013 at 04:07 (2,140 days old) by Philip0603 ()        

I have the updated fully electronic vertion of this machine, the W377 at the time it was the top of the range washer and I have it stacked with the matching T260 dryer and stack kit with pullout shelf. I paid about £1800 for the pair, but do not expect to replace them anytime soon. I love the 1600 spin, especially in winter when I have to use the dryer. Typically it takes a little over 30 mins for a load of cottons ready for ironing. My partner, for some reason, likes ironing. Also it weighs the load and adjusts the programme time according to load and was one of the first machines to have a fuzzy logic wash programme. The washer works out the fabric type and how dirty it is, then adjusts time and drum action accordingly.

Matty, once you get the bearings done, then the machine will run forever. Strongly suspect the reason they have gone is because the previous owner has not run the washer up to full speed often. Miele's have bearings as good as those on a Mercedes and, trust me in this, you need to give them a good thrashing every now and them. (Mercedes & Miele's that is)

Great machine, now just find the matching dryer. Miele made two, one with the sloping panel for mounting to the side of the machine and one with a vertical for mounting above the machine.


Post# 664840 , Reply# 16   3/10/2013 at 04:18 (2,140 days old) by washer111 ()        
Question:

Does that timer knob control a timer, (i.e. Rapid Advancing), or does it just control the cycle and temperature selection? 

 

Adding to Phillip0603's post, I would assume that running cold washes will have impacted the bearings on this machine quite a bit too. In Australia, there is quite the "obsession" with washing in cold water (Whether or not your water is solar or gas heated) - which as we've all seen either don't produce the most sanitary results and can cause rumbly bearings. But I agree - giving the thing a run up to full speed every so often probably gives the whole sensory array a neat little work out - and should help it run smoothly for quite some time yet. 


Post# 664853 , Reply# 17   3/10/2013 at 07:07 (2,140 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

My W1986 has what I guess is fuzzy logic. When started out in a cottons program, it will display maximum time, but if the load is so small that it only requires the initial fill to saturate the load and achieve the proper water level, it drops 10 minutes off the wash time. Likewise, if it cannot achieve the full speed in the spin after the wash, it recalculates the time and adds a rinse which flushes away the excess suds or remedies the unbalanced condition. Wonderful machines. The W1918 does not have to worry about that with all of the deep rinses and slower speed spins it does between water changes.

No, the cycle selector dial does not move, but the countdown timer and cycle lights let you know the progress of the cycle.

Miele was brilliant to keep the same drum diameter and just increase the depth to add capacity because the narrower drum diameter avoids the distribution problems that can happen with larger diameter drums.


Post# 666129 , Reply# 18   3/15/2013 at 19:53 (2,134 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Bit Late To The Party, But Welcome To The "Older" Mi

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Very well done indeed!

Have been toying with the idea of nabbing a 1918 similar Miele, even missed a shot at a nib unit several months ago. Quite honestly though at this stage in my laundry game/collecting am looking for something with more capacity than Big Bertha (Miele w1070 - 5kg ). The W1926 or W1930 may fit the bill but something would have to go in order to make room.

Regarding the grumbling bearings; there are as many views as to why this plagues Miele 1918 series as there are grains of sand. If you recall a member from Canada went to hell and back with his unit over a bearing failure and finally gave up the ghost.

For some the 1918/918 series were the ne plus ultra of Miele domestic washer design. Easy enough to use with set features, but one could program additional and or improvise work arounds. As Miele went to the 1926, 1930, 1986 (using North American numbers) more and more became computer/fuzzy logic controlled up to and including market dependent "dumbed down" controls.

Some say it is because some sort of "inferior" metal was used, others blame excessive use of the max 1600rpm final spin speed. Who can say? What is telling is that after the 19XX series Miele never again ventured that high for final spin speeds that one can tell. Around 1400 seems to be the highest modern Miele's will go, but haven't seen all offerings from round the world.

Water usage: yes,like the 10XX series before them the 918/1918 used plenty of water to get the job done. However overall water usage was reduced IIRC because the latter does spins after rinses versus the 10XX that had one short spin after the third and a full after the fourth.


Post# 666168 , Reply# 19   3/16/2013 at 00:01 (2,134 days old) by ronhic (Canberra, Australia)        
Could be a North American thing

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50% of the Miele washers for sale currently in Oz have spin speeds at 1600rpm.

Post# 666231 , Reply# 20   3/16/2013 at 09:57 (2,134 days old) by drhardee ( Columbia, SC)        
Anyone in the Miele 19XX club

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like yours truly with a W1930 will always benefit from a repair manual. I so happen to have a PDF version of such a thing if anyone needs to borrow one.

Post# 666393 , Reply# 21   3/16/2013 at 23:24 (2,133 days old) by jerrod6 (United States of America)        
in the 19xx club

YES. I have a W1986 and would like to get a copy of this manual. Mine has had one repair in the 10 years I've had it- was the replacement of the cold water fill valves two years ago. I want to keep this 220V machine as long as I can, not interested in any of the newer models of any brand.

My 1986 only spins to 1200 on Max spin speed but I rarely ever use that speed anymore. I don't see that much difference between high and Max as far as moisture removal so High speed which I guess is 1000 is a far as I go and if this lower spin speed improves the longevity of my machine---that's even better---I keep doin it.


Post# 666464 , Reply# 22   3/17/2013 at 12:25 (2,133 days old) by bosch2460 (Harrisonburg, VA)        
the 19xx club

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I have the 1966. I would love to have to a copy of that, too, if at all possible.

Post# 667331 , Reply# 23   3/20/2013 at 19:35 (2,129 days old) by grahamW ()        
Bearings

Busy with a young family and haven't been around much lately. See the url below for a description of what is involved in repairing the main bearing.

Backstorey: I picked up the machine as a 'spare parts' machine for $50 as I needed a new door seal and always wanted a delay timer in my W1903 washer. I decided to tear it down for fun to see if a main bearing failure could be repaired. IMHO, if the main bearing is failing, you may want to start looking for a replacement machine. The bearing kits can be found on ebay.co.uk, but the shaft wear and rust I observed on the spyder suggest that any repair would probably be short-lived. When I contacted Miele Canada about replacing the spider + shaft seal, they noted that the stainless inner/outer drum assembly was sold as a unit ;)

In the end, I broke it down for parts as I had intended. The timing circuit and electronics served as an upgrade to my W1903 and I have two boxes of spares should anything break.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO grahamW's LINK


Post# 668218 , Reply# 24   3/25/2013 at 02:30 (2,125 days old) by freshlinen (south africa)        
miele w1918

dear matty i own a W925 (FROM NETHERLANDS W9245) in south africa.
i must buya new electronic module in order for me to use the delay start etc etc
currently the unit is working on a module from an older w......series range.

it works ok.my final spin is 1450rpm and its is great.please let me know more of your unit.?


Post# 1015829 , Reply# 25   11/26/2018 at 06:39 by cmpmal (Melbourne)        
Is it still going well?

I have the opportunity to buy a 2nd hand W918 tomorrow and I'm just wondering if it's still worth getting?

Kindest regards.

cmpmal (aka Malcolm)


Post# 1015856 , Reply# 26   11/26/2018 at 12:30 by bewitched (Italy)        

Miele w918 was my second Miele machine and it was fabulous. I miss it and I hope the guy i gave it still has it. It had many things other machines only dreamed of like the auto levelling feet. It allowed to skip parts of the cycle just turning the knob on stop and then replacing the knob on the last position. I changed it for a w377 i still have. It has a brushless motor and it is very quiet. Then i got a w487, the first miele with honeycomb drum. it reached 1800 rpm and also had a brushless motor. wonderful and life lasting machines.




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