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Thread Number: 93891
/ Tag: Vintage Dryers
Some new appliances are better than old ones |
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Post# 1185571 7/22/2023 at 20:26 (286 days old) by combo52  (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Here’s a great example, I Maytag electric dryer DE808. We removed it from service a few weeks ago from our customers home.
We replaced it with a brand new Maytag commercial quality 27 inch dryer whirlpool was closing out this model so the customer got it for only 599 delivered, We went and completed the installation and hauled away the old dryer. The only thing I can see better about the Maytag was the porcelain finish top, but every other aspect of the construction of these two dryers shows the new Maytag to be superior and will be far less trouble prone than the old Maytag dryer , The old Maytag dryer had a new roller, two new belts, two new blowers, a light lens repairs to the electronic control when it wouldn’t shut off and the new motor, these are the repairs that we did that we know of it may have had others before the customer bought the house in 1990 the dryer was There. It also had several problems that were not repaired the plastic guard over the lint filter disintegrated the plastic inner door panel started to break up and we had to try to screw it back together. John | ||
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Post# 1185573 , Reply# 1 7/22/2023 at 20:30 (286 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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A few pictures of the new Maytag dryer
The new Maytag dryer is far better built and has far less plastic in it than the old Maytag, it has a blower that’s properly attached to the motor. It has four rollers under the drum, so it won’t have the slides making all the staining on the door that you see on the old dryer. It has a better idler, pulley and belt design and a much better heating element design.
It’s also a far safer dryer, but that comes with the territory as most new dryers are safer than old ones John. | ||
| Post# 1185578 , Reply# 2 7/22/2023 at 20:59 (286 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
Nice Try... | ||
| Post# 1185582 , Reply# 3 7/22/2023 at 21:07 (286 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
If you decide to part it out, I highly suggest putting together a Maytag dryer like the one I did this spring, you won’t have any regrets since you’ll have flexibility and such. Plus it can be for the museum to show what Maytag could have done if they decided add more features to appeal to buyers back in the 70’s.
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Post# 1185587 , Reply# 4 7/22/2023 at 22:12 (286 days old) by appnut (TX) |
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| Post# 1185635 , Reply# 5 7/23/2023 at 10:57 (285 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
Very true John. I miss the older vacuum cleaners like Hoover, Eureka, Kenmore, Royal, etc. But there are some companies today that actually make their vacuums even better than they ever had before like Sebo, Miele, Lindhaus, Henry, etc. Especially companies like MD Manufacturing that improve their models but still use their traditional classic design. This Modern Day M715h unit is what I'd love to have in my next home someday.
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Post# 1185701 , Reply# 6 7/23/2023 at 23:33 (285 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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I have a collection of MD central units in my vacuum collection.You can use them freestanding with the hose connector on the vacuum or have the vac dealer add a hose connector. | ||
| Post# 1185703 , Reply# 7 7/23/2023 at 23:50 (285 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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Post# 1185728 , Reply# 8 7/24/2023 at 07:56 (285 days old) by tennblondie78 (Bowling Green, KY) |
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My FIL bought that same Maytag "Commercial" set last year. His dryer has been non functional now for almost 2 months because of a "broken belt sensor" that has gone bad. Belt is fine, sensor tanked. Getting it repaired through warranty has been a nightmare. No thanks. I'll keep my 1976 806/808 set. When he came over to do his laundry in my set, I said "I told you so." I see nothing commercial about that junk other than making it look industrial.
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| Post# 1185735 , Reply# 9 7/24/2023 at 09:11 (285 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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| Post# 1185737 , Reply# 10 7/24/2023 at 09:30 (285 days old) by potatochips ( ) | ||
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Ugh. Here we go again. John, that 808 is a 50 year old dryer. Of course it's going to be beat up and worn out. What did you expect? This is hardly indisputable evidence of your "Maytag bad. Whirlpool good." bullshit. | ||
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Post# 1185740 , Reply# 11 7/24/2023 at 09:48 (284 days old) by neptunebob (Pittsburgh, PA) |
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Post# 1185789 , Reply# 12 7/24/2023 at 21:32 (284 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Some new appliances are superior in durability
When I made the post, I meant to say that some appliances are better today, this is an excellent example. There’s no question that this new 27 inch whirlpool built dryer, will outlast a 29 inch Maytag dryer.
Reply number two, hi Dan, this Maytag dryer was not abused in anyway the only thing the owners failed to do was probably wipe it off and wax it every month or so. The owners of this dryer acquired it when they bought the house in 1990 they raise three children in the house so it had a lot of use, two of the kids are off on their own married. Now one boy has a special needs child and will be at home for pretty much ever. The only reason this Maytag lasted as long as it did it because we repaired 11 times most customers would not keep a dryer this long or repair it that many times but are excellent service kept it going as it will the new dryer. Reply number eight, bad belt switch on a new Maytag dryer, this is the type of thing that can happen to any dryer, but it really shows the importance of buying appliances where there is good service available. Whirlpool issues this belt switch for 20 years it should be on average service person’s truck. If I did not have one, I would bypass it until I could come back with one. It’s an important safety feature, but not critical, I would be raising holy hell if my dryer didn’t work for two months Reply number 11. Hi Bob, you should probably stick to recommending meta-Meusel, the thickness of the metal does not have anything to do with the length of life you will get out of the dryer. Whirlpool has made superior dryers to Maytag for about 80 years now I don’t think anything has changed It is true that it’s not likely to be kept 45 years because we’re not gonna be here to service the new dryer also people will not be using resistance electric heated dryers in 45 years. Heat pump dryers will take over in the next 20 years, and few people will want to pay this much for electricity to dry clothing in the future , John | ||
| Post# 1185797 , Reply# 13 7/24/2023 at 23:04 (284 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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Post# 1185798 , Reply# 14 7/24/2023 at 23:31 (284 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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I hav e NO odor problems with my freestanding central vacuums.They have HEPA filters and bags.Venting in these cases is not required. | ||
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Post# 1185808 , Reply# 15 7/25/2023 at 07:41 (284 days old) by Frigidaireguy (Wiston-Salem, NC) |
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John: I sent you a message Bob | ||
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Post# 1185819 , Reply# 17 7/25/2023 at 11:52 (283 days old) by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md) |
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Post number 16
Hi potato chips, I’m going to send you a personal message as well.
I don’t have a hate of Maytag whatsoever I call appliances as I see them. As I mentioned earlier, I have six pairs of Maytag’s in the museum. I have two Maytag appliances in my own home, I sold this couple of new Maytag dryer to replace their old one in fact. Because of this interesting thread the parts from this DE 808 are going to go on to make another Maytag dryer and other parts of it are also going to help keep others working, which is a win for the Maytag fans with 80 or 90% of the DE808 have already been crushed. That’s a good thing if you’re a collector. I don’t think this is an appropriate form to bring up Brians suicide if you wanna discuss that message me thanks John | ||
| Post# 1185820 , Reply# 18 7/25/2023 at 12:29 (283 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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| Post# 1185823 , Reply# 19 7/25/2023 at 12:34 (283 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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| Post# 1185824 , Reply# 20 7/25/2023 at 12:44 (283 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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| Post# 1185826 , Reply# 21 7/25/2023 at 13:00 (283 days old) by panasonicvac (Northern Utah) | ||
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Actually even with the HEPA bags on, they'd still blow out dust and odor into the air. There's a ActiVacIII filter that's optional to have which will blow zero on a particle counter but it's about $70 you'd need to replace on occasion like 1-3 years. Not to mention with dual motor central vac units you should have two of them on. Even if I did wanted to use a central vac free standing, I can't with the Modern Day M715h because it'll block the cooling vent on the bottom which will overheat and burnout the motor as it is a bypass design. And it'll just add extra noise inside the home. No thanks, I'll just keep mine in the garage or the basement with it vented outside just like with dryers.
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Post# 1185869 , Reply# 22 7/26/2023 at 00:05 (283 days old) by tolivac (greenville nc) |
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Again no problem with exhaust dust.No smells either.And my MD Silentmaster lives up to its name-no more noise that a typical canister vacuum.It is not a 240V dual motor-120V single motor 15A.My particle counter showed no counts when the machine running and in use. | ||
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Post# 1185894 , Reply# 23 7/26/2023 at 11:08 (282 days old) by tennblondie78 (Bowling Green, KY) |
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| Post# 1185897 , Reply# 25 7/26/2023 at 11:29 (282 days old) by Maytag85 (Sean A806) | ||
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Reply #23
I am not certain if there’s any way to bypass it. I’ve been using dryers for the past 6 without a belt sensor or thermal fuses, haven’t had any issues with anything getting damaged or catching fire. Sometimes I think they purposely put thermal fuses in dryers to mislead people into thinking there’s a major issue when there’s not. Maybe they should put a double throw switch thermostat near the heater box or burner and if it exceeds the 250F temperature, should turn on a LOUD buzzer to let the user know of a airflow issue, I think a overheat buzzer is a great idea since it would literally force people into cleaning the lint screen after each load along with keeping ductwork and the insides of the dryer clean and free of lint.
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| Post# 1185902 , Reply# 27 7/26/2023 at 12:37 (282 days old) by qsd-dan (West) | ||
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So how does one bypass that belt sensor? | ||
| Post# 1185947 , Reply# 28 7/27/2023 at 08:21 (282 days old) by potatochips ( ) | ||
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I didn't bring up Brians cause of death John, you just did. And then you have the audacity to message me and tell me its inappropriate? "I call it like I see it, even if it puts others down". You're a true narcissist. | ||
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Post# 1186033 , Reply# 29 7/28/2023 at 08:57 (281 days old) by chetlaham (United States) |
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| Post# 1186452 , Reply# 30 7/31/2023 at 20:57 (277 days old) by NickL (Mid-Atlantic) | ||
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That very thread GoodShepherd references above ... I was poring over it just a few days ago before going into a helical transmission. I was not aware of BeekKeyKnee's passing. He continues being helpful through his contributions here. ( and I should be so fortunate as to have that said when my days are over.) | ||
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