Thread Number: 89932
/ Tag: Modern Automatic Washers
Steel Outer Tubs? |
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Post# 1145413   3/28/2022 at 19:29 (1,027 days old) by IIIJohnnyMacIII (North Carolina)   |   | |
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Post# 1145420 , Reply# 1   3/28/2022 at 21:45 (1,027 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Not all Miele washers have metal outer tubs, good number are made from GlaronK.
www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/fo... www.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/help/176-... www.krix-technik.de/glaronk-miel... |
Post# 1145428 , Reply# 2   3/29/2022 at 02:32 (1,026 days old) by Logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Swiss manufacturer Schulthess also uses stainless tubs. They make residential and commercial laundry equipment like Miele.
CLICK HERE TO GO TO Logixx's LINK
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Post# 1145432 , Reply# 3   3/29/2022 at 07:00 (1,026 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Speed Queen uses SS for all their outer tubs on their FL washers.
I have thought several times lately that it would be interesting to compare the amount of plastic used in a SQ FL or TL washer for that matter compared to other manufactures.
Between SQ using real cast iron for their counterbalance weights and SS outer tub and an all steel base plate compared to many other companies plastic parts a very % of a SQ FL washer will be easily recyclable and the machine is also much less of a fire hazard in the home is something goes terribly wrong.
It would be interesting to require appliance makers to state the %s of metal to plastic etc in their new appliances.
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Post# 1145436 , Reply# 4   3/29/2022 at 08:52 (1,026 days old) by IIIJohnnyMacIII (North Carolina)   |   | |
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Thanks Launderess. That's some good info on those 7 kg Miele machines. I see the US only has 4 models (all 8 kg). I was surprised to see all the models available in Europe (including 9 kg!).
After doing some more research, I'm very intrigued by the Asko Logic series and the European machines in general. Hot water that is actually hot at 140 degrees and extra hot water at 190 degrees! |
Post# 1145478 , Reply# 7   3/29/2022 at 16:44 (1,026 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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I can’t imagine the temperature of the bearings has much to do with their life.
I have felt the bearings on frontload washers they barely are warm to the touch after a heavy spin cycle.
The type of bearings used in a front load washer can be used in automotive engines etc. that easily run at 200 or more degrees and it’s still not much of a factor in their failure.
On front load washers with a plastic outer tub there is generally a huge cast-iron piece of metal that is cast into the plastic which would easily dissipate any heat buildup to begin with anyway.
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Post# 1145510 , Reply# 8   3/29/2022 at 21:21 (1,026 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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"Hot water that is actually hot at 140 degrees and extra hot water at 190 degrees!"
Keep in mind majority of washing machines sold in Europe today are cold fill only. Armed with powerful 208v-240v heaters these washers are more than capable of heating water to hot or boiling in short period of time. This even though some wash cycles run for ages... That being said don't always believe such machines always reach and or hold target temps. Good number of both European consumer testing services and consumers themselves have posted often washers do not reach set temp, and or don't bother engaging thermostat once target temp has been reached, even if during course of long wash cycle things drop. www.automaticwasher.org/c... |
Post# 1145520 , Reply# 9   3/29/2022 at 22:11 (1,026 days old) by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)   |   | |
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Miele seems to sell those 9K washers all over UK, Europe, Commonwealth countries and elsewhere, except North America.
www.realhomes.com/us/buyi... www.currys.co.uk/products/miele-... North Americans who want a Miele washer larger than 8kg, only have the Little Giant machines as next up. www.designerappliances.co... |
Post# 1145576 , Reply# 12   3/30/2022 at 18:17 (1,025 days old) by moon1234 (Wisconsin)   |   | |
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Electrolux also has steel outer drums, but from what I can see that is mostly on the commerical side of things. ?t=160 |
Post# 1145592 , Reply# 13   3/31/2022 at 03:52 (1,024 days old) by Logixx (Germany)   |   | |
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Post# 1145631 , Reply# 14   3/31/2022 at 23:38 (1,024 days old) by mielerod69 (Australia)   |   | |
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Post# 1145658 , Reply# 17   4/1/2022 at 14:43 (1,023 days old) by IIIJohnnyMacIII (North Carolina)   |   | |
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Post# 1145662 , Reply# 18   4/1/2022 at 16:55 (1,023 days old) by henene4 (Heidenheim a.d. Brenz (Germany))   |   | |
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Post# 1145664 , Reply# 19   4/1/2022 at 17:31 (1,023 days old) by mielerod69 (Australia)   |   | |
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Thanks for checking. I have a friend who has the old WT 8/5 with the 64 liter drum and the depth of the machine is 714 mm. If they left the same drum for 9/6, I think it’s too small to dry a 6kg load. The old 7/4 kg WT used the 59 litre drum. Bosch use a 70 litre drum for their 10/6 kg washer dryers
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Post# 1145694 , Reply# 20   4/2/2022 at 05:00 (1,022 days old) by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)   |   | |
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Post# 1146293 , Reply# 21   4/11/2022 at 14:43 (1,013 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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I remember a few years ago when I took the front off of my Maytag washer to replace the pump. I hadn't seen the insides of one of these machines since I was very young working at an appliance store while I was attending school. I thought to myself that everything looks about the same as it did way back then. The motor was a little smaller, the Polly pump was slightly different and it had that same warning sticker on the outer tub that said that the spinning power unit could smudge your lipstick. Everything looked pretty much the same except when I took a closer look at the outer tub. I noticed it was plastic. It was interesting that it was the same color as the old porcelain steel outer tubs used to be. I thought it was unusual that Maytag (pre-Whirlpool) would go to the trouble of using this color of plastic instead of the usual stuff that looks like giant Tupperwear. |
Post# 1146789 , Reply# 23   4/17/2022 at 15:16 (1,007 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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When I first took the front off of the machine I was fooled, but only for a few minutes.
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Post# 1146791 , Reply# 24   4/17/2022 at 16:03 (1,007 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)   |   | |
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Maytag did this on purpose as they desperately tried to get Maytag dealers to accept these cheaper to build Norge washers as a good machine, strange if they were so good they did not make it in to the coin-op side of things.
These machines and about a dozen other things Maytag management ruined a highly successful and profitable company in just over 15 years.
John L. |
Post# 1146874 , Reply# 25   4/18/2022 at 12:55 (1,006 days old) by twintubdexter (Palm Springs)   |   | |
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That plastic outer tub Maytag/Norge/whatever is still working fine after 20 years. The only thing I have done is replaced the pig-stuck-in-a-fence squealing pump and the belt. And yes, the two new Speed Queens I bought two years ago are still in my garage covered up with a blanket. I'm beginning to think it is doubtful they will ever make the 12 foot trip into the laundry room. The Speed Queens aren't the only things I have purchased new but have never used like big screen TV's and audio equipment. The older I get the less energy I have and the more money I waste. Lily Tomlin, in one of her comedy skits as an"impulse shopper", would say " I would buy fresh bread and day-old bread the same day I was just not using good sense". That's me.
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