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Thread Number: 64341
/ Tag: Vintage Automatic Washers
Out with the OLD! And in with the NEW== People !! |
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Post# 869407 2/27/2016 at 13:00 (2,981 days old) by jetcone  (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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 Out out damned spot! Its time for an upgrade !!!
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Post# 869408 , Reply# 1 2/27/2016 at 13:01 (2,981 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Out goes the 1960 GE FF- its way behind the times! Incoming !!!!! The new, the improved , the better 1961 GE FF !! | ||
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Post# 869409 , Reply# 2 2/27/2016 at 13:07 (2,981 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Super shot When I first saw this machine being delivered to our neighbor Nancy Smith I remember seeing it uncrated on the walkway in the sun.
Then when I first saw it turned on in the basement- I about fell over! I had never seen nor imagined a whole lighted panel before !! I could barely enjoy our 1956 GE anymore- that time had passed!!
When I saw it lit up I had a big dream that night at 6 years old- I dreamt I went to the moon and found out that the silver light of the moon on all the mountains was caused by it being illuminated by 1961 GE white light washer backsplashes, we just couldn't see the backsplashes from Earth because they were too tiny!
This is what it looked like in my dream:
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Post# 869410 , Reply# 3 2/27/2016 at 13:09 (2,981 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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GE Solid Bakelite washing gets the clothes GE clean !!
This is the machine I got from John that Jeff, Jason & I rebuilt in 5 hours!! For some odd reason it is the quietest FF I have EVER heard !!!
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Post# 869411 , Reply# 4 2/27/2016 at 13:14 (2,981 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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After several uses I saw something that really caught my eye! A GE trick of style -- see if you can spot it between the two pictures ::
Happy Hunting !! I know of no other machine that does this. | ||
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Post# 869417 , Reply# 5 2/27/2016 at 13:58 (2,981 days old) by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.) |
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Post# 869422 , Reply# 6 2/27/2016 at 14:05 (2,981 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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XACTLY | ||
| Post# 869427 , Reply# 7 2/27/2016 at 14:15 (2,981 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest) | ||
Oh well, I guess that clunky old 1960 will be going to a junkyard, maybe some farmers field in the middle of , I don't know, South Dakota or something. But it doesn't matter because- THE NEW 1961's ARE IN STOCK AND READY FOR DELIVERY ! Consult your Yellow Pages directory and have your operator put you in touch with your local GE dealer TODAY ! Deals like this won't last long.
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Post# 869430 , Reply# 8 2/27/2016 at 14:28 (2,981 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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Ahem, | ||
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Post# 869431 , Reply# 9 2/27/2016 at 14:32 (2,981 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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Well done! | ||
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Post# 869432 , Reply# 10 2/27/2016 at 14:33 (2,981 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 869442 , Reply# 11 2/27/2016 at 15:32 (2,981 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Thanks Louis Great pitch there DelaneyMeegan perfect !!
Ken the bleach dispenser was a B&)*tard to rebuild but it is working and probably one of the only ones in the club working .
A word of caution on how they break. As I discovered and Greg explained to me bleach dries into salt. But when you have a gallon of bleach in there and it dries it dries into huge 1/2 inch crystals. These jam the pump and lever and if you force the pump lever you will puncture the thin styrene plastic these are made of. Soak for days in water before doing anything to it!! The whole bottom of mine was covered edge to edge in salt crystals. | ||
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Post# 869444 , Reply# 12 2/27/2016 at 15:49 (2,981 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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It was such a struggle to get that dispenser out and into the machine. I didn't take many pics but here are some:
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| Post# 869447 , Reply# 13 2/27/2016 at 15:53 (2,981 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK) | ||
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Post# 869449 , Reply# 14 2/27/2016 at 15:55 (2,981 days old) by foraloysius (Leeuwarden, Friesland, the Netherlands) |
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Post# 869481 , Reply# 15 2/27/2016 at 19:33 (2,980 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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aHAHAHAHA | ||
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Post# 869486 , Reply# 16 2/27/2016 at 20:23 (2,980 days old) by oldskool (Kansas City, MO) |
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So Cool. Such inspiration. Congratulations John | ||
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Post# 869489 , Reply# 17 2/27/2016 at 21:59 (2,980 days old) by washerlover (The Big Island, Hawai’i) |
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Post# 869499 , Reply# 18 2/27/2016 at 22:35 (2,980 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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Interesting stuff | ||
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Post# 869505 , Reply# 19 2/27/2016 at 23:16 (2,980 days old) by ovrphil (N.Atlanta / Georgia ) |
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1961! Gradient colors and a panel of sunlight(the dark 10 month recession of 1960-61 didn't dim these lights). :-)
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Post# 869508 , Reply# 20 2/28/2016 at 01:43 (2,980 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Ken I found the red stuff to be invaluable for old rubber - some rubbers it won't bond to but they are few. The filter flume I tried at first to use super glue and it all peeled off the next day. This red stuff is handy, because this machine is a 'weeping wanda', she had weeps in every hose !! So I've used it liberally and now not a drop weeps out.
Its made by Permatex and carried in auto parts stores. Permeated makes very useful stuff.
How did Max Headroom just fade away?? He was everywhere. CLICK HERE TO GO TO jetcone's LINK | ||
| Post# 869525 , Reply# 21 2/28/2016 at 06:03 (2,980 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Post# 869535 , Reply# 22 2/28/2016 at 07:39 (2,980 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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Aferim! I have the same bleach dispenser for the previous year's model and I think it is very cool. I wish I could figure out how to reconfigure/rededicate it to store and dispense fabric softener in the rinse. I've followed John LeFever's warning and I don't store Chlorine bleach in there; I load it when I want to use it and at one point I stored liquid peroxide bleach in it. I do hope you are successful in getting its mate.
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| Post# 869567 , Reply# 23 2/28/2016 at 12:17 (2,980 days old) by mrb627 (Buford, GA) | ||
Switch - Far Left | ||
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Post# 869569 , Reply# 24 2/28/2016 at 12:50 (2,980 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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That's the COLD WASH option dial; when it's set on WASH you get cold water for the wash and the rinse. There was on the previous year's TOL a toggleswitch located underneath the control panel that gave the user COLD, AUTOMATIC and WARM rinse choices, but I don't think that carried over to 1961. | ||
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Post# 869598 , Reply# 25 2/28/2016 at 15:55 (2,980 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Yes it all goes cold on the cold | ||
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Post# 869730 , Reply# 27 2/29/2016 at 07:04 (2,979 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Yes Bud | ||
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Post# 869786 , Reply# 28 2/29/2016 at 14:07 (2,979 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Post# 869797 , Reply# 29 2/29/2016 at 15:26 (2,979 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Saw this
I saw this while checking craigslist. Thought yoou might be interested.
John CLICK HERE TO GO TO jakins's LINK on Rochester Craigslist | ||
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Post# 869802 , Reply# 30 2/29/2016 at 16:09 (2,979 days old) by RevvinKevin (Tinseltown - Shakey Town - La-La Land) |
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Bad Link | ||
| Post# 869807 , Reply# 31 2/29/2016 at 16:22 (2,979 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK) | ||
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Post# 869808 , Reply# 32 2/29/2016 at 16:24 (2,979 days old) by jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.) |
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Lets try this again | ||
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Post# 869816 , Reply# 33 2/29/2016 at 16:52 (2,979 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Hi John | ||
| Post# 869819 , Reply# 34 2/29/2016 at 17:02 (2,979 days old) by Stricklybojack (South Hams Devon UK) | ||
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What pray tell does the "Air Freshener" switch do?
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Post# 869925 , Reply# 35 3/1/2016 at 07:08 (2,978 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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I don't know | ||
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Post# 869928 , Reply# 36 3/1/2016 at 07:29 (2,978 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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GE Air Freshener button Ken will know for sure but I think they were small aerosol metal bottles that sprayed out a squirt of goodness. Probably to cover up the smell of the cigarette you were holding while starting the dryer ;-)
IIRC, if you pull the toggle out, the small canister was inserted into the panel (?) It's been a long time since I saw one.
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Post# 869945 , Reply# 37 3/1/2016 at 09:16 (2,978 days old) by swestoyz (Cedar Falls, IA) |
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Post# 870014 , Reply# 38 3/1/2016 at 17:55 (2,978 days old) by mayfan69 (Brisbane Queensland Australia) |
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Quite gorgeaus! | ||
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Post# 870114 , Reply# 39 3/2/2016 at 10:50 (2,977 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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Air Freshener feature It's a curious little gimcrack: there is indeed a small pressurized canister-ette of air freshener that gets squirted directly into the body of the backsplash when the user presses the KEY (GE's term for those over-sized white plastic toggles) downward. Purely by aerodynamics, the chemical gets sucked downwards through the hollow pedestals into the dryer's air stream to do its job. In the 1957 model there was a little pan behind the switch that held a solid tablet like the ones they still sell for some vacuum cleaners. In that model there was a flexible rubber tube that conducted the juice to the dryer drum. 
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| Post# 870117 , Reply# 41 3/2/2016 at 11:26 (2,977 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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I found this, www.automaticwasher.org/cgi-bin/T... | ||
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Post# 870119 , Reply# 42 3/2/2016 at 12:20 (2,977 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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The bleach is added to the wash water via a tube at the beginning of the last 5 minutes of the WASH period. Once you've pumped the bleach from the reservoir into the dispenser there's no way to stop it (without disassembling the machine and the instructions for dealing with the bleach dispenser are long and complicated, they even included special tools for it attached to the inside of the masonite panel on the back of the machine); whatever is in the the dispenser will be added to the wash water. You can hear the solenoid click at the 5 minute mark. For some reason GE changed from this reservoir design to what they called a timed "one shot" design in the middle of the 1962 model year. The two machines pictured below are the same vintage, but you can see in the second picture, the lever and the gauge are missing; the user simply measured the right amount of bleach for that particular load into the dispenser and it was added at the 5 minute mark. The second model down from the TOL usually had what GE called a bleach "funnel" under the lid that looked like a conventional dispenser port for a top loader. | ||
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Post# 870134 , Reply# 43 3/2/2016 at 16:22 (2,977 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Ken, that later one looks to be identical to the one mounted on the Combos? Is it? Is that a '63-'64 model? It also looks like they reinstalled the larger older control dial compared to the machine I have??
Yes I found out that bleach once opened goes to salt water within in a month, if its not sealed all the time. This dispenser is open to the air all the time. And I bet housewives weren't going through a gallon a month. So that pretty much would have made it useless.
Also I bet this dispenser was expensive to make and install in the factory. And they already had one the combos. Why not use that one?
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| Post# 870153 , Reply# 44 3/2/2016 at 18:58 (2,976 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest) | ||
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Bleach dispenser
They probably would have been better off leaving a suction hose out so people could put it into their own bottle of bleach. Then the pump could have simply sucked up the right amount of bleach and when the bottle became empty, there wouldn't have been any chamber in the machine to get gunked up.
We need to get in the Appliance time machine, and go back to help the engineers realize, it could have been better. Oh well. | ||
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Post# 870184 , Reply# 45 3/2/2016 at 20:14 (2,976 days old) by bajaespuma (Connecticut) |
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Oh, pshaw. Jon, both of those were 1962 models; the first one was a prototype from the beginning of the model year and was a WA-1050W, the second one is from the end of the model year and belongs to a member here. It has a slightly different model number because of the new-style bleach dispenser. Otherwise, they're identical machines. Your 1050-V is likely from the early side of 1961 production because later on in the year, they added a small "V-12" badge to the panel. Your beautiful combo is either from 1963 (if there's an "X" suffix, or it's from 1964 (or even 1965 maybe); that dark gray panel lasted for a while).
In our household, that fancy-schmancy bleach dispenser would have worked just fine. For a family of 4+, our Filter-Flo saw at least 8 loads a week and easily half of them were bleached loads. I don't know how long it would have lasted given that even without a bleach dispenser the sides of the cabinet were pretty rusty by the end of 16 years, but both the washer and the dryer were still working when we left. GE tried a reservoir dishwasher detergent dispenser many years later on some of it's TOL dishwashers and that was short-lived as well. You would think GE would have a decent learning curve. And now they want to be the Queens of software. Oy. | ||
| Post# 870222 , Reply# 46 3/3/2016 at 00:33 (2,976 days old) by alr2903 (TN) | ||
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Bajaspuma, Thank You for your response. A | ||
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Post# 870289 , Reply# 47 3/3/2016 at 09:18 (2,976 days old) by jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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Here ya go | ||
| Post# 870301 , Reply# 48 3/3/2016 at 11:19 (2,976 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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| Post# 870302 , Reply# 49 3/3/2016 at 11:22 (2,976 days old) by delaneymeegan (Midwest) | ||
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From the ladies magazines I frequently read, I'm told this new 1961 model gets the clothes 300% cleaner than that old 1960 model. All I can say is I'm sold. I need to get a New 1961 GE Filter-Flo washer ASAP.
Hey-y-y, wait a minute. That drain line doesn't look like an authentic black-rubber-with-metal-coil-on-outside hose ! What's going on here ? | ||
| Post# 870330 , Reply# 50 3/3/2016 at 14:45 (2,976 days old) by toploader55 (Massachusetts Sand Bar, Cape Cod) | ||
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Post# 870333 , Reply# 51 3/3/2016 at 15:02 (2,976 days old) by gansky1 (Omaha, The Home of the TV Dinner!) |
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Post# 870430 , Reply# 52 3/4/2016 at 07:41 (2,975 days old) by Jetcone (Schenectady-Home of Calrods,Monitor Tops,Toroid Transformers) |
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| Post# 871494 , Reply# 53 3/9/2016 at 09:55 (2,970 days old) by geextrarinse (Hudson Valley, New York ) | ||
BEAUTIFUL!!! | ||
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