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Post# 1193816   11/18/2023 at 05:42 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Another bit of advertising and promotion brought to you by men who likely never did a load of laundry in their lives.

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Post# 1193819 , Reply# 1   11/18/2023 at 07:05 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
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Somewhat convincing, but I should’ve been there asking questions, lol.

They don’t talk about how badly tangled the clothing will come out of the washer, or the huge amount of electricity and electric dryer like that will use.

A nice top loading whirlpool or Kenmore washer was much preferred by most homemakers to say nothing at the economy and speed of the matching gas dryer that many people would buy in the 50s.

My friend Robert, who collected slant front wing house washers was talking about his collection to our friend Twila, who is working for us and she was absolutely horrified that anybody would collect these washers when she was first married. Her first pair was a Westinghouse pair like this and she said she spent all her time untangling the wash she was so happy when they ditched it in 1959 and bought Ken more couldn’t believe the difference she said.

John


Post# 1193831 , Reply# 2   11/18/2023 at 09:25 by petek (Ontari ari ari O )        

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Love these old industrial films. How popular were these slant fronts anyways by sales percentages roughly against top loaders? The film makes them sound as if they were the biggest seller but I don't recall seeing very many at all when I was a kid in our neighborhood. Two I can think of, my piano teacher and some neighbors

Post# 1193839 , Reply# 3   11/18/2023 at 10:56 by combo52 (50 Year Repair Tech Beltsville,Md)        
How popular were slant front Westinghouse automatics

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There was a lot of competition for automatic washer sales in the 1950s, Westinghouse was one of the top selling brands. I’m fairly sure it would be interesting to see the sales statistics.

I’m quite sure Kenmore would’ve been. The top seller followed by whirlpool. Westinghouse may have been number three GE and Frigidaire did well also. Maytag probably came in about next, and you still had a lot of Bendix sales and there were eight more brands picked up the remainder of the sales.

John


Post# 1193843 , Reply# 4   11/18/2023 at 11:21 by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

We had a slightly newer (1955) Laundromat washer until 1964. I do remember it liked to twist sheets, tablecloths, and large towels. It also would sometimes get out of balance, and once moved far enough it unplugged itself. I also recall it having to be worked on several times. The 1964 washer was also a Westinghouse front load, but they were no longer the slant front design. I don't remember it tangling items as badly. It was pretty rusty by the time it was replaced in 1973, when a new Maytag set was purchased. I don't remember anyone else in this neighborhood having a front load washer, but the largest appliance dealer around here sold Westinghouse for a number of years. They changed to selling GE around 1960, so the dryer and second washer were bought in downtown Cincinnati.

We didn't get a dryer until 1963, the last year of the slant front design. It never had any issues the whole time we had it.


Post# 1193845 , Reply# 5   11/18/2023 at 11:49 by rinso (Meridian Idaho)        

We had a 1979 WW front loader.
Pros were it's frugal (but not stingy) use of water, great lint and sand removal, washed very well, quiet operation, and I think its "Potato Pulley" helped with the tangling problem, and in seven years of use, no repairs.

Cons were it's anemic spin speed (like WP & Kenmore), rust-bucket door and cabinet (at the least, the door should have been porcelain-coated), and no off-balance switch.

As I mentioned, it never needed a repair. It just sort of committed suicide by rust.


Post# 1193852 , Reply# 6   11/18/2023 at 12:46 by ea56 (Cotati, Calif.)        

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My Aunt Imogene had a ‘55 set of Westinghouse slant fronts that they bought new in ‘55 and used without a single problem of repair until ‘65 when they sold their house and the Westie’s with it. It was the first washing machine that really fascinated me because no one else had one like it.

I don’t recall her ever complaining about tangled loads. The dryer wasn’t connected to 240, but rather regular household current. Grandpa used to always be after her to let him put in a 240 outlet, but she said negatory, she liked that her dryer never shrunk clothes because of the more gentle heat.

Back then I can recall at least three homes that had Bendix FL’s, the diving bell one’s. These always were a treat for me to watch in action too.

Eddie


Post# 1193859 , Reply# 7   11/18/2023 at 15:54 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Don't know about 1953 when this film was made, but by 1954 Sears/Kenmore was top seller of automatic washing machines in USA.

Going back decades the Upton Manufacturing Company (what would eventually become Whirlpool) had sort of a captive relationship with Sears. Latter via their dominance nationwide in retail market (catalog and stores) moved considerable amounts of goods each year. Sears by 1950's had their easy payment plans and other sorts of credit which made financing large purchases affordable for middle or even low income households.

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That being said things often broke down by region or local conditions. This including whatever deals or otherwise were being pushed by local power utilities (who sold appliances on credit, payments were added to a household's electric or gas bill).

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Going by Consumer's Union (later Consumer Reports) there were only three top selling brands of washing machines in 1950's; Maytag, Kenmore and Whirlpool. Latter two of course were same machines under bonnet basically, but Sears demanded changes for their appliances and WP had no choice but to comply.


Post# 1193861 , Reply# 8   11/18/2023 at 16:10 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Not for want of trying...

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But Westinghouse's front loaders in all designs never had a huge market share. This even as production continued into 1970's and beyond. Indeed Maytag got slapped down when they tried to pull they were first in USA with a front loader (Neptune). That claim worked because few if any recall or recalled Westinghouse or Bendix front loaders.

That being said Westinghouse H-axis washers and matching dryers did have a decent following. Pretty much for reasons outlined in OP sales/marketing piece and elsewhere.


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Ms. Betty Furness in all her high heeled and girdled glory did her best as Westinghouse spokeswoman in touting benefits of front loading washers. But many American housewives weren't having any of it. Much of this likely was due to a low suds detergent that could compete with top selling Tide. Dash and All were two low froth detergents, but still.














Westinghouse's "Spacemaker" W&D set appealed to many space challenged households. That and housewives who wanted their laundry appliances on main floor instead of down in basement.






Post# 1193863 , Reply# 9   11/18/2023 at 16:29 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Westinghouse did have a pretty good lead post war USA and even Europe as their "Laundromat" washers became some of (if not first) coin operated front loaders. There was also a commercial version marketed to OPL and other laundries.

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Post# 1193864 , Reply# 10   11/18/2023 at 16:31 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Coupled with their laundromat offerings Westinghouse also produced and marketed self dry cleaning machines. Would imagine nearly all such places that had this equipment installed are now EPA superfund sites. That or property is somewhat to heavily contaminated with dry cleaning chemicals.






Post# 1193871 , Reply# 11   11/18/2023 at 18:58 by Maytag85 (Sean A806)        

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Those Westinghouse slant front dryers are practically an oven with a spinning drum. Pretty sure if you disabled the drum drive somehow, probably could cook food with it LOL.

Post# 1193876 , Reply# 12   11/18/2023 at 20:14 by CircleW (NE Cincinnati OH area)        

I don't remember many in my area having Kenmore appliances when I was a kid. The big Sears store was on Reading Rd. in the Avondale neighborhood - about 3 miles north of downtown, and 33 miles from here.

I have no idea why they chose a Westinghouse washer. The dealer was 4 blocks from the house, but there were also Hotpoint, GE, Maytag and Frigidaire dealers within the same distance.


Post# 1193888 , Reply# 13   11/19/2023 at 02:59 by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        

They were quite popular here as well, although most of the Westinghouse laundromat equipped centres, I found to be partially still in existence. (signage and dryers) I do remember going to the one in Queanbeyan where they still had some of the washes, but unfortunately they were decommissioned due to the amount of water they used, which I took a photo of them

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Post# 1193892 , Reply# 14   11/19/2023 at 05:38 by angus (Fairfield, CT.)        

Another issue with using the early front loaders was that the low sudsing detergents of the period - Dash, All and later Colgate's AD were not great cleaners according to CR testing. And getting the right suds level with Tide, Fab and other high performing, high suds detergents was challenging. I also don't think folks actually knew how to load those machines. In more laundromats than I care to count over the years, I have seen people stuff those machines completely full so that the clothes moved in a giant ball in a circle - particularly true with the small capacity old bolt down Westinghouse laundromat models. So the clothes didn't circulate but maybe just got a little damp. I can't imagine the results...

Post# 1193898 , Reply# 15   11/19/2023 at 08:51 by Helicaldrive (St. Louis)        
Thanks Laundress

For all these posts!

Post# 1193932 , Reply# 16   11/19/2023 at 19:41 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
YW!

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If I can help somebody.....

Post# 1193934 , Reply# 17   11/19/2023 at 19:48 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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For those who've ever suffered through spell check insisting on capitalizing "L" in "Laundromat", it's because at one time the word was a proper noun.

Westinghouse registered "Laundromat" as trade name used not just on their laundry appliances but also first "laundromats". Hence everyone else had to call their laundries something else such as "Launderettes"

Westinghouse did not allow that trademark to expire until 1993. Thus now "laundromat" has fallen into common usage not all apps have read that memo.

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Post# 1193935 , Reply# 18   11/19/2023 at 19:54 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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Once again you have to admire Westinghouse for making an effort. That L-1000 and D1000 are dreamy!


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Post# 1193938 , Reply# 19   11/19/2023 at 20:23 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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Laundromat ... I've noticed many people write the term as laundry mat.


Post# 1193940 , Reply# 20   11/19/2023 at 20:32 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Being as all this may...

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From an archived thread.

"In 1984 the top rated top loaders, Maytag A710 and Whirlpool LA5800 all rated good to excellent across all categories including cleaning performace of regular and permanent press fabrics.

However the two front loaders tested, White-Westinghouse LT600E and Gibson WS14M6WL rated excellent across the board, period. The only exceptions were tub capacity and water extraction."
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Post# 1193941 , Reply# 21   11/19/2023 at 20:48 by DADoES (TX, U.S. of A.)        

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White-Westinghouse and Gibson ... same manufacturer at the time.


Post# 1193942 , Reply# 22   11/19/2023 at 21:05 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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"I've noticed many people write the term as laundry mat."

That's one way of stopping an app from insisting on capitalizing "Laundromat".


Post# 1193944 , Reply# 23   11/19/2023 at 21:08 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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My idea of heaven!



Notice this UK launderette equipped with dryers also has an extractor.

In USA while not common in homes many self serve laundromats did have Bock extractors. This was way of coping with often anemic final spin rpm speed of all washer/extractors at the time.


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Post# 1193951 , Reply# 24   11/20/2023 at 01:23 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        
Easy credit terms..

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One could have a Westinghouse washer for easy weekly payments of $3.25 in 1954.

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Average yearly wage for men in USA for that time was $2,400 or $44.44 per week. Remember average salary information from US census department was income reported before deductions. Then as now persons would have had at least FICA taken out of their pay, so what they took home was lower.

It may seem like peanuts to us to day but that four bucks per week would have represented a good part of weekly wages for most households.

That $3.15 is equal to $36.03 in today's money which puts things into perspective.

Average wage for women in 1954 was only $1,200 per year. So can see how a dual income couple (and there were more than many imagine) could afford bit more luxuries associated with middle class lifestyle.


Post# 1193952 , Reply# 25   11/20/2023 at 03:43 by Adam-aussie-vac (Canberra ACT)        
It seems to be more and more common that Westinghouse

Laundromat equipped centres commonly had an extractor, for the two that I have physically visited, both of which had at least one extractor for a small shop, and for a large place they had three, does anybody have any other photos of any Westinghouse laundromat centres? Because now I want to see as to what they look like in other countries

Post# 1193953 , Reply# 26   11/20/2023 at 03:47 by Launderess (Quiet Please, There´s a Lady on Stage)        

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