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Post# 588076   4/9/2012 at 10:27 (1,841 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        

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Hey lovely people, hope all is well?

I've been asked to do a new thread to my request earlier asking if anyone have any Creda/Electra video's on YouTube?

I'm really keen to see some of these machines working. Plus it would be great to refresh our memory, as these machines tend to be push to the side lines and not often talked about. The Creda machine's I'm interested in, would be the machine's from the 70s/80s, right up and till the "Supaspeed" generation. I'm also interested to find out more about the "Creda Supaspeed Generation", like the pic below showing the "Creda 1200 Supaspeed". 


My sister in law owned this machine and was a washer-dryer. My memory was, during the spin intervals, the spin would rev up to its top speed for a few seconds, (sounded like a Concorde, which made it all exciting) then would continue its next rinse phase and so on. My personal opinion is, this was rather a "cool" machine for its day. In fact it was the last "cool" looking machine Creda did, after it looked too much like Hotpoint, as I wasn't personally fond of these designs. 


Any how if anyone one has information, clippings and so on, you'd make me one happy guy. Plus more info on Creda Micro would be excellent too. 

 

Thanks everyone...

 

Hass



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Post# 588131 , Reply# 1   4/9/2012 at 15:21 (1,841 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

i'm always keeping my eye out on youtube for creda and electra machines,especially the 11500,

fingers crossed we see those style of machines in action one day :)


Post# 588134 , Reply# 2   4/9/2012 at 15:31 (1,841 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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We had an Electra branded Creda from 93-95. It was hopeless. It didn't wash all that well, and it was forever breaking down. It was the same as the pic below, only it was all white and had an additional delay timer.

Post# 588137 , Reply# 3   4/9/2012 at 15:44 (1,841 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

my gran had that model after her Hoover Electronic packed in!

it was a bit of a poor machine


Post# 588156 , Reply# 4   4/9/2012 at 16:16 (1,841 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
You jolted my memory...

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...if I can remember correctly my sister in law's Creda Machie ie the pic I posted above, she also had problems problems with it. Mind you her machine was contantly on the go, as she had young kids back then. But then again as Hotpoint was behind making of Creda, then you can see why they often broke down :)

Post# 588168 , Reply# 5   4/9/2012 at 17:22 (1,841 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
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This Ti Creda 10500 Electronic Super deluxe rhythm spin was my parents first automatic. What i would give to find one of these now!

Post# 588599 , Reply# 6   4/11/2012 at 10:46 (1,839 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Your opinions and questions...

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So how many of you guys love these machines then, it seem's the Creda 10500 Electronic Super Deluxe are difficult to find? Would this be a the "must have" in your washing machine collection?

Post# 588637 , Reply# 7   4/11/2012 at 14:21 (1,839 days old) by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        

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How do Hass.

Vintage Creda's are exceedingly rare indeed. Dont really no why that is as, as far as I know, there was never a stigma against buying the brand and there weren't any major reliability issues I know of associated with them.

I remember catching the tale end of the black fascia machines and the start of the brown slant fascia series machines in the early to mid 80s.
Indeed one of my fondest memories is of seeing a Creda Model 12000 Microelectronic de luxe 1000 - the black fascia machine festooned with white buttons - fully plumbed in and working, on show outside Currys in Accrington.

The only black fascia Creda washer that has ever surfaced, as far as I know, was a model 10700 that was taken to the council tip where Gary (electron1100) worked. That was over a year ago and unfortunately the machine was wayyyy too far gone to even consider restoring.
Gary will be able to tell you more about it, but I know that he stripped the fascia and door off it. A real case of so near and yet so far.

Then of course there was the unfortunate black fascia Creda destroyed in a particularly cruel episode of 'How Clean is your House'.



Re the 10500.....one of those lived at number 16 on my parents street. It was a really smart machine, but unfortunately I never saw it working.
It was replaced by a Hotpoint 9901 washer-dryer and consigned to their garage for a few years.
One day a skip appeared on their driveway and when peering over the top, being a nosey youngster, I saw their 10500 inside and lying on its back.
That was the last time I ever saw a square door Creda and they were the only household that I knew, who had one.

Would be superb to see one again and to find out just what the Rhythm spin was all about.

Paul


Post# 588638 , Reply# 8   4/11/2012 at 14:23 (1,839 days old) by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        

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Oh - forgot.

Mike of course has an Electra 11500, but it requires a drum bearing change.
So there is one in good hands, just sat in a repair queue.

So, in time we shall get to see an electra branded, black fascia series machine at work.
He even has the matching dryer for it now too!
Paul


Post# 588751 , Reply# 9   4/12/2012 at 10:56 (1,838 days old) by Tomturbomatic (Beltsville, MD)        

I don't know if this will help, but I have a Creda SupaSpeed 1000 Eco Wash made for export to the US. It has two dials: one is the timer and one the wash temp selector. It has switches for ON, SLOW SPIN, SUPER WASH (high water level) & something that holds it before the last drain & spin. After the first, second and third rinses, it goes into a distrubution speed then the slow spin speed for just long enough for enough water to be spun out that it runs between the inner and outer tubs & down the door glass, then it slows back to the distribution speed as the water drains. After some time, it resumes the slow spin for a longer period then slows to drain that water and then goes into the next rinse. After the fourth rinse, it does that then goes into the final spin. I flip the Super Wash switch on when the wash water drains for high level rinses. The machine dates from the 90s, I think. I keep putting brushes in the motor and it keeps running. It is so unusual that the motor is at the top of the machine.

Post# 588877 , Reply# 10   4/12/2012 at 21:02 (1,837 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        

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Hello guys, as always, appreciate you sharing your stories. Paul interesting read and sounds torturing when you wrap it up like that, as I sense you really wanted to grab hold of these machines, especially the Creda that was on display in Currys.

Paul, when you find the time, maybe you could help me/us go through each series for Creda's? Even though I did my research by going through the archives, still can't place which time period each machines are except, The Creda Micro Series is from the mid 80s. Also was the name "Electra" first, before it became "Creda"?

Tomturbomatic: The description to your Creda Supaspeed 1000 machine sounds more like the Hotpoint wash rhythm to what I had explained in my previous post... Great to hear the machine is still going strong, even if you do have to change the brushes time to time.


Post# 589222 , Reply# 11   4/14/2012 at 07:24 (1,836 days old) by robm (London)        

Hi all

Regarding the 10500, this was one of my favourite machines. My nan's best friend and next door neighbour had one and I was lucky enough to see it working a few times drinking tea in the kitchen. This would have been around 1980.

This is what I remember -

Looks - I always thought somewhere between Hotpoint and Hoover - sort of a 70s Hotty and Hoover love child LOL. The dials were almost Hotpointish but the square door was very Hoover, although the glass bowl itself was wider and less pointy than Hoover - more like Hotpoint and rounded. Of course the square door was inset into the frame, unlike Hoovers at the time where the door was proud. Interestingly the Credas looked more modern like the Hoover A3110 which was yet to be introduced. The door seal was grey and there was no bottom trim. The drum was really a complete cross between Hotpoint and Hoover. I think the paddles were similar to Hotpoint but the trim and holes were very Hoover and the back was its own unique pattern. The dials and buttons had some orange going on.

In action - Sadly the machine was always set to the synthetics spin (through a button) which removed the rhythm spin. I think the machine used to fill just to the glass when washing and half way up when rinsing. The wash action was standard long turns and short pulses except when heating. The distribution was exactly like Hotpoint and Hoover. The short spin accelerated very fast and stopped almost as soon as 800rpm was reached.

The sound - It's difficult to remember exactly but like Concorde. Probably pitchwise somewhere between the Hotty and Hoover and definately loud but in a good way! I remember it having a pump that made an atchoo noise.

This was definitely a great machine and sadly missed. I believe what finished a lot of them off were dodgy program dials not working. That's what killed that one.

Here is the Which report from 79

Rob


Post# 589256 , Reply# 12   4/14/2012 at 09:29 (1,836 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
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Where very understated in the Automatic world and yet had some fab machines, those first series machines look well ahead of their time, rumour is they sold the castings to Hoover for the electronic series, yes the Electra I have is a fab machine and just awaiting a bearing replacement, next one is the Servis MK72 fill valve and then it will be done next!!



Post# 589268 , Reply# 13   4/14/2012 at 10:50 (1,836 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        

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Hey guys,

Rob: The way you described the machine, almost sounds like the Creda Supaspeed. During the spin intervals after each rinse, the water would drain out the drum as it tumble round clock wise and anti clock wise for a few minutes. When it was about to hit it's spin phase, the machinewould then go to a quick distribution mode, then the spinaccelerated very fast and stopped almost as soon as the Max Spin Speed was reached,(in this case 1000 RPM) then continued to it's next rinse phase.

Also the Supaspeed machine spun anti clock wise, which I found rather odd.Because I always got the impression British made machines always spun clock wise and most European machines spun anti clock wise.

Ok I might be getting a little technical, but can any one explain why this is the case?

The drum of the Supaspeed machines, is exactly the same as the Electra machines, like the pic below (borrowed from the archive, which was originally posted by Electron1100)

Mike: We look forward to seeing your machine's in action. As Paul explained your Electra machine needed new bearings.

Thanks for reading, Hass


Post# 589308 , Reply# 14   4/14/2012 at 13:11 (1,836 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Creda/Electra

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Here are some fots of various Creda and Electra machines i came across at work

Post# 589309 , Reply# 15   4/14/2012 at 13:12 (1,836 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Creda/Electra

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Creda Sensamatic

Post# 589310 , Reply# 16   4/14/2012 at 13:14 (1,836 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Creda/Electra

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Electra dryer

Post# 589311 , Reply# 17   4/14/2012 at 13:15 (1,836 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Creda/Electra

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Electra 1100 Washer

Post# 589312 , Reply# 18   4/14/2012 at 13:16 (1,836 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Creda/Electra

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Creda 462 dryer

Post# 589313 , Reply# 19   4/14/2012 at 13:17 (1,836 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Creda/Electra

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Poor old Creda 1000 washer

Post# 589314 , Reply# 20   4/14/2012 at 13:18 (1,836 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Creda/Electra

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Electra 1200 washer

Post# 589315 , Reply# 21   4/14/2012 at 13:19 (1,836 days old) by electron1100 (England)        
Creda/Electra

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Electra 1200 washer

Post# 589324 , Reply# 22   4/14/2012 at 14:18 (1,836 days old) by aquarius8000 (Hampshire - UK)        

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Heres a pic of an electra 422 dryer wich I lost the auction of:(

Post# 589580 , Reply# 23   4/15/2012 at 08:32 (1,835 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Electra/Creda Pic's

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Gary thanks for sharing the pic with us, guessing not many of the machines couldn't be saved? The Electra 1100 Washer is growing on me, the more I see it, the more I like it and looks very similar to Creda Micro machines.

aquarius8000: That's a shame, hopefully something will come up soon.

As I don't know much about Electra's, I'm getting the impression Electra's were the alternative machines to buy, selling them for a cheaper price to Brands like Hoover, Hotpoint, Creda & Servis. Did "Electra" buy the rights, build there machines and sell them on, hence why a lot of Electra machines's looked similar to the above brands I've mentioned. Anyone care elaborate more about this, seeing there's little history on Electra's. I'd be most grateful.

Thanks for reading,
Hass :)


Post# 589585 , Reply# 24   4/15/2012 at 09:11 (1,835 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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The Electra 1100 washer in Reply #17 is nearly the same as my neighbors washer when I was growing up. The only differences were the name (hers was a Creda Concorde not ELectra) and hers did not have the smaller dial.

I remember on these machines you had to push and hold in the temperature dial as you turned it around. And the programmer had a very distinct 'clicking' noise as you turned it (don't know why that sticks in my head).

I remember finding the tiny power button funny just because the other buttons were big chunky rocker switches.

Noise wise I remember it sounding like our Hoover Logic that we had at the time particularly when on 1100rpm spin.

Also my neighbors was dark brown with orange around the dials and rocker switches I believe.

I found it interesting the way they grouped the cycles into the different sections of the programmer in the care label numbers (i.e: 1,2,5 or 3,4).


This machine died when apparently Hazel tried to wash a pillow in it and she told me how she had to bucket water out of it because it just plain died.
It was replaced by a Creda SupaSpeed 1200 which I used to have a lot of fun helping her use, as I got older I was allowed to flip the switches or open the door as long as my hands were spotless clean and if not they were scrubbed for me with the ever present huge block of Fairy bar soap next to her kitchen sink lol

Also Hazel knew how to wash, never saw her use 95 degrees but it was always 60 for towels, 40 acrylics for her shirts and slacks, 50 for her bed linen etc...

She favoured Daz Liquid and SurCare softener, thats something I always remember

Ahhh memories, what I wouldn't give to walk into that house again and be told I could 'flick the switches then', and proceed to flick Deep Wash and On/Off and then sit on the floor watching the whole cycle.

I went back into that house to visit her when I was back in the UK this past November and it had been replaced with John Lewis washer. ALthough Hazel did comment on how I used to sit and watch the old one for hours and hours and how much I loved watching water as a child, sweet :-)

SOrry for the long post, things came back to me as I was typing lol

Regards
Matty
x


Post# 589591 , Reply# 25   4/15/2012 at 09:42 (1,835 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Cute...

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Aww, that's cute Matty, no need to apologise, glad you shared story with us and I enjoyed reading it.

Hass x


Post# 589627 , Reply# 26   4/15/2012 at 12:04 (1,835 days old) by reversomatic (east anglia,england,u.k.)        
The rhythm method

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Does anybody else remember the the T V adverts for explaining the benefits of a rhythm spin? They stared Proffesor Magnus Pyke,Who at the time was a sort of celebrity science boffin.He was quite a tall lanky man with long arms, that he waved about to explain the spinning method.The rhythm spin just consisted of a series of short spins followed by reverse tumbling prior to the final spin.Because it added quite a lot of time to the cycle they provided a time saver button that would rapid advance the programe timer past the rhythm spin.I seem to remember that Bosch used a simalar spin on some of their machines that they called interval spin.I think there must still be 1 or 2 about somwhere as they were a well made machine,galvanised steel cabinet so rust not so much of a problem althougth the paint would flake of sometimes.And typicaly Creda the back panel was held on by about 30 self tapping screws.Ahh memories.Regards Nige.

Post# 589661 , Reply# 27   4/15/2012 at 14:12 (1,835 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Creda 10500

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That brings back alot of memories the amount of screws on the back panel & me helping our dad put numerous belts back on it, but for me it was the wonderful & powerful unique noise it used to make when ramping the spin speed up. Considering it only had a maximum 800rpm spin, the sound really made you think it was spinning much faster.

Post# 589712 , Reply# 28   4/15/2012 at 17:20 (1,835 days old) by dascot (Scotland)        
Electra

At the time, Electra was the brand of the Electricity Board stores (e.g. Seeboard, Scottish Power, Norweb, etc.) and their machines were made by a variety of manufacturers. I can remember ones by Philips, Hoover, Creda and Antonio Merloni. Later, I think the brandname may have been bought by Antonio Merloni, as I can recall seeing Electra branded machines that looked v similar to Servis ones in the likes of Currys and Comet.

Post# 589865 , Reply# 29   4/16/2012 at 06:06 (1,834 days old) by aquarius1984 (Ripley, Derbyshire)        

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Electra was indeed the name used by electricity boards as a house brand for various makes of machines and models which were sold in their high street shops.

THe name seems to have been dropped but I have no idea who owns its now. Up until about 7 years ago it was used by the one chain shop Powerhouse. They stocked Electra "merloni servis" machines and Electra "Creda/Hotpoint aquarius dryers".

Creda I would say badged up a good portion of Electra machines sold, and probably sold the most of the electra machines found.

However lets not confuse Creda with Hotpoint here, depending on the machines age it would either be a creda or Hotpoint,

Living on the border of the potteries im a 10 minute drive into Hanley (Stoke on Trent) where Hanley Library has a massive collection of local history. I went a few years back to look at the Creda archives and got information of what happened and when.

True Creda was bought out by Hotpoint in 1988 although machines were still produced up until about 1990 when everything was harmonised and homogenised, THis meaning all washers were Hotpoint's with reviewed fascias but the same internals as Hotpoint.

The dryers however plodded on for a good couple of years after in Creda's filter in the door design under Electra etc. Creda and Hotpoint Dryers became a uniform and revised design taking Creda's multivent design with back of drum heaters and dropped the filter to under the door.



Post# 589961 , Reply# 30   4/16/2012 at 13:51 (1,834 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        

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Cheers for clearing that up with me guys, really apperiate it as always. So where was the actual Creda "factory"? Never heard of Antonio Merloni, first time I've known about this, you learn summit every day! I'm a good pupil really ;) lol really I am...



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Post# 590617 , Reply# 31   4/18/2012 at 18:33 (1,831 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Electra 1100

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Mike,


That truly stunning Grey fronted Electra Electronic Deluxe 1100, when do you think you will get it fixed. I'm so desperate to see a video of it in action, hope i'm not coming across as a bloody pain.



Post# 590662 , Reply# 32   4/18/2012 at 21:23 (1,831 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Electra 1100.

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Optima, patience is a virtue my friend...lol bless :)

Post# 591093 , Reply# 33   4/20/2012 at 19:48 (1,829 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        
Creda Concorde

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How do everyone? Sorry I ain't been on for a while, internet's messing around, does anyone know why the Creda 17003 was given the formal name "Concorde" and the 17006 "Debonair 1100 Sprint" is the 17003 named "Concorde" because of the fast speed, as it was probably a very fast speed at the time the machine was built. Or is it just a thing that washing machine manufacturers do, not that it is probably.

Cheers, Brandon


Post# 591098 , Reply# 34   4/20/2012 at 20:11 (1,829 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Creda Debonair & Concorde

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Well i think the name was taken from the well known Creda Debonair Spin Dryers but as for the name Concorde, i'm sure that Colston had that name on their spin dryers & maybe Twin Tubs well before Creda had that name on their automatics. Anyway Creda deserved that name because that was exactly what they sounded like.

Post# 591608 , Reply# 35   4/23/2012 at 12:16 (1,827 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Concorde...

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So what did the Creda "Concorde" look like? Any one have pictures of this machine?

Post# 591611 , Reply# 36   4/23/2012 at 12:32 (1,827 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Creda Reversair...

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Check out this Creda Reversair which Is up for grabs on EBay! Based in Southampton/Hampshire area! Happy Bidding!


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Post# 591641 , Reply# 37   4/23/2012 at 16:44 (1,827 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        
What did the Creda Concorde look like?

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@thelaundrylab, on Hotpoint's After Sales, you can download Instruction manuals/User Guides, just type in 17003 as that is the Creda Debonair Concorde Model!

Here, see the link below.


Brandon.


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Post# 591663 , Reply# 38   4/23/2012 at 18:22 (1,826 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Brandon...

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Thank you mate, really appreciate it! I didn't think it would be possible to chase up old manuals for vintage machines! I'm impressed.

Post# 591684 , Reply# 39   4/23/2012 at 19:43 (1,826 days old) by mattywashboy (Perth, Western Australia)        

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That 17003 Concorde is the exact one my neighbor had :-)

Memmories!

Matt


Post# 591729 , Reply# 40   4/24/2012 at 01:25 (1,826 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        
vintage manuals.

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No problem, it would be great though if Hotpoint had manuals for the Liberators and Liberatoresques, also they should have some of the '83 New Generations like the 95622, 95452 etc.




Post# 591752 , Reply# 41   4/24/2012 at 05:20 (1,826 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Creda Concorde 17003...

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Brandon, I agree with you there. Looks like Hotpoint got half the job done lol. For the rest of you guys, here's the picture of the "Creda Concorde" Model No: 17003. Thought it would be nice to add to the collection, thanks to Brandon for sharing the link with us! Kool Matt, so this was the machine you was describing to us?

Post# 591754 , Reply# 42   4/24/2012 at 05:23 (1,826 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Creda Debonair 11800...

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I have also included the "Creda Debonair" Model No: 11800...

Post# 591760 , Reply# 43   4/24/2012 at 06:56 (1,826 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Debonair

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I often look through the old Hotpoint & Hoover online old User manuals, it makes for great bedtime reading material plus that Creda 11800 has the classic rhythm spin too.

Post# 591814 , Reply# 44   4/24/2012 at 13:41 (1,826 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        
classic rhythm spin

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what was the "classic rhythm spin" was it like the old hotpoints?

Actually, I've wondered, did the old Electra machines, such as the ones Electron1100 posted (Electronic Deluxe 1200) did they spin like the hotpoint 95XX series? And with the same start up sound (that "woooorrrrraaaaah") sound.

Sorry if I sound a little off my head describing the Hotpoint spin sound!

Brandon


Post# 591836 , Reply# 45   4/24/2012 at 15:00 (1,826 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Rhythm spin

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It's really very hard to explain because it had a unique spin start up sound unlike any other washer that i've ever heard before. I must have been about six years of age when our mam & dad purchased it from our local Norweb electric shop & that sound is as clear today in my head as it was from all them years back, put it this way our neighbours always knew when our Ti Creda washer was on.

Post# 592039 , Reply# 46   4/25/2012 at 11:30 (1,825 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        
Creda De luxe's

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This has probably been noted out before, but I seem to notice that those old Creda/Electra square-doors look like Hoover Electrons like the A3350!

Wow, was it really that loud? Must've been like when my Hotpoint Ultima Extra WMA64 would spin at 1400RPM (top speed) with a dangerously unbalanced load!


Post# 592045 , Reply# 47   4/25/2012 at 12:01 (1,825 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

i know what you mean about the old hotpoints when they set off spinning,i can still hear it now,

we had an 800 spin Hotpoint from 1986-95,cant remember the model,

I can still hear the sound of my Nanna G's Electra 11500 when it started to drain and distribute,i used to be facsinated by the fact that it spun anti clockwise,and a chrome door compared the chunky door of our hottie,

my nan used to say i was washer mad,i'd always be sat at the kitchen table when i went to visit if the washer was on,
And now i'm gonna shut up,cos all this reminiscing about my Nan is getting me a bit choked up.


Neil x


Post# 592079 , Reply# 48   4/25/2012 at 14:31 (1,825 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        

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Hi Neil! Yeah! That sound was the best washer sound ever, that was like me, I usually would go to my nans to chat, but instead would end up sitting on a chair in front of her 9517! Wish she never got rid of it, well my Dad gave it to one of his army mates and it got replaced by my old First Edition WM51!

Sorry to ask this, but did your nan pass away? Sorry, i don't mean anything bad, it's just my Grandad passed away as well, about 2 1/2 months ago. (R.I.P) X.
Anyway, I've never seen an Electra 11500, would love to see one, especially in action, and maybe a Creda Concorde, SupaSpeed and all sorts of others and a Hotpoint 95452/95450!

Thanks! And take care Neil!

Brandon


Post# 592093 , Reply# 49   4/25/2012 at 15:21 (1,825 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

Hey Brandon, the photo in reply 12 is the Electra 11500 with the black/silver facia and orange buttons,

And yeah,my Nanna G passed away 3 years ago,it doesn't feel like it 3 years,it was a lively household back in the day,and some great memories!! if only the walls could talk eh lol,

Seeing pics of the electra takes me right back to my childhood,

My Nanna B used to babysit us on an occasional saturday night and she used to have a washload ready for when i got there,Everytime i hear the casualty theme tune i can picture her Hoover Electronic 1100 and smell the Surf automatic she always used,
it's funny how things like that can trigger off things from your past

Sorry to hear about your Grandad's passing

Neil


Post# 592105 , Reply# 50   4/25/2012 at 16:09 (1,825 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Now, I've not seen one of these in YEARS!! We had one from 93-95. Horrid machine. Constant repairs, poorly built, loud. Mum got sick of it after 2 years and went back to Zanussi.

Post# 592140 , Reply# 51   4/25/2012 at 19:24 (1,824 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Creda

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Well hass,

Thanks for starting this Creda thread. Without a doubt Creda was & still is a very much loved & trusted favorite UK brand name especially for Tumble dryers, Washers & Cookers & Creda Plan Built in Ovens & Hobs. Shame on you Indesit Company for dropping such a well known UK brand name.


Post# 592247 , Reply# 52   4/26/2012 at 05:25 (1,824 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Creda Concorde...

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Hey all, nice to see this thread is still going and sharing your stories. Sorry to hear about you losing your Nan and granddad Neil, Brandon, and nice to hear you have some fond memories.

To my memory Hotpoint washers, were always loud whilst spinning and generically loud machines. Optima, it's a pleasure mate, it's certainly been a learning curve for some of us. And who knows guys maybe one day we'll all get to see the Creda Concorde in action, as well as others.

Hass.


Post# 592316 , Reply# 53   4/26/2012 at 10:42 (1,824 days old) by HotpointFan (United Kingdom)        
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My nan had one of them in reply 17 minus the 3rd dial, she put it in the garage when she moved house in late 1989, because a Hotpoint 95630 came with the house. I believe that the Creda was 1000 spin instead of 1100.

The Creda at this point was leant to one of my uncles which was a few years before a Hoover Ecologic was purchased to replace it. The Creda went back to nans.

By 1996 the Creda was again at the same uncles, the Logic had broken, repairman not come out at this point, the Hotpoint 95630 popped its clogs, so my nan bought her Hotpoint WM41 Microprofile.

My uncle gave my nan back her Creda, which was put in the garage where it stood, plumbed in, for times when there was lots of bedding, perhaps relatives where staying, or when all the house bedding was being changed. Between our Hotpoint and Hoover we went a few times to use it for our washing.

When the Hotpoint WM41 died in late December 2009, the Creda went in the kitchen for two weeks over the Christmas holidays, until a new machine was purchased after the holidays. In that time several relatives (my nan has six children!) came and stayed overnight, so the Creda was running for quite a bit.

On the 10th of January 2010 the Bosch Maxx 5 1400 WAA28161GB/07 was purchased. The Creda then remained in the kitchen for a week, waiting for its fate, I wouldn't have let it go if it would have been scrapped. But I needn't have worried, as my cousin got it for his first house, which is working for him well now up in Aberdeen.

When I had my Dyson CR01 briefly I leant it to my nan for when I changed the seal on the Bosch (was clogged up with liquitab gunk), but it went to the local appliance shop which I got 200 for the Dyson.

She now has just the Bosch, no spare.

Sorry for the long post, thanks for reading.

Jacob

P.S: Good look on the mission Hass!


Post# 592454 , Reply# 54   4/27/2012 at 07:11 (1,823 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Jacob...

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Looks like your family got some good use out of the Creda then :) thanks for sharing us you story!



Post# 592521 , Reply# 55   4/27/2012 at 14:42 (1,823 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        

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Hi Neil, it's ok, to me though, it feels longer than 2 1/2 months for my Grandad.
Funny, you saying about things triggering off things from the past, when i'm at my nan's house sometimes I still think I can hear the sound of her 9517 or an old Hotpoint 95,97, 99 series washer or 18 series launching into spin, I can remember when she lived in her old house, I never wanted to go to the bathroom alone when it was on, because I can remember, my nan always washed bedding and towels together, but with an uneven number of towels and I can remember the "sinister" sound of it unbalanced on distribute and the way the machine would slightly move left and right and then it didn't jump like a normal washer, it would jump like 10 feet forwards and those houses were only built for top-loading washers. But I miss it so much, I still remember the day it was washing 2 body towels, and it was just about to distrbute, and I turned the timer knob to the "800" portion and my god, I rmemeber how much it jumped out, and it tore the lino as well, but my nan and grandad never minded me doing that! Anyway enough me rambling on!

Brandon.

Would love to have seen an Electra 11500!


Post# 592522 , Reply# 56   4/27/2012 at 14:56 (1,823 days old) by HotpointFan (United Kingdom)        
Hass

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Oh yes, definately - pass the washing machine, never mind pass the parcel :-)

Post# 592910 , Reply# 57   4/29/2012 at 16:47 (1,821 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

when my mum and dad first bought the hotpoint,i used to run upstairs and hide in my room before it spun,the sound frightened me to death at 6 years old,but both my nan's washers never bothered me,i could sit infront of the electra and the hoover but i wouldn't go near the kitchen when the hotpoint was on at home,i did get used to it though,must have been because it was new and i wasn't used to the sound of the spinner lol

Post# 593107 , Reply# 58   4/30/2012 at 11:00 (1,820 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        

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Hi Neil! I was so like you when I was about 4, when my nan lived in Kensington, the house she lived in wasn't really built for front-loading washers, so she had a Hotpoint Electronic 800 Plus 9517W (probably mentioned it before), but her being herself, always washed towels and bathmats, but when the machine would distribute, the items would cling to one side of the drum and I could tell you, the sound of the unbalanced loads distributing was sinister! And I can still remember the sound of the machine jumping into spin, I would always run into the bedroom and hide under the covers and I can remember when I hid, and the machine would spin, the loud THUD of the machine jumping about 5 feet across the bathroom, but I eventually got used to it, I mean, I still was a bit scared of the spin sound, but I loved the bit when it would zoom straight up to 800/1000 (depending on model) and how violently the washer would vibrate and sudslock!

Brandon


Post# 593341 , Reply# 59   5/1/2012 at 09:40 (1,819 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

aye,they liked to let the neighbors know when they were on those hotpoints lol

Post# 593432 , Reply# 60   5/1/2012 at 14:41 (1,819 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        
neighbours

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Lol, yeah imagine *knock on door* *opens door to find furious next door neighbour* "Hi can I help you?" Neighbour- "I have been trying to sleep, and all I can hear is the sound of your Hotpoint 95622 when it ramps up to spin, please don't use it so often!" Me- "well, it's a classic machine, and 2nd I have to do my laundry!"

Lol, can you imagine if someone complained and actually said that!?


Post# 593447 , Reply# 61   5/1/2012 at 15:32 (1,819 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

ha ha,don't do any washing after 11pm lol


Post# 593487 , Reply# 62   5/1/2012 at 18:17 (1,818 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        

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hehe, loving the latest comments, especially the disturbing the neighbours scenario lol :)

Post# 593710 , Reply# 63   5/2/2012 at 15:32 (1,818 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        

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Lol, it would be funny if that really happened in the neighbourhood, or the new law was that anyone with a Hotpoint 95, 97, 99 or 18 series washing machine are not allowed to use their machines past 22:00, but those with Hoover Visions, LG Direct Drives and Zanussi Electrolux washing machines are allowed to use them past 22:00!

I would do anything to have a Hotpoint Liberator, Microtronic X2000 or an Inglis front loader in my kitchen!


Post# 593718 , Reply# 64   5/2/2012 at 16:08 (1,818 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Creda Based Dedietrich 1150 Washer Dryer

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Hi,

I noticed this thread, & thought I'd share some pics of my Aunt's Dedietrich 1150 Washer Dryer.

Having looked at some of the pics posted above, it looks like this Dedietrich Washer Dryer was either based off, or created by Creda, but badged Dedietrich.

I've no idea of the actual model number. It looks very much like the dryer Electron1100 posted above.

CJ


Post# 593719 , Reply# 65   5/2/2012 at 16:13 (1,818 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
The Drum

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The drum of the Dedietrich.

Post# 593720 , Reply# 66   5/2/2012 at 16:15 (1,818 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
With The Door Open

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The machine wih inner/outer door open.

Post# 593722 , Reply# 67   5/2/2012 at 16:16 (1,818 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Both Doors Closed

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The machine wih inner/outer door closed.

Post# 593723 , Reply# 68   5/2/2012 at 16:18 (1,818 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
The Control Knobs

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The two control knobs. Right = Wash, Left = Drying.

Post# 593725 , Reply# 69   5/2/2012 at 16:28 (1,818 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Pics

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I apologize for the slightly burry pics, I took them in a hurry.

My Aunt's got two of these Dedietrich Washer Dryers, one of them leaked it's drum of a rinse cycle's water contents onto the kitchen floor. It's many years ago when this occurred, I remember the agitation style, but not the spin dry phase, or the drying agitation style.

A close up of the drum interior.


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Post# 593731 , Reply# 70   5/2/2012 at 16:38 (1,818 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Inner Door

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A shot of the outer door, closed.

Post# 593741 , Reply# 71   5/2/2012 at 17:28 (1,818 days old) by brummybear (Birmingham uk)        
Hotpoint.

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Hotpoint, Creda, Electra etal are all Hotpoint machines made in the same factory in Wales ( now gone! ) I Was there on a day trip from school some 30 odd years ago.

Post# 593933 , Reply# 72   5/3/2012 at 13:38 (1,817 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

I thought Creda was part of Jackson/Tube Investments all those years ago before Hotpoint started making their machines,Hence the Creda style drum and the chrome doors


Neil


Post# 593995 , Reply# 73   5/3/2012 at 17:02 (1,817 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        
Hotpoint Factory

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In October 2008, my uncle actually drove up to the Hotpoint Factory as he lives in Rhyl, which is a few miles from Kinmel Park, where Hotpoint used to be, and sadly they wouldn't let me in, even after telling them i was crazy over washing machines, however, somthing did catch my eye in the showroom.

Basically it must've been either a Hotpoint WD63, WD61 or WM64, but it was in Satin Aluminium, have Hotpoint ever sold any of those models (Aquarius) in Satin Aluminium? I know the WD73 was sold in Satin Aluminium, but I don't know of any of the other machines.....

I'm not going to hijack the thread, but if anyone has any information on that, please let me know, may have been a prototype....

Brandon.


Post# 594014 , Reply# 74   5/3/2012 at 18:09 (1,816 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Brandon...

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This is a open thread feel free to say what you wish :)

Post# 594023 , Reply# 75   5/3/2012 at 19:00 (1,816 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Satin aluminium

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Well yes most of the high end WM6 Aquarius & the Ultima WM7 series machines were available in the satin aluminimum colours. Not really a colour that i like much, it's on the Indesit silver range also on the Hotpoint RFA52S & CA55S Silver Fridge Freezers.

Post# 594231 , Reply# 76   5/4/2012 at 17:56 (1,815 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        

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Hi Hass! Yeah, just that I didn't want the subject to suddenly change from the thread topic, :)

Optima, I think the WDM73 is availabe in satin aluminum, but as for the WM6X range, never seen that before, wonder if any First Edition's were available in that? Probably not. lol

From your picture, I'm guessing that's a Hotpoint WM12 or WM31? I might be wrong.


Post# 594233 , Reply# 77   5/4/2012 at 18:10 (1,815 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        
Creda Style Electra Electronic De Luxe

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The washer in Reply 13, does that machine spin the same way as old Hotpoints, it sounds like they spin like the Hotpoint 18580 and 18680, I know that Creda have a model exactly the same, there was a video on YouTube, can't remember who it was by, but in the video was a Hotpoint Aquarius WD64 and a Creda SupaSpeed, I think it was a 17029, can't seem to find it as the video name was a load of random numbers.

but if anyone knows the spin sequence/style of that Electra, please let me know

Brandon.


Post# 594236 , Reply# 78   5/4/2012 at 18:13 (1,815 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Brandon...

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Well if your referring to a machine, which may be similar to "Creda or Electra" then thats ok. Long as we don't steer away from the intended subject :)

BTW, forgot to say thanks for sharing the pics with us CJ. Not heard or seen these machines before, and has some Creda/Electra elements doesn't it.


Post# 594243 , Reply# 79   5/4/2012 at 18:36 (1,815 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Hotpoint

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Brandon,

My Washer is an excellent WM22A Aquarius


Post# 594339 , Reply# 80   5/5/2012 at 04:22 (1,815 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda UK

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Was a stand alone company from the 1930`s making cookers and fires at their Blythe Bridge factory in Staffs, then introduded the "First and Best" spin dryer in the UK, The Creda Debonair in the 1950`s, then following the famous Reversomat tumble dryers in the 1960`s and then front loading washing machines in the 1970`s, it was one of the best Laundry Companies we had until they merged with Hotpoint in the 1990`s...

Here is the first generation of washing machines and styles, (courtesy of "The Library of Paul") the square door was introduced before Hoover started using it!!




Post# 594340 , Reply# 81   5/5/2012 at 04:27 (1,815 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Style Change

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The next style change was in the early 1980`s and introduction of the "Round door Series", very smart clear fascias with simple programming...



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Post# 594341 , Reply# 82   5/5/2012 at 04:32 (1,815 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
10700 Series from Creda

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These washers where really great inside, large motors (AEG), 3 cast weights placed strategically around the drum, the drum baffles pressed and formed from one piece of steel, strong suspension legs etc....I wonder who that headline is aimed at - Naughty Creda...Lol

Post# 594344 , Reply# 83   5/5/2012 at 04:45 (1,815 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Serries 3

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Styling Change for the "Concords"

Post# 594345 , Reply# 84   5/5/2012 at 04:48 (1,815 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Heres Some

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pics of the Electra Creda 11500 - smart machine!!


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Post# 594347 , Reply# 85   5/5/2012 at 04:53 (1,815 days old) by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        

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The Creda dryers (especially the compact models) were very popular overhere. The washing machines however never made it to the Netherlands, except for one demonstration model at the electricity company. They had a series 3 washing machine on display with a matching dryer. I never, ever saw a Creda washing machine in a store here though. I wondered why the electricity company got one. I have to add that I never saw a series 3 dryer in a store here either.

Post# 594427 , Reply# 86   5/5/2012 at 16:32 (1,815 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

some great posts there Mike,quite an interesting read how the creda's were built


Neil


Post# 594477 , Reply# 87   5/5/2012 at 22:53 (1,814 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        
Creda Concorde

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Wow, that Creda 17003 is a really nice machine!

Optima, I love the WM22, especially in Spring Almond! Does that machine have an Unbalanced Load Protection System? I've always wondered what was the 1st machine Hotpoint added a ULPS (Unbalanced Load Protection System) on?

The same goes for Creda and Electra. I wonder if anyone on this site has one of those square door Creda/Electras? Would be great if someone did!

Mike, love your 11500, and your A3008, 1842 and many more! Nice to see that some classic washers are in good hands!

Brandon


Post# 594523 , Reply# 88   5/6/2012 at 06:57 (1,814 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
WM22 Aquarius

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Brandon,

My WM22 washer must have been one of the first machines out of the factory because basically it works just like a 95 series washer but with a few differences, it has the old style timer & module without the balance control yet some WM22's had the microprocessor controlled timers.


Post# 594537 , Reply# 89   5/6/2012 at 08:46 (1,814 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Mike...

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What a fantastic insight to the Creda History, thanks for sharing the info and pics with us! And to find out that Creda were a reliable brand for it's day is pleasing to hear, (well before they merged with Hotpoint)

Post# 594538 , Reply# 90   5/6/2012 at 09:16 (1,814 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda

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Louis, yes those Creda Dryers where the mainstay of the company for laundry until the 70`s washers came along, they are so simple and very efficient and looks like sold in many places worldwide....was it badged a creda or your own electricity board model?



Post# 594539 , Reply# 91   5/6/2012 at 09:21 (1,814 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda Micron

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Neil, I often think it was a company overlooked, and if you asked me in my lifetime I would rate the laundry companies in the UK as:

Servis
Creda
Hotpoint
Hoover


Post# 594540 , Reply# 92   5/6/2012 at 09:29 (1,814 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda Concorde

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Brandon, thanks for the complements, yes a lot of us have great machines, we are busy finding ways of building a laundry museum, I would love to see us all there one day!!




Post# 594541 , Reply# 93   5/6/2012 at 09:36 (1,814 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda Launderair

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Hello Hass, yes another Great British institution gone to the wall, heres the first machines badged with the Parnall Merger...

Post# 594543 , Reply# 94   5/6/2012 at 09:40 (1,814 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda UK

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Hi Craig, Heres an add I think you will see the funny side of - However, the pathos of this add is that "They Finally Got Their Own Back" - didnt they!!!

Post# 594545 , Reply# 95   5/6/2012 at 09:54 (1,814 days old) by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        
Mike

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Those Series 3 (Concords) were badged Creda, I don't think the electricity company had their own brand.

BTW, that twin set is gorgeous!!!


Post# 594547 , Reply# 96   5/6/2012 at 10:01 (1,814 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Dont Forget..

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We have this excellent thread produced by MatchboxPaul last year, covering Creda as well...Thanks Paul, I know how much it takes to scan organise & publish stuff!!



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Post# 594550 , Reply# 97   5/6/2012 at 10:38 (1,814 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda Series three

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Oops me type to fast - thanks Louis, just jogged my memory with your post, the Series 3 where the "Microns" also Debonair Supertrons along with the Concorde...





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Post# 594552 , Reply# 98   5/6/2012 at 10:43 (1,814 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
I salute you guys...

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More fab pic's Mike!!! Loving it and nice to see the start of Creda, ie Creda introducing the Twin Set Ad. They're all great, I/we appreciate the time and effort you guys put into these threads Mike, and of course it was Paul's Creda thread that instigated me to do an update, because there is so much more to learn about this company.

Post# 594572 , Reply# 99   5/6/2012 at 12:56 (1,814 days old) by foraloysius (Groningen, the Netherlands)        

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You're welcome Mike!

I remember that set, but not sure of the details. Was the spinspeed 800rpm? I guess they were energy efficient?


Post# 594672 , Reply# 100   5/6/2012 at 18:50 (1,813 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Creda

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Well Mike

Here it is that so badly missed & loved classic Ti Creda Washer missing from the picture.


Post# 594674 , Reply# 101   5/6/2012 at 18:59 (1,813 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Scans

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Oh & Paul & Mike thank you both so much for sharing these truly wonderful Creda pictures. It means so much to me.

Post# 594812 , Reply# 102   5/7/2012 at 08:40 (1,813 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        

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Love that Creda Micron! Didn't know they did a top-loader (the twinset).

Mike, wow, imagine if everyone merged their collections together, that'd be some massive museum!

Optima, the WM22 sounds like an interesting machine! I noticed it must have a 95 series motor as the WM20 and some models before don't make that "startup" spin sound!

From my understanding, the Creda Excel range, were not only clones of Hotpoints WMXX range but I'm guessing they had the same motors, and the same for the ones that looked like the WMA range?


Post# 594813 , Reply# 103   5/7/2012 at 08:41 (1,813 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        
Creda 800RPM

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Also, did Creda make any 800RPM machines, but with Hotpoint GEC motors?

Post# 594863 , Reply# 104   5/7/2012 at 13:59 (1,813 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

yeah i agree mike,i think creda machines were definitley overlooked,every household i knew seemed to have a hotpoint or a hoover machine,with the odd one having an indesit or a servis, My Nan had the electra and my best mates mum had the Creda crusader,
Was there a big price difference in the machines where it meant a creda was a tad more expensive than hotpoint and hoover?

Neil


Post# 595237 , Reply# 105   5/9/2012 at 07:15 (1,811 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Electra Asciugabiancheria

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Currently on Ebay UK, an Electra Tumble Dryer, has 05 bids, @ 20. Has 02 hrs 43 mins left.

Thought I'd add it to the thread, as it's focused on Creda/Electra etc.

BTW. My ex-school had an Electra 05KG 1100 AutoWasher AWM1100, before it was replaced with a Hotpoint 01st Edition 5.5KG 1300 AutoWasher.
I was given the user manual to the Electra, before I left, about 10 years ago, if anyone would like a copy of the pic of the controls, let me know.

CJ



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Post# 595239 , Reply# 106   5/9/2012 at 07:21 (1,811 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Compact Electra Seche Linge

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Currently on Ebay UK, an Electra Tumble Dryer, 03KG, vented, model 286.

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Post# 595241 , Reply# 107   5/9/2012 at 07:24 (1,811 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Electra Abluff Waschetrockner

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Currently on Ebay UK, an Electra SensAir 05KG vented Tumble Dryer.

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Post# 595253 , Reply# 108   5/9/2012 at 08:57 (1,811 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Creda Auctions

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Miscellaneous Creda/Electra/Crusader Auctions.

Creda Simplicity 05KG Tumble Dryer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CREDA-SIMPLICI...

Creda Simplicity TVR2 Tumble Dryer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Creda-Simplici...

Creda DebonAir ReversAir Tumble Dryer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CREDA-tumble-d...

Creda Tumble Dryer T522VW
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/creda-tumble-d...

Electra Tumble Dryer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dryer-/2610172...

Creda Simplicity condenser Tumble Dryer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Tumble-Dryer-/...

Creda ReversAir Tumble Dryer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Creda-Reversai...

Creda ReversAir Energy Series Tumble Dryer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CREDA-REVERSAI...

Creda condenser Tumble Dryer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Creda-TCR2-Con...

Creda SensaDry Tumble Dryer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CREDA-TUMBLE-D...

Creda First Choice condenser Tumble Dryer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Creda-First-Ch...

Creda Tumble Dryer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Creda-Tumble-D...

Creda ReversAir Tumble Dryer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Creda-ReverseA...

Creda Simplicity condenser Tumble Dryer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Creda-Simplici...

Creda Simplicity Tumble Dryer
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CREDA-SIMPLICI...

Creda ReversAir Tumble Dryer > Chrome door type, model 37405
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CREDA-TUMBLE-D...

Sorry bout not pasting all in seperately, couldn't bothered with the faff.


Post# 595256 , Reply# 109   5/9/2012 at 08:59 (1,811 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Creda Spin Dryer Drum

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The spin dryer drum.

Post# 595280 , Reply# 110   5/9/2012 at 11:37 (1,811 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        
hooverzanmiele

erm,what were you doing in my mums kitchen taking a photo of her washer????? lol,

Post# 595282 , Reply# 111   5/9/2012 at 12:32 (1,811 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
I teleported!

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Which machine're you referring to? That makes you think I be in yer kitchen?

Post# 595297 , Reply# 112   5/9/2012 at 13:54 (1,811 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        
reply 105

the hotpoint first edition pic you've posted,that's my mums house lol

Post# 595766 , Reply# 113   5/11/2012 at 14:06 (1,809 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        
Hotpoint First Edition

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CJ, that First Edition is quite a nice machine! I remember the old model of that machine, I remember the blue oval above the timer knob with the RPM written in it. I was wondering, was there a difference between the FEWXX range and the WMAXX range? (EG WMA22).

Thanks!

Brandon

PIC: WMA22


Post# 595771 , Reply# 114   5/11/2012 at 14:22 (1,809 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

just a new hotpoint logo brandon,that's about it

Post# 595796 , Reply# 115   5/11/2012 at 16:41 (1,809 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        

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Oh thanks CJ! Here's something that baffles me, was/is it possible to fit Hotpoint 95XX parts to Creda 17XXX models (E.G. Hotpoint 9528 Timer knob on a Creda 17028?) Because on the websites, the part that is for a Creda washing machine is listed as Creda/Hotpoint.

Thanks! And it's nice to see that this thread is still going after about 105 replies! Let's keep it going! :)

Brandon


Post# 596117 , Reply# 116   5/13/2012 at 08:43 (1,807 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

it's getting difficult to keep it going now lol,we keep steering off topic too :)


Post# 596133 , Reply# 117   5/13/2012 at 11:53 (1,807 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        

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lol, too right! Well at least we have all learnt some very interesting things about Creda and its history, to be honest, I never knew so much about Creda up until this thread was created!

Thanks all for a very interesting thread!

Brandon


Post# 596143 , Reply# 118   5/13/2012 at 13:06 (1,807 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

yeah,i really wish we'd have owned one back in the day

Post# 596191 , Reply# 119   5/13/2012 at 16:02 (1,807 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
creda compact

Hi Guys

Was given this creda dryer yesterday, just needs a belt and some cleaning up.

mathew


Post# 596194 , Reply# 120   5/13/2012 at 16:04 (1,807 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
Close up

creda reversair

Post# 596195 , Reply# 121   5/13/2012 at 16:07 (1,807 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Hotpoint/Creda Spare Parts

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Hi Brandon.

As far as parts're concerned, I;ve no idea if what you asked above would be possible, it wouldn't hurt for you to try, but obviously, no guarantees.

It may be more possible for a simple timer knob change, to work, whereas my thoughts for a board change, would probably be more complicated, if not impossible.

Sorry I'm not much help on this point, you may be better off querying Paul, (Matchbox Paul), on this, as he's done more repairs on varrious machines, plus he's got the knack for digging out the production/marketing years, & age of machines for different models, E.G. my Hoover Logic Premier 1250 Washer Dryer A8576, was a Currys special edition, produced & marketed from October 1990.

CJ


Post# 596198 , Reply# 122   5/13/2012 at 16:11 (1,807 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
would have matched

this washer from the same time, I had this a couple of years ago and sold it to a friend of mine.

Post# 596199 , Reply# 123   5/13/2012 at 16:12 (1,807 days old) by keymatic3203 (Cardiff UK)        
close

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Post# 596201 , Reply# 124   5/13/2012 at 16:15 (1,807 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
01st Edit

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ElectraDeluxe,

Sorry, didn't realise it was your kitchen/machine, I din't intend any offence, I only used that pic as an example.
The 01st Edition I was intentionally outlining, that we had at my school, a 1300RPM model, had the door like in the pic below, with the controls fascia like on yours.

CJ


Post# 596208 , Reply# 125   5/13/2012 at 16:39 (1,807 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
Supaspeed

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& here is my electra version Supaspeed 1200

Post# 596218 , Reply# 126   5/13/2012 at 17:01 (1,807 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        

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CJ

I think the Washing machine that you had at school was maybe a Hotpoint WMT03 Special Edition.


Post# 596219 , Reply# 127   5/13/2012 at 17:02 (1,807 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

it's ok mate,i don't mind you using the photo,i was just surprised when it popped up lol

Post# 596356 , Reply# 128   5/14/2012 at 04:28 (1,806 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
In The Later Years

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Pehaps Creda was starting to be overlooked with regards to Hotpoint, BUT you cannot fault that a "Creda Appliance" would have been in nearly every home after the war, from Carefree Cooker, Corvette Water Heater, Creda Debonair Spin Dryer (Britains First & Best), Calypso and Capri Fires & Room Warmers etc.....and they where radically ahead of Homemaking offering the 60`s housewife a colour co-ordinated range of kitchen appliances - so Creda was well ahead of the game in technology and the use of the colour palette!!!



Post# 596359 , Reply# 129   5/14/2012 at 06:03 (1,806 days old) by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
And

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The First Home Laundry Appliance from Creda was the Debonair Spin Dryer which revolutionised washday in the UK, many fabrics could be ironed straight for the drum spinning at 2,800rpm and thicker towels & linens could be dry in hours instead of days from a wooden mangle!!



CLICK HERE TO GO TO chestermikeuk's LINK


Post# 596443 , Reply# 130   5/14/2012 at 12:34 (1,806 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

Auntie Edie next door had a creda spin dryer,her electron only had an 800 spin so she used it for towels and bedding and other bulky items

Post# 596492 , Reply# 131   5/14/2012 at 14:35 (1,806 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        

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Loving that Creda 1000 SupaSpeed and Electra 1200 Electronic! As for the parts, it may have been a typo on the website or a mistake, I think that you can use a Creda motor in a Hotpoint and vice versa, but about exterior parts, the doors can only be used for the Excel 1200 and WMA style machines!

Thanks all!


Post# 596618 , Reply# 132   5/15/2012 at 07:25 (1,805 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

i knew someone who had the supaspeed 1000 in brown,never saw it in action though

Post# 596656 , Reply# 133   5/15/2012 at 10:10 (1,805 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        
brown credas

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could you also get almond Creda's like the hotpoint 95 series? I bet that'd look brilliant for a creda, also did Creda ever do a model like the Hotpoint WM54, WM53 etc, I know Jackson did the J1000, but I only know Creda did the W120VW model.

Post# 596657 , Reply# 134   5/15/2012 at 10:27 (1,805 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

i never saw an almond model,just brown/white

Post# 596979 , Reply# 135   5/17/2012 at 01:14 (1,803 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        
Hotpoint WMT03

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optima, the WMT03 was a 1400 model, I think the one you're referring to is the WMT05, I'm guessing those models were a cheap version of the First Edition range, along with the WMA5, 1000rpm. Or it could've been the WMA13, 1300 First Edition.

Neil, I think the closest to almond I've seen was the Electra Deluxe 1200, which was posted near the beginning of the forum in Reply 2, but it could be just because of the poor lighting. Oh, how I'd love to just go back and time and raid a showroom full of Creda Microns, Concordes you name it.



Post# 596988 , Reply# 136   5/17/2012 at 03:00 (1,803 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
First Edit

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Yes i forgot about the WMA13 First Edition so i guess it could have been that one!

Post# 597107 , Reply# 137   5/17/2012 at 16:38 (1,803 days old) by CandyD10_14X (London)        

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My old neighbour (R.I.P) owned a Hotpoint WMT03, used to love putting my ears to the wall whenever it hit 1400, loved the sounds of the WMA, WMT ranges on 1400RPM.

Post# 597110 , Reply# 138   5/17/2012 at 17:03 (1,803 days old) by optima (Cumbria England)        
WMA series

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I don't know why but i was never ever attracted to the next generation WMA models, they never did it for me.

Post# 597111 , Reply# 139   5/17/2012 at 17:03 (1,803 days old) by hooverzanmiele (Scunthorpe, UK)        
Back to Creda

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Here's an old Creda Dryer, matches the AutoWasher near the start of the thread.

CLICK HERE TO GO TO hooverzanmiele's LINK on eBay


Post# 598022 , Reply# 140   5/21/2012 at 15:49 (1,799 days old) by electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

my sister in law had that dryer in her garage,it's gone now so i'm assuming it was knackered lol


Post# 898067 , Reply# 141   9/10/2016 at 05:00 (226 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Creda Updates...

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Hi all just updating this thread adding further pictures of the wonderful and rare machines CREDA!

The 70s, Creda Electronic de Luxe washing machine... Find out more about these machine on Paul's amazing thread along with other Creda bonzanas, the link is provided below.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO thelaundrylab's LINK




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Post# 898068 , Reply# 142   9/10/2016 at 05:04 (226 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Screen grab from Persil advert!

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Creda Electronic Super de Luxe washing machine...



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Post# 898069 , Reply# 143   9/10/2016 at 05:24 (226 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Creda Tumble Dryers...

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Post# 898070 , Reply# 144   9/10/2016 at 05:25 (226 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Creda Tumble Dryers...

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Post# 898072 , Reply# 145   9/10/2016 at 05:29 (226 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Creda Duo!

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Creda One Thousand washing machine & the Creda Reverseair tumble dryer.



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Post# 898073 , Reply# 146   9/10/2016 at 05:38 (226 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Creda Supaspeeds!

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The Creda Supaspeeds series started emerging from around 1987... and the last series of Creda machines before Creda finally merged with Hotpoint in the mid 90s. Here is the Creda 1000 Supaspeed.



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Post# 898074 , Reply# 147   9/10/2016 at 05:44 (226 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Creda 1150...

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Thanks to Mike for sharing this great picture of the Creda 1150 Supaspeed! Thought it was appropriate to add it to this thread for reference.

Post# 898075 , Reply# 148   9/10/2016 at 05:50 (226 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Creda Autodry...

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Until more pictures come up the pipeline, that's it for now and I shall end the last picture of the Creda Autodry tumble dryer.

Post# 898076 , Reply# 149   9/10/2016 at 06:17 (226 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Creda memorabilia!

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I almost forgot... I am proud to present this Creda memorabilia I brought! Creda released a compilation album when they sold their millionth tumble dryers during the 70s as part of the companies celebration and clever marketing. The brochure was produced in 1977 which lives inside the record sleeve.

Post# 898108 , Reply# 150   9/10/2016 at 11:08 (226 days old) by candyd10_14x (London)        
Creda 1970s

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Hey Hass!!

Thank you for bringing this thread back! Since I last posted on here I managed to save a Creda 275 from a neighbours garden and I also thought I'd share this story that I'm sure many won't believe me on...

I rmemeber I think matchboxpaul saying no one has seen a square door Creda in the 2000s or so...well back in 2010, I was 13 at a car boot sale in Rhyl, North Wales near Colwyn Bay. In the back of this van was I think a dishwasher and then at the time what I assumed was a Hoover A3110, upon closer inspection I saw the CREDA badge at thought "oh, I didn't know Creda did square doors like Hoover." it was sold. It wasn't until 4 years later when I read through the thread had I realised what I had seen!! It was a 10500 Super De Luxe Electronic model because I remember it had 2 knobs on it.....hope to God it's still surviving and maybe one day it'll surface on eBay....ohhhh the gruelling pain!!!

Well thank you for the pictures, do you have any on the Creda Debonair Microns with the slanted facia or from that range as I'd like to get to know a little about that 1980s range. No rush :)

Brandon.


Post# 898116 , Reply# 151   9/10/2016 at 12:47 (226 days old) by AquaCycle (West Yorkshire, UK)        

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Thanks for sharing these, Has. Creda were always an unusual brand where I lived. Lots of Creda dryers and spinners but only the odd Supaspeed dotted around. I never knew anyone with an older washer, so these are great to see

Post# 898210 , Reply# 152   9/11/2016 at 06:34 (225 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
TI Creda...

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Hello Brandon, I doubt anyone would have a reason not to believe you mate and I'm glad you got to see the 'square door' Creda. I'm sure it's on most people's bucket list of the machine 'to have' for their collection, but we shall wait patiently until it does.

As for your request, the one's I've uploaded are the current picture's that I have. I don't have much Creda Microns at the moment, but I do have the advert featuring Cliff Thorburn for the Creda Micron.

Chris... as we slowly piece together Creda's history, I think their was a pattern that may have been adopted through the years where Creda may have done better at 'Marketing & Selling' their dryers oppose to their washing machine's. They did not make many washing machine's until the mid to late 70s, which gives us an indication inside the record sleeve (70s memorabilia shown above) where Creda says;

"TI Creda are proud to present you with this album of million-seller recording artistes, as a way of thanking you for the part you have played in achieving a record of another kind. Last year you helped us to sell our one millionth tumble dryer. We believe this demonstrates in a realistic manner the importance of Creda within the home laundry market. The signs are encouraging that our policy of designing appliances to meet the needs of both retailer and customer alike is working well for another Creda product-washing machines. We look forward to celebrating the sale of the one millionth Creda washing machine on the not too distant future".

I'm wondering this could be the reason we haven't seen many Creda washing machines (especially the 70s Creda machine's) popping up the surface.




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Post# 898211 , Reply# 153   9/11/2016 at 06:49 (225 days old) by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Creda late 80s...

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Screen grab of what looks like a Creda Washer & Dryer, the start of the Supaspeed generation?

Post# 912864 , Reply# 154   12/28/2016 at 10:56 by slpj (Kent)        
Creda One Thousand Electronic washing machine. Model 10700

Hello all.

I joined this specifically to tell you about my Creda One Thousand Electronic washing machine. Model 10700.

It was bought new by me, sometime back in the mid 1980s when it first came out. It was bought from Alders in Croydon, along with the reversair rear venting dryer, and a stacking kit to mount the dryer on the washer. Both are still in use, but the dryer is now installed in an understairs cupboard with an outside wall for the vent hose. I am amazed at quite how long both have lasted, and just how reliable they have been. Although, I did buy them specifically because back in the 1980's when I researched which washer and dryer buy, TI Creda had a truly excellent reputation for quality and reliablity. So perhaps I shouldn't be surprised at how well they have lasted.

The dryer is still pretty much perfect and in regular use. Sadly though, I now do have to replace the washing machine.

The washing machine still works perfectly too. The paper masking tape you can see on the front of it, is only because the enamel paint is beginning to lift in a couple of places, and the tape stops this spreading. But unfortunately the washer now has very noisy drum bearings, and one of the shock absorbing spring units/legs has almost had it( the other side is still perfect though). I am unable to find a new/replacement shock/spring unit, and the bearing replacement I can find, is poor quality compared to an original part. I know this because I fitted a replacement bearing including rubber seal, about 3 years ago, and it simply hasn't lasted. Hence I can't keep using it indefinitely in case the bearing collapses. So I'm going to buy a new washer.

But I can't bring myself to simply scrap this washing machine.

Is there anybody out there with a genuine replacement drum bearings and seal, and perhaps a left hand side(looking from the front that is) shock/spring leg? (I've included a picture of the spring unit from a post on here).

Would anybody perhaps be interested in this machine for themselves? I see from previous posts that there are some restorers here. My 10700 is in pretty good condition apart from the above items. I still have the original user manual instructions that came with it.


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Post# 912873 , Reply# 155   12/28/2016 at 13:52 by Supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

Good evening Peter,

I've sent you an email. It would be my pleasure to restore this machine as this design with the chunky chrome door is one of my favourites! Courier on standby haha!

Kind regards,

James


Post# 912878 , Reply# 156   12/28/2016 at 15:07 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda Washer & Dryer

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Hi Peter a warm welcome to the madhouse, as you can see many of us are Creda enthusiasts through and through, a great pair of laundry appliances from the Great British Creda company of old and you have had the additional benefit of buying from a reputable last of a dying breed department store of old. Bought many of my appliances from Allders in Chester....

AS for the bearings what replacements did you use ? where they SKF bearings and seal ? or from Homespares or Qualtex etc..

We use an engineering firm that might be able to make up a gas / spring loaded strut, I will send an email to him tomorrow and let you know. If you then deceide to let the Credas go then you can be assured they will be looked after within the realms of the club !!



Post# 912889 , Reply# 157   12/28/2016 at 16:39 by slpj (Kent)        

Hi chaps, thanks for the replies and the emails.

The bearings I bought were from Amazon in 2013 by a company called Uni-fit, at a cost of about 9 quid inc postage. www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003F... There's a review on there, but it wasn't me, and now they are out of stock there anyway.

The originals were SKF.

The replacements that came as a packaged set including the seal, were NTN, and looked good quality. I actually still have the original SKFs that I took out, and would be quieter than the NTN's that replaced them, so I've toyed with putting them back in.

What I think happened to the originals, is that the seal failed and water got into the bearings, but that was after 25 plus years of use. I think the same may have happened again, but this time in only about 3 years. So perhaps it's the seal causing the problem?

But anyway, I think that even if I can get the correct bearings and a suspension strut, I might prefer to have a new washer that won't need any attention for the next 15/20 years, which may well see me out. ;) lol.

I stumbled on this site whilst searching for spares. Knowing that there really are people who conserve these is a nice thing. But I'll only be replacing the washer if I decide to do that, as a), the dryer works fine still, and b) there's sentimental value to both of them. If the washer wasn't playing up, I wouldn't consider replacing it.

I'll have a read of the emails and reply to you both.


Post# 912902 , Reply# 158   12/28/2016 at 17:46 by optima (Cumbria England)        
Creda Ti 1000

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Creda One Thousand. Never ever would i have thought i would see one again.

Post# 912960 , Reply# 159   12/29/2016 at 03:19 by slpj (Kent)        

Hello Creda TI 1000,

Yep, and it all works too, other than needing new drum bearings and a suspension leg, -- which are still just serviceable but really do need replacing. The suspension leg suffered becaue there was a water leak above it -- now fixed. I even have the original electric motor for it, that was replaced in error when the drum bearings went circa 3 years ago. I thought the noise was from the motor, so I sourced another -- new, but cheap from someone. But then found it wasn't the motor after all. Amateurs huh? lol. But anyway as a result, I have the original electric motor that could be refitted if the replacement ever fails.

Meanwhile, I've found a supply of bearings for it. Bearing boys sell them SKF 6004 and SKF6005. The seal I guess would be more of a problem to find, but I suspect that as the replacement has only been in for 3 years, it can be cleaned and re-used, if it had to be.

But I'm going to decide today if I should let someone else keep and preserve this machine. I hadn't realised that there were other people out there who not only appreciate these w/machines, but also collect and preserve them. As I don't have the space to keep it if I buy a new one, I suspect the best thing for me is to let it go to someone else. As I said, I'd hate to see it scrapped.


Post# 912995 , Reply# 160   12/29/2016 at 11:41 by thelaundrylab (Hampshire UK)        
Hello Peter...

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Welcome to the club, nice to see there are still Creda machines out there! If you do decide to replace your machine, there are a few guys here who will happily take it off your hands. With there magical hands, it could be nicely restored for others to enjoy and would be taken care off.


What ever you decide I'm sure it will be the right choice. Thanks for sharing your post with us and adding it to this thread.
Kind regards.



Post# 913031 , Reply# 161   12/29/2016 at 15:37 by slpj (Kent)        

Hi there,

Thanks for the welcome.

I've decided the best thing is to accept an offer I've been made. I'll use the Creda to do a few last washes, and then it can go to a new home. I have to confess, I never thought I'd keep it so long, and be a little sad to see it go. But a lot happier knowing that it won't end up as no more than scrap metal. And if someone brings it back to tip top condition, I'll be even happier.

I'll upload a short vid of it spinning when I can find my photobucket password.



Post# 913033 , Reply# 162   12/29/2016 at 16:03 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        

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Hi Peter.

Whoever it is who has agreed to take it on, you can rest assured it will continue to exist and no doubt be fully restored over time.

When I saw your addition to this thread (welcome by the way!) and saw it was a 10700 you own, it was a sense of 'finally, there is one out there still!'.

Thank you for joining the forum, letting us all know of its existence and giving people the opportunity to take it on, rather than handing it to the council for scrap.
Such good news.

Regards
Paul
p.s long may your 37405 Reversair continue to give good service to you but, as with the washer, when the time comes ..... give us all a nudge.


Post# 913133 , Reply# 163   12/30/2016 at 10:37 by slpj (Kent)        
Creda 1000 in action

Here's a vid of my Creda 10700 working. Still going after all these years, albeit with noisey drum bearings and in need of a suspension leg.

The link is to my photobucket account and for some reason it only seems to play back via chrome or Iinternet explorer, but not firefox.

Also, the vid came out on it's side from my Camera, and I don't know how to rotate it.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO slpj's LINK


Post# 913197 , Reply# 164   12/30/2016 at 18:22 by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

Hi Paul,

I love that official photo! I'm not keen on the blue tiled top surface but I think that blue sink is quite nice. I'm not sure many people would want to install their washer and dryer in the bathroom but I suppose some homeowners may have been forced to find whatever space they could and that was the answer. I guess Creda are probably demonstrating how they can fit in different rooms too.

PS I hope you and Rob had a lovely Christmas!

James


Post# 913198 , Reply# 165   12/30/2016 at 18:34 by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

Hi Peter,

Thank you very much for sharing a video with us. It appears to be quite healthy apart from the obvious but manageable paint flaking issue and the need for a bearing change, overall it's done very well for its age and kudos to you for looking after it with much pride!

Kind regards,

James


Post# 913254 , Reply# 166   12/31/2016 at 03:10 by slpj (Kent)        

One of my vices many people think, is that I take so much care of pretty well everything I get. When we got the Creda washer and dryer, I was pretty insistent on always cleaning it after use etc. Drove my mum nuts. lol. But on the other hand, I do tend to make things last almost forever. I'd probably be described these days as ocd. Me, I just think I'm careful with my things. Ha ha.

I'll add some more vids to my photo bucket later.

Meanwhile, while I still have it, my Creda 1000 sits next to my Creda Cachet double oven. And I have to say, this is a very good oven. The only thing that doesn't last long is the internal lamp. Other than that it's great.

But it won't look the same in there when the 1000 is gone, that's for sure. :(

So I'll have to keep looking in here to see any pics of it. :)


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Post# 913263 , Reply# 167   12/31/2016 at 05:53 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda

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Wow, a full lineup of classics Peter, those cookers where built like tanks, I got mum a Creda Solarglow slot-in in 1986 and its only just given up the ghost a few years ago after cooking daily for a family of 6 and many parties & guests!! What was the original hob you had with it ?


Hi James, I think Creda where the most innovative with their advertising of the era, most Euro houses have their laundry appliances in the bathroom / utility... Creda certainly covered all bases and pushed boundaries, mind I would have to spray that stacking kit to match ha ha..


Paul, another great Creda advertisement, was this out of the mini Kitchen / Bathroom Ideal Homes book ? love how the design of the filter is so accessible in the fascia..


Post# 913291 , Reply# 168   12/31/2016 at 10:36 by slpj (Kent)        

Nope sadly my hob is a bosch. I chose it because it's a 5 ring gas hob that sits in a 600mm gap. And I'm afraid to say, my new washing machine will be another german, a meile.

Post# 913296 , Reply# 169   12/31/2016 at 11:07 by slpj (Kent)        
Rear view Creda 1000

Still has the original hoses.


And here's a vid -- poor quality I'm afriad -- of a last rinse(into hidden bucket) before final spin, with the back off. You can really hear the bearings in this one.


CLICK HERE TO GO TO slpj's LINK


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Post# 913306 , Reply# 170   12/31/2016 at 12:36 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Original Creda

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Well after the Creda has given you the faithful service you have picked the only washing machine that will live above and beyond the Creda timeline, great choice Peter.

It looks just as interesting from the back, my Electra Creda version backplate is different, the vents reminded me of the Servis Quartz and the original hose (hopefully stays in one piece on moving} is very Hotpoint esque. Was the original motor the AEG model or the GEC version, the later motor in the video sounds very Hotpoint. Well you can e assured withyin the group it will have a good life for as many more years. Many thanks for sharing with us a piece of history Peter.


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Post# 913308 , Reply# 171   12/31/2016 at 12:47 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Creda Washer & Dryer

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Mines due a new set of bearings, looking forward to getting that done this spring..those original motors are a powerhouse in their own time, very reliable.

Post# 913345 , Reply# 172   12/31/2016 at 16:58 by slpj (Kent)        

This is a pic of the ID plate on what I thought was the original motor -- included as a spare.

I changed the original motor thinking it was responsible for the noise, before realising it was the drum bearings. But it says Hotpoint on it. I certainly don't ever remember it being changed before.

I don't have a picture of the motor that is actually on the machine now, but you may be right, it may be a hotpoint too. Did Hotpoint make most of the motors?

Unless in the mists of time, I've confused myself, and have put back the original motor, after realising it was ok after all.

I have found a note that I made about 3 years ago. I wrote -- "GEC BD6222" "W.138" "For Electronic control". "CatD 59039"

I can see now to satisfy myself, I'll have to pull the machine out and take a picture underneath it to see what the motor label is. Yup I think I'm feeling as old as the washing machine, -- my memory's going :-


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Post# 913352 , Reply# 173   12/31/2016 at 17:48 by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

Hi Mike,

Totally agree with you on Creda's innovative advertising, they seemed to take their market research very seriously and try their best to stand out from the rest. What's caught my eye is the fact that Creda offered programme 8 (silks) on all of their machines whereas most other UK manufacturers only offered this programme on their microprocessor controlled machines. Perhaps this was to allow their machines to be readily exported to markets where silks were more common as even in the 1990s a silk programme was usually reserved for more expensive machines. Thank you for posting a picture of your Electra badged Creda without the back panel, they certainly look like well planned and well engineered machines with ease of access for repairs.

Peter, thanks again for posting another video of the machine, it sounds like nothing I've heard before and I agree it sounds like it may have a GEC motor in it. GEC owned Hotpoint and manufactured the motors for their washers. However, being the large company that GEC was, they also supplied Servis with motors in the 1980s and it really wouldn't surprise me if Creda bought in motors from GEC as well as AEG depending on supplier stock levels.

James


Post# 913355 , Reply# 174   12/31/2016 at 18:11 by slpj (Kent)        

Bored with new years celebrations, I've seen it all before. LOL.

So I'll ask a couple of questions -- for someone to answer tomorrow when sober :)

In Mike's picture, there are what appear to be two water traces, coming from the arrow points I've marked in RED. The rear of the drum case looks exactly the same as mine.

When I changed the bearings circa 3 years or so ago, I noticed there were two holes at those arrow points, that go right through into the just below where the bearing seal sits. On mine, those holes were blocked up. So I left them blocked, and the bearings have since failed again.

The other day, so that I can make use of the machine until my replacement arrives, I put back old bearings, which though noisy are useable.

This time I unblocked those holes.

So the questions I have are, what are those holes for, and would they cause bearing failure if they were blocked?


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Post# 913367 , Reply# 175   12/31/2016 at 19:14 by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

Hi Peter,

Those holes are for allowing any water ingress into the bearing housing to drain out. At the best of times they don't help much at all as any water ingress usually makes its way into the bearings anyway and destroys them over time. I've noticed too that a lot of replacement bearing seals actually close off these holes.

I'm sure the One Thousand will give you good service in its final week with you.

James


Post# 913424 , Reply# 176   1/1/2017 at 04:49 by slpj (Kent)        

Thanks James. That explains it then. :)

Post# 913433 , Reply# 177   1/1/2017 at 06:08 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        
Thought it sounded a bit Hotpointy

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Hi all and happy new year!

As others have mentioned, Hotpoint provided their motors to a number of other manufacturers, as did Hoover for the matter (I think in the 70's they provided them to Servis).


The bathroom image I posted was from an interior design book and, for a while, served as one of only a handful of images of the 10700 on the internet. Since then, mainly thanks to digitised catalogues bought off ebay, there are a few more good images of this model out there ....


Post# 913434 , Reply# 178   1/1/2017 at 06:09 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        

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images of the 10800 are very rare though ....

Post# 913435 , Reply# 179   1/1/2017 at 06:11 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        

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rarer in fact than images of the fabled 12000 Microelectronic ....

Post# 913436 , Reply# 180   1/1/2017 at 06:15 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        
and in colour ....

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excuse the sheep (the image is from a Ariel wool advert) ...

Post# 913437 , Reply# 181   1/1/2017 at 06:19 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        
Back to the 10700 ....

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... (p.s the wool advert with the 12000 in was for Persil, not Ariel).

The advert below is from January 1980, right at the start of the 10700 being on sale ....


Post# 913438 , Reply# 182   1/1/2017 at 06:21 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        

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and another one ...

Post# 913439 , Reply# 183   1/1/2017 at 06:23 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        
and fnally ....

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I think the 37405 should get a look in too (again January 1980)!

All the best people - have a great New Years Day.
Paul


Post# 913448 , Reply# 184   1/1/2017 at 08:58 by slpj (Kent)        

Thanks for posting those Paul.

You've prompted a couple more questions from me.

The advert for the 10700 says "Hot and Cold fill" . I lost my installation instructions, and have never found out how to rewire it for cold fill only. It hasn't mattered much as I simply used a 'Y' piece from a cold mains feed. But can it run cold fill only by rewiring the inlet valves?

How fast did the "RS" version 10800 spin? What extra features did it have relative to the 10700?

My memory tells me we got out 10700 when it came out, or at least soon after. But memory from so long ago isn't relaiable. Did I get it in 1980, or later? We definitely had it for a number of years prior to 1987, because my mother died that year. But now my memory is playing tricks on me. Can anyone tell from my serial number, when my 10700 dates from?


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Post# 913466 , Reply# 185   1/1/2017 at 11:15 by slpj (Kent)        
Drain holes.

And here's another question about the drain holes from the bearings. Where is the water supposed to go when it runs down the back of the drum casing. Now I understand why there is a slanted 'gutter' over the motor.

Post# 913467 , Reply# 186   1/1/2017 at 11:40 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        

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Hi Peter.

Will have a go at answering your questions, though others know more details than I do. Will have a go.

Done a bit of digging re the hot and cold fill vs cold fill.
The 10700 is convertible to cold fill only and (others correct me here) its generally a case of removing a terminal connection from the hot solenoid and fixing it to the cold solenoid ..... or something like that anyway.

Don't go experimenting, based on my waffle :-)

Report from Ideal Home 1980 report, giving some details of the 10700 and its Hoover competitor - confirms as convertible to cold fill only ...


Post# 913472 , Reply# 187   1/1/2017 at 12:33 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        
10700 vs 10800

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the 10700 had the following:

> 1000rpm spin
> synthetics button (read slow spin - reduced from 1000 to 600rpm)
> economy 75 button (reduced programmes 1 and 9 from 95deg to 75deg)


the 10800 had the following:

> 'Rhythm' 1000rpm spin (spins up to 1000rpm in stages, increasing the speed in stages, with pauses in between to redistribute the load, tumbling back and forth)
> time save button (cuts out one of the rinses and deletes the 'Rhythm' spin style)
> hold button (read spin delay - final spin held off, with clothes left in water until button released)
> synthetics button (read slow spin - reduced from 1000to 600rpm)
> mains neon light
> variable temperature dial


Creda had a bit of an unusual range to be honest and were seemingly playing a different game to their competitors, in that they only had three models, all with 1000rpm spin speed.
With Creda, their machines were differentiated on options only, whereas most of the opposition also made a much bigger thing of spin speed.
Going from one of the adverts I posted earlier, methinks they were going for a bit more of a quality market slant than flooding the market with machines, but they cut themselves out of the 800rpm market and fully loaded their 'mid-range' model.

Hoover at the time had 6 front loaders .... a budget 500 machine and a budget 800 machine, followed by 2 'standard' 800 machines (feature tweaked to differentiate them), followed by 2 ' de luxe' 1100 rpm machines (one dial controlled, the other microchip controlled).
Hotpoint and many other manufacturers had a similarly expansive range.

Whether Creda's strategy was a good one .... without the figures, I can't accurately comment BUT there was certainly scope within their three machine range for a range of at least five models, with an 800rpm version of the 10700 and also a machine in-between the 10700 and 10800 - the gap between the 10700 and 10800 has always struck me as rather a big one. The 12000 would have remained top of the range.



Post# 913473 , Reply# 188   1/1/2017 at 12:35 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        

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p.s ignore the 850rpm top spin speed of the 10800 shown above. It's wrong - was deffo 1000rpm.

Post# 913477 , Reply# 189   1/1/2017 at 12:47 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        

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The weirdness of Creda's range policy is exemplified by a model shown in the page below.

Have a gander at the Electrolux WH34 - would have filled the gap between he 10700 and the 10800 perfectly.

I emphasise the word 'perfectly' because the WH34 is, quite literally, a 10800 without the variable temperature, built in Blythe Bridge by Creda (on the same production line as the 10700/10800 and 12000) for Electrolux.
The WH34 was offered as Electrolux's top of the range machine, until they jumped into bed with Zanussi.

To rub salt into the would, Electrolux then retailed the WH34 'around' 9 cheaper than the 10700!

I am sure Creda could have been so much bigger than it was. Rant over! lol.
Paul


Post# 913479 , Reply# 190   1/1/2017 at 12:53 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        

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the first page of the report, for the sake of completeness.

The Creda 10700, rrp circa 239 in 1980, is the equivalent of 924.45 in 2015 (Bank of England inflation calculator) ....


Post# 913482 , Reply# 191   1/1/2017 at 13:09 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        
Date codes of Creda

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Creda introduced a clear as crystal date on the ratings plate, a few years after your models were on sale (i.e 1186 would be written, referring to November 1986 .... see below).


With your 10700 :
Maybe '79097' .... means (19)79 ... (September)09 ... (7th day)7?
Maybe its to do with '01477', though I do feel that, beginning with a '0', this is the machines actual number off the production line.
Can't give a definitive answer I am afraid.

Enough waffle from me - I hope the reports provide some further background history to your machine.
Its a shame, but no one (as far as I know) has any official brochures for this range of machines. If anyone does, please share with us - they are a great, albeit small, range of machines.

Paul


Post# 913483 , Reply# 192   1/1/2017 at 13:11 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        
Before I go ....

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Here is the Ideal Home dryer report from 1980, starring the 37405 ...


Post# 913484 , Reply# 193   1/1/2017 at 13:12 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        

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...

Post# 913485 , Reply# 194   1/1/2017 at 13:16 by matchboxpaul (Just north of Derby, U.K)        
and finally

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Thanks again Peter for introducing your 10700 (and 37405) to us all.

Cheers
Paul


Post# 913583 , Reply# 195   1/2/2017 at 06:36 by slpj (Kent)        

Hi Paul,

Thanks for all that information.

I looked at the rear of the user instructions that came with the 10700, and it says 1979, but of course they may not have revised the instructions after that. But as it happens, after speaking to my uncle, I know my Grandfather died in 1978, and left my mother some money. I'm pretty certain that it was the money from that, used to buy the Creda washer and dryer. I thought we bought them early 80s but it may have been even earlier. But if I now assume that it was 1980, that makes my Creda combo 36 years old, and still in use. The dryer has nothing wrong with it at all, and has never had any work done on it. The washing machine is in need of drum bearings and a suspension leg, and has I think had a new pump -- from memory. That's not bad for 36 years and 3 house moves. Hope my meile replacement does half as well, and given that it will be doing no more than a 1/4 of the washes, it ought to last yonks and yonks.


Post# 914426 , Reply# 196   1/7/2017 at 11:00 by Electradeluxe (Blackpool, Lancs)        

Hi all,
Happy New Year!
And what a lovely surprise to see a Creda machine still going strong!
I'm sure whoever takes this machine off your hands will give it as much love and care as you have

Looking forward to future posts about this machine and the restoration,I will be keeping an eye out for Mike's Electra machine around the spring time!
We need more of these machines to surface!

Take care for now!!

Neil


Post# 916048 , Reply# 197   1/17/2017 at 09:00 by slpj (Kent)        
Update to my earlier comments, RE: Creda 1000 10700.

Just to update this.

Not posted as have been somewhat unwell, with the first dose of flu that has made me stay in bed for over a week since I was a kid. Anyway, I now have a new Meile installed to replace my Creda 1000 10700. Which now ready to be sold.

Whilst packing/padding and draining the Creda for sale, I took the opportunity to clean out the trap under the pump. I found (corroded) 1.57 in there, in the form of a 1 pound coin, a 50p, a 5p, and a 2p. Cleaned them up in a mixture of lemon juice white vinegar and good old coke. Then I spent them in Tesco. I have no idea how long they had been there, but the 1 coin was the oldest at 1989.

I also looked under the machine to verify/confirm, exactly what motor it has, as I'd forgotten if I'd put the original back on again. (See my earlier comments).

Anyway, it has the NEW Hotpoint motor installed, that I bought(thinking the motor was making the noise) circa 3 or so years ago, -- before doing the drum bearings, which were actually responsible for the noise. It's exactly the same as the original motor I took off, which means that when we bought this back in the early 1980's, or possibly even prior to 1980, it came with a hotpoint motor.

Here's a pic of the motor in situ.



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Post# 916068 , Reply# 198   1/17/2017 at 11:32 by chestermikeuk (Rainhill *Home of the RailwayTrials* Merseyside,UK)        
Hotpoint motors

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Hi Peter thanks for the information, will have to see how we can work out if and when the AEG motors where used etc as opposed to the Hotpoint ones.

You say your are packing ready "For Sale" are you putting it forward for open sale now ? am sure the other persons involved in the bidding are still interested if circumstances have changed ?

Thats the great thing about the vortex pumps, all that change rattling around and still carries on pumping with no damage to the pump.

All The Best with your new Miele washing machine, am sure it will give as long service as this old classic Creda did.

Cheers, Mike



Post# 916233 , Reply# 199   1/18/2017 at 14:15 by slpj (Kent)        
Creda 10700, Sold, subject to collection.

Hi Mike,

The Creda has been sold, subject to collection, which should be next tuesday. No doubt you'll hear about it when it arrives at it's new home. :)


Post# 916264 , Reply# 200   1/18/2017 at 18:06 by optima (Cumbria England)        
Creda 1 Thousand

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Such a shame it has a standard hotpoint motor on it.

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Post# 916940 , Reply# 201   1/22/2017 at 13:26 by slpj (Kent)        
Creda motor.

Hi Optima,

What is the disadvantage of a "standard" hotpoint motor? You say it's a shame, so can I assume it's inferior to a Creda motor, or some other version of the hotpoint motor?


Post# 916951 , Reply# 202   1/22/2017 at 14:44 by ServisChris (Hampshire, UK)        
Creda

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This fits in the thread well, I had this and another dryer dropped off on my driveway from my ex boss in the week....a Creda Debonair Sensair. Anybody got a door lol, appreciated! Must be my 3rd vintage Sensor dryer i think!



Post# 917467 , Reply# 203   1/25/2017 at 04:29 by slpj (Kent)        
On it's way.

On it's way to the Emerald Isle.

The next post on this Creda 1000 10700, will be written by the new owner.


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Post# 922148 , Reply# 204   2/18/2017 at 09:55 by RobM (London)        
Creda on TV

Has anyone ever seen 'Absurd Person Singular'? It's a play by Alan Ayckbourn and it set in various kitchens on Christmas eve. I was lucky to see it many years ago but the BBC have never re-shown it.

In the first kitchen Prunella Scales is asking Maureen Lipman all about her washing machine (pic on the right). This version of the play came out in 1985 so this will be a round door Hoover Electron from this period.

In the picture on the left our dear friend Creda is shown. The machine is featured less but is clearly shown.

I got a copy of this online but its very bad quality. Hope the BBC re-show it!


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Post# 927221 , Reply# 205   3/16/2017 at 15:56 by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        
Creda One Thousand Electronic 10700

Peter's machine that I had the pleasure of buying has now continued its story in a new thread I have created which can be found in the link attached.

Once again, thank you Peter and to everyone who contributed to this thread as if it wasn't for this thread Peter may never have got in touch about his 10700!

Kind regards,

James


Post# 927224 , Reply# 206   3/16/2017 at 16:12 by supermaticjames (Donegal, Ireland)        

It would help if I attached the link! LOL

CLICK HERE TO GO TO supermaticjames's LINK





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