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Post# 1156715   8/12/2022 at 09:16 by Turbowash (USA)        

Hello, I need help.
We moved to the new house, getting ready to renovate the laundry room. The best washer for the space would be LG washtower.
I left LG FL (8years old) in my old house. Itís in perfect working condition and it had water levels tweaked a little. I want to do the same on the LG washtower, but is it possible to reach the water level valve in this model ? If not, Iíll choose something else, but I have high hopes itís possible.

Thanks 😊


Post# 1156718 , Reply# 1   8/12/2022 at 10:00 by eronie (Flushing Michigan)        

Yes you can but you have to take the dryer off the top!

Post# 1156722 , Reply# 2   8/12/2022 at 11:08 by littlegreeny (Milwaukee, WI)        

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From what I've seen, the water levels on the wash tower are excellent. It would be completely unnecessary to manually raise them.

Post# 1156725 , Reply# 3   8/12/2022 at 12:01 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
LG Wash Tower

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Is attractive, however I would also consider the Speed Queen Stack, it is much better built and easier to service if something goes wrong.

 

The WL can be adjusted on the SQ through Dip-Switches on the control board however after having my almost 2 YO SQ FL machine I have not seen the need.

 

John L.


Post# 1156726 , Reply# 4   8/12/2022 at 12:06 by Turbowash (USA)        

Speed queen FL has smaller capacity, but unit itself is even bigger. LG tower takes less space and has the capacity I need. Iím just wondering if my husband and I will be able to lift the dryer off for the water level adjustment.

Post# 1156728 , Reply# 5   8/12/2022 at 12:24 by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
lg washtower performance

How does it perform on the normal cycle on bo the washer and dryer?

Post# 1156730 , Reply# 6   8/12/2022 at 12:43 by appnut (TX)        

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Brigita I have had the LG WM4200 since last November and have pretty mich learned everything about it. What cycles and settings do you usually use? Once you tell me what your wash habits are, I can give you a better idea as to how the new one is as opposed to your old LG. I"m curious with regards to wash water temperwatures and cycles you usually use.

Post# 1156737 , Reply# 7   8/12/2022 at 14:24 by Turbowash (USA)        

Appnut, do you know if itís possible to reach water level valve ?
I use different settings for different types of clothing and fabrics. My okd lg gad turbowash and steam. I also had one custom setting on it I made for my kids to use.
I mostly use warm or hot. Cold for some delicates ir hand wash . Water level adjustment was very minor, I was still able to open the door and add items if needed. But that tiny adjustment stopped growth of dirt film on the window. Itís simply never happened again after adjustment. And I never had smelly towels again.
My new house has Samsung fl very basic washer, itís newer model, ip to two years old. Dryer is old and has controls on the top, it has to go. I want to replace them with lg washtower, but only if water level adjustment is possible.


Post# 1156768 , Reply# 8   8/12/2022 at 19:48 by appnut (TX)        

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I got some of my informationn from a former member who is about as OCD on certain things regarding laundry. First of all, I RARELY use the Normal cycle. Because it's the Energy Star rated cycle, it has further dumbed down temperatures than the rest. Warm is 86F and Hot is 95F. Also, Normal and Heavy Duty cycles don't use the onboard heater to maintain water temperature unless you select extra hot. Towels, Bedding, Whites, and Perm Press do use the heater to riase water temperature to the specified temperature targets if needed. For those cycles, warm is 90F and hot is 112F. Heavy Duty has those target temps too, but like I said, the heater doesn't come on to riase or maintain once water level has been satisfied. If you use the Allergene cycle (steam is default on for Allergene) or select the steam option for Whites, Bedding, Heavy Duty, and Normal, ability to select any soil level is removed and the cyle is locked into a specified wash period length. Target temp when steam is selected is 160F-162F. Steam option also does not allow a prewash option. Target temp for Sanitary is 158F. Sanitary cycle does allow soil level selection and that will vary the length of wash time and thus water heating phase. I use the downloaded Denim cycle only for extra hot setting. There is no difference between hot or warm wash water temperature for denim, which is 86F. 112F for hot water is pathetic as far as I am concerned, but I don't necessarily need hot going up to 158F, so the denim cycle allows me some flexibiity of lower hot wash water temps beteen 130F & 145F due to the wider range of wash soil level times which allows more variation of wash and heating time. My go to cycle is Perm Press. It has a decent amount of water and a reasonable 90F warm & 112F hot. Also, if you pour 4 or 5 cups of water in the tub before you add laundry, that tricks the machine into thinking it's a large, heavy load and that results in water fills being higher for both wash and rinses. Also, the rinses will be double the time length and final spins will be longer. I always select an additional rinse for each load. For towels, jeans, and anything I add more detergent due to soil level, I select the maximum number of additional rinses. I really like my machine, I just despise the paltry dumbed down tempeartures. Sometimes 90F warm for Perm Press cycle isn't good enough for shifting stains. I let it wash with heaviest soil for about 10 minutes on warm and then pause and select hot water temp and normal soil level and resume cycle. Then by the end of the wash phase, the temperature is increased to between 100F & 104F, which is in the good old days was considered warm water. Washers from the 1950s & 1960s that had a "medium" wash water temperature was 120F. So, 112F is pathetic to me. And back then, hot was what ever your water heater teperature was. I use Tide with Oxi liquid and it's ok. Will be glad to get back to my Tide with Bleach powder.

Post# 1156771 , Reply# 9   8/12/2022 at 20:49 by Turbowash (USA)        

I did whites load in my current Samsung and I was surprised the water was hot ( I chose the hottest possible). This washer has single glass window, so I can feel the temperature when touching the glass. Then I used another cycle with warm water and it was truly warm when I touched the glass. I begin liking this simple Samsung washer ( we tweaked water level on it too), but itís too bug for the laundry room space. LG washtower would be perfect for the space .
I donít like long cycles. Up to 1h is ok, but over that itís too much for me.


Post# 1156776 , Reply# 10   8/12/2022 at 21:09 by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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That LG WashTower is one unitized system. There is no way to take the dryer off the top of the washer. You should not have to even touch the water level and the water level is adaptive to the load. If you use TurboWash, and I do for every load, the washer is uses plenty of water for washing and rinsing. Also Keep in mind that if you are vertically challenged that the LG tower is a good option where as the SQ stack being pushed by some people you will have a problem getting to the back of the SQ dryer to retrieve your laundry. And the SQ does not heat the water nor does it maintain water temps. Plus it lacks the capacity that the LG washer has. For the money I would go with the LG. Plus if you are internet savvy it can connect to the ThinQ app and you can keep track on load status it will also alert you when the load is finished in unit to be transferred to the dryer and will alert again when the dryer is done. There is a reason why LG appliances are very well rated and many people are very happy with them.

Post# 1156779 , Reply# 11   8/12/2022 at 21:46 by Turbowash (USA)        

Iím not even considering SQ, itís too big and too expensive.
As I mentioned I used LG FL turbowash for 8 years and loved it only after I tweaked the water. If I canít tweak the water I will not buy it. Factory pre set level is not enough for my needs. I donít care about the warranty either.
I saw video on YouTube, it is possible to separate dryer from the washer. I just need to know if water valve is easy to reach or not.


Post# 1156782 , Reply# 12   8/12/2022 at 22:33 by Turbowash (USA)        

Hereís tweaked water level on my current Samsung. Itís just a bit more than factory setting, but it makes a difference.

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Post# 1156783 , Reply# 13   8/12/2022 at 22:34 by lakewebsterkid (Dayton, Ohio)        
WashTower

Use the Towels cycle on the app. You can permanently download the cycle to the machine via the app. It uses a great water level, and performs 3 normal rinses with strong interim spins.

Post# 1156784 , Reply# 14   8/12/2022 at 22:36 by DADoES (TX,†U.S. of A.)        

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I just need to know if water valve is easy to reach or not.
The water valve (water inlet solenoids) assembly is unlikely to be part of water level sensing.† Fill level is via a pressure sensor.† Many designs nowadays have it as a digital, electronic transducer integral (soldered) to the machine control board, no adjustment screws.† I haven't looked at the parts design and layout of the LG WashTower units.† You can search the specific model number of interest to find parts diagrams for determining the components.


Post# 1156785 , Reply# 15   8/12/2022 at 22:59 by henene4 (Emden (Germany))        
Wow, so much plain wrong info

Ok, where do I begin...

To answer your main question: There is an adjustment screw indicated on the pressure switch parts diagram.
That doesn't mean you can adjust it, just that there is one. Just that you might be abled to.
Just be aware that most main stream appliance brands now use digital pressure switches so adjustment can be way more finicky.

So even if you decide against it just because of that adjustment issue I just don't see what else you would be choosing over it?



I do agree you will probably NOT have to do that.

The redone TurboWash with the new pumps and jets has improved in certain regards.

Even if you wanna do that, if you go with the WashTower, adjusting it will be a nightmare.
You CAN take the dryer off the washer for shipping and installation.
BUT running test cycles without the dryer on the washer will probably not be possible.
Means you will have to take the dryer off, remove the washer cover, adjust the screw, remount everything just to run a test cycle just to see if you need another quarter turn or so.
That will get old REALLY fast.



Another issue with the WashTower IMO: Once your washer reaches its end of life - which will be WAY before the dryer - both will have to be scrapped TOGETHER no matter what.
Buying a separate washer and dryer and just stacking them will be way more flexible in the future.

Or imagine you'll move in a few years: a separate washer and dryer can be set up side by side or stacked.
If your new place dosen't allow a stacked setup, well, go ahead and buy a new washer dryer set AGAIN.

Why you would be scrapping a perfectly fine dryer is beyond me just because it doesn't match the washer, but what ever.
Just be told the new LG dryer probably won't outperform the dryer that's currently there.
I do see why you would want to replace a BOL Samsung washer - just not why it does have to be an LG WashTower.



Further, the comments that the SQ stack is to big dosen't make any sense to me - the SQ stack should be smaller in almost every dimension compared to an LG stack.

I wouldn't recommend SQs myself, yes, but they certainly aren't significantly larger than an LG set.



Also, a separate LG FL has a lot ease of use advantages over the WashTower.

The WashTower only has 6 easily selectable cycles and a few options.
The normal FL has almost all cycles right there on the dial - especially helpful since as many said, many cycles like Towels, Whites etc. are very valuable tools.



I do understand what you're issue is - just the way you go about it is so backwards to me...


Post# 1156798 , Reply# 16   8/13/2022 at 06:36 by Turbowash (USA)        

Our laundry room is small and narrow. We want to make more space and storage. Dryer I found in this house is maytag neptune. I like it, but it has top controls .Our plan is to have folding table above the washer and dryer if we get separate units .
If we get stacked washer, we have even more space. Regular stacked is uncomfortable, dryer controls are too high.


Post# 1156805 , Reply# 17   8/13/2022 at 09:15 by 48bencix (Sacramento CA)        
Dumb designs

I agree that the controls on most stacked washer/dryer combos are too high. Most units used to be 36" tall. Now, many are 39" tall making the top controls of the dryer very high. Sears used to sell a WD combo stack that had relocatable controls for the dryer, very smart.

Post# 1156814 , Reply# 18   8/13/2022 at 11:37 by nmassman44 (Brooksville Florida)        

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The SQ stack washer is a beast in size. I am 5'9 and I have an issue with getting to the back of the dryer. But thats me.
I would agree that if you need to get into the washer components then I would go with separate machines and stack them. If one dies you still can keep the other functioning machine and replace the broken one. If size is really an issue you could also look into Electrolux since they are a bit smaller on the outside and not as tall. The ones I had stacked came in at 72 inches if I recall right. LG would not have fit since both stacked would have been 76 inches tall and where the washer and dryer were it would not have fit in my basement.
That said, the new LG's use the TurboWash 360 and uses plenty of water. The washer i have is the 4000 rated #2 by Consumer Reports.


Post# 1156893 , Reply# 19   8/14/2022 at 03:34 by Logixx (Germany)        
Relocateable controls

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LG used to have a dryer where the control panel could be removed and mounted on the bottom of the machine for stacking. Samsung has been selling washer that will also control the dryer for about a year now.






Post# 1156937 , Reply# 20   8/14/2022 at 17:05 by ryner1988 (Indianapolis)        

I can attest to the fact that dryers last way longer than washers. In 2016, I bought a Whirlpool VMW TL washer. Around the same time, my in-laws gave us a used dryer they found at an auction. Whirlpool 29-inch design, made in 2008 I believe. The washer, which was bought new, died a few months ago but the dryer is still going strong with no issues. Had that been an all-in-one stacked unit like the Washtower, I would have been extremely frustrated with having to replace the whole machine when the dryer portion would have still been working just fine.

Post# 1156938 , Reply# 21   8/14/2022 at 17:23 by qsd-dan (West)        

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"Whirlpool 29-inch design, made in 2008 I believe."

The glory days of the 29 inchers were generally pre 2000's so the dryer outlasting the washer are isn't exactly reliable information today. Probably the same the story with just about any dryer made today, they're built insanely cheap.

Don't believe me? Check out this older thread:

www.automaticwasher.org/c...

BTW, WTF is up with this site today? It has more bugs in it than the entire state of Florida.


Post# 1156957 , Reply# 22   8/14/2022 at 21:04 by ryner1988 (Indianapolis)        

I think the server must be having issues as it went down right as I was posting. Had to go back and post again. It seems to be better now though, haven't been kicked off in a few minutes at least.

I know the 29 dryers these days are pretty much shite, but I thought they were still good in 2008. Mine seems pretty solid, was 7 years old when I got it and still running well.


Post# 1156960 , Reply# 23   8/14/2022 at 21:23 by Turbowash (USA)        

I had good luck with previous LG fl washer set, I hope new set is going to be as good.
I donít like my current Samsung, itís spilling water and softer on the floor if you open the detergent drawer while the washer door is open. My two teenage kids are always forgetting to shut the door before adding detergentÖ
Why this Samsung is dispensing softener as soon as the washing cycle begins? I see how itís running down the door. I thought softener should be dispensed during the rinse cycle, not before washing cycle.


Post# 1156964 , Reply# 24   8/14/2022 at 22:00 by henene4 (Emden (Germany))        
Immediate dispensing

That shouldn't happen - softener should dispense during the last rinse.

Either the dispenser is just dirty.
Or - more likely, what I have seen happening with many machines over here - limescale buildup interferes with water direction.


Most FL washers with 3 dispenser compartments today only have 2 valves for cold water.
Basic idea is that one valve goes to one compartment, the other no another.
The third compartment is dispensed by both valves opening together. The 2 water streams collide and deflect each other directing the water to the 3rd compartment - usually the softener.

If there is limescale buildup in the water paths, some water from one valve will just naturally be deflected into the 3rd compartment even if it shouldn't leading to an to early dispensing.




Over here, usually, the machines do a short pre-fill through the pre wash.
That pre-wash fill is usually what ends up spilling enough water into the softener compartment.
Solution is/was removing those buildups one way or another - mamy machines have an accessible gap where the 2 streams would crosss so you could use some sharp scraping tool to remove the build-up.


Post# 1156965 , Reply# 25   8/14/2022 at 22:04 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
29"Whirlpool Dryers

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Are still just fine, we do less service on those built in the last ten years than older ones and they are safer than ever.

 

Te rear rollers are better than ever, the heaters last longer, motors are fine, the timers with plastic shafts have had a higher failure rate, but you win some and lose some.

 

John L.


Post# 1156994 , Reply# 26   8/15/2022 at 03:06 by askolover (South of Nash Vegas, TN)        

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I don't own an LG Washtower but I can say for a fact that the dryer is removable for servicing or moving.  This video from LG is proof




I also read somewhere that LG sells replacement washer units should one wear out before the dryer does.  However I cannot confirm this.


Post# 1157019 , Reply# 27   8/15/2022 at 12:39 by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
wash cycles and habits

I mostly use the normal cycle on the washer and dryer, with the exception of whites in the washer which use whitest whites on accelawash. I don't use normal with energy saver on the dryer. I use cold or warm wash on normal depending on when I wash darks or light colors.

Post# 1157099 , Reply# 28   8/16/2022 at 14:43 by GELaundry4ever (Killeen tx USA)        
normal cycle

On the dryer, I use normal cycle without energy saver.


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