The following are archived forum messages from the original forum of automaticwasher.org referred to as Applianceville from May, 2001 to Sept 2004...
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Post# 24000-11/10/2002-10:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: POD Bendix 36 Million? (from the book)
MESSAGE: Oh yeah - it was only $179.50!
(2190.62 in 2002)
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Post# 24001-11/10/2002-10:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: 1962 Classic Miele
MESSAGE: This is beautiful Louis - Miele certainly made a long lasting machine!
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Post# 24002-11/10/2002-10:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: KITCHENAID KDS-15 & KDS-18
MESSAGE: Thanks for the watchful eye out there - you never know when that dream machine is going to come along.
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Post# 24003-11/10/2002-10:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: New to group
MESSAGE: Hi and welcome - we have members all over the midwest, Ohio, Minnesota, Nebraska. I'll bet with some hunting in the Chicago area, you'll find some fantastic appliances. Lots of old homes with basements - are there Estate or Tag sales in your area?
Enjoy the club! Greg
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Post# 24004-11/10/2002-11:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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RE: POD Bendix 36 Million?
MESSAGE: Brent, aside from the fact that these machines didn't wassh all that well, here's a bit of trivia that I think I remember. These machines did last for a long time. GE kinda did a smear/fear marketing campaign in the late 50s telling people their front loaders were gonna break and flood everything/everywhere. Out of that campaign, a lot of people got rid of their Bendix machines for top loaders and were probably junked/scrapped.
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Post# 24005-11/10/2002-11:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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RE: Classic Dryer on Ebay ((Hello Atlanta members or Steve 1-18!!!!!!))
MESSAGE: Y'all can't let this gem get loose can ya, Steve don't ya need another Whirlpool dryer? HQOTS???!!!???
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Post# 24006-11/10/2002-12:25 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
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shipping costs
MESSAGE: has anyone had an experience with shipping a washer accross the country. Does UPS or FED-EX do that. and what about cost. I could understand a dishwasher or dryer but what about a washer with its loose innards. I mean unless you have an original shipping brace from the manufacturer how do you make sure it wouldn't damage the machine.
Thanks, Oh I was driving to pick up an 1978 almond kenmore dryer I bought and found a ,what I am estimating to be a, 1983 Imperial Kitchenaid Dishwasher just sitting at the curb, AND with the 1970's style wood insert front. Its like getting 3 for 1. :o}} I'm elated. (lol)
Steve,
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Post# 24007-11/10/2002-12:57 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
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RE: shipping costs (Welcome!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Steve, Welcome to the club!! You are going to enjoy this group a lot.
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Post# 24008-11/10/2002-13:03 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
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RE: Classic Dryer on Ebay (Whirlpool convertible-door dryer)
MESSAGE: There is one of these in John Lefever's warehouse. It opened down, but I couldn't get it to work sideways.
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Post# 24009-11/10/2002-13:37 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
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RE: 1962 Classic Miele (Thanks for the link Louis!)
MESSAGE: That is a cool looking machine. It looks like it is in great shape!
Was that a temp. display on the top of the machine by the dispenser?
That would be a cool machine to have.
Brent
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Post# 24010-11/10/2002-13:39 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
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RE: POD Bendix 36 Million? (That makes more sense. Kinda.)
MESSAGE: Greg,
After I posted the post, I read it again, and it made the sense to me that you pointed out.
I agree about statistics back then. You could almost print anything and get away with whatever you wanted it seems.
Car ads were even worse.
Brent
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Post# 24011-11/10/2002-14:01 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
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WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?"
MESSAGE: Hello,
That is an interesting Whirlpool dryer that is on eBay.
I was wondering if that was a misprint, or is there a such thing as a 2-speed dryer?
If it is correct, what did it mean? I get the 5 temp part.
Brent
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Post# 24012-11/10/2002-14:53 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: 70's Frig. Up & Down Agitator Machine
MESSAGE: Strange, nothing!!.. Most of us are pining away for that machine. You are one lucky person!!
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Post# 24013-11/10/2002-15:12 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
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Gibson
MESSAGE: This ad from Tri Cities Tennessee Trading Post.I hope it is of interest to someone."1947 Gibson electric stove,3 elements,one deep well,storage drawer beside oven,white with chrome handles,very good condition,asking $200.276-645-0533".This sounds like a killer for someone doing a kitchen.
Tom
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Post# 24014-11/10/2002-15:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
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RE: 1962 Classic Miele (Thanks for the link Louis!)
MESSAGE: Yes, it indeed looks in great shape, there was only a broken relay inside the machine according to the text. The only thing I see on top is the plug (the white round thing behind the dispenser). It would be indeed a nice machine to have, but overhere hardly anyone has 380/400 Volts at home. Besides that these first frontloaders were extremely heavy, it must be around 150kg (around 330lbs).
Louis
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Post# 24015-11/10/2002-15:35 ||| gregm (central MA)
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RE: New to group (welcome)
MESSAGE: Welcome !! :) ......
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Post# 24016-11/10/2002-15:38 ||| gregm (central MA)
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RE: shipping costs (KA DW)
MESSAGE: I love the Kitchen Aid DW's Steve, but only the pre, I believe 1986 ones, the ones that were still "made by Hobart" as they usually say on the front...........congrads on your find.....
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Post# 24017-11/10/2002-16:21 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
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RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Whirlpool dryer speeds)
MESSAGE: Two situations come into play:
1. Two
drying speeds -- as in how fast moisture is removed from the clothing. The speeds were generally referred to as "Super" and "Gentle." Super was 'regular' speed, Gentle was slower. Changing the speed involved physically shifting the belt on a two-speed blower pulley (smaller and larger diameter sections) -- and may also have involved reducing the heat output by way of a two-stage heating element or gas burner. This is likely what "2-speed" means in that eBay ad. The speed control was a rotary dial on the panel, with "Super" sometimes indicated by a neon light.
2. Two or three
tumble tumble speeds. I think three speeds was the initial offering, I don't know in what year. Then it was reduced to two speeds, then the feature was dropped completely. This involved a cone-shaped motor pulley, and physically shifting the drum belt along it for slower or faster tumble speeds. The speed control was a two- or three-position lever on the far right side of the control panel.
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Post# 24018-11/10/2002-18:19 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
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RE: shipping costs (KA DW)
MESSAGE: Thanks. At some point, in the 90's, whirlpool, which I'm not sure when they bought the KithenAid label, "canceled" the good dishwashers and stuck that name on their chincey (did I spell that right) Whirlpools, I mean come on !! It had to be the appliance crime of the decade. ugh.
A friend of mine remodeled his kitchen in about 1995 and put in a Superba. When the thing was running I thought there was something wrong with it. It was sooo quiet, I was resold on something I had high esteem for already. Then he built a house in 1999 and we went shopping, for both of us. He bought another Superba in Almond and I bought the cheapest model, also in almond. It was a disappointment. That stainless steel tub just seems so dark and I don't think it helps to quiet the machine. They also stole the quad wash arm I'm sure to make it "look" like a Kitchenaid. We returned them and bought him a Kenmore made by Whirlpool, with a plastic tub, It was slightly quieter but he returned that as well. Then a salesperson showed us Frigidaire one of their computer controled models. We both bought the same model. They are so quiet and versatile-you can wash just one rack instead of both. And the front is all one piece. They clean really well too. Sorry KitchenAid, Really.
Please, let us all bow our heads for a moment of silence.
... ... Fortunately, I feel I am amongst those who will understand my concerns.
May positive thoughts be with us
Steve
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Post# 24019-11/10/2002-18:21 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
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RE: shipping costs (KA DW)
MESSAGE: what was the difference between pre and post 1986 KitchenAids.
Steve
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Post# 24020-11/10/2002-18:46 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
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RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (I've seen one)
MESSAGE: My Aunt had one, it was white, and had one of those consoles that was larger on the far left third. I think it had a flourescent section in the console as well. I remember it had a 2 speed switch, but I didn't know what it did. Also, the lint filter was short, maybe 12" long and if you pulled it out when the machine was running the machine would blow exhaust all over the top.
Steve
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Post# 24021-11/10/2002-20:12 ||| Joshie (Arizona)
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New Maytag Atlantis
MESSAGE: Hi. Has anyone seen the brand new Maytag Atlantis? Just saw one on Saturday. Switches are now rotary with somewhat of a 'retro' look! And the medallion is very art deco! Joshie
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Post# 24022-11/10/2002-20:23 ||| gregm (central MA)
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RE: shipping costs (KA DWpre'86)
MESSAGE: pre 1986 were made by HOBART, not Whirlpool
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Post# 24023-11/10/2002-20:25 ||| gregm (central MA)
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Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: I have never liked the placement of Whirlpool made dryers lint filters, always musses up the top of the machine..........
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Post# 24024-11/10/2002-21:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: Greg, some of the more recent upper end Sears dryers have gone to having the lint filter inside the front door, and the drum/door is also mounted higher up within the cabinet, making it a more convenient machine to use all around. If they have done this to any of the Whirlpool-branded units, I have not seen them. I kind of wish they would offer that two way door again, it would be the best of both worlds. I have always liked the drop down door, but the new large capacity machines are so deep, I can see where a shorter person or person with shorter arms might have difficulty.
Whirlpool bought the KitchenAid brand in 1986, however they continued manufacturing the dishwashers in the Hobart style until about 1996. They were great machines, but I kind of wonder even if they had lasted past '96, if they would have survived this current stainless steel talltub craze.
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Post# 24025-11/10/2002-21:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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RE: New to group
MESSAGE: Welcome Steve. A great profile. Finally, other than JasonL, another guy who likes harvest gold & Coffee appliances as well as the unique Sand and Pewter colors from the 80s. I think you'll enjoy all of us here.
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Post# 24026-11/10/2002-21:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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RE: New Maytag Atlantis
MESSAGE: Joshie, a sad day in applianceville. Maytag was the last of the machines with "push buttons". I'd rather have some buttons to push than just knobs to grab all the time.
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Post# 24027-11/10/2002-22:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: Scott, Whirlpool does offer the inside lint filter in its upper end dryers too. As far as post Whirlpool acquisition KA dishwashers, John LeFever says that the last of the "Hobart" style included the Whirlpool designed "Power-Clean_ mechanism and John says it was the beset-cleaning KA dishwasher made. I imagine this cleaning system survived in the KD24 & KD25 SS interior series, but I don't know that for sure. I personally believe the old "Hobart" style racks held more than today's style racks too.
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Post# 24028-11/10/2002-22:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: I had one of the first WP-pump Kitchen Aid dishwasher in my condo before we bought this house. That was the best dishwasher I'd ever owned it was quiet, fast and the most solily built dishwasher on the market when I bought it in 1995. My only regret is not replacing with a $128 Hotpoint and bringing that KA to the new house.
Another appliance regret! On the bright side, I was hunting for a place in the basement for my newly aquired KDS-17 to find a home.
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Post# 24029-11/10/2002-22:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: ...and I loved the enclosed upper wash arm too! The 1996 model I had was just fantastic. So quiet, well made, and easy to load.
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Post# 24030-11/10/2002-22:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
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RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: ..oh and the hidden heating element!
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Post# 24031-11/10/2002-22:44 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
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RE: shipping costs (KA DWpre'86)
MESSAGE: My 1992 Superba still has the "classic" KA control panel. Four-way lower arm, flow-through drying (although at reduced wattage), circular water heating element in the sump area. Lower rack has plates on the left side instead of the center, full-width silver basket on the front. Upper rack is the classic tilt kind with adjustable tines, but with upper wash arm. Alas, no Constant Rinse. :-/
Oh, and the motor does reverse.
It never occurred to me when I bought it that it isn't a true Hobart, but I suppose it's not.
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Post# 24032-11/11/2002-00:47 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
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RE: New Maytag Atlantis (speaking of buttons...)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the Welcome, Appnut and everyone else.
I was wondering does anyone remember on the Beverly Hillbillies they had a Maytag washer and dryer in the backhall from the kitchen. I think they were pink (or whatever the proper name for that color was). Anyway, they didn't have a knob, they just had buttons, of which, I assume was somekind of auto advancing mechanical timer. I don't think I have ever seen that on any other brand and I wonder how reliable they were and what the years were that they made them. Did they make them into the 70's, for example.
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Post# 24033-11/11/2002-01:41 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
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RE: New Maytag Atlantis (speaking of buttons...)
MESSAGE: Yup, always got a thrill when that pair was in a scene. I think Maytag did carry the pushbutton models into the 1970s, one of the experts around here can provide details/corrections.
KitchenAid had a pushbutton rapid-advance timer as well, in the 1980s. KA's first two washer offerings were a fully-electronic model, and the pushbutton mechanical-timer model.
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Post# 24034-11/11/2002-06:58 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
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WHIRLPOOL IMPERIAL 2 SPEED 5 TEMP DRYER
MESSAGE: I own one. Mine is pink and has a window in it. It's a 1963, and I use it regularly. I completely rebuilt the thing about 6 years ago, including new belts, new seals, new blower and rear drum bearings, new light bulbs, etc. I have many photo's of the machine, but I'm sure most of you are already tired of seeing them. Anyone who would like to see any part of the machine, just ask and I'll be glad to take the photo of that part just for you.
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Post# 24035-11/11/2002-07:15 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
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PUSHBUTTON MAYTAG A 906 Washing Machine
MESSAGE: Yes. Granny enjoyed a top of the line pair of Maytags, with all pushbutton controls. The washer used the button to make the selections, and used electro-mechanical means to accomplish this. In other words, there were NOT electronics, but there were switches and motors and timers behind the control panel, and the thing was more like a juke box (of the same period)than a computer controlled device such as we have become accostomed to today.
I owned a lovely sunshine yellow 1967 Maytag A906, which I lovingly rebuilt and sold to our own Lightedcontrols man, Mark Hardman-Buseman, years ago, the same time that I sold him my FRIGIDAIRE WCI59 turquoise porcelain washer & dryer pair. It was a happy day for both of us, and the beginning of what has turned out to be a swell friendship, and I do mean that sincerely.
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Post# 24036-11/11/2002-08:27 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
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RE: PUSHBUTTON MAYTAG A 906 Washing Machine (Granny's Maytags)
MESSAGE: In the first season of "Beverly Hillbillies' when the show was in black & white, Granny's Maytags did not match. One of the pair, I think it was the washer, had a rotary dial on the back panel which looked suspiciously like an early Maytag coin-op machine. It wasn't until season 2 or 3 that this machine was replaced with the one that matched the model with the long time-line looking control.
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Post# 24037-11/11/2002-09:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
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RE: New Maytag Atlantis (speaking of buttons...)
MESSAGE: Greg (Gansky) has a set of these machines, I think he said from 1967. His have the newer control panel that came out around then, whereas Granny's had the previous style control panel I believe.
They are neat machines with the rapid advance timer and beautifully backlit control panels, and with the dryer, you just pop in the clothes, hit a button and they dry gently and come out beautifully. The only slight disadvantage in the "real world" with the washer would be that there are only two water levels, and certain cycles only let you use full fill. Other than that, they work great and are of course very convenient to use.
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Post# 24038-11/11/2002-10:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
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Bendix dryer temp limits
MESSAGE: Any one have the temperature limits for the thermostats in the dryer heating element box and the hi-limit thermostat in the blower housing? 1952 Bendix dryer doesn't seem to want to cut the heat...
-ph
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Post# 24039-11/11/2002-10:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
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RE: shipping costs (Craters & Freighters)
MESSAGE: Welcome!
Several of us have used Crater & Freighters to ship machines. If they have an office in your area, they will come to your home, pack it up very securely, and ship to the destination. It can be quite expensive, but it's all relative to the machine being sent/rec'd. Mail Box Etc will also do packing and shipping, but you have to bring it to them. The machines that I have rec'd have not been cross-braced or bolted and arrived just fine.
-ph
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Post# 24040-11/11/2002-10:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
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RE: 70's Frig. Up & Down Agitator Machine
MESSAGE: $50-$100. There are still many of these Frigidaire 1-18 around, altho' parts are getting scarce. Check the top right of the control panel and let us know what model number you have. I may be in Syracuse over either Thanksgiving or Christmas...
-ph
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Post# 24041-11/11/2002-10:24 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
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RE: "Blue" commercial
MESSAGE: GE monitor top refrigerator in the first sceen (1940's).
Stove with round oven window in the second (1950's?).
KA dishwasher in the 70's sceen.
-ph
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Post# 24042-11/11/2002-10:26 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
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RE: New Maytag Atlantis (TV trivia)
MESSAGE: Wow, I am sooo impressed. You guys are so knowledgable. I thought I was the only one who noticed these tv details. I am obviously in good company.
So Ok, heres some TV trivia:
1. On the Bradybunch, what brand washer/dryer did they have and what color was it?
2. Did the Golden Girls have a dishwasher and if so what brand was it?
3. On Dallas what brand refrigerator did Southfork have, what type of frig was it, and what was unusual about the situation?
4. I don't know if anyone remembers a show called Don't eat the daisies. I hardly remember it myself, but I do remember the type of washer they had. Do you remember what brand it was, what color it was and where it was located in the house?
and finally
5. In the first couple of seasons of KnotsLanding what brand vacuum cleaner did Karan and Sid have, and what style was it?
To all knowledgable contestants the 6th E-mailer to get at least one correct answer right wins 1000 Applianceville dollars. The 8th E-mailer to get all the answers correct wins the GRAND PRIZE -a TRIP, yes thats right a trip to Sams club to buy me a bottle of Downy April Fresh scent and some sugar cookies.(lol)
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Post# 24043-11/11/2002-10:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
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RE: Classic Dryer on Ebay (Hello Atlanta members)
MESSAGE: I sho' don't need me another dryer up in this here trailer!
-ph
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Post# 24044-11/11/2002-10:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
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RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (2 FAN speeds)
MESSAGE: There's a pulley on the fan to slow down the air flow. This dryer does not tumble at different speeds.
-ph
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Post# 24045-11/11/2002-10:29 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
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RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Whirlpool dryer speeds)
MESSAGE: Yeah, what Glenn says!
-ph
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Post# 24046-11/11/2002-10:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
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RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: One of the charms of owning a WP/KM dryer is cleaning the lint filter, then blowing or brushing off the lint on the dryer top with your hands! It's kinda like having to load a Frigidaire in quadrants; just one of those things you have to do!
-ph
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Post# 24047-11/11/2002-12:01 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
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RE: PUSHBUTTON MAYTAG A 906 Washing Machine (and Jukeboxes)
MESSAGE: Didn't Seeburg (jukebox maker) design some of the electromechanical parts for those pushbutton machines like the 906 and the 59 Lady Kenmore? I thought I saw that somewhere.
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Post# 24048-11/11/2002-12:22 ||| peteski50 (New York)
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RE: New to group (Welcome )
MESSAGE: Welcome to this Great club
Peter
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Post# 24049-11/11/2002-13:47 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
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RE: New Maytag Atlantis (TV trivia)
MESSAGE: 1. Very easy, avocado whirlpol set, who can forget Bobby washing his suit or Alice and Carol's wash off with Best detergent, wait was the other detergent in the wash-off?
2. It was a GE and I hope she had NBC replace the fire hazard of a machine.
3. I will have to say sub-zero side by side and they had 2 of them?
4. Ah, Mrs. Nash had a set of harvest gold Maytags with the lighted console in the basement. They were located by their monster of a furnace and Martha the maid had to be shown how to operate the washer.
5. A hoover upright.
Here's the real BONUS question Hazel was on for 5 seasons and went through 5 sets of appliances (that maid sure was hard on them) some were the same brand the following season but the color was changed. Can you do the appliances or at least color's in order from season one thru five?
Super Bonus?
On the late 60's movie Yours, Mine, and Ours with Lucille Ball and Henry Fonda what type of washer did she have and what was unusual about her laundry set-up. Also what detergent did she buy by the cart full?
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Post# 24050-11/11/2002-14:39 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
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RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Whirlpool dryer speeds)
MESSAGE: If you click the link you will see my 1967 Turquaz(HAHA) Mark XII.
The two speed on this year actuated a baffle in the lint duct that restricted air flow and also switched the heating element to the low wattage side only. They did away with the true speed selector because of too many problems.
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/MUSEUM/Whirlpool/Museum-Whirlpool.htm
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Post# 24051-11/11/2002-14:46 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
My Toys
MESSAGE: How y'all durrin? I gots me one of them warshers that has that up-n-down type thang in the middle. I be likin it a lot, but it don't have a Wig cycle so I still can't warsh all my wigs in it. If I do they all get tangle together and it be a mess.
So if you want to see them click the link and then click on Favorite Things. That will brang you to some piktures of some of the stuffs I haves up in this hea trailor.
(I really don't think I need any more coffee today. Elevenseventytwo cups are enough)
LINK: http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/u/dumontj/
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Post# 24052-11/11/2002-17:05 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
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RE: New Maytag Atlantis (TV trivia)
MESSAGE: Well, I will take a shot at the bonuses:
1) I think Hazel started with a Bendix Duomatic, then went to the top loading Philco Bendix matched set. Later on when she went to work for the other Mr. Baxter - Mr Steve (Ray Fulmer) and Missy #2 (Lynn Borden) they went for the push button Maytags. I cannot do the colors because we had black and white TV when I was growing up.
2) In the movie Yours, Mine and Ours, Lucille Ball had turquoise Maytags in her basement. What made it unusual was that she had a few washers and a few dryers (at least 2 of each. But with 18 kids and a few in cloth diapers combined with the small capacity of Maytags, she needed all she could get. And speaking of All, that would have been the detergent that filled her shopping cart. Yes, jumbo size boxes of Active All. I particularly liked the laundry chute going down to the basement. Did you note though in the scene where she is actually doing laundry, she is pouring "Fluffy All" (from the red box) into the machine??
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Post# 24053-11/11/2002-17:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Bendix dryer temp limits
MESSAGE: Hi Peter - check on the thermostats themselves - there should be a number stamped on it like 139, 155, 190. This is the cutoff temp of the thermostat. I think the operating temp for this dryer is like 150-155.
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Post# 24054-11/11/2002-17:10 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
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Whirlpool Direct Drive (1 speed motor -> 2 speed?)
MESSAGE: Hi all,
Took in a nice direct drive washer but i found out the gentle speed wasn't workin, replaced the timer, still didn't work and then i noticed somebody swapped motors on me, the motor doesn't have a plugin for the orange wire thats hot when the machines supposed to be in slow mode, so my question is, is there anyway to make a one speed motor a two speed or do i have to just get a new motor, god i hate it when i put more into a machine than its worth!!
~Steven
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Post# 24055-11/11/2002-17:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (2 FAN speeds)
MESSAGE: The gas model operates at 30,000 BTU in "super" speed selection and 20,000 BTU in "gentle." In electric models, the heater runs at 5600 watts on super and 4600 on gentle. The fan still ran at the same speed in this model (although other models were different) but airflow was lowered in the gentle selection by a damper above the blower inside the exhaust air duct.
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Post# 24056-11/11/2002-17:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Whirlpool dryer speeds)
MESSAGE: Some 1972 Whirlpool dryers had a "three speed" selector which used a shifter fork assembly to resposition the drive belt on a tapered pulley. Delicate or Small load setting was 44 rpm, Medium setting was 49 rpm and Heavy Load setting was 55 rpms.
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Post# 24057-11/11/2002-17:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool top removal lint filters
MESSAGE: One benefit of the large/super capacity machines with the top-mounted lint filter is that these have a 29" cabinet where the newer, front-mounted filters are in a 27" cabinet. The larger cabinet has a larger drum diameter which might help slightly with larger items and wrinkling. If you pull the filter out while the dryer is running, much of the lint will get sucked back into the air duct. This won't work on older style models that blow through the filter.
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Post# 24058-11/11/2002-17:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Toys
MESSAGE: Hi Jason - you might want to invest in some natural hair wigs, those poly ones never last!
Your pictures are great!
Greg
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Post# 24059-11/11/2002-17:32 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
Classic Movies and Classic Appliances......
MESSAGE: To Everyone:
As everyone may know by now, as much as I have a love for classic appliances and so forth, my true love remains high fidelity audio and home theater. And as such, then I have a couple interesting questions I would like to ask any of you.
(01). Recently, I have bought the James Bond "007" Series on DVD (which consists of the following movies...... "Dr. No -- 1962", "Goldfinger -- 1964", "The Man With The Golden Gun -- 1974", "The Spy Who Loved Me -- 1977", "License To Kill -- 1989", "Goldeneye -- 1995", and "You Only Live Twice -- 1997"), and I have already viewed "Dr No" and "Goldfinger". Now, when I looked at the first two movies in my "007" DVD set, I did not recall seeing any classic appliances in those movies. But now, I have previewed "The Man With The Golden Gun" about two days ago or so, and in that movie, I believe there were appliances being shown in a segment of it. What I saw were two "high-end" built-in ovens (well...... I thought they were considered "high-end" at the time) flanking a fancy "high-end" kitchen. I may have saw a "stainless steel" refrigerator as well (and if that was the case, then gee...... I didn't know that stainless steel was in vogue in the early 1970's). But now, I am sure of this. What I saw in the adjoining room during the same sequence in the film was a Westinghouse Tumble Action Washer and Matching Dryer (which I knew they were in fact making in the 1970's..... afterwards....... I have put my DVD Player on pause, zoomed it up to about the second level, and then ran the scene at "one-half" speed going either forwards or backwards in order to get a good view of what that machine really looked like without "Tattoo" of "Fantasy Island" standing in the way all of the time). And what I want to know now from any of you is, did any of you consider the Westinghouse Washer a good washer back in the 1970s????
(02). And if a movie is supposed to be of "high-end", "high-tech" aspirations like the "Bond" movies always tend to be, then why didn't they use Mieles instead of Westinghouses (not that I have anything against Westinghouse)???
(03). I believe if these washers were still being manufactured today, then I believe they would retail for anywhere from $600.00 to about $950.00 (depending on model and features). How much did these washers retailed for back in the 1970's??? If I could recall correctly, the one that the late Pearl Bailey was advertising has retailed for about $450.00 to about $550.00 or so (and I think this was in 1977, I believe).
(04). And lastly, if any of you have seen any classic movies (not shows like Beverly Hillbillies, I Love Lucy, Bewitched, and the Brady Bunch, and so forth. I already know about those shows) at all that has anything in them that resembles classic appliances as well???
I am going to stop now....... but I eagerly await responses that may come my way later on.
Later and Regards to All:
--Charles--
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Post# 24060-11/11/2002-17:36 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Maytag Atlantis (TV trivia)
MESSAGE: Good job Angus! Hazel's color scheme was the following. I'm sure on the washer brands as you stated, not quite certain on the other appliance brands, though.
Season 1, appliances were a sunny yellow, the fridge and stove looked like from late 50's sort of I love Lucy.
Season 2, Mr. B bought her brand new appliances in turquoise including the matching Bendix set. The fridge was a bottom mount freezer. I'd guess probably Frigidaire, as was the range.
Season 3, For some reason the appliances were all the same type only the color of them changed to coppertone, with no mention.
Season 4, In episode #110 the storyline centered around Hazel trying to get Mr. B to remodel. The fridge was still a bottom mount, but the stove was now counter top, with a wall oven. The dishwasher had one large rotary dial. Maybe at this time the appliances could have been Hotpoint. The color was now sort of a yellow, not a bright one as in season one but not a harvest gold, maybe just gold. Was that a color at the time?
Season 5, She goes to work for his brother in an entirely different house and her appliances in that house are coppertone, with the wonderful Maytag push buttons, and a top mount fridge.
As for Lucy and the All detergent, If I remember correctly All was always a big sponser of Here's Lucy.
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Post# 24061-11/11/2002-17:52 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Toys (awesom collection)
MESSAGE: Wow, your collection is like a dream come true. excellent set up too. And that Kenmore black computer controlled. I had that set once for a short period of time. paid like $599 for the washer and $499 for the electric dryer. They were black and I thought is was so sleek with that 3/8" chrome tape around the top edge. Unfortunately was too neive to appreciate what I had and sold them. I didn't know that 86' was the last year for the belt drive. Thanks for that tidbit. The dispensall was so cool. It fit flush and would handle anything. Especially with the new liguid detergent insert, if that was what you preferred to use. I want get a set like the one you have with the dispensall but with the mechanical timer. Excellent. Excellent. I don't travel alot but for this kind of stuff I will.
Sigh. (catch my breath)
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Post# 24062-11/11/2002-18:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Toys (TRAILOR TRAYSH (joking, of course))
MESSAGE: You makin funna me city boy? My Friggy-More can beat up that there Pulserator you got in yer garage along with that Sissy Jap bike you ridin' on. My Harley eats them things for breakfast.
BTW, Cool 1-18 and awesome bike. Ride on!
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Post# 24063-11/11/2002-18:48 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Movies and Classic Appliances...... ( Attn: ChaskellJr2 - WIDESCREEN HIGH DEFINITION & vintage front loaders)
MESSAGE: ChaskellJr2 - Did you make it to the recent appliance convention? I'm in Arlington, easy to find near 395 and Glebe road, and feature several vintage appliances as well as 16:9 HDTV with Direct TV and DVD, naturally...However, your email is not correct any longer in the profiles of this site, as I have tried to reach via email already. Contrary to what many here may think, I do not bight, unless asked, and enjoy spending time with friends.
My email is robert.wirth2@verizon.net
BEST WISHES.
BOB
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Post# 24064-11/11/2002-18:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Movies and Classic Appliances...... (Cost of Living then and now)
MESSAGE: Hi Charles - the link is to a cost of living calculator, it's fun to plug in some of the prices of the now-vintage appliance costs and see the result in today's dollars. The technology really hasn't changed all that much over the years (they just add less water now) but the comparative cost has come way down. The 1978 Montgomery Wards tumble action washers retailed for an average of $450. (in harvest gold, of course) In today's dollars it would be $1200.
LINK: http://www.aier.org/cgi-bin/colcalculator.cgi
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Post# 24065-11/11/2002-19:47 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Very Interesting Greg about the BTU's)
MESSAGE: Greg,
That is so interesting. Gee, 30,000 BTU's? That is lot's of heat.
Do you know how it was able to kick down to a lower btu in the "second speed"? I am just by guessing that it used the pin in the gas output like the combos? I think that John talked about how the pin would push out as the temp of the inside of the drum become hotter, causing the burner to have less of a flame. I am very interested on how this was done.
Thanks for all of your knowledge.
Brent
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Post# 24066-11/11/2002-20:28 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Now available for your downloading and viewing delight, The Fabulous JasonL's Convention Video - Full length version, featuring extended scenes and never before seen footage.
20 megs in size. Works fine with broadband, but may require a full download before playing with dialup connections.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/convention.wmv
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Post# 24067-11/11/2002-20:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHIRLPOOL GAS DRYER "2-SPEED, 5 TEMP?" (Very Interesting Greg about the BTU's)
MESSAGE: It was a needle/pin orifice controlled by a solenoid. When set for heavy-high the solenoid would be energized and pull a pin allowing 30,000 BTU of gas to flow through. This is quite a nice dryer actually - fully featured and fabulous color - I don't think you should let this one slip away!
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Post# 24068-11/11/2002-20:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Amazing - you did a wonderful job! Thanks for all the hard work!
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Post# 24069-11/11/2002-20:58 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: What a great video!!! Makes me sad that I missed all of the fun ... BUT, I do look forward to being there next year with all of you guys. This video combined my two favorites ... vintage washers and men! Jason, you are a master when it comes to the videos and computers. Thanks for sharing!!!!!\
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Post# 24070-11/11/2002-21:04 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Toys (Beautiful 1-18)
MESSAGE: HQOTS nice pair of 1-18's! The washer looks like its humming along!
jet
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Post# 24071-11/11/2002-21:05 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bendix dryer temp limits (My GE Combo...)
MESSAGE: My Combo reads 275 degrees!!! That is way hot! And it gets that hot ask gregm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 24072-11/11/2002-21:25 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE! (how do I get tickets to the next one)
MESSAGE: Wow, kudos on your production. Sign me up for next time.
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Post# 24073-11/11/2002-21:32 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE! (AMAZING!)
MESSAGE: I HAVE NEVER SEEN SUCH COOL FOOTAGE OF WASHING MACHINES IN MY LIFE! I HAVE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO EXPLAIN THE ANGLES AND WHAT CYCLES I WANT TO SEE, BUT GUESSED RIGHT IN THE MONEY!
Best Washes
-Jamie-
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Post# 24074-11/11/2002-21:37 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Todd, if you want to do another "Land Of Rust" wash-in, I'll bring the video and you can watch on the big screen. It's awesome.
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Post# 24075-11/11/2002-21:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Toys
MESSAGE: Jason, I love the new house. The pictures are terrific. However, can we see what the rest of the kitchen looks like too??? (And any other appliances you might have stached somewhere else?)
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Post# 24076-11/11/2002-21:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bendix dryer temp limits (My GE Combo...)
MESSAGE: Does your combo have the "drip dry" setting? I always found this amusing!
Even at 275, how long does it take to dry a load in the combo? Does the automatic cycle work well?
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Post# 24077-11/11/2002-21:41 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bendix dryer temp limits (My GE Combo...YUP!)
MESSAGE: it gets hot, hot, hot........ :) ........
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Post# 24078-11/11/2002-21:42 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bendix dryer temp limits (My GE Combo...auto works)
MESSAGE: I thought the auto setting worked well, takes an hour + to dry the average load, obviously Jon will know better.
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Post# 24079-11/11/2002-21:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Maytag Atlantis (speaking of buttons...)
MESSAGE: Steve, the 1959 LK top load washer had an all-button rapid advance type of timer scenario too. Then there was the Hotpoint Touch Command washer & dryer with the same arrangement. This set had lights that glowed when it was wash, rinse, spin cyclews for washer & drying and cool down for the dryer. Westinghouse front loader in 1958 or 1959 had all-button system too. Plus what Glenn said about the 1980s KA Superba Selectra Washer & Dryer. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any other machines that had a rapid advance type of timer arrangement, but there may be others.
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Post# 24080-11/11/2002-21:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: PUSHBUTTON MAYTAG A 906 Washing Machine (Granny's Maytags)
MESSAGE: Les, contrary to what you might think, those were a "matched" set of Maytags. The electronic controlled sensor dryer back then had the "dummy" dial with 4-pushbuttons and earlier versions, may have still been used on the set though, had the rotary dial with both timed settings & the auto dry settings. I don't believe until the new control panel arrangement in either 1966 or 1967, when the 906 arived, did they have a dryer with all-buttons that was the cosmetically matched panel to the washer.
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Post# 24081-11/11/2002-22:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
POD 11/11/2002 Westinghouse Laundromat
MESSAGE: Just goes to show ya, doing laundry is child's play!!!!
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Post# 24082-11/11/2002-22:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Maytag Atlantis (speaking of buttons...)
MESSAGE: 1979 Frigidaire 1-18
The Holy Grail of 1-18's!!!!
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Post# 24083-11/11/2002-22:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: PUSHBUTTON MAYTAG A 906 Washing Machine (Granny's Maytags)
MESSAGE: There was an all button dryer to match the button washer in like 1964-65. It was only around a short time before the panel design change in the '06 models in '67.
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Post# 24084-11/11/2002-22:08 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE! (FULL LENGTH VERSION)
MESSAGE: This is a real great video
Thanks much for a more detailed version
Peter
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Post# 24085-11/11/2002-22:14 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Jason, We do need to get together for another wash-in. We just moved to the new house 2 months ago and I still have to do some plumbing work to get the other machine (Frigidaire) hooked back up. Have to work in Houston for a couple of weekends (in order to renew my nursing license in Texas), but will call you soon to set up a date. My parents are even on the lookout for "vintage" machines at their weekend garage sales and flea markets.
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Post# 24086-11/11/2002-22:48 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: I have seen this alot. What is 1-18 refer to . I am not real familiar with fridgidaire washers other than that they had an up and down agitator.
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Post# 24087-11/11/2002-23:26 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: The "1-18" designation refers to the machine's ability to handle loads ranging from 1 pound to 18 pounds.
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Post# 24088-11/11/2002-23:35 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT:
Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18
MESSAGE: I should have it running within the next couple of weeks. I'm real excited,
guys,
as this is my first Frigidaire, and I've wanted one for years. And thanks to
Applicanceville.com, a couple of months I was recharged and encouraged to
start my search. Can't believe my luck in that I found one so quickly and
subsequently also all the parts it needed.
LINK: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~stmpstrt55/washer.htm
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Post# 24089-11/12/2002-00:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18
MESSAGE: Dick S, I think it's outstanding that one's dream is able to be accomplished so quickly. I'm glad this sight was an impetus to your search and support thereof. You and the machine are a handome couple!!! Just remember in your excitement and for your safety, to collect dirty laundry out of the hamper and not throw yourself in with clothes on too. I know it's difficult to contain oneself when around a Frigidaire pulsating away, but we must restrain ourselves for safety sake (although I have placed my hand at the bottom of a tub while the machine is agitating away (near the nergy ring) and no a hurt finger whatsoever). Love that live water action!!!!!.
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Post# 24090-11/12/2002-00:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: Steve (chicapplis) see Dick S's subsequent post & link of photos of his beautiful poppy red Frigidaire 1-18 washer. This was the last of GM Frigidaire's machines. The 1-18 was Frigidaire's only non-solid-tub washer. It had the largest capacity of any frigidaire waasher and offered multiple water level setting as opposed to two for prior solid-tub machines.
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Post# 24091-11/12/2002-03:28 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Cooooooooolll video!!!
Thank you Jason!
Louis
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Post# 24092-11/12/2002-06:56 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT:
Machines arriving tomorrow from Canada
MESSAGE: It took nearly two weeks from Canada to sunny southern California but my machines arrive tomorrow....1947 Bendix white round front loader and Maytag wringer washer...I have been saving up dirty laundry...cant wait to get them here and washing away....will post pictures eventually....also waiting for Westinghouse slant front but that hasnt even left Georgia for its new home in southern California.....shipping process takes a while I guess
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Post# 24093-11/12/2002-07:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD Speed Wash
MESSAGE: Are those Frigidaire washers?
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Post# 24094-11/12/2002-07:14 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (congrads)
MESSAGE: Dick, what a great find, I love the color........it washes better if you don't overload it, like any machine really, good luck with it and have fun :-)
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Post# 24095-11/12/2002-07:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18
MESSAGE: Great pictures - looks like a lot of work, but it will be worth it to have this washer like new again! Best of luck and thanks for sharing your fun pictures.
Greg
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Post# 24096-11/12/2002-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Machines arriving tomorrow from Canada
MESSAGE: I know how you feel - the waiting is nearly unbearable. Good luck with your new machines!
Greg
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Post# 24097-11/12/2002-07:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Speed Wash (Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: Speed Queen - around 1954 or so. I have a 1954 Speed Queen washer and dryer in my collection so I recognized that emblem on front!
Fantastic POD!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Collection+Photos&.src=ph&.dnm=South+Room+4.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Collection%2bPhotos%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24098-11/12/2002-08:01 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
Gansky: Speed Queen!
MESSAGE: Nice SQ set, Gansky! Did the pump/motor run during the fill portion of the cycle, as did later SQ's?
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Post# 24099-11/12/2002-08:51 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 ('79 Frigidaire 1-18 )
MESSAGE: This is a Beauty
Best of Luck with it
Peter
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Post# 24100-11/12/2002-09:06 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: Looks like you have a wonderful 78 model (79 models had a water level graphic). I have several of these consoles, so if your's does not clean up, I can send you one.
-ph
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Post# 24101-11/12/2002-09:36 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18
MESSAGE: I'm excited for you, It looks like its in pretty good shape.
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Post# 24102-11/12/2002-09:42 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: Its cool,
Poppy Red, I think I've only seen that color on Frigidaires, were they the only ones to offer that color?
I had an neighbor who had a mid 70s harvest gold frigidair set that they swore by.
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Post# 24103-11/12/2002-10:10 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Speed Wash (Speed Queen clean)
MESSAGE: what a layout. Everything is so clean, level, straight, and tastefully painted. A sign of a hard dutiful worker. I am only a week and half into collecting (again). And thats the way to present. I mean it should be, we work hard to save our machines from who knows what fate. We need to pamper out babies.
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Post# 24104-11/12/2002-10:30 ||| chicapplis (chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Movies and Classic Appliances...... (They only washer I can remember from like the 40's)
MESSAGE: was the Dumsteads, I think, husband and wife, child or 2 with dog. lived in a cape cod house. I forget their names. His was Dagwood, I think. Anyway a sales man called on them for a semi-automatic ringer washer which he had set up in the kitchen but not bolted down. And he said he could show it washing but not spinning. Then some distraction happened and the saleman was annoying her and she turned the knob to spin and it made quite a mess. I remember the long hoses run from the kitchen sink.
I don't know if that was a movie or a series. I remember watching it once as a child. Interesting, I don't remember much else about it, but I remember the washer. I must be one of those like, washing machine fanatics, or something. You think. HMMMM..
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Post# 24105-11/12/2002-11:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
GE and Downy survive GA tornado
MESSAGE: What a spin cycle!
LINK: http://www.accessatlanta.com/ajc/metro/photos/gastorm/image12.html
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Post# 24106-11/12/2002-11:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: Yay!!! Great job!
-ph
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Post# 24107-11/12/2002-11:23 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Toys (Ms SQL don't know no trailer)
MESSAGE: Now that's just ignunt. Y'all got too much humidity up under yo wigs. Go take a nerve pill befo you go ahollerin'...
-ph
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Post# 24108-11/12/2002-11:40 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Movies and Classic Appliances...... (They only washer I can remember from like the 40's)
MESSAGE: They were the Bumsteds, and the movie was Blondie. The subtitle was Dagwood asks for a Raise.
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Post# 24109-11/12/2002-11:47 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE and Downy survive GA tornado (Tornado and Soap Products)
MESSAGE: I remember when I was a youngster, and a tornado hit near by and really damaged a local market. The owner's were very good friends of my parents and they gave them truckloads of cleaning supplies from the damaged market. I understand because of the possibility of glass being in products the insurance company makes the store dispose of everything. Well, we had box after box of detergent. I remember how fun it was to have such a variety. I wish I had some of those boxes now.
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Post# 24110-11/12/2002-11:47 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: JASONL'S VIDEO - FULL LENGTH VERSION - NOW AVAILABLE HERE!
MESSAGE: This is so beautiful!
Awesome job Imperialbob!!!!!!
CleanteamofNY
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Post# 24111-11/12/2002-12:07 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
CONVENTION VIDEO PART II
MESSAGE: JASON,
THANKS FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK ON THE VIDEO! IT WAS AMAZING! MADE ME MISS ALL OF YOU GUYS SO MUCH!
BOB, THANKS ALSO!
BRENT
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Post# 24112-11/12/2002-12:08 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (pulsator cap search goes on and on and on . . .)
MESSAGE: Love that Poppy Red GM Frigidaire color. Good luck with the machine. May you find other machines you're looking for as well!
Wherever you found all the parts that you needed, by chance would they have the grey or black pulsator caps for the old 50's Unimatics? Please let me know the name of the company, I'd like to contact them to see if they might have the part, or know where I might find it.
P.S. Peter, I assume you didn't find it. Did you look everywhere you had intended to? Thanks anyway!
Eternally searching,
Ken
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Post# 24113-11/12/2002-12:33 ||| Flewbug (Greensboro, NC)
SUBJECT:
Truly Vintage whirlpool dishwasher
MESSAGE: A friend has asked me to sell this for her and I'm not sure where to begin. This is a Whirlpool dishwasher with a metal label stating Hershey-Sexton mfg. co. patented July 28, 1914. Its in very good condition and seems to be complete. It has a grey metal tub with a long lever that works the blade inside. There is a removable dishrack inside. Can anyone enlighten me on this?
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Post# 24114-11/12/2002-15:17 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE and Downy survive GA tornado
MESSAGE: LOL, looks like the reporter is missing the "laundry gene" -- that's an open dryer door, not a washer!
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Post# 24115-11/12/2002-18:48 ||| JEtcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE and Downy survive GA tornado
MESSAGE: I'll say what a spin cycle, and they don't look that wrinkled!!
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Post# 24116-11/12/2002-19:04 ||| zzzzz (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: If I'm not mistaken, the 1947-49 Frigidaire washers were non-solid-tub, as well.
Of course, I've seen a "1-18" with a conventional oscillating agitator, a late-1970's-style console and cabinet, and a GM-style window in a Westinghouse-style lid . This was one of the early-1980s WCI "Westinghouseidaires." Impostor!
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Post# 24117-11/12/2002-19:21 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
Rare! Frigidaire Script
MESSAGE: Get a load of this script! I have never seen it but I'll bet Robert has a MINT! copy up in his bellfrey!!!
jet
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2070472904
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Post# 24118-11/12/2002-19:23 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: I believe I have a '79 Frigidaire I-18 becuase it does have the water level graphic, GM logo and Jetclean agitator. It works great, so it is well worth Dick's efforts to restore his. Mine is also poppy. Any clue as to what the entire model number is? It is at my vacation home and I am not there now but want to order a new belt for it.
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Post# 24119-11/12/2002-20:59 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT:
I-18, What's a "non-solid" tub?
MESSAGE: I have a 1978 or 9? Poppy Frigidare Jetwash up and down and I don't know if it is a non-solid tub or solid tub, or what the difference is, as I am a neophite in the washerphile collector pool of experts.
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Post# 24120-11/12/2002-21:12 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: Hi Z,
I never remember the WCI Frigidaire ever having a window lid.
But actually when it all began in January 1981 all the appliance stores I went to had very few of those dreadful things on display. I remember 1 salesperson having a heated discussion on the phone with a WCI rep. The rep told him he was supposed to tell people that their new Tri Action washer washed just as well as the Jet Action 1/18 did. The sales person said he would do no such thing and indicated it was garbage and they already had a Westinghouse TL - so what the hell did they need this garbage for
Peter
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Post# 24121-11/12/2002-21:14 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: My Aunt had a 1974 Poppy 1/18 matching washer and dryer
(my favorate washer of all time)
Peter
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Post# 24122-11/12/2002-21:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: I-18, What's a "non-solid" tub?
MESSAGE: Welcome - that's why we're all here, to share and learn. We talked about a FAQ page at one time, but haven't gotten that done yet.
A solid tub (or solid basket) washer is one that has only holes around the top of the tub. It is filled with water for washing and the water is literally spun out of the tub and splashes into a much larger,stationary outer tub where it is drained away. This design allows for "overflow" washing and rinsing which is simply overfilling the tub during agitation until water is flowing out of the drain holes at the top, carrying away dirt and scum with it.
A perforated basket washer (or non-solid) is a simply a clothes basket with holes inside of a slightly larger tub. The entire unit is submerged in water and water is drained out through the holes and the bottom of the tub either with a neutral draining period or a "spin drain" when the clothes basket is revolving while draining.
Some washer tubs are confusing, they may look like perforated basket washers, but in fact are solid tub machines with perforated liners that are bolted to the actual solid tub. 1949-57'ish Maytag AMP style and '47-48 Frigidaire washers are two examples of this type. The link is to a picture of the early Frigidaire tub
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/multimatic850/vwp?.dir=/Very+First+Frigidaire+Washer+1947&.src=ph&.dnm=Fills+Between+the+Tubs.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/multimatic850/lst%3f%26.dir=/Very%2bFirst%2bFrigidaire%2bWasher%2b1947%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24123-11/12/2002-21:37 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
1/18 Dream Machine!
MESSAGE: I am sweating right now, someone has just offered me a free working order poppy 1/18! I don't know what to do! There is one catch, they want a front-loader in exchange, but all that I have got is a Kenmore Portable. What do I do? How do I convince my mom? Help! A dream machine is on the line here!
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Post# 24124-11/12/2002-22:42 ||| Chopper (Michigan City, Indiana)
SUBJECT:
1948 Dormeyer Power Chef Model 4000 stand mixer
MESSAGE: Hello everyone! My wife and I recently won an old mixer at a farm auction. It seems to work great, except that it's missing it's bowl and beaters. Does anyone have any ideas as to where these items may be found?
Best regards,
The Hamann's
my wife Eve's first starter website link below:
LINK: http://www.evescustomcrafts.com
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Post# 24125-11/12/2002-22:57 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
Cool Hoover on Ebay
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone I have been busy so I havent posated for a while but I really enjoyed watching Jasons convention video. Thanx!
Anyway check outt his really cool Hoover on Ebay. I would definately buy it if it was available in Australia.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2071214895
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Post# 24126-11/12/2002-23:47 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1/18 Dream Machine! (My Poppy I-I8)
MESSAGE: I would let it go for maybe a Maytag Neptune front loader.
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Post# 24127-11/12/2002-23:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Speed Wash (Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: Greg, I figured that was a SQ washer--given I've seen pics of your washer and knew that tyhat emblem on the front didn't match the WO65 emblems.
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Post# 24128-11/12/2002-23:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: Yes Stefgve, Frigidaire only offered Poppy. It never caught on with the other manufacturers.
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Post# 24129-11/12/2002-23:55 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: I am not sure what year I inherited, but it is Poppy Red, with all of the features and the multilple water level switch with the graphic that shows the level as compared to the Jet Cone Agitator.
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Post# 24130-11/12/2002-23:59 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1/18 Dream Machine! (Who said Free?)
MESSAGE: It was "I would consider a trade" Nothing is free, but nice people can negotiate. Perhaps a used front loading Maytag?
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Post# 24131-11/13/2002-00:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Maytag Atlantis (1-18 ?)
MESSAGE: zzzz, the 47-49 Frigidaires with the perforated tubs were actually still a solid tub, as were the Maytag AP washers with the perf tubs.
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Post# 24132-11/13/2002-04:22 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1948 Dormeyer Power Chef Model 4000 stand mixer (WACEM)
MESSAGE: Hi,
There is a group especially for mixers called Wacem (We Actually Collect Electric Mixers). Follow the link and you will get there.
Louis
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WACEM/
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Post# 24133-11/13/2002-04:58 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
Todays POD Speed Queen
MESSAGE: Definately Quality Speed Queen!!!
Chick aint half bad either! Much better than that scary looking Frigidaire Queen (who really reminds my of our scary primary school librarian) , Speed Queen for me!
Arrrooohhh indeed!!
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Post# 24134-11/13/2002-05:02 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Maytag Atlantis
MESSAGE: Hi Joshie!
I am so sad that Maytag has dropped push buttons from their line up. Now everyone has either knobs or electronic touch controls and all of them looking the same.
Fortunately in Aus we still will have the push buttons Atlantis for a while I wonder when the new one will make it to our shores, Was there any other changes other than the dails?
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Post# 24135-11/13/2002-06:10 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: CONVENTION VIDEO PART II
MESSAGE: That video was absolutely awesome, Jason. Makes me even sorrier that I was not able to attend the convention this year.
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Post# 24136-11/13/2002-06:38 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: ph-
Thanks for the info and the offer. I can't wait to give it a good cleaning and polishing and run my first load!
Dick
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Post# 24137-11/13/2002-06:40 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18
MESSAGE: I believe it is also and can't wait to truck it home.
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Post# 24138-11/13/2002-06:48 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (pulsator cap search goes on and on and on . . .)
MESSAGE: Ken,
It took me three days to track down this certain individual who came up with the parts for my 118. I asked him about your pulsator cap. He didn't have one. I am sincere when I say that I will keep looking for you.
Dick
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Post# 24139-11/13/2002-07:02 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY
MESSAGE: That is such a great ad! And what a beauty! (washer)Anyone know what year / year's these were made?
There are several mats here in Atlanta that still have this machine running! They must have been very well built! I am sure that the owners have really made a profit off of them!
When I was home in Louisiana several months ago, I stopped by a Speed Queen laundry center that I remembered from my childhood. I was so shocked when I walked in, and all of the Speed Queen machines that I remembered from my childhood was still there, and up and running! They had about 15 of the front loaders in the POD. And about 20 of the solid basket SQ top loaders. They had two of the SQ Dry Cleaning machines. The owner was there and we talked about his mat. He said that his Dry Cleaning machines never worked correct, and he stopped them in the 60's because he was afraid that someone would get hurt by them! He did not have the heart to get rid of them because he said he loved the novelty of the machines. He loved his SQ's, and said that he would do anything that he could to keep them up and running! It was so nice to hear someone say that! There were about 5 of the top loaders running, and two of the front loaders running while I was there. It was such a cool sound. Somewhat loud, but pleasing all the same!
Of course I gave him my number, and said that if he ever decided to get rid of the machines, or close the shop, (he was about 70 in age) to give me a call. He was very happy that I did give him my number, and could not believe that there was a club for vintage machines.
He did not know what the internet was!
Brent
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Post# 24140-11/13/2002-07:06 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: I'll jot down that info next time I visit the 118 and post it for you. Dick
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Post# 24141-11/13/2002-07:19 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY (WHERE????)
MESSAGE: Dude, where is this laundromat? I'll have to go check it out. The laundromat that I grew up around still has the same Milnor front loader from when I was a kid. Just as fun to watch today.
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Post# 24142-11/13/2002-07:30 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY (WHERE????)
MESSAGE: Hello Jason,
Morgan City
Brent
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Post# 24143-11/13/2002-09:28 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat
MESSAGE: Brent---what a great story! I can't believe those machines are still running. I wonder if the owner would be surprised if people from the web group started showing up to take video/pics?
Mostly, though, I love it that there are people who don't know about the internet. That is too cool.
Question: I've never seen a Frigidaire coin-op with an agitator cover. Did they not use one or were they all lost over time? Was the Jet Action diminished by the water shooting out the top of the open agitator, rather than being forced out the side openings into the submerged clothes?
And where is our beloved Uni lately? Has he gone undercover? Come to think of it, has anyone ever seen Uni Robert and Gansky in a room at the same time?! ;)
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Post# 24144-11/13/2002-09:39 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (78 or earlier)
MESSAGE: WC-6G probably. There are so many WC-6's around. The real gems are the WIA's, the WCI's and the ever ellusive WEG.
-ph
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Post# 24145-11/13/2002-09:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick's '79 Frigidaire 1-18 (1-18 belts)
MESSAGE: Changing the belt is a pretty major ordeal on 1-18's. If it is not slipping and you get good agitation and spinning, I'd order the new belt and just keep it on hand.
-ph
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Post# 24146-11/13/2002-09:46 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY (Super 20's)
MESSAGE: The only thing about these Super20's is that there are only 2 lifting vanes on the tub. Because the tub is stainless, the clothes just slide on the tub until a vane comes along and turns the load over. Give a whole new meaning to "lift and fall". It also has a pause and redistribute routine during the last spin.
Store owners love these machines and really do anything to keep them going.
-ph
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Post# 24147-11/13/2002-09:47 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat
MESSAGE: nt
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/2002+Convention+and+Holidays&.dnm=Washerboys.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 24148-11/13/2002-09:52 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat
MESSAGE: Hi Frigilux. No I haven't gone undercover and yes I have seen both Greg and myself in the same room at the same time :).
I have recieved a big promotion at work, but its going to keep me very busy for the next few months, so I wont have much time for the club during the day. I have to learn a whole new computer programming language and at the same time I'm part of a big system reconfig team. In the evenings I've been so tired that I don't feel like being on the computer.
I'm still around and do look occassionally, just taking a bit of a needed break while I'm concentrating hard on something else for a bit.
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Post# 24149-11/13/2002-09:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY
MESSAGE: Brent,
What a cool story about the laundromat in Louisiana. We should save that one. Overhere in Europe laundromats seem to come back again. In Germany there is even a kind of pub where you can do your laundry. What would a laundromat have to cost at the moment? And can you make a living out of one?
Louis
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Post# 24150-11/13/2002-12:22 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY
MESSAGE: Brent-Aucoin:
I have also checked out the Speed Queen F/L Commercial Washer that is featured in today's POD. And while I don't know EXACTLY the years these were made, I do know that their are several laundromats around here in the Washington, D. C. area in which these machines are still in use. So then, in my estimation, I guess this machine is anywhere from 20-25 years old. I don't know that for certain though. Maybe we need to ask some of these "coin" laundry experts right here in "Classic Appliances", eh????
But in whatever case, the lady in the picture isn't bad looking either. Damn..... maybe I just met my new wife (hehehehehehehehehe!!!!!!!). What do any of you think????
--Charles--
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Post# 24151-11/13/2002-12:22 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
Uni Surfaces/Foraloysius
MESSAGE: Uni--- good luck with your promotion and computer language. We Minnesota boys have to look for one another---easy to get lost here in the winter! :)
Foraloysius--- I was unable to open the link on your last message. :(
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Post# 24152-11/13/2002-12:24 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY (WHERE????)
MESSAGE: What's the name of the place? How do I get to it? I wanna check these machines out. Thanks.
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Post# 24153-11/13/2002-13:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Uni Surfaces/Foraloysius
MESSAGE: Yahoo was acting up again, try again later.
Louis
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Post# 24154-11/13/2002-13:56 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
Washerboys Picture
MESSAGE: Foraloysius--- I tried again and was able to access your link with the Washerboys picture. Great! Who is in the picture? Is this a picture that proves both Uni and Gansky have been in a room at the same time? I have not had the pleasure of attending a convention, so I don't know who everyone is.
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Post# 24155-11/13/2002-14:40 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washerboys Picture
MESSAGE: From left to right:
Appnut
Unimatic1140
Golittlesport
Scott55405
Gansky1
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Post# 24156-11/13/2002-14:49 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washerboys Picture
MESSAGE: From left to right: Bob (Appnut), Robert (Unimatic1140), Rich (Golittlesport), Scott (Scott55405) and Greg (Gansky1).
Is there a picture from you somewhere online?
Hope to meet you at the next convention!
Louis
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Post# 24157-11/13/2002-14:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washerboys Picture
MESSAGE: I was on the phone while writing my message, it took me a while to post....
BTW, meet Glenn (Dadoes) doing a typical convention thing: Putting an arm in a washer.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/2002+Convention+and+Holidays&.dnm=Club+habit.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 24158-11/13/2002-20:00 ||| zzzzz (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Maytag Atlantis (Not-so-perforated tub...)
MESSAGE: Appnut--Thanks for the insight. I saw the picture linked from post #24122, so I guess looks can be deceiving, like the bogus 1-18 I talked about earlier.
Z.
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Post# 24159-11/13/2002-20:28 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
WO-65 Update/Advice
MESSAGE: Greg, Robert or anyone else with Unimatic experience:
I've got the new washtub installed in the basement, and the Frigidaire WO-65 washer hooked up and running, sans the agitator cap (gotta get that comment in again). Just a few questions, before I move it to its permanent spot; when the machine agitates or spins there is a tinny clatter that comes and goes. Is that the motor switch still in need of cleaning? Also noticed when I was cleaning the old oil film and dirt under the machine was the fact that the motor fan has about half an inch of free play when you try to move it around by hand before it catches and moves the tub. Is that normal? The tinny sound seems to be coming from the lower part of the motor. I thought it might be a loose fan assembly shaking around, but I'm not sure. Is that fan part alone able to be tightened up without removing it? Any comments appreciated.
Ken
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Post# 24160-11/13/2002-21:36 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washerboys Picture (Thanks a bunch!!!)
MESSAGE: A big thank-you hug to both Jason and Bob for the convention video. You did a great job!! Sure brings back lots of good memories!! Thanks again.
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Post# 24161-11/13/2002-21:39 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat (congratulations!!)
MESSAGE: Congratulations Robert on the promotion!! I am very happy for you!!
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Post# 24162-11/13/2002-21:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: WO-65 Update/Advice
MESSAGE: Hi Ken - It sounds like your motor fan is loose on the motor shaft. The fan is held tight on the motor shaft by the pump impeller shaft. The only way to tighten this is to remove the cross-brace from the bottom of the cabinet, remove the pump cover and tighten the pump impeller screw. This was the (initial) problem with my WO-65. Robert and I fixed this when he was here back in January - here's a picture of the bottom of the pump.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire+1950+WO65+%26+TR60+Filtrator&.dnm=Pump+Screw+Repair.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 24163-11/13/2002-21:50 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washerboys Picture
MESSAGE: Howdy!
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Post# 24164-11/13/2002-22:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat
MESSAGE: Don't work too hard, and don't forget to check for messages from the recycler!
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Post# 24165-11/13/2002-22:03 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: SPEED QUEEN PIC-OF-THE-DAY
MESSAGE: There is a laundromat in the next town over that still has three of these machines still in operation...........
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Post# 24166-11/13/2002-22:15 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: WO-65 Update/Advice
MESSAGE: Exactly right Greg. But Ken be sure to remove that pump impeller screw and put a small amount of blue Loctite (available at any hardware store) on the screw threads. Let it dry overnight before running the machine so the vibration wont loosen it.
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Post# 24167-11/13/2002-22:16 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Truly Vintage whirlpool dishwasher (pics?)
MESSAGE: sounds very interesting, are you able to post any pics of the interior and/or exterior??
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Post# 24168-11/13/2002-22:20 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
I was an inch...
MESSAGE: I was an inch from getting my 1/18 dream machine... Then someone stole it out from under me... I feel horrible...:-(
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Post# 24169-11/13/2002-22:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: WO-65 Update/Advice
MESSAGE: and then...;-) you'll need a new pump gasket as well, Ken. I remember my first gasket making attempt! We used rolled cork and used the pump cover for a template. Don't worry if you have to cut a few "practice" ones before getting it right! Be sure to clean off all traces of the old gasket before re-installing the cover and new gasket. If you are lucky, you'll have some new gaskets in your parts stash.
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Post# 24170-11/13/2002-23:09 ||| Jjosh (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Maytag Atlantis (Newest Atlantis)
MESSAGE: Hi too Arrrooohhh, Yes, I just saw the newest release of the latest Maytag Atlantis t/l washer. It really does look beautiful, I must say. The vertically placed mechanical series pushbuttons unfortunately have been eliminated. I also like the 'old style' push button models becomming more and more rare these days. However, the new Atlantis has utilized a very unique type of rotary switch. It remindes me more or less of a 'lever' style rotary switch...somewhat retro or art deco looking. The switches are elongated and metallic in color. The medallion on the lid has also changed to appear more 'retro' (horizontally elongated medallion). The console now takes on a somewhat curved shape...very similiar the the latest Frigidaire t/l's. Finally, it appears that the agitator has undergone some very moderate configuration changes. The flex-fins now sport a ridge design which matches the ridge design of the f/l Neptune's drum vanes. Also the 'micro-vanes' between the flex-fins now appear to have a 'stepped' appearance. Other than these cosmetic changes, Im not sure, if any, mechanical changes have been made. Please post if there is more info. available....
Jjosh
LINK: http://
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Post# 24171-11/13/2002-23:10 ||| Jjosh (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT:
Sorry about the Link
MESSAGE: Im new, so I dont know how to post a link. I did'nt mean to place the 'link' site in my message!
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Post# 24172-11/14/2002-00:01 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Kenmore Agitator (Is that a Thin Twin?!)
MESSAGE: Hi Pulsator,
Yep thats a thin twin, i'd have to move that little monster over to the outlet to run it so i took some pictures of it as it is and i also took a picture of a 24 inch washer washing which is the same as the thin twin except the thin twins tub isn't as deep. The 24 incher is under my washers and the thin twins in its own album. Enjoy!
~Steven
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/washerstuff
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Post# 24173-11/14/2002-00:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat
MESSAGE: Wow!!! I knew I was in the presence of esteemed company, but I didn't know THAT esteemed.
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Post# 24174-11/14/2002-07:05 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat (Uni and Gansky in 1 room...)
MESSAGE: Remember the old story about how there are only a couple of people who know the true formula for Coca-cola, and they are never allowed in the one room together, in case some something should happen to them and the knowledge they share would be lost...
Maybe with their intimate knowledge of the darkest innermost secrets of the Unimatic mechanism, for posterity we may have to introduce the same rule for Uni and Gansky... ;)
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 24175-11/14/2002-07:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Brent Visits Vintage Laundromat (Uni and Gansky in 1 room...)
MESSAGE: Oh no - not me! Robert and Jon Charles maybe, I'm just beginning my unimatic career experience!
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Post# 24176-11/14/2002-11:10 ||| Gwleong (California)
SUBJECT:
Vintage Admiral Refrigerator
MESSAGE:
I have an old Admiral refrigerator that I want to get rid of but I was told there might be some interest in the unit. It was bought new by my parents in the mid 50's and has been plugged in and running pretty much continuously since then. Believe it or not, it still works as new!! It is cosmetically perfect for it's age, slight crack in the plastic interior, but still hold the temperature fine.
The exterior has not been dented or scratched.
I really hate to part with it but I need the space. It's truly a nice looking piece....like an old car...white with lots of chrome trim. I can get the model number if necessary. This is a single door unit with an 'internal' freezer door.
Please let me know if anyone is interested.
Thanks!
Gary
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Post# 24177-11/14/2002-13:56 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Vintage Admiral Refrigerator
MESSAGE: Hi Gary,
I wish I was closer, I would love to check it out, but I am in MAss. Have you thought of putting it on ebay? or there are a couple websites that may be able to help you out, one being...
www.antiqueappliances.com
they restore stoves and frigs and are always looking for used.
or ... www.theoldapplianceclub.com ....
they are always looking for old, used appliances, and/or you could place a for sale ad in either one.........., but if you want to sell it, taking some pics and putting it out on ebay might be the best way in my opinion, good luck.........
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Post# 24178-11/14/2002-16:34 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: WO-65 Update/Advice (follow-up)
MESSAGE: Greg/Robert:
Thanks for your response. May I conclude that there should be NO free play in the fan before it turns the tub?
Hope to get the repair this weekend. Is it unlikely that part of the fan blade/assembly is worn out and not tightenable? What's the collective experience with this repair? I suppose I'll find out when I open it.
P.S. I carefully removed the pulsator/agitator to check the bellows before running the machine again. It looks great. Either it was a very high quality rubber that's lasted fifty years (unlikely), or it has at some point been replaced. Incredibly, there are no cuts, cracks or signs of age on it.
Also, to Robert: Good luck with your new position or promotion!
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Post# 24179-11/14/2002-23:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: WO-65 Update/Advice (follow-up)
MESSAGE: Hi Ken - You could have a worn out fan blade, but more likely, the pump screw just needs to be tightened. Try this first, there should be little or no up and down wobble in the fan blade if it's being held tight by the pump shaft. I ended up taking mine apart several times for various reasons and need to once again to replace the pump seal now, just as soon as I find one!
Good luck, we should be around this weekend so call if you need anything - it's a relatively simple part of the unimatic so it should go well.
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Post# 24180-11/14/2002-23:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: I was an inch...
MESSAGE: Don't worry Jamie - your 1-18 day will come.
;-)
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Post# 24181-11/15/2002-06:40 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
GREAT AUNT KENMORE'S UPPER SPIN BEARING
MESSAGE: It started with a cricket leg, actually. My '53 Kenmore started spewing water sidewards, out between the top and the side of the cabinet. Fortunately, I was right there when it happened so I stopped filling and removed the top of the washer to find a cricket leg laying on the screen between the stream of water and the washtub,,,,and this leg was the perfect diverter for the water - I was sure I had blown a hose to the fill flume - but, sure enough, cricket leg.
Yesterday, after two loads of laundry, I removed the agitator (so it will dry, and to wipe clean the spin tube, like my Grandmother taught me to do) and I noticed a rather high ambient temperature near the spanner nut area...so this morning I have taken the old girl apart for upper bearing lubrication....there will be pictures if anyone is interested in seeing inside a 50 year old kenmore....I did have this apart about 12 years ago, so it came apart like a sweetheart this time....There's nothing like a good, deep internal lubrication to get your day started off right.
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Post# 24182-11/15/2002-07:21 ||| Rickpro (Ransomville NY)
SUBJECT:
GE Electric Stove
MESSAGE: We have a Vintage 1946? GE elecrtic stove that has CLOROX surface elements that need replaced they are 7-1/2" across and 5 -3/4" IF ANYONE CAN HELP PLEASE CONTACT ME. thank you.
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Post# 24183-11/15/2002-08:25 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Electric Stove
MESSAGE: Chromalox?
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Post# 24184-11/15/2002-09:10 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Electric Stove (chromalox oracles)
MESSAGE: I wonder if the gas oracles need replacing too...just kidding, of course...
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Post# 24185-11/15/2002-11:27 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Electric Stove (chromalox oracles COROX ELEMENTS - details..)
MESSAGE: I think the guy means to say COROX, of course, and many of you fellows who strip electric ranges likely have just what they need on the shelf....
Is the burner a two or a three wire element, and is it controlled by pushbuttons, rotary type infinite switch, or perhaps the 5 or 7 position heat switch...Also need to know if it's a 6 or an 8 inch burner....I'll bet John LeFever has one..most certainly he does....is there anyone more likely to have one than John?
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Post# 24186-11/15/2002-11:31 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Electric Stove
MESSAGE: it might be "calrod"
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Post# 24187-11/15/2002-14:46 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Electric Stove (calrod or corox)
MESSAGE: True, it would have to be a Westinghouse range to be a Corox burner, unless someone put westinghouse elements into a Ge Range, which would have had Calrod burners.....
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Post# 24188-11/15/2002-15:23 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
NEARLY ALL BACK TOGETHER NOW
MESSAGE: Inner tub is all back in now, but I'm gonna let a little rustoleum dry a spell while I go to the gym...I've taken about 50 pictures...everything's looking swell for the old girl to be running later tonight...
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Post# 24189-11/15/2002-15:37 ||| Kittynoir (Austin TX)
SUBJECT:
Any Kenmore gas stove renovators in Texas??
MESSAGE: Hi I just joined
We have a 1940's or 1950's Kenmore gas stove that we would dearly love to find someone to fix up
we live in Austin
great looking group!
thanks!
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Post# 24190-11/15/2002-16:05 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: NEARLY ALL BACK TOGETHER NOW
MESSAGE: A-n-t-i-c-i-p-a-t-i-o-n
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Post# 24191-11/15/2002-17:24 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Electric Stove
MESSAGE: Rickpro, there is a large appliance parts distributor in Buffalo across from the main post office on William Street. I'll bet they would be able to help you. The name of the concern is "Appliance Parts Distributors" or APD. You probably would want to take the failed elements with you, so they can be matched.
Have fun....Leslie
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Post# 24192-11/15/2002-18:02 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
Balanced load
MESSAGE: Yeah, yeah, I know my question is about a new machine, but I know someone out there has got the answer.
I watched my Equator 3600cee balance ?, distribute? load before a spin and realized it does it differently each time depending on load. How does it know when load is at optimum balance point? Did the vintage units do this also?
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Post# 24193-11/15/2002-18:09 ||| Jille (los angeles)
SUBJECT:
Pink GE Stove
MESSAGE: My grandmother bought a condo which has a really cool
pale pink GE stove. We have heard that the GE stove in
this color was only available in Miami, FL. (which is
where she is living.) Does anyone have any info?
Thanks! :)
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Post# 24194-11/15/2002-19:52 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: WO-65 Update/Advice (final follow-up )
MESSAGE: Greg, the reason I was trying to reclarify the status of the possibly loose fan to you, is that there is little or NO UP and DOWN wobble in the fan blade. As I said there is about a half of inch of free play in the blade (BACK AND FORTH) before it catches and turns the tub. It still sounds clattery like loose metal nonetheless. When you turn the fan, it's something like free play backpedaling in a multi-speed bicycle before the gear catches and turns the wheel. Is THAT OK? I don't want to start to take it apart for the wrong reason. Final question on this subject for now, I promise. If I get into the repair on Sunday and have more questions, I'll give you a call.
P.S. Other than the cork gasket, will other parts be reusable, I hope. I'll remove them very carefully. Also I noticed you had your machine face-front down. Any advantage to that? I was still going to tip it opposite the timer to avoid oil spillage, but I suppose your way will be OK too.
Anyway, back to the initial point in this post. Based on only the back and forth loose motion in the fan, should I still go ahead and take it apart? What do you think?
Ken
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Post# 24195-11/15/2002-21:27 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!!
MESSAGE: On the 48th birthday of the gearbox, the machine gets a good lube job...The appliance Gods had something to do with that one, you can be sure.
O.K. guys. Long loading page. Lots of photos.
Enjoy.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/KENMORE/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24196-11/15/2002-22:06 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Pink Maytag dryer for sale!
MESSAGE: " It is from the late 60's and we used to use it for a while." States the seller of this beauty. I f you can fork over $200.00, your all set!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2072351298
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Post# 24197-11/15/2002-22:24 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT:
I-18 Frigidaire Jetcone
MESSAGE: Does the model number WCDT mean anything? It is on the back of my machine. I have tried to enter it into parts catalogs and the Frigidaire Support site to get an owners manual and I have come up empty. I did get postive response for WC-6G, which is close to looking like my model, but not quite. Mine is poppy red, with no lid window and has more options for wash/rinse temps and soak cycle than the WC-6G. Any rhyme or reason as to how Frigidaire put out model numbers?
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Post# 24198-11/15/2002-22:26 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: I was an inch...
MESSAGE: It isn't sold yet, just alot of inquires and a bid for $450.00.
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Post# 24199-11/15/2002-22:42 ||| steved (Albany, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: I-18 Frigidaire Jetcone (WCDT model)
MESSAGE: Hi, the WCDT model is prolly from 1971 or 72. W = washer, CD = Custom Deluxe and T = model year. I think they also had a WCD3T, as a followup model. The 3 was an indication of some change in the warranty terms, or such. It was the most popular model of its series, with speed, water temp and infinite water level choices. Im sure it wont come up on the Frigidaire support site cause of its age.... SteveD
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Post# 24200-11/15/2002-22:45 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!! (Great Job Bob!!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for all the neat pictures Bob. This was a very interesting project. Hope you will post some pictures when you have her all put back together.
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Post# 24201-11/15/2002-22:50 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!! (Buggy appliances)
MESSAGE: Well now I've heard it all, the first real bug in a computer program was indeed a real bug in a transistor, now a bug in an appliances is indeed a bug =) Great work bob that machine looks great under her hood. Its so amazing that the underneath of my 75 whirlpool is so similar to that machine, they must have made a fortune on that design and here frigidaire changed their designs alot to make their machine continually better (err up to a point when wci took em)
anyway enough yackin gotta get crackin.
~Steven
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Post# 24202-11/15/2002-23:48 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!! (11 15 54 )
MESSAGE: After 48 years - this is Great
Best of Luck
Peter
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Post# 24203-11/15/2002-23:48 ||| chopper (Michigan City, Indiana)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1948 Dormeyer Power Chef Model 4000 stand mixer (WACEM)
MESSAGE: Hey Louis! I've been there done that too! thanks!
LINK: http://www.evescustomcrafts.com
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Post# 24204-11/16/2002-00:47 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: I-18 Frigidaire Jetcone (WCDT model)
MESSAGE: Steve, thanks for the info. I just want an owners manual for this machine, and you are right, the parts deparments don't recognize it. I will try WCD3t, though. I love the machine, but it is too huge capacity for my septic tank at my summer home, and would like to trade or sell so I can get a front-loader. So far, I have been offered $450, buyer pays shipping. Well, it is in immaculate shape. I almost hate to part with it. Maybe I will trade it out with my Maytag A-107 in the city?
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Post# 24205-11/16/2002-01:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Balanced load
MESSAGE: On the Appliances Forum there is a thread (RE: Combo Washer / Dryers - Part 7) where issues about combos are discussed. One of the most active members (Tom) of that forum has an Equator himself. I'm sure he will be glad to help you out with your question. Click on the link and you will be taken to the Appliances Forum.
Louis
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/appl/
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Post# 24206-11/16/2002-01:52 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!!
MESSAGE: Wonderful job Bob. I'm impressed that you did this even without busted knockles or blood loss. Hope to see some pictures of her when she's all back together again.
Take care,
Louis
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Post# 24207-11/16/2002-08:05 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!! (Thanks Bob!)
MESSAGE: Bob,
Great job with the photo's! You make it look so simple and fun.
Same request, can you post some pictures of her together?
Also, you mentioned that this machine was for your Grand Mother? Did she have the dryer also?
Thanks Bob!
Brent
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Post# 24208-11/16/2002-08:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: GEARBOX DATED 11 15 54 - TODAY'S DATE 48 YEARS AGO!!
MESSAGE: What a beautiful washer Bob- it is truly in remarkable condition for it's age too! This was my grandmother's first automatic washer and dryer, she had the washer for only five years and then bought a Maytag. I'm not exactly sure why, perhaps it was just a simple cricket leg problem!
Beautiful work and thanks for the pictures!
Greg
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Post# 24209-11/16/2002-08:57 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
Great Aunt Kenmore thanks you all! (well, most of you)
MESSAGE: This morning Great Aunt kenmore tells me she feels just like an internet celebrity, and she wishes me to thank you all for your interest.
As far as shots of the old girl all back together, well, that IS all back together , except for the top, which really doesn't bear any electrical functions, and is just a dust cover, really , for what you see there underneath....This week I'll be painting the floor, so I'm leaving the top off a minute so I can move the old girl more easily around the room myself...
O.K. men.. Keep those machines running properly, and be sure to fix 'em up right away when they're not.. Sitting idle is one of the worst things for a vintage washer....they dry up and get stuck.....it's better to use your machines lightly, but regularly, to maintain their operation.
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Post# 24210-11/16/2002-08:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: WO-65 Update/Advice (final follow-up )
MESSAGE: Hi Ken -
There shouldn't be any play in that fan - the pump screw needs to be tighted to stop the noise.
We had the machine lying on it's front because we were changing the oil at the same time so don't worry about that right now, just tip it on it's left side (from the front) to keep the vent tube from leaking oil.
Greg
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Post# 24211-11/16/2002-09:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pink GE Stove
MESSAGE: "Petal Pink" was GE's version of the color popularized in part by the color of a dress worn by Mamie Eisenhower to Ike's swearing in as the 34th President of the US in January, 1953. Pink, turquoise and bright yellow were very popular throughout the 1950's and early 1960's and were available nationwide from most appliance manufacturers.
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Post# 24212-11/16/2002-11:03 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT:
Maytag help
MESSAGE: What a busy week collecting. Amongst the items found was a mdl #A606 Maytag washer which doesn't seem to have leaked any oil but does not seem to spin very fast. The motor seems alright It functions in either speed. Could the belt be slipping?
Was this made around 1970?
Is there some way of determining year of manufacture from the model # tags on Maytag?
Also I found a mdl #GA512 from I assume the early 1980's since the control panel is flat. Its Harvest gold, what a find. In good condition but when I leaned it on its side to slide it into my vehicle and bring home it was discovered that it has leaked oil in a major way. Not just from below. That is like my only complaint about Maytag-when they leak, they make a mess. At least GE and Whirlpool when they leak there is a good chance it will be contained or spun out onto the side walls. I have never taken apart a Maytag transmission. And there is a warning label about being spring loaded. How difficult is it to repair a maytag transmission?
I was wondering when Maytag changed from the bi-angle control panel of the late 60's and early 70's to the flat panel.
Among other dated periodicals a GE Freezer manual was found dating to 1948, at least it reads "Rev. 3-48". The manual tells how to prepare and cook with your new GE chest freezer. There is a picture of a old GE freezer on the front, in B&W, with small elves or children or something running around with food items to put in the appliance. Inside there are pictures of "classic", as the term may be used, GE appliances in use as well as other 1940's fashions and techniques. The book doesn't really serve me, but I thought it might be of interest to someone here. Let me know.
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Post# 24213-11/16/2002-11:41 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag help (Maytag control panels)
MESSAGE: If I understand your descriptions properly, Maytag went from the bi angle control panel with the cycle dial in the middle to the flat panel with the cycle dial at the right in 1981. The Bi angle panel first made its debut in 1967. Harvest gold was offered as late as the mid 1980's (circa 1984) by alot of manufactures so I do believe your assesment of the GA512 would be correct
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Post# 24214-11/16/2002-11:46 ||| joeekaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT:
Saturday, November 17, 2002 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: Yeah! Yeah! More pictures of women who do their laundry in white go-go dresses and patent-leather heels!! :)
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Post# 24215-11/16/2002-12:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Saturday, November 17, 2002 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: I don't know about that as a possibility. I think she might have been the ONLY one who did laundry like that.........
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Post# 24216-11/16/2002-18:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Saturday, November 17, 2002 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: I don't know, but mayhbe being a go-go dancer and the heels helped knock out the dirt in the laundry quicker!!!! Or helped you dance through laundry day much faster.
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Post# 24217-11/16/2002-20:25 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Saturday, November 17, 2002 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: She sure is goovy, man. But what's with that kitchen placement? She must not have had any dorothies handy to design in a nice laundry closet. Poor thing!
Or is that her upscale laundry room, complete with sink and cabinets for hand washables? Too bad she couldn't afford a matching dryer! She may have spent all her extra cash on shoes!
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Post# 24218-11/16/2002-20:43 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: Saturday, November 17, 2002 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: i like it, Its very 70's. love the laminate countertop.
What I didn't get was the pic from a couple of days ago where a woman was standing behind a commercial washer with a Williamsburg chandelier hanging from the right upper frame. Was this in her dining room in Connecticut or what. And who were they selling too?
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Post# 24219-11/17/2002-07:11 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: GREAT AUNT KENMORE'S UPPER SPIN BEARING (cricket leg)
MESSAGE: HI IMPERIALBOB,
How big was the cricket leg? The ones we get here would barely be able to make any difference to the flow. How big are crickets where you are???
I loved the photos. The solid transmission pulley - is that normal on newer models in the USA? The sixties and seventies ones made here in Aus had a cast aluminium pulley with (I think) five spokes. I am wondering if that is an old/new difference, or an Aus/USA difference?
That's a lovely old machine you have there, you must be very proud of it.
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 24220-11/17/2002-07:31 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Balanced load
MESSAGE: Hi Comboboy.
I can't help with specific info on your Equator, but there are two main ways that microprocessor controlled machines detect balanced/imbalanced loads - 1. Pendulum switch. A pendulum is mounted on the outer drum assembly. If when starting to spin the pendulum swings enough to trigger a microswitch next to it, the processor interprests this as unbalanced and tries again to distribute the load. 2. Motor monitoring. The motor is given a short burst of power, after which the processor monitors the behaviour of the motor as it coasts to rest again (either with an external tacho coil, or monitoring back-EMF pulses from the motor's own windings). If the motor turns in uneven bursts, and quickly stops, it is unbalanced. > machine tries to redistribute. If the motor coasts evenly and slows down at a moderate rate, it is balanced and continues into spin.
Most older front loaders have no unbalance detection. They rely on the ability of their suspension to absorb any unbalance. Some are much better than others at this. Some only had two speeds (tumble and spin) so relied on the tumble speed to distribute the load, which can be a bit erratic. Others had a specific "distribute" speed, about 100 rpm, which was better at throwing clothes evenly around the drum.
The Hoover Keymatic of the 1960's had only two speeds, but unusually did have an out of balance shut off - a lever inside connected to the main on-off switch protruded near the drum, so if the drum got off balance, the machine would turn off - you would actually see the red rocker switch flick over to "off" by itself. Re-starting was a matter of pressing the rocker back to on, and the motor would have to accelerate from rest to full spin speed with no distribute phase the second time, which put a huge strain on the motor. Fortunately Keymatics were cable suspended, and had a vey forgiving suspension, so only rarely got out of balance.
Chris.
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Post# 24221-11/17/2002-08:44 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
Maytag (POD)
MESSAGE: The Maytag laundry girl looks so much like Reese Witherspoon.
She is legally blonde and always in fashion!
LINK: http://www.mgm.com/legallyblonde/
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Post# 24222-11/17/2002-09:01 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
ANOTHER BUG IN THE WORKS!~
MESSAGE: Cold water failed to close completely on Great Aunt Kenmore and caused a lazy stream to trickle over the side of the tub and wet the floor....good thing I still had the top off and was right there when it started happening.....Turned out to be another ugly bug, this time INSIDE the water inlet valve, between the black rubber diaphram and the sealing lips of the valve....I'll post photos later, as well as a reinactment of the cricket leg water diversion....
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Post# 24223-11/17/2002-09:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag (POD)
MESSAGE: Avocado green 'Tags, a fine 70s chick in a laundromat:
YEAH BABY!!!!
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Post# 24224-11/17/2002-09:23 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: ANOTHER BUG IN THE WORKS!~ (poor girl)
MESSAGE: Well, good thing you fixed her. Those early Kenmores are so interesting. They look so "primitive" compared to the later model belt drive Kenmores. The filler and the water level ball is different, but very cool.
Do those early machines make that cool "Grrrrind-click-clunk" like the later models?
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Post# 24225-11/17/2002-10:00 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT:
blue mid 60s lady kenmore
MESSAGE: I don't know if anyone is interested but I saw a 60s blue Lady Kenmore dryer at a dealer that was in quite good condition. I know that he has had it for over a year. Its in the Milwaukee, WI area. E me if your interested I can give more details.
Love the Pic of Day. God Avacodo, I have yet to find Avacodo anything other than tupperware. love Vintage 70s'(& 80's)
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Post# 24226-11/17/2002-10:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: blue mid 60s lady kenmore (WOOHOO)
MESSAGE: Now you're talkin'. 60s and 70s design is my favorite also. I love gold and copper but avocado rules. I know lots of people hate avocado but I think it's just gr00vy baby.
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Post# 24227-11/17/2002-12:24 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT:
watch what you say about crickets !
MESSAGE: I have pet tree frogs that live in my ficus trees(in a terrarium) and they eat live crickets (or crickis, as I call them) Although they are food, each batch has its own unique characteristic. They are family- for a while. Besides, I don't think I have ever seen a crick leg in an appli. i have seen elephant ear parts though. oy, what a mess that can make when it gets into a condenser fan.
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Post# 24228-11/17/2002-12:29 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: blue mid 60s lady kenmore (WOOHOO)
MESSAGE: yeh, but U live in Loisiana, Are you going to drive up here to get it. It snowed here last night, first this season. I could buy it and ship it. Do you want a picture?
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Post# 24229-11/17/2002-12:40 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT:
This excitement is for everyone.
MESSAGE: I got today a batch of 80's vacuums electrolux, & kenmmore. Only 9 canisters, but 26 powerheads. For a petty amount. Dream situation a guy looking to liquidate or sell his business, and of course move to Arizona. Nice guy though. We went into his wharehouse in back and there sits all these machines. Canisters but mainly uprights. I'm only interested in canisters. Now I know that everyone in here has interests and is pursuing different "vintages"-styles, ages, colors, manufactures, and so forth. But the joy of finding that seemingly illusive ideal is universal, it just gives you this tickle from just below your heart, you know. So I share that joyess feeling with everyone, that you too will find that what makes you happy.
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Post# 24230-11/17/2002-19:08 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
BUGS!
MESSAGE: Here's a couple of photos showing the beetle bug that crawled into the water inlet valve of Great Aunt Kenmore...as well as an excellent example of open dating on appliance parts, and even a re-inactment of the cricket leg on the inlet screen scenario......
for your enjoyment.
PEACE.
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/VALVE/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24231-11/17/2002-19:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag (POD)
MESSAGE: THAT was the EXACT wasaher & color I had in my freshman dorm's laundry area in fall, 1973, at UT Austin. New dorm, it opened late 1969 or 1970.
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Post# 24232-11/17/2002-20:24 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: BUGS!
MESSAGE: Bob, ya'll seem to grow big ole crickets up there! I'd be afraid something with a leg like that could carry the cats away!
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Post# 24233-11/17/2002-22:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: blue mid 60s lady kenmore (WOOHOO)
MESSAGE: Jason, I don't remember if you ever said, but was your Mom's Kenmore 800 avacado?
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Post# 24234-11/18/2002-06:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: blue mid 60s lady kenmore (WOOHOO)
MESSAGE: No. It was white. But I'd take a Kenmore 800 in any color.
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Post# 24235-11/18/2002-06:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD - my grandma's dryer
MESSAGE: My grandma had the dryer in the POD until about 1978 when she got a lady Kenmore dryer. The dryer had rotary controls but it's electronic. It's not a "timer" it's more like a selector. The dryer is still running today. I wish that 60s Kenmore 70 series washer was still there.
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Post# 24236-11/18/2002-07:47 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (SELECTOR, NOT A DIAL)
MESSAGE: The Gas dryer I use for the bulk of my drying is one of those Electronic models with the dial...It's my newest 'vintage' machine, at only 35 years of age, it still features spark ignition (as opposed to glow ignitors) and has a full console light as well as interior light, and hamper door. Dryness is determined by counting the number of times static discharges against an electronic sensor pad, located on the rear bulkhead of the dryer. In other words, this dryer thinks for itself, and eliminates all guesswork regarding length of drying time. This dryer also features soft heat, which means the actual size of the flame will change depending upon the demands of the heat load....towards the end of the drying process, the flame will actually reduce in size and power so as not to overdry permanent press items.....
This is no Norge Timeline dryer, that's for sure.
Also, the trick to changing the lint filter on a whirlpool/kenmore type dryer is to do it with the machine RUNNING ...this causes a strong down draft near the filter opening which can be used to 'vacuum' the lint away from the top by gently influencing the lint towards the opening by blowing...with your lips...then replace the filter, close the door, and there's no lint anywhere.
In a GE or a westinghouse dryer, the lint screen is in the door opening, and even when the filter is removed(where possible), some lint always remains in the door opening, right where you drag your clean clothes across removing them...sure to pick up the lint.
I much prefer the top mounted lint screen. There is never lint build up in the door opening.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/CONTROL/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24237-11/18/2002-08:11 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (SELECTOR, NOT A DIAL)
MESSAGE: Bob,
Interesting dryer setup. I have never seen the "static discharge" sensor system before. Do you feel it is better/worse than the "moisture" sensors more typical today? Would using dryer sheets (softner), or any softner, effect the sensor? Would there be any chance of damage from loose change or other metallic stuff bouncing off sensor?
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Post# 24238-11/18/2002-08:31 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (STATIC SENSOR)
MESSAGE: The moisture sensors of more modern work exactly the same way.....not by feeling moisture, per say, but by feeling the number of times static discharges against a sensor....
Oh my goodness, it's againt the law to use dryer sheets, so I wouldn't think of using them in my dryer, but I did grow up using them in a 68 Lady Kenmore dryer (avacado), and they did not seem to affect the dryer's operation at all. Mom still has that dryer...Mom's 75 and the dryer is NEARLY half that.....
The problem with dryer sheets is that they deposit a sticky substance all over the inside of the dryer, which eventually builds up on the lint screen ( in a nearly imperceptible manner) and slows down the air flow...the same stickyness causes lint to build up inside the vent more quickly.
Liquid fabric softener is the way to go, as you also get the added benefit of superior rinsing. It also does a better job of 'lubricating' the fabric, which decreases wear & tear, and will never cause a problem with the dryer.
Of course, this is only my Opinion, based on learning gathered in the service field from thousands of house wives' experience, not just my own.
BOB
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Post# 24239-11/18/2002-08:34 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
dryer sheets
MESSAGE: Use of dryer sheets also quickly accelerates rusting inside dryers already missing the drum coating...
Mr. Garrison says...
'Dryer sheets are bad, mmmkay?'
BOB
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Post# 24240-11/18/2002-08:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag help (GE oil)
MESSAGE: I can attest that some GE's will weep oil slowly, much like a Kenmore will sometimes, but when the main oil seal blows on a GE, it is worse than the Exxon Valdes spill. Seems like gallons of that stuff is stored in that tranny and it goes everywhere, stains everything, and take a loooooong time to clean up!
-ph
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Post# 24241-11/18/2002-08:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: BUGS!
MESSAGE: You got to love those Camelback crickets! I have a crawlspace under the house with hurds of them in there. The ones that make it up into the house become cat toys, and then cat snacks, and I often find only the large legs lying at different places throughout the house. YUKKY!!!
-ph
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Post# 24242-11/18/2002-09:36 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (SELECTOR, NOT A DIAL)
MESSAGE: Bob, I had the same model dryer you have. I finally used it for parts and still have the control panel if you want it.
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Post# 24243-11/18/2002-10:29 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - my grandma's dryer
MESSAGE: An aunt of mine had the top-loading version of this Westy. I never cared very much for top-loading Westys.
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Post# 24244-11/18/2002-11:34 ||| gwleong (California)
SUBJECT:
Appliance Reviews
MESSAGE: Just wondering if anyone knows of a 'consumer reports'-like source for reading comparison tests on high end, commercial appliances. (i.e. Viking, Sub Zero, etc.)
Thanks.
Gary
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Post# 24245-11/18/2002-11:44 ||| Bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: dryer sheets (Dryer Sheets)
MESSAGE: Bob, I agree with you on the use of dryer sheets. I do laundry and lots of it. Over the years I have tried the dryer sheets and found that they coat the fabric and not really get into the fabric to soften them. I found that using the sheets made me itch but using liquid softener it's just fine and softens through & through. Back in 1974/75 I was using the Cling Free spray and it damaged the finish on my Whirlpool dryer. It caused it to pit and eventually rust. I ended up having to replace the drum, what a mess and unnecessary expense.
Bruce
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Post# 24246-11/18/2002-12:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (Kenmore dryers)
MESSAGE: I hear ya! I have a GE dryer with the front mounted lint screen. I would love to find a 1970 Lady kenmore or Kenmore 800 dryer.
I know that spark sound well. The last time I heard the Kenmore gas dryer sound was only 2 years ago right before our 600(?) dryer almost caught on fire. I'll never forget those sounds.
You push the button and it goes:
"hummm (motor running) TICKTICKTICKTICKTICKTICKTICK CLICK! hummmmmm ... squeek squeek (the plastic rollers squeeked) hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm... "
The fire goes out for a while to cool off and then when the fire came back on it was TICKTICKTICKTICKTICKTICKTICK CLICK! all over again.
The new Frigidaire my mom and dad has sounds so wimpy and cheap, it's like adding insult to injury.
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Post# 24247-11/18/2002-12:44 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (POD Westinghouse Laundromat Pair/SELECTOR, NOT A DIAL (Number #2 Kenmore Dryer -- 1968))
MESSAGE: Imperial Bob:
I agree wholeheartedly when it comes to removing the lint from a GE or a Westinghouse dryer. My father has a late 1960's GE (Commercial) Dryer paired up with a late 1980's/early 1990's Kenmore D/D T/L Washer, and to think that everytime I visit home and have to do the laundry, I always have to check the lint filter first and if there is any lint left into the filter, I always clean the filter first thing before taking the clothes out of the washer and loading them into the dryer. Now, if he just had a Kenmore dryer, then that wouldn't even be an issue at all. The Westinghouse dryer that my aunt (which is his sister) had from 1970 until about 1984 was designed the same way. The lint filter was located in up front in front of the dryer instead of on the top, which was the way our Kenmore dryers were designed.
Jason:
I hear you!!!!! The Kenmore dryer that "Imperial Bob" has right now is one of my dream machines as well (check my profile....... there, you will see a long and extensive list as to what kind of vintage machines I would own if I had the space to put them..... and believe, it would be a lot of them). Only the Lady Kenmores from 1966-67, 1978, and 1989-99 would top it.
And one last question to anyone who is here at "classic appliances":
That Westinghouse pair that is featured on today's "POD", what year is that pair??? Right now, I am thinking 1963 to 1965. What do any of you think??
--Charles--
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Post# 24248-11/18/2002-15:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
ATTN: Jetcone
MESSAGE: You mailbox is giving "account is temporarily over quota" errors. Time to use that delete cycle...
-ph
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Post# 24249-11/18/2002-20:22 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Pump Repair Repercussions?
MESSAGE: Greg,
You were right about tightening up the center pump screw. After letting it sit for a while with WD-40 on it, I was able to back it up, remove and clean it. As Robert suggested, I applied Blue Lock-Tight (sp?) and securely replaced it. It certainly didn’t want to tighten up much more than the way I found it, but I got it as secure as I could. The machine sat overnight to let the screw/glue dry. I tried it this afternoon and it’s much quieter. And as you said, there is now not any free-play in the fan. Hopefully it will stay that way. The do-it-yourself cork template worked fine, and there is no leak from the bottom plate. However, did one problem lead to another? First I found a bit of water on the pump end, leaking from the tub drain hose that leads from the outer tub to the pump. Understandable after shaking around that old rubber hose. By the way, have you had to replace any of your interior hoses? I cut off a bit of the edge of old hose, cleaned it off, and reinstalled it pushed up a bit further with a new clamp. That now seems to be OK. After thoroughly drying it off, I ran it again, and now if looks like there might be a bit of water sitting on top of the base of the pump. I’m hoping it’s water that was flung off the fan or water remaining from draining the old hose, but I’m not sure. Please tell me it’s unlikely I’ve loosened up some seal now that will have to be replaced. I hope I'm just worrying too much. I just want to close up the back access opening on the washer and place it in its permanent spot, where it will stay! What sort of leak do you have in your machine? Thanks for all your help.
Ken
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Post# 24250-11/18/2002-21:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (POD - Westinghouse Pair)
MESSAGE: You are about right on the dates of the POD pair. I have the service manual for both of these, but they are not dated anywhere. I have an ad for the top-loading washers from 1964 and these are from the same model year. I'm not sure when Westy went from slant-front machines to this straight front style, but it was also very close to this time as well. Tom told us at the convention that Westinghouse "caught hell" for this side swinging washer door from customers that had grown attached to the drop-down shelf and the loss of the Weigh-to-Save scale. This model dryer had a standard timed cycle with two temperature selections. The next model up from this one had the cycling-thermostat auto-dry feature that Westy had been using from the beginning of their dryer production in the 1940's.
The link is to a small picture in the wanted/reward section of the top-loading washer of the same vintage. I want one of these!
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/WANTED/WANTED%20WESTINGHOUSE/Westinghouse-Wanted.jpg
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Post# 24251-11/18/2002-21:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pump Repair Repercussions?
MESSAGE: Congratulations - so far! It sounds like you had good success with your repair endeavors Sunday. Once everything is dry down there, run the washer again through another cycle and check the top of the pump again for water. I have a steady trickle of water from the top of the pump in my WO-65 - I had the same symptom in the '55 and it needed a new pump seal.
I know how you feel about getting it back together and installed, but unfortunately, old washers are a labor of love sometimes and they need more "nursing" for a while to get them running just right. Keep up the good work, it sounds like you are doing very well with it!
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Post# 24252-11/18/2002-22:31 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
'53whirlpoolwasher with new paint
MESSAGE: sorry for the delays on getting these photos out here, thanks for your patience, hope you like :) ......
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/vwp?.dir=/More+apps&.src=ph&.dnm=WhirlpoolWasher%2753.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst%3f%26.dir=/More%2bapps%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24253-11/18/2002-22:34 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
latest AC find
MESSAGE: model #, and serial unreadable, anybody know what year??, it works great and is in very good shape, 6,000 BTU's....
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/vwp?.dir=/More+apps&.dnm=FeddersAC.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/vwp%3f.dir=/More%2bapps%26.dnm=WhirlpoolWasher%252753-2.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 24254-11/19/2002-01:16 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT:
Today's POD
MESSAGE: WOW! Love today's pic! That's my kind of Washer/Dryer.... AND it's approved for a Medallion Home!
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Post# 24255-11/19/2002-06:14 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: '53whirlpoolwasher with new paint (What a Collection!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Thanks for the pictures!
Your machines look great!
Brent
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Post# 24256-11/19/2002-06:19 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: latest AC find (Early 80's)
MESSAGE: Greg,
I had this same model air-conditioner when I was in college. I bought it for a room that I rented in a home. It was a great air-conditioner. I bought it from a store that had never sold it, and it was in the box. They gave me a really good deal on it. The one that I had looked just like yours. It was made in 1982. I remember that date on the box.
Brent
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Post# 24257-11/19/2002-06:21 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
Whirlpool Electronic Control Machines
MESSAGE: These are a beauty!
These machines came out about a year right behind Sears 1st Electronic control washer/dryer which HQOT's has in his collection.
http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/u/dumontj/limited.html
Nice pair for the price and also there is a pink maytag gas dryer on sale.....
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2072351298
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2073058337
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Post# 24258-11/19/2002-06:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's POD (and I got to play with one)
MESSAGE: There's a GE washer like that in white in John's museum. I plugged it in and made it spin. I have video of it.
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Post# 24259-11/19/2002-07:21 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pump Repair Repercussions? (update)
MESSAGE: Greg,
I ran the machine this morning. My hose fix worked. The pump looked dry, but it looks like there's a slow drip about an inch away from the pump onto the outer tub drain hose from directly above it. It's definitely coming from somewhere in the outer tub. I felt above it onto the trans. but felt nothing wet. I'm hoping it's not a leak due to tub seal strain. The Unimatic trans. was in fact supported by two Jetcones when I was working on it, as you suggested to avoid any strain damage. I'll check it further after work today.
Ken
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Post# 24260-11/19/2002-07:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: '53whirlpoolwasher with new paint
MESSAGE: Wow - that is a beauty! Congrats on getting it done!
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Post# 24261-11/19/2002-08:40 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's POD (and I got to play with one)
MESSAGE: Beautiful GE set. The timer control looks like it has alot of blank space on it with no desgination for spin & rinse. The aqua topped agitator (activator in GE lingo) is the same as the one on my old 55. Love the pink!
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Post# 24262-11/19/2002-08:47 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
POD
MESSAGE: Love it! Very close to Mom's set. Her's had more option switches on both w/d. But they were the same Pink.
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Post# 24263-11/19/2002-09:49 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT:
Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: Yeah! Yeah! More Pepto-Bismol Pink appliances!
(Did GE have some kind of special deal with the makers of Pepto-Bismol?) :)
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Post# 24264-11/19/2002-11:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day (in the pink)
MESSAGE: I think GE had Petal Pink.
Maytag was Mayfair Pink, wasn't it?
-ph
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Post# 24265-11/19/2002-11:26 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: Three cheers for GE pink and Maytag sunny yellow!
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Post# 24266-11/19/2002-11:49 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
POD
MESSAGE: It does give new meaning to the phrase "Pretty in Pink"!
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Post# 24267-11/19/2002-11:50 ||| joeekaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT:
RCA Whirlpool Zero Gravity Food Preparation System
MESSAGE: (as seen in "2001: A Space Odyssey")
Since it bore the RCA Whirlpool trademark, would that make it a classic appliance?
Just wondering. :)
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Post# 24268-11/19/2002-13:02 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
PINK GAS MAYTAG SRYER ON EBAY!
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone!
Just noticed a pink gas Maytag dryer on ebay. Here's the address: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2072351298 If you like gas dryers, this is surely a great one to match that pink washer! Mark
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Post# 24269-11/19/2002-13:06 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
EASY WRINGER WASHER ON EBAY!
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone!
Just found an EASY WRINGER washer on ebay and thought you all might want to take a look! Mark http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2072277924
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Post# 24270-11/19/2002-15:59 ||| JOESPLACE (col,oh)
SUBJECT:
gansky1
MESSAGE: HELLO
IM NOT SURE WHERE TO START. I WORK AT A APPLIANCE RECYCLE CENTER & ALOT OF GREAT CLASSIC APPPLIANCES COME THROUGH THERE .
IM NOT SURE WHAT TO LOOK FOR .JUST BECAUSE SOMETHING IS OLD DOESNT MAKE IT VALUABLE. IM NOT REAL SURE HOW TO READ THE DATES .I HAVE BROUGHT SEVERAL UNITS HOME & HAVE SOLD 1 . ANYWAY ANY & ALL HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED
THANKS JOE
Y.GROVE@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Post# 24271-11/19/2002-16:09 ||| JOESPLACE (col,oh)
SUBJECT:
WESTINGHOUSE FRIG J-6-40
MESSAGE: ANYONE IN OH. INTERSETED IN A WESTINGHOUSE FRIG MODLE # J-6-40 SER # WA941970 NEEDS SHELVES LET ME KNOW PRIOR TO FRI MORN UNIT IS AT WORK IF INTERESTED ILL BRING HOME -THANKS JOE
Y.GROVE@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Post# 24272-11/19/2002-17:09 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - my grandma's dryer (POD - Westinghouse Pair)
MESSAGE: Gansky1:
Okay..... so I was right head on about the model year of these Westys being from the early 1960's then.
I think that Westinghouse did catch some hell during that time just because they decided to go with the "swing door" arrangement instead of sticking to the "drop down door" and do away with the "weigh-to-save" scale as well. And besides, I have always thought that the doors on those machines have looked funny and downright ugly anyway. But then after that, it looked like Westinghouse listened for a while after that. Because they seem to have brought those back in the 1970's. Back then, not only did the front loaders go back to the "drop door" arrangement, but they also brought back the "weigh-to-save" feature as well. I think that the "weigh-to-save" feature was featured on the front loaders and on the TOL top loaders as well.
Now that I have elaborated on the features that one would typically find on a Westinghouse washer, I would like to take another minute to ask this question as well.
(01). What does a Westinghouse front loader tend to do when they break down and malfunction??? And how often??
(02). What part(s) of a Westinghouse front loader typically fail that causes the washer to break down and malfunction??? How often does this happen???? And what kind of signs or signals I should/would watch out for????
The reason I am asking these two questions because back in 1974, when I was living in Columbia, South Carolina as a child, I did see a front loading Westinghouse washer (with the swing door on it) sitting outside on a carport for a long time for the trash people to pick it up??? After a while, it was finally hauled away. The washer that I am decribing is also from that era, and is of that vintage.
This question is being asked to everyone here at "classic appliances".
Thanks.....
--Charles--
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Post# 24273-11/19/2002-18:19 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: gansky1 (I have a request!)
MESSAGE: Do you think that you could look for any G.M. Frigidaire Pulsator washer? I woud love one! I live in Ann Arbor, MI
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Post# 24274-11/19/2002-18:32 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
WESTHINGHOUSE BREAKDOWNS
MESSAGE: In the service field, I changed quite a few water pumps on those machines....
also, hauled plenty of coinage out of the sump - coins get in between the outer and inner tubs and do damage to the tumbling veins by breaking off the ears that hold them to the tub, jamming against the two tubs during spin - this makes a banging, popping kind of sound during spin...
Also changed out plenty of door boots, and did plenty of rear pulley lubrication, especially on the helical spring and the roller bearings in the potato pulley (tumble pulley). Of course it's normal for the belts (especially the spin belt ) to need changing occasionally, and the spin change pulley goes bad pretty regularly, often enough that most service companies carry the split pulley on the service trucks...
How's that for starters.....
Of course, they are subject to the same water inlet woes that other washers get...stuck valve, failure to stop the water from flowing into the machine.
Very seldom do westinghouse motors, or timers ever go bad. It's also rare for the rear bearing to go bad, although it's not too difficult to change out if it's caught in time. When the rear bearing begins to go bad, the machine will sound like a freight train when it goes into spin (loud loud loud).
What type of breakdown are you looking forward to having, ChaskellJr2? I'm right here in the next city over ready to help you get the thing back together, if you need help.....
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Post# 24275-11/19/2002-18:42 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT:
Frigidaire Cyclamatics
MESSAGE: Hey Everybody,
There's a Frigidaire Cyclamatic on eBay. I've never seen one of those, and couldn't find anything on Google. Anybody have any pics of these (the eBay offer didn't have any pics)
Thanks!
d
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Post# 24276-11/19/2002-19:46 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Cyclamatics
MESSAGE: Sad to say that the only Frigidaire Cycla-Matic I ever saw was a refrigerator. There is one of those on ebay now - I believe it is a 1953 model.....
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Post# 24277-11/19/2002-20:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Cyclamatics
MESSAGE: Yes, "Cycla-matic" has to do only with refrigerators, I believe. I think it has something to do with automatic defrosting of the refrigerator section (you still have to defrost the freezer). (I've never grasped this concept; were there refrigerators at one time where both the refrigerator and freezer had to be manually defrosted?)
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Post# 24278-11/19/2002-20:29 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: ATTN: Jetcone (Thanks Peter!!!)
MESSAGE: Yes I guess I messed upmy settings and clogged the system! All the decks are clear now let em rip!!
jet
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Post# 24279-11/19/2002-20:32 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pump Repair Repercussions? (next repair)
MESSAGE: Greg,
I tried running the machine again tonight. The pump seems to be completely dry, however water is still slowly dripping from above. This only happens during the water spin-out. Using a flashlight and mirror to see where the leak came from, I saw it was dripping from just one of the eight or so of the major screw threads above. Can I access the area on the other side of the outer tub if I remove the top of the washer? Or am I looking for more trouble with seals if I take it off? Anything to be especially careful about when removing the top? Obviously the two screw on the front surface of the top come off. The only other connection seems to be the rear two screw bolts. Right?? Just lift it off? I figured if I could reach the screw that was leaking from above, I could apply some silicone sealer or something similar.
Advice again would be appreciated.
Ken
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Post# 24280-11/19/2002-20:53 ||| JGP57 (dearborn michigan)
SUBJECT:
WOOHOO
MESSAGE: I LOVE TO SAY WOOHOO.HOW ARE ALL OF YOU GUYS IN APPLIANCE VILLE?MANY GREAT POD LOVE ANY THING IN PINK. JGP57
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Post# 24281-11/19/2002-21:30 ||| Pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: gansky1 (I have a request!)
MESSAGE: I have a poppy red GM Frigidare in excellent condition, both visually and working wise, circa 1976? I think, it is a WC-DT, has the graphic water level dial, as well as the dial for 4 wash/rinse temps, dial for normal wash/normal spin and gentle wash/gentle spin, and the main dial with Soak cycle, Regular+santize,and Permanent Press. I must tell, you this machine is in excellent shape, with very little use, so it won't go cheap, or for parts.
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Post# 24282-11/19/2002-22:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: gansky1 (I have a request!)
MESSAGE: Pturo, are you *really* sure you want to give up this machine, rather than, perhaps, moving it to your main home as you suggested recently? This is a real gem! You could take the BOL Maytag to your 2nd home, and just swap?
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Post# 24283-11/19/2002-23:39 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT:
GE filterflo
MESSAGE: I've heard alot about ge filter flo washers from the 50s or 60s. was there something different about them compared to those in the 70s and after? I noticed in some pics that the spout was in the center back as apposed to off to the right. When did they start with filter flo.
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Post# 24284-11/19/2002-23:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pump Repair Repercussions? (update)
MESSAGE: Ken, good luck on this. I've kept up with the sage, of course. I know you'll get to the source eventually!!!! Bob
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Post# 24285-11/19/2002-23:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: '53whirlpoolwasher with new paint
MESSAGE: Great job Greg!!!!! Bob
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Post# 24286-11/19/2002-23:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: WOOHOO
MESSAGE: JGP57, glad to see ya. You haven't posted much. Hope all is well. Bob
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Post# 24287-11/20/2002-00:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filterflo
MESSAGE: Steve, I believe the Filter-Flo started in 1955, if not, then 1956 models. The early filter-flo machihnes were solid-tub machines and the filtering system only worked with a full wash load/high water level. When GE came out with the perforated tub design in 1960 theat changed the function and the filter-flo system worked at all water levels. A neighbor had one of the first perforated tub machiness in either 1960 or 1961 and the filetr spout was still on the back. But about 1962 or 63, the spout was changed to the more right back side.
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Post# 24288-11/20/2002-00:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filterflo
MESSAGE: Steve, I believe the Filter-Flo started in 1955, if not, then 1956 models. The early filter-flo machihnes were solid-tub machines and the filtering system only worked with a full wash load/high water level. When GE came out with the perforated tub design in 1960 theat changed the function and the filter-flo system worked at all water levels. A neighbor had one of the first perforated tub machiness in either 1960 or 1961 and the filetr spout was still on the back. But about 1962 or 63, the spout was changed to the more right back side.
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Post# 24289-11/20/2002-06:03 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: gansky1 (I have a request!)
MESSAGE: Am I losing my mind or haven't we been down this road before? As I remember the last installment of this ongoing story, first there was the possibility of trading a used Maytag Neptune for this machine, then I heard that someone offered $450. for this machine. I assumed that by now "someone" had already snapped this up. But now it appears that it is still available. So I feel like I am missing part of the story.
I suppose now is a good time for me to throw my $.02 into the ring. Is it for sale, or up for bid? If for sale, then what is the actual price? "It won't go for cheap" isn't really informative - but seems to indicate that the machine is really up for bid. And I should hope that no one in their right mind would get this machine just to cannibalize it for parts. It's bad enough that some of us who would love one of these machines in working order will probably never have one since it appears that only a few can afford to get into bidding wars. Ripping a working machine up for parts would be criminal!!!!
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Post# 24290-11/20/2002-06:06 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: gansky1 (I have a request!)
MESSAGE: I forgot that moving the Maytag was also an option. See, I guess I am missing parts of the saga.......
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Post# 24291-11/20/2002-07:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day (in the pink)
MESSAGE: GE was Petal Pink
Frigidaire was Mayfair Pink
Maytag just called it 'Pink' from what I can find
Hotpoint was Coral Pink
Bendix had Pastel Pink
Kelvinator was Bermuda Pink
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Post# 24292-11/20/2002-07:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: gansky1
MESSAGE: Hi Joe -
Any GM Frigidaire laundry would be of interest, but any old (50's - 60's) washers & dryers of many brands might have takers. Some to look for would be the list in the Wanted/Reward section as well as most any machines from the more rare brands like Bendix & Philco/Bendix, Kelvinator, ABC-o-Matic, etc.
Thank you for keeping your eyes peeled for us - we do appreciate your efforts!!
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Post# 24293-11/20/2002-07:17 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day (Pink Floyd)
MESSAGE: What was the Kenmore pink called?
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Post# 24294-11/20/2002-07:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: WESTHINGHOUSE BREAKDOWNS
MESSAGE: On the older 2 belt Westy washers, the speed changer was a bit of a trouble spot as well - in addition to the normal problems, water valves, etc. that are common on all washers. The older dryers were driven by friction wheels that wear out.
Westinghouse was one of few companies that I've seen that had specific service info for repairing their timers, I have several books for different "eras" of Westy timer servicing. Most other brands just called for replacement of bad timers rather than servicing them.
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Post# 24295-11/20/2002-07:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Cyclamatics
MESSAGE: Right - the Cycla-Matic was only refrigerators and it was a scheme to keep frost from building up on the secondary evaporator in the refrigerator section. The "defrost cycle" was really little more than a higher (36F) temp setting on the thermostat and began with the 1952 models. The refrigerator would not cycle on again until the interior temp of the refrigerator section reached 36 degrees ensuring that all the frost had melted from the evaporator coils. Even with the higher refrigerator temp of 36, the temp in the freezer would remain constant. Some of the Imperial models had a bi-metal switch connected to the interior light circuit that would turn on the compressor system if the door were left open for any period of time to ensure the temp in the freezer section would not get too high.
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Post# 24296-11/20/2002-07:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day (Pink Floyd)
MESSAGE: The best of all the names!
Candy Pink!!
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Post# 24297-11/20/2002-07:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pump Repair Repercussions? (next repair)
MESSAGE: You might be able to stop the leak from below with silicone, but this will only prolong and probably worsen the problem over time. If the water is getting that far now, it will still probably seep under the top of the mechanism support and possibly cause corrosion and rust of the structure of the cabinet around the support.
Removing the top is somewhat involved, you first have to remove the timer/controls from the panel and remove the water-fill hose. Once you get that done, you can remove the top and try to seal the leaky screw top from above. When replacing the top, use 'closed cell' foam on top of the (cleaned) rubber edge seal to ensure a good water seal between the cabinet sides and top.
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Post# 24298-11/20/2002-07:42 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
What Do You Call A Pink Kenmore?
MESSAGE: I believe pink Kenmores were called Candy Pink.
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Post# 24299-11/20/2002-07:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filterflo
MESSAGE: I think the filter flo was around 1955 or 56. Until 1961, GE washers were solid basket machines (no holes) and used a system of overflow and a sediment hole in the bottom to get the recirculation for the filter flo. In 1961, GE introduced their perforated basket washers and shortly after that, moved the filter spout to the familiar 1 o'clock postion.
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Post# 24300-11/20/2002-07:56 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS
MESSAGE: Westinghouse had what they called 'confection colors' which all had food in their names....
Westinghouse called it 'FROSTING PINK', the color of my space mate washer,
as in to frost a cake, pink....
Yellow was called 'LEMON YELLOW', as is my roll out dishwasher ('59 Westinghouse roll-out)
there was 'NOUGAT GRAY', and 'SUGAR WHITE',
and the color of my space mate dryer 'MINT AQUA' green, and there was an even darker blue color called 'WINTERGREEN'.
Doesn't that make you hungry? Well have an AVOCADO (oh, that came later).
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/hipster.JPG
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Post# 24301-11/20/2002-08:29 ||| Radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT:
RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (Transistor set)
MESSAGE: Okay, you've got my curiosity piqued--just saw your link and I gotta know what brand and model transistor set you have slung on your shoulder.
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Post# 24302-11/20/2002-08:37 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (Transistor set 2-TRACK PLAYTAPE HIPSTER)
MESSAGE: Good eye! That's a 1966-67 Playtape Hipster 2-track loop tape player and AM radio....designed to provide freedom for music lovers....
I definately am also into vintage electronics, and especially anything ever designed to re-create music....
THANKS FOR NOTICING!
BOB
That's also my old '53 Whirlpool to the left of the photo, not particularly looking like she needed new paint.....
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Post# 24303-11/20/2002-08:40 ||| Radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT:
RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (Paint)
MESSAGE: On the subject of paint--what do you guys normally use to repaint? Acrylic urethane (basecoat/clearcoat as used on cars), acrylic enamel, spray bomb?
Bill
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Post# 24304-11/20/2002-09:00 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filterflo
MESSAGE: Coin-op GE's were built backward to allow front servicing. So the water spout for the Filter-Flo is at 7 o'clock.
-ph
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Post# 24305-11/20/2002-09:15 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (Paint)
MESSAGE: Paint is really very subjective. It's only important, really , to keep the steel from rusting. That's what it's actually there for....Secondly, it's nice if it looks well, too...
Paint is one of those things which IS NOT Permanent. It can always be re-painted, regardless. In fact, we should all hope to live so long as to see our machines need 2 0r 3 paint jobs .....Paint can be rolled on, brushed on, sprayed on, or sponged on... it really doesn't matter... No matter what you do, you cannot please all the people all the time....
Just make sure the paint job you have PLEASES YOU, and don't worry a thing about what other people think. I prefer to use APPLIANCE EPOXY paint, in a spray can, or at the very least, a RUSTOLEUM paint.
I like my machines to be fully covered, and to photograph well, which doesn't nescessarily mean they have factory grade paint jobs on them....but they usually look pretty from any distance...as do humans...the closer you get, the more pores and folicles you'll see which may not be as attractive, but so it goes....We cannot all have porcelain skin.....But the paint is only the face 'makeup' on the old girls, and can always be redone if you don't like the results..
I, personally, try not to get paint on places where it shouldn't be, however, like the tops of the appliance feet (legs). They were NEVER painted, and look really QUEER in a photo when they are....Details like this do make a difference.
Of course, that's only my OPINION, anyway.
BOB
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Post# 24306-11/20/2002-10:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day (Pink Floyd)
MESSAGE: I believe it was called "Harmony House Candy Pink". I think Harmony House was a name they had for their paints, and I think all this stuff was supposed to blend with similar paint colors you could get.
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Post# 24307-11/20/2002-10:34 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (speaking of colors)
MESSAGE: I am under the impression that there was an equivalent to Almond in the 60s but it was called something other. And that there has been sometype of off-white all through the 70s. I had a frigidaire refrigerator once supposedly from the early 70s,according to Frigidaire-1972. But they weren't sure. They said it could also have been from 1988, which by its design could not have been.
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Post# 24308-11/20/2002-11:19 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filterflo (GE Filterflo)
MESSAGE: It was 55. I had that machine. There is a pic of a matching 55 dryer at "Pumper"'s Phoenix appliance graveyard link. Click on Image 027.
The washer had a black solid tub with white specs, black straight-vane agitator with an aqua top where the filter pan fit and a lighted dial with two cycles - "normal" in black letters and "short" in red letters.
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Post# 24309-11/20/2002-12:02 ||| korpben2000 (warren,pa)
SUBJECT:
Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: I think that Maytag made a great washer and got clothes clean as well.but nothing is better than a kelvinator
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Post# 24310-11/20/2002-12:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Tuesday, Sept 19 Picture of the Day (Candy Pink)
MESSAGE: That's because Kenmores are such sweet machines.
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Post# 24311-11/20/2002-12:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Battle of the Washing machines (Frigidaire?)
MESSAGE: Kelvy and Frigidaire (GM made) are both fun machines. I'd say the Frig rinsed and cleaned a little better but the Kelvy was even more gentle and cleaned just as well. Maybe some of us who have both machines can do a comparison?
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Post# 24312-11/20/2002-14:33 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT:
Picture of the Day - Tide
MESSAGE: It's great to see the old detergent ads, as they seemed to say more about what the product actually did, compared to today's ads. Does any one know what sample product Philco put into its front-loading machines? Dash first comes to mind, as does All.
Darryl
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Post# 24313-11/20/2002-18:37 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: What Do You Call A Pink Kenmore?
MESSAGE: Yes, it was indeed Candy Pink. My mother always got a big kick out of the fact that she went for a color with that name in 1958.....
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Post# 24314-11/20/2002-18:39 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filterflo
MESSAGE: So that explains the unusual position of the filter flo spout.....
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Post# 24315-11/20/2002-19:02 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: What Do You Call A Pink Kenmore?
MESSAGE: Did she have a pink Sears washer? LK? Why did I think you had a Philco, but maybe I was thinking of someone else, LOL.
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Post# 24316-11/20/2002-19:10 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT:
blue 60s lady kenmore
MESSAGE: shopping today and saw that mid 60s med blue Lady Kenmore dryer 800, its in good condition considering the age. Also saw one of those white GE 50s rounded edge single door refrigerators. The drawers were metal. Would be happy to help anyone interested in aquiring them.
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Post# 24317-11/20/2002-19:31 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: blue 60s lady kenmore (Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Please make sure Jason knows about the LK 800 as he has been lusting after a set of these! Mark
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Post# 24318-11/20/2002-19:51 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: Everybody has their favorites! I remember my Grandmother (in the early 60's) cussing her Frigidaire because it tangled clothes so badly. I also remember her re-washing sheets and dress shirts because they would tangle up and not come real clean in sections. My other Grandmother had a maytag that she never complained about even once! I liked the Frigidaire better since you could see the action. The Maytag had those blasted mercury switches and no matter how fast I raised the lid, I couldn't see a thing. I always liked Maytag better than anything else because they were so easy to repair, compaired to the Frigidaire, and belt drive Kenmore/Whirlpool machines. My Aunt Jane had a Kelvinator. When she went to replace it in the 80's and they were no longer making the centric action agitator, I suggested she buy a Maytag. The Maytag lasted almost a week in her house. She raised such hell, the dealer was happy and relieved to take it back, and bring her old Kelvinator back that had been somehow magically repaired! When she died several years ago, I went looking for that washer but my cousins said that she couldn't get it repaired the last time it needed it and traded it in on a Frigidaire 1-18. I don't know if the Frigidaire was used or new as it was history too by the time I checked into it. It was still in the basement, and stupidly I didn't grab it. Gone now. She was using a 21 pound Norge with the matching dryer that had to be repaired at least once a year according to her kids. I still like the solid tub washers of any make though, since all the wash action is kept in the tub! Clothes just seem to come cleaner. Mark
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Post# 24319-11/20/2002-20:17 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
1952 Whirlpool dryer, starting at 50 cents!
MESSAGE: A working 1952 Whirlpool dryer! Wow! It is was running well ( I am sure someone could fix it and give it a new paint job!)and is starting at 50 cents! You gotta see this! It is located in Minneapolis!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2073885322&category=20714
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Post# 24320-11/20/2002-20:25 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1952 Whirlpool dryer, starting at 50 cents! (I hope that someone gets it! Greg X2, Robert, Scott?)
MESSAGE: Jamie,
Thanks for that link! That is a very nice dryer!
Greg, (either of you) why don't you get it! You both do so well with restoring and painting appliances!
It is a gem!
I will not suprise me if it goes for over a grand!
Brent
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Post# 24321-11/20/2002-20:27 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Battle of the Washing machines (Great Story Mark!)
MESSAGE: I loved your story about your Grandmother. Shame that you could not save her machines.
I love how her Kelvinator was "fixed" just one week later. I wonder if they told her that it could not be fixed, and she had to replace it! Sounds like she was a smart ole dame, and was better at their game!
Thanks for sharing.
Brent
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Post# 24322-11/20/2002-20:59 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: '53whirlpoolwasher with new paint (thanks)
MESSAGE: thank you BOB !!!
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Post# 24323-11/20/2002-21:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE filterflo
MESSAGE: Wow Peter, I NEVER saw a GE coin-op until the late 60s. Far out,m 7 o'clock!!!
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Post# 24324-11/20/2002-21:50 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (speaking of colors)
MESSAGE: I think you are right about the almond of the 60's. I seem to remember it being called doeskin and it was a little darker than the almond we know today.
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Post# 24325-11/20/2002-21:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (speaking of colors)
MESSAGE: Yes, and Frigidaire had their version of it, which I believe they called "Honey Beige". I don't know if doeskin was Whirlpool or GE's name, but both of them had a version of it.
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Post# 24326-11/20/2002-21:58 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Battle of the Washing machines (Battle of the Washing machines)
MESSAGE: Hi Mark,
This is a great story - I wish we could repair all those great washers - I hope you are doing well
Peter
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Post# 24327-11/20/2002-22:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Great video Jason!
MESSAGE: Jason, I finally viewed the second video after having saved it several days ago. It is another wonderful piece of work! We are very fortunate to have this living memory of the convention! Scott
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Post# 24328-11/20/2002-22:40 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: HOW ABOUT WESTINGHOUSE PINK - CONFECTION COLORS (speaking of colors)
MESSAGE: Then there was "Toast" in the '80s, and let's not forget "Platinum."
I saw the new Whirlpools at Sears a few days ago, in some sort of gray. What's the official name of that color?
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Post# 24329-11/20/2002-22:42 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Great video Jason!
MESSAGE: Yay!
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Post# 24330-11/21/2002-00:34 ||| korpben2000 (warren,pa)
SUBJECT:
Washer Comparison
MESSAGE: Yes Kelvinator are cool washers and get clothes really clean,so do Maytags and many others.But i like all of them no matter what like GE,Whirlpool,etc.
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Post# 24331-11/21/2002-02:03 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
Wig wag not moving?!!
MESSAGE: Hiya,
I sold one of my dd machines tonight and the lady was chucking a mid 80's belt driven whirlpool, got it home plugged it in and all it can do is drain, looked at the wigwag, but then i noticed the thing doesn't move when the machine is on, I did get it to spin by engaging the cam gear but alas i guess the tranny is toast, anyone know where i can get a gearcase for el cheapo or how hard it is to openup/fix this one?
~S
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Post# 24332-11/21/2002-05:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: What Do You Call A Pink Kenmore?
MESSAGE: Yes, she had a pink Lady Kenmore - I am guessing it was dated around 1959. Growing up I had two friends who had Philco washers in their houses. One had a 1961 Miss America and the other had the 1967 Custom Imperial.
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Post# 24333-11/21/2002-05:45 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: Great story, Mark - and how lucky for Aunt Jane that the dealer still had the Kelvinator when she went back for it. Just out of curiosity, why did she hate the Maytag so? I suspect it had something to do with washing ability, no??
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Post# 24334-11/21/2002-06:22 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1952 Whirlpool dryer, starting at 50 cents!
MESSAGE: Robert, you should buy this since it's in your area and then you would have the matching dryer to your 52 washer.
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Post# 24335-11/21/2002-06:44 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
Appliances in their New Home
MESSAGE: Hi All, Cleaned out my storage unit and brought the rest of my keepers to my new house. One of the washers that has a key place in my shop is my 1959 Dexter Automatic w/ Programmed Formula PushButtons.....sent pics of it to Greg Nunn to post in the club. Let me know what you think! I LOVE this washer........
Scrapped out several old machines I had been keeping for parts, there just was no room for them. It always breaks your heart a little to see them go,.........
Sold my 1-18 Frigidaire set in Avocado to Todd from New Orleans. At least they are staying in the club. That made room for my 1955 Unimatic set. Out with the new and in with the old!
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Post# 24336-11/21/2002-06:52 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appliances in their New Home (Sounds like you are having fun!)
MESSAGE: Jimmy,
Sounds like you are having a great time!
Can't wait to see the pictures that you sent to Greg.
Best of luck with your move.
Brent
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Post# 24337-11/21/2002-06:54 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's POD (Lesto, where did it go?)
MESSAGE: The aqua topped agitator (activator in GE lingo) is the same as the one on my old 55. Love the pink!
Les,
Do you still have this machine?
If not, what did you do with it?
Brent
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Post# 24338-11/21/2002-07:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appliances in their New Home (WOOHOO!!!)
MESSAGE: Avocado 1-18s in the Land of Rust! The 2nd Land Of Rust wash-in will happen soon thereafter.
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Post# 24339-11/21/2002-08:51 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's POD (Lesto, where did it go?)
MESSAGE: I wish I still had it but alas I don't. When my Mom was getting ready to sell her house and move to a smaller condo several years ago she sold alot of stuff at a garage sale and donated other items to some Goodwill type place. The 55 GE was one of the items she got rid of before she moved. The tranny was bad. It would no longer spin. Of course, if this great club had been around I would have found a place to store it and gotten him up and running again. She also got rid of a mid or late 1940's Ironrite machine and a vintage 1952 Deering window unit air conditioner - both of which still worked. I was heartbroken.
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Post# 24340-11/21/2002-09:22 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: She said she loaded it and set it to wash. Went back a few minutes later and there were no suds, and the detergent was still at the top of the load and nothing seemed to be moving at all. She NEVER took my advice on washers again!
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Post# 24341-11/21/2002-09:51 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT:
POD...early 60's?
MESSAGE: When did Norge stop making laundry equipment? Where they bought out by another company? Seems like I can vaguely remember hearing the name as a kid(born 4-17-62) I haven't seen much interest in them here after the early 60's. Did the product performance decline as the eighties aproached like so many?
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Post# 24342-11/21/2002-10:12 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appliances in their New Home (Will there be a link posted?)
MESSAGE: I'd love to see the photos of the Dexter. will they be posted somewhere here on the site or in a Yahoo briefcase?
Thanks!
Duane
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Post# 24343-11/21/2002-10:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD...early 60's?
MESSAGE: See post 23483. Maytag now owns the Norge name. The same basic design lives on in the current Maytag line.
-ph
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Post# 24344-11/21/2002-10:58 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: Reminds me of a comment from an appliance dealer years ago. He told me that the older Maytags lasted forever because they didn't do much of anything. Even Consumer Reports mentioned in a long ago issue on washing machine ratings that Maytag once again topped the ratings - - not because of superior performance, but because they lacked some of the shortcomings of more "vigorously operating" brands.........
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Post# 24345-11/21/2002-11:39 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
Kelvinator vs. Maytag
MESSAGE: lightedcontrols--- (re: your Grandmother's washers) I would imagine after the super-cala-splash-o-rama which was the Kelvinator back in the day, her Maytag seemed almost catatonic by comparison!
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Post# 24346-11/21/2002-12:12 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
Old Engineers and Archives
MESSAGE: I am full of (ideas) today! I was thinking about Peter's explaination of why the filter flow outlet was in the front on commercial units and was reminded of my question about why GE didn't fix the two speed, shift while running, problem and I had a flash. Has anyone approached manufactures to see if they would let us look at old proto type plans,etc? They may be able to supply names of engineers who are still alive that might share some interesting info.
I sit on the Historical Preservation Commission here in beautiful Monticello and we have had some luck getting info on old house,etc., just by asking.
I would be happy to help in this if someone can tell me where to start. Since the web site does include a museum we may have some luck.
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Post# 24347-11/21/2002-12:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: Maytag was the simplest of designs. Just a motor, 2 belts, a pump and the trans. I guess any simpler would be a Kelvinator.
My 2 top dream machines go from the complex to the most simple
1) 1970 Kenmore 800 set
2) Any Kelvinator with centric agitation and a window lid
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Post# 24348-11/21/2002-13:08 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT:
New to me washer
MESSAGE: Hey there guys its been awhile but I am alive and still reading posts here. I just got a Maytag A613 washer and now that makes 3 washers for me. I ended up retiring the GM Frigidaire because the agitate arm is acting up and I am going have to replace the arm. There is a parts place in Portland that has the part so thats not an issue yet. I was told though that Electrolux is phasing out all GM parts and they are going to be tough to get a hold of.
Has anyone used the new Electrasol Gel Pacs? They are interesting to use but dont handle them with wet hands ..the outer skin disolves instantly when it hits water. They wash dishes very well. One pac is like using one tablet.
Surf detergent is going to be phased out in January and Unilever is going to marry Surf and All together and its just going to be All. They are focusing alot on the brand andgetting rid of brands that not performing like they should.
Getting back to the new baby for me I do like it alot. I had used an A510 growing up but somehow I didnt know how to use the washer right. This washer does very well and it does have quite a bit of power moving the load . I love the long arc and the slower agitation speed. My other Maytag with the orbital transmission doesnt come close to the clean I get with this one. What is nice is that I can put the agitators that I do have like the Load Sensor and the PowerFlex 12 in this washer.
Mike
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Post# 24349-11/21/2002-15:26 ||| chicapplis (illinois)
SUBJECT:
combo washers
MESSAGE: I remember reading a book from the 50s quite a while ago that showed a front loading machine, by GE I think, that would both wash and dry. If I am not mistaken SzaSza Gabor(did I spell right) had a pink one on Green Acres, (as well as a mobil maid dishwasher which I find interesting since I believe they had a had pump for their kitchen sink), but thats another issue. I've heard talk of "combos" is this what you mean. And what ever happened to those machines. I mean what a good idea. Spacesaving, time saving, energy and water saving. If figure for commercial purposes it is better to have to sell 2 machines in stead of 1. Was that it. or was there something defective with the design and when did they stop making them.
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Post# 24350-11/21/2002-16:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!!
MESSAGE: Here are the pictures that I uploaded to a Yahoo album for Jimmy of his beautiful Dexter washer.
Enjoy!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gefilterflo/lst?.dir=/Dexter+Washer&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 24351-11/21/2002-16:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!! (Questions for Jimmy...)
MESSAGE: Do you know what year this washer is Jimmy? It looks very similar in style to the 1959 Philco that Robert has in his collection. Is this a solid basket with a perforated liner?
What a rare treasure - thanks for sharing the pictures with us!
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Post# 24352-11/21/2002-16:16 ||| deeptub (Carbondale, IL)
SUBJECT:
RE: New to me washer (maytag orbital transmission)
MESSAGE: First of all, I'm glad I found this site--what a cool group!
Second, Surf...I remember when it came out (I was in Jr. High, I think...) I remember thinking, "Oh my god, it's a Tide knock-off. How much more obvious could it be? What's next? Rave? Hooray!?"
Anyway.
Third, does anyone know when Maytag came out with the orbital transmission? Was there overlap between it and the previous trans? The A612 we got when I was in high school (1989) had an orbital trans. I remember taking the front off before it was even moved in from the garage and thinking, "'Ello, whot's this?" There were lots of Maytags in the family, some quite old, and they all had the same EVERYTHING inside. Seemed pretty risque...Maytag coming up with something mechanically new. I remember wondering how it would hold up. I also remember thinking the short stroke was pretty funny to watch. Mom never said anything about it not cleaning as well as the A608 we left behind. Of course, she and dad are pretty suburban, so what goes into it is probably not that dirty to begin with. I also remember that mom was tickled that it would at least FILL with the lid open. And 13 years later, that washer and the matching DG512 dryer are still going and have never been repaired.
Anyway, thanks to all for this great discussion group!
Tom
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Post# 24353-11/21/2002-16:18 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
One of the last
MESSAGE: Westy's on eBay...
-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2074104614
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Post# 24354-11/21/2002-16:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: I heard someone say here once that if Maytag added a heater to their washers, they would make wonderful, self-stirring slow cookers that would never bruise a carrot!
Have you tried the Maytag 50hz pulley on the motor? It makes the agitation (and spin) much more effective - I wouldn't have a Maytag without it!
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Post# 24355-11/21/2002-16:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!!
MESSAGE: Holy cow! What a beauty!
-ph
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Post# 24356-11/21/2002-16:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Old Engineers and Archives
MESSAGE: You might have some luck with manufacturers that still exist today, but unfortunately, many of the old brands are long gone now and it's doubtful much of the old design documentation was saved. As a ray of hope though, Jon (jetcone) contacted the Altorfer Bros. about the ABC-O-Matic washers and actually got to talk to the owner personally and even got a prototype, hand built washer from them!
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Post# 24357-11/21/2002-17:53 ||| deeptub (Carbondale, IL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Battle of the Washing machines
MESSAGE: I am intrigued! I'll bet on an orbital trans. machine, the agitatior's "oscilation" would be more like "vibration". 50 Hz pulleys for everyone on my xmas list! thanks for the tip.
T.
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Post# 24358-11/21/2002-18:07 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: New to me washer
MESSAGE: Mike - glad to see you are alive and well. We have missed your posts. Interesting about the Lever plans to scrap the Surf brand. I actually like Surf - at least the one with bleaching action and the Spring Burst(powder and tabs). To me the Spring Burst smells a bit like the older detergents before everyone went crazy with artificial fruit, mountain streams and breezes and other such nonsense. Curious though - exactly how are they going to marry the Surf and All brands? The problem is that they are not willing to spend any money on advertising. I see plenty of All and Wisk advertisements but none for Surf. Just like Colgate - their products are not popular - but I haven't seen a commercial or a print ad for Fab or Ajax in 15 years. So how does a company expect to sell detergent? Word of mouth??
I haven't yet seen the Electrasol gel tabs yet, but I will give them a try. I really like the tablets though. In principle, they sound like something from the 60's - anyone remember Action Chlorine Bleach in the dissolvable packets? I think even Lestoil had one that was non chlorine - Lestare I believe it was called. Anyway - take care and keep posting Mike!!
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Post# 24359-11/21/2002-18:15 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: New to me washer (maytag orbital transmission)
MESSAGE: Actually, the Surf that is on the market today was RE introduced in 1985. Originally, Surf was on the market through 1973. Then it disappeared along with so many brands when all those environmental people went berserk with the phosphate issue. So I was surprised to see it advertised in 1985. I remember it so well . I was working in San Antonio, Texas and going to work one morning I passed a supermarket that advertised its specials on large posterboards in the window. I saw that and thought about it all day. I kept thinking that it was my imagination and I was back in the 60's. Well, before I came back home to Connecticut for the weekend I bought several boxes and brought them home. Several months later, Surf was finally available in the Northeast. Sad that a great brand is disappearing TWICE in our lives........
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Post# 24360-11/21/2002-18:20 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!!
MESSAGE: Well, Jimmy, that is a beautiful machine. Wherever did you find it? Was it in that condition when you found it? Makes you wonder how long Philco manufactured washers for Dexter. And since we are on the Philco topic - have you worked on your South Dakota Philco finds yet? At this rate you will be able to host your own wash in!! Best of luck with that Dexter. Do you think we will be seeing any action shots or videos anytime soon????
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Post# 24361-11/21/2002-18:43 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!! (Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer )
MESSAGE: Jimmy this is a real nice Dexter - I didn't realize they made a TL - Best of luck with it
Peter
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Post# 24362-11/21/2002-19:00 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!! (Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer )
MESSAGE: Wow, that really is one great washer. It combines all the best design features of the late 50's, early 60's. Are the controls identical on the Philco and Dexter of that year? Wasn't Philco owned by Ford, just as GM owned Frigidaire?
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Post# 24363-11/21/2002-20:12 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: New to me washer (Frigidaire parts)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike,
Good to hear from you again.
If you've kept up with the posts you might know I've been trying to find a replacement pulsator cap for my 1952 Frigidaire WO-65 washer. Could you please e-mail me the name and phone number of the parts store you are getting the agitate arm from? I've called part supply stores around the country looking for older Frigidaire parts, but no luck so far. If they can't help, maybe they can refer me to another store.
Also, what every happened with your Electrolux connection/friend? Have you heard any more about them bringing out an updated energy-efficient pulsator type washer?
Please e-mail me ASAP with the phone number at (kennywhy@att.net)
Thanks very much,
Ken
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Post# 24364-11/21/2002-20:27 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
My Dexter Automatic
MESSAGE: Hi All, As far as I can tell, the Dexter is a 1959 model. Its mechanically the same as the toploading Philco Automagic of the same era, EXCEPT for the controls. Dexter called its pushbuttons the "Fabric Formula Selectors" !!!!! I love it!
I found it in a basement of an old house in Wooster Ohio, but I had to take a Dexter Twin Tub and a 1955 Tappan Holiday range as part of the deal. As you can probably imagine, when I saw the top loading Dexter Automatic ANYTHING would have been worth it to obtain this gem. Thanks to Greg for posting my pics...........
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Post# 24365-11/21/2002-21:05 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Dexter Automatic (So Cool!)
MESSAGE: Jimmy,
That is a great looking machine. How much work did you have to do to it? Or was it actually ready to do a load? It is in such great shape!
Let us know what your thoughts are on it cleaning ability? I would love to know more.
Also, there is a switch on it that say's "water saver?" What did that do?
You have a wonderfull collection there!
When are you going to get your Lady Kenmore Combo?
Brent
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Post# 24366-11/21/2002-21:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appliances in their New Home
MESSAGE: Jimmy, I'm thrilled you're finally moving into the new house. Hope the move with all your great stuff goes well. (Need someone to drive a car or two LOL?)
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Post# 24367-11/21/2002-21:14 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Dexter Automatic (So Cool!)
MESSAGE: Brent, Thanks for the encouraging words on the Dexter. Its not a working machine yet, but it will be my winter project. I got a new rubber seal and bellows for it and the motor and timer seem to be OK.
I have not had time to pick up the Kenmore Combo yet from John L. I might do that in a couple of weeks, weather permitting.
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Post# 24368-11/21/2002-21:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New to me washer
MESSAGE: Mikey!!!, terrific post and congrats on the "ne" maytag. I'm glad you're preserving the Frigidaire. I remember what you went through to get it. And thanks for all the other "tidbits" of info. BB
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Post# 24369-11/21/2002-21:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!!
MESSAGE: Jimmy, I particularly love the "formula Selector" In some ways, it reminds me in a way of Frigidaire's 1959 Imperial Washer, of which there was the control panel at the warehouse.
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Post# 24370-11/21/2002-21:37 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Dexter Automatic (Do you have several Laundry Rooms like some of the lucky gentlemen here?)
MESSAGE: Jimmy,
Sounds like a fun Winter project!
So, We have seen the "pretty machines all in a row" in your garage, but I am sure that you have another room where you will have your other machines running? (I know you have much more than what was pictured) I am so amazed at how you guys are able to have all of these machines up and running, at the same time if you want. Amazing!
Robert, Bob W, Greg, Mark, John, Jeff, Steve 1-18, and those of you I missed make me so envious of how you make this happen! Very encouraging on the rest of us "lay persons", if you will.
Thanks for sharing!
Brent
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Post# 24371-11/21/2002-22:24 ||| jerseymike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
Washer Memories
MESSAGE: This is a great site. I found it a couple of weeks ago. This is my first post. I grew up in a 44 unit apartment building. Everyone had a washing machine in their kitchen and a clothesline that ran either to a 5 story clothesline pole or to a neighbor's window. (I often admired the guys who had to climb that pole to replace a line.) My mom had two lines one to the pole (we lived on the second floor) and one to our next door neighbor's window. My mom had a Maytag. Circa 1962. Most of our neighbors also had Maytags of similar vintage. It was the washer of choice in our building. You could count the exceptions on one hand. One neighbor had a GE. Another had a Norge "Time Line". (I was always fascinated by that one.) And another had a Fridgidaire Pulsator. (I was REALLY fascinated by that one. I spent a lot of time in their kitchen.) It was a very early model. It had no grounding plug and no safety switch. It continued to pulsate and spin when the lid was open.
I had an aunt who lived in a house in the suburbs. She also had a Fridgidaire Pulsator. I'm guessing that it was from the mid to late fifties. It was in her basement so I didn't get to see it operate that often. :-(. It had a matching dryer. She was the first person that I remember having a dryer. My mother and her other sisters used to bad mouth it. The clothes don't smell as nice. They shrink. etc., etc.
I had another aunt who also lived in the suburbs. She had a Bendix washer/dryer combo. She didn't allow us into the basement, so I never did get to see it operate. As a matter of fact, I didn't know that it existed until the day of her funeral. My uncle sent me downstairs to get some ice. I was gone so long that another aunt came to look for me.
My grandmother (a couple from us in another apartment building) had a portable "Monitor" washing machine. It was very small. It was on wheels. It had a single tub and its agitator was an impeller on the back wall. It filled with a single hose that connected to a faucet and had to be held over the machine. It had a manual wringer. It didn't have a grounding plug. It had two switches. One for "wash" and one for "pump" which was used to drain the machine. She had two laundry tubs next to her kitchen sink and she used them two rinse the wash. She had to climb out of the window (and onto her fire escape) to hang the wash on the line.
My other grandmother lived in a house. She had two wringer washers. A Maytag that was from the late 1940's or early 1950's. She also had an Easy. That one was even older. She used that to rinse the wash.
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Post# 24372-11/21/2002-22:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Dexter Automatic
MESSAGE: 'Fabric Formulas' is great - such pomp and circumstance for a washer!
I would have hauled away most anything to get this washer too, it's a true gem. Would you take a few photos of the work you do on it? It will be fun to see the awakening of this sleeping beauty.
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Post# 24373-11/21/2002-22:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Dexter Automatic (Do you have several Laundry Rooms like some of the lucky gentlemen here?)
MESSAGE: You can have them! One of our members that lives right there in Atlanta (how lucky is that!) just might be needing some off-site storage...
I'll take the slap PH ;-)
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Post# 24374-11/22/2002-02:06 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
The Dexter and the rest of my collection
MESSAGE: My garage/workshop is rather large, and some of the other machines I have dont all show up in the pics with the Dexter. I have 7 washer and dryer sets (I LOVE matching sets) in the garage for a total of 14 items, and also have a Maytag demo dishwasher, Philco wringer washer, GE wall mount refrigerator, Frigidaire 40" Flair range (that one is waiting for my kitchen to be finished). THEN in my back garage are some of my refrigerators (Leonard FOODARAMA, GE Americana, etc). THEN in my storage shed are my 1956 Philco set from the farm, 1955 GE Stratoliner Range, 1940 Bendix, a couple of 50's dishwashers and frig's........ THEN in my house, I have my 1959 GE bottom freezer frig and 1952 GE drawer type dishwasher, Easy spinner, JAMES dishwasher, Frost Queen freezer, and I use a modern Whirlpool washer & dryer (all electronic controls).
THEN in my parents garage,,,,,oh my the list goes on and on. Talk about compulsive excessive.......But we all love our appliances.......Just like children or pets, we love them all a lot, but each one in different ways.........
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Post# 24375-11/22/2002-06:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jimmy's (filterflo) Dexter Washer Pics are Here!!
MESSAGE: After having just watched the new Harry Potter movie, the "Formula Selector" sounds like you're making some kind of magic washing potion.
Automagic?
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Post# 24376-11/22/2002-06:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD Norge Coin-ops
MESSAGE: I'm wondering if this washer is from the same time frame as that Norge front loader at Jeff's house in MD.
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Post# 24377-11/22/2002-08:01 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike!)
MESSAGE: I have to say I see it time and time again! Your tale of your Aunt having that Bendix and you never being allowed to see it because she wouldn't allow you into the basement is very familiar to me! SO many of my neighbors would let me in the basement but would get weird when I tried to look in their machine ,lift the lid etc! In the 60's it was like you were looking inside them! I find it peculiar when just upstairs they were always telling you to help your self to the Refigerator or change the channel on their TV! TV's cost a whale of alot more than dryers or washers back then and not eveyone had one! I can't tell you how many times I was yelled at STAY AWAY FROM THAT MACHINE! Did they really think we were going to let it yank our arms off in spin???
Maybe it was the fact that alot of our parents generation grew up with wringers and it is carry over from their parents warnings about laundry?? Wringers are dangerous, alot of people have war stories to tell using wringers. I don't know but it seems to be a cultural thing not a thinking thing.
jon
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Post# 24378-11/22/2002-08:28 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (MONITOR WASHER)
MESSAGE: I own a Monitor Washer! In fact, I've owned two, through the years....Now that you mention it.....I'm sure that when I was working for ALCO, about 9 years ago, I sent one out to Minneapolis to someone's collection (gary wible?) and when it got there, the pump was stuck (with carpet lint) and whoever it was I sent it out to, NEVER PAID ME FOR IT. That was my first big appliance rip off, ever. If any of you minnesota guys know anything about that washer, do what you can to get whoever has it to either get in touch with me and give the machine back, or at least pay me for it (nearly 10 years later).
I had invested quite a bit of myself into that machine, including paying 50 bucks for it dead.....
had it all running, then got totally ripped off about it.
I'm beginning to think that's the MO of this club. Let's see who can rip the other guy off the biggest, and most often.
Anyway....I have another running one now, but as you can see, I also feature a very long memory.
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Post# 24379-11/22/2002-08:29 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike!)
MESSAGE: I'm glad I wasn't the only kid who got yelled at for looking at a washer. This one neighbor had a Kenmore, I think the first model that had the wash n wear cycle and the grey scrub brush top on the agitator, in their garage. Everytime I would just look at it they would scream at me.
I guess, in a way this club is our revenge on people like my neighbor and all our relatives who wouldn't allow us near their machines.
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Post# 24380-11/22/2002-08:45 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (I think you are right Jon.)
MESSAGE: I think that you are right on track about their fears that were instilled into them from generations of wringer washer accidents, and the horror stories of hair getting caught, and arms, and boobies, etc. (I think that one of the Consumer Reports on the club has clippings from newspapers that show this stuff. Even one woman that was killed when she was scalped by her wringer!
When I think back, I get paranoid. My grandparents and aunts used to encourage me to pull up the chair and watch the thing. Wonder what they had in mind.
Brent
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Post# 24381-11/22/2002-08:54 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (Neighbors and Machines!)
MESSAGE: I loved visiting the neighbors and doing their laundry and dishes so that I could play with the different machines in the hood. The women always thought it was so cute. I hated when they would run into my mom and me in a store, and they would say, "Brent is so sweet, he always helps me with my washing and cleaning". It would send chills down my spine because I knew that my mom would be pissed about this! I never did stop though. The one thing that I can remember that the women I would help would always say after I would put in the clothes into the machine, "Come sit with me until it is done", not understanding that the whole reason I was doing this was to watch the machine. Not because I got a kick from child labor! I also would always say when it was time to fold and pick up the clothes, "I think I hear my mom calling me". I never, and still don't get into that part of doing laundry.
Man, I should have charged them back then! Hindsite!
Brent
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Post# 24382-11/22/2002-09:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Dexter Automatic (Do you have STORAGE SPACE like of the lucky gentlemen here?)
MESSAGE: You do not speak with forked tongue! Take my washing machines, please!
-ph
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Post# 24383-11/22/2002-09:13 ||| deeptub (Carbondale, IL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike!)
MESSAGE: My maternal grandmother was a worrier...she could spot distaster in an empty room. We didn't even go in her basement. "There's nothing down there that would interest you." I didn't get to play with her Maytags until after she was dead and we were cleaning the house to sell it. Likewise, she always turned her window air conditioner off when she left the house (It could burn the house down!"). My mom and I were discussing the logic one day--I said, "Would she turn off her refrigerator or heat when she leaves the house?" And mom said, "She would if she got one whiff of danger so humor her and don't try rationalizing with her." My paternal grandmother, on the other hand, wasn't about to pass up help with laundry and was more than happy to set up a stepladder and discuss laundry chemicals.
Good times.
T.
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Post# 24384-11/22/2002-09:31 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike! (paranoid parents))
MESSAGE: My mom never let us go near the washer or dryer either - AND she was weird about the refrigerator because a cousin of hers had cut her hand on a refrigerator latch, got blood poisoning and had to have her hand cut off or something. She also never let us hold onto the handrails on escalators because she heard they can catch kids hands and shred them (which, as a child, was a wonderfully gorey image ;-)
Reading this, I realize I've made her sound like a paranoid freak, which she wasn't. She was just something of a technophobe. Plus, she used to read "Reader's Digest" which, as you might recall, seemed to specialize in appliance/child horror stories. We used to tease her about it but she felt she had the ultimate justification the time George McGovern (our cat, not the presidential candidate) was in the dryer when she started it up. She heard him bouncing around and meowing and let him out right away, but he was never quite the same after that.....
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Post# 24385-11/22/2002-10:39 ||| deeptub (Carbondale, IL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (Refrigerator Issues)
MESSAGE: And THAT reminds me that my worrier grandmother also had Refrigerator Issues. The last refrigerator she owned (1973 Whirlpool with IceMagic icemaker) had magnetic door seals (MillionMagnet seals, to be precise). So I would close it gently, like a normal person. But she'd say, "That isn't shut right!" And I'd say, "Yes it is. The doors close magnetically." And she'd say, "Oh, ok." But the next time she was near it she'd open it and slam that door so hard it would rock back and forth on its rollers. Ah, god love her.
T.
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Post# 24386-11/22/2002-13:25 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Dexter and the rest of my collection
MESSAGE: Hmmmmm.....Is anybody still wondering where the next convention will be held???????? Hee Hee, Don
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Post# 24387-11/22/2002-13:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike!)
MESSAGE: Although no one has said so, I am sure part of the adult yelling at us about playing with washers was the old "boys don't DO things like that". Remember they were of a different generation, so they couldn't understand that. My father, my uncles and most of my aunts were very vocal about my "fascination with womens' work". So I guess I embarassed my folks to death, but it didn't stop me at all. I always figured, I am as normal as the next guy. Besides, none of them ever were ever complimentary about my high school baseball career - man's work to be sure (although I must admit I had the whitest uniform on the team and my favorite part of the game was getting my uniform spotless and sparkling).
Funny though, even today, my sister misses no opportunity to inform me of how "emabarassing and unnnatural" my hobby is to her. I simply refuse to listen and wonder why she has so much free time to worry about my hobbies..............
Ha!! Revenge indeed.....
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Post# 24388-11/22/2002-13:52 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents
MESSAGE: Welcome to the site/club/best-damn-thing-since-sliced-bread! Discovering this site was almost as much fun for me as finding new family members.
After reading all your sad stories of not being able to watch/play with/use the family washer, I'm almost afraid to tell you that my Dad bought me a step-stool when I was a little kid so I could lord over our '60 Kenmore Model 80. My Mom would put the clothes and detergent in the washer and let me set the water level and push the cycle buttons. I can still remember every rhythm and sound that machine made...
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Post# 24389-11/22/2002-13:57 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
THE OLD ROAD HOME!
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone! Just finished reading Robert Seger's article on Frigidaire washing machines in THE OLD ROAD HOME. For those of you that don't know, The Old Road Home is The Old Appliance Club magazine. His article is in Volume VIII Issue #3 the Summer Quarter 2002. (yes, as you can see, I'm quite behind in my mail!) Robert starts at the very begining of the Frigidaire washer, and gives very informative information (with pictures!) on it's history before the war, and up until the brand was sold to White Consolidated. Surely an article to read over and over. THANKS ROBERT! Mark
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Post# 24390-11/22/2002-15:35 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (Washer Memories )
MESSAGE: Mike Welcome to a real great club
I am a New York member
Peter
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Post# 24391-11/22/2002-15:41 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: THE OLD ROAD HOME! (THE OLD ROAD HOME)
MESSAGE: That was a real great article - I enjoyed reading it.
Peter
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Post# 24392-11/22/2002-15:56 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents
MESSAGE: A foot stool? I can top that. One Christmas when I was a little boy I insisted on Santa Claus bringing me this toy Frigidaire washer with a three-ring pulsator just like the one on the 58 Imperial model. My father was adamant that his only son was not going to play with "a girlie toy like some damn sissy". But my great aunt, who always let me go in her basement and watch her 55 GE washing, bought it for me anyway. It was my favorite toy. If you turned the crank one way the pulsator would move up and down and when you reversed the crank the tub would spin.
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Post# 24393-11/22/2002-16:24 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents
MESSAGE: Lesto,
You just sent chills thru me. I had one of those washers. I had totally forgotten about it! Thanks for the memory.
Tom
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Post# 24394-11/22/2002-16:31 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents
MESSAGE: Well! When I was a little boy, my parents gave me a Wolverine washer for one Christmas, to embarass me. It was beautiful. Had like a timer control that when turned one way, it would wash, and when turned the other way, it would spin. AND it had a clear plastic lid that I could watch all the action through! I started taking in all the dolly laundry in the neighborhood to their dismay. Barbies really get their clothes dirty! I even put up a little clothesline and hung everything out to dry.....such the little homemaker was I! By the way, I still have that washer in my laundry room. I remember using Prell shampoo to wash the doll clothes since it made LOTS of suds! Mark
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Post# 24395-11/22/2002-17:11 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Wolverine washer)
MESSAGE: Can we have pics? :-)
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Post# 24396-11/22/2002-17:35 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: THE OLD ROAD HOME!
MESSAGE: Mark - is that a magazine that is available only through membership in The Old Appliance Club? I have never seen it anywhere.
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Post# 24397-11/22/2002-17:51 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: I had a toy washer and dryer when I was four - the picture of me playing with them is the link. I remember my grandfather saying to me things like "did you finish your women's work?" and the like, but I pretty much ignored all of that. When my grandmother bought a new Maytag washer in 1975, she had my grandfather put plumbing in their unfinished basement to install the old 57 Maytag down there. It was like a dream come true for me at age 9 - I spent hours down there washing in that old washer. All of the scatter rugs, cleaning rags, even greasy rags from the garage would be placed in my care. In reality they were probably indulging my strange fascination which kept me happy, but at the same time keeping it hidden in the basement!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/My+Appliance+Life...&.src=ph&.dnm=First+washer+dryer+-+age+4.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bAppliance%2bLife...%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24398-11/22/2002-18:40 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
washing a "queen"
MESSAGE: Any Equator owners tried washing a queen comforter in a 3600CEE? I realize it won't dry, but will it wash?
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Post# 24399-11/22/2002-19:10 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (I think you are right Jon.)
MESSAGE: Brent:
Sorry to hear your grandparents were so "friendly" with you!!!
As they say " It all comes out in the wash!"
jon
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Post# 24400-11/22/2002-19:11 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (Neighbors and Machines!)
MESSAGE: What they charge here in Boston is 50 to 70 cents a pound cleaned and folded!
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Post# 24401-11/22/2002-19:24 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike!)
MESSAGE: Wow did that ever trigger memories--"Theres nothing down there that would interest you!" Oh YEAH???? If I had a dime for everytime I heard that I could afford a time machine fly back to ohio 1955 and buy an APEX and beat Robert to the punch!!!!
jet
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Post# 24402-11/22/2002-19:27 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike! (paranoid parents))
MESSAGE: Dan! I've got to tell my step mom that story!! cats in the dryer sounds like a cat stevens song!!
jet
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Post# 24403-11/22/2002-19:45 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (Nice memories Mike!)
MESSAGE: I think your sister has washer evny! Or whitest whites envy!
jetcone
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Post# 24404-11/22/2002-19:53 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Same here!)
MESSAGE: Figilux:
My mom set up a real wooden soap box for me to peer into our 1956 GE with the beautiful Copper Backsplash!
She would leave me down there for hours and hours and was happy to let me do all the laundry!
On Saturdays I would make it upstairs at 11:30 to see "Rocky Jones Space Ranger" then a quick lunch and back downstairs. My friends would come for me every Sat to play and Mom would just send them down to the basement to get me.
That's is why I was always so confused as to why other people guarded their basement sooooooooooooooo jealously!
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Post# 24405-11/22/2002-19:55 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (wished I'd had one of those!)
MESSAGE: WOw they actually made a toy Frigidaire?? I have never seen one. Was it green on the outside?
jet
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Post# 24406-11/22/2002-20:06 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: Wow Greg that reminds me of my earliest memories! My parents got their new 1956 GE when we were still living in an apartment and so the machine was hooked up in the kitchen right beside the stove.
Being almost two and as always very tall for my age-- At dinner time Mom wanted to keep an eye on me and an eye on cooking so she would hoist me up on the counter and start a load with that new Copper pan filter flo washer. That would keep me busy and in sight all through the cooking of dinner!
I remember at 3 like it was yesterday when we moved into our house and I saw the washer go down the stairs to the basement I ran to my mother and was crushed that it wouldn't be put in the kitchen!! WOW That was an old memory! I also remember the horrible pea green wall to wall carpet and the cocoa walls! That lasted about a week after we got there!
This is fun! THese threads are really shaking up the brain cells!
jet
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Post# 24407-11/22/2002-20:13 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: What a cute pic of you. You look alot like me at that age. My older sister has a pic of me standing ona foot stool watching my Mom's 1955 top-of-the-line Hotpoint washer.
And I love the blue Maytag set. Are they a 57? Do you have any photos of the agitator and control dial?
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Post# 24408-11/22/2002-20:16 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (wished I'd had one of those!)
MESSAGE: Mine was pink.
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Post# 24409-11/22/2002-20:18 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: My aunt's 55 GE had a copper filter flo pan too.
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Post# 24410-11/22/2002-21:34 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: What a wonderfull memory!
Brent
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Post# 24411-11/22/2002-21:36 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (What?)
MESSAGE: What happend to your Washer Lesto?
Brent
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Post# 24412-11/22/2002-21:38 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: Greg,
You were so cute!
Do you remember when you turned your back and your father put your little washer and dryer in the garbage? LOL
Brent
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Post# 24413-11/22/2002-21:43 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: My Buddy has a 80's vintage GE "Spot Scrubber" clothes washer in sandy beige that just suddenly stopped working. Won't do anything when you push in the dial. We tried switching the water hoses, filling it with water from a gargen hose and nothing happens.
Acts as if it's not pulgged in, even though we verified power was available at the outlets we tried. My question is, would this machine be worth reparing? Is there an internal fuseable link that could have been tripped? Or posibly a short in the cord? Or does this sound like a bumm timer?
Washer highlights include: "mini basket" setting (though we don;t know where it is) on the water level switch. The water temperature buttons are chrome and to the left, an extra rinse switch is also present next to the cycle slector. Chrome and black theme for the back splash. "Hexagonal" like lid and the water discharges into the filter-flo insert from the NE side of the washtub rim. Bulk trash pickup is next week.
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Post# 24414-11/22/2002-21:45 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: I have a sneaking suspicion that's what happened to my toy Frigidaire. :(
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Post# 24415-11/22/2002-21:46 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: Sounds like the timer has shorted out to me.
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Post# 24416-11/22/2002-22:06 ||| Jeaniet (michigan)
SUBJECT:
Norge Time-Line Dryers...
MESSAGE: In the last 24hrs I have developed a new appreciation
for the antique I Norge time-line dryer I have in my
basement. Unfortunately it is because the heating
element died - everything else in good condition. I
moved into my grandmother's house last May and have
been using the dryer regularly. I had no idea how old
it was until I started grilling my Dad after every
appliance I contacted couldn't even find the model in
their database (AE620D - yall were talking about it
about a month ago...). So 1954 is what my Dad and I
came up with too. I need to find a replacement -
line-drying my clothes is not an option - but it
pains me to part with this great machine! Any ideas
where to find a new heating element or a good home for
my vintage machine?
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Post# 24417-11/22/2002-22:54 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: Greg, I had the SAME toy set, with a stove and dishwasher and sink/cabinet as well.
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Post# 24418-11/22/2002-23:32 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (RE: Welcome Jerseymike)
MESSAGE: WOW!!! Thanks for the WARM welcome everyone! :-) It's nice to have found a home!
My childhood experiences mirrored everyone elses. My family alternately tolerated/tried to discourage my "fascination" with washers, clotheslines and dryers. (I heard "That's for sissies" more times than I care to remember." Fortunately, they usually let me do my thing.) I was also fascinated by those GE electric stoves with the pushbutton controls. (The aunt who had the Frigidaire Pulsator in her basement had one of those. :-)) But that's another thread. My "fascination" came in handy when I got to high school. Mom started to work part time and I used help out by doing the wash. I had long ago put my fascination on the back burner so to speak, but it was nice to able to do laundry without having to worry what anyone else thought.
I always wanted a toy washer. I never had the nerve to ask for one. I once got yelled at for playing with one in the toy department in a local discount department store. It was pink and the tub spun when you turned a crank. I was doing just that when a salewoman started to holler. Do you remember those "Suzy Homemaker" toy appliances from the late 60's? They had a washer that worked (at least in the commercials) and I used to hope that someone would get one for my younger sister. Unfortunately, she never got one. :-(
This is fun! Thanks again for the warm welcome and for indulging my walk down memory lane! :-)
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Post# 24419-11/22/2002-23:38 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (RE: Welcome Jerseymike)
MESSAGE: Yes, my sisters (LOL) had a Suzy Homemaker washer. Unimatic has one still in the box, don't think he has ever taken it out. Somebody else around here also has one, but I don't recall who it is.
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Post# 24420-11/23/2002-01:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Norge Time-Line Dryers...
MESSAGE: The heating element in this dryer was a coil-type element that could probably be re-strung with a new coil. If you take the old element out and take it to an appliance parts store or repair shop, someone there could probably help you get a new coil for it.
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Post# 24421-11/23/2002-01:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: I believe the Spotscrubber washer was introduced in 1987 - Bob/appnut might know for sure. It sounds like you have a bad timer, but you could check with an electrical tester to make sure power it getting to the timer before you replace it. You should be able to find a new or re-built timer from Midwest Timer Service 1-800-253-7260, you'll just need the part number for the timer. Good luck!
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Post# 24422-11/23/2002-02:08 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicagp area)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: actually I believe it was 85 because my parents had "spotscrubber" washer bought new for their new house in 85. I had to read that twice because GE called their Dishwashers "potscrubber" dishwashers
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Post# 24423-11/23/2002-06:00 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (RE: Welcome Jerseymike)
MESSAGE: I had a Suzy Homemaker washer too but it wasn't nearly as much fun as the toy Frigidaire. I'm sure I embarrased my parents to death.
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Post# 24424-11/23/2002-06:59 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
Norge Picture - of - the - Day
MESSAGE: What a great looking pair!
I just wanted to ask who are providing the ads, and thank the persons that are providing the ads. (I think I remember Robert saying during the convention that someone was scanning some for him.) They are in such amazing wonderful shape! What a great collection!
Thanks for sharing.
Brent
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Post# 24425-11/23/2002-07:03 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Norge Picture - of - the - Day
MESSAGE: I agree, Brent. Does anyone know how long Norge made the Timeline machines? I believe 1954 was when they were introduced and had the blue trim on the control panel like the pair in the POD. And I know Robert's 56 has a gold trimmed panel.
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Post# 24426-11/23/2002-08:05 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Norge Picture - of - the - Day
MESSAGE: Well, Brent, I cannot take the credit for scanning, but I had sent Robert today's Norge ad (which incidentally features GregM's dryer), yesterday's Norge 15/Tide ad, and Thursday's Tide/Philco Miss America ad. Funny how they all appeared consecutively... These were ads from magazines I found at estate sales. I guess since estate sales around here don't turn up any vintage washers, I will have to settle for related magazine ads. (LOL)
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Post# 24427-11/23/2002-08:08 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Norge Picture - of - the - Day
MESSAGE: Robert would probably know this better than I , but here goes. I think Norge introduced the Timeline in 1951 or 1952, and continued until around 1958. That's when they introduced the "dispensomat". In fact I think the last year of the timelines was 1958 -but the control panel changed to a larger one in 1957.
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Post# 24428-11/23/2002-08:47 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info guys!. From what my buddy was telling me, it was running strong until this happened. I'm not a fan of GE washers, but since my new Frigidaire front loader won't be delivered until Dec 10th, I might repair this to get me by.
-Alex
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Post# 24429-11/23/2002-09:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (I already wrote it.)
MESSAGE: I already wrote a parody of Cat's in The Cradle a long time ago called Cat's in The Dryer. I'll have to search through the archives and repost it.
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Post# 24430-11/23/2002-09:37 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: washing a "queen" (washing a "
queen"
)
MESSAGE: I have washed a full sized comforter and it would take a Queen
It would never be able to dry it
Peter
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Post# 24431-11/23/2002-12:48 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: THE OLD ROAD HOME!
MESSAGE: Hi angus! This is the "newsletter/magazine that THE OLD APPLIANCE CLUB sends out every quarter. This magazine is heavy on the stoves and fridges but also includes old vaccums, mixers, toasters, etc. Very interesting club. They can be reached at http://www.theoldapplianceclub.com and I'm sure would be glad to tell you how you can subscribe. Mark
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Post# 24432-11/23/2002-12:57 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Norge Time-Line Dryers...
MESSAGE: The heating shroud can be restrung with heating coils from several different companies. I usually use Maytag but it doesn't really matter. I don't know the wattage on the norge, but 4500w and 5200w are available. If you're not sure, use the lesser wattage coils. Be careful when restringing that you measure the old burned out coils, and pull the new string out about 3 inches shorter..then start to restring the heater shroud. You do NOT want to stretch the coils "as you go", or the string will be very uneven and tend to overheat in spots and burn out prematurely. You might also want to change out the thermostats. FSP has variable temp thermostats that will most likely fit your needs. Take an old one with you so you're sure to get the right diameter for the application. Once this is done, excepting the belts, you'll have a "like new" beautiful timeline dryer.....and PLEASE! Don't forget to replace the light bulb in the control panel! Mark
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Post# 24433-11/23/2002-12:59 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Norge Time-Line Dryers...
MESSAGE: The heating shroud can be restrung with heating coils from several different companies. I usually use Maytag but it doesn't really matter. I don't know the wattage on the norge, but 4500w and 5200w are commonly available. If you're not sure, use the lesser wattage coils. Be careful when restringing that you measure the old burned out coils, and pull the new string out about 3 inches shorter..then start to restring the heater shroud. You do NOT want to stretch the coils "as you go", or the string will be very uneven and tend to overheat in spots and burn out prematurely. You might also want to change out the thermostats. FSP has variable temp thermostats that will most likely fit your needs. Take an old one with you so you're sure to get the right diameter for the application. Once this is done, excepting the belts, you'll have a "like new" beautiful timeline dryer.....and PLEASE! Don't forget to replace the light bulb in the control panel if it's burned out! Mark
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Post# 24434-11/23/2002-13:03 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Wolverine washer)
MESSAGE: I have yet to figure out how to get pics on this site! If you will email me with specific instructions, I will try...but remember... these new fangled computers I just don't understand. So far, I can get email, scan a picture, and find porn. This is a far as I've gotten. Soooooo your help IS appreciated! Mark my email is : bigrrfan@aol.com
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Post# 24435-11/23/2002-13:34 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Wolverine washer)
MESSAGE: I'm soo jealous of those of you who were lucky enough to have had a toy washing machine. Like I said, I never did get up the nerve to ask for one. I just did a quick google search for "toy washing machines" and came up the "Wash-o-Matic". It sounds interesting to say the least.
LINK: http://work.colum.edu/~matma/museum/washomatic.shtml
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Post# 24436-11/23/2002-15:04 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: Don't shortchange the older GE washers, Alex. They were really well built machines. Sure there were things that could have been better like handling unbalanced loads, but for the most part, they washed well, handled lint well, and spun reasonably well. And they did tend to oversuds, but then when you measure that against the drama of the constantly recirculating Filter Flo, it was a small price to pay. I must say that I really do miss my minibasket - not only was it fun to watch, but it actually worked very well. In fact the only real negative Consumer Reports could muster up was that their design was "dated and not as competitive as other brands". I suspect that this was right about the time that all other manufacturers went for the ratcheting screw agitators and mega tubs, so GE was not considered as progressive. I personally had no problem with that design - and would have preferred that they keep it instead of sacrificing reliability for the "new improved GE design" with plastic tubs and a useful life of under 5 years......
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Post# 24437-11/23/2002-15:11 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
Surf or All
MESSAGE: As a follow up to Mike's message the other day about Lever Bros plans to eliminate Surf, what they are doing is interesting. According to Lever Bros. Consumer Relations Dept, they are actually marrying both brands into the All name. So, it this is true, the existing All products will remain intact and available, and all the products previously labelled as Surf (powder, liquid and tablets) will be the same formulation, but will be labelled as All. Sounds kind of confusing to me. But at least I will not have to go out and buy cases of Surf powder and tablets - well, I might if I want to have the Surf name. Like I said the other day, this is the second time the Surf brand name has gone away. I wonder if it will reappear yet again someday............
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Post# 24438-11/23/2002-15:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Surf or All
MESSAGE: The "new" graphics on Surf packaging have the ALL logo. "with ALL stain lifters" or some such...
-ph
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Post# 24439-11/23/2002-15:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Atomic Warehouse in PA
MESSAGE: Browsing ebay, I found this auction that the seller had included pictures of his store. It looks like a real fun place to spend an afternoon! Scroll down to the bottom of the page for the store pics.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=736120435
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Post# 24440-11/23/2002-15:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: I am still saddened about the demise of the Filter Flo washers. They have their bugaboos like any brand as you say, but there are a lot of good things about them and you could do a lot worse for a washer.
I remember reading that comment in CR and have often wondered if that somehow precipitated the new and improved fiasco that are the GE toploaders of today.
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Post# 24441-11/23/2002-15:35 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Atomic Warehouse in PA
MESSAGE: That would be a fun store to see, and what a beautiful radio!
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Post# 24442-11/23/2002-16:26 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents
MESSAGE: Yeah, I'm a bit sad that I was consistently shooed away from our old circa approx '50 Bendix washer in the basement. I was actually frightened of it, especially when it oversudsed and Mom would get in a panic. I suppose I was warned never to touch it, and I gave it wide berth. Things sure changed when we became a single-parent family in a washerless flat in the city, and I was handed a few coins, my own laundry, and pointed in the direction of the nearest laundromat. I wish I had snuck some time with the Bendix when it was possible.
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Post# 24443-11/23/2002-16:33 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Surf or All
MESSAGE: I don't quite understand how SURF could be re-labeled as ALL since ALL is a low sudser and Surf gives a fair amount of suds...that's why I like it....and it cleans well! Mark
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Post# 24444-11/23/2002-18:02 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Wolverine washer)
MESSAGE: wait, you can find porn?
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Post# 24445-11/23/2002-18:04 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: angus,
I concur the minibasket was pretty handy. It was perfect for a quick wash of a sweater,ect.
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Post# 24446-11/23/2002-19:27 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: I guess my distaste for GE washers is a direct result of using a newer model with that awefull screw-type agitator.
I was used to using an older Norge designed Maytag model with the huge tub that stayed pretty much in the center, when I went to use my mom's newer GE, the tub was all over the place while I was arranging the clothes to be washed. I asked her if there was any problem with it and she stated it had always done that. I was not impressed.
I actually thought the filter-flo models were pretty cool! I don't have a problem with anything old, as long as it works and looks good. But I've come to the conclusion I am a Speed Queen/Frigidaire/Kelvinator man.
-Alex
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Post# 24447-11/23/2002-19:54 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: While I am not that fond of the GE washer, I always liked the swirl agitation system and thought it washed real well. For this reason, I'm keeping one of the "newer" models with the mini basket in my collection. I would love to find one of the GE Americana washers with the lighted controls to match the dryer I have in white! Anybody out there got one? Mark
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Post# 24448-11/23/2002-20:54 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Surf or All
MESSAGE: Peter, have you seen this already? I was told this wouldn't start until January 2003, but perhaps it was test marketed in your area......
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Post# 24449-11/23/2002-21:00 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Surf or All
MESSAGE: Actually Mark - All has not really been considered a true low sudser for a long time - certainly not since the days of "bleach, borax and brighteners". I am not sure if liquid All ever was a low suds product, but it sure isn't now. My experience with the current various flavors and forms of All would suggest that it is a "regular suds" product. Of course the only true way to tell for sure is to load up an old GE filter flo, add some All and let it go. If the entire top of the machine is not awash in suds within several minutes, you might have a "controlled suds product" on your hands. (LOL)
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Post# 24450-11/23/2002-21:05 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: Fair enough Alex. Not everything appeals the same way to everyone. I still think the GE is worth repairing though. Those things were built like tanks and if it's in good cosmetic shape also it would be a shame to let it go.
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Post# 24451-11/23/2002-21:18 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing? (GE Filter Flow Models)
MESSAGE: I remember seeing ads for GE Filter Flows (I'm guessing in the early '80's) that had a four compartment dispenser -- for detergent, bleach and fabric softener -- that was built into the lid. If I remember correctly, the forth compartment was for adding detergent to the prewash or presoak cycle. That's got to be one of the most unusual locations/designs for a dispenser! (How could you add a forgotten item to the wash once you filled the dispensers?) Did anyone ever own one of these model or at least get to see of them in operatation?
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Post# 24452-11/23/2002-21:38 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Childhood Washing)
MESSAGE: I Do! It was a pink battery operated model with one big control dial up front in the middle and a clear lid!
AND He was and still is a cutie!!!
jet
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Post# 24453-11/23/2002-21:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Surf or All
MESSAGE: I get a good head of suds in the 57 unimatic with new powdered All. I looked at the box when starting some whites a little while ago and there was no mention of lower suds or controlled sudsing, etc. I love to watch 90% of the bubble cake float away in the overflow wash! What a washer!
Bubble cakes are fun now and then, but I like to watch the clothes moving through the water more than a big pile of suds. Bring back orginal All and Dash!! (with phosphates)
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Post# 24454-11/23/2002-21:42 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (RE: Welcome Jerseymike)
MESSAGE: There is alot that Uni hasn't taken out of the box yet!!!!
Yeowooo I can't believe I just said that
signed--
waiting to be slapped in boston
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Post# 24455-11/23/2002-21:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: I want one too! I grew up with a near BOL GE washer and dryer and have never seen a mini-basket in action. A neighbor of ours had one, but I was shooed away from the washer many a time. I would love to find a TOL model to play with now. They were very 'thirsty' washers, but I could install it next to a Westinghouse top-loader and start my own marina!
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Post# 24456-11/23/2002-21:44 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Wolverine washer)
MESSAGE: Excuse me, but there are 12 year olds reading posts here.
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Post# 24457-11/23/2002-21:45 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (I already wrote it.)
MESSAGE: Yeah Jason I must have missed that one send us the link.
jet
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Post# 24458-11/23/2002-21:54 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Surf or All (Bubble Cakes????)
MESSAGE: I like that! I can make those in my '57 tee hee
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Post# 24459-11/23/2002-22:40 ||| Tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
My Christmas Present
MESSAGE: Thanks to Jimmy (Filter-Flo), my Christmas present will be in the form of an Avocado Frigidaire 1-18 set. They told me it will take about 14 days to get to me ... the waiting is always the hardest part! Jason, start saving up that laundry, it's almost time for more up & down wash action!!!
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Post# 24460-11/23/2002-22:51 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing?
MESSAGE: I guess I could drag this washer back over to my place for a little labatomy. I am going to need something to wash my clothes in while I count the days til my new Frigidaire arrives. (Damn, I think I just sounded like a little housewife!)
-Alex
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Post# 24461-11/23/2002-22:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Christmas Present (YEAH!)
MESSAGE: And in my favorite color. I can't wait for the next Land Of Rust washin. Well, if I find my Holy Grail (1970 Kenmore 800 set), the 3rd Land of Rust washin will be at my house.
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Post# 24462-11/23/2002-23:01 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (Here it is)
MESSAGE: To the tune of Cat's In The Cradle by Harry Chapin
(No, I"m not going to do this to Wizard)
I washed my clothes just the other day
Put them in the dryer in usual way.
I closed the door and I turned the knob
And let the thing alone and do it's only job
but it was thumpin' and a bumpin'
and that's when I knew
That Fluffy's in there too, yeah
You know he's in there tooo....
Well the cat's in the dryer in the Frigidaire
tumbling around with my underwear
Is he gonna make it I don't know when
I know I'll have a dead cat then, yeah
you know I'll have a dead cat then.
The Frigmore arrived just the other day
1000 rpm's just blew me away
but now it's time to put 'em in the old Frigidaire
and put the clean clothes in alot of hot air
Then the old familiar noise and that's when I knew
That I didn't wash my shoes, no
Oh no, what did I do
Well the cat's in the dryer in the Frigidaire
tumbling around with my underwear
Is he gonna make it I don't know when
I know I'll have a dead cat then, yeah
you know I'll have a dead cat then.
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Post# 24463-11/23/2002-23:21 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
On the subject of the older GE Models
MESSAGE: Happy weekend all!
I have a question about he older agitator in the GE models.
While watching the vintage commercials that we have on the club, I noticed that the Easy Automatic had a agitator that looked similar to the design of the older GE models. Was it very close in design? It appeared to have the same type of wash motion.
My mom had GE washers for years. I do agree that they washed well. I love that "thump" of the water as it agitates. Brought back memories at Peter's Mat hearing his coin-op GE's.
My mom never had good luck with these machines concerning dependability, they seemed to break down with trannie problems under 5 years. Throwing grease on the laundry, that never seemed to come out of the clothes that were washing. I would say that my mom used it every day, but it was always several small loads. She finally gave up on them, and started with the first models of the electronic control Kenmore's, getting the newer models whenever they came out. She was so upset about the GE's throwing grease/oil from the transmission, that she never would let the Kenmore's die, with a fear that it would do the same thing as her GE's. I had no problem with this because she would give to me the older electronic models when she replaced them with the new model. I just wish that I would have kept them.
I am getting wiser the older I get!
Brent
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Post# 24464-11/23/2002-23:47 ||| Sseth (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing? (GE Filter Flow Models)
MESSAGE: JerseyMike:
We had the GE TOL Americana in harvest gold in the late 70's. You are describing the 'Dispensall' system. It was a strange system, indeed. Our model used a resevior for holding the chlorine bleach within the Dispensall Lid system. However, the later models allowed you to add the chlorine bleach into the Dispensall and would route it immediately to a port in the Left front, under the lid (a typical 'direct' bleach dispenser). While the system worked fairly well it had two main glitches: As it used recirculating wash/rinse water containing lint to flush through the compartments, the system would get clogged up with gunk and malfunction. Secondly, and probably related to the lint, the siphon drains to the bleach and softener dispensers would also clog up and leave pools of water in the Dispensall. This would cause a drippy wet spillage mess if you tried to open the filled lid. Quirks aside, it was truely an awsome, noisy, thirsty machine filled with great wash action ...I remember the General fondly!
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Post# 24465-11/23/2002-23:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: On the subject of the older GE Models
MESSAGE: The Spiralator was Easy and Hotpoint. GE had a straight vane agitator back in the 50s but they did design a spiraled Roto-Swirl wannabe agitator in the 60s. I remember my grandmother's 60s GE and the sounds. The GE sound that brings back memories for me is the "click-clack" of the mini-basket in agitation.
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Post# 24466-11/24/2002-00:01 ||| Sseth (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT:
Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers
MESSAGE: Hi all:
I have a question that perhaps some of you experts may know the answer to. I am considering purchasing either a Kenmore, Whirlpool or GE 'compact' apartment sized top loading washer. I noticed that the Kenmore and Whirlpool unit are similiar to eachother, yet neither model resembles the 'traditional' Whirlpool design (Direct Drive, Dual Action Agitation). And, the GE has electronic touch pads with a stainless steel tub. Clearly, these are not 'traditional' GE characteristics. Does anyone know exactly who manufactures these newest units for Whirlpool/Kenmore and GE. Perhaps because they are so uncommon, the perspective companies 'hire out' to another manufacturer to produce these 'toy' sized washers. Any ideas?
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Post# 24467-11/24/2002-01:05 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (Here it is)
MESSAGE: Nice Dittey..
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Post# 24468-11/24/2002-01:26 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers
MESSAGE: The compacts the last time I looked, 3 years ago, do not have transmissions. In order to make the agitator operate they rely on a computer to split second reverse the motor contunuously. The motor is attached directly to the agitator. The "problems" with this are that it makes an annoying sound when agitating. Start/Stop/Start/Stop,... Also if the washer is plugged into a circuit that your lights are on, the lights are constantly "bouncing"-up,down,up, down,... In responce to the motor constantly starting and drawing electricity.
I certainly hope this isn't the future for Whirlpool washers. I don't think it is a good design. I don't why they changed from the previous model, which worked great. It truly was a miniture of the current direct drive Whirlpools and Kenmores and actually was produced long before the current standard capacity direct drive models.
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Post# 24469-11/24/2002-01:57 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (In the box)
MESSAGE: And putten some things back into the box! Now we know why Gladys was in that Coca Cola box!
Too far away to be slapped!
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Post# 24470-11/24/2002-05:47 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: My Christmas Present
MESSAGE: Congratulations are certainly in order on that one. Sounds like your New Orleans Christmas will be lots of "good clean fun". Enjoy those machines! Perhaps one of these days, someone in the club will extend themselves and help me find one of those machines.............
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Post# 24471-11/24/2002-07:42 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers
MESSAGE: This style of washer sounds like the style that has almost completely taken over here in Australia (for top loaders at least). The sound is indeed irritating and the flickering of lights must be a double nuisance in USA, on our 240volts it's generally not so noticeable, but on my solar power system it was very obvious, and wasteful of power as each change of direction takes another surge of power to get the motor up to speed again. They are generally very lightly constructed and don't have all that long a life. The originals of that design were Japanese and that is quite likely to be where the USA brand versions are sourced, or from Korea. The Australian companies Simpson and Hoover have made this type of washer since the mid eighties. They generally do a very good wash, much better than conventional agitator motion due to the very long stroke (often a full 360 degrees or more) but seem made to a price. The strong wash action suits the Aussie preference (not me) for washing everything in cold water.
The agitator isn't actually directly connected to the agitator, though it does look that way. In fact there is a small planetary gearbox in there, like the ones used in cordless drills but scaled up a bit. Some even have plastic gears. It is usually 5-to-1, 7-to-1 or 9-to-1 reduction. So for example in a 7-to-1, the agitator turns at one-seventh of spin speed. The Hoover Premier used a 7-to-1.
Pray that it is not the future of top load washers in USA. You may in future be looking back fondly at current GE and Frigidaire TL's for their ruggedness and reliability. (!!)
Chris.
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Post# 24472-11/24/2002-07:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers
MESSAGE: I have a belt drive 1977 Lady Kenmore portable washer. It has a dreadfully small capacity but it is a belt drive Kenmore and it makes all the cool sounds like a full sized Kenmore.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst?.dir=/pictures/Lady+Kenmore+portable&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/vwp%3f.dir=/pictures/Lady%2bKenmore%2bportable%26.dnm=thenetwork.jpg%26.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 24473-11/24/2002-07:57 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing? (GE Filter Flow Models)
MESSAGE: Sseth:
Thanks for getting back to me. I often wondered how that system worked. Quirks aside, it sounds like it was a great machine.
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Post# 24474-11/24/2002-07:59 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (Here it is)
MESSAGE: Wow! Great song. Thanks for sharing. :-)
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Post# 24475-11/24/2002-08:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing? (GE Filter Flow Models)
MESSAGE: The problem with the Dispensall is you couldn't open the lid to watch it run. I have a problem with any washer that won't let see what it's doing, like Maytag.
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Post# 24476-11/24/2002-08:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Atomic Warehouse in PA
MESSAGE: That store is on my way to one of my yearly roller coaster trips. Next year when I go to Knoebels Amusement Park in PA, I'm going to stop in and take some pics.
Those old bikes are COOL! I saw a BMW in there and I wonder what the others are. Hopefully, they're British bikes as well. Harleys are cool but Brit bikes rock!
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Post# 24477-11/24/2002-08:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD - Californ-y is the place ya' oughtta be....
MESSAGE: So they loaded it up the truck and they moved to Beverly... hills that is...
Push button Maytags, movie stars.
"JEDDDDD!!! How do ya suppose I run this new fangled warshin' ma-sheen?!"
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Post# 24478-11/24/2002-08:51 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Californ-y is the place ya' oughtta be.... (Push Button Maytags (11/24/02 -- Picture of the Day) )
MESSAGE: LOL. I also thought of the Beverly Hillbillies when I saw that picture! :-) A friend of my mother actually had the 1970's version of the push button Maytag. It had a matching push button dryer. I remember her once telling mom that she didn't like the dryer because you couldn't adjust the settings from what they were programed to do.
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Post# 24479-11/24/2002-09:17 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Wolverine washer)
MESSAGE: hi jersey mike...i am originally from bayside, new york....live in palm springs, CA for 5 years now....when i was a kid, my parents gave me a toy battery operated washing machine...i would was little pink ribbons off candy boxes in it...the put them on steam riser pipe in the bathroom in the wintertime and they would dry right away.....i remember the machine was light blue with tiny light blue agitator....my parents also gave me a toy dishwasher...i guess they are now both in "toy heaven"....ross roberts in palm springs, CA
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Post# 24480-11/24/2002-09:20 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Surf or All (all detergent)
MESSAGE: hi there....i noticed that too....it no longer says "controlled suds"...i like all anyway as a nice break from tide....i have used all in the 1947 bendix front loader i just got but have to be careful not to use too much otherwise suds all the way up the window....i looked in supermarket yesterday....not one detergent claims to be "low suds"....and with all the new front loaders that are coming back these days i am surprised...
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Post# 24481-11/24/2002-09:25 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (chilldhood memories)
MESSAGE: hi there....my parents gave up on me early...my mom knew that she could keep me quiet if she did a wash in our thor and i was parked in front of it with my head hanging over the tub watching the wash action...my dad once offered neighborhood kid a quarter to get me out the laundry room and play ball....but it didnt work....ross roberts in palm springs, CA
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Post# 24482-11/24/2002-09:28 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers
MESSAGE: I think those newer portable GE's are sourced from Haier. If it's the one with the clear, bifold lid.
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Post# 24483-11/24/2002-10:05 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers (Haier "
Calypso"
?)
MESSAGE: Here's a link. The older model used to have a smoked plexiglass lid, looks like this year they went to blue and molded in a grab handle. When I read the specs it sounded like a mini "calypso" washer.
Here's what Haier is saying;
"Haier Hand-Wash System - The top-load Hand Wash System is designed without a central agitator, which increases the machines clothes capacity and gently cleans your delicate washables. The specially designed pulsator at the bottom of the unit creates a cascading motion that gently lifts and bounces clothes through a continuous waterfall. This unique washing motion created by the pulsator allows the laundering of delicate washables that previously required costly and time consuming professional or hand washing."
-Alex
LINK: http://www.haieramerica.com/products.php?pid=64
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Post# 24484-11/24/2002-10:17 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Surf or All (all detergent)
MESSAGE: I agree, low sudsing detergents are hard to find and that's important for those of use who use front loaders. Too much suds can have a negative impact on a front loader's washing performance. (The laundry room in my apartment building has coin operated Neptunes. Their windowless doors make it impossible to monitor suds levels.) They've created those "HE" detergents for front loaders, but not everyone can use the most widely available versions.
I have very sensitive skin and have to use the "free" version of most laundry products, including detergent, fabric softener, dryer sheets, etc. The problem is immediate, I know that I'm in trouble if I experience a burning sensation when I fold laundry (and sometimes when I transfer wet laundry to the dryer). Both Wisk and Tide come in HE versions. I recently had a problem with Wish HE. I've been lucky so far, with Tide HE, but I dread the prospect of a "new and improved" version. I've had problems with the "new and improved" versions of other laundry products in the past.
I sent e-mails to both Tide and Wisk asking about "Free and Clear" HE version. There response was the market share of both products was too small to justify multiple HE versions. By doing a google search for "Free and Clear High Efficiency Detergents", I was able to find a "Free" version of a detergent called Persil. It's made in Europe and is very expensive -- $22, including shipping, for an 18 load bag of powdered detergent. OUCH! I ordered it once. I was happy with the way it washed, but I can't afford to order it on a regular basis.
LINK: http://www.totalvac.com/store/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=totalvac&Product_Code=Persilsensitive&Category_Code=persil
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Post# 24485-11/24/2002-10:39 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Welcome Jerseymike/Unsympathetic Parents (Wolverine washer)
MESSAGE: Hi Ross,
I know Bayside. Bell Blvd. has become the place to see and be seen among my Long Island cousins' Generation Xer kids. I'm also jealous of you toy washer and dishwasher. Wish I had one or both while growing up.
JerseyMike
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Post# 24486-11/24/2002-10:46 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers (so lucky)
MESSAGE: I always thought those washers were so cute, being a miniature of the large ones. And look you even have the add on temperature switch with dual inlet valve off the back. This tells me yours was originally made just as a portable with the slide in hose and possibly a spring loaded cord rewind. your so lucky. And it looks like it is in such good shape.
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Post# 24487-11/24/2002-11:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers (Check this out)
MESSAGE: Surfing Haier's website, find "Your Ideal Product". Crank up the stereo and listen to the cool music.
LINK: http://www.haieramerica.com/ideal_product.php
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Post# 24488-11/24/2002-11:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers (so lucky)
MESSAGE: Thanks. I got it at the first "Land Of Rust" Wash-in from Tcox619. It was at a house he was selling in a storage shed. I brought it home and plugged it in and it worked. In fact, I just washed some towels in it today.
FUN!
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Post# 24489-11/24/2002-12:14 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers
MESSAGE: That seems very much like the design of my Fisher & Paykel (a full-size top-loader), but there is no dimming-of-the-lights involved and the sound isn't annoying to me at all.
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Post# 24490-11/24/2002-13:19 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT:
Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: 1996 Kenmore 80 is almost dead. Have had repairman out 8 times in the 6 years we have had it. It is spining during drain down and leaking water. Is it worth having it fixed again. If we purchase a new washer what is the best. Wife thinks she doesn't want a F/L due to bad back and bending. We had a 1984 TOL Hotpont with the small agitator under the big one. Got dropped off moving van in 96 so company replaced it with one we have. We still cry for it as was such a good machine.
Charles
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Post# 24491-11/24/2002-13:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE "Spot Scrubber" washer worth fixing? (GE Filter Flow Models)
MESSAGE: So, the Filter Flo water went through the dispenser first, then down through the pan? I can see where that would have clogged up. I had a Sears with those water siphon dispensers and they work good, but you have to keep them clean. The machine's current owner did have the dispenser replaced at one point, and was told it was common they need replacing.
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Post# 24492-11/24/2002-13:50 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
Any belt driven whirlpool smarties out there?
MESSAGE: Heya guys,
I must be a complete idiot, i took apart a whirlpool washer that needed a transmission, well i swapped out the tranny but now the thing is stuck in spin during agitate and drain and obviously spin, its definetely not the wigwag i can see it doing its thing pulling the spin tube down but it seems the spin tube is locked in spin. did i miss something putting the thing back together or do i need to do something to make the spin tube work properly? HELLLLPP =)
~Steven
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Post# 24493-11/24/2002-14:05 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Any belt driven whirlpool smarties out there?
MESSAGE: The belt is too tight.
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Post# 24494-11/24/2002-14:19 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: Any belt driven whirlpool smarties out there?
MESSAGE: It might be as simple as reversing the colored wires on the "wig/wag"- the part with 3 wires coming into it on the transmission that engages and at different times.
Also it could be that one of the wires is broke. I had this happen once. one little wire broke(from the movement) and the whole machine seemed defective.
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Post# 24495-11/24/2002-16:53 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
Belt Drive Whirlpool problem
MESSAGE: Having replaced and installed hundreds of Whirlpool trannys, you most likely have the following problem: There is a plastic/fibre bearing that the flywheel/spin pully rides on. There is a keyway in this bearing and a silver metal ball bearing about half the size of a marble that fits in the bearing keyway. This ball bearing is what determines the clearance of the spin pully on top of the tranny. I know from vast experience fixing these machines that the bearing falls out very easily and rolls away unnoticed by the repair person. It is absolutely necessary that the bearing be present. Check to see if you lost it............
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Post# 24496-11/24/2002-18:30 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Any belt driven whirlpool smarties out there? (thanks everyone =))
MESSAGE: I'll go downstairs and try the suggestions!
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Post# 24497-11/24/2002-18:34 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Newest 'portable' 2.0 tub capacity washers (F&P vs Generic washers)
MESSAGE: Hi DADoES,
You are right, the wash action is similar but it is achieved differently. The F&P uses the brilliant Smart Drive motor, where the motor speed is dictated by the speed of pulses sent to it by the microcontroller. The F&P has virtually no start up surge so that's why there is no dimming of the lights. The difference between spin speed and agitate speed is dictated by the motor speed only. On the Generic washers like Hitachi, Hoover and Simpson, and now Samsung, Daewoo, LG and Haier and their OEM clones, a conventional induction motor is used to drive through a reduction gear for agitate (or "pulsate" for an impeller style washer) and for spin the gearbox locks up to give direct drive. The induction motor and the planetary gearbox both have characteristic noises which are to my ear at least much more irritating than the rhythmic whirr of the F&P on wash, though they are generally quieter on spin. (but not as fast). The clones also have a solenoid operated brake release on spin, which at least on the Aussie ones is so loud that they now come with a note inside "when spin cycle begins a loud noise indicates normal functioning of the brake release. This noise is not a fault." And your F&P will still be going long after the clones are all at the tip.
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 24498-11/24/2002-19:00 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt Drive Whirlpool problem
MESSAGE: Hello,
I think its the little bearing, i noticed that the white plastic part doesn't turn along with the shaft when the machine agitates and on the old transmission it does because the little ball holds it in place so it turns with the agitator. Ugh, i was so proud of myself for doing a complete rebuild on it and now i have to take the entire thing apart again!! But thanks FilterFlo I think you hit the nail on the head, err i mean the bearing in the groove =)
I'll take pics...
~Steven
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Post# 24499-11/24/2002-19:44 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Best Washer Help (Best Washer)
MESSAGE: In my opinion, the best top load washer out there for quality/price ratio is the Maytag extra large capacity. Some of them are called Atlantis, some have stainless steel baskets, some white enamel, some plastic, and blah blah. You will pay close to $450-500 for a Maytag(not a Performa by Maytag,steer clear) Maytags are the easiest washers to fix by the common person,and parts are readily available.
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Post# 24500-11/24/2002-20:44 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Belt Drive Whirlpool problem (bad spin tube or too much greace)
MESSAGE: Hello,
THe little ball is in its rightful place filterflo, i did put alot of zoom oil on the spin tube do you think its just sliding on the brake or is my spin tube busted?
Thanks
~Lost in belt drive land.
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Post# 24501-11/24/2002-20:56 ||| eagerbeaver (Toronto, Canada)
SUBJECT:
Help! My one eyed frog needs Viagra!
MESSAGE: Gosh, did I say Viagra? I meant NIAGARA! Hi, sorry I haven't stopped by for umpteen months and it would serve me right if you all ignore me. Pretty please, could someone tell us how to get the "waterfall" (recirculating thing that pours the water back into the top of the tub through the lint filter) rescuscitated on our 50's Kenmore? After ages of having them sit in the garage, we broke down and paid a guy to come in and overhaul our "one eyed frogs" so I can install them in my main laundry room. I'd actually given up on the idea and ordered a pair of Duets, which were the first new machines to come along in ages that really made me do a double take. But on reconsideration I couldn't live with the thought of all that complexity & plastic! We had a tough time finding anybody willing to work on our old machines, finally found this one old codger and he meant well I'm sure, but buggered it all up. He actually managed to find a brand new outer tub and one of those swaying things that hangs on long rods, that the tub sits on, both of which had rust starting up. The machine runs great and should last for another 50 years now from the looks of the innards, but he disconnected the waterfall and the suds saver in the process- didn't think they were essential to the repair. Hubby & I have been looking at it, (we've only ever worked on old cars before) and are theorizing that the a.w.o.l. recirculating hose might hook up to an outlet that sticks straight down from the pump, then back up into a big hole in the side of the tub, currently plugged. There's another outlet on the side of the pump, which is the only one hooked up now, that connects by a longer hose to the back of the lint trap but nothing's coming out any more- it used to be such a fat, gorgeous stream, it was one of my favourite things when we were playing around with the machine with the garden hose last summer. The service guy acted puzzled but I bet he knew darn well it wouldn't work. I let him talk me into deliberately removing the suds saver, saying it was "just an old gimmick". How could I be so dumb?! I don't care about the money we spent on the repairman, I just want to take it all apart agin and re-install the missing bits! Would it be possible to safely plug off the suds saver at the outlet for now, in case I ever want to use it in future? If anyone could advise us, or email if it's too long for the forum, I'd be grateful to the end of my washdays! Alternatively, if any of you have a service (not user's, I have one of those) manual for this kind of machine you wouldn't mind sharing, I'd be grateful for a photocopy at whatever price you need- I'm so in love with these old clunkers and have had NO luck finding any other sets, of ANY brand, around here in ANY condition. Thanks!!!
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Post# 24502-11/24/2002-21:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: Hi - Your question about the best modern washer to purchase would best be answered at the Appliances Forum. Our focus here is vintage or classic appliances and we try to keep our server and bandwidth expenses as economical as possible so it is important to us to stay on the vintage or classic appliance topics only. You will be overwhelmed with the amount of good information available in the other forum, I've linked you to it below. I read threads all the time there, some of the tests the members conduct are quite scientific and interesting to read.
Good luck in your search!
Greg
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/appl/
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Post# 24503-11/24/2002-22:20 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
Anybody Seen Far from Heaven?
MESSAGE: Was wondering what if any appliances make their appearance. I am a huge Sirk fan; might make the movie a Thanksgiving Day outing (when the hell else do I have time to see a movie?)
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Post# 24504-11/24/2002-22:39 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: Surf or All (all detergent)
MESSAGE: Hi Jersey Mike, Check out Sears, they have an HE detergent that is labeled as free and it is low sudsing. I have great luck with their regular HE detergent. Hope this helps. Terry
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Post# 24505-11/24/2002-23:13 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Surf or All (all detergent)
MESSAGE: Hi Terry. Thanks! I'll swing past Sears on my way home from work tomorrow. I knew that there was a reason why I didn't get around to doing laundry today. Thanks again. Mike
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Post# 24506-11/24/2002-23:28 ||| Ironrite (Las Vegas NV)
SUBJECT:
RE: Surf or All (Sensitive Skin)
MESSAGE: You might want to look for Ecos. It's a natural soap type liquid detergent. I get mine at Trader Joes, but I've seen it in natural food markets. I think it's about $10.00 for a 64 load bottle. I use though, about 1/2 a capful. It works very well in my Frigidaire F/L and keeps a low suds level. Of course our water here in Las Vegas is hard as rocks.
It also claims to have a built in fabric softener. I've used it without a softener and it does seem to control wrinkles and static cling.
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Post# 24507-11/25/2002-00:16 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Surf or All (Sensitive Skin)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Ironrite. I've seen it at Trader Joes. I've hesitated to try it, because I've literally been burned by other laundry products. I can't even begin to tell you how many times I've had rewash multiple loads of laundry (one advantage of not having my own machine is that I can do a weeks worth of laundry at once. :-)) because of a reaction to a laundry product. The way I figure it, I haven't got anything to lose. (Keep your fingers crossed. :-)) I'll pick up a bottle the next time I'm at Trader Joes. Thanks again. Mike
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Post# 24508-11/25/2002-05:43 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Surf or All (all detergent)
MESSAGE: Hi, Ross. If you are looking for a low suds detergent, try any of the following: Tide HE(powder or liquid), Wisk HE (liquid), Wisk, Surf or Purex tablets(but NOT Tide tablets), any of the Fab powders, or Fresh Start. Some supermarkets will carry all of these brands, or at least some of them.
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Post# 24509-11/25/2002-05:52 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Best Washer Help (Best Washer)
MESSAGE: Well, I understand that the current Maytag "Performa" line includes two distinct models. One is the original Performa which I guess is the old Tragic Chef design, and now the original reliable Maytag design (called Dependable Care) has been consolidated into the Performa lineup. I believe this is the true Maytag design and can be identified as the model numbers begin with LAT, while the Tragic Chef descendants' model numbers begin with PAV. So it may be worth looking at the current Performa line, but only certain model numbers. unfortunately, the LAT series washers have slightly smaller tubs -but certainly adequate enough and they have fewer bells and whistles than the Atlantis
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Post# 24510-11/25/2002-07:21 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Anybody Seen Far from Heaven?
MESSAGE: I saw it and I'm a big Douglas Sirk fan myself. While watching the film I was keeping a watchful eye open for some good 50's appliances since the story is set in 1957 but alas no washers or dryers. Must have been one of thosehouseholds with the laundry equipment kept in the basement out of sight. I did enjoy seeing the 1956 Buick Special two-tone station wagon Julianne Moore drove. My mom had a 56 Buick Roadmaster 4-door sedan just like it.
I did get a nice view of a Kelvinator electric stove and matching refrigerator in an old Cary Grant movie called "Monkey Business" the other evening. Ginger Rogers was cooking and the camera zoomed in very close to the Kelvinator name on the control panel of the stove.
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Post# 24511-11/25/2002-14:14 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Surf or All (all detergent)
MESSAGE: I don't use TIDE or any P&G product, since they test it in the eyes of animals, according to PETA. Mark
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Post# 24512-11/25/2002-14:30 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: Hi Charles! Check to see that the washer isn't spinning durring the agitation as well. If it is, the brake needs to be relined....it could also be the wig-wag solenoid or a wire leading to.... As far as the leaking, grab hold of the top of the agitator and move it back and forth. If there is any play from side to side, then the bearing needs to be replaced as this will cause it to leak....look up under the machine and see if the water is leaking from the central parts above the transmission...check these things and let us know! Mark
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Post# 24513-11/25/2002-14:50 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: Charles, If you do replace the washer, you might want to go to an appliance store that sells used rebuilt washers. There's still some good ones out there. I personally would much rather have a 10 year old Maytag, or really any brand, than a new one. The new ones are built so cheaply with a pretty hefty price tag. While Maytag is a favorite of mine, I really wouldn't reccommend a new one, as the newer ones don't seem to hold up that well. A friend of mine has a two year old Maytag that is already rusting!....and I know of no brand that is really any better. Speed Queen/Amana has transmission troubles. Maytag has had lots of leaky transmission troubles lately.....not to mention putting plastic parts where they don't belong. GE is a nightmare from any standpoint. The Fisher Paykel seem to have controller problems as well as leaky tub seals....and their dryer is nothing more than a glorrified GE! Whirlpools are not too bad but are real water hogs, if water is a problem in your area. I know of no other top loader that's even worth mentioning....except the calypso...people that have them either love them or hate them....the Sear's tech said that they have replaced lots of water pumps in those machines....so it's anybody's guess! Mark
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Post# 24514-11/25/2002-15:10 ||| thegreatfixer (Israel)
SUBJECT:
old westinghouse w/contacter
MESSAGE: hi there i have an old westinghouse dryer w/a contacter and three heating elements i need detailed info on rewireing it for differant current someone with info please email me thegreatfixer@yahoo.com
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Post# 24515-11/25/2002-15:27 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: Excellent suggestions. When I was in college one of our coin-op Kenmores developed a bad brake and caused the tub to spin during agitation. My old 55 GE had the same problem and so did my aunt's 56 Frigidaire.
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Post# 24516-11/25/2002-15:29 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: The new GE's are frightful they are so cheaply built and unreliable. It's a crime what that company has done to what was once a really fine machine.
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Post# 24517-11/25/2002-17:47 ||| TrainGuy (Southwestern Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help! My one eyed frog needs Viagra! (Welcome Back!)
MESSAGE: Hi Kathy,
Glad to see you're still with us. Sorry I can't help you out with Kenmore questions. But there are a lot of Kenmore experts in Applianceville.
I'll be coming to Toronto Thursday and will check out the usual appliance stores. The people are not too receptive to me bugging them. They always tell me the same thing - that there is a local lady who they save the oldies for. I still look anyway. Best of luck with your '57 washer repairs.
Rich
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Post# 24518-11/25/2002-19:00 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help! My one eyed frog needs Viagra!
MESSAGE: The expert that you want to talk to on this one is Bob Wirth. Mark
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Post# 24519-11/25/2002-20:40 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
A present for cleanteam
MESSAGE: Remember the kenmore with the agitator you liked? Well i sold that lady a dryer today and asked if i could swap agitators (came across a dual action kenmore and yanked out the agi) you still want it? So I have it at home if you want it...
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Post# 24520-11/25/2002-20:42 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
Porcelin tubs
MESSAGE: Hello all,
Is it possible to make a tub thats got the white porcelin flecks all white? Is that powder coating or porcelin or ? any thoughts on doing that =)
Oh and incidentally the whirlpools fine now, i forgot to put onthe little washer that goes on the plunger for the spin side of the wigwag, works great now! Thanks for all the help =)
~S
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Post# 24521-11/25/2002-20:45 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Best Washer Help (??)
MESSAGE: uh guys wouldn't 96 indicate its a direct drive machine?
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Post# 24522-11/25/2002-21:11 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: Checked the agitator and wasn't loose. It does not spin during wash just on drain down and only on the Ultra Wash perm press and regular was are ok as is the second rinse option spin. I have to wait until weekend to look inside the machine for the slow leak. Still has warrenty so will call service man again. WE do have the washer in a floor pan as it has flooded 3 times in the past put this pan in when we built this house in 2000. The are well worth the 20.00 we spent at Lowes recomend this for anyone with inside utility.
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Post# 24523-11/25/2002-22:09 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Best Washer Help (??)
MESSAGE: Sounds like something too new for this site...
-ph
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Post# 24524-11/25/2002-23:12 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Anybody Seen Far from Heaven? (A Beautiful Mind)
MESSAGE: Well, Im disappointed, but still plan to see the movie. Will have to check out "Monkey Business". I finally got around to renting "A Beautiful Mind" 2 weeks ago; the dishwasher in the kitchen was a nice surprise.
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Post# 24525-11/26/2002-02:34 ||| eagerbeaver (Toronto, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help! My one eyed frog needs Viagra! ('55 or '57 Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Gee thanks Rich, I don't deserve old faithful appliance pals like you! You seem to get to T.O. a lot so, is it just me, or is this burg a washer/dryer DESERT? Yeah right, "we save the oldies for a local lady"- I haven't heard a peep out of any of them in all this time!
I do have a lot of Kenmore questions now so I hope some of the experts hereabouts will take pity on me- or at least my old washer- but there are other dilemmas that are probably generic. Here are a couple off the top of my head:
1. Back when it still had the original outer drum, we tried the washer on spin without any water in it, just to see if the cycle worked. It did, and not only that, but when the air passed between the basket and the drum it made this funny whistling or humming sound, sort of like that singing sword in Bugs Bunny. Now with the new drum, it's dead silent. Does that mean we've lost spin speed or g-forces or something? Now that I understand a bit more about what makes a good washer due to having researched those Duets, I assume losing spin speed would be DEADLY on an already pokey old thing like this!
2. If the above is true, could it be because of the new drum? If so, is it possible to save an old drum that's generally solid but has a few small bad spots, e.g. with bondo or goop or something?
3 If it's not the drum, could it be the tranny? I forgot to say, the repair guy replaced that too, the old one might have been working and did seem to be doing its thing so far as we could tell back in summer, but there were a lot of old oil spatters inside the cabinet, which could have been from a previous tranny but he didn't want to take any chances & ordered a new one. Is there any advantage, in general, to keeping an original tranny even if you might have to rebuild it, rather than replace it with a new one? I only ask this because one time in a pinch we replaced the transmission in one of our diesel Rabbits with one from a gas model, and it took all the pep (relatively speaking) out of it.
3. What are the chances of complete neophytes getting a plastic control panel off in one piece, to touch up the paint in behind?
Well, lots more where those came from, but I better shut up now before I wear out my welcome. Oh, and the bad news is, we haven't even started on the dryer yet, because the service guy couldn't figure out how to wire on a plug & is currently looking for another 2-pulley dinosaur as a sample! Arrrgh! Thanks again! Kathy
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Post# 24526-11/26/2002-02:38 ||| eagerbeaver (Toronto, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Help! My one eyed frog needs Viagra! (Kenmore expertise)
MESSAGE: Thanks Mark. Is Bob Wirth a member here, and if so, what is his Applianceville ID? I sure wouldn't mind his email address! Thanks again, Kathy
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Post# 24527-11/26/2002-02:41 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
Hey Check this out! Only 10 years old ;)
MESSAGE: Some one is selling their belt drive whirlpool on ebay.
They claim it is about 10 years old!!!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2075692636&category=20714
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Post# 24528-11/26/2002-04:31 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Hey Check this out! Only 10 years old ;)
MESSAGE: Gee, it looks like it is from the early 60's - so it certainly is "at least 10 years old". But the agitator looks like they replaced the old one with the wavy vaned Surgilator......
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Post# 24529-11/26/2002-06:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Hey Check this out! Only 10 years old ;) (If I lived in Pennsylvania)
MESSAGE: I would bid on it in a heartbeat. It's in beautiful shape for being early 60s. I'd have to hunt for an original black/chrome top agitator though. That generic white Surgilator must go.
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Post# 24530-11/26/2002-09:19 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
MY OLD KENMORES - for Terry & others interested
MESSAGE: Here's a shot showing my Kenmores all back together.
Notice the sharp contrast between the black rubber foot pads and the pink floor. This is no accident. Dryers did not feature rubber foot pads, originally, however, I am going to add them for the sake for visual uniformity. They also help make the machines operate more quietly, by insulating them from the resonant cement floor.
Speaking of quiet, these machines operate in a nearly silent fashion, and are two of the quietest machines in the collection. Try that with your Frigidaire 1-18.
I , personally, wouldn't have one of those thrashing machines in my house (any longer ) as I have owned a number of them through the years, and I know what I'm talking about. Unimatics or multi matics are fine, but those 1-18 are all about how hard they can thrash, until they eventually thrash themselves right to pieces.
To each, his own.
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/MY%20OLD%20KENMORES.JPG
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Post# 24531-11/26/2002-09:42 ||| Tsirsv (Charleston, wv)
SUBJECT:
RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: I am interested in the Nu Tone food center.
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Post# 24532-11/26/2002-09:47 ||| Tsirsv (Charleston, wv)
SUBJECT:
RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: I am interested in the Nu Tone Food Center
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Post# 24533-11/26/2002-10:16 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: I have one of the last ones built in my kitchen. It was installed in 1989 under the Iron Away brand. It has NOT been a very good toaster. Been repaired 3 times and it gets little use. The man that does the repairs has told me that parts are no longer available for these toasters and of course he goes on and on about how cheaply made they were. Mark
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Post# 24534-11/26/2002-10:49 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: 1996, not 1976
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Post# 24535-11/26/2002-10:51 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Hey Check this out! Only 10 years old ;)
MESSAGE: That is a late 60's early 70's machine. The early ones said RCA Whirlpool, had the black bakelite agitator and the clear magic mix brush.
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Post# 24536-11/26/2002-11:11 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Hey Check this out! Only 10 years old ;) (OLDER WHIRLPOOL on ebay (at least 30 yrs old))
MESSAGE: I agree with Hqots. This washer is late 60's or early 70's, and the white agitator is most likely the original to the machine.
By the way, I've got one of those clear center, chrome trimmed brush type filters, for the RCA Whirlpool washer, in good condition, in case anyone needs it.
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/FILTER.JPG
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Post# 24537-11/26/2002-12:58 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
Free amana radarange and norge burp filters?
MESSAGE: I know you guys like these and i found one outside a thrift store and thought someone here would want it. =)
Also i got a monkey wards machine that spits water when it washes just like uni's norge does, is it the same under workings?? Can anyone give me a lead on why it doesn't spin but the motor runs and pumps?
Oh and i took a picture of the agitator i took out for cleanteam if he still wants it. All the pics are in the link below...
Thanks for always bein so helpful!
~Steven
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/washerstuff/vwp?.dir=/my+washers&.src=ph&.dnm=Washers+041.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/washerstuff/lst%3f%26.dir=/my%2bwashers%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24538-11/26/2002-13:23 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (not spinning)
MESSAGE: Take the front off your washer (by removing the two 5/16 nuts ) and you'll see a big solenoid near the bottom of the mechanism - that's the brake solenoid. If anything is wrong with this, it won't let loose the brake and allow the machine to spin. Check to see that both wires are attached, and that the solenoid itself still has continuity. Also check and see that it throws freely, and indeed, does disengage the brake pawl.
Take a picture, while you're at it, and that'll help anyone else here to try and diagnose your issues. Of course, the lid switch on the machine must also be in good working order, because this washer will not spin if it thinks the lid is 'open'.
Best of luck.
BOB
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Post# 24539-11/26/2002-15:18 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (not spinning)
MESSAGE: hiya bob,
Yeah i see the big solonoid, it doesn't have power but when i pull it back it does spin, tracked it up to the lid switch and wired the 2 wires together, no joy. I'm thinking its the timer, plus when you start the machine it never fills, just progresses right to dry agitation so more evidence to support a bad timer? Hope apc doesn't gouge me for a part =)
Thanks Much,
Snorges are pretty cool under the hood. Looks like an orbital tranny maytag to me. Bet that brake makes a racket when i stops the basket!
~Steven
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Post# 24540-11/26/2002-15:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Hey Check this out! Only 10 years old ;)
MESSAGE: That's too funny, aaarrroohhh! You of course may not be familiar, but this washer is more like 30-35 years old. A nice one it is though! Scott
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Post# 24541-11/26/2002-16:21 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (not spinning)
MESSAGE: Steve, it could be the water level switch (pressure switch) that is faulty. I don't think that machine will release the brake (energize the brake solenoid) until the tub is nearly drained.....sort of a partial neutral-drain. Your comment that the machine agitates when empty is the key here.....it should not do this......I'm thinking the contacts that energize the main motor and timer advancement are welded/stuck. If you can find the wiring diagram, it'll tell you which contacts to check with you ohm-meter. Good luck!
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Post# 24542-11/26/2002-17:00 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: MY OLD KENMORES - for Terry & others interested
MESSAGE: Bob,
Very nice~!
-Alex
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Post# 24543-11/26/2002-17:07 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (not spinning WATER LEVEL SWITCH)
MESSAGE: Yup. Sounds like you have a bad water level switch to me, too, at this point.
Do let us know how you make out with it. Sounds like you've elimated most of the possibilities now. Go at the water level switch and see what you can find. Take the clear pressure tube off it and try blowing with your lips onto the fitting...you should hear a little clicking sound when the pressure is equal to that of a full tub of water, and when you stop blowing, you should hear another click when the switch returns to the normal position, as with no water present. It is usually the center terminal which is common, and the switch goes between the center and either of the two outside terminals. check the wiring diagram.
BOB
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Post# 24544-11/26/2002-17:09 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: MY OLD KENMORES - for Terry & others interested (THANK YOU)
MESSAGE: Thank you, Alex, for the compliment.
I just LOVE my Kenmores. They're sweet.
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Post# 24545-11/26/2002-19:36 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
early 60s GE wash/dry
MESSAGE: Anyone need a matching white GE filter-flo washer and dryer from the late 50s or early 60s?
They are both in fairly good condition. The washer has the "traditional" clipped corner lid. They are similiar to the picture in the "rewards" section of the site under GE, 3rd picture from the left. The tub is black perforated with black agitator. It has the smallest mini basket I have ever seen along with the filter-flo pan. The buttons are white piano key type that you push down(as apposed to in). It includes selections for speeds, temperatures, water level, and sudsaver. The matching dryer is called a "compensating dryer" ? but it matches. Let me know if interested. They are in the Milwaukee, Wisconsin area.
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Post# 24546-11/26/2002-19:56 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (OMG!)
MESSAGE: My Aunt has that same washer w/ matching dryer! The dryer squeaks but that is fine to me. That has been a dream since I was little! That was the only Montgomery Wards washer I ever saw! It was always scary to me. It was loud when changing cycles. An earpeircing clang was heard, I will always duck and cover when that machine is running! It is so cool! The control board always looked "angry" to me. I have always been dying to have a machine like that. Hint Hint ;-)
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/washerstuff/vwp?.dir=/my+washers&.src=ph&.dnm=Washers+029.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/washerstuff/lst%3f%26.dir=/my%2bwashers%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24547-11/26/2002-19:57 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: A present for cleanteam
MESSAGE: Yes, yes, yes!
I will E-mail you!
Thanks,
Larry
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Post# 24548-11/26/2002-20:28 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: MY OLD KENMORES - for Terry & others interested
MESSAGE: Beautiful machines! Handsome man, too.
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Post# 24549-11/26/2002-21:17 ||| Sward4 (Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: If you still have the attachments for your Nutone
Food Center Model 250 and will be disposing of them.
I would be interested in purchasing them. Please
send me a list of what attachments you have and the
asking price.
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Post# 24550-11/26/2002-22:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (Radar Range)
MESSAGE: Does the Radarrange work and how much would it cost to ship it to New Orleans, LA?
If the shipping isn't bad and it works, I'll take it. That's one of my dream machines.
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Post# 24551-11/26/2002-22:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters?
MESSAGE: That's funny.
I was just at my friend's house watching his tired old Magic Chef washer (which has the same insides, EXACT same agitator). The agitation sounds almost like Uni's Norge. It goes uuUUUuuuUUUuuuUUUUuuuUUUUuuuhhhhh....
Unfortunately, the old washer's leaking water and the rust is eating her alive. Washers down here in New Orleans die a slow and painful death.
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Post# 24552-11/26/2002-22:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: MY OLD KENMORES - for Terry & others interested (THANK YOU)
MESSAGE: Kenmores are so Kool!
Nothing like the Kenmore whine at the end of a long, stressful day.
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Post# 24553-11/26/2002-23:57 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (not spinning WATER LEVEL SWITCH)
MESSAGE: You guys were right on the money! Its the water switch!! I gave it a wap with the hammer and it started filling and spinning too!! Now all i need is a pressure switch, i can't believe how spotless this machine is under the hood, that spin solonoid sure is noisy, wap clank at agiation and the end of spin =) Thank you so much guys!!!
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Post# 24554-11/26/2002-23:58 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (Radar Range)
MESSAGE: I have no idea if it works but there aren't any missing parts. i just saw it and thought someone here would like it. I can call and ask about the shipping but man that thing is a heavy little monster!!
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Post# 24555-11/27/2002-00:07 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (OMG!)
MESSAGE: heh heh, if you want it come get it, its just going up for sale soon as i get that pressure switch.
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Post# 24556-11/27/2002-07:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: MY OLD KENMORES - for Terry & others interested
MESSAGE: Beautiful machines Bob - and I love the floor color too!
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Post# 24557-11/27/2002-07:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Hey Check this out! Only 10 years old ;)
MESSAGE: Yup, this was a lower end model, about the same vintage as that 1968 gas dry that was on ebay a week or so ago. My WP washer was very similar to this one.
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/MUSEUM/Whirlpool/Gregs-Gansky%201967%20Whirlpool%20Washer/Gansky1-1967-WP-Automatic.jpg
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Post# 24558-11/27/2002-08:49 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
1956 Wisk commercial
MESSAGE: Could it be a Philco? Or maybe a speed queen? Perhaps a Simpson?
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Post# 24559-11/27/2002-09:11 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT:
Thanksgiving holiday
MESSAGE: Best wishes for a bountiful holiday. Leslie
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Post# 24560-11/27/2002-09:41 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (not spinning WATER LEVEL SWITCH)
MESSAGE: Glad you have him up and running. My oldest sister had a Norge which was basically the same machine as yours and I remember how god-awful noisy the tranny was in it. When it would change from agitate to fast drain and spin it sounded like the guts were falling out of it. It also had one of the deepest tubs on any washer I've ever seen.
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Post# 24561-11/27/2002-09:42 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday
MESSAGE: Same here. I hope everyone has a safe and festive Thanksgiving holiday.
Les
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Post# 24562-11/27/2002-11:37 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RUBBER TUB DISASTER!
MESSAGE: Jesus! Running 4 washers today, and my little Bendix Dialmatic decided to pee the floor.....bigtime...and it's coming from the wash tub....
Oh Jesus!
So, prepare for a long series of photos, showing the disassembly and reassembly of a Bendix Rubber tub washer.
This is the first time it's peed the floor for me in nearly 20 years I've been using it, so, I guess it's time.
I'll get right on this....
BOB
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Post# 24563-11/27/2002-12:01 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: early 60s GE wash/dry
MESSAGE: Sounds like great machines. Do they have lighted control panels? If so, I'm interested! Mark
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Post# 24564-11/27/2002-12:06 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: RUBBER TUB DISASTER!
MESSAGE: Bob, my condolences! But it made me think about how water temperature, particularly in the winter would effect the pliablity of the rubber. I am guessing that a cold rinse following a hot wash would really stress the tub, does this make sense? And if this is a factor, would using a "dressing" on the outside of the tub help prolong it's life?
Tom
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Post# 24565-11/27/2002-12:31 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RUBBER TUB LEAK
MESSAGE: O.K. I have it all out...only one bolt broke....darn it...that slows me down getting it back together...
The leak occurred between the aluminum tub mounting flange and the tub itself...fortunately, a good cleaning, and silicone application on these lips will be all that's required...of course, I'll have to get the broken bolt out too, darn it...After gym...later today...But here's some photos to get you started.
Fortunately, the rubber tub, itself, is just fine. Whew.
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/RUBBER/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24566-11/27/2002-13:02 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT:
RE: RUBBER TUB LEAK
MESSAGE: Your machines looks just like the washer one of my grandmothers had. Does this one fill from a hose attached to sink. Hers was a semi-automatic as I have fond memories of adding the water for wash and rinse. Worked great for her as she lived in the country and water was hauled in by truck.
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Post# 24567-11/27/2002-16:10 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: RUBBER TUB LEAK (SEMI-AUTOMATIC)
MESSAGE: Yes. Exactly. This is the semi-automatic model, and is filled through the lid, with a hose. I generally use the water discharged from another washer for filling and rinsing.
This model is called the Dialamatic.
O.K. Just home from the gym...gotta get back to work on the little Bendix...busted bolt to remove...and lots of cleaning...I'll send more photos later.
BOB
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Post# 24568-11/27/2002-16:35 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1956 Wisk commercial
MESSAGE: Almost...
It's a Maytag.
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Post# 24569-11/27/2002-19:45 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
ALERT!
MESSAGE: Mom is on the virge of saying yes to a Mytag Wringer! Model E2L! I love the agitator in this one! It is in minneapolis, we are thinking about picking it up on Christmas break! It works and everything! All it needs is a new paint job and yessss! A perfect wringer to display in my room! P.S. I will be staying a couple of days if anything!
Best Washes
-Jamie-
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Post# 24570-11/27/2002-21:08 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: Leaving for sunny (and hopefully warmer) Florida in the morning.
Taking the trailer down. Hoping to come back with some treasures. Wish me luck!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 24571-11/27/2002-21:21 ||| jgp57 (dearborn michigan)
SUBJECT:
thanksgiving
MESSAGE: HAPPY THANKSGIVING GUYS, GREAT POD TODAY.JGP57
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Post# 24572-11/27/2002-21:26 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
HAPPY THANKSGIVING ALL
MESSAGE: Too tired to complete the reassembly tonight. It'll be Friday before I get my rubber tubbed buddy back together, but I do have an interesting discovery about why it leaked...
Improperly formed mounting flange.
More details (and photos) on Friday.
Hugs to you all, and PEACE.
BOB
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Post# 24573-11/27/2002-21:52 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
Happy Thanksgiving!!
MESSAGE: I want to wish everyone a very Happy Thanksgiving
I hope you all enjoy the holiday and look foward to a lot of chat and washing.
Jetaction
Peter
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Post# 24574-11/27/2002-22:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday (Happy Thanksgiving Applianceville)
MESSAGE: Happy Thanksgiving Applianceville! Hope everyone has a wonderful Turkey day tomorrow!
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Post# 24575-11/27/2002-22:06 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALERT!
MESSAGE: Wow, that sounds like fun Jamie and since you'll be staying here in Minneapolis you'll have to come and see my collection.
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Post# 24576-11/27/2002-23:14 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday (Happy Thanksgiving Applianceville)
MESSAGE: Wishing everyone in Applianceville a happy and safe Thanksgiving!! Terry
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Post# 24577-11/27/2002-23:26 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: ALERT!
MESSAGE: YAY!
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Post# 24578-11/28/2002-00:28 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT:
Happy Thanksgiving from the Flair and I
MESSAGE: The Flair and I are busy preparing for the big day, but we wanted to wish you all a Happy Thanksgiving.
LINK: http://www.danlangdon.com
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Post# 24579-11/28/2002-01:06 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: To each and everyone of you wonderful guys here. Y'all are like family to me. Haven't been around much, have had other things on my mind recently. Hark, I hear thrmostats clicking, burner coils heating up, dishwasher running, and washer running to clean the table linens.
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Post# 24580-11/28/2002-06:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving (GOBBLE GOBBLE)
MESSAGE: The thanksgiving turkey will be cooking in a classic appliance. A 1965 Tappan gas wall oven.
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Post# 24581-11/28/2002-06:39 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving from the Flair and I (gold medallion )
MESSAGE: Hi dalangdon,
I loved the pic, especially the "gold medallion".
You might be surprised to know that they had that promotion here in the state of Victoria, Australia in the late 1970's.
The medallion even looked similar, with the silhouette of three people and the words "living better electrically". There were still some of these signs on poles not far from my parents' house a few years ago, I am visiting them next week so I will see if they are still there. The words "total electric home" on the US medallion in the pic were "all-electric home" here in Aus.
The Authority was at that time state owned, the State Electricity Commission of Victoria. (SECV) The SEC had a scheme where if your house was set up to use large amounts of electricity (they didn't put it so blatantly) you would have a gold medallion installed on your house near the front door, and you got a hefty discount on your electricity bill. You had to have electric hot water, electric home heating (storage heaters), a minimum of five power points in the kitchen, two in the laundry, three in the lounge, one in the bathroom and one in each bedroom. My parents investigated getting it but they had oil heating so didn't qualify.
We lived in a newly developing area and many new homes in the area proudly had their gold medallions on the wall. Of course in a short while the promotion was stopped, the discount was dropped and the poor suckers had huge increases in their bills!! (not that we didn't with oil heating in the late seventies!)
I will look around when I visit, see if any gold medallions are still to be seen.
Chris.
PS.The stove looks like the Simpson Fabulous 400 which was sold here.
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Post# 24582-11/28/2002-06:51 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT:
RE: Free amana radarange and norge burp filters? (not spinning WATER LEVEL SWITCH)
MESSAGE: That's so funny as my oldest sister also had one of those Norges, (I believe 18 or 20 pounders) back in the early '80s. It was coppertone color. I remember on my visits to her in San Jose, I would do all her washing while she was at work and would stress over whether or not the machine would get thru each load without breaking down because of the noise and constant racket it made! It was the noisiest machine I've ever come across. AND, I also agree that it had the largest tub I think I've ever seen in a washer. She married just before Sears went to their awful direct drive machines (around '84 or '85) and still has one of the last years belt driven Sears W/D sets Sears made. She loves it but still overloads it in my estimation. AND I tell her so everytime we're together and I watch her do a load. She's already had new clutches put in. I also have a '78 Kenmore with a dual action and big tub which I love.
I might be having problems getting my Frigidaire 1-18 home safe and sound. The repairman says he can't break the hub away from the outer tub and is getting real frustrated over it. He's even drilled a hole in it and inserted a screw but still can't dislodge it. I'm starting to get concerned I might not ever see it do a load of 501's. I want that machine so bad I can almost taste it. Anyone have a suggestion I can pass on to him?
I wish each and everyone of you great guys a wonderful and bountiful Thanksgiving and holdiay season.
Dick
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Post# 24583-11/28/2002-07:06 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday (Happy Thanksgiving Applianceville)
MESSAGE: Same here from chilly Connecticut. As we assemble at our respective tables today I know we will all remember how fortunate we are. And although this past year saw the loss of a job, a mother and a very dear friend and neighbor of many years, there is still much to appreciate and we will still gather as we have always done. A bit sadder perhaps for our losses, but still luckier than so many who have nowhere to go or anyone to share with. And to replace those senior members who have left us, a brand new set of twins to fuss over and provide endless laundry for our entertainment.
Now if I could only find a 1-18 in poppy or that Norge Timeline.......
Best Wishes to all of you.
Anthony
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Post# 24584-11/28/2002-08:30 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
Dick S: Stuck 1-18 Frigidaire Hub
MESSAGE: Hi Dick,
The hub can be very HARD to remove. I have the Frigidaire Tech Master that shows and tells how to do it. If you want a copy of it, email me your address, or I could fax it to you if needed. Jimmy
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Post# 24585-11/28/2002-08:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Happy Thanksgiving
MESSAGE: to all in Applianceville! I am off to Wisconsin for today and tomorrow. See you all soon!
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Post# 24586-11/28/2002-09:15 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thanksgiving holiday (Happy Thanksgiving Applianceville)
MESSAGE: Very well put Anthony, I am sure we can all relate in one way or another........Happy Thanksgiving everyone !! -gregm
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Post# 24587-11/28/2002-09:31 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT:
Oodles and oodles of classic appliances
MESSAGE: Just got a satellite dish and the programming package that includes Game Show Network.
Vintage "Let's Make A Deal" and other shows ara a virtual video museum of 1960s and later chrome-dripping appliance beauties.
Definitely worth tuning in. :)
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Post# 24588-11/28/2002-10:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
For Being Thankful...
MESSAGE: Best wishes to everyone for a fun filled and safe Thanksgiving Day.
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Post# 24589-11/28/2002-11:44 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Happy Thanksgiving Applianceville and Members!
MESSAGE: Happy Thanksgiving to you all! Better start settin the table with a special for my Easy Whirldry and a lot of special places for my 12 agitators! HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVERYONE!
Best Washes! and eats :-)
-Jamie-
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Post# 24590-11/28/2002-11:51 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving Applianceville and Members! (Happy Thanksgiving Everyone)
MESSAGE: Best wishes for a happy and safe holiday. Full of good food, family and friends. I've got a cranberry-apple pie in the oven. When it's done, I'm off to my folks. Enjoy!
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Post# 24591-11/28/2002-11:53 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
Today's Pic of the Day (Kelvinator top loader with window)
MESSAGE: Check out that windowed lid! I wish more top loaders came with one. Talk about a great way to check out the action.
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Post# 24592-11/28/2002-15:07 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Oodles and oodles of classic appliances
MESSAGE: Oh...., I love that station and I wish they never took of the *Gong Show!*
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Post# 24593-11/28/2002-15:47 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Oodles and oodles of classic appliances
MESSAGE: I just got in from work, and I wanted to say, *took off!*
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Post# 24594-11/28/2002-15:52 ||| cleanteamofny (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
Happy Thanksgiving!
MESSAGE: I like to wish everyone in Applianceville a Happy Thanksgiving and a safe holiday season!
CleanteamofNY
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Post# 24595-11/28/2002-16:44 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
From my appliances to yours may you all have a Happy Thanksgiving !
MESSAGE: Happy Thanksgiving !
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Post# 24596-11/28/2002-22:06 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's Pic of the Day (Kelvinator top loader with window)
MESSAGE: wouldn't it be cool if we found the little de franks and tell them were still enjoying their little ad and that we see their baby pictures?
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Post# 24597-11/28/2002-23:56 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
THANKS TO ALL FOR THE HOLIDAY WISHES!
MESSAGE: Thanks to all of you for you wishes! I had a great Thanksgiving! I hope all of you had the same!
Brent
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Post# 24598-11/28/2002-23:57 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving from the Flair and I (Great Photo!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the picture!
You looked like you were have a great time with your Frigidare range!
Brent
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Post# 24599-11/29/2002-07:59 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
PODfriday29th
MESSAGE: Is this American Motors Corp?? Anyone know anything about this machine?? Looks like it was built pretty well.......anyone have one in their collection??
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Post# 24600-11/29/2002-08:03 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: PODfriday29th
MESSAGE: Yeah, that's confusing. American Motors made the Kelvinator washers but I think this washer ain't a Kelvy. This looks more like a Speed Queen or Franklin washer than a Kelvinator.
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Post# 24601-11/29/2002-09:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Happy Thanksgiving from the Flair and I (Great Photo!)
MESSAGE: She has that "Frigidaire Glow" that comes standard with the Flair!
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Post# 24602-11/29/2002-09:40 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT:
RE: Dick S: Stuck 1-18 Frigidaire Hub (Stuck 1-18 hub`)
MESSAGE: Jimmy-
A million thanks for coming to the rescue! My email address is stmpstrt55@earthlink.net. As soon as I receive it from you I'll get it to the repairman. I really appreciate this Jimmy.
Dick
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Post# 24603-11/29/2002-09:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: PODfriday29th
MESSAGE: This washer was made by Easy - Spiralator agitator and the "Velva-Power" direct drive transmission are the clues. AMC was a store brand, no relation to American Motors.
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Post# 24604-11/29/2002-10:14 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT:
RE: PODfriday29th
MESSAGE: I remember the AMC stores they were like the super centers we see today. My folks shopped there. I believe it was a membership store. They sold everything from food to appliances. The store they shopped at was in Oklahoma City.
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Post# 24605-11/29/2002-10:36 ||| jgp57 (dearborn michigan)
SUBJECT:
flair& I
MESSAGE: delightful photo i and several freinds laughed so hard. thanx jgp57
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Post# 24606-11/29/2002-13:31 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Kenmore Vismatic!
MESSAGE: It works, Perfect cond. according to the seller
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=926249355&category=20714
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Post# 24607-11/29/2002-15:35 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
Overflow rinse
MESSAGE: I enjoyed the pod and it got me wondering why overflow rinsing fell out of favor. Was it due to the amount of water it used or did it really not work as well as current spray rinses. btw the pod really helped understand how solid tub units worked.
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Post# 24608-11/29/2002-19:37 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
AMC washer
MESSAGE: The AMC on a washer stood for Associated Merchandising Corp, which was a distributor of appliances to local store brands. By that I mean they supplied off branded appliances to independent department stores such as Macys, Kauffmans, Oneils (in Ohio), Hudson's in Michigan, JCPenny's, and the like. It made it possible for big department stores to have a "house brand" along with the other major names in appliances. Gansky is correct that the POD was made by Easy. In Ohio we even had AMC televison sets. I see them around still every now and then............
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Post# 24609-11/29/2002-21:09 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse (Interested in this also.)
MESSAGE: I think that this is a great question.
In my own thoughts I don't think that the overflow rinse used more water, due to the little water that was used to fill only one tub.
Why did they stop the solid tub / overflowing type washing?
What company was the last to use this type of solid tub wash action? Was it Speed Queen?
I don't know if this was ever covered in topic here on the club.
Thanks
Brent
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Post# 24610-11/29/2002-23:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: Westie2, it is my ujnderstanding that as these direct drive thransmissions get weaker, they begin to not do a neutral drain and start spinning as they drain., My 1986 Lady Kenmore usually does this on the very irst wash cycle or two, then after that, for the rest of the wash loads for the day, it works properly.
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Post# 24611-11/30/2002-00:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse (Interested in this also.)
MESSAGE: Brent I believe Speed Queen was the last to use this technology (ending in about 1980) and I belive it has something to do with this type of system not being compatible with large capacity tubs (maybe because of the size the outer tub would need to be vis a vis cabinet size?)
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Post# 24612-11/30/2002-01:15 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Best Washer Help
MESSAGE: The appliance gods may get mad about this but........
the neutral drain cam in the tranny wears out and needs to be replaced. The entire tranny does not need replacing. As for the leak, you will have to look for it. The outer tub may be cracked, the fill valve may be leaking, the centerpost seal may be bad, a hose may be leaking. If it's the outer tub, they do have a 10 year warranty on that part, but you pay labor.
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Post# 24613-11/30/2002-07:52 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
TODAY'S POD
MESSAGE: Some of you might remember seeing today's POD dryer at my house, only in Pink. It's cool to see the pair, in whatever color we're gonna call that....is today's pod turquoise?
See the link below....and what machine is that next to Pinky? Oh My God, It's Old Lady Whirlpool (looking so much like she needed a paint job)
This shot was taken earlier this year, well before the convention...
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/PINKY.JPG
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Post# 24614-11/30/2002-10:59 ||| SHAWN (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD
MESSAGE: That dryer looks brand new, never knew Whirlpool made glass windows in dryer's.
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Post# 24615-11/30/2002-13:16 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD (Whirlpool dryers with windows)
MESSAGE: The home ec room at my high school had a Whirlpool washer and dryer with a window. (I was only in the room once; guys weren't allowed to take home ec until my senior year and my schedule had already been set in stone before I found out.) If the door was open, you could see laundry tumbling if you were in that part of the building while changing classes. (Guess who once got in trouble for coming late in class because he went out of his way (and up and down three flights of stairs) just to see if they were using the dryer?)
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Post# 24616-11/30/2002-14:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD
MESSAGE: Umm.. Is that a bullet hole in the window? LOL, At least it looks like it.
I didn't get to see your laundry room at the convention
:-( . The magic bus came to take me away before I had the chance. Cool dryer.
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Post# 24617-11/30/2002-14:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse
MESSAGE: I think the solid tub machines used less water; the inner basket vs. the entire machine filling with water.
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Post# 24618-11/30/2002-14:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD
MESSAGE: It's the Lady Kenmore wannabe. You had to lift the lid and see which program you want to choose and press the corresponding number on the control panel. On the Kenmores, the programs were labelled on the buttons making them much easier to read.
Still I'd take one of those RCA Whirlpools in a heartbeat.
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Post# 24619-11/30/2002-14:58 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
BULLET HOLE!
MESSAGE: That does look like someone shot my dryer! But no, thankfully, it isn't. It's more of a belly button in the glass itself, which, when photographed, appears to be a bullet hole!
The dryer IS in sweet shape, though, and it does feature a porcelain top, so, will never need repainting...The cabinet, however, is only painted, but still in nice shape.
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Post# 24620-11/30/2002-16:14 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD
MESSAGE: Since Manufacturer's have a tendancy to keep around older designs and update them, why didn't they at least keep the nicer ones around like these Whirlpools?
Obviously, someone in the decision making deparment is missing the "special" gene we all seem to have.
-Alex
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Post# 24621-11/30/2002-16:15 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: BULLET HOLE!
MESSAGE: Bob,
Again, nice piece!
-Alex
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Post# 24622-11/30/2002-18:48 ||| jgp57 (dearborn michigan)
SUBJECT:
pod
MESSAGE: what a handsome pair why cant we have this type of glamour in our appliances today. they stand there so stately and proud.thank you for this photo. jgp57
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Post# 24623-12/1/2002-01:08 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD (Whirlpool dryers with windows)
MESSAGE: what years did Whirlpool dryers have windows. 1962-64 sound about right?
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Post# 24624-12/1/2002-08:12 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
PODjustlikemine
MESSAGE: I am very fortunate to have come across and acquired this machine and it is in mint condition.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/vwp?.dir=/More+apps&.src=ph&.dnm=Whirlpool+Imperial+Washer+1959.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst%3f%26.dir=/More%2bapps%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24625-12/1/2002-09:31 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
owner's manual of the month
MESSAGE: The new owner's manual is posted and it floors me that they suggest no more than 6 or 7 pounds of laundry for the Speed Queen. I didn't realize how small those tubs really were! They held about the same as Jason's portable Kenmore.
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Post# 24626-12/1/2002-10:29 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Kenmore control board questions
MESSAGE: I recently got a 70 series kenmore control board and I have some qustions about it.
1. In the temperature control it has "Automatic" as one of the temps...What does that mean, do?
2. On the timer, If you push it in and turn it will do that clickety click thing, but why does it do the same when it is already pulled out?
Thanks in advance!
Best Washes!
-Jamie-
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Post# 24627-12/1/2002-10:46 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore control board questions (Kenmore control board)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie,
The "Automatic" setting for the water temp chooses the wash and rinse temps for you, depending on where you set the timer. Usually, there is "White" "Colors" "Knit" and so on printed next to the minutes of wash time. These words correspond to the water temps, so if you set the water temp knob on "automatic" and the timer to "White" you will get hot water. "Colors" would give you warm water, and so on. The timer knob clicks both pulled in and pushed out because that was before they made them so they couldn't be advanced by accident when in gear, usually by bumping them or something like that. Have fun! Don
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Post# 24628-12/1/2002-10:53 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore control board questions
MESSAGE: Jamie,
when you place the water temperature on automatic, it will fill the machine to the type of load you've selected on the wash cycle.
Note:
When using the normal cycle at the 14 minuet mark, you will see Whites next to it and it will fill with hot water with a cold rinse.
At the 10 minuet mark it should have Colors and that will fill with warm water with a cold rinse.
These are factory recommended wash temperature and time to guide consumers to wash without fading and shrinking of most fabrics. But you can over ride this feature by selecting the water temperature of your choice!
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Post# 24629-12/1/2002-12:35 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT:
Vintage Electric Stove controls
MESSAGE: I have a mid-60's Frigidaire electric slide in range. I don't use it too much, but last night I discovered that the low settings for the two front burners don't work right. Anything under "medium low" is off - cold. The burners are flat ribbon.
I believe all the connections underneath are good, but I will recheck them. Could it also be a problem with the control circuitry under the knobs? Is there something special to look for? Do the low settings typically "wear out" on older units?
The elements seem to be fine, otherwise, and heat fully on high settings, so I don't think it's a defective element.
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Post# 24630-12/1/2002-15:07 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT:
RE: Vintage Electric Stove controls (Similar problem...)
MESSAGE: I've had a similar problem with a 1969 Frigidaire Custom Imperial 40" range. The cooktop is fine; it is the oven that fails to heat properly. I've already replaced the element; it worked the first time I tried the oven after replacing it. Now I can't seem to get the stove above 275F or so. The smaller, non-self-cleaning oven works fine. Could it be the thermostat? I love the stove; I'm glad that my partner didn't let the Home Depot folks talk him into replacing it when he remodeled the kitchen. Any ideas? It would be nice to have both ovens operational- it is a well built, heavy unit. Sorry if this off the washer topic- don't know of any other helpful, friendly place for advice. The typical attitude seems to be to get rid of the old and buy new.
Thanks!
Duane
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Post# 24631-12/1/2002-16:07 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: PODjustlikemine
MESSAGE: I have seen this machine firsthand at Greg's when I was picking up my wringer and dropping a few things off.
She is a beauty!!! I cannot believe that the gold on the control panel is still in mint condition as well as the rest. It is a keeper for sure.
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Post# 24632-12/1/2002-16:10 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Vintage Electric Stove controls
MESSAGE: I have a 60' Double oven Flair that I have not been able to hook up yet but is in wonderfull shape. Let me know if I should be looking for specific problem areas.
Thanks
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Post# 24633-12/1/2002-16:28 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
range repair advice
MESSAGE: I just love the old Frigidaire Flair range, or any classic range really, and have worked on many in my time as a service man. If your surface element is a two wire only element and works on high but does not work below medium, you have a bad infinate switch, which is usually not a big problem to replace. With the flair, it is more challenging than some, due to the complexity of the panel assembly.
If your oven won't heat and you're sure BOTH heating elements are good (bake and broil must both be good for some ranges to work properly), you need a thermostat.
I believe this to be correct advice, but I'd sure like to hear that someone closer to electric ranges than I am today, also thinks it's right, too. Filterflo, does that sound right to you?
Many Frigidaire ranges used Speed Heat, and Heat Minder burners on the front, which are two different animals, altogether..
I don't think the heat minder control is any longer available, and the speed heat switch is now converted to an ordinary 120 volt infinite switch, I do believe, and so, no longer delivers the original surge of 240 to put the speed into the speed heat burner, but so it goes. At least it can be made to deliver heat, at all settings.
BEST OF LUCK
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Post# 24634-12/1/2002-16:53 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: BULLET HOLE!
MESSAGE: Kitchenaid dishwasher gets lots of bullet holes in this link. A Whirlpool dryer also comes into the line of fire.
LINK: http://www.singsingsing.com/has4.html
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Post# 24635-12/1/2002-18:58 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
:-(
MESSAGE: No wringer. :-(
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Post# 24636-12/1/2002-19:06 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: :-( (: - ()
MESSAGE: Mr. Garrison says wringers are bad mmmmkay. Stick with machines that spin (or squeeze) the clothes dry...you won't regret it.....lifting wet clothes up and putting them through the wringer is ENTIRELY too much like WORK. Wringers are BAD, Mkay?
They CAN be fun to look at, but I don't think anyone would actually say they're FUN to use...
Cheer Up,
Santa Clause is comin' to town.....
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Post# 24637-12/1/2002-19:18 ||| zzzzz (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: BULLET HOLE! (The dishwasher...)
MESSAGE: The home I grew up in had the same model of KitchenAid dishwasher (a KDS-14P, if I recall correctly) that got Swiss-cheesed by that group. Sad to see such a workhorse in its day suffer such a murderous fate...
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Post# 24638-12/1/2002-19:29 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Vintage Electric Stove controls
MESSAGE: Sometimes when an element goes out, only half the element will heat, the other half is burned out. That's not the case with this burner, as it gets to full heat ok.
I suppose it's something in the control, and that I'll have to disassemble the front control panel in order to diagnose it.
When I first moved in, this element was burnt out, but lo and behold there was a complete new old stock replacement sitting in a box in the garage. I hardly ever use the stove, and never noticed the simmer problem until last night, when I put a pot of soup stock I was making on it overnight to simmer so it wouldn't stink up the house. In the morning, the pot was cold...
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Post# 24639-12/1/2002-19:29 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: :-( (: - ()
MESSAGE: Thanks I feel better now. I think that it was Mr.Macky that says Mkay. :-)
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Post# 24640-12/1/2002-19:30 ||| Supersport_us (MidSouth)
SUBJECT:
Frigidaire Follies
MESSAGE: I first visited this website last evening and was surprised to find that a clip from the Frigidaire Follies is used in the opening of the NBC program "American Dream".
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Post# 24641-12/1/2002-19:37 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: :-( (: - ()
MESSAGE: I would get an automatic except my mom thinks that they are like twice the size of an wringer, If only I could find and automatic that was small, like the ones GE used to make! That would be fun!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/brooklynrobert/vwp?.dir=/My+Collection!&.src=ph&.dnm=STRUCT~1.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/brooklynrobert/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bCollection!%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24642-12/1/2002-21:29 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
Sears Kenmore / Galaxy low end washer - how old a design?
MESSAGE: The back panel molding looks like something out of the '70s. How long ago were these designed? Is it a Whirlpool?
Have one of these, a low-end Kenmore from 1994, with wash temp and perm press selector. The current low end Sears washer looks the same, but only has the Galaxy brand name, and the only control is a timer.
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Post# 24643-12/1/2002-22:03 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: :-( (: - ()
MESSAGE: You're right! One of those little pulsator disc japanese GE portables would be swell for you. Those spun great too. I serviced many a one of those in the day...mainly removing lint out of the electric water pump, which was kinda whimpy, but I mainly liked the little washer. I wonder where they all went? Wouldn't mind having one of those myself, if for nothing other than the good extraction capabilities...and indeed it does take up only a tiny foot print in the room...
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Post# 24644-12/1/2002-22:19 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD (Whirlpool dryers with windows)
MESSAGE: I have a very tattered copy of the Sept. 1966 edition of Consumer Reports. It's in very bad shape. It's not much long for this world, unfortunately! :-( They reported on both washers and dryers. A footnote, to the table that accompanied the ratings for the dryers, notes that the check-rated RCA Whirlpool Models LPE 992 (electric version) and LPI 992-1 (gas version) has a window in their doors.
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Post# 24645-12/1/2002-22:58 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD (Consumer Reports)
MESSAGE: DUDE!
You might need to get that book copied...be a shame to lose a jewel like that. My 1976 and 1971 Buy Guides got lost when the family moved to a new house, but my 1972 is holding up fairly well, yellowed pages and all. I like how the lab guys went into detail to describe mechanical action of the washers they tested. The modern-day Consumers Union does a lot better job with automobile testing and reporting than they did back in the day, though - glad to see that.
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Post# 24646-12/1/2002-23:14 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sears Kenmore / Galaxy low end washer - how old a design?
MESSAGE: If Im picturing the model youre talking about, it's a design that Ive seen since the mid to late 70s, when it had a more glorious beginning with separate wash/rinse temp controls and 3 water levels instead of two. Here's a testimony to the durability of Whirlmores: when I was in junior high, neighbor friends of mine had a matching Avocado set of this same model. A tornado flattened their house, but when the washer was hooked up at the apartment they relocated to, it ran like it had the day before the twister. The cabinet on the matching dryer, alas, was too badly bashed up to be of use.
In addition to being called Kenmore and Galaxy, it has also at times been badged with the same Capri label found on Sears' low budget appliances.
Did you notice that since about 1986, there has never been another extra capacity version of that design?
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Post# 24647-12/1/2002-23:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore control board questions
MESSAGE: Jamie, if this control board belonged to a direct drive kenmore model 70, then the automatic did something a bit different. Hot water was the wash temp on the heavy soil setting. Then at normal soil setting it switched to warm rinse, as was that on the light soil setting (corresponding wash times were 14, 10, and 6 minutes respectively. This was for the Normal/Cotton Sturdy cycle. For Permanent Press, heavy had hot water. Normal and light soil were warm washes. Respective wash times were 10, 8, & 6 minutes. On the knits/delicates, wash temps was warm. Respective wash times were 8 and 6 minutes. All automatic rinses were cold for all cycles. On the presoak cycle, the wash temp was warm as waws prewash cycle. For older belt drive kenmores like Don wsa talking about, 14 minutes had whites by it and a hot wash. Colors was 10 minutes and warm wash. (On normal cycle/cotton sturdy). On permanent press, whites was 10 minutes at hot water. Colors was 6 minutes at warm. Knits &* delicates were the same, warm washes with 8 or 6 minutes. All auto cycle rinse temps were cold like stated before. Hope this helps. Bob. And beset wishes to you & your mom.
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Post# 24648-12/1/2002-23:30 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT:
RE: range repair advice (Flair repair)
MESSAGE: I can speak from sorry experience that once a heatminder unit goes, it's indeed gone, although a fix can sometimes be as easy as popping the little center piece off and seeing if there is gunk on the sensor. Never underestimate the power of gunk ;-)
Bob, I wish there were repair people out here in the northwest with your attitude. Most of the time I end up getting either laughed at or lectured about how I should just buy new instead of trying to fix stuff. A person with knowledge of, and interest in, vintage appliances could do well in Seattle where our municipal utility (Seattle City Light) marketed electric appliances aggresively from the 30's until the 70's. They had a big glamourous showroom downtown and everything. They also used to have an appliance repair service that was quite reasonable and very accomodating, but they got rid of that a few years back. Nowadays, it's anything goes.
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Post# 24649-12/1/2002-23:53 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: BULLET HOLE!
MESSAGE: Whats with the appliance violence. I think someone or some group has some unresolved issues to deal with.
That was just sick. Shooting a harvest gold Whirlpool dryer. get help.
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Post# 24650-12/2/2002-00:25 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
POD Westinghouse Laundromat Twins
MESSAGE: Ah, such sweet memories. That's the same model as the 1964 Westinghouse twins my grandfather had. I can smell the powdered All and the Niagra spray starch now. His pair was white. He bought compact, stackable units because what was supposed to be a full sized laundry closet on the blueprint when the house was built turned out to be not wide enough for a full sized washer and dryer to sit side by side.
Extremely quiet machine for an American washer, even if it was a front loader. Well, as long as it was washing or rinsing. Drain and spin were both very loud. Both the washer and the dryer made a curious popping or clicking sound when the motor in either was shut off (end of cycle, opening a door, or whatever). It sounded like a toy windup clock or bubble gum being popped.
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Post# 24651-12/2/2002-01:12 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: :-( (: - ( 1959or 60 RCA Whirlpool Imperial washer or dryer)
MESSAGE: When I was little, I vaugely remember this RCA Whirlpool washer with a light up dashboard and those white pointy dials for hot, warm,medium, cold. My mom loved the dryer because it had alot of temerature control...I think it was Hot,Med, Warm,Cool. Anyways, this was a kick ass washer and dryer in our family,but was replaced later by Maytags,Whirlpools were very tricky appliances in those days. Can you find any picures of an RCA Whirlpool Washer/Dryer crica 1958-61?
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Post# 24652-12/2/2002-02:03 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: BULLET HOLE!
MESSAGE: This site is about restoring appliances, not about destroying them. You have posted this link here before and I think that one time was just enough
Louis
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Post# 24653-12/2/2002-10:01 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: BULLET HOLE! (issues)
MESSAGE: Oh there are some issues here alright, LOL, Some postings from some members I don't even read.
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Post# 24654-12/2/2002-11:10 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Kenmore control board questions (clickity clack)
MESSAGE: Sounds you've got a console to a belt driver Jamie, the reason it goes clickity clack when its pulled out is just the nature of the beast, the newer models make it so the dial turns freely (not changing the cycles) when pulled out, the old designs don't so your actually able to advance the timer when the machine is on. Thats just how the old gal works. Does your console look like this one?
Who knows maybe you'll run across the bottom part of the machine and you'll just be able to stick the console on it =)
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/brooklynrobert/vwp?.dir=/My+Collection!&.dnm=mom+kenmore1.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/brooklynrobert/vwp%3f.dir=/My%2bCollection!%26.dnm=THROWI~1.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 24655-12/2/2002-12:11 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT:
RE: range repair advice
MESSAGE: Bob,
Thanks for the advice. This 1969 40" white Frigidaire C. I. does indeed have Speed heat and Heat Minder- both work. I'll have to try the broiler in the larger self-cleaning oven and see if that works. We've just been using the smaller oven on that stove. Even though I love to bake, I don't bake huge quantities unless going to or hosting a dinner party. Even then, the smaller oven on the stove has been fine. If REALLY in a pinch, I could use the 1953 light green Frigidaire 30" in the basement laundry room. Still, it'd would be nice to make that stove in the kitchen FULLY functional. Does anyone know when the Flair was discontinued? Looking at the 1969 manual, it looks like this stove was the TOL for that year.
I've followed your links when posted to some rather cool things. I share your interest in old cars, particularly, late 50's, early 60's Imperials and Lincolns. Gotta brave the snow and hit the gym. E-mail me at Wireman2222@hotmail.com
Thanks!
Duane
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Post# 24656-12/2/2002-15:40 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
MESSAGE:
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Post# 24657-12/2/2002-18:50 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE:
MESSAGE: I concur absolutely.
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Post# 24658-12/2/2002-21:05 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE:
MESSAGE: What is it?
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Post# 24659-12/2/2002-22:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: (speechless)
MESSAGE: Maybe he's just seen a Kenmore 800 and now he's lost for words.
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Post# 24660-12/2/2002-23:22 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE:
MESSAGE: And I am unanimous in that.
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Post# 24661-12/2/2002-23:30 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: (did u move jason?)
MESSAGE: I thought u were in florida??
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Post# 24662-12/2/2002-23:36 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: (Ken 800)
MESSAGE: Well Jason......
John and Cliff came down to vist and brought me lots of goodies. And while they were here I brought John to my secret 9 acre appliance farm. Lots of vintage stoves, gas and electric. Nothing too exciting in the laundry line, EXCEPT a Kenmore 800 set in white and..2 sets of black electronic DD Kenmores which are coming home tomorrow. Supposedly all 4 work. I have yet to find the Black 29in LE dryer for my Black 86 LE Washer though. AAAAKKKKKKK I need a nerve pill.
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Post# 24663-12/2/2002-23:43 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse
MESSAGE: Now what I'va trying to say befo all my words got lost in up in there somewhere iz this............
From the 1965 Tech Talk manual which has been highly disputed by several.....
WCI-65 holds 12 pounds laundry and uses 41.25 gals water, normal cycle, no options.
And from the '79 Tech Talk....
1-18 holds 18# of laundry and uses 49.5 gallons of water.
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PRE-1980 Kenmore SUPER capacity...53 Gallons water
Post 1980 18# tub 43 gallons water.
Y'all do the math, I don't have my glasses on.
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Post# 24664-12/2/2002-23:44 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: (did u move jason?)
MESSAGE: I was there, but my broom carried me to Georgia.
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Post# 24665-12/3/2002-00:33 ||| eheschong (glendale, CA)
SUBJECT:
re:ModernMaid/McGraw Edison built in toaster? (..and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: I bought a house with a Nutone model #221 built in Food Center but none of the appliances or attachments. Do you still have these avaiable? From the look of the other appliances, I seem to have a 50's era kitchen. Thanks for any help. eheschong@earthlink.net
LINK: http://eheschong@earthlink.net
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Post# 24666-12/3/2002-01:04 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse (thanks jason)
MESSAGE: Hmmph, that comment bout the pre 80 post 80 kenmore, now that would that explain why the tub in my 75 whirlpool didn't fit into my 85 whirlpool. I had to take all the bits off the 75 (tub, basket, tranny, spin tube, and all the suspension) to get it to fit.
Whats slightly embarassing is at first i tried using the suspension from the 85 and all the other parts from the 75, but the drain hole in the tub didn't line up with the drain hole in the suspension, then i swapped out that big bottom thing and left the 3 little arms from the 85, wrong again! Couldn't get the console back on, put on the 3 arms from the 75 and its happy as a clam. THe arms on the 75 were longer, go figure! Kind of reminds me of that one song my grandpa called one piece at a time where a guy steals parts from cadillac over the years and gets one funky car =)
I left the same agitator, (super surg with wings (sounds like a tampon) ) and i'll be darned if that thing doesn't fill right up to the agitator cap on extra large =) Talk about your time consuming lessons! Crikey!
~Steven
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Post# 24667-12/3/2002-01:21 ||| eheschong (glendale, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: I am looking for all the accessories for my Nutone Food Center.Do you have any available to sell? Thanks, Liz eheschong@earthlink.net
LINK: http://eheschong@earthlink.net
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Post# 24668-12/3/2002-05:52 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse (Lbs/Gal)
MESSAGE: I did the math. Here's what I came up with.
Machine.........LBS......gals......lbs/gal
WCI-65..........12......41.25.....0.290909091
"1-18"..........18......49.50.....0.363636364
Pre 1980 KM.....12......53.00.....0.226415094
Post 1980 KM....18......43.00.....0.418604651*
Post 1980 KM....16......43.00.....0.372093023
That is going on several assumptions:
1. The Pre 1980 KM capacity was 12 lb.
2. The Post 1890 KM capacity was 18 lb.
(that's stretching it!)
3. The water consumption on the pref. tubs would
not include water absorbed by the load of
laundry.
Looks like the thirstest machine was the Pre 1980 KM.
The most efficient was the Post 1980 KM.
*I doubt a post 1980 KM could handle an 18 lb load
where the 1-18 could. By conservately dropping the
load size on the post 1980 KM to 16 lb, the Gal/Lb
goes from 0.418604651 to 0.372093023
It's like comparing one cell phone company's rates
to another. Virtually impossible; apples & oranges.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 24669-12/3/2002-07:17 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: (OMG!!!!!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: DUDE! When you get them, can you send pics?
You're getting my dream machine!
PUH-LEEZE send pics when you do. LOL
Now I need a nerve pill.
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Post# 24670-12/3/2002-07:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: (Nimbus 2001)
MESSAGE: Now now, we can't have muggles seeing you flying on that thing. The Mistry of Magic would not be happy.
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Post# 24671-12/3/2002-07:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse (Lbs/Gal)
MESSAGE: Apples to oranges is right - impossible to compare washers based on lbs per gallon of water as different washers would handle the exact same load differently. We've talked before about using a sample load in different machines to test performance. An 18 lb. would choke most washers, probably even those machines rated for that much. While many manufacturers touted the number of pounds their washers could handle, others disputed this method and even in their owner's manuals recommended loading clothes loosely, not packed, until the tub was full for best performance. Even in the older, smaller vintage machines, this rule of thumb works best. Scott and I weighed a load going into my WO-65 at exactly nine pounds and the machine handled it perfectly, but nine pounds of jeans would have seriously overloaded it.
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Post# 24672-12/3/2002-09:07 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: I know someone who has one they don't use. My parents used to sell these. I can ask if they can still get parts. what do you need?
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Post# 24673-12/3/2002-09:25 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse (Lbs/Gal)
MESSAGE: Getting clothes wet is alot different than getting them clean. Apples to lambchops, more like...
-ph
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Post# 24674-12/3/2002-09:27 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse (Lbs/Gal)
MESSAGE: I'm not sure the weight is a good capacity measure. I expiremented with weight vs volumes of clothes. Your point of washing jeans is well put. I weighed a "regular" load of clothes when I got my Equator 3600. The load weighed 8.5# but was clearly large in volume. I wonder if the new sizing of wash capacity in volume is a better idea. 3.0ft^ vs 18# etc.?
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Post# 24675-12/3/2002-10:10 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse (Lbs/Gal)
MESSAGE: Post 80 Kenmore was the SUPER capacity tub, not the 12lb tub.
In 80 they made the SUPER capacity tub smaller, brought it down to 18 pounds.
They did have the 12 pound tub and that machine used 38 gallons of water.
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Post# 24676-12/3/2002-10:22 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: (OMG!!!!!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Jason, I am not getting the 800 set. My days of restoring belt drives are over. (ok maybe 2 more) I have the ones I want and if anyone wants a belt drive restored I will gladly do it, for the right price.
But I will send you picts of the electronic ones and place them on the web page.
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Post# 24677-12/3/2002-10:29 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse
MESSAGE: And here we go.........
No one willing to get off their ass to do anything to find out what is right, other than guess, but everyone can jump, shout, scream and hollar when they think something is wrong.
Yes, the type of load you are washing is a great factor in the outcome of how much water is used and how clean the load gets. But being that no one has come up with anything other than hot air, these are the numbers from the books. Right or wrong, here they are.
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Post# 24678-12/3/2002-11:03 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: (OMG!!!!!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Jason, if you want the 800 set I will take a closer look at them and if they are in reasonable shape I'll get them for you, but you will have to pick them up.....soon
I'm running out of room......
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Post# 24679-12/3/2002-11:04 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: (OMG!!!!!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: I wonder which 2...
-ph
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Post# 24680-12/3/2002-11:10 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse (there's a place for us...)
MESSAGE: Fact is, a LARGE load in my 72 LK is a MEDIUM in a 1-18. And 2 pairs of jeans will choke almost any machine except frontloaders.
It's about the MACHINES, not about the LOADS. Capacity fights, load makeup, and fabric-characteristics-when-wet discussions can go to the sandbox.
-ph
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Post# 24681-12/3/2002-11:14 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse (Lbs/Gal)
MESSAGE: I agree; I think it is more volume than weight. But what is the computed volume of a washtub up to the water level and with an agitator? Now there's some tough math! Pass me my glasses...
-ph
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Post# 24682-12/3/2002-12:19 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse (there's a place for us...)
MESSAGE: The sandbox???? But this is about vintage machines..........
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Post# 24683-12/3/2002-12:20 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: (OMG!!!!!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: One is gold and one is yellow.......
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Post# 24684-12/3/2002-13:33 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
The Trouble With Speed Queens
MESSAGE: Hi gang--- Is anyone else having problems downloading the Manual Of The Month? It seems to download and pages 1 and 2 come up, but then I get an 'Internal Error' message and the other 13 pages are blank.
I have no problems downloading the other two manuals. I use an iMac. Can anyone among our group of brainiacs suggest anything?
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Post# 24685-12/3/2002-13:50 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse (there's a place for us...)
MESSAGE: TWO pairs of jeans will choke? Hmmm. Do you maybe mean 20 pairs??
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Post# 24686-12/3/2002-13:55 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse (there's a place for us...)
MESSAGE: Well Glenn, (LOL) I guess that is subjective, depending on what machine one might be talking about. ;-)
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Post# 24687-12/3/2002-13:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Trouble With Speed Queens
MESSAGE: I'm glad you mentioned since I hadn't realized a new manual had been posted, and a nifty one it is! I got right into it with no wait (though I have a cable modem which might give me somewhat of an edge). That notwithstanding, maybe you just caught it at a bad time, and if you try again it will work. Keep us posted!
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Post# 24688-12/3/2002-14:52 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Trouble With Speed Queens
MESSAGE: Scott--tried downloading the SQ manual again; same thing happened. I don't understand why the other two download without a problem. I have a T1 line, so that shouldn't be the trouble. Think I'll go have a good, long sulk!
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Post# 24689-12/3/2002-15:36 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
GOOD LUCK AT THE MACHINE SHOP
MESSAGE: Just now I returned from the machine shop with my Bendix gear box..between the cab ride both ways and the actual job itself, it cost 55 bucks, but now all the threads on my old gear box are like new and reassembly will be a breeze, later tonight when I return from working out - to which I'm running late now...
I have the most excellent photo of the old guy that re-tapped and recovered the busted bolt for me....he must have been at least 75 years old himself....I'll post that later...
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Post# 24690-12/3/2002-18:13 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT:
P.O.D
MESSAGE: I think this was the best washer ever!!!
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Post# 24691-12/3/2002-19:01 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
HORROR OF THE HOLE
MESSAGE: Doesn't matter how nicely your clamping ring bolts down if your tub has a hole in it....which mine now does, at a seam, sadly...
Anyone have experience with mending rubber seams.....i'm leaning towards a super glue job with a silicone finish, unless anyone has a better idea.
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Post# 24692-12/3/2002-19:22 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
HOLE IN ONE..
MESSAGE: Woe is me.
Whoever is sticking pins in the voo doo dolls of my machines, kindly stop it now, please.
I'm thinking, super glue in the crack, and a bicycle tire patch to hold it shut, which I just happen to have here...
we'll see how that goes....later..
ho ho hole.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/HOLE/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24693-12/3/2002-19:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: HORROR OF THE HOLE
MESSAGE: OH NO!!!! Is the hole/split on a seam that will be moving during extraction or near the bottom edge you posted a picture of? Would a bicycle tube repair patch work?
Not to worry, I'm sure a solution will present itself.
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Post# 24694-12/3/2002-19:48 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: HORROR OF THE HOLE
MESSAGE: Bob, what about a real vulcanizing repair? Usually large truck stops have the equipment to fix the inner tubes of truck tires. Might take some searching but I would think it would really hold.
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Post# 24695-12/3/2002-20:07 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
VULCANIZING
MESSAGE: I have a propatch bicycle accessory that came with my Trek bicycle which features vulcanizing solution and patches...
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Post# 24696-12/3/2002-20:37 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: HOLE IN ONE.. (solution)
MESSAGE: how about melting it back together.
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Post# 24697-12/3/2002-21:05 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
VULCANIZED..
MESSAGE: O.K. Vulcanized. Three dot patches in a row along the seam on the outside of the tub (where water pressure will press the tub again the patch against the metal tub holder) and one patch on the inside of the tub, directly over top of the quarter inch crack in the seam....
Now, Judging Amy (in high definition) and then, a water test.
BOB
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Post# 24698-12/3/2002-22:13 ||| jgp57 (dearborn michigan)
SUBJECT:
me
MESSAGE: i think all of you guys should buy be a gift.i just know i would be pleased with each and every one.thank you ever so much love to you all mr greed.
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Post# 24699-12/3/2002-22:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Sing along with Maytag
MESSAGE: Anyone out there have a turntable? :)
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=926971837
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Post# 24700-12/3/2002-22:59 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.D
MESSAGE: they are quite stately aren't they, wonder what all those buttons do?!
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Post# 24701-12/3/2002-23:02 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sing along with Maytag (SING ALONG WITH MAYTAG)
MESSAGE: I'll be glad to get the bidding started....
Bendix is working brillliantly, again. thanks to the vulcanization suggestion earlier, which saved the night for me...thanks so much for that idea...so fortunate for me I happened to have the kit on hand...
photos forth coming.
BOB
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Post# 24702-12/3/2002-23:23 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.D
MESSAGE: On the washer, from left to right --
First bank = wash/rinse temperatures
Hot/Warm
Hot/Cold
Warm/Warm
Warm/Cold
Cold/Cold
Second bank = agitate and spin speeds (set independent of the timer/cycle)
High agitation
Medium agitation
Low agitation
High spin
Low spin
Self-clean filter light
Infinite water level, probably with "hand washable" position at extreme left.
On the dryer --
Temperatures (also incorporates push-to-start)
High
Medium
Low
Extra-low?
Air
Small knob is for drying speed.
I'm sure someone will post corrections if necessary.
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Post# 24703-12/3/2002-23:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: (Ken 800)
MESSAGE: Jason, HOORAYYY!!! CAN'T WAIT TO SEE PICS.
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Post# 24704-12/3/2002-23:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overflow rinse (there's a place for us...)
MESSAGE: Ahem, well, 4 pairs of jeans will fit nicely in the Shredmore, I wouldn't add any additional pairs. And I sheepishly admit the jeans are sized 42 x 30. Any more, and I doubt I would get descent roll over.
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Post# 24705-12/3/2002-23:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.D
MESSAGE: Shawn, I agree, that was THE whirlpool washer model set to own back then. Only feature I desired was an optional 2nd rinse.
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Post# 24706-12/4/2002-00:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
POD 1955 Frigidaire Pulsamatic
MESSAGE: Ahh yes, memories of the 2001 Minneapolis convention. the most astounding washer to me there. My favorite shaped pulsator and what live water action. Thanks to Jetcone & Unimatic for providing those wonderful memories that will last a lifetime.
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Post# 24707-12/4/2002-00:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: P.O.D
MESSAGE: I think it was less typical to have this type of layout at that time on an upper end machine, rather than programs that set everything. The "everything separate" layout seems to be common on later machines of many brands as well; I wonder if market research showed that people prefer this, or if it is less expensive to manufacture (or both).
I'm surprised this particular unit did not have a 2nd rinse for all its feature-richness. That must have gained popularity just a bit later.
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Post# 24708-12/4/2002-00:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: (Ken 800 (Bob was yours an 800 too?))
MESSAGE: Bob, was your family's Sears from around that era, also an 800 model? I forget was it 1970 or 71. I know Jason was 1970.
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Post# 24709-12/4/2002-00:17 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
BENDIX IS BRILLIANT, ONCE AGAIN
MESSAGE: Let's hear it for the Vulcans.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/VULCANIZED/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24710-12/4/2002-00:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sing along with Maytag (SING ALONG WITH MAYTAG)
MESSAGE: That was a silly question on my part, how could I have forgotten all your wonderful musical equipment! I am glad you have your Bendix toploader's tub in good shape again.
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Post# 24711-12/4/2002-00:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: (Ken 800 (Bob was yours an 800 too?))
MESSAGE: Yes, it was bought February 1970 or February 1971.
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Post# 24712-12/4/2002-00:47 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sing along with Maytag (SWISS TURNTABLE)
MESSAGE: Thank you, Scott. I suppose I should thank Spock, too, right, 'cause he was a vulcan...The Bendix thanks you too.
My sweet old Thorens turntable says He's looking forward to playing the Maytag Lp, so we'll see...
Here's a link to a real player song I transferred from an Lp recently with the Thorens.... from an original 1958 RCA New Orthophonic High Fidelity Lp of the Guckenheimer Sour Krauts -- Music for Non-thinkers..
if it will not play for you, update your free real player at real.com . You'll be glad you did.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/JAGER-MARSCH.rm
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Post# 24713-12/4/2002-07:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: (grind-click-clunk... BANG!!!!)
MESSAGE: Bob, remember what happens when the timer reaches 4 minutes on a Kenmore 800? BAAAANNNGG!!!! The solenoid for the bleach dispensor activates, managing to make my 8 year old self jump out of my skin. Even when I knew it was coming, it was a surprise...
Of course, I remember the off-balance switch. It got disabled during the life of the 800.
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Post# 24714-12/4/2002-08:08 ||| radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT:
RE: BENDIX IS BRILLIANT, ONCE AGAIN (Rubber tub?)
MESSAGE: Just curious--what was Bendix's reasoning for a rubber tub, anyway?
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Post# 24715-12/4/2002-08:39 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP
MESSAGE: Good question. Here's my thinking on why they did it...spinning washers at that time needed to be bolted down to the floor due to the lack of internal suspension...the Bendix rubber tub machine does not 'spin' and therefore does not need to be bolted down to the floor....a radical approach, I agree, but that's the only reason I can figure for it. Perhaps someone knows another reason?
All I know is, for 19 years now I've never given mine the first button or zipper - only socks, blankets, sheets, towels and like that are allowed to go in mine...I'm not taking any chances on a foreign object popping my tub...
so my tub split on a seam of natures doing...Fortunately, it was repairable.
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Post# 24716-12/4/2002-10:15 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: BENDIX IS BRILLIANT, ONCE AGAIN
MESSAGE: Awesome pics Bob!
Glad to see the Bendix is back in action!!!!!!!
-Alex
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Post# 24717-12/4/2002-10:16 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP
MESSAGE: Bob, glad to hear patch worked. I am facinated by this machine! Can you relate the dampness of compressed clothes vs the same done in a like vintage washer that spun? Judging by the pix I guessing that the lid had to be down to create seal? Any chance you could record the sounds it makes and post the file? Did it only keep vacuum while pump was running? I guess my question is, if the power failed at the right time would it hold your clothes hostage?
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Post# 24718-12/4/2002-10:47 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP (HOW DRY I AM)
MESSAGE: I'd have to say the extraction properties are similar to that of the Bendix front loading automatic home laundry.....not great by modern standards...about equal to what you might be able to do with a wringer...not dripping wet, but still rather heavy with moisture...
I'm thinking a spin-x or some other extractor is in my not too distant future...although when my Whirlpool duet gets here this coming spring, it'll spin fast enough...
As for a power failure ever causing a 'lockout', - no chance - the bendix control is quite mechanical, and by manually advancing the knob, the operator can open the vacuum break device...which does result in a big swishy sucking sound, indeed...I'll try to make some sound oriented videos soon...
Thanks for your interest....
BOB
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Post# 24719-12/4/2002-14:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP
MESSAGE: We discussed this topic too at the 2001 convention standing around Robert's Bendix rubber tub machine. Main opinion was that it was indeed for people weren't able to accommodate a spinning washer, especially people living in small apartments with wooden floors.
Is this machine 19 years in your posession? You must be very attached to it. I can understand what you went through discovering there was a whole in the tub. Glad you were able to repair!
Louis
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Post# 24720-12/4/2002-14:28 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP (HOW DRY I AM)
MESSAGE: Whirlpool Duets? Oh you heathen!! LOL. Your basement will never be the same again! But seriously, the washer is made by Bauknecht in Germany. They are widely known for their high repair rates. But then again, I guess you will be better able to repair it than the Whirlpool technicians.
Louis
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Post# 24721-12/4/2002-15:09 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP (hettie repairs?)
MESSAGE: Your kidding those things break? WOnder what the sears man is gonna say when he sees 30 washer and dryers in my garage. Glad i got the 5 year warrantee!
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Post# 24722-12/4/2002-15:29 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP (HOW DRY I AM)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob,
Thanks for the pictures! I am finding out what you meant about the water extraction of Bendix machines with my Duomatic. I have a couple of questions. 1. What is the cleaning action of this Bendix like? From the picture of you holding the Purex tablets, it looks like fabrics are constantly underwater during agitation. Is this correct? 2. Does the rubber tub affect clothes turnover during agitation?
Darryl
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Post# 24723-12/4/2002-16:48 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP (hettie repairs?)
MESSAGE: No, I'm not kidding about Bauknecht. I know several people who swear that they will never buy any Bauknecht product ever again, including my brother and sister in law. Their Bauknecht washer had several repairs in the first year. After the warranty was over the repairman had to come over a few times more. Their latest repair was going to cost around $400.- on a machine that had cost $800.-. So this machine was dumped being 6 years old. And I can tell you a lot more stories.
Since this is about modern appliances, if you want to discuss this further, let's do that in the Sandbox. The link will bring you there.
Louis
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/
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Post# 24724-12/4/2002-17:08 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RUBBER TUB WASH ACTION
MESSAGE: Truthfully, the wash action of the bendix is much like that of a wringer washer - in fact, exactly like that of a wringer washer - one of bendix reasons for making this machine, it has come to my attention, is because it uses a simple wringer washer transmission, which does not have to spin the basket of the machine, and is inexpensive to manufacture - thus making the rubber tub machines CHEAP to own.
I prefer to keep the load constantly under the water in just about any machine I use, and that's a matter of loading. The Bendix fills within an inch of the top of the agitator with one drain of my Kenmore washer, and this is how I fill the Bendix - with the discharge from Great Aunt Kenmore.
Indeed, I have been the owner of this brilliant Bendix machine for nearly 20 years...since 1984...
Can you post some photos of your machine, Spiralator?
I'd really like to know how many of the machines still exist in running order...
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Post# 24725-12/4/2002-17:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD - Pulsamatic
MESSAGE: Is this a Pulsamatic washer? The ad says it has a "rapidry" but I thought those spun at 600rpm like a typical top loader.
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Post# 24726-12/4/2002-18:31 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD - Pulsamatic
MESSAGE: Yes, Jason you are correct on both counts: it is a Pulsamatic, and yes it spins at 630. For whatever reason, Frigidaire always prefaced their spin speed with "Rapidry", regardless of the RPM. We think of a rapidry as the 1140 or 1010 spinning machines, but if you've ever looked at literature for 1-18s, it will say "Rapidry 640" (or whatever the speed is, it's somewhere in there).
I suppose they could argue that even that is faster than a lot of machines, the Sears with its 550ish spin, as one example.
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Post# 24727-12/4/2002-19:24 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
GOD TOLD ME
MESSAGE: It is true that in apartments that banned washers because of the vibration and the elaborate installations some automatics had to have, the Econ-o-mat and the Dial-a-matic were dreams come true. And back then, when everyone was used to the wetness of clothes coming out of a wringer, it was believed, and is true to a certain extent, that the action of the sunlight on the water molecules helped bleach them by breaking some of the oxygen-hydrogen bonds and liberating oxygen which bleached like with oxyclean!
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Post# 24728-12/4/2002-20:02 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RepairClinic.Com
MESSAGE: Anyone ever hear of a website called repairclinic.com? I saw it featured on my local area (Hartford, CT) morning news and I thought it looked interesting. Of course, with the ever dreamy "Wally Cleaverish" Logan Byrnes (son of Ed "77 Sunset Strip" Byrnes)as the 5 -7AM anchor, who could concentrate???
Anyway, I thought I would give them a try since the Amana washer is acting up again with that rubbing noise at full spin speed. Only now it is combined with a loud ticking during agitation and it slows noticeably during the spin spray rinse. Their conclusion was pretty interesting, but being a sworn non mechanic - I have no idea if it's correct or not.
Yes, I know this is probably better for the sandbox, but I can't seem to get in today, and I wanted to mention this before I forgot......
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Post# 24729-12/4/2002-20:21 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: RepairClinic.Com (SQ NOISES)
MESSAGE: Still sounds like a nail between the tubs to me...perhaps under one edge of the agitator...could be accountable for both noises....
Have you removed the agitator and visually inspected the tub, using a strong light, and by rubbing your hand over every inch of the surface?
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Post# 24730-12/4/2002-21:01 ||| spiralator60 (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: RUBBER TUB WASH ACTION (I Promise, I Will!)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Bob. It probably won't be until during the holidays that I will be able to post any photos, as work has kept me unexpectedly busy the past few months. Just wanted to let you and everyone else know.
Darryl
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Post# 24731-12/4/2002-21:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: (grind-click-clunk... BANG!!!!)
MESSAGE: Well, I didn't jump out of my skin, but sometimes it still caught me by surprise when it droned for an extra long time opening up. Same way with the FS dispenser sometimes. As for the OOB, our switch got "rust challenged" due to me doing a few too many non-neutral drains. Toward the end of its tennure at our house, before it moved on to a friend's house, it would sometimes stick in the buzzer position, even after pulling and pushing in the timer to "reset". Solution, bang on the side of the machine.
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Post# 24732-12/4/2002-21:45 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
All these appliances!!!!
MESSAGE: Hello everyone
I have updated the web site to include the following:
Where do day comes from???
1989 Kenmore Limited Edition
and if you click on Favorite Things you will see 2 picts of the windowed 2002 Kitchen Aid Superba Dryer
LINK: http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/u/dumontj/
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Post# 24733-12/4/2002-21:52 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Washer Memories (OMG! My neighbor had a Fridgidaire just like today's POD!)
MESSAGE: As I mentioned in my original post, I was really fascinataed by this machine. It had no safety switch so you got to see it fill, pulsate and spin if the lid was open. I was very good friends with their son so I was able to spend a lot of time in their kitchen. I was probably one of the few kids on the block who lived for rainy summer days. (There was a coin operated laundry around the corner. On rainy days there used to be a line for the dryers!)
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Post# 24734-12/4/2002-22:04 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: All these appliances!!!!
MESSAGE: Hi Sweetie, I did not know KA was still offering the window door dryer. That's great! I just wish Whirlpool would put a window on a 27" dryer, so I could buy the door as a part and put it on the Sears. Enjoyed your new pictures, looks like your new place is quite nice!
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Post# 24735-12/4/2002-22:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: (Smack my 800 up)
MESSAGE: Ah yes, the good ol' SMACK! in the side when it won't spin. When our Kenmore 800 was dying, I too had to give her a good slap in the side to get her to spin. Hey, if Fonzie can do it, so can I.
"whiiiiiiiiiiiiiine-SMACK!-grind-click-clunk-zzzzzzz........" Rapidry 550 WOOHOO!
Sadly, she stopped responding to any slaps, pleading, begging, temper tantrums, etc... If my mom would've had it repaired, it would've been a stuck wigwag but what does she do. Send my best friend to the Krusher and buys a BOL Whirlpool. YUCK! Sure, it had a surgilator and a handy book rack on the back of the washer. I learned to accept it but I could not mistake its quiet and sweet operation for that whiny old Kenmore 800 of days gone by. She could've at least kept the Roto Swirl :-(
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Post# 24736-12/4/2002-22:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP (hettie repairs?)
MESSAGE: notafixer, I gotta ask, why 30 washer & dryers in your garage? All HE3? Are you taking in laundry???
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Post# 24737-12/4/2002-22:44 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT:
RE: RepairClinic.Com
MESSAGE: Sorry for responding to this here and not in the sandbox. I don't even know the link to the sandbox. I use RepairClinic.com RELIGIOUSLY!!! Their prices are excellent. The part you need is shipped within a week, even with ground shipping. I have been using it for over a year now. Their customer service is EXCELLENT. I once had to call there to inquire about a part and they were VERY friendly, and quickly got me an answer..Actually, on the vintage side of the coin, I have looked through RepairClinic for older parts, which surprisingly, they do have plenty of..They have many old parts for my Whirlpool, as well as old parts for Maytag.As far as Frigidaire, I was looking for a part for one of my friends for His 60's Rapidry, and they have VERY little but they do have some. So I must advertise. If you need a part for vintage or modern, go the RepairClinic first, they may just have what you are looking for and relatively cheap as well :) :) :)
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Post# 24738-12/5/2002-00:16 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHY A RUBBER TUB, AND SUCTION PUMP (garage full)
MESSAGE: neh just a bunch us used appliances from the auction house, all top loaders, right now most of em are maytags and about 4 dd kenmores. INteresting i think i have maytags first short stroke machine, it looks like the regular maytag but its only one speed, same blue fin agi, but half the agitation stroke. There is a gentle cycle but all that does is intermittent fast agitation. Unbelievable!
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Post# 24739-12/5/2002-05:22 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: RepairClinic.Com (SQ NOISES)
MESSAGE: Hey, Bob. Actually, back in September when the local Maytag expert was here to "repair" the machine, he had the entire machine apart, so even if there was a nail, it would have come out when the agitator was removed. But then again, nothing would surprise me........
I still think part of the problem is that while a washer is a washer, most repair people cannot figure out an Amana because they have seen so few of them. I am just frustrated because three different repair people came to three different conclusions and now repairclinic.com makes four. Geez, you would think this is a fancy European sports car of something.....
Oh well, time to go get ready for the snow.
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Post# 24740-12/5/2002-05:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: (Smack my 800 up)
MESSAGE: Another trick - the one my mother used was to lift the lid slightly and let it drop - then the machine would move along.
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Post# 24741-12/5/2002-05:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: RepairClinic.Com (SQ NOISES)
MESSAGE: I forgot to tell you the conclusion. The "reapir guru" wrote back that it sounds like a "bad main tub seal leak that is damaging the main tub bearing along with a bad drive belt". Now if I could only translate that into English..........
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Post# 24742-12/5/2002-07:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: BENDIX IS BRILLIANT, ONCE AGAIN
MESSAGE: Excellent repair job - glad it worked so well for you, I can imagine how happy you were to have it all mended and running again! Thanks for all the pictures too!
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Post# 24743-12/5/2002-07:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: All these appliances!!!!
MESSAGE: Wow Jason - you have plenty to keep you busy now, will you keep all of these when they are done? Congrats on your finds!
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Post# 24744-12/5/2002-08:48 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
SOMEONE BLEW MY LIGHT OUT, indeed
MESSAGE: Someone needs to punch your CANCEL/DRAIN button on that website.
Creating a link to a page that takes you to a place where you get insulted is IGNUNT... mmmmkay....
What kind of adolescent humor is that? Not funny, I assure you. I certainly look forward to meeting you in person some day, my friend. I've been buddies with some of the folks on this list since you were 5 years old.....I WILL be around, and you'll recognize my face from the lovely photos.....
Do not waste folks time with dead end links that make fun of the reader.....totally ignunt.
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Post# 24745-12/5/2002-09:45 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: All these appliances!!!!
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg. The Dishwashers will be sold,except Peter's Frigidaire Spray Tube. The 1-18's that are now in working order go back to Peter and the rest are staying.
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Post# 24746-12/5/2002-09:46 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: SOMEONE BLEW MY LIGHT OUT, indeed
MESSAGE: I'm so glad you liked the site Bob.
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Post# 24747-12/5/2002-10:06 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: RUBBER TUB WASH ACTION (poltegeist washing)
MESSAGE: Yes, having the clothes levitating out over the water gives TERRIBLE washing results!
-ph
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Post# 24748-12/5/2002-11:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: SOMEONE BLEW MY LIGHT OUT, indeed (confused)
MESSAGE: umm... What web page are your talking about?
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Post# 24749-12/5/2002-13:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: SOMEONE BLEW MY LIGHT OUT, indeed (confused)
MESSAGE: I do believe that he refers to the pidgin english copy on this here webpage by HQOTS. Maybe it be ignunt, it may be Miss Shirley Q. Liquor honey, but it don't be offensive, so y'all chill or take it to the sandbox. We gots some old washing machines to talk about!
-ph
LINK: http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/u/dumontj/appliances.html
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Post# 24750-12/5/2002-13:44 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
A little non-classic advice please =)
MESSAGE: Hi all,
I fixed up a mid 70's kenmore electric dryer and replaced the start switch with the same year and somewhat same model GAS kenmore, im quite afraid to plug the thing in. Do i have good reason to be or are the switches the same for both gas and electric models (current stepped down to 110 on the 220 models) sorry i don't mean to post this here, but i should ask the real pros otherwise i might not ever post here again if ya know what i mean (bzzzzzt, ahhhhhhhhhhhh, splat) by the way could i really kill myself if something was amiss and i plugged er in?
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Post# 24751-12/5/2002-14:46 ||| Ragnar67 (minnesota)
SUBJECT:
maytag gas range
MESSAGE: I am trying to find out how old my maytage Dutch oven gas range modle M 6140 GA is And if ther are any web sights out ther
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Post# 24752-12/5/2002-15:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: A little non-classic advice please =)
MESSAGE: Didn't the advice that you got on That Home Site work? I thought we were a hobby/fun site, not an appliance repair business site...
-ph
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/appl/msg1217172527931.html?2
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Post# 24753-12/5/2002-15:58 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT:
RE: A little non-classic advice please =) (I thought that 70's WERE cosidered "
classic"
here?!)
MESSAGE: It seems that I've seen many other posts about 70's and 80's washers and dryers here with no complaints. Who determines just what IS classic. This is a great resource for folks; I do realize that there are bandwidth/storage restrictions. It is great that you can provide links to helpful repair sites- isn't that one of the purposes here? In the good ol' USA, anything more than a few years old is considered ancient; it makes it difficult to find info. Please continue to point folks in the right direction!
Thanks!
Duane
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Post# 24754-12/5/2002-16:08 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Philco Wringer
MESSAGE: Have fun!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2078641539&category=20714
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Post# 24755-12/5/2002-17:38 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: A little non-classic advice please =)
MESSAGE: yeah peter i sure did, i just wanted to check with you guys, man you can can be brutal, whats wrong with you people! People getting mad about websites i mean god! I'll just go fry my brains out thanks for the advice!
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Post# 24756-12/5/2002-18:13 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: A little non-classic advice please =) (Sorry Peter)
MESSAGE: Sorry peter,
I shouldn't have lashed out like that, i was just wanting a little coaching from people that i look up to. But on a side note and i promise not to ever bring this up again here, I think some of the more "classic" members here need to realize that to someone in their 20's a childhood machine IS an 85 belt driven whirlpool, and i don't think its cool that we get blasted for appreciating machines that bring back fond memories to us ya know?
Ok so I ask questions about newer machines because I'm trying to be a young John Lefelter but being miffed at peoples personalities (jason vs bob) and posts like mine i just don't see why we need to waste time and emotion getting all riled up against eachother, i mean we all have a common interest here.
Ok im done, I'll get back on my soap box in another two years =)
Thanks for listening!
~Steven
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Post# 24757-12/5/2002-18:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
As Jackie DeShannon would sing
MESSAGE: What this website needs now is love sweet love
It's the only thing that there's just too little of.
This is heartbreaking. The only group of people that love old appliances. The only site for it and some of the people within this community fight amongst themselves. What about those poor souls out there who were once like yourselves thought they were the ONLY ONES that liked appliances. Then when they find this website, they see these people arguing or snapping at someone. It was just serve to scare them away. Had I found this message board in the state it is today, I would've felt betrayed by the only group of people I know that share the same interests as me.
I'm not against anyone here and I sure hope no one's against me here. I just miss the classic Classic Appliances where everyone talked about old machines and had fun. I learned alot about my obsession and made some really good friends in those days. Bring'em back.
Sorry for the rant but I just had to say what I was feeling.
NOW.... as PeterH suggested. Old washing machines.
Although this is debateable. I own a 1977 Lady Kenmore portable washer. They don't make'em like that anymore so I consider her a classic. Maybe not vintage or very desirable, just unique and cool, and it's a belt drive Kenmore, just the way I like it.
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Post# 24758-12/5/2002-20:07 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
MONITOR WRINGER
MESSAGE: I'm working on the little Monitor wringer washer tonight...I have it all in pieces, and have had the motor open and lubed earlier this evening. All rubber is in the revitalization process currently (coated with WD-40) and the pulsator plate has been removed for cleaning and greasing of the drive shaft bearings...it's all going along swimingly, and I expect the little fellow to be up and doing laundry tomorrow.
Jamie - this is the only little washer at my house we didn't get to run at the convention - and wait until you see the model emblem - it's a young man, running very fast, in big pants....
photos tomorrow.
HAPPY HAPPY HO HO HO
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Post# 24759-12/5/2002-20:23 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (COOL)
MESSAGE: Oh I wish I had the chance to see your laundry room. Sheesh. Oh well, maybe next time.
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Post# 24760-12/5/2002-20:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: Hey, I resemble that!
Sears store in New Orleans East, 1977. A raving 6 year old breaks free from his mother's grip and begins to run at full speed. He's not running to the toys, nor the stereos. He's headed full steam ahead for the appliance section and he's aiming for that new Lady Kenmore with the dual-action agitator. He stops just short of running into the washing machine. He flips open the lid and there it is! His jaw drops in awe as he sees the newest thing in appliance technology (apparently he hasn't seen the Frigidaire yet), and he exclaims with a voice loud enough to catch the attention of all the people including his mother (who know exactly where her son is), "THIS IS THE WASHER OF THE FUTURE!". Ironically, that prophecy came true even for the Frigidaires.
Dramatic, ain't I?
And that's how that young man running in big pants got on your Monitor washer.
HAPPY HAPPY JOY JOY
:-)
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Post# 24761-12/5/2002-20:34 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT:
General Hello
MESSAGE: Hello everybody! It's been ages since I posted, and a lot has happened...there's a long, wordy updated "bio" in my profile. I'd like any leads anyone has on gas cooktops, preferably in an "intense" color like pink or aqua/turquoise. It's been a difficult autumn and I need to treat myself...all the best to each of you for a Happy Holiday Season, free of oversudsing and unbalanced spin cycles....:)
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Post# 24762-12/5/2002-21:19 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Philco Wringer
MESSAGE: Jamie, that washer is about 25 minutes from my house. Want me to pick it up for ya (lol)
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Post# 24763-12/6/2002-00:14 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: Whoa, that was me walking past the washer section in 77 at 10 yr. old. I was totally inthralled with the portable kennys, and thought it was made just for little people. I remember looking at the back at the hoses.
They used to have a couple of machines that were "live" demos. I remember hearing a harvest gold full size going filling and then agitating. Ah the good old day. I don't think they do that anymore. Frankly, you'd be lucky to find a sales person who could remember that.
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Post# 24764-12/6/2002-00:15 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: All these appliances!!!!
MESSAGE: Thank You Scott. KA does not offer the window door anymore. I ordered all the parts to make the door. Next is trying to figure out how to put a window in the 27in dryer. This should be interesting.
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Post# 24765-12/6/2002-00:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: A little non-classic advice please =) (Sorry Peter)
MESSAGE: Steven, right on, because you are the next generation that will restore classic appliances from the 70s & 80s. I don't feel you were out of line at all. Bob
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Post# 24766-12/6/2002-00:23 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: As Jackie DeShannon would sing
MESSAGE: Well stated Jason!!!
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Post# 24767-12/6/2002-00:56 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: A little non-classic advice please =) (Sorry Peter)
MESSAGE: I rather agree. Words like "Classic" or "Vintage" are quite ambiguous, especially in todays usage. I am amazed how often you see the word vintage on E-bay - used as if it refers to something from like a time before 1960 and is of something valuable. In fact it is a quantitative word rather than qualitative. You must specify when using it. In my opinion, the mere abuse of the word automatically discounts the value of the object attempting to be discribed, or at least the person doing the describing.
As far as the group here, we are a small group but its so unique, and the site so well put together. And yes we all have different interests, but to be unappreciative of others interests reflects negatively on the unapprecative person and their interests. i know I will never have the knowledge of how to rebuild a Bendix or ABC of any age. Or the interest for that matter. Thanks to this groups, however, I have learned more about them. I appreciate that there are others that, like myself, also enjoy appliances and what they represent to them. If I ever ran accross a machine that was older than what I look for I would let everyone in the room know of its availabiliy.
I have to go put my clothes in the dryer, See-ya
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Post# 24768-12/6/2002-02:09 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (am I a little people?)
MESSAGE: 1977 Lady Kenmore portable with the "converter" to make it a permanant installation. Holds 6 bath towels, 3 pairs of pants and shirts, or a double-size set of sheets (and that's full). Spins at 850 rpm. You should see it go! In fact, you will soon.
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst?&.dir=/pictures/Lady+Kenmore+portable&.src=bc&.view=t&.begin=1&.order=&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst%3f%26.dir=/pictures/Lady%2bKenmore%2bportable%26.src=bc%26.view=t
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Post# 24769-12/6/2002-02:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: As Jackie DeShannon would sing (thank you)
MESSAGE: My relationship with Classic Apps was starting to hang by a thread again so I had to say something. I have no plans on leaving.
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Post# 24770-12/6/2002-02:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment
MESSAGE: Just finished reading the 1953 Speed Queen Manual (Some new Ikea closets kept me busy). This is one of my favourite machines. And Greg (gansky) has a set (albeit a 1954 I believe). A thing of beauty..! I love the Art Deco styling of this machine. Thank you Robert for the OM of the month. What a wonderful addition to this site. And Greg, I hope to see them sometime!
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Collection+Photos&.dnm=South+Room+4.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 24771-12/6/2002-02:38 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment (1954 Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: Does that model also have the solenoid like the 60s models (like the one at the convention). I have lots of video of that one with all the noises. The pump going "slurrrrp... slurrrp.... slurrrrp." and the solenoid going "THUMP!"
FUN!
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Post# 24772-12/6/2002-02:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: Did ya get'em yet? I got two almost full laundry baskets waiting to be Jet Cleaned.
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Post# 24773-12/6/2002-05:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: No, that was me in Sears or just about any other department store that sold appliances in 1962, 1963, etc.....
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Post# 24774-12/6/2002-07:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment
MESSAGE: You will see them!! They are truly beautiful machines, but I think you will be horrified at how much water the washer uses for such a small load - it even shocked Robert if that gives you any idea!
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Post# 24775-12/6/2002-07:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment (1954 Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: The '54 is nearly identical mechanically to the early 60's model at John's - solenoids the size of your fist, snapping at the changing of the cycles!
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Post# 24776-12/6/2002-07:18 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: Jason, I am impatiently awaiting the arrival of the 1-18 set. They were picked up 10 days ago by Craters & Freighters, so I expect to see them around Tues or Wed of next week. Spending this weekend running a 220 line for the dryer. I, too, am poised and ready to wash ... will call you when I get them so you can experience alittle "jet action". You'll be avocado with envy.
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Post# 24777-12/6/2002-07:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: Awesome! I can't wait to see and use the machines.
Another Land Of Rust washin coming soon.
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Post# 24778-12/6/2002-08:05 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
POD
MESSAGE: I never heard of Hamilton, are they made under another name?? Is this another "AMC" type brand?? Are these from the mid or late sixties?
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Post# 24779-12/6/2002-09:44 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (POD)
MESSAGE: It's a Norge
Peter
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Post# 24780-12/6/2002-09:45 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (POD)
MESSAGE: It's a Norge
Peter
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Post# 24781-12/6/2002-09:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (POD)
MESSAGE: I was gonna guess Beam/Hotpoint/Whatever? It looks like a solid tub. I guess those are one of the really rare machines.
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Post# 24782-12/6/2002-10:34 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
Classic Appliances Jr.com
MESSAGE: Maybe its time to make a classicappliancesjr.com so that the classic guys can have their space and us youngsters can have ours? I'd be willing to maintain it.
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Post# 24783-12/6/2002-10:38 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: A little non-classic advice please =) (so true)
MESSAGE: Amen, and I really think we owe Robert Seger alot for putting this site together. Where is that boy anyway?
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Post# 24784-12/6/2002-10:40 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (the little lady)
MESSAGE: Say jason you mean the portable spins faster than the regular sized ones? Thats so cool!
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Post# 24785-12/6/2002-11:13 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (OLD FLATUIENCE)
MESSAGE: A special group for the young people? Now I really feel like an old fart.
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Post# 24786-12/6/2002-11:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: All these appliances!!!!
MESSAGE: You're welcome Jason! I always enjoy browsing your site. If you ever do figure out a window scenario for the 27 in dryer, do let me know! :-)
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Post# 24787-12/6/2002-11:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: As Jackie DeShannon would sing (thank you)
MESSAGE: Jason, I'm glad you said what you felt, and I am glad you are staying. You contribute so much to this club and interject such a sense of fun and wonder into everything you do, your presence here (and of all our diverse members!) is truly a wonderful thing. We each inidividually are what help to make this a great club.
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Post# 24788-12/6/2002-11:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, this Speed Queen pair is truly a royal site to behold. The beauty, quality and craftsmanship is really something to see. Greg did tell us what the pair would cost in today's dollars; we forget the figure, but it was quite high.
It was fun to see the closely corresponding manual, and we too have thoroughly enjoyed this recent additional feature of the club.
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Post# 24789-12/6/2002-12:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: and me, probably any one of us! My favorite part was always the live demonstration washers and dishwashers, esp. the roto-rack Sears d/w.
Wards was fun too; they always kept the TOL washer running, and a see-through dishwasher, and they did things like having flashing colored light bulbs plugged into the range outlets (back when ranges had outlets!). And of course, the little colored streamers showing air blowing out of the air conditioners. In the vacuum department, a vacuum was used to make a stuffed seal appear to be balancing a beach ball on his nose. Does anyone else remember that one? :)
Oh! And remember the refrigerators and freezers would often have plastic toy food in them!
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Post# 24790-12/6/2002-12:04 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
OLD AGE
MESSAGE: I agree, we should have a group for folks who wish to live to be old, and know that today, they're young, like myself, at 40 - at 40, I still feel YOUNG, Considering one of my goals is to live to be 120 years old....
Some young folks today (say, up to 25 or so) think, THAT'S ALL THERE IS, and have no RESPECT for older folks, and may well think that 40 is old.....Oh My Gootness...
I'm a HUGE Shirley Q fan for WELL over a year now, and all I can say is, at least her brand of ignunce is funny. The kind of ignunce we see here at our site, which is now appearing to be a 'young people need to be separated from the old people' thing is TOTALLY IGNUNT.
Now get over it, and have some damn respect for your elders. Do you know that Santa is coming to town - You don't want to be on the naughty list when he does, do you...
Can't we all just get along here????
Now - who wants to see photos of my exerent cool monitor wringer? There's no age limit, or height requirement for viewing....all someone here has to do is ax me to see it, as if interested.....I shall then generate lovely photos....in the moment...
My point, and I sometimes do have one, is that young people today need to broaden their minds more than they think they do, and realize that folks are living older and older in this day and age.....I know a guy (with a new whirlpool duet) who's 41 and just had his first child....and in my mind...that's more like how it should be, as opposed to Shirley Q. Liquor, and her 19 chirrens....mmmkay?
Now - who wants to see a load turning over as if in a front loader, but in a SQUARE tub, and activated by a pulsator plate? It's cool, and makes some exerent slurping sounds too...
ANYONE could own a machine like this...I purchased it at auction, for 20 bucks, ugly, and dead. It's late 40's to early fifties (at the latest), and was a simple, and fun rebuild. As I say anyone COULD do it - there's no age limit - but you have to be really special to actually DO IT.
By the way - it's not the age - it's the condition, that counts.
; - )
PEACE & LOVE
BOB
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Post# 24791-12/6/2002-12:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: Jason, will you be doing any laundry this evening to "Tide" you over 'til the washin? Have you thought about your music selections? :)
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Post# 24792-12/6/2002-12:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Greg, Hamilton started out as a clothes dryer company in the 40s, and continued on to the mid 70s. They left the washer production to Norge, though toward the very end that may have changed to Franklin or some such thing. To my knowledge they never expanded their line beyond laundry equipment.
They were advertised a lot in the 1950s, and I think many were purchased to accompany wringer washers, then kept when the person switched to automatic. I have only once ever seen a Hamilton washer at a sale.
It's possible you may have seen one or more of the dryers over time and never even realized it. If you ever recall a dryer with a smallish rectangular window in the door, that was a Hamilton. Early models had no control panel and the dials on the front, later ones looked like a more modern dryer like the one in the POD, but they always had a window.
You still see quite a few of them at our estate sales today, still hooked up and running. They are extremely quiet, and do a very nice job of drying.
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Post# 24793-12/6/2002-12:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com
MESSAGE: Well Steven I of course can't speak for the entire group singlehandedly, but personally I prefer the all in one concept. I like having friends of all ages and types. Everyone has a unique and interesting perspective to offer.
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Post# 24794-12/6/2002-12:41 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: Perhaps I'm mistaken, but I though notafixer was thinking of appliance age, rather than collector age. Anyway, I thought anything 1978 or earlier was OK for this place. And who hasn't needed some help with a rebuild or repair from time to time? Tempest in a teapot?
Let's not let the occasional overbearing/overcontrolling post throw cold water on the enjoyment. Sometimes people momentarily step over the line into the area of too much control, as well as too much freedom, and that's what makes the world such an amusing place.
We might want to consider a sliding window for what to consider "classic", or "vintage" or "antique" or whatever term one wants to use to describe appliances suitable for discussion here. Maybe anything 24 years or more old? That would make 1978 and earlier ok this year. Next year, anything 1979 or earlier. And so on and so forth. And let's not be too rigid, after all, as Jason says, we all love our old appliances and a few years either way isn't going to be the end of the world.
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Post# 24795-12/6/2002-12:47 ||| Chrisfa1 (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT:
1936 GE Refrigerator Problem
MESSAGE: Hello!
I bought an old GE Flat Top that was built in about 1936. Some guy had been storing it in his garage for many years. But, he had not been running it. I bought it from him for 15 bucks.
Anyway, I brought it home and put a new power cord on it and replaced the other decaying wires. Turned it on and it runs.
But, how long should it take to get to optimum temperature inside? It's got "cool" in there. And the refrigerant tubes and freezer compartment got really cold and frosty. But, then, a few hours later, it wasn't so frosty. And it seems to run non-stop all day. IS this normal?
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Post# 24796-12/6/2002-12:58 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: yep i was thinking appliance age, sorry should have been more specific, i do love each and everyones contribution but i don't want to get busted for talking about whats classic to me or for asking for help. Maybe we can add another applianceville discussion group for *newer* appliances?
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Post# 24797-12/6/2002-12:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (the little lady)
MESSAGE: OH yes it does! It sounds just like a big Kenmore. The wigwag goes "GRRRRRIND-CLICK-CLUNK" and that little tub hauls. It gets the clothes dryer than a regular 550 rpm Kenmore. The early portables had the same 12lb tub as the big Kenmores and those ran at 550.
Truth be known, I'd rather that because it had more capacity. I can always spin the clothes out in my new Kenmore front loader.
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Post# 24798-12/6/2002-13:00 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Nahhh)
MESSAGE: Let's keep it on the same website. I think that any machine that isn't in production anymore should be considered "classic". For instance, a 20 year old can say he grew up with a 1982 GE Filter Flo. Yes, it's the 80s but GE doesn't make'em anymore. Therefore: "classic". I would say "Vintage" would be like a Frigidaire Unimatic. An uncommon washer at best. Of course I consider a Kenmore 800 as "vintage" but only because of sentimental reason.
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Post# 24799-12/6/2002-13:02 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: I caught the very tail end of those days. I remember seeing the DAA in action. I remember BEGGING my mom to get a DAA, a dishwasher with the window, and a portable Kenmore. I must have been blind because those were the Kenmore 800 days. I guess I didn't know what I had until it was gone.
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Post# 24800-12/6/2002-13:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: OLD AGE (Bring it on!)
MESSAGE: Let's see that Monitor washer in action.
Bob, as one of the members here. I look up to you. You have the coolest stuff. Well, so does Robert Seeger and some other collectors, don't get me wrong. But you also collect vintage electronics and RECORD PLAYERS! I admire that! The difference between my vintage hi-fi and your vintage hi-fi is that your stuff works LOL> Well. my stuff kinda works but I need to get off my butt and start restoring those things.
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Post# 24801-12/6/2002-13:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: Hmmm... Actually, my washing machine days has been changed to Sunday because I usually go to band practice. I play drums. But today, since I'm home sick with the flu, I think a good ol' fashioned wash-in with pizza is in order.
The playlist is a huge Winamp playlist called "Kenmore 800 - The Soundtrack". Features such pop celebrities as Tom Jones, Dionne Warwick, Sonny & Cher, The Turtles, The Byrds... Lots of Burt Bacharach songs to name a few.
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Post# 24802-12/6/2002-13:16 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Nahhh)
MESSAGE: It's funny when a person stops to think Jason...I realize that none of the washer companies are using their original tried and true designs anymore, with the possible exception of Maytag using Norge, but even that isn't called Norge and doesn't look anything like the Norge we remember. (Do the Maytag Norges have the same loud noises, neutral drain and wide arc of the older machines?)
It's amazing the machines that I grew up knowing as your typical everyday machine (the Filterflo, Frigidaire, Maytag, Sears etc) that no longer exist in the form we're accustomed. Or, for that matter, that those typical everyday machines are now upwards of a quarter century old and aren't that typical anymore, and someone my age will think "I *can't possibly* be that old!!" and then you realize just how quickly time marches on, underscoring the importance of enjoying every day one is given, and keeping alive the memory of those old "friends".
Then I think of Jamie, who has lived his *entire life* in a post jet action, post belt drive, post helical drive, post colored appliance world, and his favorite machine is one that ceased production more than a decade before his birth, and has interest in wringer washers, which were already very rare even when I was growing up. Diversity is truly a wonderful thing!
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Post# 24803-12/6/2002-13:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: I know what you mean there! Thankfully, so many of us have been able to find a piece of those memories again, and with the longevity of Sears washers and the quality materials they used then, I just know your 800 is right around the corner!
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Post# 24804-12/6/2002-13:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: Well the washin and music part sounds great, but I'm sorry to hear you're feeling ill. Hope you'll be better soon! I had it last week.
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Post# 24805-12/6/2002-13:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Norgetag)
MESSAGE: The new Norgetags don't make the same noise as the classic Norge. It just hums but it has a long agitation stroke. It also spin drains. If I buy a new top loader, that's what I would get.
My friend's dying Magic Chef is more of the classic Norge. When it agitates it goes "uuUUUuuuUUUUuuuUUUUUuuuuUUUUuu...." like Robert's Norge. This one also spin-drains. So at least a classic sound is there. Unfortunately the Land Of Rust is taking its toll on that poor machine. I need to go videotape it before it's too late.
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Post# 24806-12/6/2002-13:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Nahhh)
MESSAGE: I remember seeing the DD Kenmores when they first came out in the 80s. I remember saying "Well, that's it. The classics are gone. I'll never get my old Kenmore 800 back."
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Post# 24807-12/6/2002-13:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Nahhh)
MESSAGE: Well, with so many folks having Sears machines from the 50s / 60s in their collections, I will continue to hold out every hope for you to have your 800, even though you can't buy anything like it new in a store. Sears kind of lost me even before the direct drives, because that last batch of generic belt drives they made when the DAA came out just didn't do it for me. They're fine machines, yes, and the DAA was interesting and different, but compared to what had been, they're just very generic in appearance. One exception is the other Jason's belt driven black electronic pushbutton machine.
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Post# 24808-12/6/2002-13:59 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (POD)
MESSAGE: Hi Pete
Although Norge made the first Hamilton washers and did so for many years, I believe this POD model is not a Norge, but actually a Blackstone-built machine. The later models of Hamilton were not Norge machines.
Rich
Interesting note: Hamilton was a dryer manufacturing company and never built their own washing machines. The Hamilton gas dryer was very well known and respected. Hamilton also manufacture dryers for washing machine manufacturers. In fact, the first Frigidaire dryers were Hamilton-built.
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Post# 24809-12/6/2002-14:02 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Nahhh)
MESSAGE: It was funny because when I saw them at first, I didn't realize they had changed the transmission, I thought they had just changed the control panel style and a few other things (I noticed the tub was deeper and narrower, things like that). I didn't know til I got one home and turned it on and thought "what is up with this!"
To be fair, having owned 3 DD machines at various times I have to say I've never had any of the problems with the DD that some folks here have, but still, of course, it's just not quite the same.
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Post# 24810-12/6/2002-14:26 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT:
How expensive were those Hamiltons?! (12/06/02 POD)
MESSAGE: That poor couple with the new baby spent so much on their Hamilton washer and dryer, all they could afford is a living room with the furniture painted on the walls.
Pretty expensive laundry pair, eh? :)
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Post# 24811-12/6/2002-14:35 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Sandbox/Hamper)
MESSAGE: There's already a child forum of this one, called the Applianceville Sandbox or Hamper. It's over on Yahoo, and all sorts of stuff are discussed there, within reason.
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/
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Post# 24812-12/6/2002-15:38 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: Yes, the seal! Loved it! When they weren't looking you could run your hand thru the air stream and make the ball go up and down. Sometimes if they used one of those multi colored blow up beach balls the air flow would catch the seams and make the ball spin.
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Post# 24813-12/6/2002-15:50 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
When is new old enough
MESSAGE: I've been thinking about the discussion of "those of us who have had time to ripen" vs "those who are just starting to bloom" and it hit me. As long as there are companies that make such unique and totally useless items as the new Betty Crocker Ferris Wheeler Cooker, there will always be things to take apart and put back together. (I know, this is not a washer). But really wouldn't all of us like to take apart one of those Japanese "bubble" washer just to see how the heck it worked? Really Love this site!
Tom
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Post# 24814-12/6/2002-16:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com
MESSAGE: No, I don't think so. I think it's important that every generation is represented here so that knowledge and enthousiasm can be passed on to younger generations (as if we are old). Besides that I think a little respect for eachother's preferences in classic or vintage appliances is in place here. We all have our own reasons for liking a certain washer or other appliance, often feeded by the memories of our childhood. Let's keep that in mind.
This site is a home for many people that have thought for years to be the only one to have a thing for appliances. Therefor we should stick together and not divide into several groups.
Louis
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Post# 24815-12/6/2002-16:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (AC streamers)
MESSAGE: I remember the streamers tied to the AC and it was on. I remember on one of my birthdays, my mom tied some balloons and strings to the Wizard window AC and they would flutter in the wind. I thought that was cool as heck. It looked like we were at Sears, or Western Auto to be exact.
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Post# 24816-12/6/2002-16:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (POD - It's A Blackstone)
MESSAGE: You are right Rich - this is a Blackstone made washer.
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Post# 24817-12/6/2002-17:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (POD - It's A Blackstone)
MESSAGE: That's interesting! When did they start having them, rather than Norge?
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Post# 24818-12/6/2002-17:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (AC streamers)
MESSAGE: Fun! Speaking of air conditioners, you often speak of how things rust in your area. Is that because of excess humidity, or because of the salt getting in the air from the ocean? I would think the air conditioners would help with the humidity part.
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Post# 24819-12/6/2002-17:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (The Land Of Rust)
MESSAGE: New Orleans is plagued with high humidity most of the year. Over here, the washing machine and dryer are in the garage or in the older houses in some back room. The stoves and fridges survive but the washers that are kept in the garage or in the laundry room get alot of the heat and humidity. And that's why they rust. Also, when they're discarded and put in a junkyard they're eaten to bits by the rust.
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Post# 24820-12/6/2002-18:26 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (AC streamers)
MESSAGE: We had the same problem in FL. Growing up our house faced the Gulf and the back was on Boca Ciega Bay. I remember that FL Power at one time offered a device that you could connect to w/d and central ac's that was supposed to act as a sacrifical anode and save them. We even moved the central a/c condenser into the garage and suspended it from the rafters (what a monster! early 50's a/c's were not small!) but nothing helped. Alum windows, condensor coils w/d all were eaten alive long before their prime.
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Post# 24821-12/6/2002-19:14 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
MONITOR VIDEO (FOR YOUR VIDEO MONITOR)
MESSAGE: --SEE - the little 'powerhouse' Monitor washer in action...
--- HEAR - soundtrack by Spike Jones, POWERHOUSE..
---- MARVEL - at the delightfully horrible camera work..
----- REMEMBER - you saw it here, first!
PEACE & JOY
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/MONITOR/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24822-12/6/2002-19:34 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR VIDEO (FOR YOUR VIDEO MONITOR) (ROCKS!)
MESSAGE: Dude, that was completely cool.
I didn't know Spike Jones did that song. I know it's on the Bugs Bunny cartoons. What's the name of that song anyway? Powerhouse? I had a cassette tape of the best of Spike Jones that I completely wore out. Now I have to get it on CD.
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Post# 24823-12/6/2002-19:35 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
OUCH! MONITOR NEARLY BROKE MY ARM!
MESSAGE: OW OW OW...OW OW....LIKE A DUMMY - I was reaching into the monitor with it running, to remove clothes from the rinse water for manual wringing and BAM - BAM Jammed my left index finger into the spining pulsator disc which threw my arm forward and hit my forearm against the stainless steel lip of the tub...OW OW OW..OW OW.. THAT'S gonna be a bruise...
I'm O.K. though...wiser for the experience....do not try this at home yourself....OW OW OW...definately no safety devices on this machine....not for use by children under 40....ow ow ow....
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Post# 24824-12/6/2002-19:38 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
SPIKE JONES
MESSAGE: I'm a HUGE Spike Jones collector as well, and have most of his recorded output. I didn't know he did this, either, but I found it at Kazaa....sure enough sounds like late Spike Jones to me...from his Visual Sound Stereo period...
Thanks man. I can share all the Spike I've got with you via the internet now....ain't life grand?
ow ow ow..
BOB
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Post# 24825-12/6/2002-20:04 ||| zzzzz (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR VIDEO (FOR YOUR VIDEO MONITOR) (Powerhouse originally a Raymond Scott recording
Powerhouse"
originally performed by Raymond Scott)
MESSAGE: Actually, "Powerhouse" was written and originally performed by Raymond Scott, recorded in 1937. Carl Stalling, musical director for the treasure trove of vintage Warner Brothers Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies cartoons, was so enamored of Raymond Scott's themes that he adapted them to cartoon-soundtrack duty, with Scott's blessing, of course. Raymond Scott performances also made their way onto a handful of second-season Ren and Stimpy episodes.
The link below leads to the Amazon.com listing for a Raymond Scott compilation released in 1992. It's a highly-recommended disc (I have one), with excellent liner notes to boot.
BTW, the Spike Lee adaptation seems to work as the Monitor Washer Theme.
LINK: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00001R3H7/qid=1039225603/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_1/002-0163789-7653630
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Post# 24826-12/6/2002-20:29 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
SPIKE LEE?
MESSAGE: No. Spike JONES, man. Musical Comedian - not kung-fu fighter.
Anyway...Powerhouse has ALWAYS been stuck in my musical brain as a PROFOUND work of music, exactly right for viewing mechanical events occuring in the home or work place...
I began knowing this at about the age of 4 or 5....and someday hope to be in a musical group that is good enough to perform this number....I'm a tromboner, you know...oh, yes, I am.
ow ow ow
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Post# 24827-12/6/2002-20:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR VIDEO (FOR YOUR VIDEO MONITOR) (Ren & Stimpy)
MESSAGE: The best cartoon ever!
YOU EEEEDIOT!!!
On their cartoon, "Jiminy Lummox", there's a scene with a washing machine. Stimpy is washing Ren's collection of used celebrity underwear.
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Post# 24828-12/6/2002-21:21 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
POWERHOUSE - RAYMOND SCOTT
MESSAGE: Thanks for turning me on to the song writer's name, and to that exellent link, zzzzzz..
went straight to my kazaa and, sure enough, someone's sharing the entire album...in time, I should have it....3 selections came in this evening, already, and you're right...they're fabulous...each one is a different cycle, in a different machine...can't wait to own an original 78...to be played on the 1930 Philco 296...which is a powerhouse, indeed.
ow ow.
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Post# 24829-12/6/2002-21:27 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: Yes, Hamilton was a Franklin machinethrough the 60's and ultimately a White Consolidated product, though the 50's models were made by Norge.
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Post# 24830-12/6/2002-22:45 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RINSE YOUR MONITOR
MESSAGE: Here's another video....
photos to follow
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/MONITOR/INDEX2.htm
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Post# 24831-12/6/2002-23:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: RINSE YOUR MONITOR
MESSAGE: Excellent videos! Does this washer use an impeller, similar to a Hoover?
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Post# 24832-12/6/2002-23:29 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
FINAL FOTOS OF THE MONITOR
MESSAGE: O.K. that satisfies my urge to do manual laundry again for quite a while...I must say, my nails haven't looked this white and clean in some time...oxyclean...probably should wear rubber gloves next time...wonder if I can still get Pink ones...
Hope you can enjoy these photos...Sorry about life for you folks with dialup connections...
PEACE OW.
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/MONITOR/INDEX3.htm
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Post# 24833-12/6/2002-23:35 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: RINSE YOUR MONITOR (impeller - aerator - wobble plate - etc.)
MESSAGE: Yes. Very similar to the Hoover. On the back at the bottom of the monitor wringer it reads...aerator model aerw-4, so I guess perhaps this type of impeller is called an aerator..I call it a lint generating sun of a gun...never saw so much lint, lay so heavily, that it drained and cracked into a fractal type pattern, like lightning...see the final foto link, last shot..it's lint....
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Post# 24834-12/6/2002-23:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: As Jackie DeShannon would sing (thank you)
MESSAGE: Jason, I'm glad you're not leaving. I can't imagine this site without you.
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Post# 24835-12/7/2002-00:01 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment
MESSAGE: Luigi, don't we ALL hope to see them SOMEDAY!!!
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Post# 24836-12/7/2002-00:04 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: FINAL FOTOS OF THE MONITOR
MESSAGE: Great pictures, and there of course is the little Hoover-like impeller!
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Post# 24837-12/7/2002-00:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: RINSE YOUR MONITOR (impeller - aerator - wobble plate - etc.)
MESSAGE: Wow...I was wondering about that last photo, having looked at it before reading this post!
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Post# 24838-12/7/2002-00:12 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (am I a little people?)
MESSAGE: Jason, I got the matching Lady Dryer about a week ago (although she is harvest gold, so i don't know if that counts as matching, but control panel is the same). Shes in very good condition considering the age. It is sitting in my kitchen as well for lack of room, but I must admit I never thought of her as "resting" LOL. Or perhaps shes justing taking a nap. i like her though, I think it would be in my top 5 favs at this point.
What kind of erks me is that about 3 years ago i found a basic portable on the curb, that would match this, in Harvest gold from the same line, same panel, although not a Lady. I think it had only 1 cycle. And it worked so smooth and in good condition, but I got rid of it. I wasn't "officially" collecting then yes, i was in Washer denial, but no more.
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Post# 24839-12/7/2002-00:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears (Joni Mitchell))
MESSAGE: Don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got 'till it's gone. Take belt drive, give us a direct drive Shredmore (oh la la)
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Post# 24840-12/7/2002-00:12 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (am I a little people?)
MESSAGE: Jason, I got the matching Lady Dryer about a week ago (although she is harvest gold, so i don't know if that counts as matching, but control panel is the same). Shes in very good condition considering the age. It is sitting in my kitchen as well for lack of room, but I must admit I never thought of her as "resting" LOL. Or perhaps shes justing taking a nap. i like her though, I think it would be in my top 5 favs at this point.
What kind of erks me is that about 3 years ago i found a basic portable on the curb, that would match this, in Harvest gold from the same line, same panel, although not a Lady. I think it had only 1 cycle. And it worked so smooth and in good condition, but I got rid of it. I wasn't "officially" collecting then yes, i was in Washer denial, but no more.
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Post# 24841-12/7/2002-00:14 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment
MESSAGE: Oh my, I'm water logged already. Can we recycle the water and drain it into another washer???
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Post# 24842-12/7/2002-00:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: Just don't forget to add some Rustoleium!!!
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Post# 24843-12/7/2002-00:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (Hamilton)
MESSAGE: Greg, Hamilton was one of THE mainstay tank-built dryers of the 1950s. Had a window in the door. Robert showed a few during hs Saturday estate sale finds throught the history of the club. They were fine machines.
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Post# 24844-12/7/2002-00:22 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: The Royal Family of Home Laundry Equipment
MESSAGE: Wow fresh out of the box, just delivered, brand new. look at those babies shine.
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Post# 24845-12/7/2002-00:29 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (young man running through Sears)
MESSAGE: I remember the dishwashers, I think even into the early 80s they had that. I think Maytag still has a display like that.
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Post# 24846-12/7/2002-00:34 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com
MESSAGE: I agree.
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Post# 24847-12/7/2002-00:39 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: maybe classic should be anything that isn't made anymore. Like Ge filter Flo that was changed I think in 1993. Or whirlpool/kenmore belt drive washers.
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Post# 24848-12/7/2002-00:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: Remember, as Jetcone pointed out at the 2001 Minnie convention, our predecessors here collected wringer washers. Many in this group started the "automatic" collection phasse. The youhnger people here will be restoring the washers from the 70s & 80s.
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Post# 24849-12/7/2002-00:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: Remember, as Jetcone pointed out at the 2001 Minnie convention, our predecessors here collected wringer washers. Many in this group started the "automatic" collection phasse. The youhnger people here will be restoring the washers from the 70s & 80s.
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Post# 24850-12/7/2002-01:06 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR VIDEO (FOR YOUR VIDEO MONITOR)
MESSAGE: wow a square tub. Nice video. I wish i could do that. Is there an agitator in there or does that rely on a pump to move the water and clothes?
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Post# 24851-12/7/2002-01:11 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: And some of will be restoring Neptunes, HE3t's, and Frigmores in the 2010's ;-)
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Post# 24852-12/7/2002-01:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: FINAL FOTOS OF THE MONITOR
MESSAGE: Cool videos with cool music too. What a great job you did restoring this one. Once in a while doing manual laundry is fun, isn't it. Ofcourse not too often.
BTW, thank you for the nails tip, now where is that Oxyclean Jon Jetcone sent me....
Louis
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Post# 24853-12/7/2002-03:09 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POWERHOUSE - RAYMOND SCOTT (Spike Jones question Bob)
MESSAGE: Sorry for going off topic.
There's a Spike Jones song that I'm looking for. It's all instrumental so I can't sing any lyrics.
It sounds like a ragtime song with a rhythm banjo and there's a trombone with a wah mute that goes something like "Doo-wah Doo-wah". It wasn't on my cassette but I've heard it on Dr. Demento a few times before. There's also a solo with the cowbell xylophone somewhere. If you know what I'm talking about can you share it to me on Kazaa? Also the Raymond Scott stuff?
Thanks.
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Post# 24854-12/7/2002-03:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: RINSE YOUR MONITOR (Hilarious!)
MESSAGE: Oh I need to DL that song because I have an idea for a washer video.
Mechanical music. I love it. It's like Paul McCartney's "Silly Love Songs" with the pile driver going with the beat. That's creativity!
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Post# 24855-12/7/2002-03:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: MONITOR WRINGER (am I a little people?)
MESSAGE: That's why I like belt drive Kenmores. They don't stop! Well, they do but they're easily fixed and last a long time. Most of the machines on the floor of the museum were Kenmore/Whirlpool and most of them worked in they're unrestored shape.
The direct drive Kenmores also last a long time, mainly because there's nothing to them. A motor, pump, and transmission all right there in one easy to take apart mechanism. I was amazed when I first took my old Whirlpool apart (when I finally figured it out).
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Post# 24856-12/7/2002-03:19 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: TCOX where are you?!
MESSAGE: I'm sure Todd will keep those babies cool and dry inside the house. I am concerned about the Rapidry as that's out in the shed (I think). There's always room at my air conditioned trailer for that Rapidry ;-)
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Post# 24857-12/7/2002-03:21 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: I'm keeping my Frigmore so I can say "I bought it new" 20 years from now.
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Post# 24858-12/7/2002-03:25 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD - Whirlpool Foot Washer
MESSAGE: This is the infamous Whirlpool that my aunt had where I stuck my foot in. Of course, my cousin Dana ratted on me and I wasn't allowed to watch the washer anymore that day.
Jason: "But Aunt Lou, I can't watch the agitator"
Aunt Lou: "NO SIR! WE DO NOT PUT OUR FEET IN THE WASHING MACHINE"
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Post# 24859-12/7/2002-07:58 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: FINAL FOTOS OF THE MONITOR
MESSAGE: Hi Imperialbob,
that's a snazzy little washer.
That stainless steel pulsator/aerator/impeller... I have only seen one washer with that before, it was a very early Hoover single tub. Most Hoovers I have seen had a bakelite impeller. (including the Keymatic)
So was the Hoover or the Monitor first with that style of washer, with the impeller in the side of the wash tub?
Chris
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Post# 24860-12/7/2002-16:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
I guess I'm the only one home.
MESSAGE: I should be at my friend's house playing my drums but I'm still stuck at home getting over this nasty cold.
At least, this morning, I had Koffee and Kenmores. Nothing like that first sip of coffee while watching the clothes tumble.
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Post# 24861-12/7/2002-17:52 ||| devildaddy (Troy NY)
SUBJECT:
HE3t reliability
MESSAGE: Been a long time since I've looked at the board here. A friend is seriously considering purchasing an HE3t laundry pair as they're stackable and would perfectly fit his laundry room. Last time I knew, reliability of the washer was suspect. Can anyone give me an idea of the current reliability of these machines?
---Charlie
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Post# 24862-12/7/2002-21:00 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: In that case, don't forget to give the outside of the cabinet a thorough detailing on a regular basis: automotive style cleaner, then polish, followed by wax. You can omit the cleaner if the surface is already in good shape. I like Meguiar's #7 polish followed by #26 yellow wax. This will feed the paint and make it silky smooth.
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Post# 24863-12/7/2002-21:01 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: Oh no, then WCI would be a classic (not made anymore, Electrolux is deep-sixing the WCI nameplate). Hehehehe...
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Post# 24864-12/7/2002-23:33 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: HE3t reliability
MESSAGE: Hi, its nice to see you! The link below will take you to the THS Appliance Forum, where the HE3/Duet machines have been under discussion for some time. Maybe there will be some good or interesting information there! They allow 100 posts per thread, and they appear to be up to part 38! I went back a few and the beginning of each thread seems to have a link at the beginning to the thread previous, though some may have scrolled off. Good luck!
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/appl/msg1207024019260.html?28
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Post# 24865-12/8/2002-00:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Tempest in a teapot?)
MESSAGE: Right on Jason!!!!!
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Post# 24866-12/8/2002-00:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: HE3t reliability
MESSAGE: Charlie, per Scott's reply and the link. You can also do a goggle search on the same topic and resssurrect some of hte older threads taht have dropped off. I think reliability has improved somewhat, but it's still largely boils down to Sears having proper delivery and installation, which is a crap shoot at best. Maybe you & Mike can tackle that job, as meticulous is Mike is. And yes, it's very very good to hear from you. Keep us posted as to your friend's decision. A few members here have them. They got the optional extended warranty. Also, ask Mike to reply to my emails if/when he can. I know he's been busy, but I miss keepin up with him. Also look forward to the day when I can meet both of y'all. Thanks. Bob
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Post# 24867-12/8/2002-12:16 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
What makes a classic?
MESSAGE: When considering a "classic", do we look for the styling, the mechanics or a combination of both?
For me, it's more the styling. That said, I'd cut off in the late 70's, after which the looks of the machines got so homongenized. There may be a classic WP/KM dd machine some day, but if you have one, you pretty much "have them all" since the exterior remained the same throughout the models for many years. Kinda like a Maytag -- they didn't change the styling for years and years, nor did they change their mechanics. So if you have one of these machines, you don't really need another (my apologies to Mr. Mark Lightedcontrols). On the other hand, when you had manufactures/marketers like Kenmore who made every model look different, while maybe the mechanics were the same, having all those different looks and agitators is quite another story. Or Frigidaire, who changed their look every year (until about 1966) would be another collectable for their visual effect. Yeah, 20 years from now maybe a Frigemore might be classic, but it won't have near the appeal as pre-homongenized, pre-cost cutting, earlier machines.
As always, JMHO...
-ph
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Post# 24868-12/8/2002-18:50 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
kenmore/whirlpool dryer
MESSAGE: Does anyone know when they started making Whirlpool and Kenmore dryers with the in the super-capacity?
Now there is a dryer that, someone correct if wrong, is still made basicly the same as it was starting in the 60s sometime.
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Post# 24869-12/8/2002-20:10 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: kenmore/whirlpool dryer
MESSAGE: '66-67 is when they went from the perforated bulkhead design to the solid design, which was also the same time they made the super capacity.
Then there was the really big Kenmore dryer which was made in the early 70's.
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Post# 24870-12/8/2002-21:21 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: kenmore/whirlpool dryer
MESSAGE: I saw one of those! It had a matching control panel to a Kenmore 700 washer. That's a really huge dryer. I would love to get one of those.
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Post# 24871-12/9/2002-04:36 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: What makes a classic?
MESSAGE: Well that is very true styling flair is not what it used to be but what got us into washers in the first place?
For me it was the exxcitement of watching clothes moving through the water, when your 4 years old you dont care what the machine looks like compared to other models or the mechanics but you remember the machine you grew up with.
And as each new generation comes along the machines htey are fond of are going to be different. For me when ChesterMike found that Simpson washer in the UK so far away from its home that was exciting for me because those were the washers that I grew up with and IMHO I think they were quite pleasantly styled as well as exciting to watch.
And while the vintage machines like in Roberts basement or Ganskys garage are truly beautiful machines lets be honest that there arent that many more to be found out there, which makes them all the more valuable.
BUT as long as washing machines are manufactured there is going to be someone out htere fascinated by these marvels of technology no matter how pedestrian we may find them and they are going to be special to someone. Its not a classic if no one is interested.
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Post# 24872-12/9/2002-04:53 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Just what really are the goal post and what field should we be playing in?)
MESSAGE: Hello again. i get so confused here.
I was somewhat hestiant to join this club at first having very little knowledge of truly vintage (as opposed to classic see my other post) washing machines but I am so glad I have joined because i have learned so much. I also thought that being with people who like me have grown up thinking they were the only one who liked washing machines that my stories and experiences with washing machines would be understood and apprieciated regardless of hte age of machine or whether or not you were farmiliar with the manufacterers or the models.
SO why are we constantly squabling over whether we are talking about a new machine or not. Notafixer could of asked his question on THS but he probably posted here beacuse, like me, he values the opinions and experience of the members here more than that on THS.
While the sandbox is a good idea, i cant help but feel disappointed when I have to post about a new appliances that has captured my interest there when I regard you more as friends than the aquaintances over in that home site. I would imagine that the members here would be more excited. If I wanted to know what model machine I should by yes that is better handled in THS but if I wanted to mention a new feature or styling then here is is where I would expect to find an appriecative audience.
I cant help but get the feeling that some feel that they are the true appliance enthusiasts while the rest of us are jsut kicking around in the sandbox.
Oh and I also remember that a while ago we had a number of posts regarding a cat of all things yet we are so quick to be banished to the sandbox when asking a legitamite appliance question.
We should count ourselves lucky that the few problems we have had with trolls have been handled rather quickly so do we really need to be persecuting our own kind?
Sorry this is such a long essay.
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Post# 24873-12/9/2002-05:35 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Classic Appliances Jr.com (Just what really are the goal post and what field should we be playing in?)
MESSAGE: Well, on that note, I have to wonder if that is part of the reason that so many of the original members no longer post here or participate in any way. I don't know what made me scroll through the profiles the other day, but I was struck by the number of people who were so active last year but are nowhere to be found this year. And if I recall correctly, there were many more spirited and interesting discussions then. And sometimes they weren't centered on only "vintage" appliances. We sometimes discussed more recent machines, detergent developments and other matters. But nothing was "beat to death" and we always successfully returned (without having to be severely policed) to the core topic. Of course there was that one big blow up last winter over some ridiculous comments made and I think that affected things. While it supposedly "blew over", it was never really dealt with or resolved and there was a significant rift caused. And after that the focus shifted toward policing the topics and quite frankly things became less spontaneous and less fun.
Also, I think individual alliances have been formed within the remaining group and there is less of a group or teamwork feeling. It seems that there are small subgroups of people who share information, appliance leads etc... with each other because they are now friends so things have become more exclusive in what was once a very inclusive group.
With all that, do I have any answers? No, I do not. Perhaps this is all part of an evolutionary process and is unavoidable. But I do miss the camrederie and information sharing that was once enjoyed. As always this is just my opinion and is not presented as objective fact.
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Post# 24874-12/9/2002-06:27 ||| hotpoint (pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
1957 hotpoint double walloven
MESSAGE: I am looking for an owners manual and a "roast right" thermometer for a 1957 Hotpoint double walloven.
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Post# 24875-12/9/2002-09:10 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Appliance Farm video
MESSAGE: I was watching the appliances farm video and at the very end you guys were talking about a Norgeilator? What is that?
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Post# 24876-12/9/2002-09:44 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
individual alliances/MEAN PEOPLE/LAUGHING AT LIFE
MESSAGE: Not only are there too many INDIVIDUAL ALLIANCES, but there are entirely too many MEAN PEOPLE , who are just plain nasty, and never appologize or have anything helpful or interesting to say....I know I can sometimes appear to be mean, but at least I try to appologize and have something FUN to say every once in a while..
I've been totally BANNED IN BOSTON from this group. Trust me, I'm not here because I love people...it's because I love appliances. Having an appliance you LOVE removed from your collection by a mean person who never speaks to you again, is like haveing a child abducted that you never get to see (except in a quick photo) . This was one of the WORST experiences in my collecting history, when this happened to me, last year, as a result of this site. However, I'll get over it, and will continue to post about my old machines as interesting stories develop.
Also, if I can be of any assistance to any of you just by sharing knowledge,, I'll be glad to do that too.
We gotta just take the good with the bad, folks. Nobody, no site, and no club, is perfect.
Lets focus on what's good about our club and just let the rest exist in silence.
For those of you in possession of the souvenir disc I produced for folks at the convention, please open the music section of the disc, look under RUTH ETTING and play LAUGHING AT LIFE, as a theme for this post. Ask yourself, how can Bob Wirth be such a bad guy, and still love all this old Ruth Etting music? For those who don't have 'the disc', click on the link below. Made this transfer myself on my 1962 Thorens turnbable (td124), here in my Imperial Laundry Studio.. from an original 1930 Columbia Viva-tonal 78...in so so shape.
LAUGHING AT LIFE.
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/LIFE.rm
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Post# 24877-12/9/2002-10:48 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: individual alliances/MEAN PEOPLE/LAUGHING AT LIFE
MESSAGE: Bob! Love the Ruth Etting! Nothing like a 78 played on a tube record player!
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Post# 24878-12/9/2002-11:02 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: individual alliances/MEAN PEOPLE/LAUGHING AT LIFE (LAUGHING AT LIFE)
MESSAGE: Thanks, Mark. I knew I could count on you, not only to appreciate the song, but to SAY SO.
Start now, and Cheer UP...the skys will clear up....
You'll lose all your blues...
Laughing at Life...
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Post# 24879-12/9/2002-11:14 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: What makes a classic?
MESSAGE: My test for "What makes a classic":
If a machine needs repairs in excess of it's value do you:
a) Disassemble, repair to original or better-than-original operation, clean all internal and external parts, lovingly retouch any chipped paint, polish or rechrome all the chrome parts. Or try and find a good home for the machine where it will be taken care of.
b) Drag it out to the curb, where it will be picked up and crushed for scrap metal. Or take the machine to the woods and shoot it full of holes as shown on http://www.singsingsing.com/has.html
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Post# 24880-12/9/2002-11:28 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: individual alliances/MEAN PEOPLE/LAUGHING AT LIFE
MESSAGE: Bob,
"don't mind the rain drops, wait till the rain stops, there you'll find the sun laughing at life"
Thanks!, I got a lift out of that today!
It been a very dark month for me personally, glad to see my mood can be lifted.
-Alex
(laughing at life here in Fort Lauderdale)
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Post# 24881-12/9/2002-11:43 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: individual alliances/MEAN PEOPLE/LAUGHING AT LIFE (LIFTING SPIRITS)
MESSAGE: Excellent, Alex.
So glad you were able to achieve the desired effect, by playing the Ruth Etting,and having it lift your spirits...She'd be so pleased....as am I.
Your (sometimes difficult) Pal in the laundry room,
BOB
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Post# 24882-12/9/2002-12:03 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
1952 Kenmore T.V. sighting
MESSAGE: I was watching an old episode of "The F.B.I." because an actor-friend of mine, David Macklin, was in it and there is a scene where David is in his mom's basement and there, in full view, was a 1952 Kenmore washer. The episode was filmed in 1966 so this machine already had some years on it. I was hoping the acress playing his Mom would walk over to it and do a load but no such luck.
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Post# 24883-12/9/2002-12:49 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: I'm really not the GE expert...but I'm betting today's POD is a '67.
Can anyone here let me know for sure what year it is?
Sure is a beauty of a machine...Isn't that the one with the variable speed electronically controlled clutch (that never worked right)? Also, notice how 'time line' like the timer display appears.....Pretty neat. Is anyone in our club actually 'running' this machine in their collection, today?
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Post# 24884-12/9/2002-13:55 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: Bob, the very first time I saw an ad for a machine of this design, it was from a 1964 magazine. For whatever reason, this control panel style was very short-lived, though that doesn't necessarily mean it did not exist in 1967 on a certain model or models. I know I have seen ads dated 1966 which already depict the familiar style with the rocker switches (pushbuttons on the dryers) banked at the left, that lasted into the 1980s in several modified forms. I am not sure if the pictured machine had an electromagnetic clutch, but I always thought it was a neat design. I've only ever seen one in person in John's warehouse, but it was not connected.
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Post# 24885-12/9/2002-13:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: Looking again, this may be a 1965 model. I see it is a V-14, whereas I know the 1964 ad I saw it said V-12.
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Post# 24886-12/9/2002-14:59 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: Alas, I passed one up in my early days in the club! But there is a used appliance store owner in Decatur that has a matching set in coppertone.
-ph
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Post# 24887-12/9/2002-15:08 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: ...which was the color I first saw it in an ad. Coppertone seems to suit this particular set very well.
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Post# 24888-12/9/2002-15:09 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: What I don't understand in today's POD, it that white thing her laundry basket or the V14 wash tub?
-Alex
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Post# 24889-12/9/2002-15:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: That is the mini-basket, which is outside the washer in that picture. I kind of like they way they did this particular ad, with the reflection in front of the washer.
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Post# 24890-12/9/2002-15:11 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
Bob's Bouncy Music
MESSAGE: Bob,
I had never heard Ruth before although I'm a fan of music of the period. What a great song! I hope I managed to save it. Absolutely Tre Fab! Maybe, you could be persuaded to list some other choices in the sand box so as to not upset anyone. Thanks again,
Tom
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Post# 24891-12/9/2002-15:51 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: PH, Are you going to grab this set??? What beautiful machines! I've never actually seen one of these and don't know how I missed it at the convention! Mark
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Post# 24892-12/9/2002-16:36 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
GE FILTERFLO POD
MESSAGE: I had that exact washer, and it dates from the mid 60's. It was actually a late 64 model, and was carried over to late 1966. Even though GE marketed it as a 4 SPEED machine, it actually had the same two speed clutch as the other washers. GE did not come out with the variable clutch until about 1967-68. They did make a THREE speed clutch also on a few machines, at about the same time period: 1968 or so. GE never made a 4 SPEED clutch. The 4 SPEEDS refers to the combination of speeds the washer could be programmed for: fast wash/fast spin; fast wash/slow spin; slow wash/slow spin; slow wash/fast spin.
The buttons pre- selected the water temp and speed of wash/rinse/spin cycle, and the RED dots corresponded to the cycle button the operator selected, so you knew where to turn the dial to. All in all it was/is a fabulous design, one of my personal GE favorites! JIMMY
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Post# 24893-12/9/2002-17:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bob's Bouncy Music
MESSAGE: Bob's CD get's played over and over, I love the music and have also become addicted to "Radio Dismuke" on live365.com which plays period music all the time. If I were more ambitious with my free time, I would pipe the music down to the laundry rooms to enjoy while washing in my vintage machines!
Thanks again for the CD Bob, love it!!
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Post# 24894-12/9/2002-17:07 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE FILTERFLO POD
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info Jimmy - I love this washer and would be thrilled to find a set of these someday. (not that I have room for another set!)
Some neighbors of ours had the next model down from this one - lighted panel, fully featured, mini-basket - which I never saw being used and of course, those wonderful GE sounds... Makes me want a GE washer for the collection even more!
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Post# 24895-12/9/2002-17:21 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
Who makes it???
MESSAGE: I like to know if any of you guys have Directv?
On the Food Network there is an somewhat up to date art deco kitchen with classic appliances in use, could you tell me what type of fridge and stove that is being used on the *30 Minuet meal* show.
Thanks....
Cleanteam
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Post# 24896-12/9/2002-17:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who makes it???
MESSAGE: If I think of it I will try and catch it, and see. I watch programs on that channel sometimes. I checked the website but there are no pictures of the set.
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Post# 24897-12/9/2002-17:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Appliance Farm video
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie- I think what Jon Charles was talking about in the video was a Kelvinator washer that was made by Norge with the burp-up filter. Norge made machines for Kelvinator briefly in the late 60's after American Motors sold the Kelvinator brand. Norge-Kelvinators were short lived, then WCI/Franklin machines were sold as Kelvinator from then on. We saw one of these Norge machines on the farm this year and I posted a picture of it. You can barely make out the Kelvinator name on the panel, but the Norge design is very apparent inside.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/2002+Aberdeen+Appliance+Burial+Ground&.src=ph&.dnm=Dsc00015.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/2002%2bAberdeen%2bAppliance%2bBurial%2bGround%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24898-12/9/2002-17:36 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who makes it??? (30 Minutes Appliances)
MESSAGE: Isn't that fridge and stove cool? I don't know for sure, but I'm willing to be that the fridge is produced by the Northstar Division of Elmira Stove Works. They make really cool reproductions. Click on the Northstar logo on their home page. For a mere $2,800 plus options for things like an ice maker you can order one in Robins Egg Blue. If lived in a house, instead of an apartment, I'd seriously consider getting one.
http://www.elmirastoveworks.com/
LINK: http://www.elmirastoveworks.com/
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Post# 24899-12/9/2002-17:44 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who makes it??? (Here's a better link)
MESSAGE: Here a direct link to the Northstar Division's home page.
LINK: http://67.69.15.106/1950.html
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Post# 24900-12/9/2002-18:01 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Who makes it??? (Here's a better link)
MESSAGE: I have seen those before and think they are so cool. Definitely something I would consider. People spend $5,000 on a SubZero, so no reason why we can't, on something we like! :)
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Post# 24901-12/9/2002-19:24 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Norge washer for sale, white
MESSAGE: Have fun!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2080125972&category=20714
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Post# 24902-12/9/2002-19:25 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy
MESSAGE: Have Fun!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2080128376&category=20714
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Post# 24903-12/9/2002-20:13 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy
MESSAGE: Careful, sport. Look at that door. Look familiar??? That gives the machine away for what it really is - - a WCI Frigidaire!
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Post# 24904-12/9/2002-20:14 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy
MESSAGE: Also, the description lists the color as almond. So much for poppy!!
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Post# 24905-12/9/2002-20:21 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy (Dryer for sale)
MESSAGE: Sorry Jamie - this is no 1/18 poppy - it even said it was manufactured in 92 - Anything made after 1980 was no GM Frigidaire. My Aunt had a real poppy 1974 1/18 set - what a beautiful pair.
Peter
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Post# 24906-12/9/2002-20:24 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy
MESSAGE: Oops! Sorry, I need to read more carefully!
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Post# 24907-12/9/2002-20:25 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy
MESSAGE: Oops! Sorry, I need to read more carefully!
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Post# 24908-12/9/2002-20:25 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy (Dryer for sale)
MESSAGE: Oops! Sorry, I need to read more carefully!
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Post# 24909-12/9/2002-20:39 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy (Dryer for sale)
MESSAGE: Well Jamie, you can only imagine the first time we walked into a store in the 80s seeing a Frigidaire washer with that style control panel, and expecting to open the lid and find the customary jetcone....STILL gives me the shivers...
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Post# 24910-12/9/2002-21:07 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy (Dryer for sale)
MESSAGE: I still remember the horrible January, 1981 day I went to a appliance store - and saw those Dreadful creatures. And shortly before that it was said changes and improvments were to be made to the Frigidaire designs. (Some improvements)
I also remember sales people telling me they were supposed to be telling customers they washed just as well as the 1/18. What a scam!!
I still wonder to this day what it could have been like now if things had been different.
Peter
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Post# 24911-12/9/2002-21:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: Duh, Mark, I missed it too. Can't even remotely place it.
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Post# 24912-12/10/2002-00:11 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy (Dryer for sale)
MESSAGE: for all you loyal 1-18 lovers I wish I had the only frigidaire washer (and 2 matching dryers)I have ever come accross, for you. It was in 1993, I am estimating the machines were 1972-73 with the upswept backsplash. (i know they made them in the 60s only the timer was in the upswept part instead on the actual control panel back then) Got them as part of an allotment. All white. I remember connecting the water level wires together to get it to agitate or whatever its called and it worked. but I was liquidating and i think they went, well I can't even say it. =o( Wish I had them for you guys, I know several of you would give them a good home. And I swear if I come accross any like that again I will let you all know. About a 2 weeks ago I came accross a dryer similiar to the one in the Ebay ad. But from the sounds of it. Those just don't fit the bill.
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Post# 24913-12/10/2002-00:53 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT:
Super Roto Swirl
MESSAGE: I was going to post this a while ago when we were having the password trouble, but never got around to it. For those of you that have never roamed about RepairClinic.com. They do carry certain classic parts. So for those of you pining away for a Super Roto Swirl. By all means, get out your credit cards!!! Although I do think that $60.90 is a little much, but that's just my opinion. After all you are getting a brand new Roto Swirl. Enjoy!!!!
Regards,
Geoff
LINK: http://www.repairclinic.com/0081.asp?RccPartID=2583
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Post# 24914-12/10/2002-00:56 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT:
And yet another find!!
MESSAGE: All for just $58.75, you TOO can own an 18-pound Super Surgilator!!!
You know who
LINK: http://www.repairclinic.com/0081.asp?RccPartID=2813
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Post# 24915-12/10/2002-04:49 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1/18 Dryer for sale, poppy (Dryer for sale)
MESSAGE: So true...... I still remember the shiver and the rage I felt when I realized we had been duped!!!
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Post# 24916-12/10/2002-07:03 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Super Roto Swirl (WOW)
MESSAGE: I didn't think they'd still make those. I wonder if you can get a RS in gold just like the old days.
I guess it's expensive like getting parts for an antique car.
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Post# 24917-12/10/2002-11:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: The white washer I let go, and I still kick myself about. The coppertone set is not for sale. The store owner has moved them into some mysterious warehouse somewhere. :(
-ph
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Post# 24918-12/10/2002-11:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Dreaming of a 1-18 weekend
MESSAGE: I'm going crazy here. The 1-18 set is on its way to Todd and I can't wait to see them. I'm savin' up laundry, hopefully we'll have a wash-in soon.
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Post# 24919-12/10/2002-15:33 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: Peter, Perhaps if you talked to him and stressed the importance of those machines and how you could give them a great loving home, he could be convinced to part with them. Remind him that old appliances that just sit around tend to rust, corrode, and fall appart! Or..........I could send Vito to break his bones until he reveals where they are!!! LOL!!! Mark
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Post# 24920-12/10/2002-16:10 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
ATTN: ImperialBob
MESSAGE: Bob,
Is your email address correct in your profile? Email I send is getting kicked back.
-ph
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Post# 24921-12/10/2002-17:56 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: ATTN: ImperialBob (CORRECT EMAIL ADDRESS)
MESSAGE: Hiya, Peter. Yes, my email is correctly listed in the profiles...just now I clicked on it and sent myself a test message....and it worked....
that makes me wonder what could be wrong?
It's robert.wirth2@verizon.net
Hope you are able to get it to work...I have broadband service, and I never let my mailbox get full, so I can't imagine why it won't work....
GOOD LUCK AND HAPPY HOLIDAYS
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Post# 24922-12/10/2002-18:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT IS THE YEAR OF THE POD
MESSAGE: Could you just send Vito???
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Post# 24923-12/10/2002-19:58 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT:
RE: individual alliances/MEAN PEOPLE/LAUGHING AT LIFE
MESSAGE: Loved the recording! I sure that she influenced a couple of my Faves: Sarah Vaughn & Ella Fitzgerald. I was away for the weekend ,so just caught up with the posts. Yeah, the larger a group becomes, the more interests diverge. People DO (and will always!) form smaller social groups. It is not always meant as a slight- just folks with similar interests(and backgrounds, sometimes attractiveness, socioeconomic status, etc.)tend to congregate. Most people tend to be most comfortable with folks they PERCIEVE to be similar to them. That said, there is no need for rudeness here. Perception plays a HUGE part in all of this; what one may find humorous, another will find offensive. My experience is that if people apologized more frequently, we'd have a more healthy society. Okay, back to vintage machines!
Duane
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Post# 24924-12/10/2002-20:34 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Westinghouse dryer
MESSAGE: Have fun! It is WESTINGHOUSE, right? Not the newer cheap kind?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2080467729&category=20714
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Post# 24925-12/10/2002-21:00 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse dryer (OLDER WESTINGHOUSE)
MESSAGE: Yup. That's a very cool vintage gas dryer alright....someone here needs that....The D shaped door opening and the two really large diameter thermostats visible to the right of the opening let you know right away, this is vintage.
I'm guessing '67 to 70 or so....anyone know for sure?
John Lefever would know...
ANYWAY. NEAT MACHINE! GOOD EYE, JAMIE!
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Post# 24926-12/10/2002-21:29 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse dryer (OLDER WESTINGHOUSE)
MESSAGE: Don't make me blush! :-) But, thanks for the compliment. :-)
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Post# 24927-12/10/2002-22:33 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse dryer (OLDER WESTINGHOUSE)
MESSAGE: Kewl! Interesting arrangement with the thermostats in the air-flow at the door opening.
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Post# 24928-12/11/2002-08:43 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
THAT OLDER WESTINGHOUSE GAS DRYER
MESSAGE: That machine is SO similar to the POD of a few days ago, which was the '64 Westinghouse stack pair, I'm thinking it could be a '65 to '69 or so....
I'll call John Lefever up and ask him what he thinks....
leaning more towards '65 to 69 now than my original estimate of 67 to 70, but it's in there somewhere....
Anyone gonna bid on it?
BOB
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Post# 24929-12/11/2002-09:48 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
RE: THAT OLDER WESTINGHOUSE GAS DRYER (ASKED JOHN LEFEVER)
MESSAGE: Yup. He's thinking, like I, '67, which was the first year for Avocado (for westinghouse), and likely no later than '70.
So there you go. Anyone with a better guess, or more accurate information....Please step forward and reveal yourself.
John ALSO mentioned that some gas dryers from that period used STANDING PILOTS, which are far less desireable than electric ignition, because the standing pilot produces an acidic by product which totally rusts out the dryer, from the inside out!
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Post# 24930-12/11/2002-18:08 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Hamilton Question
MESSAGE: Did Hamilton ever make a washer to make this a set?
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Hamilton&.src=ph&.dnm=Hamilton+Dryer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/lst%3f%26.dir=/Hamilton%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24931-12/11/2002-20:41 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Hey Robert...
MESSAGE: Do you think I could have a picture up close of the Control Tower a top your awesome Unimatic? That is my most wanted machine!
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Post# 24932-12/11/2002-20:41 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Where is everybody?
MESSAGE: I feel so alone. :-(
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Post# 24933-12/11/2002-21:06 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Where is everybody? ((I'm here Jamie!) :-))
MESSAGE: It has been pretty quiet around here the last day or so! Hope you are having a good week!
I too am excited to hear the answer to your Hamilton question. I am not sure if that particular dryer went with a washer or if they were made before they started offering washers. I think many people bought the dryer in that picture to go with wringer washers, then kept it when they switched to automatic.
Usually though, when I have seen ads for Hamilton washer and dryer pairs, both the washer and dryer have rear controls, unlike this one, which has front controls. I'm not sure when they switched, or when they last made the front control ones. There are a couple of different versions of the front control ones, but they are not too different from one another.
Frigidaire, on the other hand, offered a dryer very similar to this, made by Hamilton, to go with the earliest of their automatic washers. In about 1950 or 1951, around the same time the W0-65 washer came out, they started to make their own dryers.
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Post# 24934-12/11/2002-21:21 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Where is everybody?
MESSAGE: Jamie, I feel the same sway. It's been very quiet here the last few days. But I'm here. Bob
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Post# 24935-12/11/2002-21:37 ||| jimmyb (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT:
RE: Where is everybody? (Hello)
MESSAGE: Greetings from Phoenix, just found this site and became a member!
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Post# 24936-12/11/2002-21:38 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Where is everybody? (Hello)
MESSAGE: Hello Jimmy, welcome! My parents live in AZ in the winter, and I visit there usually 2-3 times per year. Are there any special brands or types of appliances you enjoy?
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Post# 24937-12/11/2002-21:47 ||| jimmyb (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT:
RE: Where is everybody? (Hello)
MESSAGE: Would have to say that I like/enjoy Maytags from the 60's, actually like any washers/dryers from that time with lighted controls.
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Post# 24938-12/11/2002-22:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Where is everybody? (Hello)
MESSAGE: You would love Gansky's 1967 all pushbutton Maytag set! :)
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Post# 24939-12/11/2002-22:08 ||| jimmyb (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT:
RE: Where is everybody? (Hello)
MESSAGE: Just went to his profile and saw the pictures. I would have to say that is my dream set.
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Post# 24940-12/11/2002-22:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Hey Robert... (Here's one)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie -
A new favorite, and a fine one at that!
I have a picture of a 57 Control Tower panel that Jon Charles sent me to possibly use as a printing guide for my broken lens that I had to "laminate" with plastic to hold it together. These glass panels breaking was a common repair for this model, but I've not found any "new-old-stock" of them so I may have to have some screen printed.
If you click on the picture, you will get the larger than life version...
BTW, did you see there is a 1-18 for sale in Detroit advertised in the classified section now?
Cheers - Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire+WI+57&.src=ph&.dnm=conttrol+tower+lens.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%2bWI%2b57%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24941-12/11/2002-22:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Hamilton Question
MESSAGE: This appears to be a late 40's model dryer and Hamilton didn't have a washer until the early 50's which was sourced from Norge. Frigidaire introduced an electric dryer, made by Hamilton and very similar to this design, in 1947 as a companion piece to their new automatic washer.
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Post# 24942-12/12/2002-08:26 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
TODAY'S POD
MESSAGE: These machines are obviously Hotpoint, but the ad doesn't say so...are we to think , perhaps, these are from PENNY'S?
Interesting that the ad doesn't really say WHAT KIND of machines these are....anyone know for sure?
It is safe to say that today's POD shows one pair of 'golden oldies'.....and here, I'll say it....geez, they're UGLY! Neat ad, but I'm betting these are no ones 'dream machines'. More of a nightmare, really...
Now, Don't anyone get upset...I'm just kiddin' around. I'm sure they're lovely in the eyes of the right beholder..
BOB
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Post# 24943-12/12/2002-08:29 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
READING THE FINE PRINT
MESSAGE: I'm thinking that EATON VIKING is the main clue. I've never heard these words before. Can anyone here enlighten me?
I'll guess today's pair are 1969 Penny's machines....DEFINATELY never saw those before....
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Post# 24944-12/12/2002-08:55 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: READING THE FINE PRINT
MESSAGE: I thought Viking was Canadian???
Chris.
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Post# 24945-12/12/2002-09:05 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
New photos
MESSAGE: Here is a link to photos I took a few weeks ago of a Frigidaire Master washing machine I saw at the recyclers. I couldn't take it home so for posterity I at least took some photos of it. It had the installation date written on a tag on the back, from memory it was in 1965. It had a Pulsamatic transmission, single speed motor, only one control (timer) with water temp (cold or warm only) selected by different starting positions on the timer. The white button on the left of the control panel is the motor overload reset button.
Also for anyone interested, go back to another album, "Hoover Floorcare", to look at a sales brochure for Hoover floorcare products. The last page (P12) has photos of a Hoovermatic twin tub, Hoover Keymatic washer, Hoover iron and other stuff. I found this leaflet inside a box of attachments to suit a Hoover Convertible vacuum cleaner. The attachments look almost unused. I got the lot including the original cardboard box for $5 from a junk shop in Colac.
Chris
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Post# 24946-12/12/2002-09:07 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: New photos (will I ever get it right?)
MESSAGE: Sorry, I dunnit again. Here's the link...
Chris
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst?.dir=/Frigidaire+Master&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst%3f%26.dir=/Hoover%2bFloorcare%2bbrochure%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24947-12/12/2002-09:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: READING THE FINE PRINT (GE under the hood)
MESSAGE: I think it is GE under the hood, since there is a mini-basket. Look at the controls: there's the GE timer knob with Hotpoint option selector knobs. This POD has been up before and Eddy confirmed the Canadian roots.
-ph
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Post# 24948-12/12/2002-09:24 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: New photos (Aussie Pulsamatic)
MESSAGE: Holy cow! What a neat machine, with the badge on the front. Funny there is no hot wash setting on a 1965 machine. Could you at least get parts for your Pulsamatic from this washer before it went to the Krusher?
-ph
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Post# 24949-12/12/2002-09:48 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: New photos (Aussie Pulsamatic)
MESSAGE: Unfortunately no. I asked if I could get parts from it, they said no, I would have to take the whole machine. It was only $15 but had rust in the inner washtub, and the rubber pulsator was no better than the one on mine. I would have liked to get the bakelite agitator, but it was not to be.
This was at a pretty prolific recycling centre and I'm hopeful something even better will turn up, such as a higher level model in better condition. We Aussies (at least older ones) seem content to hold on to our older appliances for longer, so although it is a sixties model, I don't think it is THAT rare. I would expect to find others within twelve months for example.
Our local council is soon to have its first EVER kerbside hard garbage pickup. (things move S-L-O-W-L-Y here in the sticks) So with a bit of luck it will be ripe for harvesting. I expect it to happen in the next three months or so.
Didn't US Frigi's have the badge on the front? My mother's late sixties Frigidaire had it (in beige and chrome), and many other washers here had them, including Hoover. I never thought of it as anything special.
Best Wishes
Chris.
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Post# 24950-12/12/2002-09:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: New photos (Hoover brochure)
MESSAGE: Hey Chris,
Thank you for the pictures of the Frigidaire. But I love the Hoover brochure too! I have the Automatic Scrubber Polisher. I had to have that one because I remembered it so well from my youth. And I could have had the Keymatic, but that's a whole different story.
Louis
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Post# 24951-12/12/2002-10:01 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
VIKING
MESSAGE: Checked with my neice, who lives in Canada now (her husband is Canadian) and, indeed, Viking is Canadian.
Also learned from her, today, that TOUQUE is the name for a knitted hat (pronounces TEWK), SO, in case you've ever heard the 12 days of Christmas by Bob & Doug MacKenzie....now you know what a touque is! Let's all throw our touques into the Viking and give it a go, shall we, Eh?
BOB
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Post# 24952-12/12/2002-10:41 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD (color evolution)
MESSAGE: I have to agree with Bob about these machines. Harvest Gold was never a fave with me. My best friends have an entire HG kitchen that they are crazy about, however, so it's all in the eye of the beholder.
I think the whole evolution of color in appliances is interesting. The 50's colors (Sunny Yellow, Turquoiuse, etc) seem so happy and optimimistic. Those gave way to the Harvest Golds and Avacado's of the 60's, which seems a little less playful, to the subdued Almonds of the 80's, and now we have the clinical stainless steel and slate grey.
They're all nice colors, and my thumbnail sketch doesn't do justice to their evolution, but I think it could be an interesting thing to study. What's most ironic is that we had the widest choice of the brightest colors during what is commonly thought of as one of the most uptight decades.
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Post# 24953-12/12/2002-11:37 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
Pentavane or pentaswirl on ebay
MESSAGE: Hello,
I never heard back from cleanteamofny on that kenmore agitator he wanted, so i put it on ebay if anyone wants it =)
Also theres that old radarange nobody claimed. If noone bids on it anyone here can have either item for free just pay for the shipping =)
Thanks,
~Steven
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20714&item=2081166086&rd=1
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Post# 24954-12/12/2002-12:15 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: VIKING
MESSAGE: That's funny. In Dutch we know the word "toque" which is actually a beret or biretta. So I'll throw mine in as well.
Louis
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Post# 24955-12/12/2002-17:04 ||| SHAWN (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD
MESSAGE: I was wondering what brand these were myself.
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Post# 24956-12/12/2002-17:11 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: READING THE FINE PRINT
MESSAGE: They are GE. But they are not the ugliest. I have had a couple of JCPenny sets aroung the same time and they were the the ugliest. Not the colors of course but the console looks so bland. To see a GE with with round knobs and not their neat white switches just seemed so inappropriate. And that side swing door attached with 2 standard hardware hinges, well, it was just so simple. Please. The door doesn't even stop anywhere while being opened like a sideswing Kenmore would. you have to open the door all the way flat. Simple. They do lack a certain GE refinement one comes to expect.
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Post# 24957-12/12/2002-17:28 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: New photos (will I ever get it right?( nice album))
MESSAGE: Nice album but I was wondering do your cats launder well.
Ah- would that be gentle cycle.
I have heard there is a new catnip scented Tide to help lure those hard to launder kitties on laundry day.
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Post# 24958-12/12/2002-18:01 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
POD/ ugly pennys
MESSAGE: When I moved into my first apt. I had to have a new w/d. The only credit card I had was at Penny's. I of course, blindly rushed out and bought the ugliest (ok, at the time, I was young and stupid) set of almond (a stupid color, it can't decide if it's white or brown!) units they had. The washer had the double ag. and the dryer had the exhust sensing termination. I had them delivered and the delivery guy went to plug in the dryer and in his terms: "it went to ground". All I know is that he ended up on his butt. The socket was blown off the wall and the circuit breaker was smoking. That unfortunetly, was the most interesting thing that ever happened with the set. I sold them when I moved to New Orleans. They just didn't have any interest.
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Post# 24959-12/12/2002-19:04 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: New photos (Hoover brochure)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
My mother had a Hoover scrubber polisher too. (the "automatic" one.) And we always had Hoover upright vacs, first a Convertible like the one in the brochure, later a "Starlight", then a "Turbopower Lark". (Later the family changed allegiances, as when I was at Uni I got a part time job selling Electrolux vacs. I wasn't ruthless enough, sold only three in a month including one to my sister, so I gave it up. Mum still has the Electrolux vac that my sister bought.)
In the brochure, I particularly loved the box at the bottom of each page with the technical details of each model (volts, amps, size etc). It has the heading "For The Man Of The House."
On the back page of the leaflet there is one photo of a woman in white lying in bed holding a Hoover appliance, I can't see what it is... is it a hand held fan? is it an electric blanket control? Does it BUZZZZZ? (oh! oh! oh!)
Chris.
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Post# 24960-12/12/2002-19:16 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
the ads for sale post doesn't give you the preview button
MESSAGE: the preview button for the post an ad thing isn't there just wanted to let someone know who to contact to fix it
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Post# 24961-12/12/2002-19:38 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
hoover brouchure
MESSAGE: There's something I'm not understanding...and that is....where is the link for the hoover brochure....I'm not getting it....duh...can someone create the link again...please?
Thanks.
Peas.
BOB
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Post# 24962-12/12/2002-19:42 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
gizmo's link
MESSAGE: link
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst?.dir=/&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst%3f%26.dir=/Hoover%2bFloorcare%2bbrochure%26.src=ph%26.view=t&.view=t
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Post# 24963-12/12/2002-21:10 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: hoover brouchure (I have that!)
MESSAGE: I have the hoover cleaner on the right!
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/vwp?.dir=/Hoover+Floorcare+brochure&.src=ph&.dnm=HFCP8P9.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst%3f%26.dir=/Hoover%2bFloorcare%2bbrochure%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 24964-12/12/2002-21:11 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
gizmo's link
MESSAGE: Thanks. Got it, that time.
What cute pussy cats they are...
BOB
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Post# 24965-12/12/2002-21:45 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD/ ugly pennys (What an odd ad )
MESSAGE: What an odd ad. I had to read it several times before spotted the words "Eaton VIKING" (the all caps Viking is exactly how it appears in the ad). The words appear at the end of the description of both the washer and dryer. Right above the price and model number. I spotted them on the dryer's description first. Once I spotted them I was able to make out the "Viking" name over the dials to the left of the dryer's console. I couldn't make out the name on the washer. Eaton's was (is?) a Canadian department store chain. Viking is a Canadian appliance brand. I suppose that this particular set of Vikings was made for sale by Eaton's. (Kind of sort of Kenmore, but with the Viking name.)
I agree with the posts that speculated that these were made by Hotpoint. The left hinged washer lid and the smooth rotory control knobs practically give it away. Hotpoints were made by GE, so I suppose that they were made by Hotpoint/GE for Viking. The mini-basket is interesting. I don't ever remember seeing that feature on a Hotpoint. I thought that that mini-baskets were exclusive to GE.
The 18 pound capacity claim for the washer dates this pair from the mid-to-late-seventies/early-eighties if I remember my capacity claim history correctly.
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Post# 24966-12/12/2002-21:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: gizmo's link
MESSAGE: Wizard better not get in my washing machine or I'll probably turn it on.
Wizard is THE MEANEST cat I've ever seen. What a psycho! I sure hope this is just because he is a kitten and he'll outgrow it.
Well, I'm just about going crazy waiting to see if tcox got his Frigidaires or not. I'm about to start clawing furniture myself.
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Post# 24967-12/12/2002-22:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Where is everybody? (Hello)
MESSAGE: Jimmyb welcome welcome welcome!!!!
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Post# 24968-12/13/2002-06:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD Norge Scot 12?
MESSAGE: What the heck is that? Is this a solid tub machine? 12lb capacity?
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Post# 24969-12/13/2002-08:12 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT:
POD NORGE
MESSAGE: This machine claims to save an average of about 10 gallons of hot water per load,based on 365 loads per year!Did it have some different kind of washing action allowing it to use less water and detergent?
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Post# 24970-12/13/2002-10:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Norge Scot 12?
MESSAGE: Jason (and hopefully others will chime in) but my guess is this was one of the last solid tub standard capacity machines before they came out with the perforated 14s, 15s, and etc. Maybe around 1962-63?
That ad is from Minneapolis, that's what our gas company used to be called. I never realized they carried Norge.
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Post# 24971-12/13/2002-10:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD NORGE
MESSAGE: It was a solid tub machine. Only the inner tub filled with water instead the whole thing like the perforated tub machines of today.
GEE
Kinda makes you wonder if with all this Energy Star stuff why don't they go back to solid tubs. That would save LOTS of water.
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Post# 24972-12/13/2002-12:00 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD NORGE (MY 2 Cents worth!)
MESSAGE: Hi Boys! I have learned over the past few years that ANY appliance with an energy star rating is a good reason to steer clear of it. KitchenAid now makes dishwashers that don't wash worth a squat...BUT...they have their energy star! The front loaders.......well ......let's not even go there. Three hours to wash a load of towels! Really. Appliance manufacturers need to go back to the old solid tub designs and delete the overflow rinses. With today's detergents, and overflow rinse just isn't necessary. Appliance manufacturers, ARE YOU LISTENING??? Mark
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Post# 24973-12/13/2002-12:16 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD NORGE (MY 2 Cents worth!)
MESSAGE: So how is Norge pronounced?
Is it like "George" or "Fiord"?
Nice looking machine though!
-Alex
(Fort Lauderdale, FL)
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Post# 24974-12/13/2002-12:30 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD NORGE (MY 2 Cents worth!)
MESSAGE: I guess if we want to see a top-loader after 2007 that is not "Calypso" like, then maybe they need to design an outter tub that is in closer relationship to the inner tub, thus saving water or a solid tub like this Norge.
If history repeats itself, we could see all top loaders adopt the "bouncing washplate" method, when the Whirlpool/Kenmore patent expires, just like what happened with the Dual Action Agitator. A dark day in laundry history in my opinion.
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Post# 24975-12/13/2002-12:48 ||| jimmyb (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT:
RE: Where is everybody? (Hello)
MESSAGE: Why thank you! I love the site and look forward to meeting some new people!
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Post# 24976-12/13/2002-12:50 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD (color and price evolution)
MESSAGE: Maybe color evolution followed pricing evolution. Top loader washing machine prices havent changed all that much since the 1950s. To keep this price constant with inflation, the cost of building a machine had to have been cut A LOT. Cutting the weight of the machine also cuts shipping, handling, and delivery costs. Maybe color selections, sculptured chrome control panels, stainless tubs, tub lights, all the things that differentiate a classic from a disposable consumer appliance, cost more than what todays buyers will pay extra for.
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Post# 24977-12/13/2002-16:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD NORGE (MY 2 Cents worth!)
MESSAGE: Only problem with solid-tubs is the capacity. You could probably get a 14lb load into a solid tub machine but compared to the water guzzlers of today (Maytag Atlantis, etc.) with their huge capacities, it probably wouldn't work. I think it could be done but then the manufacturers would have to get creative and that would be too hard and expensive. Let's make plastic parts that hold lots of water so it can break within the next 5 years. That's what they're thinking.
The Frigemores have a decent 45 minute wash cycle and it's tolerable as that matches a typical cycle in the dryer. All the fancy ones that take 3 hours... BLEH!
Still... I'll take the small capacity and fun-to-watch action of a (belt-drive) Kenmore, Kelvinator or Frigidaire anytime, especially Kelvinator.
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Post# 24978-12/13/2002-16:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD NORGE (Rhymes with "
George"
)
MESSAGE: My dad used to pronounce it "Norg" with the 'g' sound instead of the 'j' sound but I figured it was more like "George" than "borg"
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Post# 24979-12/13/2002-16:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Norge Scot 12?
MESSAGE: This is a tough call on this washer, hard to tell exactly without more information. All the service lit. I have from Norge is for older, solid tub machines which I don't believe this is. Although this is only an illustration and not a true photograph, the width of the cabinet and the left opening lid would lead me to think it's not a solid tub washer. Also the model number is very close to one tested by Consumer Reports in 1966 which used only 32 gallons of water total versus the top-rated GE at 44 gals which could account for the savings claims. The puzzling part of this is the "Scot 12" wording, does this mean 12 pounds or is it just a marketing title like the "Mark" series of Whirlpool? Norge introduced their 14lb, perforated basket washer in 1964 but still carried the 10 pound, solid tub washer at least until 1965. I can find no mention of a 12lb washer, perhaps someone with more Norge literature can clear all of this up.
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Post# 24980-12/13/2002-16:24 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Norge Scot 12?
MESSAGE: This could have been a marketing ploy for Norge, in that this machine had an infinite water level control unlike the two or three water levels offered by other manufacturers.....like Frigidaire or Kelvinator. This one looks like it was not a solid tub model. Mark
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Post# 24981-12/13/2002-16:46 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Norge Scot 12? (Norge Scot 12? )
MESSAGE: I don't think this POD was a solid tub Norge
In 1964 I think they moved away from the solid tubs
Also the lid opens to the side. The early Norges before 1964 with solid tubs opened to the back.
Peter
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Post# 24982-12/13/2002-17:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD NORGE (MY 2 Cents worth!)
MESSAGE: The Frigidaire Unimatic with overflow wash and rinse uses only 28 gallons of water for a 9lb load - and in only 28 minutes.
So clean, so quickly, so gently - entirely without harmful rubbing!!
See your Frigidaire dealer today!
;-)
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Post# 24983-12/13/2002-19:04 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
EL-CHEAP-O PINK FABRIC SOFTENER
MESSAGE: Since I'm doin' that Frosting Pink thing up real big in my Imperial Laundry Studio at this time, I decided to buy some of that el-cheap-o store brand PINK fabric softener....it's lovely to look at, and goes with my current theme...I'm just wondering what you fellow think about it..if anything..
I must tell you, normally I prefer Downy FREE, as I have experienced sensitivity of the skin, especially when using some of the highly scented Downy, such as tropical bouquet (P.U.)...
My question is...do you think I'll have any skin sensitivity issues using the cheap pink stuff? Also, in you guy's experience, does the cheap pink stuff work O.K. for controlling static and making the clothes feel nice? I remember years ago (nearly 20) using the pink stuff regularly in my '63 Lady Kenmores (once I owned all three Ladies from that year - washer - dryer - and COMBO)...
Anyway...got 5 washers going right now (everyone except Mr. Monitor) and am using the pink stuff for the first time in years...
Anyone else here use the cheap pink fabric softener?
All my machines say HI to everyone here...
PEACE!
BOB
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Post# 24984-12/13/2002-19:34 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD NORGE (MY 2 Cents worth!)
MESSAGE: There is a real difference between a 1985 GE with its fixed outer tub with room for alot of tub rotation and a whirlpool/kenmore with its outer tub less than an inch from the inner tub. I never realized that until I had a older GE operating with the entire top up. You could put bricks between the tubs back then.
Ah the good old days though. No matter how poorly designed, how impractical, how inefficient, or ugly each of our machines might be, we all have a special place in our lives for these machines.
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Post# 24985-12/13/2002-19:45 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD (color and price evolution)
MESSAGE: Remember cel phones when they came out in the early 80s how big they were and difficult they were to use. Now they truly are disposible. Even dishwashers, now they are just a plastic box with motor you can get at Sears for $125. I'm waiting for refrigerators shipped in flat panels( shelves, sides, doors) --you put together. It would be great though, so easy to move.
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Post# 24986-12/13/2002-20:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD Norge Scot 12?
MESSAGE: Okay my two cents worth. This is a perforated tub machine. It's very VERY similar timer dial to the one Norge I got running Sat. at the warehouse during the convention. (Remember the timer dial was badly bent on the stem). Rich, Jason, & Scott were there. I got it to spin and found the "suds return" area on the timer and y'all got to see it agitate and the tub brake lock into place for agitate. As for the Scot 12, I believe this was a similarly positioned machine to Maytag's Highlander product, value priced. A marketing endeavor.
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Post# 24987-12/13/2002-20:58 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
KEEP FINGERS CROSSED..
MESSAGE: All is going beautifully, so I'm ready to do the first big white load with oxyclean in the Dialmatic (rubber tub bendix washer) again for the first time since it leaked...hopefully, I won't have bad news...if I could 0nly get my computer over closer to the machine,,,I could get the cam over there....is there such a thing as a USB extension cord?..
PEACE
BOB
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Post# 24988-12/13/2002-22:42 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
SWOOSH!
MESSAGE: SEE- Angel spinning atop Frank Sinatra on the 1956 Califone
HEAR - BENDIX DIALMATIC end of extract cycle sound... extract cycle partially abbreviated for video timing, resulting in more heavily moisture laden clothing than usual..but I was able to lift the entire load off the agitator with a single pull!... ENJOY.
HO HO HO
BOB
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/SWOOSH/INDEX.htm
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Post# 24989-12/13/2002-23:01 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
DID I SAY WHITE?
MESSAGE: That's actually grey workout sweatpants & shirts...not white, , in case you notice in the video, they don't appear white....
HO
BOB
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Post# 24990-12/14/2002-07:29 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT:
RE: SWOOSH!
MESSAGE: I haven't heard that sound in almost 40 years since my grandparents moved to town and left the old Bendix on the farm. Grandmother use to wash everything like a wringer and hand wring out each wash load then would rinse and extract. Great memories. She use to let all of us grankids fill the washer with the hose attached to kitchen sink. Glad you got it patched and working.
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Post# 24991-12/14/2002-08:08 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT:
RE: SWOOSH!
MESSAGE: Nothing like a little Frank and SWOOSH to ring in the holidays!
Duane
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Post# 24992-12/14/2002-08:26 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: SWOOSH!
MESSAGE: Dear Bob,
Loved it! I think you wasted your talents lo, this many years on appliance repair! Just great. I have not forgotten about your generous email offer, I will get back to you soon. Please continue the good work!
Tom
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Post# 24993-12/14/2002-08:27 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: EL-CHEAP-O PINK FABRIC SOFTENER (pink fabric softener)
MESSAGE: hi bob....years ago, sta puf was the original pink fabric softener...i find the current fabric softeners are thick and leave buildup in softener dispenser in my maytag...i am back to using the store brand pink stuff and it doesnt have a buildup....ross
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Post# 24994-12/14/2002-08:28 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: SWOOSH!
MESSAGE: Very well said.
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Post# 24995-12/14/2002-08:31 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
Overload POD
MESSAGE: Today's POD was interesting. The washer seems to have an overload reset button. A lot of the vintage units had one. Why? I understand it was a motor protection, but todays models don't seem to need one. Was the problem, the fact that the little lady crammed too much in the unit, or just a factor of state of engineering of the period?
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Post# 24996-12/14/2002-08:32 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
Overload POD
MESSAGE: Today's POD was interesting. The washer seems to have an overload reset button. A lot of the vintage units had one. Why? I understand it was a motor protection, but todays models don't seem to need one. Was the problem, the fact that the little lady crammed too much in the unit, or just a factor of state of engineering of the period?
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Post# 24997-12/14/2002-10:47 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: EL-CHEAP-O PINK FABRIC SOFTENER
MESSAGE: Hi Bob,
I too was forced to switch to the "free" versions of most laundry products because of problems with my skin. Since I have problems with just about every product -- the current version of Tide HE being one of the few exceptions --, I suspect that you'll have problems with the cheap pink stuff too. I don't know for sure. I haven't tried them because I don't want to get burned (literally). Stick to the "free" version. Why take a chance?
Just my two cents.
Mike
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Post# 24998-12/14/2002-10:55 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: EL-CHEAP-O PINK FABRIC SOFTENER
MESSAGE: I had forgotten about StaPuf. Bob I applaud you for sacrificing your body for research! It seems only right to use the "pink vintage stuff" in your cool machines. Good luck.
Tom
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Post# 24999-12/14/2002-12:58 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overload POD
MESSAGE: The button on the Philco POD washer is not an overload button, but in fact the button for the console light. I have a Philco set very similar to todays POD's and lots of Philco sales literature. All Philco's top loaders had a self resetting overload switch, as did most of the washers of that era. Frigidaire was one of the few washers with a re-settable fuse on its console. The Frigidaire's had a fuse mainly because of their heavy current draw at the start of the spin cycle. The RESET switch that appears on many Kenmore/Whirlpool, 60's GE washers, and most PRESSURE fill washers is actually to reset the water lever to a higher amount after the tub had filled to a lower preset level.
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Post# 25000-12/14/2002-15:04 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overload POD
MESSAGE: I knew somone that had a 50"s kenmore in an old house with a very old electric system. The Kenmore worked fine but there new Frigidaire would blow the fuse everytime.
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Post# 25001-12/14/2002-18:44 ||| jimmyb (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT:
RE: EL-CHEAP-O PINK FABRIC SOFTENER
MESSAGE: Bob:
Don't know much about the pink stuff, but can recommend Lavender Sachet in the most beautiful shade and scent of lavender. Living in Phoenix I cannot find it, but when I go back to upstate NY I pick up several bottles at a time. I have steered away from most fabric softeners due to their thickness, which causes buildup in my Asko's.
Jim
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Post# 25002-12/14/2002-19:54 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
LAVENDER SACHET
MESSAGE: My Goodness! I haven't thought of that product in years....
My Grandmother used that when it came out (late 70's - early 80's) and it was her favorite...she always like to overdo it too...so it smelled really STRONG...
So far, no skin reaction to the pink stuff....clothes aren't terribly soft, but they're softer than without...and not too much scent is leftover after drying...plus, it's pretty thin..anyway...none of my antiques feature fabric softener dispensers...and the dispenser in my Equator is self rinsing...I am still using the downy free in that machine, which does all the socks and underwear without having to take them out of the masterbedroom...plus I do towels in the equator, on occasion, and use it to warm towels while Steve or I shower, regularly. A warm towel when you get out of the shower is deluxe..
Thanks for the Lavender Sachet Memory...
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Post# 25003-12/14/2002-21:00 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overload POD (What year?)
MESSAGE: Really COOL machine- what is the approx. year?
Thanks!
Duane
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Post# 25004-12/14/2002-21:05 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: SWOOSH! (SWOOSH!)
MESSAGE: Bob,
This is realy a Great video
Happy Holidays
Peter
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Post# 25005-12/14/2002-21:28 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: LAVENDER SACHET
MESSAGE: Better stock up on that Lavender Sachet softener, Jimmy. It seems to be getting harder and harder to find. Right now I only see it in "city" or "urban" supermarkets with larger elderly or ethnic populations - and even then not a lot of it. I guess it is made by a smaller less competitive company - so may not stand a chance against P&G or Lever.
I don't usually use a softener at all, but I have tried several and I find NuSoft smells pretty agreeable without overkill............
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Post# 25006-12/14/2002-22:05 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: SWOOSH! (USB Extension)
MESSAGE: Yes there is! And it works with webcams because I've tried one at work.
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Post# 25007-12/14/2002-22:10 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: SWOOSH! (Mack truck)
MESSAGE: Was that LOUD noise the washer? I didn't know they were that loud. By the way, cool turntable. I have Bing Crosby's LP on original Decca label and it's beautiful to listen to on my 1978 Dual 604.
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Post# 25008-12/14/2002-22:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: EL-CHEAP-O PINK FABRIC SOFTENER
MESSAGE: We used to use a pink softener from Texize when I was growing up. Sta Puf when it was on sale. When we bought our Kenmore 800, the salesman was SO impressed with all the questions I asked that he couldn't answer that he ended up giving my mom & myself 4 sample bottles of Sta Puf.
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Post# 25009-12/14/2002-22:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RIP 1965 Modern Maid cooktop
MESSAGE: That's right. Ripped right out of the kitchen and I didn't have a chance to take a good picture of it. My dad decided it was time for a new stove so now a shiny black Maytag cooktop sits where a great 1965 coppertone stove proudly sat :-( . Another classic appliance gone to the crusher.
This is just like when the 1967 Kenmore dryer broke. Before I got a chance to get pictures of it, when I came home the next day, it was GONE and a new Frigidaire sits in its place.
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Post# 25010-12/14/2002-23:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: RIP 1965 Modern Maid cooktop
MESSAGE: Jason, I am so sorry. My sympathies to you.
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Post# 25011-12/14/2002-23:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: RIP 1965 Modern Maid cooktop
MESSAGE: Thanks. That was a NASTY shock when I went to my parents house last night and seeing that black stove in the kitchen. And BLACK of all colors. A color associated with DEATH.
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Post# 25012-12/15/2002-00:27 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: RIP 1965 Modern Maid cooktop
MESSAGE: I agree. You have obviously had a hard childhood.
But don't your parents realize now they should at least consult with you before making these kind of appliance related decisions? Ohh, I'm right there with ya.
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Post# 25013-12/15/2002-07:05 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: EL-CHEAP-O PINK FABRIC SOFTENER (pink fabric softener)
MESSAGE: hi jim.....when i lived in new york city, i always used lavender sachet fabric softener but it is not available in california....just the heavy downey and snuggle which leave large build ups....so...i am back to el cheapo, store brand pink fabric softener.....smells just like sta puf and no build up.....sure do miss the lavener sachet....ross roberts
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Post# 25014-12/15/2002-09:17 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
LOUD noise in the Bendix video
MESSAGE: I think part of the reason it sounds so loud in the video is because I had to use a microphone connected to my open reel tape deck, on my Desktop next to my computer, which is on the OPPOSITE side of the basement from the Bendix....so I had the gain turned ALL THE WAY UP on the microphone - the Califone was barely whispering the Frank Sinatra 10" Lp, and, indeed, even I was keeping my voice really low so that you could hear the'big' swooshy sound the Bendix makes...In real life, it's loud, but not 'amplified' loud...and I do think that the sound made by the special water pump on the Bendix is rather unusual, and could be thought of as loud, I suppose...Anyway...that's the normal sounds it makes...
Perhaps, after the holidays, I will be able to more closely position the microphone and the camera to the machine, and, not using any background music or other sounds, will be able to more accurately represent the sights and sounds of the Bendix Dialamatic....I enjoy the video, too, though, and look forward to viewing it in another 30 years or so, when I may not be quite as slim, or agile in my own body or actions....I'm happy with the way the video captures the spirit of BOTH my machine, as well as myself...Thanks, guys, for giving me a place to share the joy.
PEACE.
BOB
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Post# 25015-12/15/2002-10:45 ||| JOESPLACE (col,oh)
SUBJECT:
64 LADYKENMORE WASHER
MESSAGE: GREAT FOR PARTS MODEL #1107204902G SER#C32518646 SEARS BEST, DUEL PUSH BUTTON CONTROL,SLIDE WATER LEVEL, TRIPLE DISPENSER ,VERIFLEX CONTROL ,CONSOLE COVER, W/WIRING SCHAMATIC. NOT SURE ABOUT WORKING COND GREAT FOR PARTS -MAY WORK FINE- HAS BEEN STORED FOR A WHILE-ANY REASONABLE OFFER
Y.GROVE@WORLDNET.ATT.NET
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Post# 25016-12/15/2002-11:01 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: RIP 1965 Modern Maid cooktop
MESSAGE: WHAT were they thinking???
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Post# 25017-12/15/2002-11:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: LAVENDER SACHET
MESSAGE: Wow - I remember always wanting to buy Lavender Sachet in the store as a kid, but we were always a Downy family and there was no further experimentation after the fiasco with Rain Barrel...
Have you tried (if available) the new All fabric softener? It comes in two scents, one compliments their regular scent detergent and I think the other is mountain something or other. All softener has a light scent and is not as "full bodied" as Downy or some others. I have four or five softener choices between the two laundry rooms, but the new All is my favorite. Anyone want a bottle of Tropical Bloom Downy??
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Post# 25018-12/15/2002-11:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overload POD (What year? 1956)
MESSAGE: 1956 Here is a link to the back of the Philco POD...
Philco aquired Avco Manufacturing Company (makers of Bendix and Crosley brands) in 1957 and the brand name was changed to Philco-Bendix. The 1957 laundry line was almost as exciting and beautiful as Frigidaire's control towers. The last photo in this album is a (bad) scan of a Philco-Bendix ad that shows the washers and dryers as well.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Ads+Articles+Brochures&.dnm=56-57+Philco+Philco+Dryer.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 25019-12/15/2002-12:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: RIP 1965 Modern Maid cooktop
MESSAGE: Is this gas or electric? A friend of mine has a mid-60's coppertone cooktop and oven (Hotpoint) that she can't wait to part with. I don't want it, but I'm sure she'll let you have them! What kind of oven did your parents have?
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Post# 25020-12/15/2002-13:42 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overload POD (What year? 1956)
MESSAGE: Did these early Philcos have the Automagic action or did the agitator go back-and forth?
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Post# 25021-12/15/2002-13:44 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
Christmas is coming!
MESSAGE: I'm baking pizzelles using my "Kitchen - Aid" by Hobart model 3B mixer and listening to Bing Crosby on my reel to reel Norelco. All of this is happening in a 1900's victorian and I feel blessed. I truly hope all of you have a wonderous holiday season.
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Post# 25022-12/15/2002-14:34 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
Finished
MESSAGE: All done!!
LINK: http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/u/dumontj/
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Post# 25023-12/15/2002-14:42 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finished (KEWL)
MESSAGE: I saw a set of direct drive electronic LK's in a used appliance store once. they were almond but the controls were similar. I almost bought it but the guy who was selling them was acting like a jerk because I guess he thought it was "weird" to want an old appliance.
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Post# 25024-12/15/2002-14:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finished
MESSAGE: Jason,
Congratulations on the job on the Kenmores, what a smashing looking set. Really glamorous!
Louis
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Post# 25025-12/15/2002-15:37 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finished
MESSAGE: nice job jason, for a second there i thought i was looking at the le belt drive you found and thought sheesh how did he find the matchin dryer so quick =) Nice job enjoyed the bit on how to use acid to dissolve rust.
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Post# 25026-12/15/2002-16:20 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finished
MESSAGE: Thanks Louis.
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Post# 25027-12/15/2002-16:21 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finished (KEWL)
MESSAGE: Sometimes that happens.
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Post# 25028-12/15/2002-16:24 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finished
MESSAGE: You have to use a special acid. It's not really fun to use, but the results are worth it. Especially when you know it will never rust again. Just becareful when you put the acid on a painted part, it will lift the paint slightly, which means more sanding.
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Post# 25029-12/15/2002-17:11 ||| nietch (Oregon)
SUBJECT:
Westinghouse range Type B64-48
MESSAGE: HI. Just found this site. I am looking for a good friend who is redoing his kitchen a la vintage 40s/50s. We just found a great Westinghouse range which is in almost perfect condition. Wow. It does not have a model # but a type #B64-48. Also a Serial #11212713 and a style #1345395. He is hauling it home right now to see how it is going to work. We are curious about the value, of course. We paid $25. Also, it would be fun to see a manual and hear from anyone who has information or comments on this. Thanks.
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Post# 25030-12/15/2002-22:12 ||| jimmyb (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT:
RE: LAVENDER SACHET
MESSAGE: Thanks for the input. I will be sure to double my regular order on this trip back to Rochester, NY for the holidays.
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Post# 25031-12/15/2002-22:18 ||| jimmyb (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT:
RE: LAVENDER SACHET
MESSAGE: I will be sure to try the pink stuff the next time I run out of Lavender Sachet. I never thought of trying it in the past, but with the problems of build up with many of today's fabric softners I am sure I will be soon. My machine gets very angry with the build up and completes the cycle with a fault code (not fun).
Thanks for the info!
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Post# 25032-12/15/2002-22:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overload POD (What year? 1956)
MESSAGE: The early Philcos all had oscillating agitators, the Automagic - flapper style wasn't introduced until the 1959 models.
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Post# 25033-12/15/2002-22:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finished
MESSAGE: Wow - stunning machines Jason, I envy your painting abilities as well!
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Post# 25034-12/15/2002-22:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: RIP 1965 Modern Maid cooktop
MESSAGE: Well, personally, I think black appliances are very sexy.
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Post# 25035-12/15/2002-23:02 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
GE Americana Dispensall Set Found
MESSAGE: Well, sort of a Dispensall anyway. An ad in the Saturday paper for an estate sale mentioned "GE memoribilia" so I went to check it out. There many fun GE logo items, mostly cards, lighters, tape measures, etc. and in the basement was a mid-70's GE Americana washer and matching super-size electric dryer, top of the line all the way, and as luck would have it - Harvest Gold as well! The dispensall system had been removed from under the washer lid, but the lid and smaller plastic lid were still there. Inside, there was a strange detergent dispenser for use with the pre-wash/soak cycle that I'd never seen before. They are open again tomorrow and I'm taking my camera back for another look, they were asking a fortune for them so I'll bet they are still there.
I have been looking for one of these dryers for some time, not in gold and not in electric, but we'll see if we can get a deal on the last day, who knows!
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Post# 25036-12/15/2002-23:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finished
MESSAGE: Very NICE Jason. Very sexy, sleek, and black!!! These are blet drive right? Bob
Or were theese the first of the DD?
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Post# 25037-12/15/2002-23:18 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Overload POD (Whirlpool1983)
MESSAGE: The washer that I have is a 1983 Whirlpool washer. It has three speeds and a magic clean lint filter. Equipped with a Super Surgilator Agitator. I also used a direct drive motor on it. VERY NEAT.
LINK: http://Whirlpool in 1983
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Post# 25038-12/15/2002-23:19 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Americana Dispensall Set Found
MESSAGE: Here is a link to the POD we've seen of the Dispensall washer - it was this exact model - a very pretty machine indeed. Too bad the dispensall system was removed though.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Ads+Articles+Brochures&.dnm=GE+Americana+Dispensall.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 25039-12/15/2002-23:32 ||| Jmathis17 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Americana Dispensall Set Found (Early 90s GE washer )
MESSAGE: I also have a General Eletric washer and a Whirlpool washer. I also play football for Beach High School. My number is 912-354-6410. Ask for Jon Mathis, Jr.
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Post# 25040-12/15/2002-23:42 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finished
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg. After the paint settles down it will get buffed and be like a mirror.
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Post# 25041-12/15/2002-23:44 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finished
MESSAGE: Thanks Bob. It's a DD. The washer will have it's 14th birthday the 7th week of next year and the dryer will have it's 14 b-day on the 18th week.
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Post# 25042-12/15/2002-23:46 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Americana Dispensall Set Found
MESSAGE: Come on Greg, spring for the set.
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Post# 25043-12/15/2002-23:59 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finished (Continuing to speak of Kenmore)
MESSAGE: I was visiting at the home of one of my co-workers a couple days ago, and she has a LK electronic-control dryer, a model that has the touchpads laid out in a linear fashion, similar to Jason's 1986 LE LK washer, maybe it's a match? (but it's white). There's a mechanical switch on the left side, for power on/or or start, I didn't look that close and I'm not intimately familiar with the details of that vintage.
She has a Hotpoint washer, with a spiral agitator.
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Post# 25044-12/16/2002-00:02 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
Vintage washer sighting -- sort of
MESSAGE: I was watching "Ruthless People" a couple days ago. In the scene when Barbara Stone escapes from the basement and comes up to the living room, there's a lamp on a shelf that's made from an agitator, possibly a Coronado.
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Post# 25045-12/16/2002-00:03 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finished (Continuing to speak of Kenmore)
MESSAGE: That would be the match to my 86 Belt Drive. Box it up and send it to me. Black paint can do wonders.
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Post# 25046-12/16/2002-05:50 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Americana Dispensall Set Found
MESSAGE: Greg - I wish I had known about your search for the super size dryer. There was one at a local estate sale last May - the one with the huge door and round opening. It needed a new heating element and I remember they were asking $120. I thought it was way too much but it never sold. I didn't get it and now am sorry!!! But it was so BIG!!!
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Post# 25047-12/16/2002-08:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: GE Americana Dispensall Set Found
MESSAGE: I've wanted one of these in gas for some time now - for the garage dryer. I would like having a large capacity dryer out there and gas would be much cheaper to run. The gas models of these vintage were very powerful as well. I may 'settle' for electric for now - we'll see... They were asking $150 for the washer and $130 for the dryer, if they haven't sold or been bid on, they'll go for 1/2 price today as they are clearing things out to close up the house.
Look for an update later today!
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Post# 25048-12/16/2002-12:18 ||| thegreatfixer (Los Angeles Ca)
SUBJECT:
how do i stop rust
MESSAGE: i rebuild old washers/dryers every day (new-30 years old) these are what i call daily dryers i sell them to large families where they do 2 loads aday when i get one in for a rebuild sometimes they have rust (i have seen maytag washers and ge dryers disintegrate from rust of coarse i paint the insides with rust proof paint ) what can i do control /stop rust in my machines that don't have any rust yet
longest running : i rebuilt an 25 year old Ge washer it runs 5 times aday that was 5 years ago all original repairs since rebuilt: one drive belt
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Post# 25049-12/16/2002-14:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
Acme and other brochures
MESSAGE: Somebody offered some Dutch and German brochures from the fifties recently and I couldn't resist them. I scanned them and put them in my Yahoo album. Click the thumbnails to view them and click the pictures again if you want to see them real large. These are the most interesting ones from Acme, AEG, Erres, Frigidaire, Hoover, Scharpf, Thomas and Viking.
Next project is scanning some Miele brochures from the seventies I bought recently too.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?&.dir=/1950%27s+brochures&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/1950%2527s%2bbrochures%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25050-12/16/2002-14:55 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
I finally got my first classic dryer.........
MESSAGE: This baby is one of the ad that is posted in the POD.
It's an Kenmore Electric Dryer that I brought on E-bay last week and will be bringing it home this weekend.
My father is going to kick me out if I continue to do this!
Oh well, what can I say?
She's just a
Lady Kenmore Electric Dryer.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/vwp?.dir=/Vintage+appliances+found+in+NY&.dnm=Lady+Kenmore+Electric+Dryer.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/vwp%3f.dir=/Vintage%2bappliances%2bfound%2bin%2bNY%26.dnm=POD%2bKenmore.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 25051-12/16/2002-15:03 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finished
MESSAGE: Very nice job man!
I was about to buy that set back in 1995, but I chose the newer version over that and it's the last of the Kenmore lighted control panel.
What a shame!!!
Whirlpool Please bring those bright lighted control panels back!!!!!!
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Post# 25052-12/16/2002-15:22 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: I finally got my first classic dryer.........
MESSAGE: Now only if I can find the matching washer to complete this set......
That would be a good thing!
:-))
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Post# 25053-12/16/2002-15:53 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: I finally got my first classic dryer.........
MESSAGE: wow a 1969 and it still has the "Sears Best" sticker on it. I just love that.
good for you.
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Post# 25054-12/16/2002-16:10 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finished
MESSAGE: look at those babies shine! I have that washer in black but it needs some clean up and I can see there is rust on the main frame underneathe. I hope I can get it looking as great as yours. I need a matching dryer too.
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Post# 25055-12/16/2002-16:28 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finished (Continuing to speak of Kenmore)
MESSAGE: well from what I have found they used the same timer from 79 to 86 but the power switch and the console hood may be different. depends on the year.
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Post# 25056-12/16/2002-16:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: I went back to the sale I saw the GE washer and dryer and they hadn't sold or even been bid on so I offered them $125 for both and brought them home this afternoon. They will need a good cleaning and going over, but look to be in nice shape. The sale company said they used them to wash for the sale and they worked just fine. We'll see. It's a crying shame the Dispensall unit it missing, I looked all over to see if it had been cast aside, but no luck. If anyone comes across one, grab it for me please - it would be so fun to have it all complete.
I haven't had a GE washer since 1981 to play with and this is the top of the line with a mini-basket, so I'm excited. I remember seeing these models in ads and stores when I was young and drooling over them as we had only the bottom of the line GE, so this will be like a 10 year-old's dream come true, 25 years later!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/General+Electric&.src=ph&.dnm=Americana+by+General+Electric.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/General%2bElectric%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25057-12/16/2002-16:40 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Your so lucky!
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Post# 25058-12/16/2002-16:53 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: they are BEEEAAAUUUUUUTiful !!
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Post# 25059-12/16/2002-17:03 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Surgilator Alert!
MESSAGE: I just got two new Surgilators! One came from the washer of my memories, (not the exact one of course but the same model) and the other came from a 1973 Thin Twin! It is so cute! It is only a surgilator and it has the smallest, and cutest little fins! I am so happy! But there is just one problem, The mini Surgilator has some rust stains in the corners where the fins meet the cylinder. :-( How do I remove them? I already tried Zud under my moms recomendation and it didn't do much at all. But otherwise they are both pure white! I will try to post some pics, but it will take a while.
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Post# 25060-12/16/2002-17:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Hey Greg,
Good for you, getting those Americana's. That dryer is really big, how wide is it, 29 inches? I hope you find the Dispensall unit.
Louis
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Post# 25061-12/16/2002-17:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Acme and other brochures
MESSAGE: Very cool Louis! I love the pictures of the agitators and illustrations of the washing actions. On the Viking, is that agitation done with water action? I didn't see an impeller or agitator of any kind and the motor/pump illustration on the back page looks like it may have been just surging water to wash the clothes. Do you have any idea how well this worked? Thanks for the scanning work - very interesting!
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Post# 25062-12/16/2002-17:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: I finally got my first classic dryer.........
MESSAGE: Very nice dryer - does it work well? I love electronic control dryers, enjoy your new machine.
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Post# 25063-12/16/2002-17:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: how do i stop rust
MESSAGE: Make sure you leave the lid open after using a washer so that it can dry out completely. Gas dryers with standing pilot lights are very susceptible to rusting from the inside out. Probably the most important thing you can do is make sure the appliances are installed in a dry environment.
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Post# 25064-12/16/2002-17:29 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Wonderful Greg! A matched set in gleaming harvest gold! I had thought the GE control panel lamps were long gone by then. How exciting! Hope you find a dispenser unit for it. I'm thinking it probably got clogged or messed up over the years. And a minibasket too! I am excited to see this one in person!
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Post# 25065-12/16/2002-17:33 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: WOW, what a HUGE dryer!
Have fun tumbling!!!
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Post# 25066-12/16/2002-17:48 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: Surgilator Alert!
MESSAGE: maybe try soaking the agitators for a day or so with oxyclean. or..
since they are white try putting bleach on the spots and letting them set to "bleach" or ..
try a product called SuperClean available at some automotive stores. Careful its strong. or ..
try paint thinner or ..
using a heavy amount of baking soda and a scrub brush. or ..
any combinations of the above.
Good luck
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Post# 25067-12/16/2002-18:01 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: I finally got my first classic dryer.........
MESSAGE: I know I'll be very excited, once Yahoo lets me in to see the picture!
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Post# 25068-12/16/2002-18:27 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home (That is a cool pair Greg!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
That set looks to be in such great shape for it's age.
My mom had that exact dryer. It was the gas version. She still talks about that dryer, and how she wished that she would have kept it going. It was a very strong dryer, and huge! You could wash two full loads in the washer, and the dryer would dry both loads without a problem, in record time! I remember that towards the end of it's stay with us, it started squeaking. I think it just needed a lube job. (sqeaked from the back while tumbling) My mom got rid of it because the repair person told her that the newer dryers were better. (you never know what you've got till it's gone)
I hope you have lot's of fun with this pair! I have seen the Americana Washers from time to time here in Atlanta. I will keep an eye out for you for the dispenser. How does it come off? Just pop off the bottom of the dispenser lid?
Hope you have lot's of fun with your new toys.
Let us know how you think that straight agitator works with loads.
Thanks for the pictures.
Brent
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Post# 25069-12/16/2002-18:46 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT:
Greg's Glamour Gems, Americana Style
MESSAGE: Greg, your new washers are wonderful. I love a FILTERFLO, my namesake! You almost never see these in a set anymore,and in such good shape. If I remember correctly, there is at least one good Americana Dispensall still in S. Dakota. Maybe I can get it for you in the spring! I want to see those work the way they did when they left the factory......and with a MiniBasket! Im so happy for you........
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Post# 25070-12/16/2002-18:56 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
Show me a picture of the 1973 Whirlpool THIN TWIN.
MESSAGE: e-mail me some pictures of this thin twin washer and dryer.
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Post# 25071-12/16/2002-19:01 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
GE MINI BASKET
MESSAGE: The mini basket idea always made sense to me. I remember washing a fav shirt or sweater for a date in it. Have TL's become so well engineenered that there is no need for it anymore? Of course, I can't think of any current ones with a recycle pump set up like a filter flow, but if it was good enough then it should be good enough now!
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Post# 25072-12/16/2002-19:21 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Wow, that's very damn nice! Love the detergent dispenser. Is it a normal part of the Dispensall system, or an alternative that somebody added later, when the Dispensall was removed? What's the story on what looks like a bleach funnel at the left corner? Did the Dispensall system somehow divert the bleach into it at the proper moment during the cycle?
Interesting that the dryer has pushbuttons for temp/fabric selection and the washer has toggle switches. Seems like the washer would have had pushbuttons for programmed fabric selections -- but the toggles are more flexible.
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Post# 25073-12/16/2002-19:35 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Show me a picture of the 1973 Whirlpool THIN TWIN. (CRUNCH!)
MESSAGE: I really wish that I could, but it got sent to the krusher on Sunday against my wishes. But I did Salvage all that I could! Even though it is only the agitator and dryer timer knob it still is a lot better than nothing! Everthing else was glued or rusted, YUCK! It wasn't in good shape at all. Those two were the only things not destroyed and then sent to the krusher. I am extremely sorry. :-(
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Post# 25074-12/16/2002-19:52 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: YAY!!!!!
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Post# 25075-12/16/2002-19:56 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: There is an electronic gas version of this dryer over here. I'm supposed to go get it, but I'm not in that big of a rush.
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Post# 25076-12/16/2002-20:53 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Truly magnificent and show GE at its peak. How I wish I still had my mini basket GE. The splashing, thumping and banging - what a way to wash!!!
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Post# 25077-12/16/2002-21:01 ||| Syndets2000 (Nanjemoy, Md)
SUBJECT:
American Dream( TV SHOW)
MESSAGE: I saw just a little bit of this on the TV last night-Does the Father sell appliances? If it is fall of 1963, what vintage were the Maytags displayed? They look like 70's vintage.
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Post# 25078-12/16/2002-21:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Greg's Glamour Gems, Americana Style
MESSAGE: I FINALLY get to see a mini-basket in action! Yay!
Jimmy - I thought about that Dispensall on the farm as soon as I saw this one was missing! I looked all over for the unit in the house today - the trash was in clear bags (required by city collection) in the garage so I pawed all around the pile but found no tank unit there. I too, would love to see the dispensing system working as from the factory, I'll bet it was very neat.
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Post# 25079-12/16/2002-21:08 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Easy Whirldry for Sale!
MESSAGE: There is an Easy Whirldry for sale, looks like it could use some work. Seller says that it run fine.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2082316463&category=20714
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Post# 25080-12/16/2002-21:13 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: There is a little grill piece that goes over the hole where on a typical GE there would just be a "bleach dispenser". When you pour the bleach into the dispensall it goes through the dispensall, into the grill and into a pocket reservoir where an electric solenoid releases the bleach at just the right time.
Lovely toy, everyone should get one for Christmas!
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Post# 25081-12/16/2002-21:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home (That is a cool pair Greg!)
MESSAGE: I think John Lefever told me that the gas model of this dryer had a 27,000 btu burner in it - which is why I wanted the gas version. The electric is 5500 watts.
The dispenser "tray or tank" as called in the instruction book (I have all the literature too) comes off with a thumb screw at the top of the open lid and then just lifts out of channels at the bottom - quite simple really.
I probably won't have time to play with them for a few days, too much work to do and not enough time to get it all done it seems. We had the straight vaned agitator in our BOL machine when I was little, so it will be familiar, but fun to compare to others now too.
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Post# 25082-12/16/2002-21:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Oooooooh, what color is it????
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Post# 25083-12/16/2002-21:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Right on both counts. The detergent dispenser looks to be some sort of accessory added after the dispensall unit was removed. I think it looks like a fun contraption and I may have to do a spin before every wash just to watch it! The bleach dispenser was simply a container and funnel to the left corner of the opening where it was again funneled into the outer tub as with other models.
I'm glad this has the toggle switches, far more flexible than the programmed buttons. I will have to dig through my GE books and see if I have the repair manual for this machine - I think I do. I'm curious about how much water it uses in a Normal cycle on extra-large water setting, I'll bet it's a guzzler!
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Post# 25084-12/16/2002-21:47 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Your favorite, gold.
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Post# 25085-12/16/2002-22:09 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home (Santa came early!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, I am so happy that Santa made an early visit to your house this year. That is a beautiful set. I love the full top console light, so elegant looking. That mini basket looks like it would be fun to use too. Are you going to at least be trying these out soon? Have fun!!
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Post# 25086-12/16/2002-22:42 ||| jimmyb (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Greg:
A big congrats on the new members of your family. I wish you the best in finding the dispensall. Also thanks for your recomendation an the All fabric softner, I may have to give it a try. My last responce to your reply (Lavender Sachet)probably made no sense at all, especially since you did not mention anything about the store brand pink softner. Oh well it was a long day and I was?????
Congrats again, and I am sooooooo glad that I stumbled on this site.
I love it! I love it!! I love it!!!
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Post# 25087-12/16/2002-22:45 ||| jimmyb (Phoenix, AZ)
SUBJECT:
RE: American Dream( TV SHOW)
MESSAGE: I have been watching the show as well, the father does own an appliance store. if we could just have all of those appliances available to us now (brand new). I would be like a kid in a candy store!
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Post# 25088-12/16/2002-23:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home (what about the Land Of Rust?)
MESSAGE: But did Santa bring those avocado 1-18s to the Land Of Rust? Todd? Did he pack a Kenmore 800 or a Kelvinator on his sleigh for me? Here's hopin.
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Post# 25089-12/16/2002-23:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: I finally got my first classic dryer.........
MESSAGE: Larry congratulations!!! It's beautiful. Hang in there with yoyur dad. We're all behind you 1000%.
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Post# 25090-12/17/2002-00:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Greg, a beautiful st. Makes me kinda home sick for my 1978 pair. I may just have to get out the literature from them and go down memory lane. The activator & mini basket looked just like mine. Be prepared for the incidious 2 minute continuous dryer buzzer at the end of the cycles. Now THAT may get Jack up and goin' on those lazy Saturday mornings when all he wants to do is lie around. And the press care on adds another 2 minutes to that initial buzz. My dryer was electronic dry control, but the delicate cycle was only timed dry. Also, instead of heavy normal and delicate cycle settings on the dryer, mine & my mom's had heavy, normal, and light. I still may have the dryer rack around here somewhere. It looked like a shoe rack that hooked onto the holes in the door. I wonder if the filter-flo will deal any bertter with dog hair than the unimatic overflor rinse.
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Post# 25091-12/17/2002-00:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Well, the diameter of that dryer is is big. But it's depth isnt' all that great. When I got my 1986 LK, the dryer drum was larger than that GE dryer. It held more.
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Post# 25092-12/17/2002-00:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home (That is a cool pair Greg! gas dryer)
MESSAGE: Brent, my mom's LEAST favorite gas dryer was the GE electronic control gas dryer from 1978. It took the longest to dry of any of the ones she had. The 1950s Norge TimeLine, the 1964 Wrinkle-Out Norge Dryer, the 1978 GE dryer, and finally the 1995 Maytag Dependable Care dryer like mine. In fact, she liked the 1975 Kenmore 70 dryer at the lake house the best. Of the 3 dryers I have had, all electric, the GE was the slowest and the hottest. And it didn't have air vent obstruction, vent went right out the back straight out the house.
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Post# 25093-12/17/2002-00:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Glenn, the lower-end models dryers had toggle switches, but the higher-end ones always had the push buttons. The washers had toggles. My washer had toggles and the dryer buttons. The next model up had the programmed push buttons, I didn't want that, it didn't o did ffer the 2nd rinse option like my model did.
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Post# 25094-12/17/2002-00:29 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Greg's Glamour Gems, Americana Style
MESSAGE: Yes, mini baskets are fun. But poor rinsing--spray rinse doesn't get in there. I believe the lid had to be down for the dispensal system to properly work, bummer.
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Post# 25095-12/17/2002-00:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home (That is a cool pair Greg!)
MESSAGE: Greg, I'll be curious to see if the cool down for the Perm Press/Poly Knit cycle was the extended spin spray or did the partial drain and refill like on mine. The timer looks more like it's the former than the latter. I believe my arrangement was a rarity that lasted only a year or two in the GE line-up. Friends bought my same model washer in 1980 and it had the long spray rinse for cool down. In fact my mom's model was the one right down from mine & the programmed model above it both had the long spray rinse for cool-down. Wierd.
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Post# 25096-12/17/2002-00:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: I'll be curious too Greg. My literawture doesn't say how much water it used on full water level. And it didn't hold as much as the eventual Shredmore that replaced the GE.
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Post# 25097-12/17/2002-00:38 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Bob, did the GE pair stay in Houston when you moved?
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Post# 25098-12/17/2002-00:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home (That is a cool pair Greg! gas dryer)
MESSAGE: What was her most and least favorite washer?
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Post# 25099-12/17/2002-00:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: I finally got my first classic dryer.........
MESSAGE: Great dryer! I finally got in a roundabout way so I could see your picture. Now, you can get together with Jane Wyatt and compare notes on dryer performance! Now, for the matching LK washer! The Ladys with their program selector/turn the dial to the stop and the alphabet washers are my favorite of the Sears machines.
Does anyone know if Whirlpool ever used alphabet on their washers? I know they did on their dishwashers.
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Post# 25100-12/17/2002-02:56 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Acme and other brochures (Viking washaction)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg,
Yes, the Viking uses water action for agitation. It has a powerful pump that pulls the water from the basket and pumps it back in through three injectors. The flow was 300 litres per minute (almost 80 gallons per minute) so this was real live water action I bet. I don't know how well this worked (although I can imagine), I've never seen one myself and never heard about somebody owning one.
Louis
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Post# 25101-12/17/2002-03:10 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: I finally got my first classic dryer.........
MESSAGE: I've never seen a Whirlpool alphabet washer, but that's not to say they don't exist. The 1964 Mark XII that Tom (I think it was) contributed to John's warehouse gathering had a pushbutton/locking timer, but no alphabet. The buttons were numbered to match the legend on the lid instructions. Same for the Whirlpool combo at the warehouse -- pushbutton timer, with numbered buttons to match a legend on the console, but no corresponding numbers on the timer.
1964 Mark XII timer
1964 Mark XII lid
Whirlpool combo cycle legend
Whirlpool combo timer
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Post# 25102-12/17/2002-04:45 ||| mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Acme and other brochures
MESSAGE: Thanks Louis, I really enjoyed reading them and I look forward to the Meile ones. I don't think they ever made one of the Hoover spinner/rinser machines in Australia. Looks like the Hoovermatic Twin tub cut in half.
Greg
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Post# 25103-12/17/2002-05:31 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Acme and other brochures (Hoover Spinarinse)
MESSAGE: Hey Greg,
The Spinarinse was sort of a half twintub, but I don't know which appeared first on the market, the washer and the spinarinse or the twintub. There is an ad on the Twintubemporium that shows the same Spinarinse.
I'm scanning one of the Miele brochures right now.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/twintubemporium/vwp?.dir=/The+Way+We+Were...&.src=gr&.dnm=Hoover%27s+Line+in+61.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/twintubemporium/lst%3f%26.dir=/The%2bWay%2bWe%2bWere...%26.src=gr%26.view=t
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Post# 25104-12/17/2002-07:23 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
Still Waiting ...
MESSAGE: Jason, still have not gotten "the green team". Those 1-18's are sure taking a long time to get here ... next time we're gonna take a road trip and pick whatever we get.
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Post# 25105-12/17/2002-08:19 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Acme and other brochures (Viking washaction)
MESSAGE: Yikes......, that is what we call today, ``Catalyst Cleaning Action!"
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Post# 25106-12/17/2002-08:26 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
FIRST DRYER/ AMERICANA'S
MESSAGE: That Lady Kenmore dryer with the Sears Best sticker is EXACTLY like my Mother's dryer...except hers is Avocado...I may inherit it some day..also I think John LeFever may still have one of those too....it is the BEST dryer type...I really dig it...quite satisfactory to use..
Greg...I worked on some of those big GE Americana's back in the day when I was a serviceman full time (in the 80's, when they were breaking)...and I seem to remember that the BIG GE dryers had a FELT seal around the heat shroud that was stapled on, and fell of easily, making the dryer eternally slow to dry...is that this model? If so, that's an area you might want to beef up somehow...as I recall....same rear bearing assembly as the standard drum....front slides are shaped differently, but of the same slider type...
I don't remember EVER working on a dispensal lid, and only ever saw one or two...that IS rare and will be fun to see work.
Very cool machines, though a little new for my taste..very cool, none the less..I'm glad they're in a good home. THAT makes all the difference.
Greg..How MANY washers and dryers do you have now.??
PEACE.
BOB
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Post# 25107-12/17/2002-08:26 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: I finally got my first classic dryer.........
MESSAGE: What is needed on today's washer is a manual selection just like on the Mark XII timer!
I like to wash as long as I want with variable speed and full control of the spin time!
This would be nice if Kenmore/Whirlpool would integrate them into their TOL computer control panel machines!
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Post# 25108-12/17/2002-10:27 ||| deeptub (Carbondale, IL)
SUBJECT:
Maytag Washers
MESSAGE: I looked at Maytag's website today and noticed that the "old-style" Maytag washer (the ones known as the Dependable Care machines when the Atlantis came out, and more recently, the L series of the Performa line)are now simply known as Maytag Washers, "...built tough and gentle on clothes". I'm glad to see that that machine is no longer associated with the Performa name and those wretched Magic Chefs. I wonder when they will cease production of this style machine. Doesn't the basic design go back to c. 1958?
Anyway, they also now have pictures of the redesigned Atlantis and the somewhat retro controls someone mentioned here a month ago or so.
Tom
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Post# 25109-12/17/2002-10:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: FIRST DRYER/ AMERICANA'S
MESSAGE: Bob, does/did your mom ever own the matching Lady Kenmore washer?
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Post# 25110-12/17/2002-10:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: I finally got my first classic dryer.........
MESSAGE: I remember seeing that machine Glenn, thanks for posting those pictures. I did not realize the Mark XII was a 3 speed machine. Interestingly for such a high end machine, it has no temperature stepdown switch or optional second rinse. I would be interested to know what the "low agitate" button is for. It seems to me the speeds are built into the programs.
I would be interested to know why machines of this vintage default to hot water for perm. press (wash n wear). There must have been something different in the makeup of those items, as today we would normally wash them in warm. If you want warm, you only get a 4 minute wash.
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Post# 25111-12/17/2002-10:53 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers
MESSAGE: I hope never. They should keep this and maybe the Atlantis line if it is popular, and drop the old Magic Chef style. With all the cost cutting measures that have gone on in the appliance industry, it boggles the mind that this company would run 3 separate distinctive lines of laundry equipment. 4 now, counting the frontloaders. I can think of no one else that does such a thing.
I was told once that it was for competitive/economic reasons that Maytag made all those changes and moved away from their focus strictly on laundry and dishwashers. I've never been a huge fan of the brand though I am happy with our current Maytag kitchen appliances that came with the house, but I've always been surprised that they ever tampered with their laundry design (ie, that they didn't just add ranges, fridges, and etc and still offer the same washers and dryers they always had.
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Post# 25112-12/17/2002-11:32 ||| deeptub (Carbondale, IL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Corporate Brands :P)
MESSAGE: I agree. When all of our favorite makes became "corporate brands" through various acquisitions, Maytag got Magic Chef for ranges and Admiral for refrigerators--hardly class-leaders in performance or durability. I think it diluted the Maytag name, and now it seems to be recognized as "pretty good", rather than the rock-solid investment a Maytag washer and dryer used to be thought of (regardless of their actual washing/drying abilities). Oh well, I guess they felt they needed a full-line to be competitive with GE, Kenmore, Whirlpool, and the mindset of so many consumers that all their machines be of the same brand (to many consumers' dismay as the years pass...).
T.
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Post# 25113-12/17/2002-12:28 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: I finally got my first classic dryer.........
MESSAGE: The "low agitate" button probably overrides the programmed speed on any cycle.
Hot wash for perm press was probably recommended back then to properly relax the fabric for shedding wrinkles -- except for delicate perm press fabrics.
I didn't notice until you mentioned it that there is no provision for overriding the programmed temperatures, as there might would be for cold wash/rinse in any cycle on a TOL Kenmore. Cold water wash is available, but it is a separate button with a specific programmed wash time. I suppose one could let the machine fill in a cycle with the desired temperature (warm or cold), then reset the timer for a different cycle with a longer wash time and push the cold cycle button again after restarting it (to insure a cold rinse) -- the water level switch would already be satisfied.
The "manual" button seems to be of limited use, with there being very little cycle markings on the timer -- only a REAL dial-pusher would be able to figure out the timer increments!
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Post# 25114-12/17/2002-12:35 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Still Waiting ... (:-()
MESSAGE: AGH! I hope you get them before Christmas. I have almost a full basket of clothes just itchin' to be Jet Coned.
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Post# 25115-12/17/2002-15:27 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
Maytag Washers
MESSAGE: Go out to Home Depot and take a look at the Maytag DEPENDABLE CARE washer that has a STAINLESS STEEL wash tub and a SUPER CAPACITY that holds 16 bath towels.
Thanks,
Chris
LINK: http://www.homedepot.com
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Post# 25116-12/17/2002-15:28 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
Maytag Washers
MESSAGE: Go out to Home Depot and take a look at the Maytag DEPENDABLE CARE washer that has a STAINLESS STEEL wash tub and a SUPER CAPACITY that holds 16 bath towels.
Thanks,
Chris
LINK: http://www.homedepot.com
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Post# 25117-12/17/2002-15:29 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
Maytag Washers
MESSAGE: Go out to Home Depot and take a look at the Maytag DEPENDABLE CARE washer that has a STAINLESS STEEL wash tub and a SUPER CAPACITY that holds 16 bath towels.
Thanks,
Chris
LINK: http://www.homedepot.com
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Post# 25118-12/17/2002-15:53 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
GE Washers
MESSAGE: Did you see the new GE washer with a KING SIZE CAPACITY PLUS wash tub?
Chris
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Post# 25119-12/17/2002-16:00 ||| Ccarter22 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Maytag )
MESSAGE: I love to, but I can't afford to.
Cornelius
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Post# 25120-12/17/2002-16:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers
MESSAGE: Where on the site would that be? Your link went to a generic Home Depot page, and all I find for appliances is parts and hoses and stuff. Thanks!
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Post# 25121-12/17/2002-16:34 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Orbital "
dependable care"
tranny)
MESSAGE: Today, so-called "dependable care" transmission is the orbital tranny that took the place of the tried and true tranny in the late 80's. This is a short, fast stroke agitation tranny. It is also the tranny they use in the coin-op washers. Since they haven't put the Norge decendant tranny in a smaller capacity wash tub, you will continue to see this in the coin-op line at least.
Scott: 4 washer types? I only count 3: orbital tranny, Norge decendant, and Neptune...
-ph
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Post# 25122-12/17/2002-16:39 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: A wonderful set! But that poor, impotent straight van agitator! This one will be interesting to see! Congrats!
-ph
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Post# 25123-12/17/2002-16:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: I finally got my first classic dryer.........
MESSAGE: A definite beauty! Hope you ca find the matching washer!
-ph
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Post# 25124-12/17/2002-16:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Orbital )
MESSAGE: Well, I counted the old Magic Chef Performas as separate from the Atlantis. They are different aren't they? Or if not, how is it they can charge hundreds more for the Atlantis?
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Post# 25125-12/17/2002-17:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: FIRST DRYER/ AMERICANA'S
MESSAGE: Hi Bob- I haven't looked inside the washer or dryer yet - no time this week, but thanks for the heads-up on the seal issue, I'll watch for that. Unfortunately, the dispensall unit is missing from under the lid and finding another may be tricky at best. These are a little new for me too, but I couldn't resist the top of the line GE, the last of real style for them and the dispensall system is very rare - even if not complete - yet. Currently, I have 16 washers, 8 dryers, 2 built-in ovens and cooktop in pink, the 58 Frigidaire range in the kitchen, 2 Kitchen Aid dishwashers, my Asko dishwasher and 3 refrigerators (and a partridge in a pear tree!) Not all are restored and operational, I could retire now and never run out of things to do! I should update my profile list soon.
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Post# 25126-12/17/2002-17:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: I've never seen the straight vane in a large capacity machine - we had standard cap. with the straight vanes and it turned over quite well, not as dramatic as the spiral version, but it did a fine job all in all.
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Post# 25127-12/17/2002-17:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Acme and other brochures (Viking washaction)
MESSAGE: Except this one filled with water - much different. I would think the Viking tangled the clothes nice and fast!
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Post# 25128-12/17/2002-22:17 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
Whirlpool Commercial Laundry Equipment
MESSAGE: Have you done any videos on these machines yet?
Chris
LINK: http://coinop.com
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Post# 25129-12/17/2002-22:24 ||| cCARTER22 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Milnor FL)
MESSAGE: Go to www.milnor.com and check out the Milnor front-loaders. coin-operated and on premise lines. They also have an open pocket washer.
May find many of them in one of the laundromats.
LINK: http://www.milnor.com
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Post# 25130-12/17/2002-22:27 ||| cCARTER22 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Orbital )
MESSAGE: Get some videos of them and put them in the museum with the Maytag washers. Including the Whirlpool commercial TLs.
LINK: http://classicappliances.com
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Post# 25131-12/17/2002-22:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Orbital - NOT classic)
MESSAGE: Sorry guys, these are much to new of machines to be included in the museum, or on this discussion board really. Our focus is "classic" or vintage appliances, much discussion has been had of late on the definition of classic or vintage, but in the past, the members have agreed to roughly 20 years or older (give or take a few years here and there and of course some comparison of vintage and new machines now and then) There are lots of forums on the web to discuss newer and present appliance offerings, here though, we stick to the classics.
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Post# 25132-12/18/2002-00:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: No , they moved with me to Temple and were in the house from January 86 until October 16, 1986 when the LKs arrived.
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Post# 25133-12/18/2002-00:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home (That is a cool pair Greg! gas dryer)
MESSAGE: Her most favorite washer was the Maytag Dependable Care bought in January 1995 or 1996. Her least favorite was her first, the 1948 or 1949 Bendix. She's recently comment the one thing she misses in the retirement apartment center is her Maytags.
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Post# 25134-12/18/2002-01:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Did you have problems, or did you just decide you wanted a different pair?
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Post# 25135-12/18/2002-01:17 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: hmmm...something just popped into my mind...so, your 1986 set was referred to as a "Lady Kenmore", even though it had mechanical controls? I had thought (in error I guess!) that by that time that title was reserved only for the electronic touchpad units.
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Post# 25136-12/18/2002-05:14 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers
MESSAGE: Same here. Was that supposed to be helpful?
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Post# 25137-12/18/2002-05:17 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Orbital )
MESSAGE: Let's not forget the Amana line that Maytag has just absorbed. Also, would the Norge and Magic Chef lines be related descendants? That would give us 5 - Dependable Care, Atlantis, Performa, Neptune and Amana design, no???
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Post# 25138-12/18/2002-05:22 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
1973-1974 Miele household appliances brochure
MESSAGE: I scanned the Miele brochure for 1973 and 1974 and put it in my Yahoo album. All the household appliances were presented in this brochure. 1973 was an important year for Miele because they changed to a new line of washers and dryers. This brochure shows both types, the old ones with the rear controls (the Speed Queen lookalikes) and the new ones with the controls on the front. The front control models still had a soap dispenser on top, in 1975 models with a soapdispenser on the front were launched in addition to the 441 model that is already in this brochure.
I have the 75-76 brochure too, I'll scan that soon too.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?&.dir=/1973-1974+Miele+brochure&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/1973-1974%2bMiele%2bbrochure%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25139-12/18/2002-05:26 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: The straight vanes were available in all GE machines throughout the 70's. I don't recall seeing the curved vanes until 1980 or so. I also remember that GE always earned high marks from Consumer Reports for washing ability throughout the 60's and 70's (I believe they said "among the best in washing ability"), possibly because the vanes went up the whole activator - as opposed to the vanes on the old Maytag that were really only at the bottom. Greg, you can have a real old fashioned suds fest with that machine. Between the recirculating water on the filter flo, the straight vaned activator and the fast stroke - you can whip up all kinds of fun!!! Only problem is that you will not get a nice "bubble cake" design - but a wet overflow onto the floor! In fact I think Consumer Reports always recommended low sudsing detergents for GE machines.
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Post# 25140-12/18/2002-05:58 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1973-1974 Miele household appliances brochure (Thanks Louis!)
MESSAGE: Louis,
Thanks for loading brochure's. They are great. I am very impressed with the looks of those machines. They also look so much bigger than the Miele's of today.
Have you ever used any of the Miele's from that period? If so, what did you think about them? Also, how did they hold up over time? Do many people still have these machines up and running?
Brent
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Post# 25141-12/18/2002-06:13 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1973-1974 Miele household appliances brochure (Thanks Louis!)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent,
Actually the old Mieles had almost the same size as the Miele's of today. Actually the ones that were introduced in that brochure were exactly the same size. The older ones with the rear controls were very sturdy machines, there are still many of them around, now and then I see them for sale. I would love to have a pair, especially the pair in the top picture of this page. Problems are space, the fact that they are awfully heavy )the 421S is 126kg/277lbs) and the fact that some of these washers connect to 380V three phase because they have a 6000 Watts heating element.
The 412/416 was one of the most sold washers back then, I bet that in the neighbourhood I was brought up there still must be a few. I never used one of those, but my mother bought a Miele in 1976 which is in the brochure I will scan next. She had it for over 21 years.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/1973-1974+Miele+brochure&.dnm=Miele73-13.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 25142-12/18/2002-06:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1973-1974 Miele household appliances brochure
MESSAGE: That is very cool - again, thank you! I love the pictures of the washer and dryer with the controls at the rear - similar to the one you found on ebay a while ago. It's interesting to see the size of the machines too, in picture 13 of your album, the woman folding clothes from the dryer is either a giant or those machines are smaller than they appear in the other pictures!
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Post# 25143-12/18/2002-06:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Milnor FL)
MESSAGE: My mom used to work for a dry cleaner/laundromat in the late 70s and I spent many summer days watching the Milnor front loaders and the 73 belt drive Kenmores.
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Post# 25144-12/18/2002-06:46 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1973-1974 Miele household appliances brochure (My favorite Pair also!)
MESSAGE: Louis,
When I was looking at the pictures, I thought that that pair was also the best looking. I also remember the one that was on eBay. Was that about the same year? Man, that is lot's of power that went to that unit. I bet that it would do an amazing "Boil Wash" in record time!
You compaired them to the looks of Speed Queen? I also think that the control panel color and style kinda look like the Kenmore top loaders from that period.
Brent
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Post# 25145-12/18/2002-06:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: I remember over-sudsing in our GE straight vane model that would ooze out around the lid and down the front of the washer. Usually we used Dash for that washer, but if Cheer was on sale, we had suds!
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Post# 25146-12/18/2002-06:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1973-1974 Miele household appliances brochure (The 70s!)
MESSAGE: Ya just gotta love 60s-70s design.
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Post# 25147-12/18/2002-07:18 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT:
Today's POD
MESSAGE: The round Bendix is the one that I have. Can someone tell me the exact year of that machine? Thank you.
Ross Roberts
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Post# 25148-12/18/2002-08:36 ||| Joegiovannelli (New York, N.Y.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: Hello Rick,
I just purchased a vacation home in upstate New York. House was built in 1967, Kitchen re-done in the early Eighties. Kitchen has a Nutone food center unit. It works, but we were left with an odd mix of attachments.
I just found this site and your item doing a Nutone search. If I'm not too late, are you still looking to divest? (including the shelves?)
Good luck on the kitchen...
Joe Giovannelli
New York University
jg102@nyu.edu
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Post# 25149-12/18/2002-09:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1973-1974 Miele household appliances brochure
MESSAGE: These machines aren't really that big. Giving them each a whole page in the brochure make them look quite big, but you can see they're actually as high as the counters (around 34 inches). The capacity was a bit smaller than the Mieles of today. They held 10lbs of laundry.
Louis
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Post# 25150-12/18/2002-09:51 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1973-1974 Miele household appliances brochure (My favorite Pair also!)
MESSAGE: Brent,
Yes, that was almost the same model. These models had a few modifications over the years, but you could hardly see it from the outside. Major changes on the 421S was a change from a square to a round little window for the timer beside the cycle selector and the later models (like in the brochure) had an electric dooropener while the older models had a handle on the door.
Actually some other members of the club said that this machine looked like a Speed Queen when I posted a picture of a similar one quite a while ago. Let's say that particular Miele is the most American looking.
Louis
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Post# 25151-12/18/2002-09:52 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1973-1974 Miele household appliances brochure (The 70s!)
MESSAGE: Thank you Jason! And there is more to come!
Louis
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Post# 25152-12/18/2002-12:33 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Does anyone know why GE went from the spiral agitator to straight (and back again)? Sounds like the spiral design is a much better deal.
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Post# 25153-12/18/2002-12:35 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Milnor FL)
MESSAGE: Wow, I had not realized that the Sears coinop washers went that far back.
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Post# 25154-12/18/2002-13:12 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
Sears coinop washers
MESSAGE: Put them in the Appliance Museum with the Kenmore washers.
Put Whirlpool coinop (belt-drive) washers in the Whirlpool Museum as well.
THanks!
Chris
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Post# 25155-12/18/2002-13:15 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
GE coinop washers (older style in 1978)
MESSAGE: Put these coinop washers in the GE museum with some videos.
Thanks!
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Post# 25156-12/18/2002-13:51 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
My sisters future Washing Machine
MESSAGE: This thing is huge! It holds 93 cubic feet of Laundry! My sister, judging by how much laundry she makes might need two of these!
LINK: http://www.milnor.com/modeldetails0.asp?category=1&class=5&series=21&model=49
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Post# 25157-12/18/2002-14:08 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: My sisters future Washing Machine
MESSAGE: A washer just for Appnut!!
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Post# 25158-12/18/2002-14:15 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
2 MILNORS
MESSAGE: Just this past weekend I saw 2 of those big triple loader Milnors setting outside an older laundromat....just outside the beltway.....Maybe John LeFever would like those for his warehouse collection...I'd love to have one, but where would I put it?
BOB
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Post# 25159-12/18/2002-14:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: My sisters future Washing Machine (BIG washers)
MESSAGE: If anyone is interested, the world congress of drycleaners and launderers will be having their annual show in Las Vegas, August 11-14. If you want to see really BIG WASHERS, learn about tunnel washers, talk to reps from Whirlpool and GE, and meet both Maytag repairmen, then you really will want to attend Clean '03.
-ph
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Post# 25160-12/18/2002-15:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: 2 MILNORS
MESSAGE: Dang. I'd take one but I live too far away and it wouldn't fit in this hea traila.
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Post# 25161-12/18/2002-16:34 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Milnor FL (Scott55405))
MESSAGE: Well Actually Scott:
Sears has been making "coin ops" ever since about the late 1960's at the very least. I have saw several of them still in operation way back in 1986, when I was vacationing in Texas.
--Charles--
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Post# 25162-12/18/2002-17:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's POD
MESSAGE: Hi Ross - these Bendix designs were introduced before WWII, but production stopped for war efforts and resumed after after 1945. I have one of these same washers manufactured in 1947. If you take a look at some of the components inside, solenoids, if still orginal parts, are date stamped.
Here's a picture of mine. I restored this and used it for a while, it's a fun machine. Is yours working?
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Bendix&.dnm=1947+Bendix+Standard.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp%3f.dir=/Bendix%26.dnm=47%2bStandard%2binside.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 25163-12/18/2002-17:52 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Milnor FL (Scott55405))
MESSAGE: Speaking of coinops, take a glance at these large coinop Milnor FLs.
LINK: http://www.milnor.com
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Post# 25164-12/18/2002-17:55 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Milnor FL)
MESSAGE: You should take a look at the Braun 600. THAT SUCKER HOLDS SIX HUNDRED LBS OF LAUNDRY(THREE LOADS IN ONE CYLINDER).
Chris
Search for the Braun 600. Thant's the second LARGEST open pocket washer.
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Post# 25165-12/18/2002-21:25 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
Early 60s Westinghouse Top Loaders
MESSAGE: Will you send me some pictures of the Westinghouse TLs?
Please open the Kenmore and Speed Queen appliance wings tomorrow.
Thanks,
Chris
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Post# 25166-12/18/2002-21:39 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Milnor FL)
MESSAGE: I don't mind doing laundry, but I would not like to be the one to sort and fold that amount of laundry! 600 lbs is a lot of clothes!!!
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Post# 25167-12/18/2002-21:40 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Early 60s Westinghouse Top Loaders
MESSAGE: Hi Chris,
Those museums are still under construction and don't exist at the moment. It takes alot of effort to put those museums up, the pictures have to be scanned in and cataloged etc so I don't think the guy who manages the site will be able to do that right away. The fellow that put this whole site together maintains the site on the side for free in his spare time and was nice enough to create everything you see here just to give us all a place to chat and share information on classic appliances.
But please enjoy what you see here, there are many pictures of many different machines if you go the Members Links area, you'll find links to web sites that show you personal collections of most of the folks here. Lots of classic kenmores and speed queens that haven't been organized into a museum.
Also I don't know that anyone has Westy Top loaders?
Sorry =)
~Steven
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Post# 25168-12/18/2002-22:03 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
76 Frigidaire For Sale
MESSAGE: ANyone checked the wanted/for sale section recently? As of 12/11/02 there is a up and down washer for sale in Michigan:
Working 1976 GM Frigidaire WC6 2-speed Jetcone pulsator washer. Refinished white cabinet and new belt. Looks great. Please e-mail for phone number and more information
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Post# 25169-12/18/2002-22:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: A bad timer caused the clutch to be stripped, thus losing speed control. Too expensive to fix on a 8 year old machine.
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Post# 25170-12/18/2002-23:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Yes, it says Lady Kenmore UltraFabricCare right on the control panel.
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Post# 25171-12/18/2002-23:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Americanas are Home
MESSAGE: Anthony, I always used low-sudsing detergents in my GE. Had sudslock in spin cycle enough asd it was. 99% of the time, had to do a second rinse.
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Post# 25172-12/18/2002-23:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: My sisters future Washing Machine
MESSAGE: Jason, you are too kind LOL. And judging by the amount of laundry that's awaiting until after the water meter reading (today or tomorrow), I have at least 11 loads saved up.
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Post# 25173-12/18/2002-23:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: 2 MILNORS
MESSAGE: And one of those would be purfek for your 19 chirren.
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Post# 25174-12/18/2002-23:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Milnor FL)
MESSAGE: Larry, one of my closest friends is the director of our hospital laundry. He has workers that tackle that much at a time. 2 or 3 200 pound dryers producing dry clothes!!!
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Post# 25175-12/18/2002-23:23 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: 76 Frigidaire For Sale ((Check this out Jamie!!, it's in Michigan))
MESSAGE: End of message. Bob
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Post# 25176-12/18/2002-23:46 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: 2 MILNORS
MESSAGE: Sho beat gurrin to da laundromat.
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Post# 25177-12/19/2002-03:26 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Milnor FL)
MESSAGE: Well Bob, pack up your laundry and off to the hospital laundry!!!
Louis
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Post# 25178-12/19/2002-06:42 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Acme and other brochures (AEG centrifuge)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis.
The AEG "junior centrifuge" is the same as the one I was given recently. (the one with the Dutch instructions inside) Mine has a purple spinner lid, which I would have thought was more of a seventies colour than fifties. Was this model made for a long time? Or was Netherlands into PURPLE a couple of decades before us Aussies? :)
Chris
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/1950%27s+brochures&.src=ph&.dnm=Aeg-09.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/1950%2527s%2bbrochures%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25179-12/19/2002-07:40 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Milnor FL)
MESSAGE: Bob, they must have strong arms and pecs for that line of work!
WOW!!!
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Post# 25180-12/19/2002-09:57 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Acme and other brochures (AEG centrifuge)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris,
The history of AEG tells us that the first Lavamat was introduced in 1958. I don't know if they mean the Lavamatic with that, If that is the case this brochure is from 1958 or just a bit later. If they mena the washer after this the brochure should be from around 1956. If your "Junior centrifuge" is exactly in all details the same you might have a real classic. They made this centrifuge probably to somewhere in the sixties. The transparent lid was replaced by an untransparent lid and a safety handle was added. The purple was not a fashionable color I think, but AEG never was really fashionable with things. Other brands too had lids with colors that didn't represent that era. I've seen blue, brown and other colors, I think even orange.
Louis
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Post# 25181-12/19/2002-11:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Acme and other brochures (AEG centrifuge)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, the transparent lid would of course certainly receive high marks from myself and perhaps others on this forum!
QEOM
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Post# 25182-12/19/2002-13:28 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Acme and other brochures (AEG centrifuge)
MESSAGE: I do agree, the color purple is the color of royalty!
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Post# 25183-12/19/2002-14:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Acme and other brochures (Royal)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
The transparent lid is indeed a Royal feature, but then again these old appliances appeal more to our taste anyway. They almost have as much character as we have. LOL
QLOTOC
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Post# 25184-12/19/2002-14:32 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Acme and other brochures (Purple)
MESSAGE: We couldn't agree more!
QLOTOC
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Post# 25185-12/19/2002-17:31 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Acme and other brochures (AEG centrifuge)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
My spinner has a purple lid which is quite "transparent", ie it isn't really clear but you can see through it. At the back is a toggle switch directly behind the lid hinge. To operate the spinner you close the lid, then flick the toggle to the ON position. When you open the lid, it touches the toggle switch and turns the unit off. (no hidden safety switch under the lid, just the lid hinge hitting the switch lever)
Does this sound like the earlier one?
I will have to clean it up and photograph it for the group. It is quite dirty at present, and the chrome top ring has some surface rust. Still runs a sweetly as a new one, though.
Chris.
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Post# 25186-12/19/2002-17:40 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1973-1974 Miele household appliances brochure
MESSAGE: Hi again,Louis
is this a non-spinning automatic?
Thanks
Chris
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/1973-1974+Miele+brochure&.src=ph&.dnm=Miele73-10.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/1973-1974%2bMiele%2bbrochure%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25187-12/19/2002-23:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Milnor FL)
MESSAGE: Larry, some of the butchest women I've ever seen. They can really sling that wassh. And "man" the presses very well too.
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Post# 25188-12/19/2002-23:38 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Maytag Washers (Milnor FL)
MESSAGE: Louis, don't think I've thought of it sometimes. I did get to help when our assistant pastor & his wife had a fire at their house two years ago. We did a ton of laundry one Saturday. Bill thought I was "sick" because I'd park myself standing infront of the 75 pound two front loaders. The tunnel washers just didn't "do it" for me. But I loved the dryers. Big gas ones with french type doors. I love going to the laundry building. The smell of lint, humidity, disinfectant, dchemicals. Such olfactory stimulation. I almost pass out with such excitement.
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Post# 25189-12/20/2002-01:31 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Acme and other brochures
MESSAGE: YAY! Enjoyed these brochures very much Louis!
You have to wonder about a brand names ACME though...
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Post# 25190-12/20/2002-02:39 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: Acme and other brochures (AEG centrifuge)
MESSAGE: Yes Chris, that sounds like the earlier ones. Can't wait to see some pictures.
Louis
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Post# 25191-12/20/2002-02:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1973-1974 Miele household appliances brochure (Miele Automatic 400)
MESSAGE: Yes, that is indeed a non-spinning automatic. I have one myself, the link goes to the pictures of it. Mine is from 1967.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.dir=/Miele+Automatic+400&.src=ph&.view=
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Post# 25192-12/20/2002-04:59 ||| mooney6au (Sydney, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1973-1974 Miele household appliances brochure (Miele Automatic 400)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis,
loved the pics - this is all of your collection I gather? Very impressive. Miele seems to have always had the best engineering and materials. It looks so well made. Such a clever design and water efficient back then. I have never seen anything like it in Australia. What was the purpose of removing the tub?
cheers,
Greg
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Post# 25193-12/20/2002-05:22 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
Lady Kenmore POD
MESSAGE: What a great ad.
At the very bottom of the ad on the right hand side it says: "It's designed for you, but built for your husband". I wonder how many women used that to manipulate their husbands into buying them a new washer?
I just love the vintage ads!
Brent
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Post# 25194-12/20/2002-05:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1973-1974 Miele household appliances brochure (Miele Automatic 400)
MESSAGE: Thank you Greg,
If you have only seen the 400 then you have seen also my two frontloaders. But I also have an agitator washer (pictures of it are in the map "Velo washer") and a small AEG toploader Lavamat 220. A few pictures of a similar model are in the album "More washers".
The purpose of removing the drum is for cleaning purposes, the filter is at the bottom of the outer tub. You can easily lift the filter out and clean it when you remove the tub. It's indeed a very well made washer, it never had a repair and was in use until last year. I only use it now and then, the pump appeared to be a bit on the weak side. It still works though.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?&.dir=/&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25195-12/20/2002-06:53 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
PHOTOS! AD RE-CREATION IDEA
MESSAGE: Louis! I do not have words to tell you how much I enjoy seeing your collection through photos. Never before the internet could this have been possible for me. Also, what a thrill that folks like you like to travel and get all around the world just like it's the beltway..
I'd like to see more photos from more members, more regularly!!
and HERE's an idea for an activity at the next convention....LET'S RE-CREAT AD'S using the original machines and posing as closely as possible to the original model's posture, etc....Wouldn't that be a FUN? I think it'd be a hoot. I'll give an example....In Louis links, see the AEG lady...she'd be easy to impersonate...stand with right hand in hip pocket, weight shifted so that right knee is in front of left knee, and indicate with the left hand...it'll be a hoot! Who wants to pose first? Louis? How about you...
Now everyone, find a favorite POD or other ad and begin now assembling any accesories you may need to enhance the re-creation....Perhaps we can put out a calender for 2004...and make some MONEY!
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Post# 25196-12/20/2002-07:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Lady Kenmore POD
MESSAGE: Hi Brent- I've seen several owner's manuals, brochures and sales instruction materials that have information for "him" with a few details about a machine's construction and superior workmanship to sell the idea of paying what was then a small fortune for an automatic washing machine and dryer. Apparently (most) men didn't care about color, features, etc. and had to be convinced that their hard-earned money was buying a durable and well made product.
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Post# 25197-12/20/2002-07:28 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: PHOTOS! AD RE-CREATION IDEA
MESSAGE: Here's one of Rich and Scott at Robert's a couple of years ago doing the Frigidaire Sheer Look pose!
Fun idea!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/multimatic850/vwp?.dir=/RichGary+Visit+to+Uni%27s+Washer+Playland&.src=ph&.dnm=ScottRich+in+Frigidaire+Sq..jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/multimatic850/lst%3f%26.dir=/RichGary%2bVisit%2bto%2bUni%2527s%2bWasher%2bPlayland%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25198-12/20/2002-08:49 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
POD
MESSAGE: Very Cool, we had the complete set in Harvest Gold. The dryer is still in use, my Dad sold it to a friend of mine. The washer continued untill 1994 when it finally was over taken by Fl. rust.
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Post# 25199-12/20/2002-09:09 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
Wisk Commercial, Whats missing?
MESSAGE: In the wisk commercial of the mystery washer, Where the heck is the lid?! There is no lid period! Geeze! It must be a demo washer.
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Post# 25200-12/20/2002-10:18 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: PHOTOS! AD RE-CREATION IDEA (Difficult part)
MESSAGE: Since I'm very well known for standing with my hands on my hips, especially while tapping my right foot for impatience, the impersonation is not the difficult part. What is more difficult is finding the right appliance. I have no appliances in my collection that was advertized with a person in the ad. We could ofcourse take matters a little less serious and cheat a little by making a picture of me with my little AEG toploader, but that isn't really authentic. Tell me what you think.
BTW, I don't look good in a dress with flowers.
Louis
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Post# 25201-12/20/2002-11:18 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: PHOTOS! AD RE-CREATION IDEA (calendars and coffee table books)
MESSAGE: Oh, I already have my ideas of how I would photograph "The Men Of Applianceville" for a calendar, a black and white, tasteful (yet stimulating) collage of 12 men with their appliances, guarendamnteed to raise lots of money! The problem is getting to everyone to take the photos, and coming up with the ideas of the photo shoots (and, of course, talking the subjects into tastefully disrobing). I know exactly how I'd photograph Greg N, Greg M, Robert S, Steve and Rhinnie, and Jon C, but that's only 5 months worth...
Wasn't there talk of a coffee table picture book of washers?
-ph
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Post# 25202-12/20/2002-12:20 ||| Wooffy (Peoria, Il.)
SUBJECT:
insinkerator dishwasher
MESSAGE: New to this site, but been reading for months....(dishwasher fascination) Question: What ever happened to insinkerator dw's?
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Post# 25203-12/20/2002-14:50 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: PHOTOS! AD RE-CREATION IDEA (calendars and coffee table books)
MESSAGE: What about you? Peter, you are the only one who got compliments on their appearance from the convention photos - something about a backside I think...
Louis - with our height, I think any sort of print fabric is out of the question for us :-)
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Post# 25204-12/20/2002-14:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: insinkerator dishwasher
MESSAGE: Insinkerator dishwashers were made by Hobart (Kitchen Aid) and I think ISE machines probably ended when Whirlpool bought the domestic divisions and the Kitchen Aid name from Hobart. I have a brochure for ISE around here somewhere, probably from the late 80's with the dishwashers.
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Post# 25205-12/20/2002-15:20 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: PHOTOS! AD RE-CREATION IDEA (calendars and coffee table books)
MESSAGE: Oh please, don't make me blush! It's sad when only your backside gets the compliments! Besides, there are guys who would make far better models than I would.
-ph
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Post# 25206-12/20/2002-15:46 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT:
RE: PHOTOS! AD RE-CREATION IDEA (calendars and coffee table books)
MESSAGE: Thats a new idea. An A+ for originality. I like that. But not B&W though
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Post# 25207-12/20/2002-17:14 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
1983 Whirlpool washer
MESSAGE: Will you e-mail me a video of 1983 Whirlpool washer in action? I would like it in action during the entire cycle.
Including the 1978 GE.
My e-mail address is camMURRAY20@aol.com
Thanks,
Chris
One more,the Frigidaire 1-18 with BACK AND FORTH agitator.
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Post# 25208-12/20/2002-17:16 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
About the washers I requested on.
MESSAGE: Take your time and do them one at a time.
Chris
I in love with a Maytag dishwasher.
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Post# 25209-12/20/2002-18:08 ||| Brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
Norge Washer Question
MESSAGE: Happy Weekend!
Today I was driving by a house that is being redone from top to bottom, and there on the front lawn were all of the appliances. I almost wrecked because I thought that this washer and dryer set was a Sunny Yellow Kelvinator set. I of course parked the car, and walked in the yard with the dogs barking at me like they were going to kill me, but I did not care. When I got up to it, it was a Norge. Looked alot like a Signature pair that my father bought for my great grandmother. It was in like new shape. Not a spot of rust on it. And boy did that tub look like it could handle more than 20 pounds!
The question is about the age. It said on the top on the left hand side in big red letters, NORGE 20 POUND WASHER. On the right hand side next to a very confusing timer layout it said: "Norge - 50 years of service." I was impressed with the tub in the machine. Not so impressed with the agitator or the filter on top of that.
The owner of the house then came out and asked if I could be helped. And I smiled at him and said, "Why Yes", like I was in a department store. I asked him if the set was being thrown away. He said that his wife wanted to, but he did not have the heart to because it was for his mother, and it ran like a charm. He then said that he would think about because it was so heavy and he did not want to move it too many more times. I gave him my number.
What do you guys think? Is this kinda a fun machine. If I remember, my grand mothers was super loud. The house is close by so if he does not call, I will watch his garbage. I pass there at least two times a day.
Oh yea...The dryer was a yellow bottom of the line newer GE.
Dang, I thought it was a Kelvinator!
Brent
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Post# 25210-12/20/2002-21:11 ||| zzzzz (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1983 Whirlpool washer (Frigidaire 1-18 with BACK AND FORTH agitator?)
MESSAGE: CA,
Why would you want footage of an ersatz 1-18 (the WCI oscillating-agitator variety) instead of the real GM thing with a pulsator?...
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Post# 25211-12/20/2002-23:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: insinkerator dishwasher
MESSAGE: Well, at one point they were rebadged Hobart KitchenAid dishwashers. That was the last I heard of them.
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Post# 25212-12/21/2002-02:41 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1983 Whirlpool washer
MESSAGE: Chris,
You can download all the videos in the museum section of this site. Besides that there are lots of other things to enjoy here. But we don't do requests here and we certainly don't send them.
Louis
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Post# 25213-12/21/2002-03:32 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT:
RE: PHOTOS! AD RE-CREATION IDEA (calendars and coffee table books)
MESSAGE: Especially vertical stripes are a big NO!
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Post# 25214-12/21/2002-03:47 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Norge Washer Question
MESSAGE: That sound like so much fun!
Look out for that washer and ditch the dryer unless it has more features than the washer......
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Post# 25215-12/21/2002-08:16 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
POD
MESSAGE: Can anyone give more info on todays most excellent POD? Very attractive and looks to be mechanically interesting.
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Post# 25216-12/21/2002-08:38 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD
MESSAGE: It's a "bouncing basket" washer. The entire wash basket oscillates like a Calypso. It's apparently extremely rare because Robert (unimatic) has been looking for one for quite some time and hasn't found it yet.
Where is he anyway?
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Post# 25217-12/21/2002-09:26 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (POD)
MESSAGE: In the apartment complex where I grew up, they had commercial Apex washers with bouncing tub. The lids had round glass windows. The water would start come into the tub. Half way through the fill up, the tub would start to bounce. You could see the action through the glass lid. Then the wash action stopped and a second or two later, the tub would spin. There was a wash and two rinse cycles, followed by final spin.
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Post# 25218-12/21/2002-09:29 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT:
1947 Bendix Bolted and Working
MESSAGE: I finally got my 1947 Bendix front loader back from repair shop, bolted it down to concrete garage floor, and did a wash through complete cycle. The machine stayed in place during the spin cycle. Works as good as the day it was manufactured.
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Post# 25219-12/21/2002-09:31 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT:
1951 Westinghouse Slant Front
MESSAGE: My 1951 Westinghouse slant front arrived here in Palm Springs, California from Savannah, Georgia. Shipping took 2 months to get here. Electric cord and drain hose in bad shape. Plugged it in and.....nothing. Machine is now in repair shop. The mechanic assured me that he will be able to get machine in tip top shape. Cant wait.
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Post# 25220-12/21/2002-12:04 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1951 Westinghouse Slant Front
MESSAGE: Hi Ross,
Where did you find such a great mechanic? He must know his classics!
~Steven in San Diego
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Post# 25221-12/21/2002-12:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD (POD Apex Dreams)
MESSAGE: Many of us have never seen one of these operating - or even the machine at all, you are lucky to have that memory!
On the SD appliance burial ground, there was a Ward-Drier that was made by Apex that was a similar panel design to this. The center of the panel was a lid that opened to remove the lint screen.
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Post# 25222-12/21/2002-12:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working
MESSAGE: Congrats on the Bendix - glad to hear it's working like new again!
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Post# 25223-12/21/2002-12:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Norge Washer Question
MESSAGE: Why not play with the machine for awhile - you can always give it away to charity or sell it when you get bored with it or find something really exciting to take it's place, like an Apex!
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Post# 25224-12/21/2002-12:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1951 Westinghouse Slant Front
MESSAGE: Another lucky find indeed, does he have parts available to fix these classics? It's rare to run across anyone who remembers these things AND is still willing to work on them.
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Post# 25225-12/21/2002-13:20 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT:
1983 WP Washer
MESSAGE: There is only a video in the museum for one, and that the combination washer-dryer. All the rest don't have a video.
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Post# 25226-12/21/2002-18:12 ||| Ray4me (Texas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: I would love to purchase the Nutone Food Center. Let me know.
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Post# 25227-12/21/2002-18:16 ||| Ray4me (Texas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: Don't trash the Nutone. I have one and love it but my blender pitcher is shameful to look at. I wouldn't mind having the molded shelves either. I would love to purchase what you have.
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Post# 25228-12/21/2002-18:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working
MESSAGE: Ross, CONGRATULATIONS!!! Glad the Bendix is working well, you lucky devil you!!! Wash on Wash on!!!
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Post# 25229-12/21/2002-21:47 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working
MESSAGE: Congrats Ross! May it continue to wash load after load after load. :-)
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Post# 25230-12/22/2002-01:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Today's POD--1957 Control Tower washer
MESSAGE: The WI57 is my 2nd favorite Frigidaire, the most favorite is the WCI58.
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Post# 25231-12/22/2002-07:16 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--1957 Control Tower washer
MESSAGE: I agree. I loved the tower controls on the 57 but there's something about the 58 that always appealed to me. I especially like the tri-colored pulsator on the 58.
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Post# 25232-12/22/2002-07:20 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Washer Question
MESSAGE: Sounds like an early 70's model right before they started putting the Fedders name on nthe machines. It may be the same one my sister had.
You are right about it being very noisy. Those latter-day Norge 20 pounders had the noisiest transmission of any washer I've ever encountered. But it could be a fun machine to add to a collection. If you do end up with it let me know. I'd love to come see it in person.
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Post# 25233-12/22/2002-08:23 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Washer Question
MESSAGE: My friend is about to junk his 80s Magic Chef (20lb Norge machine) because it's leaking and rusting away. It is a loud one.
Norge machines have always been loud. Go to the Norge wing of the museum and watch the video of the 50s Norge.
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Post# 25234-12/22/2002-08:46 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 Westinghouse Slant Front (repairman)
MESSAGE: hi steve....california appliance recycling factory on pyrite street in riverside, california has a mechanic who is able to work on the old machines....local palm springs appliance repair shops refused to even try....ross
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Post# 25235-12/22/2002-08:48 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: 1951 Westinghouse Slant Front (westinghouse repair)
MESSAGE: hi gansky....so far, i have not had to look for replacement parts..mechanic was able to fix existing parts...ross
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Post# 25236-12/22/2002-09:48 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Washer Question (LOUD!!!)
MESSAGE: Wow, that Norge is LOUD!!! Sounds like it must be grinding metal- you'd almost expect to find a pile of steel shavings in the tub after a load!
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Post# 25237-12/22/2002-09:56 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--1957 Control Tower washer
MESSAGE: Those control towers were SO cool looking...Looks like something that should've been on the Jupiter II in "Lost In Space". Wonder why they only lasted a year. Was it because the appliance industry(much like the auto industry) of the late 50's was so competitive that if changes weren't made sales plummeted? In America, one sometimes feel that EVERYTHING has been about marketing for the past 60 years or so!
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Post# 25238-12/22/2002-12:11 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--1957 Control Tower washer
MESSAGE: Were Control Tower timers designed to be easily removed and plugged back in? Or were they permanently attached? Looks like it would break off easily when the machine was being delivered, especially in older homes with narrow doors and basement stairs.
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Post# 25239-12/22/2002-14:56 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--1957 Control Tower washer
MESSAGE: Those machines are so cool looking. I want one. (Only in my dreams, there are SOME disadvantages in living in an apartment, but I digress.) I too wonder about delivery. I agree, those control towers look like they would easily break off. Maybe that's why the design lasted only one model year?
I assume that those controls to the left of the control tower were controls for temp and speed. Has anyone ever seen one of these models up close and personal? The two Frigidaire pulsators that I knew growing up (as I've mentioned one of my neighbors and an aunt had one) had conventional control panels. Sigh, everytime I see an ad for a pulsator model I find myself silently cursing out the people who decided to put convential agitators in Frididaires during the dark years after the brand was sold by General Motors.
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Post# 25240-12/22/2002-15:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--1957 Control Tower washer
MESSAGE: jerseyMike, the two controls on the left were for water temps and water level. Had hot or warm wash and warm or cold rinse. Water lever was either normal or small. Unimatics did not have speeds. The normal pulsating speed and the 1140 rpm spin speed. Yes, I've seen this up close & personal. Used one in fact.
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Post# 25241-12/22/2002-15:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--1957 Control Tower washer
MESSAGE: Wireman, starting with the 1955 model year, Frigidaire changed the control panel styles every model year. The 1957 model year for the laundry line (and for all Frigidaire appliances for that matter) I believe was the first year of the new "sheer look", square rather than rounded corners. But for the 1957 laundry line, this was a very unpopular style. Sales plummeted. That's one reason why 1957 control tower machines are so rare. I imagine they were just too futuristic looking. Me personally, I remember seeing a set of these (pink in fact) in 1964 or 1965. My initial reaction was what a cheap loking washer & dryer set. Such a skimpy/crappy looking timer knob, just stuck up there on a stem witha box on top. And I was so short & so nearsighted, I couldn't even read the printing on the chrome strip at the base of the knobs (sticks as I called them) for the water temp & water level selection. Until I came to this club and truely appreciated this pair, they were my least favorite Frigidaire pair. After all, I had already been exposed to the WO65, the WI55, and the WI59. And I thought those machines were FAR superior looking. And within a few months months of this initial exposure, I'd get to see a WCD65 and a WCI65, which I fell in love with--loved the control panels and the off-set timer control dials as well as the first home models with the jet-action washing.
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Post# 25242-12/22/2002-17:32 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--1957 Control Tower washer (Marketing, Schmarketing......)
MESSAGE: I'm a sucker for anything that's vintage Frigidaire - especially the Sheer Look series - and these two are beauties. Plus, anything that allows more time for croquet with the kids is a big plus in my book (Although I can't tell if she's wearing flats, or if her heels have just sunk into the dirt ;-)
I couldn't agree with you more about marketing, but at least in those years, there was enough variety that we can all have our own faves. Nowadays, when business is essentially nothing BUT marketing, industrial design has been muzzled. Every once in a while a revolutionary design(like the Imac series)makes it's way through to the consumer. They affect everything else, but it's way too few and far between. Look at cars: The most radical thing to happen in cars recently has been the new bug and the PT Cruiser, but even they are essentially refinements or rehashes of previous designs.
Speaking of cars - Isn't it ironic that the company that once bought you cool appliances like these now produces things like the Cadillac Escalde? Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, of course, but to my eyes, that thing looks a GM truck with a Kelvinator food-o-rama welded on the back ;-)
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Post# 25243-12/22/2002-17:49 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--1957 Control Tower washer
MESSAGE: This styling theme found it's way into their slide in ranges as well. My first house had a white slide in unit and the clock and timer were in a pod very similar to the w/d.
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Post# 25244-12/22/2002-17:56 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--1957 Control Tower washer (Marketing, Schmarketing......)
MESSAGE: You are sooo right. What happened to those "Body by Fisher, Interior by Fleetwood" doors sills that graced Cadillac cars. Where are the decals that said "AirConditioned by Airtemp" and "Cooled by Frigidaire"? My Uncle gave me his 1961 Chevy Biscane, with NO power steering but FACTORY air in 1978. I proudly made sure the back window was always clean so that everyone could see how "cool" I was!
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Post# 25245-12/22/2002-18:29 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: ImperialBob
MESSAGE: Email down again,I will contact asap.
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Post# 25246-12/22/2002-19:05 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT: 1960 Westinghouse toploader
MESSAGE: Do you have a picture of this washer? If so, show me a picture of it. Will Amana be in the museum too?
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Post# 25247-12/22/2002-23:23 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: A Very Merry Christmas to all!!
MESSAGE: Wishing all of you a Very Merry Christmas. As I reflect on all the things that I have to be grateful for this club and all of you are at the top of the list. I'll be away for about a week with no computer. I am going to miss all of you. Have a safe and happy holiday. Terry
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Post# 25248-12/22/2002-23:40 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--1957 Control Tower washer (Marketing, Schmarketing......)
MESSAGE: I hear where your going with the Cadillac whatever it is supposed to be. I agree.
recycled sheetmetal on wheels.
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Post# 25249-12/22/2002-23:40 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: A Very Merry Christmas to all!!
MESSAGE: Merry Christmas to you too, and everyone else!
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Post# 25250-12/22/2002-23:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: A Very Merry Christmas to all!!
MESSAGE: Merry Christmas/Happy Holidays to Terry and all!
LINK: http://pic4.picturetrail.com/VOL53/814581/1466424/17139032.jpg
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Post# 25251-12/23/2002-04:17 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: Happy Holidays
MESSAGE: Happy Holidays everyone !!
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Post# 25252-12/23/2002-04:22 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Moffat Washer
MESSAGE: There is a Moffat washer that is on Ebay, the washer has the body of a GE but a lid of an orginal Hotpoint. Is this machine a true Hotpoint or just another GE wannabe?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20714&item=2083353848
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Post# 25253-12/23/2002-07:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Moffat Washer
MESSAGE: I think this is one of those "mixed breed" washers like the 1974 Viking we see on POD. It has a hotpoint lid but a GE Filter-Flo inside.
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Post# 25254-12/23/2002-07:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD Cool-O-Matic
MESSAGE: Does anyone in the club own a Launderall machine?
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Post# 25255-12/23/2002-08:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--1957 Control Tower washer
MESSAGE: Both knobs were for water temp selection - wash (hot or warm) and rinse (warm or cold) and the water level was a lever on the wash temp knob for normal or small loads.
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Post# 25256-12/23/2002-08:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Holidays
MESSAGE: Best wishes to everyone for a safe and happy holiday.
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Post# 25257-12/23/2002-08:31 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Holidays
MESSAGE: Happy Holidays!!
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Post# 25258-12/23/2002-08:46 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: Happy Holiday's
MESSAGE: May everyone have a safe and fabulous holiday.
HAPPY HOLIDAY
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Post# 25259-12/23/2002-09:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: A Very Merry Christmas to all!!
MESSAGE: Merry Christmas TO ALL. I think the world of y'all. Bob
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Post# 25260-12/23/2002-09:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Cool-O-Matic
MESSAGE: Jetcone has one I believe Jason. I'm not sure it's running right now. Bob
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Post# 25261-12/23/2002-10:15 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--1957 Control Tower washer (Marketing, Schmarketing......Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: Gotta agree...the Cad SUVs look HORRIBLE! The styling of the new small Cadillac(assembled here in Lansing, MI) has grown on me. Similar styling, but looks better on a small vehicle.
The front of the current full-size Cads doesn't do much for me either.
We have 2 Frigidaire stoves: a 30" 1954 in a pretty green and a 40" 1969 in white. Both are well built and durable. The '69 probably needs a new thermostat on the larger, self cleaning oven...I'll have to tackle that soon. I can just imagine that this house once had ALL new Frigidaire appliances when built in 1953. At least the stove survived!
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Post# 25262-12/23/2002-10:17 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: A Very Merry Christmas to all!! (It's a Kenmore Kristmas)
MESSAGE: Twas the night before Christmas and all through the house
not a washer was washing, not even a mouse
The washers were placed in the basement with care
in hopes that St. Apex soon would be there
Merry Christmas from me, The General, Sir Frigemore, Little Lady, Ms. Frigidaire (fridge), Tammy Tappan (stove), Magic Micro, Marsha the Mixer, Perky, Mr. Coffee, Frodo the Toaster, and Mr. Freeze (my 1961 ice cream freezer)...
also from Wizard the cat, Harry, Ron, & Hermione (my fish)
Whew! Lots of names for all those appliances. And I didn't even start on my stereos yet.
Yes. I'm weird, thank you :-P
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Post# 25263-12/23/2002-10:41 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: A Merrry Christmas to All
MESSAGE: A warm and merry Christmas to all my friends at Classic Appliances.....Ross Roberts in Palm Springs, California
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Post# 25264-12/23/2002-11:25 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD--1957 Control Tower washer
MESSAGE: Appnut,
Isn't amazing that those corporations had the resources to redesign and often retool EVERY year?! One wonders if consumers of the past weren't overcharged a bit- it is costly to have such short design cycles. Of course, if they hadn't changed designs so frequently, we wouldn't have some of the cool appliances, cars, etc. that were produced. I suspect, from seeing photos of international appliances(and cars), that elsewhere, various designs had a MUCH longer life cycle. Probably our American obsession with "newer is better" and relative wealth contributed to the whole phenomenon.
Happy Holidays to all!
Duane
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Post# 25265-12/23/2002-11:51 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: 4 versus 3 versus 6
MESSAGE: The Launderall picture of the day (December 23, 2002) raises a question about the number of vanes or baffles in a tumble action washer.
Most of today's, from the most expensive Asko, Miele, Duet, HE3T and Bosch to the cheapest GE and Frigidaire have only 3 vanes. The renegade Maytag Neptune has 6 half-width vanes.
Is any inherently better at cleaning than the other, or is Maytag claiming little more than bragging rights?
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Post# 25266-12/23/2002-15:34 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: club
MESSAGE: Hello
I am relatively new to the club,and have stayed mostly on the sidelines,but want to say Happy Holidays to each of you and say how much I enjoy this group.The camraderie(sic?)is great-checking the site daily is something I look forward to.
Tom
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Post# 25267-12/23/2002-15:44 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: A Merrry Christmas to All
MESSAGE: Very Best Wishes to All for Christmas 2002 and the New Year 2003!
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Post# 25268-12/23/2002-17:00 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working (Smile, you're on Bendix camera)
MESSAGE: Yaaaaay!
Any photos?
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Post# 25269-12/23/2002-17:30 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Moffat Washer
MESSAGE: Truly deceiving!
I thought it would be the orginal Hotpoint with the filter ring around the inner basket!
Oh well, just a another GE... :-((
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Post# 25270-12/23/2002-17:37 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: A Merrry Christmas to All
MESSAGE: Those Jingle Balls are jumping!
Merry Christmas everyone!
Cleanteam.....
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Post# 25271-12/23/2002-17:45 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: Happy Holidays!!
MESSAGE: Hope everyone enjoys the holidays. I am verklempt(SP?) with anticipation at what machines will be graced with the honor of being POD for X-mas and New Years Day!
Duane
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Post# 25272-12/23/2002-20:35 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: We're Back!
MESSAGE: Rhinnie and I arrived back to Tampa, FL yesterday. We were on a 7 day cruise to the western Carribean. Had a great time.
Just finished catching up on all the posts.
Here are a few pictures thought you might enjoy.
Happy Holidays to all!
Steve 1-18
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_2002/slideshow?.dir=/Cruise+2002&.view=t
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Post# 25273-12/23/2002-21:33 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Happy Holidays Everyone
MESSAGE: I hope everyone has a very happy holiday.
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Post# 25274-12/23/2002-22:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: We're Back!
MESSAGE: Happy Holidays Steve and Rhinnie! Hope you had a wonderful trip (and stayed well the entire time!) and thanks for the great pictures!
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Post# 25275-12/23/2002-23:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: We're Back! (SQ Front loader)
MESSAGE: I had my heart set on a stand-alone SQ front loader but COULD NOT find it around New Orleans anywhere.
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Post# 25276-12/23/2002-23:26 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Peace on Earth
MESSAGE: And an Apex Washamatic to the good people of Applianceville...
-ph
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Post# 25277-12/23/2002-23:28 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Norge Washer Question (Take the plunge, Brent...)
MESSAGE: It's time for you to start. Bring that baby home. If it is a Borg-Warner Norge, it is definitely a classic.
-ph
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Post# 25278-12/23/2002-23:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: We're Back! (SQ Front loader)
MESSAGE: Jason,
Look up coin laundry equipment in your Yellow Pages. Or go to their website and use the distributor locator function. I'm sure you will find a SQ/Hoebsch distributor in the NOLA area. Call them and see about it. I think they retail at a silly $1200.
-ph
LINK: http://www.speedqueen.com/opl/Locator.htm
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Post# 25279-12/23/2002-23:35 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1960 Westinghouse toploader
MESSAGE: Go the the Wanted page on this website. There is a pic of one there.
I think it is safe to say that Amana will not be in the museum.
-ph
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Post# 25280-12/23/2002-23:38 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: We're Back! (YIKES)
MESSAGE: I could get a Duet for that price. I'll stick with my Frigemore then. $650 for front loading and fast spin. Worth it!
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Post# 25281-12/23/2002-23:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Peace on Earth
MESSAGE: And a Kenmore 800 with a big red ribbon wrapped around it for me when I wake up Christmas morning.
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Post# 25282-12/24/2002-00:04 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Peace on Earth (KM 800)
MESSAGE: Jason, I offered you a matchine set but you never said anything about it.
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Post# 25283-12/24/2002-00:11 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Peace on Earth (KM 800)
MESSAGE: I know but I couldn't have been able to pick it up anytime soon though. :-(
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Post# 25284-12/24/2002-03:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: club
MESSAGE: Happy Holidays to you too and welcome to the club. I was in Bristol this summer enjoying the Tennessee landscape. I had a wonderful time overthere.
Louis
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Post# 25285-12/24/2002-03:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: We're Back!
MESSAGE: Well, that's a smart looking washer couple! Did you get to see these washers and dryers in use? It's the first time I see a professional Asko.
Happy Holidays to you and Rhinnie,
Louis
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Post# 25286-12/24/2002-03:34 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Peace on Earth
MESSAGE: And room to put it somewhere.
Happy Holidays,
Louis
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Post# 25287-12/24/2002-08:46 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: We're Back!
MESSAGE: I'm so glad that you guys had a good time a Safe trip!
Thanks for the photo's and Merry Christmas......
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Post# 25288-12/24/2002-08:47 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: Happy Holidays!
MESSAGE: I want to wish all a Happy Holiday Season
Peter
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Post# 25289-12/24/2002-08:48 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: We're Back! (We're Back! )
MESSAGE: I hope U guys enjoyed the trip
Hope to chat soon
Peter
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Post# 25290-12/24/2002-09:16 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Ho ho ho
MESSAGE: Merry Christmas!!!
Gee I need bigger sleigh with all those washing machines. Let's see...
Robert S. (nice) - Apex Washamatic (hmm.. my elves just finished fixing that one)
Jason L. (nice) - Harley Davidson Road King... wait a minute... You'll get killed on that thing. How about a Kenmore 800? (Got plenty of those in my workshop)
Tcox619 (nice) - Frigidaire 1-18s - delivered
Jimmy Filter-Flo (nice) - Don't you have enough stuff?
Bob A (naugh.. hmmm.. let's say nice this year but you better be nice next year) - Kenmore Front Loader - my elves can make those with their eyes closed.
Jason D (NAUGHTY NAUGHTY NAUGHTY) - Didn't even post his picture on the web so even if I deliver his 1986 Lady Kenmore LE dryer I wouldn't know what he looks like.
Imperial Bob (hmmm... nauuu... um ok... nice) - your house is full of stuff but I guess you have room for a Launderall and a Spin-x.
Well, that's just a few off of my list. The elves are loading up the sleigh right now.
Now here's another problem, how do I get a washing machine down a chimney?
By the way, you "naughty" people... I was just joking so don't get mad or Santa won't visit you for real :-(
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Post# 25291-12/24/2002-10:03 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: The 12 Gifts of Applianceville
MESSAGE: (To be sung to the last verse of The 12 Days of Christmas, Santa will know if you don't sing!!)
The 12 gifts of Applianceville:
Since Jimmy had me jo-in, this hobby's brought to me:
A Nutone Food Center,
A coffee pot that lights up,
A poppy 1-18,
An Ironrite Mangle,
A Lady Kenmore dryer,
Seven Owners manuals,
'65 LK consoles,
Five, agitator caps,
Four lint filters,
Three owners manuals,
Two Tappan stoves,
AND A GREAT BUNCH OF BRAND NEW FREINDS.
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!! Thanks for a great year! Don
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Post# 25292-12/24/2002-12:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: club
MESSAGE: Tom, happy holidays to you too. Glad you emerged from the sidelines. And welcome!! Bob
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Post# 25293-12/24/2002-13:52 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy Holidays! (what else is there to say?)
MESSAGE: Merry Christmas, have a beautiful holiday.
Leslie
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Post# 25294-12/24/2002-14:46 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Ho ho ho
MESSAGE: For now the dryer can wait, friends and family is what makes the day special. Now the day after Christmas......
And there are two pics of me on the site, both with Brownie. There is also another pic of me surounded by hunky men. Taken last year.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_30813/vwp?.dir=/November+2001&.src=ph&.dnm=Atlanta+Mini+Convention.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_30813/lst%3f%26.dir=/November%2b2001%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25295-12/24/2002-15:32 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: Ho ho ho (Dish Drawers)
MESSAGE: Happy Holidays! In your link, noticed the photos of the dishdrawers; do you love 'em, hate 'em, or just think they are ok?
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Post# 25296-12/24/2002-15:54 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Ho ho ho (Dish Drawers)
MESSAGE: That belongs to Steve 1-18. I don't have one, but one day maybe I will.
In the field the only thing I have seen go wrong is that roaches like to eat the seals.
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Post# 25297-12/24/2002-16:01 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Merry Christmas
MESSAGE: Here's wishing a very festive holiday to each and every one of you.
Les
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Post# 25298-12/24/2002-17:33 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Peace on Earth (KM 800)
MESSAGE: Does anyone have a picture of the Kenmore 800?
-Alex
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Post# 25299-12/24/2002-22:52 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: holiday message
MESSAGE: Happy holidays to a great group of people. This site has brought me new friends and new vintage machines. Thanks to Robert for creating this site and to so many others for their year round kindness ... Jimmy, thanks for the 1-18 set that arrived yesterday, they are beautiful. Bob A, thanks for sending words of cheer. Jason, thanks for being the other half of the New Orleans wash-ins. I hope to meet more of you guys in the coming year. Merry Christmas to all.
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Post# 25300-12/25/2002-09:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: 3 Ho's and a big fat guy
MESSAGE: Merry Christmas!!!
Umm.. no sight of a Harley or a Kenmore 800 yet but merry Christmas anyway!
:-D
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Post# 25301-12/25/2002-11:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Ho ho ho (Dish Drawers)
MESSAGE: Jason, I had heard certain critters like to eat at the seals. I also understood that newer models had a new material for the seals that eliminated that problem. Is this true?
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Post# 25302-12/25/2002-11:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 3 Ho's and a big fat guy
MESSAGE: No Fridgemore undewr the tree. But there will be a new KA mixer in my future. And Jason, I can't imagine the big fat guy with 3 ladies of the evening. (grin) :>D
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Post# 25303-12/25/2002-15:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Ho ho ho
MESSAGE: I knew that all along. I was just pickin'.
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Post# 25304-12/25/2002-15:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 3 Ho's and a big fat guy
MESSAGE: How do you think Santa gets all the money to make the toys?
He pushes a button and the sleigh turns into a pimped out escalade.
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Post# 25305-12/25/2002-17:45 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Happy Holidays
MESSAGE: Hope everyone has had a wonderful holiday and safe traveling.
Steve1-18 & Rhinnie
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Post# 25306-12/25/2002-22:33 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: Praise to the appliances!!
MESSAGE: I have no problem washing dishes by hand, but I am SO thankful to have a dishwasher. John Lefever couldn't get anymore into that poor thing if he tried.
The washer is purring along, the dryer is going and soon the vacuum will be cleaning up the mess we created.
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Post# 25307-12/25/2002-23:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Praise to the appliances!!
MESSAGE: Jason, Steve 1-18 was talking to me on the phone one night and I heard him say, Rhinnie, I don't even think Bob could get anything else in there, leave that for the next load of dishes.
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Post# 25308-12/26/2002-00:25 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Ho ho ho (Dish Drawers)
MESSAGE: Roaches? EewwWWue!
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Post# 25309-12/26/2002-00:33 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Peace on Earth (KM 800)
MESSAGE: I need to get a scanner and/or digital camera so I can make a cool web site too. Then I could send you a pic of my harvest gold Kenmore 800 washer. But that darn Santa copped an attitude!
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Post# 25310-12/26/2002-08:54 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Happy Day after to all, Santa did bring me a digital camera with a 101 page owners manual! I am settling down for some serious reading. I also got some TRE-FAB Ruth Etting from a member of the group. He will remain nameless to protect his identity, but what a great gift!
Anyway, about the POD, besides being way cool looking, does the washer offer delayed wash via the clock? If so, it again seems all that was old is new again!
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Post# 25311-12/26/2002-10:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Peace on Earth (KM 800)
MESSAGE: There's also been a POD of a Kenmore 800 like what Jason & I had when we were a child. I'll find it on my PC when I have the time.
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Post# 25312-12/26/2002-10:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Peace on Earth (KM 800 pic)
MESSAGE: Here it is!
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrind-click-clunk!
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/vwp?.dir=/pictures/Dream+Machines&.dnm=Kenmore+800.jpg&.src=bc&.view=l&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst%3f%26.dir=/pictures/Dream%2bMachines%26.src=bc%26.view=l
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Post# 25313-12/26/2002-14:42 ||| jleyerle (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Help with old Maytag washer
MESSAGE: Hi from a newby.
Have an old (15 yr) Maytag washer--today when I started a load and it moved to agitate got a hummmmmm. Wouldn't start. Moved it around to spin and got a hummmmm. Took the front off:
can move tub easily by pushing/pulling on the spinning counterweight
can move pump easily
motor can be moved easily
Took off the capacitor (?) on top of the motor (btw, what is the switch effect on it). No difference whether the pressure switch is on/off
Only symptom that I can recall is about 2 mos ago I used bleach, poured it through the dispenser, and it went on the floor. Didn't investigate then--found today that the bleach tube had become detached at the top.
Any suggestions? TIA
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Post# 25314-12/26/2002-14:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Help with old Maytag washer
MESSAGE: Did you check the belt? YOu have to lift the machine at the front and look underneath. Might have a broken belt if everything else turns freely.
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Post# 25315-12/26/2002-19:09 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Help with old Maytag washer
MESSAGE: Sounds like a belt to me also.
Hope that's all that's needed to get her up and running, being without a washer is a major PITA!
Happy Holidays,
-Alex
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Post# 25316-12/26/2002-19:10 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Peace on Earth (KM 800 pic)
MESSAGE: ok, cool!
The Kenmore 800 looks like those Lady Kenmores with the control panel cover.
Thanks for digging that picture up.
-Alex
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Post# 25317-12/26/2002-19:35 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Help with old Maytag washer
MESSAGE: I agree
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Post# 25318-12/26/2002-20:18 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Help with old Maytag washer (MOTOR)
MESSAGE: My crystal ball has the motor bad on this maytag...bleach will ruin a motor, even with the gaurd in place some times..
it's also possible the bleach did wrong by the motor rollers & springs as well..I never saw a maytag washer hum and had it be the belt...and never saw a belt fall off a maytag either..
merry merry
BOB
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Post# 25319-12/26/2002-20:20 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: POD- Date?
MESSAGE: What is the year of the POD? Looks like it still has the "Timeline" was there any overlap with the Dispensomat?
Hope everyone is recovering from X-Mas. Thanks!
Duane
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Post# 25320-12/26/2002-20:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Peace on Earth (KM 800 pic)
MESSAGE: It's the model right before the Lady Kenmore with the pushbuttons and cover.
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Post# 25321-12/26/2002-21:34 ||| jleyerle (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Followup on Maytag
MESSAGE: Looks like it is the motor. Belts were fine (knew how they operated so checked that OK. Stopped by a appliance parts place and they mentioned slipping off the belt to see if the motor would work without load. Slipped off the belts (love that simple design) and the motor still hummed, but with the flick of a finger could get it to start. Hooked up the pump to at least get the last bit of water out of it.
$100 for a motor at that parts place...--similar vintage used are available for $165---an easy choice. Any ideas for a cheaper motor?
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Post# 25322-12/26/2002-23:31 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Followup on Maytag
MESSAGE: Well was this meant to be a bit of petty trivia to entertain us? If you knew how the belts work(and could recognize a bleach hose that has become detached, and remove the front) why did you ask? Also if I am not mistaken a Maytag washer motor with no belts installed will not turn without obstruction. The springs pull the motor back so that the pulley rubs against the machine.
If however you serious about needing a replacement motor for a Maytag washer I have 4 right now from machines that were parted out. I would be willing to sell for $50 each. You pay shipping. What speed do you need?
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Post# 25323-12/27/2002-17:33 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Gibson
MESSAGE: Well the Gibson Girl came out of hiding and she looks good for her age, but the beginning bid price is way out of line!
Check her out.....
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20714&item=2084661225
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Post# 25324-12/27/2002-22:59 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Gibson
MESSAGE: For a mid 90's set? I don't think so... I wish the seller lots of luck...
-ph
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Post# 25325-12/27/2002-23:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Peace on Earth (1972 800 and LK sets found )
MESSAGE: At a place that I visit every month or 2, there is a 1972 white LK set like I have, and a 1972 avocado 800 set. HQOTS and I might go out and have a look. The 800 set is in better shape than the LK, so we'll see what happens. Least we can do is snap some pics...
-ph
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Post# 25326-12/28/2002-00:17 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Followup on Maytag (Maytag Motor)
MESSAGE: I have a single speed motor for a Maytag.
E-mail me if you are interested.
Live west of Augusta, GA
svb14@hotmail.com
Steve 1-18
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Post# 25327-12/28/2002-01:06 ||| deeptub (Carbondale, IL)
SUBJECT: RE: Followup on Maytag
MESSAGE: If you can get the motor to start by spinning it, I'll bet something is wrong with the centrifigual switch for the start winding. I had that problem on a dishwasher and a dryer. Take the switch off the motor (it's the black cube that all the wires attach to). You'll find a spring-loaded lever on the motor that presses a button on the switch. Make sure it's operating freely. If there's been a bleach accident, it may have gunked up the mechanism for this. Spritz it with electrical parts cleaner, if necessary. Then you can take the switch apart as well to make sure the contacts are clean inside. I'm 400 miles from my manuals...otherwise I could say which leads to check for continuity. I wouldn't jump to replace the motor before I checked this switch, though.
Hope this helps.
T.
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Post# 25328-12/28/2002-03:37 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Washers in Baltimore
MESSAGE: There might be something interesting hiding there..
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2084365101&category=20714
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Post# 25329-12/28/2002-05:04 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Gibson
MESSAGE: I thought Gibson went out in the 80's.
So you saying that the machine may show some type of rusting problems or is it that parts are hard to find for this lady if needed?
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Post# 25330-12/28/2002-10:21 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Maytag POD
MESSAGE: Today is my birthday and I'm delighted with today's POD. A 1956 pink Maytag set. Wish I had the actual machines all tied up in red ribbon. From the illustration of the machine's tub this must be an AMP. The agitator top looks like one. I think this is the same machine Robert unimatic has in white sitting next to his non-AMP sunny yellow. Hooray for pink!
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Post# 25331-12/28/2002-10:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Gibson
MESSAGE: Gibson is still available today in some markets.
This washer is the same as all White-Westinghouse/Frigidaire/Wards Signature washers under the hood. Lots of plastic, poor washability, no reliability. The control panel even looks the same as Westies and Wards of the time. Nothing worth $500 here...
-ph
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Post# 25332-12/28/2002-13:04 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: kinda creapy
MESSAGE: yesterday I stopped at a vacuum store where I have purchased stuff before starting in 1990. They have always had just vacuums mainly used, but some new. This time the new were gone and in the front part of the store were incontinence control products and other similiar related "elderly" care products. The vacuums had been pushed to the back of the store and looked of dusty. The owner is not really that old either hes like in his 40s or 50s.
Well I doubled my vacuum collection with stuff he had in the backroom and hadn't been fixed yet. But then it comes to the realization that I now have probly more than 1/2 of what I want to collect in terms of appliances and I have only been officially collecting for about a month and a half. But the shopping, the hunt shall we say, and the wanting I think are just as much fun as actually finding what you looking for. So its kinda depressing.
Oh well, lol, at least this guy is still selling products that really help a person clean-up. eeUue , kinda creapy.
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Post# 25333-12/28/2002-14:50 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Gibson
MESSAGE: I agree. We're talking about an inferior machine at an inlated price. I can't imagine anyone paying $500 for a used non-classic. You can buy a new Kenmore for about $400.
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Post# 25334-12/28/2002-14:53 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag POD (Happy Birthday!)
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday, Lesto. I hope it's a good one.
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Post# 25335-12/28/2002-15:50 ||| Gennie (Texas)
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (--and Nutone Food Center too)
MESSAGE: We recently purchased a home that has the working NuTone motor built in to the cabinet, but NO attachments. I would like to obtain as many as possible. My e-mail is egjb79088@yahoo.com.
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Post# 25336-12/28/2002-16:59 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag POD (POD)
MESSAGE: Lesto,
I learned about the button and toggle on the inside lid of this vintage MT from this site. But I'm still a little unclear on the "water level button" What part of the agitator actually made contact with button? (just chrome cap?) Was there a problem with gunk weighing the float down after a time? All those years that my Grandmother had that washer, I screwed around with those gadgets and never knew what they were.
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Post# 25337-12/28/2002-17:01 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Washers in Baltimore
MESSAGE: If I were to pick and choose from the photos that were posted, it would be that push button KA......
I like that Jane you gonna hurt your finger machine!
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Post# 25338-12/28/2002-19:15 ||| Jonob (New Zealand)
SUBJECT: Looking for info
MESSAGE: Howdy there
I am from New Zealand and as a child can remember helping my mother with the laundry. We had a Bendix Gyramatic, which had a large soap door on top and the taps were underneath behind a pull down door.There seems to be a couple of models which were called this. The machine may have come out around 1963 - 1964?? I would love sitting up on top of it as it was going. I am trying to find photo's, manuals, video's etc of this machine. Would anyone know where I could get this information. I would be truely greatful.
Hope all had a merry xmas, and you all have a great new year.
Regards
Jon
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Post# 25339-12/28/2002-19:50 ||| chrisfa1 (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: What year is my fridge?
MESSAGE: Hi,
I have a Small GE refrigerator from the 1950's It's a round top, with a magnetic door latch.
Model Number: LB 81SC
Serial# SS649804
Any way to find out what year it was built?
LINK: http://home.socal.rr.com/falin/kitchen.jpg
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Post# 25340-12/28/2002-20:02 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT: Gibson Washer
MESSAGE: Is this Gibson washer going to be in the museum under Frigidaire?
Chris
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Post# 25341-12/28/2002-20:05 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag POD (Happy Birthday!)
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday Les,
May you have the washers of your dreams.
Peter
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Post# 25342-12/28/2002-20:08 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Gibson (500!)
MESSAGE: Is this guy dreaming or what - he must know nothing about appliances. He may have a chance if he drops the two zeros!!
Peter
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Post# 25343-12/28/2002-20:37 ||| Imperial70 (Mass)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Front Loader
MESSAGE: Hi All,
I'm just curious about the front loader Frigidaires (that also have been labeled as GE and Kenmore). I noticed that Electrolux owns the Frigidaire label (as well as Gibson, White Westinghouse, Tapan and a few others). Is the Front Loader an Electrolux product from the Netherlands or is it the old Westinghouse front loader that my mom had in the early 60's that tried to gain popularity again in the 70's with Pearl Baily advertising them as economical. (The "weigh to save door")
thoughts, comments?
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Post# 25344-12/28/2002-21:05 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag POD (Happy Birthday!)
MESSAGE: Today's my birthday too!
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Post# 25345-12/28/2002-21:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: What year is my fridge?
MESSAGE: Does it have those half round rotating shelves in it? An aunt of mine had one that looked like this on the outside that had a magnetic latch and those shelves, and it was purchased about 1959.
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Post# 25346-12/28/2002-21:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag POD (Happy Birthday!)
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday to you, Lesto and anyone else that might have a birthday right about now! I celebrated mine (41) last Monday! :-)
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Post# 25347-12/28/2002-21:19 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Gibson Washer
MESSAGE: No. That particular machine is probably fairly recent. We deal pretty much only in appliances that more classic/vintage. Most often it has been things that are 20-25 years old, but sometimes that changes depending on the member and their particular interest. We don't generally acknowledge much of the Frigidaire line after it left General Motors around 1980 or 81. For this same reason you won't see a whole lot of things like 80s Whirlpools and things like that. Usually postwar on into the 70s (think harvest gold, copper, avacado kind of eras). The appliance forum at thathomesite.com is a place where people will often gather to talk about later appliances, as well as the Applianceville Sandbox in Yahoo Groups.
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Post# 25348-12/28/2002-21:46 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag POD (Happy Birthday!)
MESSAGE: Oh Happy Birthday to you also
Happy Washing
Peter
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Post# 25349-12/28/2002-21:47 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag POD (Happy Birthday!)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott,
I didn't realize it was your Birthday also
Happy Birthday to You
Peter
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Post# 25350-12/28/2002-22:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag POD (Happy Birthday!)
MESSAGE: thank you Peter!
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Post# 25351-12/28/2002-22:36 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag POD (Happy Birthday!)
MESSAGE: Hooray! Another capricorn!
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Post# 25352-12/28/2002-23:23 ||| chrisfa1 (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: What year is my fridge?
MESSAGE: Nope. No rotating shelves. Just old fashioned round wire shelves. And one drawer at the bottom. And shelves and and egg holder in the door.
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Post# 25353-12/28/2002-23:25 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Gibson Washer
MESSAGE: Absolutely not!!!
-ph
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Post# 25354-12/28/2002-23:36 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Front Loader
MESSAGE: It's a completely new design.
-ph
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Post# 25355-12/28/2002-23:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Sandbox link
MESSAGE: Did someone put a link to the Sandbox on our member links page? I can never find my way there...
-ph
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Post# 25356-12/29/2002-00:26 ||| Bill-MO (Brookline Station, MO)
SUBJECT: Vintage Hoover Washer
MESSAGE: Hi Y'all,
Wasn't sure if anyone would be interested, but someone on eBay has a vintage Hoover twin tub washer up for auction. The main pic didn't load for me, but if you click on the side ones, they should load up for you.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20714&item=2084152779
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Post# 25357-12/29/2002-00:29 ||| Bill-MO (Brookline Station, MO)
SUBJECT: Bendix Washer Soap
MESSAGE: Hi y'all, it's me again...another cute auction on eBay...this one is for a 1940's Bendix washer that is carved out of castile soap...thought it would be good for someone's collection!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13596&item=750993342
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Post# 25358-12/29/2002-03:02 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Front Loader
MESSAGE: Hi,
We would like to keep the discussion to classic appliances only. On the Appliances Forum of the Gardenweb modern appliances are extensively disussed. The link will lead you to that forum. There are several threads about the Frigidaire frontloader.
Louis
PS: Electrolux is from Sweden, not from the Netherlands
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/appl/
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Post# 25359-12/29/2002-03:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Sandbox link (for off topic discussions)
MESSAGE: Peter,
Here's the link again. Save it with your favourite links so it will be easy to find. You should also save the emailaddress, so you can post without logging on to the group, just send a mail. I think Robert was going to place the link on the Homepage, but I guess he is still busy.
Louis
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/
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Post# 25360-12/29/2002-03:13 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Hoover Washer
MESSAGE: Brown is not my favourite color, but it's a beauty!
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Post# 25361-12/29/2002-03:46 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Hoover Washer
MESSAGE: I've never seen a Hoover twin tub in this color.
I know that it came in White and Avocado but not Coppertone!
Wow, a fun little machine to play with!
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Post# 25362-12/29/2002-08:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Sandbox link (for off topic discussions)
MESSAGE: Thank you, Louis. You're a gem.
-ph
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Post# 25363-12/29/2002-09:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Hoover Washer
MESSAGE: This is in nice shape - beware of the pump though, it may work now but they are prone to trouble and no longer available in this country. I saw about twenty of these Hoover twin-tub washers in Iowa last summer - all needed pumps.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/June+2002+Iowa+Hunting&.src=ph&.dnm=Dsc00242.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/June%2b2002%2bIowa%2bHunting%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25364-12/29/2002-10:03 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Today's POD
MESSAGE: What an ingenious idea. I had no idea that anyone made a portable dishwasher that was designed to be stored inside a stove. I like the glass lid too. I always thought that dishwashers should have windows. I want to be able to watch the action.
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Post# 25365-12/29/2002-11:42 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Hoover Washer
MESSAGE: Oh its coffee. so cool. I don't even know how to operate one of those though. I was wondering who is interested in these because I know a guy who has like 4 of the dryers and several of the these washers if anyone is interested. I just don't know how sought after/rare they are.
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Post# 25366-12/29/2002-11:54 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: birthdays & hoover washers
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday fellows.
Yes, I'd like a Hoover washer, please...mainly for the extractor, of course...but it's cute all over, actually, if you can dig manual laundry....Santa brought me some rubber gloves and a laundry basket...
BOB
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Post# 25367-12/29/2002-11:59 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Hoover Washer
MESSAGE: When I was like 7 our Frigidaire washer broke and before replacing it with a new Whirlpool set a relative lent their portable Hoover washer to my mother to use. I remember being interested but she shooed me away for fear I might break it.
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Post# 25368-12/29/2002-12:44 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Vintage Hoover Washer
MESSAGE: ...I think my mother must have talked with Jason D.s (Hqots)mom who warned her about how little kids might mess around with Hoover washer/dryers
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Post# 25369-12/29/2002-15:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Pictures
MESSAGE: Here are some pictures I took last Sunday, when Robert, Neal and I were invited to Don Shier's (Jetaction) home. Enjoy!
LINK: http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=1504554&uid=814581&members=1
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Post# 25370-12/29/2002-16:21 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag POD (Happy Birthday!)
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday, BsmntFullOSuds. I hope it was a good one!
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Post# 25371-12/29/2002-16:22 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Pictures
MESSAGE: Great pictures, Scott. Thanks for sharing. It looks like a good time was had by all. Thanks again.
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Post# 25372-12/29/2002-17:17 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Pictures (Pictures)
MESSAGE: I love these pictures
I am glad you guys had a nice time
I like the way the lights - light up on that Tappan
I love the Poppy 1/18 - that I am very partial to, because my Aunt had one just a little older (74) which I used to use all the time to wash.
Have a Happy New Year to all
Peter
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Post# 25373-12/29/2002-17:36 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Pictures
MESSAGE: What great shots! Thanks for sharing. The Tappen is really nice. Wise I had one.
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Post# 25374-12/29/2002-19:59 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: PICTURES/ TAPPAN DELUXE
MESSAGE: Wow! What a beauty! Now THERE'S one I've definately never seen, or even heard tale of...
That must be a joy to behold. You should be very proud of that range. It's a GEM.
Happy Holidays
BOB
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Post# 25375-12/29/2002-20:01 ||| Mrsebear (DE/NJ)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire 1950's refridgerator & oven
MESSAGE: Looking to sell a 1950's fridgidaire and oven. Refridgerator still works the stove top and clock work on the oven.
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Post# 25376-12/29/2002-21:59 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: PICTURES/ TAPPAN DELUXE (Tappan Doughboy)
MESSAGE: My aunt and my grandma had this 40" range. I don't remember the knobs lighting up, of course they were probably burnt out and never replaced. Those stoves are beautiful!
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Post# 25377-12/29/2002-22:52 ||| chrisfa1 (Northridge, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1950's refridgerator & oven
MESSAGE: ok, where do you live?
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Post# 25378-12/29/2002-23:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: PICTURES/ TAPPAN DELUXE (Tappan Doughboy)
MESSAGE: Jason, I have seen less deluxe models of this range where the knobs don't light up. This is the first time I have seen the lightup knobs. They are so neat!
Glad everyone is enjoying the pictures!
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Post# 25379-12/29/2002-23:05 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: PICTURES/ TAPPAN DELUXE (Tappan Doughboy (antiqueappliances.com had one for sale))
MESSAGE: That range is beautiful! Until recently, antiqueappliances.com had a Tappen Doughboy (complete with the original salt and pepper shakers) listed for sale. To say that I spent a lot of time drooling over it would be an understatement. It recently sold for $3,400.00! Here's a link to their pic of the open unit.
http://www.antiqueappliances.com/images/treasures/1952tappandeluxe_small.jpg
LINK: http://www.antiqueappliances.com/images/treasures/1952tappandeluxe_small.jpg
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Post# 25380-12/29/2002-23:24 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Pictures
MESSAGE: Thanks so much for sharing these pictures Scott. They were really great. I have never seen a Tappan range with the light of knobs. Really neat!!
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Post# 25381-12/29/2002-23:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: PICTURES/ TAPPAN DELUXE (Tappan Doughboy (antiqueappliances.com had one for sale))
MESSAGE: Thanks for posting that! You can get a glimpse of the storage compartments behind the left door, and how the porcelain burner covers clip into the door on each side. I don't usually get excited over gas ranges, but these are really something special!
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Post# 25382-12/29/2002-23:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pictures
MESSAGE: Welcome back Terry! Glad you enjoyed the pictures!
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Post# 25383-12/29/2002-23:39 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: Hello
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone,
Just wanted to say hello and that I'm thrilled to have found this website! I'm glad to know I'm not alone with my interest/fascination in old washers and other machines!!!
JS
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Post# 25384-12/30/2002-00:35 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Hello
MESSAGE: Welcome and enjoy, we're glad you're here! Have you been into the museum and so forth to check out the nifty pictures and videos?
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Post# 25385-12/30/2002-01:18 ||| Erkjoey (Los Angeles, California)
SUBJECT: RE: PICTURES/ TAPPAN DELUXE (Tappan Doughboy (antiqueappliances.com had one for sale))
MESSAGE: My Grandmother had the exact same Tappen. Beautiful.. I should have gotten my mits on it when I had the chance :((
Happy New Year Everyone!
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Post# 25386-12/30/2002-01:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Pictures
MESSAGE: Thank you Your Majesty for sharing the pictures with us. Wow, what a smashing range! We absolutely love it!
QLOTOC
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Post# 25387-12/30/2002-07:24 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: rapidry picture
MESSAGE: Scott, on the picture of the Rapidry, what was the white thing on top of the agitator?
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Post# 25388-12/30/2002-07:26 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Tappan and other Pics
MESSAGE: Happy New Year and Hi to all! A special thanks to Scott for posting the pics when they were over, and thanks to you all for all the nice comments. I worked hard on that stove all summer, and the washers and dryers are on going. There are so many bells and whistles on that stove, and I love bells and whistles. Thanks again everyone, hope to see you in 2003! Don
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Post# 25389-12/30/2002-07:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Tappan and other Pics
MESSAGE: Thanks for opening your collection to us, Don! Your home is immaculate and you have some very beautiful appliances. The tappan range is absolutely stunning, you've done a beautiful job on it.
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Post# 25390-12/30/2002-08:43 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: Happy New Year!!! Maytag...& "Far From Heaven"
MESSAGE: I remember hearing on this site some time ago that the reason Maytags lasted so long was that they didn't DO much. Slow spin speed, slow agitation, etc. If it doesn't move much, it isn't as likely to break down. A friend in Ann Arbor has a early 70's Halo of Heat dryer and matching washer. He claims that the spin speed was over 1000 rpm...Can anyone verify that? He does have a much newer Whirlpool that he uses for most of his wash(claims it gets the clothes cleaner), but the dryer is still his primary dryer.
We saw "Far From Heaven". Great movie, great 1950's cars, but NO appliances on display! The house in the movie is perfect for entertaining, and one just knows that the kitchen HAD to be full of all of the latest devices. Apparently the kitchen was the maid's domain! One minor blooper I caught- the house had dimensional ashphalt shingles- definitely not available in 1957! I don't believe they were available until the 70's. Director Todd Haynes could've rented some of appliances from the folks here for a truly authentic 50's kitchen!
Enjoy your New Year! May it bring many new (old!) appliances into everyone's lives!
Duane
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Post# 25391-12/30/2002-08:49 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy New Year!!! Maytag...& "Far From Heaven"
MESSAGE: I owned an early 1970's Maytag "halo of heat" gas dryer and matching suds saver washer. I can definitely say the spin speed on the washer was not fast. But I enjoyed the lit washtub! I used to get impatient with the dryer, it seemed to be so pokey with heavier items. Did the electric version dry any faster?
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Post# 25392-12/30/2002-09:00 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: GE VS HOTPOINT
MESSAGE: Were GE and HP always together or did GE buy HP at some point? When our house was built in 57 the dw was a HP. It was front opening with roll out racks. Our neighbors built about the same time had GE pull out drawer type. Our other applainces were built in Westys. The intercom we had was built into the kitchen wall. The neighbors had full GE kitchen and intercom was integrated into the hood and also had the push buttons for the GE range, very cool!! We both had GE fridge with demi luna swing out shelves. BTW our dw leaked from day one around door gasket. Our kitchen was Sunny Yellow, neighbors Coffee Brown and another neighbor had GE built ins with HP dw in aqua, she always had Frigidaire Washers, those were the days!!
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Post# 25393-12/30/2002-10:53 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Pictures (59 Lady Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Thanks for sharing these photos. I love the 59 Lady. The timer dial is one of the most unusual I've ever seen on a Kenmore with no indication for rinse and spin.
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Post# 25394-12/30/2002-10:57 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: 52 GE range
MESSAGE: Some friends of mine recently bought a house and in the kitchcen is a 1952 GE range in mint condition. They had a certified GE repairman out to check it over and since it's in such excellent condition they have decided not to replace it. It has double ovens and clear push button controls. The GE logo lights up in red!
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Post# 25395-12/30/2002-11:33 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 52 GE range
MESSAGE: If that GE range is like the one I remember, the clear pushbuttons would also light and in different colors to indicate the level of heat selected.
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Post# 25396-12/30/2002-11:38 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: PICTURES/ TAPPAN DELUXE (Tappan Doughboy (antiqueappliances.com had one for sale))
MESSAGE: Happy New Year Erik! It is so good to see you here! From all you have told me over time, your grandparents had some wonderful appliances!
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Post# 25397-12/30/2002-11:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Pictures
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
It is but our pleasure to share these wonderful photos of our outings and of others' collections. It is a rarity for us to feel excitement over a gas-fired range, but this particular one is just so incredible that we readily make exception.
A very happy new year to you!!
QEOM
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Post# 25398-12/30/2002-11:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: rapidry picture
MESSAGE: That is a fabric softener dispenser attachment, which I understand works quite well! I have one in a box that I found at an estate sale, only I believe Robert told me it was for a 1-18. It is more of a flat, saucer shaped one.
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Post# 25399-12/30/2002-11:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: GE VS HOTPOINT
MESSAGE: I'm not sure about the two companies themselves, though I know someone here will have the answer. However, until about 1974 I believe it was, each ran their own line of appliances, and then they gradually merged to the point where Hotpoint was to GE what Kenmore is to Whirlpool; different design and features but same basic insides.
I have had the privilege to see one of the Hotpoint solid tub washers in action, they are very nice machines!
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Post# 25400-12/30/2002-11:48 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 52 GE range
MESSAGE: Good for them! What a wonderful range this must be!
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Post# 25401-12/30/2002-12:03 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: Pictures
MESSAGE: The Tappen is the same as what my parents had before they bought the big Frigidaire Flaire in 1964. The Tappen was placed in the house when built in in 1948 they still have the Salt and Pepper shakers. The Ironrite ironer is the same too. Really bring back memories. We also had the 1949 Frigidaire refrigerator all roundy. The ironer still worked in 1994 when they moved to a smaller house. I wanted it but didn't have room for it. They sold at sale for $5.00. To this day my mother still wishs for the Flair. Had double ovens.
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Post# 25402-12/30/2002-12:48 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: 52 GE range (Antique Appliances has a 1952 GE for sale. My aunt had one just like it. )
MESSAGE: I'm currently drooling over the 1952 double oven push button GE that www.antiqueappliances.com has listed for sale for $4,200.00. The push buttons are multi-colored. Here's a link:
http://www.antiqueappliances.com/treasures/1952GE.htm
It's another gem of a range. One of my aunts had one just like it. It was replaced when she remodeled her kitchen. I was still in school at the time or I would have grabbed it and placed it in storage. :-(
LINK: http://www.antiqueappliances.com/treasures/1952GE.htm
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Post# 25403-12/30/2002-13:28 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: 52 GE range (Antique Appliances has a 1952 GE for sale. My aunt had one just like it. )
MESSAGE: That's the one my friends have! I'll be sure and let them know what a valuable item is sitting in their kitchen.
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Post# 25404-12/30/2002-15:37 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: a buck for a computerized belt drive kenmore in ga
MESSAGE: yadda yadda yadda
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2085145862&category=20714
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Post# 25405-12/30/2002-16:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy New Year!!! Maytag...& "Far From Heaven"
MESSAGE: If your friend had a Maytag portable washer and dryer (also halo of heat design) the twin-tub washer's spinner was over 1000 rpm, but not in the regular full-size machines unless he made some very radical changes. Even with a 50 cycle pulley making it about 25% faster agitation and spin speed, mine is still nowhere near 1000 rpm.
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Post# 25406-12/30/2002-17:03 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: activator/happy new year
MESSAGE: Happy new year to all! I hope some vintage automatics turn up in 2003! (Like more Unimatics, an Apex or Universal, and maybe an Easy.)
And Jamie...here's another agitator (or activator as GE called them) for your collection. Do you have one of these? I thought it could make a nice lamp for someone...love the aqua color.
Rich
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20714&item=2084359265
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Post# 25407-12/30/2002-17:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 52 GE range (Antique Appliances has a 1952 GE for sale. My aunt had one just like it. )
MESSAGE: This might have been the "Stratoliner" model. If you drool over this one, the "Super Stratoliner" had a deep fryer attachment for the deep well, salt and pepper shakers built into the backsplash on the right side and a full-width panel light.
Gotta love that GE marketing for naming the ranges. Stratoliner, Liberator, Mainliner, Airliner, Stewardess - sends a shiver down your spine!
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Post# 25408-12/30/2002-17:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: activator/happy new year
MESSAGE: Just like the one in the '74 Dispensall washer I just found - too bad they don't have the dispenser tray from under the lid up for auction! That agitator running at 100 strokes per minute makes for a lot of lint, but the Super Filter Flo makes up for it!
Happy New Year Rich & all!
- greg
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Post# 25409-12/30/2002-18:04 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: 52 GE range (Super stratoliner)
MESSAGE: My friend's new 52 GE has the built in salt & pepper and full-length backpanel light. They are cookig New Years Eve dinner for about ten people on it tomorrow night So I will enjoy a meal prepared on it.
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Post# 25410-12/30/2002-18:06 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 52 GE range (Antique Appliances has a 1952 GE for sale. My aunt had one just like it. )
MESSAGE: Yeah, but the guys at AntiqueAppliances.com complete disassemble, clean, reassemble, test and replace parts for the entire stove. Many manhours of work are represented in that price. They know they have a captive audience. I really don't think that Joe Homeowner is going to get $4k for a stove straight out of their house. Gansky is having a hard time selling a multi-thousand dollar Chambers range for even a few hundred bucks.
-ph
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Post# 25411-12/30/2002-19:34 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: 52 GE range (Antique Appliances has a 1952 GE for sale. My aunt had one just like it. )
MESSAGE: $4200 bucks. Nah I don't believe it. It sounds like someone is trying inflate prices. Fluff, if you will. I guess thats good. But who and WHY would you spend that kind of money for something, so, well, I guess everyone to their own choices but $4200?
Unless your in this collecting just for the $, putting a price on any piece just seems to take away from its personal value. Its like sticking a price tag on your child,(if you have them) and selling them at auction. Wether I pay $250 for a piece or pick it up off the curb the value is in what it means to me. Thats my take anyway.
Hell if you can get $4200 for a stove with a standing pilot all the more power to you.
I wonder do these companies that refurbish replace these "functioning" parts with more modern ones?
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Post# 25412-12/31/2002-07:02 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: MAN HOURS OF LABOR & VALUE
MESSAGE: Over 80 hours of labor went into a certain washer that I had owned for years, and it is my thinking that some of you younger collectors have NO IDEA what these machines are actually worth...That GE Stratoliner range is worth every penny of 4 thousand dollars fully restored, and I say we'll all live to see the day when the range is worth 10 Grand. You folks who expect fully restored vintage machines to be worth only 150 bucks are full of crap, and should go into the used junk business. THE WHOLE POINT of this hobby is to create something of GREAT VALUE out of someone else's discarded waste...
Next time one of you fellows puts over 100 hours of yourself into a vintage washer -- sell it for 150.00,,,and then tell me how you feel about it...
I say, a restored washer is worth 1,000 bucks, minimum, if it is over 35 years old and appears and operates as it should. You folks need to get it out of your mind that they're worth any LESS. I, for one, will NEVER AGAIN sell another of my machines for less than 1,000 a unit. Perhaps I will never again sell one, either...in which case, I'll always have a lifetime supply of vintage machines, which are worth a hell of a lot more than 150.00 a piece..also, by the way, none are for sale at this time.
Happy New Year
BOB
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Post# 25413-12/31/2002-07:02 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: MAN HOURS OF LABOR & VALUE
MESSAGE: Over 80 hours of labor went into a certain washer that I had owned for years, and it is my thinking that some of you younger collectors have NO IDEA what these machines are actually worth...That GE Stratoliner range is worth every penny of 4 thousand dollars fully restored, and I say we'll all live to see the day when the range is worth 10 Grand. You folks who expect fully restored vintage machines to be worth only 150 bucks are full of crap, and should go into the used junk business. THE WHOLE POINT of this hobby is to create something of GREAT VALUE out of someone else's discarded waste...
Next time one of you fellows puts over 100 hours of yourself into a vintage washer -- sell it for 150.00,,,and then tell me how you feel about it...
I say, a restored washer is worth 1,000 bucks, minimum, if it is over 35 years old and appears and operates as it should. You folks need to get it out of your mind that they're worth any LESS. I, for one, will NEVER AGAIN sell another of my machines for less than 1,000 a unit. Perhaps I will never again sell one, either...in which case, I'll always have a lifetime supply of vintage machines, which are worth a hell of a lot more than 150.00 a piece..also, by the way, none are for sale at this time.
Happy New Year
BOB
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Post# 25414-12/31/2002-09:54 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Straight Vane Acitivator Question
MESSAGE: Hey, how come I have nly seen machines that have Straight Vane Activators with four fins when the one in my collection only has three Straight Vanes? What is going on?
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Post# 25415-12/31/2002-11:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Straight Vane Acitivator Question (Different brands, different designs)
MESSAGE: It depends on the brand. Maytag, GE, and a few others has 4 vanes. Kenmore, Whirlpool has 3, 4, and 5 vanes (Penta-Vane, Penta-Swirl). My direct drive Whirlpool had 4 vanes. My little Lady K has 3. That's what makes old washers so cool because they were so different.
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Post# 25416-12/31/2002-11:35 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Straight Vane Acitivator Question (Different brands, different designs)
MESSAGE: But, both of the agitators I am talking about are marked GE.
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Post# 25417-12/31/2002-11:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Happy New Year
MESSAGE: BOOM! Pop!pop!poppoppoppop! crackle crackle
It's time once again for that maniacal pyromaniac in me to emerge and ring in the new with loud explosions, flashing lights, and lots and lots and lots of smoke.
FIRE!!!
LINK: http://members.cox.net/rotoswirl/images/boom.jpg
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Post# 25418-12/31/2002-12:34 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Straight Vane Acitivator Question (Different brands, different designs)
MESSAGE: I believe your referring to the difference between an agitator for the standard capacity and the supercapacity. The latter of which I know has 4 vanes-straight if that is what you have. More vanes to move the larger volume of water.
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Post# 25419-12/31/2002-12:39 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy New Year
MESSAGE: HE's armed, He's dangerous. He going to place explosives in peoples heating vents.
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Post# 25420-12/31/2002-13:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy New Year (uhhh no)
MESSAGE: No, they dont' go in the heating vent. Not in mine at least.
Ka-Boom!
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Post# 25421-12/31/2002-13:22 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: 52 GE range (Antique Appliances has a 1952 GE for sale. We had one similar... )
MESSAGE: What amazes me after going to the antique appliance site is that GE was using pushbuttons THAT early on. There is a 1946 apartment size stove that has the pushbuttons on the site. We had a Turquoise 40" in Phoenix when I was a kid in the mid-70's; I assumed it was from the later 50's, could've been earlier. Loved that stove! They DO seem to be durable, though most of the bulbs in the pushbuttons had burned out in ours. My Dad was great at fixing appliances, but never thought that to be a priority. I REALLY wish we had room for that stove when we moved to Beaver Island(the folks thought of it)but there was not room and since we were to build a brand new house, Mom wanted new appliances. Alas, A lack!
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Post# 25422-12/31/2002-13:31 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy New Year!!! Maytag...& "Far From Heaven"
MESSAGE: I think that the elec. version was even slower-Tom mentioned in the past it took awhile for a load. Still, he's using it 30 years later!
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Post# 25423-12/31/2002-13:44 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN HOURS OF LABOR & VALUE
MESSAGE: I too know the feeling of putting in a lot time and effort for an appliance that means alot to me.
Seeing those pictures of DonShiers stove and numerous others here at Applianceville is truly Impressive. I can just imagine the amount of time and effort that has gone towards these sometimes rare and difficult to find parts for machines.
It is great that one would be able to get appreciation on these machines. We live in a material world and the numbers would have it that the older a machines is the fewer were made because there were fewer consumers. And the number of machines from those "batches" that have survived would be even smaller. And just like anything else when there is either lack of quantity or increased demand the value can go up. There is no comparison to the appliances being pooped out today. All looking the same and in numbers that are I'm sure astounding.
I agree with you about not selling my own appliances. I know that there is very little monitary value at this time for what I own. But if someone were to offer some outragous figure, no matter what it might be, I wouldn't part with them. Being a contrarian I would be freaked out if someone did. I think that would take some of the fun out of it for me. Just yesterday I found a 1983 Kenmore washer in Coffee in top condition. I am amazed no rust, no dents/scratchs, so clean. the only thing was that a hose came off and they were going to through it out. It was literaly within 20' of the crusher. But I saved it. And what a beauty it is works perfect. I also found a 1981 Lady Kenmore computerized washer in AVACODO. Oh I am in HEaaven. It does need work but it is beautiful and it works even the computer. Even if it didn't and the computer cost $200 It would still be a find and I would not hesitate to order a new computer. And a Jenn-aire stove top complete with griddle and all the attachments probly from late 70's. nicely packed in the box the one that replaced it came in. (As you can see from my profile I don't do stoves but my parents need a replacement for their cottage) plus a GE harvest gold range hood(perfect for my 70's house). And a 1980 17" metal frame square box fan(so cute), I had one of these once. And not one of the plastic grill fins are broke. God I love that. And a 1980s copy machine cabinet in beige with wheels in perfect condition, just needs a lite cleaning. perfect for, well, my copymachine. I spent around $50 for all. but I would have spent alot more.
As I have said before, If I see anything that I think anyone here can use I will let you know. Speaking of which didn't someone recently say they were looking for a GE 1985 Spotscrubber washer. I saw one in very good condition in Almond with the Filter-Flo pan and fabric softner dispenser. (Missing Mini-basket though). Also 2 stoves from like the 1920's one is Hotpoint . They look like animals with their long legs. Also a 1950s rounded corners refrigerator GE I think. And a late 60's early 70s Kenmore white electric 600 dryer. It looks to me like a 800, but says 600. (And I would have got it straight out if it were only to match my 800 washer but its not). so let me know if you are interested and I will do what I can to help you get them.
Steve
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Post# 25424-12/31/2002-13:44 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: Happy New Year!!
MESSAGE: Wishing everyone in Applianceville a Safe, Happy, and Healthy New Year!! Terry
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Post# 25425-12/31/2002-15:53 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy New Year!!
MESSAGE: Happy New Year to Terry and all!
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Post# 25426-12/31/2002-16:08 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: NEW WASHER AND DRYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: I JUST FOUND OUT THAT WE ARE GETTING A NEW WASHER AND DRYER THIS WEEK! AND, HERE IS THE BEST PART! I GET TO CHOOSE WHAT WE BUY! IT IS COMPLETELY UP TO ME! I AM SO EXCITED! THIS WEEK!
YYYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
BEST Washes
-Jamie-
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Post# 25427-12/31/2002-16:28 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: NEW WASHER AND DRYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Well isn't that wonderful, and won't it be fun! Do your research on the net or in the stores, and let us know what you pick and why! Happy New Year
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Post# 25428-12/31/2002-18:56 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: NEW WASHER AND DRYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: There are so many choices out there and it's up to you to get the type of machine that has the most dramatic washing action....
If I were to choose a machine today, it would be a front loader! For it allows you to see whats going on inside without jimmying the saftey switch. Most top loaders of todays machine has the dual action agitator and all performs the same way, trist and turn sloshing at the base, but whatever you choose, I hope that it will please you as well as your parents!
Good luck and happy washing in the New Year!
CleanteamofNY
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Post# 25429-12/31/2002-23:25 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool set
MESSAGE: Have fun.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2085567527&category=20714
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Post# 25430-12/31/2002-23:41 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT: 2003 Classic Appliances Museum
MESSAGE: Are you guys ready for the year 2003?
What washers are you going to put in the museum?
Will Westinghouse open this year in the museum?
Happy new year!
Chris
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/washthisway
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Post# 25431-1/1/2003-00:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool set
MESSAGE: Those are fun to see! Someone took nice care of those!
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Post# 25432-1/1/2003-00:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 2003 Classic Appliances Museum
MESSAGE: Happy New Year! Part of the fun will be to see what might happen in the museum as the new year progresses, and what folks will be adding to their own personal museums!
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Post# 25433-1/1/2003-00:56 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool set
MESSAGE: wow the year i was born!! I might just have to get me those, wonder where sunnyvale is.....
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Post# 25434-1/1/2003-02:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool set
MESSAGE: On a map it appears to be just NW of San Jose, so unfortunately quite a ways from you. Nice long weekend jaunt perhaps? :)
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Post# 25435-1/1/2003-05:51 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Happy New Year!
MESSAGE: I hope that everyone has a happy, healthy New Year.
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Post# 25436-1/1/2003-08:45 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: ge/hotpoint
MESSAGE: Today's POD make me wonder when ge & hp "merged". We had that style d/w (built in), but neighbors house built same time had the drawer type ge. Did ge always own hp or were they seperate?
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Post# 25437-1/1/2003-08:58 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Happy New Year!
MESSAGE: Wishing you all Health, Happiness and Prosperity for the New Year!
Louis
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Post# 25438-1/1/2003-09:31 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool set
MESSAGE: Yeh what the heck I'll probably go up there =) no biggie.
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Post# 25439-1/1/2003-10:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: ge/hotpoint
MESSAGE: Happy New Year!
If I remember correctly, GE bought Hotpoint sometime in the 1920's to get the Calrod heating element. The origin of the name Hotpoint (by Edison Electric?) was from their irons because at the time, they designed a model that got hot all the way to the tip of the soleplate - thus, Hot-Point. If anyone knows more exact dates, please speak up!
Hotpoint was run as a separate company, but used many GE components in their refrigerators and ranges. The washers and dryers were produced at a separate factory and were of completely different designs than the GE products. Very early Hotpoint washers were of Beam design, the very first in 1949 had two motors - one for agitate and one for spin functions. Their designs incorporated some Beam (later known as Franklin) components through the mid to late 50's as Hotpoint's designs evolved into their own - Coaxial transmission, variable speeds, etc. Hotpoint also produced machines in the 1960's for Easy.
Sometime in the late 60's, Hotpoint began using GE dryers and then in 1974 or so, the solid-tub Hotpoint washer was scrapped and became another GE clone. While pouring over GE manuals last week looking for info on the '74 Dispensall washer I found, I found a section on a GE branded washer that was made by Hotpoint (solid-tub) in 1973-4 with "very limited distribuition."
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Post# 25440-1/1/2003-10:49 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool set (1978)
MESSAGE: I wonder if you can turn a direct drive washer into a belt drive.
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Post# 25441-1/1/2003-11:08 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: ge/hotpoint
MESSAGE: Gansky1,
Thanks for the info.
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Post# 25442-1/1/2003-12:17 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: ge/hotpoint (Hotpoint History)
MESSAGE: I had always thought that GE marketed Hotpoint as their "upscale" brand. My only basis for thinking this was that my Grandfather (An electrician for Omaha Public Power) was crazy about appliances and got his through OPPD at a discount. He was very excited when he was able to buy a Hotpoint stove in the late 50's.
Remeber when power companies sold appliances? The OPPD showroom was very modern, and had big display windows that were lit up at night like all the other department stores downtown.
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Post# 25443-1/1/2003-12:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: ge/hotpoint (Hotpoint History)
MESSAGE: I remember that very well Dan and miss those days. Both our electric and gas companies sold appliances, and in fact the gas company continued into the late 80s. I suppose with the proliferation of those box stores it got just as difficult for them as for the department stores and appliance shops, although we do fortunately still have a few good appliance stores in the twin cities.
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Post# 25444-1/1/2003-13:15 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool set (1978)
MESSAGE: Not without some VERY extreme modifications -- the two types of machines are very different in construction, all the way to the cabinet and internal mechanism support design. Belt drive machines have the baseplate (the outer tub sits on top of the baseplate and the transmission/motor mount beneath it) suspended from three corners of the cabinet, and a small panel removes from the back for service access. Direct drive machines have the outer tub sitting on a pedestal at the bottom of the machine, with the transmission and motor below, and outer cabinet removes for service.
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Post# 25445-1/1/2003-13:21 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Today's POD
MESSAGE: That Hotpoint Dishwasher sink has a very unusual faucet. Is that a built-in electric hotwater heater?
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Post# 25446-1/1/2003-13:38 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: ge/hotpoint (Hotpoint History)
MESSAGE: I'm an accountant for the State of New Jersey and I spent a great deal of time working on the issue of appliance sales by our gas and electric companies. (Although it was primarily a gas company issue.) There's more than a few well organized groups that allege that ratepayer money was being used to subsidize both the appliance sales and the showrooms where the appliances were sold. (I.E., at least one of the showrooms was on the first floor of the gas company's headquarters building and it was alleged that the space could have been rented for more money than the utility was paying for space. It's located on a side street, in an urban location that long ago ceased to be a retail mecca. The utility has been trying to rent the space since the showroom closed. The space has been vacant -- and generating no income -- for at least a couple of years.) We could never make a finding that the allegations were true, but in New Jersey at least, the utilities decided to give up the fight and get out of the business. I suspect that similar battles were waged, in other jurisdictions, and that the utilities decided that it just wasn't worth it.
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Post# 25447-1/1/2003-14:07 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: ge/hotpoint (Propane Dealers Still Sell Appliances)
MESSAGE: Almost as soon as I posted about one of the causes of New Jersey's gas and electric companies getting out of the appliance business, it suddenly occurred to me that one of my aunts lives in rural Southwestern Pennsylvania, in a area that does not have natural gas service. She heats with oil, but cooks, heats her water, and dryes her clothes with propane. There's two propane tanks on the side of her house. I also seem to recall that at least one local propane dealer still has an appliance show room. I just did a search for propane dealers in her area and came up with several dealers who still sell appliances. One of them is a national operation. I'm not sure if its a chain or a franchise, but here's a link to it's website:
http://www.amerigas.com/hotwtr.html
Boy did this bring back memories. My aunt's local propane dealer (he's now retired and his kids didn't want any part of the business) had an appliance show room. I used to love to window shop there. There's one machine that I remember in particular. I don't know who made it, but it was a twin top wringer washer. The second tub was not a spinner, like Easy's, but was a second washer. There was an electric wringer in the middle. I always assumed that the second washer was for rinsing clothes. I haven't thought about it in years. Thanks for bringing this up.
LINK: http://www.amerigas.com/hotwtr.html
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Post# 25448-1/1/2003-17:28 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool set (San Jose)
MESSAGE: maybe Dionne Warwick knows the way...
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Post# 25449-1/1/2003-17:32 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Suprise Present!
MESSAGE: Hello everyone.
I hope you are well and have enjoyed recent times.
We just got back from a family holiday to discover that some *&^%&*(^ left a "classic" appliance on our front lawn, a greasy yucky looking GM Holden Frigidaire stove. Now if it was a Washing machine I would of been leaping for joy but now we have to phone the council to organise someone to pick it up and get rid of it. it is heavy and we cant park our car now either.
Not Happy Jan!
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Post# 25450-1/1/2003-18:24 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: ge/hotpoint (Hotpoint History)
MESSAGE: I recall that was true here also. I don't think United Illuminating/Connecticut Light and Power sold appliances, but Southern Connecticut Gas Co had a big office in downtown Bridgeport and the main floor was an appliance showroom. I also think the "box stores" helped eliminate this practice. I don't know that they ever did tremendous volume, so I am sure warehousing, selling and delivering appliances was somewhat costly - probably someone figured that the savings from eliminating this made more money than selling appliances......
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Post# 25451-1/1/2003-18:44 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Happy New Year one and All
MESSAGE: Heard something new about new years day this morning. Rhinnie and I went to a friends in South Carolina for a new year's eve party and spent the night (as did others). This morning, over breakfast, we were discussing plans for later on in the day. Bill said, he was just going to relax, because whatever you do the first day of the year, you will be doing every day for the rest of the year. I immediately said I know I have some laundry to do, were as all the rest of the guys burst into laughter.
Later, I mentioned to Earl (one of the hosts) that I noticed he was doiung dishes and reminded him he'd be doing them the rest of the year.
When I called my mom, I told her the story and she said she'd done a load of wash this morning, too. I asked her if she had swept the walk, yet and she said, no. So I told her she'd been warned.
Best wishes to all!
Steve
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Post# 25452-1/1/2003-18:53 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: Old Kenmore Compact Washer for sale on ebay
MESSAGE: I've never seen one like this.
-Alex
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2085666533&category=20714
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Post# 25453-1/1/2003-19:38 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: ge/hotpoint (Hotpoint History)
MESSAGE: Interesting....I never thought about it in that way. It's probably over 30 years now since the electric company gave up the appliances here, about 15 for the gas company. Our electric company also had a showroom on the main floor of their headquarters downtown, and a very nice one it was. This particular headquarters building houses only operations for the electric company and does not lease space, and the square footage in question has served as office space for them since the store closed. In its heyday in the 60s, there were 4 department stores within about 3 blocks from there that also sold appliances.
Our gas company still sells water heaters, furnaces, a/cs and etc., and they have an excellent appliance repair service. Everything is done by phone or internet now though. We put an automatic humidifier on our furnace (which I LOVE) and they let you pay for it interest free on your gas bill, the term dependent on what you bought and how much you spent.
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Post# 25454-1/1/2003-19:42 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Kenmore Compact Washer for sale on ebay
MESSAGE: Either have I...how interesting. I wonder if it spins. I see a pump switch, so it must be semiautomatic in operation.
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Post# 25455-1/1/2003-20:42 ||| Upfyrman (Gig Harbor, WA)
SUBJECT: Lectro and Host
MESSAGE: Hi everyone I'm new to this and I have a question. A friend of mine has a "Lectro and Host" oven. After searching for information and parts locally and on the internet, I have come up with nothing. Even the appliance repair people who have been in the buisness forever have never heard of it. The oven appears to be of the 40's-50's era, 40"wide, model#8840-3. Any information would be greatly appreciated. My e-mail is: upfyrman@aol.com
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Post# 25456-1/1/2003-20:44 ||| Upfyrman (Gig Harbor, WA)
SUBJECT: Lectro and Host
MESSAGE: Hi everyone I'm new to this and I have a question. A friend of mine has a "Lectro and Host" oven. After searching for information and parts locally and on the internet, I have come up with nothing. Even the appliance repair people who have been in the buisness forever have never heard of it. The oven appears to be of the 40's-50's era, 40"wide, model#8840-3. Any information would be greatly appreciated. My e-mail is: upfyrman@aol.com
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Post# 25457-1/1/2003-21:04 ||| Peteb (Hudson WI)
SUBJECT: hotpoint refrigerator model 12EC7-0
MESSAGE: In an effort to trim my utility bill,I'm going upgrade my beer
refrigerator. How can I find out if its worth trying to sell.
I'm guessing its from the 40's, its in really good shape.
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Post# 25458-1/1/2003-21:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Kenmore Compact Washer for sale on ebay (4th Floor, Small Appliances)
MESSAGE: This is an agitator washer only, it was meant to be used with a wringer that clamped onto the cabinet and paired with a similarly sized dryer. Louis has a similar washer in his collection. In the catalogs I've seen, not found under major appliances, but with small appliances and housewares, late 50's I think. There once was one on ebay, but with a Whirlpool brand name.
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Post# 25459-1/1/2003-21:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: ge/hotpoint (Hotpoint History)
MESSAGE: I don't remember the power company selling appliances but I have a few advertising things from OPPD with ranges, etc. featured - "Good Cooks Go Electric!"
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Post# 25460-1/1/2003-21:57 ||| Bill-Mo (Brookline Station, MO)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Kenmore Compact Washer for sale on ebay (4th Floor, Small Appliances)
MESSAGE: I have one exactly like it in my storage unit with the matching dryer, except mine has the name Nesco on it. First time I ever saw them was in a catalogue that my grandma had back in 1969. The pump went out on mine and the hose cracked as well. The dryer has no thermostat and keeps on running until the time is up...the dryer was more fun to play with.
Happy New Year to everyone...I ate my black-eyed peas for good luck today, did anyone else???
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Post# 25461-1/1/2003-22:00 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: ge/hotpoint (Hotpoint History)
MESSAGE: Oh No! Utility appliance repair services! Guess what issue is currently before our Supreme Court? Yep. We have groups that are against that too. They allege that there's ratepayer subsidization of these services, that independent contractors can't compete with the utilities name recognition, and that they keep losing valued employees because they can't offer the same salary and benefit packages as the utilities. We don't have jurisdiction over the name recognition or employee related issues, but trying to determine if there is any ratepayer subsidization is a full time job for me. At least one gas company has exited the business. They respond to no heat complaints by saying, "We don't offer that service anymore. You have to refer to the yellow pages for assistance." Similar battles are being waged in other states.
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Post# 25462-1/1/2003-22:15 ||| Twodots (Montana)
SUBJECT: G-E Americana Range J795
MESSAGE: I am looking for a timer (clock) for a G-E Americana Range, Model 796A1GR1. It was purchased in 1965. Any hints where to look?
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Post# 25463-1/1/2003-22:28 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Kenmore Compact Washer for sale on ebay (4th Floor, Small Appliances)
MESSAGE: I don't know about the black-eyed peas ritual, please tell me about it.
I just made sure I said "rabbit rabbit" just before my feet touched the floor from getting out of bed this morning.
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Post# 25464-1/1/2003-22:41 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Old Kenmore Compact Washer for sale on ebay (4th Floor, Small Appliances)
MESSAGE: Eating black-eyed peas in some form is for good luck in the new year. No particular ritual to follow that I'm aware of, other than to chew them properly before swallowing!
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Post# 25465-1/1/2003-22:44 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: ge/hotpoint (Propane Dealers Still Sell Appliances)
MESSAGE: The local gas (Entex) utility here had a range, dryer, and water heater on display last I recall, but I haven't noticed in a while.
Back in the 1970's when I first ran into Blackstone washers and dryers, was at an exhibit by another local butane/propane company at the county fair. They are no more -- both that particular gas company, AND Blackstone washers & dryers.
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Post# 25466-1/2/2003-07:18 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Propane Appliance Dealers
MESSAGE: Happy Holidays Everyone!! I haven't posted for sometime as its been to busy. But I would like to say that I remember the propane dealers around NJ and their showrooms with propane appliances too. Eastern and Suburban propane had stand alone showrooms that were always lit up at night displaying their new propane appliances, but thats all gone now. Everything in their showroom is the usual heating/ac items along with bar-b-ques. Sign of the times I guess.
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Post# 25467-1/2/2003-07:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: G-E Americana Range J795
MESSAGE: You might be able to have the clock repaired, often it is just the clock motor that needs replacing. Here are a couple of resources to try:
Mid America Timers Inc. 1-800-803-3264
General Time Repairs 1-712-792-1248
Hope that helps - good luck.
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Post# 25468-1/2/2003-08:21 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: ge/hotpoint (Hotpoint History/gas/electric company repairs & sales)
MESSAGE: An Aunt bought a Arkla Servel, gas absorption, water cooled HVAC system from Atlanta Gas in 1957 with the deal that they would start it and shut it down every season for life (free!!) They actually had to manufacture (jury rig) parts to keep the cooling tower going toward the end. This went on until deregulation hit GA. They claimed that it was no longer "their job" to do this. "And oh, by the way, you need to replace the whole system".
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Post# 25469-1/2/2003-10:19 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Lectro and Host
MESSAGE: There is a reference to Lectro & Host custom built ranges on this web site
LINK: http://www.rollanet.org/~vbeydler/van/100way.htm
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Post# 25470-1/2/2003-10:22 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Lectro and Host
MESSAGE: let's try that again.
LINK: http://www.rollanet.org/~vbeydler/van/100ways.htm
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Post# 25471-1/2/2003-10:25 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Lectro and Host
MESSAGE: I'll get it right eventually!
Look in section that says: "A few users of View Master..."
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Post# 25472-1/2/2003-11:32 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Easy Agitator seller agitates me!
MESSAGE: This is so annoying! I hate it when people don't care about poor Vintage objects! The seller says "A piece broke off but it will still work I hope, blah blah blah..." This really agitates me! I hate when people treat these treasures like trash! Uuuuggggggghhhhhhh!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2085589698&category=20714
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Post# 25473-1/2/2003-12:54 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: NEW WASHER AND DRYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: SUCCESS! I am now a proud owner of a beautiful Duet set! We bought the 8 cycle model and they are both white with dove grey controls and door! They run beautifully! But one question, when we bought them the brochure we looked at before choosing said that it had Catylst Cleaning Action, what happened? Why doesn't ours do it? I know what it is, spinning and spraying soapy water before the wash, but it just starts tumbling, fills with soapy water and then washes for ten minutes, then drains! What happened? Does that only come with the top of the line model? Well thanks in advance!
Best Washes
-Jamie-
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Post# 25474-1/2/2003-14:06 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: NEW WASHER AND DRYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: This is a NEW machine ??
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Post# 25475-1/2/2003-17:29 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: NEW WASHER AND DRYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Yup, They are both brand new.
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Post# 25476-1/2/2003-17:30 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: Kenmore
MESSAGE: So where Sears get the word "Kenmore" from? Did Sears actually ever manufacture their own "Kenmore" appliances? There is a bit of history at the Sears website on Kenmore but neither Sears nor a search on Google could answer my questions.
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Post# 25477-1/2/2003-17:47 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: NEW WASHER AND DRYER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: THANK YOU!!! Let's see where this goes (HINT, HINT)...
;)
-ph
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Post# 25478-1/2/2003-18:07 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: O.M. OF THE MONTH
MESSAGE: Will we be treated to a "owners manual of the month" for 1/03? I swear I've been good. (Oh, yeah christmas is over!)
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Post# 25479-1/2/2003-20:33 ||| mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT: GE Filter Flow found, with option for mini-basket
MESSAGE: I was out walking to a grocery store earlier today, and found a General Elecric belt drive Filter Flo washing machine. It looked to be a 1985 vintage, but I can't be too sure. The unit is in excellent condition for its age and never having been restored. Looking underneath, it looks very clean. A couple houses down, a neighbor allowed me to use his dolly to bring the critter home. So now I have a new addition to my Maytag twin tub and wringer: A GE Filter Flow!
Can anybody tell me where to find a mini-basket that would work with this unit? It's gonna be a summer project. Thanks.
The link below is for our Autism support chat room. If you are unable to connect through Java, then you can follow the instructions on the page for downloading mIRC and installing it. Hope to see you there!
MrCoffee
LINK: http://www.autistichat.net
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Post# 25480-1/2/2003-21:36 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: Rare Find!!
MESSAGE: This Norge is probably a real rare find
Does anyone have more information?
Peter
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13596&item=752078195
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Post# 25481-1/2/2003-21:52 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Happy New Year Everyone
MESSAGE: I know I'm a little late on this, but just wanted to extend to you and your families a happy, healthy and prosperous new year. I'm really enjoying this site and am anxious to see it grow both in material as well as memebership. I'm in some ways envious because I'm on the east coast (PA) and cannot enjoy the get-togethers or the "scavenger hunts" you have, but I am living them vicariously through this site and your videos. Peace to you all my friends!
Dave
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Post# 25482-1/2/2003-22:03 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: davy 1063
MESSAGE: Hey man. I'm in Virginia..and there's plenty of collectors on the east coast...But how is anybody gonna contact you if your have your email address listed as ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~?
Happy New Year, everyone, and Congratulations, Jamie, on your new pair of big front loaders. Enjoy 'em.
PEACE.
BOB
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Post# 25483-1/2/2003-23:11 ||| mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: MAN HOURS OF LABOR & VALUE (I'm pretty sure I found me that Spot Scrubber)
MESSAGE: Did that machine have a water level setting for a mini-basket? If so, then it may very well be what I found. If I had a scanner, I would have a picture of what I have.
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Post# 25484-1/2/2003-23:37 ||| mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: 76 Frigidaire For Sale (Do you have a link?)
MESSAGE: I think most of us would be interested. Do you have a link? How much does this person want for the machine?
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Post# 25485-1/3/2003-00:05 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: Rare Find!! (Norge front loader)
MESSAGE: Hi Pete
Finding one of those WOULD be a rare find. That was Norge's very first automatic washing machine. It was manfactured only a year or two in the late 40's. It is listed on the club's wanted board. That model was probably the very first "Super" capacity machine built for home use. It was discontinued and Norge began making their time-line top loaders in the 50's.
Hope you had a happy new year!
Rich
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Post# 25486-1/3/2003-00:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Rare Find!! (Norge front loader)
MESSAGE: This machine was certainly an interesting offering by Norge, but fared quite poorly in performance. The link is to our site's library of consumer magazine articles for the early automatics - this Norge was rated by CR in Nov. 1950.
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/RATE%20PAGES/LIST-INDEX.htm
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Post# 25487-1/3/2003-00:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 76 Frigidaire For Sale (Do you have a link?)
MESSAGE: It was offered for sale by one of our members in Detroit, check the FOR SALE/Classified section on the homepage for more details.
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Post# 25488-1/3/2003-07:54 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Rare Find!! (Norge front loader)
MESSAGE: In reading the Nov CU tests I see a couple of models available without "pump" I'm not sure I understand why. My guess would be for a gravity drain, but what kept the water in the machine during the cycle?
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Post# 25489-1/3/2003-08:01 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: davy 1063 (correction on email)
MESSAGE: hey, that's wierd, I never noticed that! Well, consider it changed.
Dave
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Post# 25490-1/3/2003-08:04 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: January 3, 2003 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: "Washday pleasure"?
Perhaps if you laid a mattress across the top of the washer and dryer, loaded both and set them for their most vigorous cycles while engaging in intimacy with your life partner, it would certainly add new meaning to the phrase "clean sex". :)
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Post# 25491-1/3/2003-08:51 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: January 3, 2003 Picture of the Day
MESSAGE: This would be one of the few times I would want the washer to get unbalanced during the spin cycle.
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Post# 25492-1/3/2003-09:53 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy New Year Everyone
MESSAGE: Happy New Year Davy! Glad you are enjoying the club! Maybe someday you will get to meet some members in your part of the country, or come to a convention. In all events though, glad you're having fun!
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Post# 25493-1/3/2003-15:09 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Rare Find!! (Washers without pump)
MESSAGE: I don't know about these automatics, but my grandmother had two wringer washers -- a very early electric Easy and a late 1940's Maytag -- without pumps. (She used the Easy to rinse the wash.) The water stayed in the machine as long as the drain hoses were clipped to the side of the machine. She drained them into a floor drain when she was finished doing laundry. The water would sometimes drain prematurely if one of the hoses fell for some reason. (Like if I got a little too close.) That kind of system defeats the purpose of an automatic, IMHO.
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Post# 25494-1/3/2003-16:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Rare Find!! (Washers without pump - solid tub)
MESSAGE: The machines without pumps were usually solid basket machines so only the water that flowed over and then spun out at the top of the wash-tub ran into the outer drain tub and then flowed down the drain. It was usually a little bit cheaper to buy an automatic or wringer washer without a pump if you used a floor drain anyway.
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Post# 25495-1/3/2003-16:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Funny?
MESSAGE: I recently bought a toy washer, together in one package with a vacuum cleaner. It was a very cheap set, but I bought it for fun. When I put batteries in I first thought it didn't work properly. Then I discovered it has a lid switch!!!!!!!! Fortunately there is a window in the lid.....
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Post# 25496-1/3/2003-18:34 ||| mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: 76 Frigidaire For Sale (Thanks for the info Ganski)
MESSAGE: I will go to the classified section and look at it. By the way, does a GE Filter-Flo machine with the mini-basket option have much collector value? This is going to be my summer project.
Also, I want to thank the people who have visited our web site. Please feel free to drop by the channel, and chat any time, as I really do still have an obsession with washing machines. Classic appliances are welcome on the channel, as well as general discussions on Autism if anybody wants to learn more.
Again, thank you all for your response!
LINK: http://www.autistichat.net
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Post# 25497-1/3/2003-19:08 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Look!
MESSAGE: Wow! I would love a pair of these!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=10578&item=2604226994
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Post# 25498-1/3/2003-20:25 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: 76 Frigidaire For Sale (sorry, sold)
MESSAGE: Hi guys,
The washer was repaired, refurbished and offered for sale by yours truly.
It sold to another member member very quickly, and should move off of the "for sale" items list within a few weeks.
Regards and a belated "happy new year" to all.
Watching and washing from the sidelines,
Ken
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Post# 25499-1/3/2003-20:31 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: 76 Frigidaire For Sale (sorry, sold)
MESSAGE: My last post should read "club member" not "member member".
Ken
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Post# 25500-1/3/2003-20:32 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Will all the fellows on the east coast of the U.S. of A. please fall in now by responding to this post, so that we may have a 'roll call, raising of hands' if you will and count how many folks there are....from Florida (lightedcontrols) through Atlanta, Virginia, Maryland, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts, etc. and any point north of there up to Maine...be assured not all folks will respond...but lets see how many CAN...please...
Just how many of us folks ARE on the east coast?
PEACE.
BOB
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Post# 25501-1/3/2003-20:36 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Les...raising his hand for roll call from Atlanta.
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Post# 25502-1/3/2003-20:50 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Tecnopolis -Miami/Fort Lauderdale, Florida
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Post# 25503-1/3/2003-21:00 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS... (RE: East Coast)
MESSAGE: Raising one hand for the East Coast and the middle finger of the other to the West.
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Post# 25504-1/3/2003-21:33 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: As my handle proudly announces ... I'm from New Jersey.
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Post# 25505-1/3/2003-22:24 ||| Kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: What year is my fridge?
MESSAGE: If the schematic diagram is still glued to the back of the fridge, there is a date on it.
Some of the parts, like the thermostat should have a date stamped on them. Of course, these parts may have been replaced at one time.
Ken D.
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Post# 25506-1/3/2003-22:26 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Well, downstate (Southeastern)Connecticut is represented by me (Fairfield County) and the east shore (Northeast)is represented by Shawn from Waterford, CT.
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Post# 25507-1/3/2003-22:35 ||| Kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Greetings from Haledon, New Jersey.
Ken D.
(never been west of central PA)
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Post# 25508-1/3/2003-22:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS... (RE: East Coast)
MESSAGE: Oh now really!!! Young man, I suggest you get to Rome, NY and get yourself some Turkey Joints. That will get you into a more festive spirit!
Peter raising hands in Atlanta...
-ph
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Post# 25509-1/3/2003-22:46 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: How to bid on ebay
MESSAGE: Just how does one bid on eebay for an item?
What do you do if the item is overseas is it possible to bid and pay for P&P or is it too expensive to make it feasible?
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Post# 25510-1/3/2003-23:47 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Penta-Vane, Penta-Swirl...?
MESSAGE: What the heck is the difference between these two agitators? I don't get it, is the Penta-Swirl like a Roto-Swirl with five vanes instead of three? I really don't understand, my position at the moment is in the clouds.
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Post# 25511-1/4/2003-01:25 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Present in Connecticut
Geoff
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Post# 25512-1/4/2003-01:34 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Thanks for anouncing ME, Angus! LOL ;) Southeastern as well :)New Haven County!!
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Post# 25513-1/4/2003-01:36 ||| Boschboy (Portland, OR)
SUBJECT: RE: Penta-Vane, Penta-Swirl...?
MESSAGE: New to the board -- I was surprised (and thrilled!) when I found it. I thought I was the only one like this -- who knew?
Anyway, the Penta-Swirl and Penta-Vane agitators are actually very similar. Both have 5 fins at the base (with rounded scoops between them), and very low profile fins from the base up to the top cap. The Penta-Swirl fins go up at a slight angle, while the Penta-Vane fins go up straight. (Neither version created much washing action at the top of the agitator with a full load, but the bottom fins were quite powerful, much like the Maytag Power Fin agitator.) Both versions came in two heights -- the taller versions having an extra-tall cap on the top of the agitator. I'm not sure when these agitators were introduced, but they seem to have been used mostly on mid-range Kenmores up until the early 1980s. They were the agitator you got if you didn't opt for a machine with the Dual-Action Agitator.
I hope that helps. If anyone else can elaborate, I'd love to know more, too!
BoschBoy
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Post# 25514-1/4/2003-02:01 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: I'm from Brooklyn, NY.
CleanteamofNY
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Post# 25515-1/4/2003-06:17 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Geoff - I knew there was another one of us, sorry that I forgot to include you when I answered...
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Post# 25516-1/4/2003-06:19 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Guess I was just having a brain spasm - how could I forget you?? You were the one who told me where to find Surf tablets at X-pect Discounts in Milford..... Again, my apologies.....
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Post# 25517-1/4/2003-06:22 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS... (Southern Swamps here )
MESSAGE: Located just out of charleston if you consider that the eastern seaboard ... I have missed every convention so far but soon I will make it to one ... if any of you are in the area give a yell
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Post# 25518-1/4/2003-07:22 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Yankees! In Applianceville! How did they ever get in?!!!
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Post# 25519-1/4/2003-07:27 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Kenmore agitator question
MESSAGE: Does anyone know what Sears called that weird agitator they made briefly in the 70's? It was the goldish color, had no fins whatsoever on the post part but had about six paddle-like fins around the base. I don't think it performed very well but it was certainly fun to look at.
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Post# 25520-1/4/2003-07:41 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: steve1-18 Augusta, GA
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Post# 25521-1/4/2003-08:20 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Leslie from Bradenton, Florida
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Post# 25522-1/4/2003-08:24 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: I'm here, Comboboy, Beautiful downtown Monticello, GA.
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Post# 25523-1/4/2003-08:45 ||| kennywhy (Detroit, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Well I'm close, and not on the west coast. Consider my hand raised.
Just wanna be counted in,
Ken in Michigan
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Post# 25524-1/4/2003-08:57 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS... (roll call)
MESSAGE: Hello from East Tennessee-Relatively new to club and not as active as I would like to be-married a lady with 3 kids in April and havent had time to be very active in anything,but wanted to be counted anyway.
Tom
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Post# 25525-1/4/2003-10:19 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Penta-Vane, Penta-Swirl...?
MESSAGE: There are a different between the two agitators.
The Penta-Vane is a straight vane agitator which is very powerful and the Penta-Swirl is a thick base swirling agitator that seems to be made like the Speed Queen agitator the way it is scooped at the base of it.
Correct me if I'm wrong fellas.....
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/vwp?.dir=/Vintage+appliances+found+in+NY/My+new+collection/Kenmore+Agitator&.src=ph&.dnm=Penta-Vane+and+Penta-Swirl.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/lst%3f%26.dir=/Vintage%2bappliances%2bfound%2bin%2bNY/My%2bnew%2bcollection/Kenmore%2bAgitator%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25526-1/4/2003-10:20 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Thanks
MESSAGE: Thank you Steven for the agitator!
I got it and it's in good shape!
CleanteamofNY
Larry
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Post# 25527-1/4/2003-11:05 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Bruce from Boston signing in.
Hello everyone.
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Post# 25528-1/4/2003-11:12 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Penta-Vane, Penta-Swirl...?
MESSAGE: On the subject of Kenmore agitators. I will soon be receiving an early/mid 70's Lady K pushbutton in coppertone with the Penta Swirl agitator.
Kenmore had many agitators in the 70's.
Vari-Flex
Penta-Vane
Penta-Swirl
Roto-Swirl
and Straight Vane
I think that covers it?
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Post# 25529-1/4/2003-11:17 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: Color Matching
MESSAGE: How can I match or find the Coppertone color of the cabinet on the Lady K. The machine is in excellent condition mechanically but the cabinet needs to be repainted.
Can you still find this color somewhere or do you have to try and find someone who will match it.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
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Post# 25530-1/4/2003-11:28 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Penta-Vane, Penta-Swirl...? (The clouds are gone!)
MESSAGE: Aaahhhhhhhh, nowwwww I get it. I have the Penta-SWIRL agitator in white, It is really really heavy compared to my other agitators. Cool, awesome!
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Post# 25531-1/4/2003-12:07 ||| smokey2367 (Titusville, PA)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS... (East Coast)
MESSAGE: I'm from N/W Pennsylvania.
Doug
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Post# 25532-1/4/2003-12:14 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: count me in from Florida! lightedcontrols
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Post# 25533-1/4/2003-12:20 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Color Matching
MESSAGE: Greetings Bruce! Was talking with John Lefever last evening and he was suggesting that the coppertone cabinet be lightly sanded and painted and the porcelain top be taken to a place that does bath tubs and re porcelained/epoxied in the coppertone color. Homo Depot can match the base cabinet paint pretty close. Hope you enjoy the machine! Mark
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Post# 25534-1/4/2003-13:54 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: No Problem Angus :) :) Since you are a fellow southern Connecticut resident, You're ALWAYS forgiven :) :) Have a great weekend
Geoff
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Post# 25535-1/4/2003-15:01 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: Color Matching
MESSAGE: speaking of color matching. Is there a difference between the color "coppertone" of the late 60s and early 70s and the color "coffee" of the late 70s and early 80s?
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Post# 25536-1/4/2003-15:13 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS... (East Coast)
MESSAGE: Southeast Connecticut
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Post# 25537-1/4/2003-15:22 ||| bendixman (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS... (East Coast Raising of Hands!)
MESSAGE: Hello and Happy New Year from the East end, Cold Long Island, New York.
Bruce
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Post# 25538-1/4/2003-16:01 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Penta-Vane, Penta-Swirl...? (Don't forget dual action.)
MESSAGE: Don't forget the dual action agitator.
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Post# 25539-1/4/2003-16:01 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore agitator question (Roto-Flex)
MESSAGE: That would be the Roto-Flex ("gently spanks your laundry clean!"). There are pictures available somewhere, but I don't have time to find them at the moment, and a couple video clips of Unimatic's (Robert's) vintage LK running with a Roto-Flex instead of the pregnant Roto-Swirl.
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Post# 25540-1/4/2003-16:12 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Color Matching
MESSAGE: If memory serves; I think Coppertone was "muti hued" for depth. The outer edges of the panals were deeper hued than that middle and it faded into each other. The other was a solid almost milk chocolate brown.
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Post# 25541-1/4/2003-16:16 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Car Manufacturers, Appliance Manufacturers and Unique Washing Action
MESSAGE: Frigidaire, with its pulsating washing action, was made by General Motors. Philco, with its blades of water "live water" washing action (which sounds very similar to the Whirlpool/Kenmore Calypso action), was made by Ford. It may only have been the bragging of the ad men, but according to today's (Jan. 4. 2002) POD, Kelvinator had a "3-way agitator" that was somehow different than other machines. Kelvinator was made by American Motors. Is there something about being made by a company that was primarily in the business of manufacturering cars that allowed the designers of these machines to be more creative so they could "stand out in the crowd" so to speak?
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Post# 25542-1/4/2003-16:29 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Kelvinator Dryer
MESSAGE: Looks cool! I have never seen Kelvi have the timer in the middle before. (Then again, I don't know much about Kelvi either.)
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Post# 25543-1/4/2003-17:25 ||| jetcirclefill (Pensacola, Fl)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Florida Pan-handle
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Post# 25544-1/4/2003-18:11 ||| boschboy (Portland, OR)
SUBJECT: RE: Penta-Vane, Penta-Swirl...?
MESSAGE: Actually, the Penta-Vane and Penta-Swirl are nearly the same agitator. They both have the exact same base: 5 fins with "scoops" between them. The only differences are the vanes going up to the top of the agitator. The Penta-Swirl has curved ridges, and the Penta-Vane has straight vanes. On the versions without the extended top caps (maybe those were in the larger capacity machines?), the name of the agitator appeared on the top cap.
The Speed Queen's straight-vane agitator had much deeper vanes running up the post, and they actually moved the water. The Penta-Vane and Penta-Swirl agitators relied on the deep fins at the base for their washing action.
A good friend of mine had an early '80s Kenmore with the Penta-Vane agitator and a recirculating lint filter. That was a cool machine.
BoschBoy
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Post# 25545-1/4/2003-18:20 ||| boschboy (Portland, OR)
SUBJECT: RE: Penta-Vane, Penta-Swirl...?
MESSAGE: Here's a link to a Penta-Swirl that was on eBay. (I think Notafixer posted this earlier.) The Penta-Vane's vanes go straight up instead of twisting around the agitator post.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20714&item=2081166086&rd=1
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Post# 25546-1/4/2003-19:17 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore agitator question (Roto-Flex)
MESSAGE: You must scroll down to the bottom of the web page to view the Roto-Flex Mpeg....
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/minne/satsunmon.htm
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Post# 25547-1/4/2003-19:23 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Yo all, I'm in Pennsylvania!
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Post# 25548-1/4/2003-19:51 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS... (EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob,
New York here
Peter
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Post# 25549-1/4/2003-19:57 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Car Manufacturers, Appliance Manufacturers and Unique Washing Action (POD!)
MESSAGE: The POD is the Greatest
I wish I had one
Peter
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Post# 25550-1/5/2003-00:41 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Car Manufacturers, Appliance Manufacturers and Unique Washing Action (Kelvinator videos)
MESSAGE: JerseyMike,
There are some video clips of a vintage ABC-O-Matic in the museum section. It has the same washing action as the POD Kelvinator.
ABC-O-Matic Museum wing
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Post# 25551-1/5/2003-03:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore agitator question (Roto-Swirl)
MESSAGE: BTW, is there a difference between the Roto-Swirl and the Super Roto-Swirl?
Louis
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Post# 25552-1/5/2003-09:29 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore agitator question (Roto-Flex)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the link. I enjoyed seeing the "rotospank" in action. Although it looks a bit out of place in Robert's 57 Lady!
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Post# 25553-1/5/2003-09:34 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Sunday's POD
MESSAGE: Great pic. The GE washer looks like a 51 except the lid looks permanently attached instead of completely removing like Robert's machine.
Speaking of Robert, I really hope that during the new year he (or someone) will have time to add more videos to the museum. I'd love to see some videos of the 49 Maytag AMP, the 52 Whirlpool, the 48 Westy, the 51 GE and the 53 and 57 Kenmore's added there.
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Post# 25554-1/5/2003-11:45 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Car Manufacturers, Appliance Manufacturers and Unique Washing Action (Kelvinator videos)
MESSAGE: Cool! Thanks much. :-)
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Post# 25555-1/5/2003-14:18 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS... (EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS)
MESSAGE: And don't forget Jon, Greg and Paolo up in Boston!
-ph
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Post# 25556-1/5/2003-15:30 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: NUMBER OF HANDS RAISED - about...
MESSAGE: O.K. I get about 25 hands raised from the east coast, so far. When I look in the profiles, there are nearly 400 folks...this leads me to believe that the majority of folks live somewhere other than the east coast....
Bought a vintage Sunbeam waffle iron today... model W - 1....late 40's ...square...clean. $3.50.
Peace.
BOB
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Post# 25557-1/5/2003-15:54 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: GE with Mini Basket
MESSAGE: I came upon a (Harvest Gold, Greg) GE washer last November, and had some time to play with it this weekend. I had the back removed and started to fill it with water. It looks like there is a small leak on the bottom of the outer tub.
Other than that it runs pretty good. Both speeds work so the previous owner(s) didn't change speeds while the motor was running. The pump really pumps that water into the mini basket.
I would really like to restore this machine. Any ideas what I could try to stop the leak? There is no evidence of rust, so I suspected that the leak was elsewhere and the water was dripping off the bottom of the outer tub, but I couldn't see any other place the water was coming from.
I was thinking, if I cleaned and dried the area around the source of the drip, I could seal it with epoxy. Does that sound reasonable?
I'll wait for your replies.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 25558-1/5/2003-16:21 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: GE with Mini Basket
MESSAGE: My mom was forced to retire her 1962 Maytag because of a similar leak. The leak seemed to come from around the center post. She had it repaired twice. It held for a while. When it happened again, she decided to replace it with another Maytag. Hopefully, you'll have better luck. Please keep us posted. This is one of my favorite claissics.
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Post# 25559-1/5/2003-18:40 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: GE with Mini Basket
MESSAGE: Eww how lucky, a HARVEST GOLD GE washer. Does it have a suds-saver? And it came with the back and mini-basket. wow.
In my experience GEs can leak from the top if the top wasn't clipped down tight. If it is leaking from the bottom it could be that the rubber gasket "boot" seal clamps are loose and water is leaking under them. Or it could be the rubber boot has a hole and needs replacing.
This machine sounds like something special needing pictures for all of us who are not fortunate to have one, to see. PLEEEEEEZE!!
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Post# 25560-1/5/2003-18:45 ||| Sudsmaster (San Leandro, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE with Mini Basket (Try JB Weld)
MESSAGE: Depends on the epoxy. I would try JB Weld, it's pretty durable stuff.
Does your Filter-flo look like any of the ones in the virtual Museum?
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Post# 25561-1/5/2003-22:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: NUMBER OF HANDS RAISED - about... (all over the place)
MESSAGE: We're all over the place. Don't forget me and Todd Cox in New Orleans, Appnut and Dadoes in TX, and consider all the appliance nuts around the globe that don't know about the club and think they're alone.
I just found out recently that my friend likes to watch washing machines. Yesterday I set up a washer for him (not vintage) and we had a wash-in. His roomate also "came out of the closet" and admitted his appliance enthusiasm and a childhood GE Filter Flo. There's alot more than just 400 of us out there in this world.
Cool on the waffle iron. I want a 50s Sunbeam Toaster. The kind that lowers the bread and raises it back up when it's finished.
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Post# 25562-1/5/2003-23:01 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: NUMBER OF HANDS RAISED - about... (Sunbeam Toaster)
MESSAGE: My parents are going to be celebrate their 50th wedding anniversary in July. They're still using a Sunbeam toaster that they got as a wedding present. It had to be repaired about 20 years ago, but it still works as good as the day they got it. Their only complaint is that English muffins sometimes get stuck.
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Post# 25563-1/5/2003-23:02 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: To I70sn80sguy
MESSAGE: Steve,
In your profile, you list as owning a 76 Whirlpool Supreme W\Suds Saver. That wouldnt happen to be model LFA5805 would it????
Geoff
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Post# 25564-1/5/2003-23:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE with Mini Basket
MESSAGE: Yay! Another member of the Harvest Gold GE sub-club!! Now you'll have to find the matching dryer to complete the circle of Gold! What is the model number of your washer? We can find out it's exact age with that. Is it a large capacity or standard? Straight vane Activator or spiral?
If you know the leak is definitely coming from the tub itself, I would use JB Weld - it's a miracle in a tube. I see genuine GE repair books on ebay all the time for the older style GE washers, grab one when you can as they are very well illustrated and easy to understand.
GE washers are fun - I love the sounds they make and they seem to do a good job, but the water usage is almost criminal. Mine can be set for Soak/Pre-Wash and automatically go into the normal cycle and if set for a 2nd rinse, we can easily reach the 100 gallon mark for one load of wash! Have fun!!
Here's my set in all it's Golden Glory - -
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/General+Electric&.src=ph&.dnm=GE+Americana+Pair.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/General%2bElectric%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25565-1/5/2003-23:26 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: NUMBER OF HANDS RAISED - about... (all over the place)
MESSAGE: OMG. Jason's RECRUITING! YAY!
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Post# 25566-1/5/2003-23:34 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: GE with Mini Basket
MESSAGE: My gosh! That dryer us just like the one I saw at the local thrift store. That thing has to be 30" wide! Has one of the bigest openings I have ever seen. It was marked $75 and was in great cosmetic shape. Nice white finish. Is this a keeper?
-Alex
(Fort Lauderdale)
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Post# 25567-1/5/2003-23:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE with Mini Basket
MESSAGE: Hi Alex- this dryer is a biggie and it's a keeper for me unless I find one like it in gas. The only drawback to this dryer is the airflow. Since it's such a big drum and opening, the airflow isn't strong enough to draw all the moisture in the drum out of the dryer fast enough and consequently, the moisture tends to condense on the painted surfaces around the opening which attracts lint. After drying a load of linty towels, etc. there is a film of lint all around the opening. Other than that, it's a fine dryer and I love the styling - even in gold! Was the one you saw electric or gas? The early gas models like this had 27,000 btu burners.
Greg
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Post# 25568-1/6/2003-08:17 ||| rayjay (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Hi all. From Carteret, New Jersey.
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Post# 25569-1/6/2003-09:14 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: GE with Mini Basket
MESSAGE: Greg,
I am not sure if it was gas or not, but I am there a few times a week and can check for you next time I'm there. I've seen one other dryer that looked like this one, except it had spiral fins inside the drum, very unusual.
-Alex
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Post# 25570-1/6/2003-09:21 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: GE with Mini Basket
MESSAGE: I still say they are a thing of beauty.
Oh I have a harvest gold dryer to match the one that is in the museum. But I am currently washer poor :-( So sad.
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Post# 25571-1/6/2003-09:26 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: GE with Mini Basket
MESSAGE: Hey, so what if its as big as a Subaru and kids have been known to camp out in them. Actually, I think they are 31" wide and extra deep.
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Post# 25572-1/6/2003-09:46 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: camera
MESSAGE: Screw Santa and his "have you been a good little boy this year?" crap.
Yesterday I knocked off a convenience store and GUESS who has a NEW Digital CAMERA !
Now I just have to figure out how to make it work.
Eww, I'm as giddy as a widow at a Sailors convention. I might need help. hhhelllllppppp.
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Post# 25573-1/6/2003-10:09 ||| Ives1 (Indiana)
SUBJECT: George M. Clark & Co. Makers Chicago Jewel Gas Heater
MESSAGE: I have gotten a, what I think may be an old gas space heater. All it says on it is "George M. Clark & Co. Makers Chicago". It is approx. 31" tall, has four long tubes, in each tube is a red stone and above each stone is Eisenglass. It has a ornate cast iron top with the word JEWEL on it. The base is also very ornate cast iron with a long skinny door to either light the burner or to view the burner.Can't seem to find any imformation about it. Any help out there. Thanks Ives
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Post# 25574-1/6/2003-10:22 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: To I70sn80sguy
MESSAGE: I am not sure what the model number is. That washer is currently in storage at my parents house about an hour and half away. Along with about half my collection, they are awaiting completion of my house so they can all live together.
The washer is one of my favorites. This is despite the fact that the washer leaks and will need to be taken apart and rebuilt as well as needing like 5 other things repaired or replaced. but functionally it works very smooth and the timer and controls work great.( this is the model I found a table napkin in the drain, now how DID that get in there?)
On mine ,as well, the frame(beacuse it leaked from the bleach dispener hose) was in rough shape- very rusted and unstable. luckily I had another white Whirlpool matching washer base and was able to switch it out. Carefully pulling the innards out of the original base and installing them, and the rest of the parts including the top on the new frame which is like new. Still I would rather do this with a whirlpool belt drive than with a GE fixed outer tub.
Reading your profile (thank-you) I think you are looking at a model that has a recirculating lint filter. When I was a child and our Frigidaire pulsating washer broke and my parents got their new Whirlpool Supreme W/D set, the washer looked exactly like this washer but it had a recirculating lint filter like what I think you are referring to. The only difference here is that the lint filter is self cleaning and there is a diluting bleach dispenser on the LEFT side of the opening, under the lid. When my parents had their Whirlpool it had no bleach dispenser but a recirculating lint filter on the top of the opening, inside the lid on the RIGHT side that had like a scrub brush you pulled out and cleaned with a comb.
I had the matching dryer dryer once in coffee/coppertone. wish I had it back.
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Post# 25575-1/6/2003-11:08 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: To I70sn80sguy
MESSAGE: Would you like to have a Frigidaire(s) in your collection? I don't think I saw one in your list. Which Frigidaire did you have growing up? Did your mom not like it, being she replaced it with a Whirlpool?
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Post# 25576-1/6/2003-11:49 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: RE: To I70sn80sguy
MESSAGE: Steve,
Well, the reason I asked is cause my machine is model LFA5800. Mine is NON-suds saver. I have all the manuals and documentation that came with it, including the original warranty that my aunt left in the "laundry information center" in the back of the washer. In my manual, they referr to 2 models, LFA5800 (mine) and LFA5805 (suds-saver model)So I was figuring, if ours are the same year, they are identical except for the suds-saver. Of course I could be wrong. Mine has the standard bleach dispenser on the left and on the right I have a "bed of nails" clean-it-yourself lint filter. Actually, maybe someone could help me with this as I have been confused. My serial number says it's a 74, yet all of the original documentation, has dating of late 76. I'm not quite sure they would make something in 74 and print the documentation in 76, that makes no sense to me. So I am assuming, mine is a 76. There, thats my usual long explanation LOL :)
Geoff
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Post# 25577-1/6/2003-16:34 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: To I70sn80sguy
MESSAGE: As I recall, the LDA series was 1976. LFA would be 1977, or maybe 1978 if model changes didn't occur every year.
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Post# 25578-1/6/2003-19:20 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: RE: To I70sn80sguy
MESSAGE: I don't remember what happened with them. I asked my mother and she couldn't remember. She thought that they were matching. "Well they were just machines to me" she said. I was like 6 or 7 when they replaced them. I remember more about the 50s or early 60s electric white Maytag dryer than I do the Frigidaire washer though it had to have been from before 1967. The dryer was one of those with the round edges and a flat panel. When they took them out I got to keep the dryer knob and I played with it and tried to make it stick on my toy box and pretend it was a washing machine. Frankly I remember being scared of the washer because I could barely prop myself up to see inside and the "pulsator" in action, looked like it was going to punch me.
Then we got the Whirlpools and it was so neat because it had this extra long hose that went into the 2nd laundry tub and you could plug the drain and it would fill with water and the machine would quietly suck it back up. Now personally today the idea of washing my clothes in used water just doesn't cut it, but it was fun and interesting kind of like the glass lids so sought after by a number of people here.
The other thing is in my years of living mostly in south east Wisconsin area I have rarely ever seen Frigidaires. I started refurbishing in 82 and I had mainly GEs and Whirlpool and Kenmore. Maybe it was the proximity to Sears in Chicago or the fact that Hotpoint had a washing machine manufacturing facility in Milwaukee that goes way back.(They built bombs there during the war of the 1940s). Over the years in terms of Frigidaire I have had in my posession:washers- 1 late 60s, dryers-3, 1 coffee color, 2 white, dishwashers-1 early 70s, refrigerators-enough, new and old. When I did the refurbishing thing in 93 even the cheap ones were few. And I am not just talking about stuff from dealers. I have been in 2nd hand stores, stuff on the street, and even what I have seen in use in numerous homes that I have viewed ( I am in Real Estate) over the years. I don't know where others in the room here have found theirs. Maybe they are a regional thing? Maybe there is a secret Frigidaire 1-18 society? I have not seen alot of the brands listed in the museum. Even if I wanted a Frigidaire washer I wouldn't know where to easily get them.
I can understand peoples fascination with them. They are unique. I keep hoping I'll find one so I can get it for someone here who could use it. And yes I know if it was made after 1980 not to bother. I have found some Frigidaire washer advertisements in old magazines that I want to share as soon as I figure out how to make my camera work. One was in poppy red. As far as me, well I have really thought about the boundrys of my collection. I would say I am half way there. but they take room. so you really have to know what it is that does it for you. On refrigerators I know there are very few left that I want.
I guess my "frills and fashion" collection picks up where "fundamentals" collections left, and ends where the truly "throw-a-way" stuff took over.
A Bendix, a Frigidaire 1-18, and a combo washer/dryer. I hope to see some of these machines in action someday. For those that collect and refurbish them, you have my utmost respect.
There I am rambling again.
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Post# 25579-1/6/2003-19:24 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: GE with Mini Basket
MESSAGE: In my book it is indeed a keeper!! The styling of those dryers was great, but they were wide - if I remember correctly somewhere around 32 inches! I am even more sorry now that I didn't grab the one I saw at the estate sale last summer. But it was way overpriced at $130.00 and it needed a new heating element. It was a later model though - probably '79 - '81, and the control panel did not have a light......
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Post# 25580-1/6/2003-19:39 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: To I70sn80sguy
MESSAGE: Not rambling at all - that was very interesting. I have only recently begun collecting, and it is very difficult here in Connecticut to find any of the most desired machines. Since a member of the family is in real estate, I too thought that would be a good source, but after 4 years, I still have not seen anything really desirable. Certainly no Frigidaires of any vintage, and not a Speed Queen, Norge Time Line or Philco Bendix to be found. Mostly what I see in houses for sale and estate sales are early 80's Maytags and Kenmores. Not even a nice GE filter flo........
Although some people are just lucky. My best friend's sister just relocated from Tampa back to Bridgeport CT. She bought an older house in an old but established neighborhood of small tidy houses. What does she find in the basement?? A beautiful mint condition GE Dispensall in..... you guessed it - Harvest Gold!! The dryer, however was your basic nondescript late model GE. Her comment was that she loved this machine - even more than her late model Kenmore she left behind in Tampa. Not the way we do of course, but because she thinks it does a great job... Well, I guess it does... Anyway, I think that was rambling.
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Post# 25581-1/6/2003-20:09 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: 1952? Kenmore Manual
MESSAGE: Maybe this could be a manual of the month!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2087026242&category=20714
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Post# 25582-1/6/2003-20:12 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Control Tower Manual Request
MESSAGE: Can I request a Unimatic Control Tower washer Manual (Manual of the month) for May? (May 31 is my birthday.)
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Post# 25583-1/6/2003-20:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Long distance wash-in
MESSAGE: Well, I just got off the phone with Bob (Appnut) and we had a cool phone wash-in. We started talking washers and I decided to start up the Lil' Lady. The wash-in went well, he was able to hear the machine except for the final spin was really out of balance. I also loaded the laundry in the Frigemore for a real good spin and I let him hear that running too.
It was fun talking about old washers and appliances and being able to run one at the same time.
Hmm.. Speaking of wash-in (hint: Todd Cox) .... ;-)
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Post# 25584-1/6/2003-20:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE with Mini Basket
MESSAGE: I was just curious, I probably wouldn't pay shipping on a dryer unless it was NIB! (new in box)
Spiral fins in the drum - do you mean they were angled in the drum rather than straight front to back? If angled, it may have been a Westinghouse. Some people I babysat for had one paired with a Hotpoint washer. The dryer was not vented to the outside and after a while of drying, the entire basement would drip with water - sort of a huge Filtrator really. Anyway, Westinghouse had large door and opening too, but not as large as the GE. The GE measures 31 inches wide by 27" deep. (plus the vent makes for 31" from wall) It certainly does have a "commanding presence" in size and then there's the color.....
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Post# 25585-1/6/2003-20:31 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: To I70sn80sguy
MESSAGE: Make sure to tell your friend that you want that washer if she ever gets rid of it or sells the house - then you'll be the lucky one! You found that cool Westinghouse washer a while back, is that still around? It think that was a very lucky find, your determination at sales paid off well. Most of my machines are not from estate sales, in over 3 years only the new GE's, the '60 WP dryer and the '56 Hotpoint washer. Not bad, but they don't pop up every week. I haven't found any vintage laundry aids in a long, long time.
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Post# 25586-1/6/2003-21:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: NUMBER OF HANDS RAISED - about... (all over the place)
MESSAGE: And don't forget JonJonBear in Austin. And although he's not around anymore (like Turbo), there's also washrfreak in Dallas.
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Post# 25587-1/6/2003-21:35 ||| TCOX6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Jason, its time ...
MESSAGE: Jason, how about a junior wash-in, since its just the two of us in Louisiana? Lets give that new Avocado 1-18 set a proper welcome. I have some free time Saturday. What do you think?
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Post# 25588-1/6/2003-21:52 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Jason, its time ...
MESSAGE: Hmm, I may have to join via telephone!!!!
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Post# 25589-1/6/2003-22:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Jason, its time ...
MESSAGE: WOOHOO!
Give me a call on my cell (I'll email it to you) and we'll wash Saturday!
COOL!
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Post# 25590-1/6/2003-22:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Jason, its time ...
MESSAGE: Cool
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Post# 25591-1/7/2003-06:32 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: To I70sn80sguy
MESSAGE: Greg - I already made that clear to her. So, we will see what happens. That Westinghouse washer is still here - shamefully, I have not had any time to do anything with it yet, nor have I had time to deal with that Frigidaire 1-18 I got from the appliance dealer. I was surprised to find that that particular Frigidaire model was the top rated machine in the Consumer Reports 1973 washer issue. I was also surprised to have found that during the 70's, Consumer Reports considered the Frigidaire 1-18's one of the more repair prone brands - "below average" reliability was their term, I believe.
And to add to the list of shame, the 1977 GE filter flo and 1961 GE Dryer are stored at a local appliance dealer's "special storeroom". May have a problem getting those though. The guy who allowed me to store them has been out of commission for a long time and no one is allowed to touch the storeroom but him. Apparently he too has quite a collection of stoves and ranges (possibly some washers and dryers) so he was the only one with keys and access to the storeroom. Well, he is the owner's son..
Long answer to a short question......
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Post# 25592-1/7/2003-07:05 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Jason, its time ...
MESSAGE: Bob, it's the next best thing to being there. haha Wish you were closer so you could be here with us.
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Post# 25593-1/7/2003-08:31 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: Maytag Porta-Dryer 120V apartment-size dryer
MESSAGE: Anyone interested in a cute little Maytag Porta-Dryer?
This is a 120V apartment-size dryer, probably from the early '70s. I installed a new cord and blower belt right after I got it 5 years ago. Ran good last time I used it. Door and lint filter are interchangeable with my full-size Halo-of-Heat dryer. Rolls out of way on casters when not in use. Timer knob is not original. Flexible aluminum duct included.
Asking $40, located near Allentown, PA
Photo with door open:
http://www.lvboard.com/images/0103/maytag2.jpg
LINK: http://www.lvboard.com/images/0103/maytag1.jpg
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Post# 25594-1/8/2003-08:34 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: HEY, WHERE IS EVERYBODY?????
MESSAGE: It cruel and unusual punishment to make me work with being able to "talk" to ya'll.
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Post# 25595-1/8/2003-08:59 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: Canadian 54 GE
MESSAGE: I would love to see a pic of the inside of this beauty.
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Post# 25596-1/8/2003-17:24 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: HEY, WHERE IS EVERYBODY????? (Hmmmmmmmmmm...)
MESSAGE: I have no idea, but something suspicious is going on with the website and its members... Open the vault for the Vintage Washers! Someone is going to strike!
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Post# 25597-1/8/2003-17:26 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Canadian 54 GE
MESSAGE: Me too.
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Post# 25598-1/8/2003-19:06 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: I heard that someone...
MESSAGE: is looking for an electronic Kenmore! Good luck!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2087511940&category=20714
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Post# 25599-1/8/2003-19:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I heard that someone...
MESSAGE: Cool Jamie! He says direct drive in the auction, but that looks like a 29" machine to me, which would make it belt drive. What is everyone else's opinion? Must be a duplex or multi dwelling, as I see another set in the background.
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Post# 25600-1/8/2003-19:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: HEY, WHERE IS EVERYBODY?????
MESSAGE: I'm still here in all my glory!!!
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Post# 25601-1/8/2003-19:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: I heard that someone... (Hey HQOTS!!!)
MESSAGE: Where's that boy Jason when we need him. Jason could give us the definitive answer on this. I had a hard time seeing the control panel details, thus I couldn't differentiatie between whether it was a DD or BD machine.
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Post# 25602-1/8/2003-21:15 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: here
MESSAGE: Here. Have been working on redoing my 74 GE washer with sudssaver. using parts from 2 other machines to make 1 good. Dirty work. But the end result is what is important.
Hi to everyone.
Were just in a quiet phase. yes, were in the soak cycle. We've filled, agitated for 3 minutes and are soaking now. No panic.
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Post# 25603-1/8/2003-21:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: here
MESSAGE: Do GE suds savers work like Sears ones where you have a special cycle to return the suds water, or like a Frigidaire, where you set a knob then turn the timer to the regular cycle? I've never seen a GE with suds saver before.
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Post# 25604-1/8/2003-23:25 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: I heard that someone... (It's a Direct)
MESSAGE: It has the direct drive panel. Still a cool machine.
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Post# 25605-1/8/2003-23:30 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: I heard that someone...
MESSAGE: I also noticed the second set of machines and you're probably right about it being a duplex or a multi dwelling, but it's kind of fun to speculate that it might be another collector.
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Post# 25606-1/9/2003-08:39 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: KENMORE POD
MESSAGE: Great POD. Love the pink 57 Kenmore. This model looks like one step dowm from Robert's restored 57 Lady.
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Post# 25607-1/9/2003-09:27 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: I heard that someone...
MESSAGE: Even tho it looks wide i think the picture is deceiving because of maybe a wide lens shot or something. I think the owners right and it is a direct drive plus I think that console only apprears on dd machines seem to remember the belt ones seems a little more dated which is cool =)
Its probably still in a duplex, theres a set in the backround (console looks kenmoreish, but the lid looks belt geish, probably just something ontop of the lid) and that dryer maybe a side kenmore or side ge? Also the black kenmore is hooed up (look at the sink and the water heater) and theres another dryer there too =)
Isn't it fun to look at pictures =)
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Post# 25608-1/9/2003-10:08 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: I heard that someone... (Hey HQOTS!!!)
MESSAGE: That is a later model DD machine. This one is either a 3 speed or a two speed which drops agitation speed to low in the normal cycle.
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Post# 25609-1/9/2003-10:09 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: kenmore 800 for sale
MESSAGE: 800 harvest gold for someone. Email me if interested.
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Post# 25610-1/9/2003-12:20 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: OMG A GREAT song!
MESSAGE: There's a new country song called 19 Something by Mark Wills. For those of us who were kids in the 70s, you gotta hear it. It's a song about growing up in the 70s and 80s. It's bring back memories for sure.
Imperial Bob has heard this song. It's on Kazaa so it's Wirth a listen.
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Post# 25611-1/9/2003-12:25 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: kenmore 800 for sale (OMG!)
MESSAGE: Getting the machine would be no problem but the shipping would kill me
:'-(
The land of rust sux.
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Post# 25612-1/9/2003-14:41 ||| Lbjay (Lexington, MA)
SUBJECT: RE: range repair advice (Frigidaire Flair advice)
MESSAGE: I was wondering what you meant by "the speed heat switch is now converted to an ordinary 120 volt infinite switch".
I have a '62 Custom Imperial with a burned out Speed heat burner. I know the parts aren't available anymore, but I'd like to get an appliance repairman in here and I want to know what to tell him to do.
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Post# 25613-1/9/2003-14:55 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: 1948 GE ?
MESSAGE: I was reading the Consumers Report article on the 48 GE washer. It mentions that the machine had a detergent dispenser setup. It says that soap and water mixed in the outer tub and was pumped into clothes. Can anyone help explain how it worked? Thanks
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Post# 25614-1/9/2003-15:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1948 GE ?
MESSAGE: At least I think this is right... Soap was added to the outer tub thru a chute. Water filling the inner tub would overflow into the outer tub, dissolving the soap. When the timer clicked over to activate agitation, the pump kicked in also and circulated waterand soap from the outer tub into the inner tub. A modified version of this overflow theory is how the Filter-Flo worked in later models.
-ph
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Post# 25615-1/10/2003-00:28 ||| jonob (New Zealand)
SUBJECT: RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working (Bendix machines)
MESSAGE: Hi there Ross
I posted an advert of sorts on the web site last month hoping to get some information, photo's or manuals etc on Bendix Auto washers. I live in New Zealand and as a child we had one which was bolted to the floor and then another one which didn't need to be bolted down. We also had a Norge and a Frigidaire Jetamatic which had a blue cone which went up an down.
I would love to get any information you may have on the Bendix machines, pic's or a point in the right direction.
Many thanks
Jon
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Post# 25616-1/10/2003-01:42 ||| earthling177 (Boston, MA)
SUBJECT: RE: EAST COAST RAISING OF HANDS...
MESSAGE: Howdy!
This is Paulo, from the Boston Metro area (MA)... (I'm catching up, I've been kinda distracted lately). Hope everyone had a wonderful holiday season!
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Post# 25617-1/10/2003-05:52 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Lost memory :-((
MESSAGE: I can remember this was the second Kenmore my father had purchased. It was the BOL Kenmore with 3 cycles, 3 water level with three water temperature all cold rinses back in the late 70's. This no-frill washer only lasted for about 3 or 4 years, but I've save the agitator for later date in my life!
As a matter of fact, I've collected several agitator's during my childhood:
Speed Queen
Whirlpool Regular and Double Duty Surgilator
GE's Straight Vane
Kenmore Super-Roto-Swirl in black with the star's between the name and a gold one without the star
A GE Spiral and Straight Vane Mini-Basket and my current Penta-Vane
Now out of the whole collection, I've only kept was the Penta-Vane and Whirlpools regular surgilator. I don't know what I was thinking when I got rid of the others and now I wished that I didn't! Especially the black Super-Roto-Swirl!
How's that for lost memory?
This photo was on Ebay a few weeks ago which I've saved onto my hard drive!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/vwp?.dir=/Vintage+appliances+found+in+NY/My+new+collection/Kenmore+Agitator&.dnm=BOL+Kenmore+with+Penta-Vane.jpg&.src=ph
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Post# 25618-1/10/2003-06:09 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: POD (Kenmore 800)
MESSAGE: In today's POD, I would like to know what type of agitator was inside this model.
Was it a Vari-Flex or a Roto-Swirl agitator?
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Post# 25619-1/10/2003-06:33 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800)
MESSAGE: I turned on the computer and the first thing I saw was this lovely POD. What a way to wake up!
This is the often talked about Kenmore 800. My childhood washer.
It had the gold RotoSwirl agitator. It has almost all the features of the Lady Kenmore but was manually controlled instead of having to push buttons.
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Post# 25620-1/10/2003-07:19 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working (Bendix machines)
MESSAGE: hi jon....sure wish i could give you some repair information but i do not know anything about repairing machines.....i was lucky to find mechanic about one hour away....that means i have to load washer onto my truck and drive it into repair shop...ross
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Post# 25621-1/10/2003-07:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working (Bendix machines)
MESSAGE: Hi Jon -
There were several models of the Bendix bolt down made between 1937 and 1948 and even more of the non-bolt down type after that before Bendix appliances was aquired by Philco in 1957. Here is a picture of the bolt-down model I have, a "Standard" or model "S" There are a couple of other members that have the model above this one, essentially the same machine but with a cabinet. Can you describe the later model you remember? Perhaps we can pinpoint it better and find a picture or ad for you.
Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Bendix&.src=ph&.dnm=1947+Bendix+Standard.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Bendix%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25622-1/10/2003-07:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working (Bendix machines)
MESSAGE: Jon- Here is a picture of the 1947 Deluxe model washer.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/vwp?.dir=/Philco-Bendix&.src=ph&.dnm=1947+Bendix+Deluxe+Model.JPG&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/unimatic1140/lst%3f%26.dir=/Philco-Bendix%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25623-1/10/2003-07:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working (What did you think?)
MESSAGE: Hi Ross - what did you think of the washing performance of your newly restored Bendix? I don't have mine installed any longer for space considerations, but it is a fun machine.
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Post# 25624-1/10/2003-07:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1948 GE ?
MESSAGE: I seem to remember a cut-away diagram of this washer that was posted a while ago. The washer filled in the outer cabinet and the water was pumped into the wash-tub through the recirculation hose. Here is a picture of John Lefever's 47 GE.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/vwp?.dir=/4-Collection+-John%27s+West+Virginia+House&.src=ph&.dnm=Inside+the+%2747+GE.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/tomturbomatic/lst%3f%26.dir=/4-Collection%2b-John%2527s%2bWest%2bVirginia%2bHouse%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25625-1/10/2003-08:35 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working (Bendix machines)
MESSAGE: Jon,
Have you looked in the vintage article section of the club? CU tested and rated a couple of the Bendix units and show some pix.
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Post# 25626-1/10/2003-09:07 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: Hey! That is My Washer!
MESSAGE: This is our old kenmore washer! We had it in almond though. It is the fullsize kenmore, not my portable. We only had the washer and a Lady Kenmore Soft Heat Dryer.I miss that machine, taen away from my grasp yesterday.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20714&item=2087693311&rd=1
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Post# 25627-1/10/2003-09:52 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800)
MESSAGE: Was there a difference between a Roto Swirl and a Super Roto Swirl?
Louis
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Post# 25628-1/10/2003-10:27 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800)
MESSAGE: Nothing really. The Roto Swirl is the early one that we refer to as "pregnant" because of it's girth and tumescence. The Super Roto Swirl is the later, trimmed down one.
-ph
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Post# 25629-1/10/2003-13:50 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: Kenmore "800"
MESSAGE: Jason, your "800" came up again. Maybe your getting closer to your dream machine.
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Post# 25630-1/10/2003-14:27 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Land of Rust Wash-in 2 coming soon
MESSAGE: That's right. The 2nd tcox/jasonl Land of Rust washin will happen tomorrow. Pics and videos to follow.
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Post# 25631-1/10/2003-14:28 ||| i70sn80sguy (Chicago area)
SUBJECT: Too many machines.
MESSAGE: I took a count yesterday and I have accumulated 65 machines in less than 2 months. And now I am planning a move across country and it just isn't going to be feasible to take all machines. I am planning to sell more than half. If you are looking for machines, please check my profile for what is being sold. I also have some parts such as motors and timers.
Now that I have my camera I have taken pictures I just to get the software loaded and will be able to send pictures if someone needs them.
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Post# 25632-1/10/2003-14:55 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800)
MESSAGE: I thought there was a difference between the two?
Wasn't the Roto-Swirl similar to GE Spiral Activator and the *Super-Roto-Swirl had a little back tag on the end like this?
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/vwp?.dir=/Vintage+appliances+found+in+NY/My+new+collection/Kenmore+Agitator&.dnm=Super-Roto-Swirl---1.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/vwp%3f.dir=/Vintage%2bappliances%2bfound%2bin%2bNY/My%2bnew%2bcollection/Kenmore%2bAgitator%26.dnm=Super-Roto-Swirl.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 25633-1/10/2003-15:13 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800)
MESSAGE: No, they are basically the same. I think if your go to Robert's pics, look up his 57 LK you will see the tumescent Roto-Swirl. You can also see it in my 55 Kenmore pics. See the pic in the link below and the next pic in the album.
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/1953+Kenmore+washer&.src=ph&.dnm=KMinside.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/1953%2bKenmore%2bwasher%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25634-1/10/2003-15:28 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800)
MESSAGE: Oh I see!
Same agitator but different names because the newer model is slimmer!
Now I get it!
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Post# 25635-1/10/2003-15:29 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800)
MESSAGE: One is pregnant and the other gave birth!
:-))
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Post# 25636-1/10/2003-16:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800)
MESSAGE: Shhh!!! Emergency liposuction, sweety! Tit lift, bum lift, loose a rib...
Kenmore is Absolutely Fabulous!
-ph
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Post# 25637-1/10/2003-17:47 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800)
MESSAGE: Thank you Peter and Larry for clearing this up. I was puzzled about the difference and it's not easy finding it out from the other side of the ocean.
You are Abfab!
Louis
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Post# 25638-1/10/2003-19:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Lost memory :-((
MESSAGE: Larry, thanks for the picture. Some very good friends of mine had a pair cosmetically like this, from I'd say about 1975 or so when they bought their first house. 14 pound tub. 4 cycles (prewash); 5 temp combos and 3 water levels. It had an agitator-mounted fs dispenser, gold agitator with 3 straight vanes I believe. Loved that machine. One of the last with the "old" perm-press cool-down. The washer & dryer were still going strong when they got rid of it in 1987 or thereabouts and it had lasted through 3 newborns and a husband that played racquetball 3-4 times a week. So, I'm puzzled as to why your dad's only lasted 3-4 years. Bob
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Post# 25639-1/10/2003-19:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hey! That is My Washer!
MESSAGE: Alas, one of the last mechanical timer Kenmores with a lighted timer dial
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Post# 25640-1/10/2003-19:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800)
MESSAGE: My "sweet 16" washer LOL.
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Post# 25641-1/10/2003-20:47 ||| upfyrman (Gig Harbor, WA)
SUBJECT: Coil Oven Elements
MESSAGE: Can the old coil oven elements (in this case broiler) be replaced with conventional ones?
Thanks
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Post# 25642-1/10/2003-22:46 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800) (that electric lady kenmore you have)
MESSAGE: John has the matching washer for this one, i was with him when we rescued it =) Very cool machine, i was so excited when we found it!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/vwp?.dir=/Vintage+appliances+found+in+NY&.dnm=Lady+Kenmore+Electric+Dryer.jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/lr9711/vwp%3f.dir=/Vintage%2bappliances%2bfound%2bin%2bNY%26.dnm=POD%2bKenmore.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 25643-1/11/2003-06:53 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800) (that electric lady kenmore you have)
MESSAGE: That's excellent news! My Mom still has that Lady Kenmore dryer, in use, in avacado - it's the dryer that replaced her '55 Kenmore, and stayed!
In all my years, I have only ever seen the matching washer to that machine once. It'd be really great to have a matching pair of those...truely, top of the line (in their day).
Neato. Not much new here in Arlington. No news, is good news. All my babies are running fine and they all wish you all happy times.
BOB
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Post# 25644-1/11/2003-07:12 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working (Bendix machines)
MESSAGE: Hi Jonob
I live not far from Melbourne, Australia. I am interested in the Frigidaire you had. My family also had a Jet Action Frigidaire. Were the NZ ones actually assembled in NZ? The Aussie ones were assembled in Dandenong, an outer suburb of Melbourne. Aus manufacture ceased in the late sixties or early seventies, but I have heard that the Frigidaire name lived on in NZ. (?) Just last week there was a "Frigidaire Gentle Annie" washer advertised in the Trading Post, in Aus we had the F&P Gentle Annie but no Frigidaire version, so it must have been a private import from NZ. The Gentle Annie was the first F&P washer sold here. After Aus manufacture of Frigidaire appliances ceased, the Frigidaire name disappeared for several years, it was used on Korean-import fridges for a while in the 80's and again on Gorenje-sourced front loaders from Slovenia in the mid-90's. It has disappeared again here.
Also ,what can you tell us about vintage NZ washers? What uniquely NZ brands were there, and when were they made?
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 25645-1/11/2003-07:42 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: '47 BENDIX DELUXE - RUNNING!
MESSAGE: My '47 runs fine. I'd say Bendix is about 50 washloads or so into it's current life...and working marvelously..
plans are underway to have an extractor of sorts installed right away so that I can lighten up on my vintage dryers and not put loads from either bendix (rubber tub machine or bolt down delux '47) into the dryer directly....indeed, they are a bit to heavily laden with moisture in most cases when using either Bendix...but other than that...they've got the look!
The 'extractor' I plan to use will be a modified japanese GE portable from the late '70's or early mid 80's...you remember the one with the pulsator disc in the bottom and the plastic lid? That had a heck of a spin on it, and not a very big footprint.. I plan to convert one to be pedal operated (start and stop), and it may even be semi-permanently installed (on it's own slab?) and even use a gravity drain...for simplicity...and , of course, the whole thing will have to be painted pink to match the rest of the laundry studio...
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Post# 25646-1/11/2003-07:50 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Lost memory :-((
MESSAGE: Bob,very easy!
The apartment building that we are living in had very poor wiring service during that era and Con Edison always cut back on the power during the summer months in this neighborhood (Clinton Hills section. So...., the motor got worn out or the starting capacitor got too weak and the washer would not go in to spin or takes a full 4 minuets to reach top speed and sometimes alternating back and forth (motor clicking) trying to achieve enough power to complete the spin cycle!
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Post# 25647-1/11/2003-08:43 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: '47 BENDIX DELUXE - RUNNING!
MESSAGE: It could be in any color but it must be pink!
That is excellent news Bob!
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Post# 25648-1/11/2003-08:54 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800) (that electric lady kenmore you have)
MESSAGE: I wish the dryer was in gas but that's OK.
The glass panel is cracked in one place and I will take photo's of it, but by chance, I hope to be able to replace it if Sears still carries the part(s).
Also on the back of the machine, it has a rod that you could hang clothes on! Now that is a nice feature!
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Post# 25649-1/11/2003-10:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800) (that electric lady kenmore you have)
MESSAGE: Bob, what washer(s) has she used with it over the years?
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Post# 25650-1/11/2003-11:47 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800) (that electric lady kenmore )
MESSAGE: Mom had some kind of gold agitator kenmore when the Lady Kenmore dryer first appeared, and in 72 Mom bought a Maytag A806 Which is still around today, although she's been using a compact Lady Kenmore belt drive portable for about the past 10 years because the Maytag is really just too big a machine for her needs. Mom is 75 now...
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/MOM/INDEX.htm
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Post# 25651-1/11/2003-12:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Land of rust wash-in 2 in progress
MESSAGE: Well, I'm at Todd Cox's house and we're enjoying the AVOCADO 1-18s. FUN!!!!!
Video is being shot and we'll have a music video soon.
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Post# 25652-1/11/2003-12:42 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Kenmore 800) (that electric lady kenmore )
MESSAGE: Thanks for the pictures Bob! Your mom looks very well and happy. What a beautiful range too ! :)
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Post# 25653-1/11/2003-14:13 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Land of rust wash-in 2 in progress (What washer is this you're talking about? )
MESSAGE: Is it a Whirlpool?
Will it be in the clasic appliance museum?
Chris
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Post# 25654-1/11/2003-14:46 ||| jonob (New Zealand)
SUBJECT: RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working (Bendix machines)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg, Thanks for yours and everyones replies.
The later machince was rather large. It had a pull down door below the porthole. Behind this door were the taps and the lint filter. On top of the machine at the back were the controls. On knob was for selecting the wash cycle, the other was for the load size. Under these knobs was a sliding lever which was used to select either hot or warm water temp. I think the machine was called a Bendix Gyramatic.
cheers
Jon
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Post# 25655-1/11/2003-15:29 ||| jonob (New Zealand)
SUBJECT: RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working (Bendix machines)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris
As far as I am aware the Jetamatic's (as they were referred to here) were imported from Aus. We only ever had the 1 model here.There was also a matching dryer which took 2 of the Jetamatic's wash loads which we had as well. Yes the Frigidaire name did and still lives on here. F&P brought the brand right and have used it on many machines normally to distinguish between different versions of the same model. I still have a GM Frigidaire Caprice wall oven which has a rostisorie and Temp probe.It is alomost 30 years old and was in the house when I brought it. You can not get this sort of sized oven anywhere any more.
Before F&P made their first auto washer (which I think was around 1969) most were imported.
THe first auto washer from F&P was basic, however it found itself into almost every NZ home!!It came out under 3 brands - Savaday, Whiteway, Washrite, same machine,different coloured control panel and on some, buttons instead of knobs.
Some of these machines are still going today and parts are still available..if not in limited supply. All these machines had a top spin speed of 1000rpm which is standard for NZ manufactured machines.
Thor (a semi auto with suds return, Norge = 3 different models with matching dryers, Bendix = 2 models ( one bolted down which was a little compact looking unit and the larger one which did not require permanent fixing to the floor.
F&P imported and repaired the Norges and the Bendix. Thor was serviced by independant repairers.
Over the years we have moved rather quickly to where we our now with the Smartdrive and Intuitive range, the later which comes out under the F&P Quantum brand. This now includes ovens, fridges, Dishwashers - both standard and Dishdrawers. Dishdrawers and excellent and would not be without mine!
Rumour has it that F&P are working on a top loader that will wash like a front loader. Similair to the Launderall type of machine. About 90% of the NZ market have toploaders ( mostly F&P) although some of the imported frontloaders are now making their way into peoples homes so hence the possibility of a mix of the two. Personally I prefer the Asko I have. Great machine!!
F&P still manufacture Laundry appliances,fridges,freezers, and Healthcare ( yes it is true we invented and manufactured the Maternity Incubator) in Mt Wellington, Auckland. Dishwashers are manufactured in Dunedin which is in the south Island.
Hope this info helps
Maybe we should start up a museum down this way as well??
chers
Jon
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Post# 25656-1/11/2003-21:21 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Land of rust wash-in 2 in progress (What washer is this you're talking about? )
MESSAGE: Sorry, CAM, no Whirlpool here. Its a Frigidaire 1-18 set. The video won't be in the museum; it will have a link to click on and download it. Jason will post that later.
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Post# 25657-1/11/2003-23:51 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Coming soon... LotR pt. 2
MESSAGE: Land Of The Rust: The Two 1-18's
Join Roto Baggins on his journey through the land of rust. Driven by the power of the three-ring he searches the Land of Rust for the elusive Kenmore 800.
See Todd the Wizard and his magical 1-18's.
Watch as the mysterious jetcone wash Roto's clothes clean.
Hear the awesome vibrations from the 1-18.
Will Roto become spellbound by Todd and his Frigidiares and forget about his quest for the Kenmore 800?
You'll just have to wait till next year when part 3 comes out.
Music video is in production. Of course, the music is a 70s song.
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Post# 25658-1/12/2003-08:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Taken from the set of the up coming video Land Of The Rust 2: The Two 1-18s, here's some production shots of the beautiful 1971? 1-18 and JasonL as Roto Baggins and tcox619 as Todd the Wizard.
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst?&.dir=/pictures/Land+Of+The+Rust+2&.src=bc&.view=t&.begin=1&.order=&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst%3f%26.dir=/pictures/Land%2bOf%2bThe%2bRust%2b2%26.src=bc%26.view=t
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Post# 25659-1/12/2003-09:34 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Thanks for sharing. I'm "green" with envy. ;-) I had forgotten how "fat" those jetcones were.
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Post# 25660-1/12/2003-09:44 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Jason, good photos, and thanks for making me the hunky bear instead of the chunky bear. ha ha Had a great time with our mini-wash and looking forward to next time when we're running both machines at the same time. Remember, appliance graveyard hunt coming soon.
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Post# 25661-1/12/2003-10:33 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Here it is!
MESSAGE: Land of The Rust 2: The Two 1-18s
video for your viewing pleasure.
LINK: http://members.cox.net/rotoswirl/videos/lotr2.wmv
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Post# 25662-1/12/2003-11:02 ||| keymatic (Surrey.U.K)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is!
MESSAGE: Hi Jason...
I must say that is a great video, and even better background music !!
I seem to remember it was by "Hot Butter" and was out over here about mid July 1972, i use to make my mum put it on over, & over again.
A pleasure to watch...thanx
Keith
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Post# 25663-1/12/2003-11:05 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is!
MESSAGE: Thanks! Hey. Your town (Surrey) is mentioned in the new Harry Potter movie. "... they flew that car all the way to Surrey"
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Post# 25664-1/12/2003-11:05 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is!
MESSAGE: The name of the band was Hot Butter. Their whole album is rereleased on CD now. Must have!
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Post# 25665-1/12/2003-11:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Those machines look to be in wonderful condition for their age, do you know the model numbers? I can look them up for you in the model index and give you an exact year of production. Congrats on your new green babies Todd!
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Post# 25666-1/12/2003-11:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is!
MESSAGE: Another great video from Trailer Park Productions! Thanks Jason - always fun to have more videos in the library!
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Post# 25667-1/12/2003-11:30 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is!
MESSAGE: Jason,
Most Excellent video. Loved the music and the timing was perfect. Got a big laugh and fond memory of the keys holding the lid switch. Years ago I did something similar with a screw driver. All went well until it slipped into the spinning basket!! Boy was my Mom pissed! It's amazing how far a screw driver can fly! I believe the quote was.."ARE YOU CRAZY? YOU COULD PUT SOMEONES EYE OUT!" (they must learn these sayings in Mom school).
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Post# 25668-1/12/2003-13:16 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is! (sweet....)
MESSAGE: great pics AND VIDEO Jason !! thanks for sharing.......
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Post# 25669-1/12/2003-13:47 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is!
MESSAGE: Hello Todd and Jason,
Awesome machines and awesome video. Quite an enjoyment!
Louis
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Post# 25670-1/12/2003-14:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Jason, great pics. Yup, even though I was there by phone part of the time, I'm green with envy too. But someday I'll make it to Todd and Gary's.
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Post# 25671-1/12/2003-14:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Todd, you're always the hunky bear, no matter what. Can't wait to hear on the phone BOTH machines going at the same time. There's nothing like multiple Frigidaires going simultaneously. It's a symphony to the ears!!! (Ahh yes, the sounds and smells at Unimatic's and Steve 1-18's houses with multiple Frigidaires!!!!) I'm pulsating in annn tisss ci PA tion!!!
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Post# 25672-1/12/2003-14:39 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Great video production, Jason. You are quite talented. Bob, thanks for the beary nice words. And greg, I will email you the model numbers; I'd love to know how old they are ... they are in great shape and I have to thank Jimmy (filter-flo) for these babies. Bob, did you look closely at the pictures to see our pearls?
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Post# 25673-1/12/2003-15:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Wonderful pictures and videoes. Glad you're enjoying the new machines and glad everyone had a great time! Good clean fun! :)
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Post# 25674-1/12/2003-16:51 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is!
MESSAGE: Wow! Excellent!
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Post# 25675-1/12/2003-17:30 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos (LotR wash in production )
MESSAGE: Hi Jason,
I love the 1/18 set - This reminda me a lot of my Aunts 1/18 set - Hers was a 74' Poppy set
I hope you are doing well
Peter
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Post# 25676-1/12/2003-17:31 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is!
MESSAGE: What a super production number!
What's the spin speed on the 1-18?
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Post# 25677-1/12/2003-18:00 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is!
MESSAGE: About 650. Thats WET compared to a rapidry or Unimatic.
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Post# 25678-1/12/2003-18:01 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is!
MESSAGE: Thanks for all the kind words on the video. I figured Land of the Rust sounds like Lord Of The Rings so I decided to make a spoof of it.
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Post# 25679-1/12/2003-18:04 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is! (Here it is!)
MESSAGE: It is a excellent excellent vidio
Their is nothing like a 1/18
I would like to hear the sounds of the machine working.
Nothing like the sound of Jet Action!
Peter
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Post# 25680-1/12/2003-19:31 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is!
MESSAGE: Great video, guys and very appropriate music to go with it. Those machines are in surprisingly good condition. Did they need any work?? I am guessing that they would date around 1972 or 1973, but that is just a ballpark...
Congratulations on a wonderful set. Makes me even more anxious to find a similar set in poppy.......
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Post# 25681-1/12/2003-19:54 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Estate Sales!
MESSAGE: Whew what a weekend! Came home with another 65 LK dryer, ( in gas, already have it in electric)which I can use for parts off the console to restore the console for the washer. The plastic piece that covers the light is not yellowed at all, which is not the case with the two consoles I currently have. The dryer works and I got it for $20.00. Got a Maytag dishwasher (NEW) for $10.00. It is not vintage, but one I wanted as it is the one that you load with plates on the top, and glasses on the bottom. Portable, so I can squeeze it into my basement ktichen next to the tappan range. Saw an old Fridigaire dryer, a Hamilton dryer, and a mid 60's Kenmore washer. Drove home and saw that my neighbor has an old GE dryer on the curb-will be over soon to check that out.
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Post# 25682-1/12/2003-20:10 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Yes I did look closely to see the pearls, but couldn't. And no Pearl(s) Bailey either (oops wrong washer commercial ha ha ha) But the avocado pumps (the washer) were stunning LOL.
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Post# 25683-1/12/2003-20:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is!
MESSAGE: Well, if it was a Unimatic, it would have been Lord of the 3-Rings!!!!!
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Post# 25684-1/12/2003-20:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales!
MESSAGE: Don, sounds like you had terrific finds. I wish you had a camera to take pics. And I wish you could take pics of the Maytag dw, I'd love to compare the intricacies of your models racks with the ones in Max & Kirk's dishwasher, theirs seems to be the oddest belt-drive set of racks I've ever seen.
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Post# 25685-1/12/2003-20:24 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is! (1-18 )
MESSAGE: It won't play the video for me! Why is that?
Will you please e-mail me the video?
Thanks,
Chris
My e-mail address is camMURRAY20@aol.com.
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Post# 25686-1/12/2003-20:53 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales! (congrads!!)
MESSAGE: wow, sounds like you ran into quite a bit of stuff Don, very cool, that Maytag DW does a great job. My sister-in-law had one in the early eighties and although it was noisy, she said it did a phenomenal job and that she NEVER had to rinse a dish. Best of luck with it...........-GregM
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Post# 25687-1/12/2003-21:26 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: '47 BENDIX DELUXE - RUNNING!
MESSAGE: Hi Imperialbob,
I have done a conversion on a similar Japanese portable washer, I used a Sanyo one. (Actually one machine from two - a Sanyo and a Hoover-badged machine also made by Sanyo. I fitted a smaller driven pulley (the one on the agitator shaft, NOT the one on the motor) to gear it up for a faster spin. The original spin was about 800 rpm, I made it about 1400 rpm. You could achieve the same end by fitting a larger pulley to the motor. It really spins FAST. Good luck with it.
Chris.
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Post# 25688-1/12/2003-21:34 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Greg, the model is W3T-22. Any ideas? I'd love to know what year they are. Thanks.
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Post# 25689-1/12/2003-21:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales!
MESSAGE: Wow - you had an exciting appliance weekend! What does your Maytag dishwasher panel look like?
You are getting closer to the LK washer you want all the time - have fun with your new finds and keep us posted on the GE dryer too.
Greg
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Post# 25690-1/12/2003-21:51 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is! (Great Job!!)
MESSAGE: Jason you amaze me with the way you can put these videos together. Another fantastic job. Todd that is a beautiful set that you have there. I bet you guys had a lot fun!!
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Post# 25691-1/12/2003-21:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: 1973
Another satisfied Frigidaire Customer, 30 years after they were built!
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Post# 25692-1/12/2003-22:02 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales! (Congrats!)
MESSAGE: It sounds like you had a fun weekend! :-) Those are incredible finds. :-) Good for you! I had forgotten all about Maytag's dishes-on-the-top-rack, glasses-on-the-bottom-rack design for dishwashers. Those were great machines. If I remember correctly, Maytag was rather late in introducing dishwashers to their product lineup. That may account for the unusual rack design
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Post# 25693-1/12/2003-22:13 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales! (Congrats!)
MESSAGE: Maytag didn't enter the dishwasher market until 1969. Even the top-loading models had the plates on top racking, unusual design, but good performers.
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Post# 25694-1/12/2003-22:23 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Thanks, Greg. They really are in great shape for being 30 years old ... wish I had held up as well. Heck, the 1965 Rapidry has aged better than me!
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Post# 25695-1/12/2003-22:40 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales! (congrads!!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the nice message Greg. The funny thing is is that this machine is so quiet. I have always heard that they are so noisy, but this one surprised me. Maybe a later model? Wish I had the manual.
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Post# 25696-1/12/2003-22:44 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales!
MESSAGE: This machine has one dial to the right. You push the dial for air dry, and pull it for heat. It is white with black and chrome trim. It is very sharp with a butcher block top that I gave a coat of mineral oil and looks new. I can't belive this for $10.00! The house was a mouse infested pit, and they wanted to move things. This was the same house with the old Hamilton dryer-which I could have got for $5.00-working! I always thought this design of a dw was smart, because with the glasses on the bottom, the stuff from the plates and bowls wasn't blowing up into the inside of the glasses. I remember hearing that people couldn't get used to loading this way, so they reverted back to "normal" rack system. Loading problems, sounds like a Frigidaire three ring washer story!
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Post# 25697-1/12/2003-23:51 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales! (GE Dryer)
MESSAGE: Snuck over to the neighbors and checked out the dryer on the curb. The dryer looks alot like Mark's recent MVC 106 dryer. The dryer is probably one model down from his pics. It has low, medium, high and start buttons on the left, and a timer that goes to 140 min, plus a fluff setting on the right. In beautiful shape, not sure what is wrong.
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Post# 25698-1/13/2003-06:13 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales! (GE Dryer)
MESSAGE: Great finds at those estate sales. Since November, estate sales here in the lower Connecticut area have dwindled to almost nothing. Probably won't pick up again until late in the springtime....
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Post# 25699-1/13/2003-06:22 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is! (Thanks Jason!)
MESSAGE: Jason,
Thanks for the great video!
Brent
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Post# 25700-1/13/2003-09:54 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Nothing beats the look of a 1-18 set! Wonderful! Congrats on that georgeous set!
-ph
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Post# 25701-1/13/2003-10:01 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is!
MESSAGE: But with that wide tub, it puts most machines to shame.
-ph
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Post# 25702-1/13/2003-10:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Those are early models, as the control panel style indicates. So beautiful!
-ph
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Post# 25703-1/13/2003-10:03 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales!
MESSAGE: Very cool! I'd love to have your luck at estate sales!
-ph
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Post# 25704-1/13/2003-10:05 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Woohoo! Love them early models! YAY!
-ph
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Post# 25705-1/13/2003-13:59 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is!
MESSAGE: Jason! I'm just catching up on the postings so this "THANK YOU" is a little late but what a great film!!!....and so very professional!!! Thanks! Mark
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Post# 25706-1/13/2003-21:02 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Todd!!! tsk tsk tsk. You're ageless & priceless, so is Gary!!!
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Post# 25707-1/13/2003-21:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Estate Sales!
MESSAGE: Don, sounds like it's the portable version of Max & Kirk's, except theirs doesn't have a Rinse & Hold on the dial either, I bet yours does. And NOISY. If I'd run it late at night at Thanksgiving, I would have gotten killed by the rest of the guys sleeping in the den with me, even though the noise would have lulled me to sleep LOL. They were all just relieved that none of them had to help clean up the kitchen for a dinner for 25 people. And no appreciation for Susie Homemaker here, I didn't even get asked out once!!!
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Post# 25708-1/13/2003-23:15 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: LotR wash in production photos
MESSAGE: Oh, Bob, you make me blush!
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Post# 25709-1/14/2003-02:24 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working (Bendix machines)
MESSAGE: Hi Jon
Those Frigidaires were never called Jetamatics here as far as I know, so they must have been a special NZ export model from Aus.
Those early F&P's were a Hotpoint design from UK made under license by F&P. They were never sold here but I have seen one orphan over here. UK contributors to this site say they were great and very durable. The transmission is based on the USA GE filter-flo.
I remember when my parents went to NZ in the late seventies or early eighties Mum came back telling me about these brands she had never heard of, until your post I hadn't been able to remember them. It was Savaday and Washrite. I think she also mentioned Shacklock, did they do washers of just fridges?? Are these brand names still used today?
I don't have the knowledge required to set up a Down Under museum, but Robert who runs this site has indicated in the past he might do a down under page in the current museum. He is very busy at present so it may not happen for some time.
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 25710-1/14/2003-08:20 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic...
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone
Best wishes for 2003 and Happy Hunting for all the vintage appliances awaiting good homes....
Just got a load of 1969 Which Consumer Reports and thumbing through was gobsmacked to find a report on the UK Frigidaire Jetamatic, I had no idea that one was made here and certainly have never seen one, so came to post and found the latest messages where about this very machine....how spooky is that....
Also its the same year as the infamous Servis MK41....now what you say the we find both these machines this year....group minds together, start beaming those thoughtwaves!!!!!
Have a look through the link below....
Happy Washing
Mike
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/chestermikeuk/lst?.dir=/Which+Reports1969&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 25711-1/14/2003-08:26 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is! (Great Video Action)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason
Great video, if this isnt your day job it should be, glad you and Todd finally had a chance to get your wash-in....
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 25712-1/14/2003-10:08 ||| frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: UK Consumer Reports
MESSAGE: Mike-- Thanks a million (how much is that in pounds?) for the great Consumer Reports reviews from '69. I was surprised to find how long the cycles were for the top loaders! Most U.S. toploaders run from 40-55 minutes.
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Post# 25713-1/14/2003-10:16 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic...
MESSAGE: Mike,
As I already posted in the ukclassichomeappliances group, these pages bring back many memories especially about the Miele, the AEG and the Indesit. The Miele was the prerunner for the other Miele models with the controls on the front. I don't think this model was sold very much. The AEG model is a BOL frontloader, they had more expensive models with more controls. The Indesit was cheap machine that gave value for money in 1969. They were more reliable than later Indesit models.
I remember a similar design as the Philips toploader. I think this is a H-axis toploader, right? Later Philips toploaders were smaller but had about the same capacity. The first ones of those compact toploaders had glass lids, but I think I remember you couldn't see a lot through these windows since they weren't made of clear glass.
I can't remember seeing the other washers overhere in the Netherlands, not even the Stokvis, although that one was produced here.
Almost forgot, I think I recognize the Philco-Ford machine. I guess it was sold under the Vendomatic label by the V&D chain.
Thanks,
Louis
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Post# 25714-1/14/2003-10:46 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: AGITATOR DANCES
MESSAGE: There's a video in this idea somewhere...Next time we do a big get together, I think a wonderful activity would be to hold a special dance contest where you try to dance in the style of your favorite agitator, and we get to guess which one you're impersonating! At the end, we can have a big dance where all the various motions are represented, and that oughta be something we will all remember for as long as we can....
Start practicing now...
- DO THE JETACTION JUMP
- DO THE SUPER ROTO-SWIRL SWISH
- D0 THE CENTRIC SWING
- DO THE ACTIVATOR
- DO THE HORIZONTAL AXIS ROLL
- D0 THE DUAL ACTION (KINDA LIKE A TWIST)
- INSERT YOUR FAVORITE AGITATOR DANCE HERE!
Can you tell I'm looking forward to the next convention already, whenever and wherever that may be....
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Post# 25715-1/14/2003-11:45 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: AGITATOR DANCES
MESSAGE: But the big prize would go to the dancer who could spin faster than 1140 rpm
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Post# 25716-1/14/2003-12:06 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: AGITATOR DANCES
MESSAGE: Just need to change the words around to the B-52's "Dance This Mess Around"... Do all 16 dances!!!
-ph
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Post# 25717-1/14/2003-12:08 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: AGITATOR DANCES
MESSAGE: -DO THE PHILCO FLAP!
-put a sombrero on your head and DO THE FILTER FLO
-wear a plastic bucket while wearing said hat and DO THE MINI BASKET.
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Post# 25718-1/14/2003-12:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: AGITATOR DANCES (LAND OF 1000 WASHERS)
MESSAGE: Na na na na na na... na na na na naaa. na na na na naaaa. na na na naaaaaaa
You gotta know how to pulsate. (oh yeah)
like Unimatic (ooh ooh)
Swish around around now (oh yeah)
like Lady Kemore (ooh ooh)
You gotta do that twist (oh yeah)
Like a Dual action (ooh ooh)
Flap around now (oh yeah)
like an Automagic (ooh ooh)
... and so on and so forth
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Post# 25719-1/14/2003-13:24 ||| Morgjgriff (Wolverhampton, England)
SUBJECT: Just discovered this site and think it's cool!
MESSAGE: Hi there everybody. I've just discovered this site and think it's cool. I'm from England where we mainly only have "front loading" washing machines, I'm fascinated by the American "Toploaders" and would love to know more about them. Are they very noisy, what is the spin cycle like? In England, a below 1000 spin in not really acceptable, most people go for 1200 spins. I have enclosed a link (below) of my washing machine. It is a Candy Aquaviva 1000. It has an 11lB washload, 1000 spin and 18 programmes including Handwash and a 32 minute Quickwash. It is AA rated for washing and energy efficiency. I look forward to reading and learning more about machines from across the globe.
LINK: http://www.shopcreator.com/mall/easybuy/products/product-143915.stm
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Post# 25720-1/14/2003-14:06 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Just discovered this site and think it's cool!
MESSAGE: Welcome! We have a number of UK members that you can also chat with. We try to keep focus here for machines that are 20 years old or more. For more modern discussions, check out our alternative "sandbox" over at Yahoo.com (link below). Glad you found us!
-ph
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/
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Post# 25721-1/14/2003-15:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Just discovered this site and think it's cool!
MESSAGE: A European welcome to you from the Netherlands. I hope you will enjoy this club. Are there any classics you like? Are you familiar with the English toploaders? Have you seen Chestermikeuk's recent post about the 1969 Which washing machine test?
Louis
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Post# 25722-1/14/2003-15:10 ||| Morgjgriff (Wolverhampton, England)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic... (You brought back a lot of hppy memories for me!)
MESSAGE: Hi, I've just checked out your Photo Album at Yahoo and there is nothing I can say but WOW!!!
It brought back a LOT of memories for me. I've been interested in washing machines since I was a small lad, remember going to Woolworths with me dad and being fascinated by the Hoovermatic Twin Tubs and their vertical oscilator. Hotpoint Top Loaders where also a big favourite of mine. We had many a twin-tub in the 80's, Hotpoints where always the best as their spin speed was 3100 as apposed to 2700 of the Servis Supertwin. Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for bringing back a lot of happy memories for me. Look forward to reading your other posts.
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Post# 25723-1/14/2003-15:18 ||| Morgjgriff (Wolverhampton, England)
SUBJECT: RE: Just discovered this site and think it's cool!
MESSAGE: Hi, yes, I've just checked out Mikes Yahoo Photo's. They brought back a lot a happy memories for me. We have a few "Top-loaders" in Britain. They are made by Bosch, Zanussi, Hotpoint, Miele and Whirlpool. The Bosch, Zanussi and Miele models are "slimline" Top-loaders, they have a vertical drum like a Front-loader, only access is from a hinged lid from the top. Hotpoint used to make traditional Top-Loaders with a central agitator, I have not seen one in the stores for a few years now though, they have started to make "slimline" Top-loaders now too. American Heavy Duty Top-loaders are now making an appearance over here. These are my favourite. From what I have read they only spin at 620 max, I'd love to know how damp this leaves clothing and how noisy they are whilst spinning. 1000 spin in just about acceptable here! What type of machines are there where you live?
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Post# 25724-1/14/2003-15:56 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Just discovered this site and think it's cool! (Welcome)
MESSAGE: Glad you're here. If you want to see some great photos of classic American top loaders be sure to check out the collection pics in our members link section - especially Robert "unimatic"'s link. Also, be sure and visit the museum section whcih you can access from this group's homepage. It has some close-up pics of timer dials, tubs, agitators, owner's manuals and a few great videos of the machines in action.
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Post# 25725-1/14/2003-17:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Just discovered this site and think it's cool!
MESSAGE: I'm fascinated by the Hotpoint toploader, Mike has one. If I ever travel to the UK I would love to see it.
As for modern appliances, I don't think there are many differences nowadays between the UK and the Netherlands. If you want to follow discussions about modern appliances, there's not only our Sandbox (Peter posted the link) but there is also the Appliances Forum. You might want to browse that site too. The link is at the bottom. If you are interested in modern American appliances, you could browse the sites of the manufacturers. Or just look at www.sears.com.
Louis
Louis
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/appl/
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Post# 25726-1/14/2003-18:31 ||| jonob (New Zealand)
SUBJECT: RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working (Bendix machines)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris
The Shacklock brand was and still is used by F&P. They use it to distingish between models of the same machine. Normally Shacklock would be a basic model of either a Fridge, Dishwasher or Washing Machine.
Cheers
Jon
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Post# 25727-1/14/2003-19:02 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: AGITATOR DANCES
MESSAGE: Bob, I've been doing an agitator dance since I was a toddler--"The Horizontal Axis Roll", everytime I fall (which can be many times a month) LOL
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Post# 25728-1/14/2003-19:51 ||| kirk280980 (Lincoln UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Just discovered this site and think it's cool!
MESSAGE: Mike certainly has a very enviable collection - he's one lucky boy!
I like top loaders too, and the older Hotpoints were my favourites. Even though they're no longer made, there are still plenty available on the secondhand market, and I'd really like to get my hands on one sometime in the future - all that gushing water makes them quite mesmerising to watch.
Should you wish to learn more about the new American top loaders, why not pop over to the Sandbox? Myself and all the other members will be glad to fill you in on all the details :o)
Welcome to the club, by the way!
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Post# 25729-1/14/2003-19:58 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: Well, while trolling through the local WalMart this week, I noticed that the change has begun to take hold. I saw the new Surf or ALL or whatever it is called these days. And to me it seems a bit ridiculous. The Surf liquids have a peel off label inviting you to look underneath so as to see the exciting new look. The exciting new look is that they are now labelled as All products but underneath the All name is Surf in small letters. Surf powders and tablets on the other hand continue to be labelled primarily as Surf, but the label now announces that they contain "All stainlifters".
This all seems kind of silly to me, especially the part about the powders containing All stainlifters. As we all know, Surf has always been an enzyme product, whereas All has never had enzymes. So where are these magical "stainlifters"??? Does this now mean that Surf's formula mirrors that of All and therefore no longer contains enzymes?? If so, sounds like a step backwards to me. Oh, well, just some junk food for thought. So much for a return to the All we know and love - concentrated, low suds and with the 3B's............. This is almost as bad as new quick dissolving Tide that doesn't dissolve or the new dreadful fragrance of regular Tide powder...... is there no end to the "improvements"??????
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Post# 25730-1/14/2003-20:24 ||| mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: GE with Mini Basket (It depends)
MESSAGE: If it's a plastic part that's leaking, then epoxy would work, yes. I've used an epoxy glue from hobby shops back when I was into model rocketry, and it worked very well. That stuff is designed to hold togather a model rocket that exceeds the speed of sound while on its way up! I think you want the 10 minute epoxy, though.
Speaking of Filter-Flos, I am half tempted to plug the one I have in. But I'm not sure. I just think it needs a good cleaning before I do anything with it. It'll be fun to play with when it's done though.
Does anybody know how to remove rust stains from plastic parts?
MrCoffee
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Post# 25731-1/14/2003-20:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: Anthony, sounds like we could call it "New All" with boring, benign, and bummers. Surf's up, I don't intend to "catch the wave"!
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Post# 25732-1/14/2003-21:32 ||| mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is?? (Don't feel bad...)
MESSAGE: I had my turn in the barrel when they made "improvements" to Cheer's scent. Want something that ain't "improved" all the time? Perhaps you could try Dreft....
MrCoffee
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Post# 25733-1/15/2003-00:02 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: I've switched to using Ariel, in the box, from Wal-Mart. I vaguely recall the following prices from last purchase --
7-load box = $1.78
15 loads = $3.68
22 loads = $6.86
120 loads = $18.96
7- and 15-load sizes are plentiful. 22-load size is way up on a top shelf, not many there. Maybe 1 to 3 of the 120-load size is usually on a bottom shelf.
I still don't know if it's the same as the Mexican Ariel in a bag. I think it was PeterH who said it should have a fruity/sweet/apple scent, which it kinda does.
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Post# 25734-1/15/2003-03:12 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Consumer Reports (Hot Water)
MESSAGE: Hello
Glad you enjoyed the reviews, the times do seem long compared to your top loaders, the ones in the tests have internal electric heaters and the times in the reports are for the time it takes to complete a hot cotton fabric wash (85d or 185f) starting from cold fill.....
I`m sure most washes would be completed using the 40d / 104f temp and linked to the hot water supply would make comparable wash times with your machines.
The one exception to this might be the Frigidaire Jetamatic, the running costs and time are lower than the other top loaders but the report doesnt seem to suggest that this machine doesnt have a heater....
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 25735-1/15/2003-03:52 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Consumer Reports (Frigidaire toploader vs other British toploaders)
MESSAGE: In the text there is mentioned that the heating element in the Frigidaire Jetamatic doesn't come on while doing smaller loads. I presume that is because the Frigidaire had a solid tub? I also presume that the other toploaders (Hotpoint and Servis) had perforated drums?
Louis
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Post# 25736-1/15/2003-03:52 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic...
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
Certainly makes interesting reading, the Philips is a horizontal drum machine and looks like the first model to be made here, interestingly its the later models from France and Netherlands which see the drum move to the familiar front to back position.
The AEG does look a basic machine and could you get a bigger LAVAMAT name logo written across the front, Naomi Klein would have a field day!!! I like the look of the Miele, looks very sturdy and classic, and again we see these machines for use as a stand alone with the detergent dispensers on the top making them unsuitable for under worktops etc..
Those Indesit machines must have made the company millions for the ammount that where sold...back then people had no realisation that the spin effeciency was so poor until you had paid your money and started to use it....most people had been used to twinnys or stand alone spinners whizzing the water out at 2,800rpm etc...in the later reports we see the spin effeciency ratings really being pushed, and as we now see in the market today all our machines are sold in groups determined by spin speed etc..
The Hotpoint top loader, as with the first previous model the 1500, still has the seperate control for time and temp and switches for water level, its the next model the 1504 that we see the famous "Timeline" appear...
Did the Frigidaire Jetamatic ever make over to you??? Keith (aka Keymatic) has posted a colour photo of it in UKClassic Appliances, looks a cool machine, and it states it uses the Rollermat mechanism so at 191g force spin do I take it its not the 1140 uni rpm??
Happy reading
Mike
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ukclassichomeappliances/files/Frigidaire%20-%20Jetation.jpg
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Post# 25737-1/15/2003-04:00 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: AGITATOR DANCES (Swing or Spin!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob
Now that should be one for the video!!!
But only if you play trombone and bring your band with you...
Cheers, Mike
p.s. Any official dates /times for a convention this year???
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Post# 25738-1/15/2003-04:08 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic... (You brought back a lot of hppy memories for me!)
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club
Glad you found us, as you are interested in US machines as well you`ve got the right place, you`ll spend days and weeks looking at all the members photos and links and will be asking questions for a long time.
Such a wealth of information and expertise here in the repair and renovation of machines, when you finally come across them, that the older restored machines will probably outlive us all!!!
Its my aim this year to get video clips of my machines in action, not as easy as Jason makes it look but sure is fun doing it.....
Enjoy
Mike
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Post# 25739-1/15/2003-04:24 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: Hi Anthoney
Sounds like you are having a revamp and consolidation of your detergents like we had here and Europe a few years ago, bring back the vintage OMO, Rinso and Allbrite I say.....
It will be interesting to see how many people switch to liquids with the newer FL less water machines on the market...I personally always use liquids which I find dissolve instantly with the small ammount of water used in the latest machines (or Dry-Clean washers as Uni says)...LOL
I see a new thread for the sandbox
Mike
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Post# 25740-1/15/2003-04:31 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is?? (3 B`s....)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob
Good to see your sense of humour can still make us smile...
What are the original three B`s???
What was the very first vintage powder that you ever remember using???
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 25741-1/15/2003-04:38 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: Hi Glen
What was the vintage powder that you remember using in your Kelvinator Splash-a-Drama family washer??
If the Mexican Ariel is different from your powder, does that make it more like the European stuff or is it a different formula again, ours have scents like mountain breeze etc..
Mike
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Post# 25742-1/15/2003-06:04 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic...
MESSAGE: Hey Mike,
No, the Frigidaire Jetamatic never made it to the Netherlands and neither did the Servis and the Hotpoint I think. The Netherlands never was a country for agitator washers I guess. In 1969 there were few people left that still had a wringer washer or a twintub, most people had changed to frontloaders by then. I saw Keith's picture, perhaps this machine is a Rapidry in disguise? If so the spinspeed could be 1010rpm.
Before 1975 there was only one Miele model (W441) with the soap dispenser on the front. It was a built in machine with a closed front, you can see it in the scan of the 1973 Miele brochure (click the link for a picture of this machine). In 1975 there were new models brought out, most of them now had the dispenser in the control panel (I still have to scan that brochure!)
The Indesit like most other Italian made washing machines didn't do well in spin performance. Most of them spun at around 400rpm, some even a little less. My grandparents had a Zanussi that only spun at 360rpm. But then again almost all households in the Netherlands had a separate spinner so the low spinspeeds never were a big problem. It was just a little more hassle. OTOH these at least slightly spun out clothes were easier to handle than the clothes that were not spun at all like from the UPO washers. My great uncle had an Indesit and I think it lasted for around 15 years. He called everybody stupid who was buying expensive washers. I'm glad though that my mother didn't listen to him...
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/1973-1974+Miele+brochure&.dnm=Miele73-05.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 25743-1/15/2003-06:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is?? (3 B`s....)
MESSAGE: Bleach, Borax and Brighters! Jetcone (Jon Charles, btw has anyone heard from him lately?) suggested recently that that should be our club greeting.
Louis
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Post# 25744-1/15/2003-06:28 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working (Bendix machines)
MESSAGE: Hi Jon.
From reading Chestermike's Which magazine article it looks like your NZ Frigidaire Jetamatics were imported from UK. If you are familiar with them, can you describe them for us please? Did they have the up-and-down agitator (pulsator) that USA and Aus Frigidaires had?
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 25745-1/15/2003-06:41 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic...
MESSAGE: Well it looks like the question in my last post is answered in Mike's link. It has the Rollermatic mechanism. So it looks like the UK and NZ got GM Frigidaire models that were never sold here in Australia. (As far as I'm aware, Rollermatics were never made or sold here.) So my only chance of finding one of these machines is if it has been privately imported...(and survived this long)... I'll keep my fingers crossed.
Chris.
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Post# 25746-1/15/2003-07:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic...
MESSAGE: This is great Mike - thanks for posting these pages. The English Electric model looks like a Westinghouse clone from the U.S.
The Frigidaire (and other top loaders )is interesting, would they have been agitating during the time the water was heating? If this was a Rollermatic Frigidaire, the spin speed could have been 1010 RPM.
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Post# 25747-1/15/2003-07:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: I bought some of this Ariel at Wal Mart a while ago, one 7 load box for each laundry room, but haven't opened the second box yet and there's still some left in the first. Good thing I have clothespins handy for noses - I couldn't get past the scent, it is very strong!
I've been using Quick Dissolving Tide from a "man sized" box from Sam's Club - what a sudser in the GE! Always a bubble cake that the GE struggles to get rid of, even the Unimatic overflow rinse is a little murky - and my water softener doesn't come until next Monday!
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Post# 25748-1/15/2003-15:08 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: I can't use any high sudser in the Frigidaires. The 1-18 that I have chokes on the spin cycle and never gets up to even slow speed. SUDS-LOCK!. I only use about half scoop for full load to boot. The solid tub Frigidaires are better at suds but you still have soap cake or worse-suds coming out the top of the machine. I use HE Tide now and that eliminated the SUDS-LOCK problem.
Cheers to all,
Bruce
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Post# 25749-1/15/2003-18:33 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is?? (3 B`s....)
MESSAGE: I think it was Bleach, Borax, and Brighteners.
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Post# 25750-1/15/2003-18:34 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: We used Tide for YEARS. My father owned a service station, and bought it by the case for washing down the service bay floors.
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Post# 25751-1/15/2003-18:37 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: Oh yeah, our '62 Whirlpool had suds-locks ALL (uhhh, but not from All) the time.
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Post# 25752-1/15/2003-18:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: Oh no...the best part of Frigidaire solid-basket washers is the bubble cakes and suds coming out of the top of the machine!! Here's a picture of one - keep clicking to see it fly all over the room too!
I think Jon/Jetcone told me you have very soft water there, here we have sand and pebbles coming out of the faucets. The 1-18's are very "frothy" machines because of the air that the pulsating draws into the water. I've never had one suds-lock before though - I'll bet that's fun to get rid of!
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Post# 25753-1/15/2003-18:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: Well, here's the picture ;-)
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire+1950+WO65+%26+TR60+Filtrator&.src=ph&.dnm=Bubble+Cake.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%2b1950%2bWO65%2b%2526%2bTR60%2bFiltrator%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25754-1/15/2003-19:22 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is?? (What is?)
MESSAGE: What exactly is Suds lock? How does it happen and how does it keep a washer from spinning?
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Post# 25755-1/15/2003-19:47 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is?? (What is?)
MESSAGE: Suds-lock is a build up of thick foam that is produced between the outer and inner baskets which causes very slow spin and places an extra strain on the motor. This only happens when more than enough detergent or soap is used with either extra low water level on normal agitation speeds or by certain machines like GE, Frigidaire Jetcones or Whirlpool/Kenmore manual lint filter and all front loaders washers.
With this type of condition, it's like taking the power steering out of todays car!
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Post# 25756-1/15/2003-19:55 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: SUDS LOCK
MESSAGE: It's FRICTION! Caused by a heavy head of suds getting caught between the inner and outer tub and being worked and pulled like something between whipped cream and taffy! When it comes time for the wash tub to spin, it is designed to do so without any 'drag' caused by the whipping up of too thick of a head of suds, or 'suds lock'. It causes clutch pads and belts to suffer horribly, and will eventually cause failure, do the undue friction . Plainly put, it'll cause the washer not to be able to get up to full speed spin and will cause undue wear to the spin mechanism.
I only use WISK HE or sometime those tablets Purex HE, because suds lock is really hard on a machine, and truely not uncommon - lots of folks do it and don't even know it! Also, I do like using OXYCLEAN in the washer, and it doesn't suds up much at all either..
SUDS LOCK is BAD,,,, mmmmmmKay?
;-)
BOB
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Post# 25757-1/15/2003-21:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is?? (3 B`s....)
MESSAGE: Mikey, the original 3 Bs were--Bleach, Borax, and Brighteners. Lilly Tomlin was the pitch lady for the commercials. She'd stain a blouse with grease I believe, have water come up around her and her body would agitate back & forth in this water, thus cleaning her blouse.
My earliest memory of detergent was the Rinso Blue my mom used to use and this was in our GE top loader, I was too young to remember what was used in the Bendix. I also remember Clorox Bleach in the brown glass bottle and pink Sta Puf fabric softener or the cheaper Texise brand.
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Post# 25758-1/15/2003-21:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: The Kenmore 800 would have a suds lock whenever I did a load of towels and undies, regardless of detergent brand used and that included 3B All and Fresh Start. Actually the pump had such a difficult time dealing with all that concentrated water being thrown out by those super absorbant fibers. And ths would happen even on the spin following the rinse.
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Post# 25759-1/15/2003-21:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: Well Greg, I must digress some. I like suds cakes occassionally with Frigidaires, but I prefer the full view of surging water, rolling over clothes, and splashing water as much as possible. That's what I loved about being at Steve's this summer, Purex liquid all the way and I had a descent view of every load done in every Frigidaire.
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Post# 25760-1/15/2003-21:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: Purex liquid is (almost) a low sudser. Towels can make it suds more than I'd like in Sir Frigemore.
I'm back to Wisk HE (pronounced "Whiskey"). It's real low sudsing and cleans nicely.
My mom has some detergent bought at Sam's that makes no suds. Probably some cheap stuff that's 80% filler and 20% detergent.
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Post# 25761-1/15/2003-21:48 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is?? (What is?)
MESSAGE: And sometimes due to a vapor-lock (is that the right term? maybe foam-lock is better??) on the pump, spray rinses wouldn't pump out.
A dash of Downy to the rescue!
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Post# 25762-1/15/2003-21:49 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: I don't get any suds with the box Ariel.
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Post# 25763-1/15/2003-23:27 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic...
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
Very interesting Miele brochure, you can see the difference in the older and newer style models, the 412 & 421 in 1973 look an older styling than the Miele 429 in uk 1969....
The Frigidaire looks like it could be a Rapidry, would love to see the inside to see how the heater is incorporated etc, if the figures are right it was a very efficient water heater, would that be something to do with the solid tub and less water perhaps??
You are right Servis and Hotpoint do have holes in the baskets, that will account for the higher water capacities.
A designer friend of mine uses his Indesit 1982 model outside in his garden, all linked up to circuit breakers etc...and had stood the British weather for 8+years...just keeps going..
Mike
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Post# 25764-1/15/2003-23:39 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic... (Imports!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris
Interesting stuff this turned out to be with the Jetamatic....did all your Frigidaire models have heaters in them, and if so do you know if they are large circular ones fixed over the surface of the outer tub or compact block models in a sump area below the water line/outer tub bottom.
You never know you luck, there might just be an import waiting to be found, after all that how I found my Aus Simpson!!!
Happy hunting
Mike
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Post# 25765-1/16/2003-00:17 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic... (Hot Water!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
You`re right about the English Electric looking like the Westinghouse, did your models have heaters in them??
Interesting concept about the Jetamatic having a heater, I suspect that like my Hotpoint Filter-Flow, when heating it will agitate intermittently until the correct temp is achieved, then commence the timed wash cycle.
When a solid basket fills for the wash does it also fill the outer tub???
I was wondering how the Jetamatic heats the water assuming the heater IS in the outer tub and not somehow in the inner washbowl or under the Jetcone?? Must it also have re-circulating water action if the heated water in the outer tub has to get to the inner wash bowl???
By the report specs it has a very effecient water heating system against the Servis and Hotpoint perforated tubs.
Mike
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Post# 25766-1/16/2003-00:27 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: Open Question: Hot Water heating????
MESSAGE: Given the discussion about the Figidaire Jetamatic solid tub with heater...What do you think would be the quickest way to heat a tub full of water from cold???
1.No Agitation - Heated water from tub bottom rises through to the top until correct temp is achieved.(residual heat dissipation, low level hot,middle level warm, top level cool)
2.Intermittent Agitation - hot water from around heater mixes with cooler water from above.
3.Continuous Agitation - water is same temp throughout as it heats up because it is being continuously moved over and around the heater (more friction)
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Post# 25767-1/16/2003-07:02 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is?? (what?)
MESSAGE: I thought Ariel was the Suds Monster. Maybe P%G fixed it be low sudsing. Does it still have phosphates?
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Post# 25768-1/16/2003-07:19 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic... (Imports!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike
Frigidaires over here only had heaters on the top models. The same applied to other brands of top loader made or sold in Aus such as Whirlpool, Simpson, Hoover. I have never seen a heated Westinghouse or GE but I suppose they exist too. In general people only bought a heated washer if they had only cold water supply to the laundry room, such as converting a laundry with copper to take a washing machine. Otherwise most people bought non-heat models. Hoover Keymatics all had a heater, though.
In the Aussie Frigidaires, if a heater is fitted the procedure is as follows... The water fills the inner tub. (not heated)The user has to manually spin out the water into the outer tub. The heater is turned on. When the water is up to temperature, the machine is set to agitate/start the wash. The water gets pumped back into the inner tub. THEN the clothes and detergent are added, and the machine is left to automatically complete the cycle. Imagine it as a manual heater before becoming an automatic washer. Other brands which had perforated inner bowls could be used more or less automatically, though it didn't agitate and heat at the same time, as the heating elements are generally 2400 watts which is the maximum current draw allowed under Aussie regulations (10 amp at 240v), so the motor couldn't run at the same time. (15 amp installations are allowed too, but require a special plug/socket/wiring and are VERY uncommon in houses) (Anything over 15 amp has to be hard-wired.)
The elements were a large circular tube around the entire bowl base.
There are actuallly lots of orphan imports here, I'm not sure why, do many immigrants think we Aussies wash our clothes on rocks or something? My collection has included two Indesit FL W/D's, two Philips TLFL's, two Hotpoint FL's, a Candy FL W/D, a Hoover FL and a Fisher & Paykel ECS Autowasher, none of which were available new here. I have also seen one of those lovely Hotpoint TL's in a recycling yard, if I ever get back there I will see if it's still available. (BY the way Mike, do you know what might cause the transmission to be locked solid on a Hotpoint TL? Do they have a brake that holds the transmission tight when not spinning, or would that be a fault? (I'm referring to the machine at the recyclers, I didn't get it because I couldn't turn the transmission pullley by hand and was worried what horrors that might mean. )
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 25769-1/16/2003-07:59 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic... (Hot Water!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike - I don't think there were ever heaters in the Westy washers here, possibly in the combo unit. A heater in a washer here was rare mostly due to the lower power supply to the washer (115v) and only now with the intro of the Whirlpool & Kenmore front loading washers will you find a heater, and then only for supplementing the household hot water supply to the machine, heating water to 160F max. My Bendix Duomatic (240v) had a "Magic Heater" to maintain the temp of the hot water wash cycle, it was not designed to heat the water from cold, again, only supplemental boost for the household water.
In a perforated tub washer, the addition of a heater would be quite simple, but a solid basket washer is another matter. In most solid tub machines, only the inner wash tub filled with water. In some models, the solid tub would over-fill with water allowing a certain amount of water to run into the outer tub that was measured by pressure for proper water level and then recirculated such as the GE through a filtering system. Heating water in an "overfill" solid tub machine would be a little easier, an element could be simply be added to the outer tub to heat the recirculating water. In a machine like the Frigidaire which had a rubber pulsator, the addition of the heater would have been detrimental to that assembly, as well as a challenge getting power safely to an element inside a tub that eventually must spin. I would think in all solid tub machines, it would be easier to use a recirculating system for heating the water but unless the agitation was only intermittent, the clothes would endure a significant amount of wear and nearly shredded by the time the heating system would have reached the target temperature in 8-10 gallons of water.
I guess you'll just have to find one of those Jetamatics so we can find out for sure! ;-)
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Post# 25770-1/16/2003-09:56 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Here it is!
MESSAGE: I must say that I'm impressed the way the video came out, WOW!
I'm still looking for one of those in my neck of the hood, but it will be a great find if I'm able to catch one!
Now if I can find out why my Window Media Player is giving me a hard time viewing the movie after a clean install!?!? Damn suds-lock!
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Post# 25771-1/16/2003-10:12 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: I have thick towels and always have sudslock with them. There won't be a bubble in the machine and they will sudslock. I was surprised that the LK does it. I thought the boring neutral drain would prevent it. Oh no, it sure doesn't. My Maytag used to clear it with the long spray rinse concentrated to the bottom of the tub. I think the 1-18 Jet Circle spray rinse actually makes the lock worse by forcing the water thru the clothes. That one is really sad, because it is such a thorough spray rinse that you wish it would clear the lock, and it doesn't at all.
-ph
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Post# 25772-1/16/2003-10:17 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is?? (what?)
MESSAGE: Ariel can be a suds monster. You really have to use it in moderation, which you would anyway unless you want to smell like you worked in the Jolly Rancher green apple factory. I think you can use alot less of it and get a really clean wash because of the phosphates and the enzymes in it. I think it really is an excellent detergent, even if it is a P&G product.
-ph
LINK: http://www.mexgrocer.com/brand_displayproducts.asp?brand=ariel
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Post# 25773-1/16/2003-10:35 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: Another 1969 picture
MESSAGE: Yesterday's newspaper contained a small article about the 50th anniversary of the dutch consumerorganization. This article was accompanied by a picture of the washing machines they tested in 1969. All tested machines were frontloaders. I guess they tested the cheaper washers, I don't see a Miele, Bosch or AEG.
I recognize four washers. On the far left is a Candy, significant for Candy's from that time was the rim around the porthole that sticks a little forward. In front of the third tree on the right is a Bendix or Philco Bendix or a rebadged (perhaps Vendomatic) machine. Left from this machine, almost in the middle is an Indesit, like the Candy it has the controls on the top, but not at the rear. Between the Indesit and the Bendix, a little more at the back, almost on it's own there is a Philips frontloader (could be rebadged as Ruton). It has a somewhat slanted front (the drum was not slanted though). Besides that I think the washer in front (at the right) could be a Marynen (Zanussi).
My first impression when I saw the picture was that those washers already looked so much alike. There are 22 frontloaders and almost all (you can't see them all) have a bull's eye. Most have the controls on the front. There are a few differences, not all of them had a soap dispenser yet and if they had one it was on top of the machine.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/More+washers&.dnm=Consumentenbond+1969.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 25774-1/16/2003-10:49 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Another 1969 picture
MESSAGE: Oh noooo, that dog is trying to mark his spot!
Please Boo Boo, not the glass, NOT ON THE GLASS!
;-))
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Post# 25775-1/16/2003-10:59 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is?? (what?)
MESSAGE: So I guess you would use warm water only with this stuff. i'll have to go get a little box and try it. I'm washing tonight so now's the perfect opportunity.
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Post# 25776-1/16/2003-13:07 ||| morgjgriff (Wolverhampton, England)
SUBJECT: What is the noise level like on a toploader when spinning?
MESSAGE: Hi, can anyone tell me what a "Toploader" sounds like when spinning. I'm particuarly interested in the 1980's Hotpoint toploaders. Also, how damp are clothes after a "fast spin" in a "Toploader" and what is the average "Fast" spin speed? Do clothes come out as dry as say a 1000 spin in a "Frontloader" and is the noise level and sound comparable? You'll have to forgive my naiviety, I have been fascinated by washing machines since being a youngster, I'm not yet up on all the technochalities though.
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Post# 25777-1/16/2003-13:09 ||| morgjgriff (Wolverhampton, England)
SUBJECT: What is the noise level like on a toploader when spinning?
MESSAGE: Hi, can anyone tell me what a "Toploader" sounds like when spinning. I'm particuarly interested in the 1980's Hotpoint toploaders. Also, how damp are clothes after a "fast spin" in a "Toploader" and what is the average "Fast" spin speed? Do clothes come out as dry as say a 1000 spin in a "Frontloader" and is the noise level and sound comparable? You'll have to forgive my naiviety, I have been fascinated by washing machines since being a youngster, I'm not yet up on all the technochalities though.
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Post# 25778-1/16/2003-13:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the noise level like on a toploader when spinning?
MESSAGE: It depends on the toploader. The 1950s Frigidaire top loaders were very quiet and could spin at 1140rpm. Most toploaders today spin at 650 and the clothes feel pretty damp. Top loaders are louder than front loaders. Different brands make different noises. 80s Hotpoint is made by GE so it's pretty loud. It has a motor hum plus the sound of the pump sucking the water out. Those spun are 650rpm.
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Post# 25779-1/16/2003-13:50 ||| morgjgriff (Wolverhampton, England)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the noise level like on a toploader when spinning?
MESSAGE: Jason, thanks for the info mate. Frontloaders here are kinda noisy too. I have a Candy Aquaviva 1000, spinning it makes 69 decibels and washing 65. I previously owned a Whirlpool AWM323, that was also 1000 spin but made 72 decibels washing and 79 spinning. Are modern Amecian Toploaders as loud as that? I quite like the look of the Maytag Performa.
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Post# 25780-1/16/2003-14:10 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: Just call me Miss Frigidaire...........
MESSAGE: My little on-line tribute to the Frigidaire Flair is now the number two ranking on Google (when you search for the words Frigidaire Flair, that is) In fact, the number one ranking is a post ImperialBob did on this board.
The trouble is I am starting to get technical questions that go well beyond the scope of my knowledge (which is mainly limited to looking fabulous as I pull a roast of of the See-Level ovens ;-)
None of the commerical restoration sites that I know of will handle flairs, so I'm at a loss for referals. Is there anyone out there with Flair technical knowledge who would like to help me out with questions?
LINK: http://www.danlangdon.com/flair.htm
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Post# 25781-1/16/2003-14:35 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: Just call me Miss Frigidaire...........
MESSAGE: My parents had this Flair until they moved 8 years ago. They left it with the house. I guess it is still being used. Mom said she used the roterserie once and splatted all over. She still has the extra gridle and broiler pans. They didn't have the vent though was the only thing they didn't have. She still misses this stove evertime she cooks or bakes. Does your ovens have the removeable teflon panels for easy cleaning? This was a great idea before the self cleaning ones came out.
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Post# 25782-1/16/2003-15:27 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: Yup!. I end up resetting the machine to fill so that I get enough water in the bottom and then spinning it out. I do this at least twice just to get the suds out plus the 48 gallons for a regular wash. Who said these machines were wastefull. HEHEHEHE! I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Post# 25783-1/16/2003-15:33 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: Just call me Miss Frigidaire........... (Teflon Panels? How Deluxe!)
MESSAGE: My oven has the chrome walls, but they clean rather easily. The Broiler on the Flairs are really cool, and are one of the best features, particularly when used with the custom designed broiler pan.
As long-time readers to this board know, the rotisserie unit is my holy grail, spatters or not ;-) MUST! HAVE! ROTISSERIE!
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Post# 25784-1/16/2003-15:43 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Just call me Miss Frigidaire...........
MESSAGE: I have a 1960' Frigidaire Flaire Model RCIB 645 double oven. I also have the Tech manual for this model. What year is yours. Maybe I can help you with questions. Even if your range is a couple of years newer some or all of the internals may be the same. I hope I can help.
Bruce
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Post# 25785-1/16/2003-15:51 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Just call me Miss Frigidaire...........
MESSAGE: As far as I know the Flaires had the chrome ovens. I am not sure when they may have stopped this. Frigidaire did the chrome look for looks mostly. Not the easiest ovens to clean if you leave spatters on them over time. But they sure look great!. I will have to check some other tech manuals I have to see.
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Post# 25786-1/16/2003-15:54 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Just call me Miss Frigidaire...........
MESSAGE: I now I have other 60's model tech manuals. I will have to look for years. Let me know.
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Post# 25787-1/16/2003-16:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Just call me Miss Frigidaire...........
MESSAGE: I have all of the Frigidaire Tech-Talk manuals and parts books for 1949-1979 if there is a need for more info too.
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Post# 25788-1/16/2003-16:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Just call me Miss Frigidaire........... (Great Site!!)
MESSAGE: Your Flair page is a truly fitting tribute to a fabulous range! I also enjoyed the rest of your site as well - if only I had the time!
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Post# 25789-1/16/2003-17:08 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Just call me Miss Frigidaire........... (Page)
MESSAGE: This is outstanding - You did a great job with this website.
Peter
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Post# 25790-1/16/2003-18:47 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Another 1969 picture
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
What a fantastic picture!!
It warms the heart to see 22 washing machines happily frolicking in the park.
(I just looked up "frolic" in the dictionary to check spelling and found that the word is derived from Dutch, vrolijk, meaning happy/happily. Thanks Louis for giving us such a happy little word.)
Chris.
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Post# 25791-1/16/2003-18:53 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the noise level like on a toploader when spinning?
MESSAGE: Allow me to demonstrate, 80's hotpoint at spin is pretty noisy, kind of an loud ARRRRRRR then a thunderous CLACK CLACK at the end of the spin. All said those machines are tuffies, I get them as trades all the time and the only thing I've ever really had problems with is leaking over the top during the drain. Whenever i see them at auction i take them home, there a darn good deal for 20 bucks!
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Post# 25792-1/16/2003-20:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the noise level like on a toploader when spinning?
MESSAGE: Those GE motors do have a "growl" to them. the motor in my GE dryer goes GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR as it's running. Not quiet at all. I have the sound of a 50s GE spinning that I recorded at last years convention. This is pretty close to an 80s Hotpoint. Listen to that tough GE motor hum. Those were the days.
LINK: http://members.cox.net/rotoswirl/videos/50sgespin.mp3
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Post# 25793-1/16/2003-20:54 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: Today's POD OMG the fridge!!!
MESSAGE: THAT Frigidaire fridge was the exact one my grandmother bought in the later 1950s, which we inherited when she moved to an apartment in 1964 (replacing our 1948 Kelvinator) and we kept that Fridge until 1969 when my parents wanted a larger fridge and bought a SxS Gibson in harvest gold.
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Post# 25794-1/16/2003-21:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is??
MESSAGE: See Peter with your LK, just like our Kenmore 800, suds lock with load of towels.
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Post# 25795-1/16/2003-21:14 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Just call me Miss Frigidaire........... (Page)
MESSAGE: Dan, a terrific page. You have such flair, even without your Flair!!! A most suitable tribute to an incredible range.
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Post# 25796-1/16/2003-21:38 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Just call me Miss Frigidaire...........
MESSAGE: Wow! Great website. You did a WONDERFUL job! :-) The Frigidaire Flair is one of my absolute all time favorite stoves. Thanks for all the hard work and thanks for sharing.
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Post# 25797-1/16/2003-22:47 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: Just call me Miss Frigidaire........... (Thanks!)
MESSAGE: First off, thanks to everyone and their kind words on the site. I really appreciate it. My Flair is fine, except for that missing rotisserie, of course. And the dead clock. And the non-working convenience outlet. But enough of my miseries. Miss Frigidaire has her public!
A visitor to the Flair site wrote me that he is looking for a schematic for a model #RCDB 640-1 - a Custom Deluxe who's burners are feeling poorly - actually they seem to be somewhat dead. He tested the controls, and they work, and tested the burners, and they work, so it's something else, hence the need for the schematic. I asked him if there is a schematic on the back, but it was scratched off. If anyone has a schematic they'd like to share, I'll make the arrangements.
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Post# 25798-1/17/2003-00:53 ||| jonob (New Zealand)
SUBJECT: RE: SUDS LOCK (Suds lock)
MESSAGE: Hi everyone. Suds lock can be cheated by adding fabric softner mixed with a litre of water to the machine ( in the case of a f/loader if it has one thru the detergent drawer. If it does not have a detergent drawer and you can open the door while it is going, then quickly throw the water in).
For a top loader same thing...just lift the lid and pour it in.
This has worked many times in my machine especially when doing a full load of heavy towels.
Not recommended to do this all the time however as scud can form from the reaction between softner and detergent.
cheers
Jon
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Post# 25799-1/17/2003-01:04 ||| jonob (New Zealand)
SUBJECT: RE: 1947 Bendix Bolted and Working (Jetamatics in NZ)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris
the jetamatics we had here did indeed have the up-and-down agitator. The machines were bright white, dark blue tub with a lighter blue agitator. The controls were simple with just a control (timer) knob which you turned to select either the normal or gentle cycle and the wash time length..from memory from 15 to 2 mins on the normal cycle. No difference in the wash action, the final spin on the gentle cycled stopped 1/2way thu for about a minute and then started again. The other dial was used to select the wash and rinse temp combination you wanted.
I will see if I can locate some material on them
Cheers
Jon
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Post# 25800-1/17/2003-02:39 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Another 1969 picture
MESSAGE: Frolic, I didn't know that word, except for being a main dog food brand overhere. Which brings us back to the picture again with 22 washers and a dog...
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Post# 25801-1/17/2003-02:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the noise level like on a toploader when spinning?
MESSAGE: We are talking about the American Hotpoints, but I presume morgjgriff was asking about the British Hotpoint toploaders (?).
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Post# 25802-1/17/2003-03:18 ||| kirk280980 (Lincoln UK)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the noise level like on a toploader when spinning?
MESSAGE: The British Hotpoint spun at 1050 rpm for starters, so it was a pretty fast mover compared to the imported agitator machines available now.
It's been a few years since I last used a Hotpoint TL, but I do remember the sound it made during the spin. Kind of like the vibration noise you get from a front loader, but instead of a high-pitched "jet engine" sound, you hear a low, throaty growl in the background instead.
Tops loaders don't slowly coast down after the spin either, they just come to an abrupt stop. The Hotpoint always gave two loud clicks, which I presume was due to the brake engaging suddenly.
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Post# 25803-1/17/2003-05:07 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the noise level like on a toploader when spinning?
MESSAGE: Thanks Kirk, you've answered my question to Mike. It sounds like those UK Hotpoint TL's have a vicious brake, so an apparently stuck pulley sounds like it might be normal. I will have to chase up that one in the recyclers in Melbourne, if it's still there.
Chris.
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Post# 25804-1/17/2003-06:21 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Is That ALL There Is?? (what?)
MESSAGE: We still have not seen the box Ariel here in our WalMarts. I have tried the bagged Ariel, and the suds level would vary between none and way too much. Can't get past the fragrance though........
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Post# 25805-1/17/2003-06:56 ||| kirk280980 (Lincoln UK)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the noise level like on a toploader when spinning?
MESSAGE: Chris -
Mike's knowledge of the Hotpoint TL is ten times better than mine (although I've used one and studied the service manual, I've never opened one up), so he'll probably be able to tell you for sure whether or not the pulley should lock up when the machine is inactive.
It's worth investigating if you get the chance. Should the machine still be there, and in working order, you'll really have a nifty piece of kit to add to the collection. And I'll be jealous LOL.
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Post# 25806-1/17/2003-08:27 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Is today's POD a rebadged Bendix like Imperial Bob's?
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Post# 25807-1/17/2003-08:36 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: SUDS LOCK (Suds lock)
MESSAGE: That won't work when there is no water in the machine and just suds between the inner and outer tub. You can tell in a FL that you have oversuds, but in a TL like my LK you can have not a bubble in the machine during the wash, but as soon as it drains and then spins, suds lock. So add the softener at the last minute? No thanks, then all my towels would have SCUD LOCK because I would have to do it to every load. Boy, I sure love that Second Rinse button! Bring on the water!
-ph
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Post# 25808-1/17/2003-09:45 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: SUDS LOCK (Suds lock - I rebuke you!)
MESSAGE: I guess yall need a little dose of "sudz-B-Gone"!
All this talk about detergent reminds me of the 1950's commercial for "AD".
"film free, dirt free, better rinsed wash, get a new kind of clean with AD"
On a side note, another domestic dryer with a window hits the market. Check out the new GE "Harmony" line of laundry equipment.
Getting ready to fire up the Fridgemore here in sunny Fort Lauderdale. TGIF yall!
-Alex
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Post# 25809-1/17/2003-10:58 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (AVCO)
MESSAGE: Yes, it is. I learned that myself by asking the same question just the last time this photo was used as the POD. It just seemed obvious to me by the shape of the lid, first, and second, the words Resiloy Flex a tub were a big hint. Who was saying that Bendix and Crosley were sister companys, under the bigger name AVCO...I notice it does say on my model tag, Bendix...a division of AVCO manufacturing company...they're the same company that made the metal kitchen cabinets with the forward lean drawers and lucite knobs that you may notice in many Bendix combo ads....we had those cabinets growing up....
BOB
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Post# 25810-1/17/2003-13:48 ||| morgjgriff (Wolverhampton, England)
SUBJECT: Dyson washing machines anybody?
MESSAGE: Has anyone had any experience with the new Dyson washing machines in Britain? Is the "Contrarotating" action as good as it's made out to be? What are they like on the spin cycle at 1400 rpm? Also, Dyson or Henry vacuum cleaners, which do you guys consider best?
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Post# 25811-1/17/2003-15:14 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Dyson washing machines anybody? (please ask in the Sandbox)
MESSAGE: Again, this site is for the 20+ year old classics. Questions about modern machines need to be made in the Sandbox. Click on the link below, sign up as a new member, and post there for the best answers from the best experts!
-ph
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/
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Post# 25812-1/17/2003-18:01 ||| jonob (New Zealand)
SUBJECT: RE: SUDS LOCK (Suds lock)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter
Interesting enough this has worked on many ocassions. A litre of water with the fabric softner added, poured into the machine has cleared it even though there has been no visiable water in the machine. I think the reaction between the added water and softner must be enough to help break down the oversudsing. Oversudsing is water and detergent aerated thru friction making the water become held in supension.
cheers
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Post# 25813-1/17/2003-20:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: SUDS LOCK (Suds lock - I rebuke you!)
MESSAGE: Hey Alex, glad someone else here remembers AD detergent. Yup, I remember a frog-eyed Kenmore from the late 50s with a waterfall filter couldn't even challenge AD's controlled suds and no suds lock!!!
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Post# 25814-1/17/2003-22:04 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Classic RCA Whirlpool Dishwasher on Ebay
MESSAGE: From the 60s...I saw one of these once. The timer dial looks like a telephone dial, and you set it by putting your finger in the hole, and "dialing" to the fingerstop. Looks to be in nice shape!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20715&item=2301565540
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Post# 25815-1/18/2003-09:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: January Owners Manual is Up!
MESSAGE: Thanks Robert - excellent work and a great machine!
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Post# 25816-1/18/2003-10:11 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: JAN OWN MAN
MESSAGE: Robert, thanks for the great manual. Those units w/d were quite stylish! But I do have question. Many of this vintage units required that the wash fill be controlled manually. But the balance of cycle was automatic. How was the rinse fill controlled? Did the machine just overflow to outer tub until that part of cycle ended? It would seem that water pressure could really effect the rinse performance.
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Post# 25817-1/18/2003-11:47 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic... (Imports!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris
Sounds like our type of machine all that cycle selecting and spinning the water out then sending it back in, looking forward to see if the UK model had the same feature, I say that because it doesnt mention anything in the write-ups and Which wouldnt have missed a feature like that , they`d probably have put it with the semi-autos!!!!
The Hotpoint does indeed have a clutch and brake lock on the machine which gives you quite a sound shock the first times you hear it, clutch is linked to the motor with reverse action by solenoid, anti-clockwise from the clutch to wash, clockwise to spin...hope its there for you, fab machine....is it the same innards as mine etc...see link
I know one of the reasons that so many imports from here ended up with yourselves , a lot of manufacturing companies like Pilks Glass etc from here asked for a lot of people to emigrate with the new factories etc...I know they paid favorable expenses and shipped complete house contents as part of the package etc....."We know it wasnt because you wash your clothes in your Ceeeeement Ponds like the Granny Clampet"...LOL
Cheers, Mike
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/chestermikeuk/vwp?.dir=/Hotpoint+Top+Loaders&.src=ph&.dnm=Rear+View.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/chestermikeuk/lst%3f%26.dir=/Hotpoint%2bTop%2bLoaders%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25818-1/18/2003-11:53 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic... (Hot Water!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
In a later report ther are a few new Westinghouse machines on the market, will have to dig those out for scanning...Was the Bendix Duomatic the one with the heated dryer and did they use the water heater to heat the drum and dry the clothes as the first washer dryers from Europe did???
I wonder if the way of heating the water in the outer tub was what made the Jetamatic so efficient according to the reports...the large circular element would have been very efficient in the narrow space between the two tubs...
Looks like its another one for the wishlist...FAB
Mike
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Post# 25819-1/18/2003-11:54 ||| JOESPLACE (col,oh)
SUBJECT: WANTED APPLIANCES SHIPPED TO LAGOS NIGERIA
MESSAGE: HELLO THERE
I HAVE BEEN GETTING NUMEROUS E-MAILS TRYING TO PURCHASE DIFFERNT APPLIANCES E-MAILS COMMING FROM NIGERIA
ANYONE HAVE ANY INFO ON SUBJECT GREATLY APPRECIATED
THANKS
JOE
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Post# 25820-1/18/2003-11:56 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the noise level like on a toploader when spinning?
MESSAGE: Hi Kirk
And what a noise they make when engaging spin and stopping with the brake, not for the faint hearted...
You captured the noise perfectly...LOL, lots about at the moment , one from a tenner in the vacinity, will check it out in case its an older control panel....
Cheers,Mike
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Post# 25821-1/18/2003-13:01 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Burrrrrrrrr
MESSAGE: Too cold to work outside on the machines this weekend, but I thought you might like to see some of the 'classics' lined up for repair.
Steve1-18
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_2001/slideshow?.dir=/Winter+2003&.view=t
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Post# 25822-1/18/2003-13:24 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Burrrrrrrrr (nice pics)
MESSAGE: I liked your pics Steve, we had a Hotpoint dryer like your avocado one when I was a kid.....best of luck with them...
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Post# 25823-1/18/2003-14:01 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Happy 1-18!!!
MESSAGE: Today's 1-18-2003. Todd, we should've had the washin today. Everyone wash in their 1-18s today!
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Post# 25824-1/18/2003-14:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Neutral drain vs spin drain
MESSAGE: In the old days of solid tub washers, you HAD to have a spinning tub to throw the water over (except Blackstone), but in perforated tub washers, why bother? It seems that trying to spin a tub full of clothes through an outer tub full of water would put a strain on the motor. The Kenmore/Whirlpools would neutral drain and then almost effortlessly start a spin cycle without the clutch or belt slipping like crazy while the motor is trying to pump water and spin a tub full of clothes at the same time.
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Post# 25825-1/18/2003-14:49 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Burrrrrrrrr ( Burrrrrrrrr)
MESSAGE: Hi Steve
It's freezing up here in NY also. In fact I don't even feel like going out. But what a great set of pics.
Peter
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Post# 25826-1/18/2003-15:05 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain
MESSAGE: If I can recall, GE, Hotpoint, Maytag and Frigidaire spin drain through their peforated baskets and it's consider as turbo rinse action where dirty water does not resettle back onto clothes. Out of the three, the maytag and Frigidaire was the most effective because the washer switch from agitation to spin in only a few seconds while GE/Hotpoint took a full 30-60 seconds to make the change.
Now for those Kenmore/Whirlpool machines with the neutral drain, the washer would take close to 2 minuets to completely drain and an extra two minuets completely strain the clothes from excessive water that one rinse would be enough!?!?
But here's the downfall as for the Kenmore/Whirlpool rinse segment of the timer: ONLY 2 MINUETS for the DEEP RINSE???
Every other MFG had 4 minuets of deep rinsing in the normal cycle, why not Kenmore/Whirlpool?
And for years this had troubled me until I got the DD and they made the changes as the other MFG had done years ago: 2 minuet drain, 4 minuet deep rinse, 2 minuet drain, 6 minuets spin on the normal cycle.
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Post# 25827-1/18/2003-15:14 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain
MESSAGE: Oh BTW, the DD has a tendency to Turbo Rinse if I don't start the first load on the Heavy Duty Cycle. I don't mind it clunking when it switching gears, it just sounds like an GE when braking but doing the opposite, going into the spin cycle! HEHEHE.....
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Post# 25828-1/18/2003-15:18 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: January Owners Manual is Up! (January Owners Manual)
MESSAGE: Thanks - This is a great manual
Peter
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Post# 25829-1/18/2003-15:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: UK Frigidaire Jetamatic... (Hot Water!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike--
My '55 Duomatic has two heaters, one for the Magic Heater that only was used when Hot wash was selected, only during the washing time after the fill. The second heater was outside the drum and only used during drying. There is a fan that circulates the air through the condensing tube, over the heater and into the drum.
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Post# 25830-1/18/2003-15:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain
MESSAGE: Maytags typically only had a two minute deep rinse agitation, some later Maytag models had as little as 1:30 and 1:45!
I actually prefer a spin-drain to neutral in any machine. The problem with the neutral draining (IMHO) is that it is literally using the clothes as a filter to strain the wash (and rinse) water out of the tub like a drip coffee maker and I don't care for that. The other advantage to spinning the tub while draining is that is forces the clothes higher and more spread out on the sides of the basket, making the spray rinse much more effective.
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Post# 25831-1/18/2003-15:52 ||| Bill-MO (Brookline Station, MO)
SUBJECT: RE: Burrrrrrrrr (really nice pics)
MESSAGE: I agree, it has been too cold outside to do much of anything...wish my Mum still had her GE with the Mini-Basket, they were fun to watch. Can't wait to see your machines up and running once the weather warms up. As for me, I figured I'd stay inside and rewatch my 1952 Westinghouse appliance video that I got on eBay last week. Strange video with all the appliances talking in familiar voices, like Lucille Ball as Lena the Laundromat (I'm still wondering if the machine offered an optional "henna rinse" cycle...LOL!).
Hope everyone is keeping warm and toasty these days, and wishing spring will finally get here.
Bill
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Post# 25832-1/18/2003-15:57 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain
MESSAGE: WP & KM machines still had a clutch, that motor wouldn't have been able to pick up a basket full of wet clothes and spin them instantly - even if the target spin speed was a blistering 525 rpm ;-)
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Post# 25833-1/18/2003-16:01 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Burrrrrrrrr ( Burrrrrrrrr)
MESSAGE: Was down at to least 29° last night, maybe a bit lower. Love the cold weather -- charges me up!
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Post# 25834-1/18/2003-16:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Burrrrrrrrr
MESSAGE: Fun pics Steve - are you rebuilding the Maytags for charity? You do seem to find some nice stuff at your regular haunts! How is that Maytag 806 you found a while back?
Hugs to you both - Greg
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Post# 25835-1/18/2003-18:13 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Burrrrrrrrr ( Burrrrrrrrr)
MESSAGE: Freezing indeed!! That would be a relief. It hasn't been above 6 degrees all day here in Connecticut. Bitter, bitter weather. No hanging sheets on the line today, that's for sure!!
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Post# 25836-1/18/2003-18:21 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!!
MESSAGE: You're right, Jason, this should have been the day for our wash-in. So, I'll throw a load into the 1-18 tonight in your honor. That's called pulsating by proxy! haha
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Post# 25837-1/18/2003-18:29 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (why)
MESSAGE: As a solid tub machine why would Blackstone not need to spin to drain?Also,was this brand considered a premium brand?I always heard it was,but there was not a retailer near my small town growing up so I dont have much knowledge.What happened to Blackstone?
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Post# 25838-1/18/2003-20:21 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: Open Request to Eddy
MESSAGE: HI Eddy:
How are things in the great north?? My friend Foraloysius has tuned me into something new and I was wondering if you could shed alittle light on it?
Have you seen a new top loader in Canada recently? By LG called the PUNCH+3 System??? GE is introducing a new laundry pair this spring---here is the press blurb I found:
" Another reliable source indicates that LG Electronics of Korea (formerly Goldstar), under a business agreement with GE, is supplying new laundry and refrigeration products to GE. LG Electronics has been the known source of GE’s OTR and countertop microwave ovens for several years. Could the Harmony pair be part of this business arrangement? Given the outward description and advanced electronicsof the products, the answer appears to be yes. Some LG top-loaders (sold in Canada) have bowed tops with similar advanced electronics as well.
The LG brand top-loaders employ what is referred to as the Punch+3 wash system. According to service materials, this consists of a low-profile pulsator with a “punch” (the center activator, which employs an up and down wash action) plus three surrounding mini-pulsators located on the wash basket base. Although it is entirely possible that the Harmony will be different from other LG models and have no pulsator or other moving parts within the wash basket, it’s also possible that it will be identical. Given that Harmony was described only after viewing photos and that an actual physical model wasn’t available to inspect, one can wonder how far away an actual model was — perhaps Korea?
The “fuzzy logic” control system employed by LG top-loaders currently sold in Canada is similar to the electronic control system in the Harmony. "
Let us know out here in appliance land if you have seen anything remotely like this?? Thanks! Enjoy your greenery while we sit here in stasis at 4 degrees F in Boston!!
cheers Jetcone
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Post# 25839-1/18/2003-20:34 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (Blackstone)
MESSAGE: As I recall, early Blackstone machines drained through a hole beneath the agitator. A mechanism lifted the tub to open the drain "port." Of course, I suppose the extracted water went over the side of the tub during the actual spin.
Blackstone went out of business shortly after 1974. Here are some pics of the 1974 models.
Model 902 Washer
Model 902 Washer Features
Model 902 Washer Specifications
Model 802 Dryer
Model 802 Dryer Features & Specifications
1974 Laundry Line
1974 Laundry Features
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Post# 25840-1/18/2003-20:46 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: Found It -- Ariel in a bag!
MESSAGE: At a local grocery that I usually don't use. Seems to be the true Mexican variety -- all the copy on the bag is in Spanish except three little sections in English -- usage instructions, poison control, and ingredients. The listed telephone numbers for consumer questions are: Mexico, Columbia, Venezuela, Guatemala, and Costa Rica. And it says
visite: www.universidaddelhogar.com
www.sra-robles.com
The scent seems identical to Ariel-in-a-box from Wal-Mart. It is (or should be) low-sudsing -- one of the listed ingredients is "suds supressor."
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Post# 25841-1/18/2003-20:53 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (Blackstone)
MESSAGE: Hi Glen,
I hope you are doing well. I remember the blackstones that were sold at a lumber yard in upstate NY. Strange I never saw them in any appliance store in NY. The ones I saw were in the late 60's with a solid tub that was ss and a rear opening lid. One thing I don't understand is why were the dryer doors so long? They seem like interesting machines.
Peter
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Post# 25842-1/18/2003-21:36 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (Blackstone)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the Blackstone info-the 74 models were good looking machines.
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Post# 25843-1/18/2003-21:47 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain
MESSAGE: That brings up an age old question for me greg, wp/km's have 1/2 hp motors, yet the spin drainers have smaller motors, how come that wp motor wouldn't be able to pick up a full basket of water and clothes and spin them up? Did i totally miss understand your post =)
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Post# 25844-1/18/2003-21:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (Blackstone)
MESSAGE: Too bad they went out of business right after their 100th anniversary. I wonder if they were still manufacturing their own machines at this time, or if they were made by someone else. Do we know whether these last models have solid tubs?
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Post# 25845-1/18/2003-21:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Burrrrrrrrr ( Burrrrrrrrr)
MESSAGE: It was down to 26 here last nite. The nite before, 24. Oh well, using extra blankets on the bed. More laundry to do later. YAY.
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Post# 25846-1/18/2003-21:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Burrrrrrrrr
MESSAGE: Terrific pics. I love Big Mama. Full-featured woman there!!! I believe that the Maytag with the white buttons is older than the one with the dark buttons. As for the GE, I actually don't know what the cycle sequence is for the Extra Cleaning Cycles. It MAY have an automatic second rinse built into it. That was a pretty high-up-in-the-line machine in its day with the 3-speed combos.
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Post# 25847-1/18/2003-22:03 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (Blackstone)
MESSAGE: Hi
I am the one who asked the origional Blackstone question
someone answered mine,and I can answer yours!In the late 70s I was in a laundromat in Indiana-it had Blackstone machines,and they were perforated tub machines.I actually used them-good washing action,but with the curved vanes most of the clothes movement was around and around-like an indexing tub WCI-rather than rollover.
Tom
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Post# 25848-1/18/2003-22:38 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (Blackstone)
MESSAGE: That is sad that Blackstone went "belly up" soo shortly after their 100 year anniversary. Does anyone know what the fatal error was that spelled their demise?
-Alex
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Post# 25849-1/18/2003-23:04 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain
MESSAGE: Actually, they could, if one knew how to be a dial-pusher with them.
I suppose one would have to ask the original engineers why Whirlpool always went with a neutral-drain, at least until the Design 2000. I do know they used it in advertising, touting the "free-flow" draining as a desirable feature against machines that did a spin-drain (more wear/tear on the mechanism, harder to control a full tub of water, etc.)
Belt drive machines, at least from the 1960s on (don't know about earlier machines), had the spin solenoid wired through the water level switch. The machine would not spin until the water level reset, which of course it always did during a full neutral drain. If the timer was set directly to spin, the machine would neutral drain until the pressure switch reset, then kick into spin for a moment until the water rose up and triggered the pressure switch again and go back to neutral drain. The drain/spin/drain/spin sequence would repeat until enough water was drained so as to not trigger the pressure switch during spin.
The first belt-drive electronic-control model (with which I had a bit of personal contact) instructed to use the Spin-Only option to drain/cancel a cycle, and advised the user not to be alarmed at the drain/spin/drain/spin situation. Since this was intended, I'm sure the clutch was designed to handle the load at least occasionally.
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Post# 25850-1/18/2003-23:06 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (Blackstone)
MESSAGE: I should note that the pictures are courtesy of Robert/Unimatic1140.
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Post# 25851-1/19/2003-00:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (Blackstone)
MESSAGE: Interesting, thanks!
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Post# 25852-1/19/2003-00:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Burrrrrrrrr
MESSAGE: Of course I forget now if the buttons were light or dark (though I think you are right that the white ones are older) I saw today at an estate sale, a set of the later style Maytags like the ones in Steve's picture, in harvest gold! I know they didn't change to this design from the old dial in the middle type until 1980 or 81, so apparently harvest gold did survive into the 80s, at least with certain manufacturers.
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Post# 25853-1/19/2003-00:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain
MESSAGE: It really isn't the size of the motor, it's just the design of the machine itself. The WP/KM machines could very well spin out the water if they wanted them to, it's really the clutch mechanisms that allows for the spinning to start in the first place, tub full of water or not. GE has now adopted the neutral drain principle as well for various reasons. Every brand of machine accomplished the same laundering task in a different way and had their own theories of good and bad designs, this is part of what makes them all so interesting.
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Post# 25854-1/19/2003-00:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Burrrrrrrrr
MESSAGE: Scott, yes Harvest Gold survived into the 80s. When my first house was built in July, 1980, every builder in the developmehnt was touting almond as the hot color. White & harvest gold werre also options to outfit the kitchen appliances with. The brands in the builders offering were GE, Kenmore, and Gaffers & Sattler. In fact, that GE washer steve 1-18 showed us today, in harvest gold, is about a 1984 or later machine. Note, the push buttons for the speeds and they were "chrome" in color. Not the previous toggle switches. Some neighbors moved here in 1988 or 1989, had that style of GE washer, which they'd bought when they were married 5 years earlier.
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Post# 25855-1/19/2003-04:59 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: January Owners Manual is Up! (Thriftivator)
MESSAGE: I second that, thank you Robert!
I love this one! "Dear Mrs Homemaker"! How typical for that time. And it has a "Thriftivator"!!!! I learned a lot here about agitator names, but this one is new to me.
I love it!
Louis
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Post# 25856-1/19/2003-05:19 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Burrrrrrrrr
MESSAGE: Hey Steve,
Thanks for sharing your pictures with us. There is quite some work left there. Say hello to Rhinnie,
Greetz,
Louis
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Post# 25857-1/19/2003-05:31 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (Blackstone)
MESSAGE: Thanks for posting them, they are quite impressive machines.
Louis
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Post# 25858-1/19/2003-08:23 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: Repair of 20 year old Kenmore.
MESSAGE: A Friend of mine had a Kenmore that was 20 years old and seemed to be running fine. I was talking to her and she said her machine would wash rinse and drain but not spin. Last night she told me she got a new Kitchen-Aid washer as the Kenmore was not worth reparing. Can anyone tell me what would have caused the spinning to stop and if it could have been repaired? Thank's
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Post# 25859-1/19/2003-08:54 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (Blackstone)
MESSAGE: The tub in the 50s Blackstone lifted up and the water just fell to the outer tub. Then it would spin the clothes.
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Post# 25860-1/19/2003-09:01 ||| jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (Blackstone In Business)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott:
The last Blackstone models had solid smooth tubs just like the speed queen machines. A large black bakelite agitator with vertical vanes. BY the mid 60's there was no more neutral drain,everything went out over the top. Blackstone is still in business in Buffalo, they switched from making home laundry to Truck Radiators. I spoke with "Tony" at the factory about 13 years ago and was able to get the very last part available for my 350! ( 1955 machine with neutral drain)
The neutral drain on my 350 is not anything like the WP/KM machines. When that tub lifts up to reveal the drain holes, the outer tub takes all the wash water out at once in a fraction of a minute just like the Frigidaire does up over the sides, whereas if you have watched a WP it slowly sucks the water out of the two inner and outer tubs at the same time. I have often told John-- WP would make lovely drip coffee Blackstones & Frigidaires would not!!!
jet
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Post# 25861-1/19/2003-09:09 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Repair of 20 year old Kenmore.
MESSAGE: I'm assuming her Kenmore, being 20 years old, was mostl likely a belt-driven rather than direct drive. It could be a number of things. A faulty clutch or even a short in the timer.
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Post# 25862-1/19/2003-09:21 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: RE: Repair of 20 year old Kenmore.
MESSAGE: Yes it was belt driven and had somthing to do with the clutch.Can a clutch be repaired or replaced and do they last?
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Post# 25863-1/19/2003-09:25 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (Blackstone In Business)
MESSAGE: Anyway, I know some people may think WP/KM is boring because of the neutral drain, it's still my favorite brand. neutral drain or not.
I just wanted to know what the advantages/disadvantages of neutral drain vs. spin.
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Post# 25864-1/19/2003-09:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Repair of 20 year old Kenmore.
MESSAGE: Parts are still available for belt drives. Also, the spin solenoid might not be engaging. If you hear it go "grind-click-clunk", the solenoid is activating, it might be the clutch or belt. If it tries to click or doesn't, might be the solenoid or timer. Just a few tries there.
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Post# 25865-1/19/2003-09:41 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: old top loading dishwashers
MESSAGE: I am interestedin the old top loading dishwashers, have had 2 . the oldest was a Mobile Maid GE pink inside . Great machine , Looking for different makes & models. Building a new breakfast bar & would to find one to add to it. I found they worked great , noisy but just love them . Mike
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Post# 25866-1/19/2003-10:42 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (Blackstone In Business)
MESSAGE: Very cool, thanks Jet! Yet another very interesting variation in washer operation!
Interesting that they should start making truck radiators, when there were so many washer/appliance brands that were somehow attached to automobile type stuff (GM, American Motors, Borg Warner, etc).
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Post# 25867-1/19/2003-12:28 ||| kirk280980 (Lincoln UK)
SUBJECT: RE: What is the noise level like on a toploader when spinning?
MESSAGE: Hello Mike -
The agitation noise is to die for as well - a combination of rumbling and sloshing, so even with the lid shut, you just KNOW there's a whole load of water action going on in there!
Hopefully the machine you're going to check out will have the timeline-style control panel, as I seem to remember you've been waiting for one of those to come your way. Never seen one myself, just the programmed machines with a single dial, so I shall keep my fingers crossed for you :o)
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Post# 25868-1/19/2003-12:59 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Repair of 20 year old Kenmore.
MESSAGE: Shawn, it could be 2 things that can go wrong.
1. The wigwag may be worn/broken
2. or the lead wire from the lid switch to the wigwag is broken.
Otherwise it's repairable!
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Post# 25869-1/19/2003-15:15 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: vintage Brewmatic coffee appliance need help
MESSAGE: I have a Brewmatic coffee machine apx,30-35 yrs old. Model #1030526 This is a built in water suply unit . The heater tests ok so I suspect the thermister is bad. If anyone can be of any help I would greatly appreciate it. Brewmatic is only interested in selling me a new machine but I prefer the old finer things in life. Hoping to use it as a everyday appliance .If anyone can at least point me in the right direction I would be very much appreciative. Thanks for your time & considerations Michael mikepaquette@hotmail.com
LINK: http://mikepaquette@hotmail.com
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Post# 25870-1/19/2003-15:21 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: top load dishwashers
MESSAGE: I am looking for a top load dishwasher I love the old appliances & hope to add a top loader to my breakfast bar. They do not make things like they used to . I can repair most dishwashers if parts are avaliable. Michael mikepaquette@hotmail.com
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Post# 25871-1/19/2003-16:26 ||| eddy1210 (Vancouver, B.C. Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Open Request to Eddy
MESSAGE: Hi Jon, things are fine up here in the great WET north! We're just a degree above freezing with mostly rain here on the coast. You know what? I have seen those LG's here and I saw one 2 weeks ago at the Future Shop. I was impressed although I didn't examine the mechanism too closely. I didn't realize the central post (which to me looked quite small) pulsated! The s/s tub was the biggest I've seen for a compact machine. Next time I'm there I'll take some pictures and post them.
Eddy
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Post# 25872-1/19/2003-19:17 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (new additions, pics to come soon!!)
MESSAGE: I did three loads in my new 1/18 today, and I was lucky enough to get a '58 or '59 Maytag with the lighted, glass console (needs work) and a mid-sixties Whirlpool, all fixed up with new pump, motor and tranny.
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Post# 25873-1/19/2003-19:34 ||| Afutch (Richmond)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Flair Electric Range Repair Help
MESSAGE: Hi. Does anyone know if it is still possible to obtain service on an old Frigidaire Flair Electric Range (Model #RCIB-645-2). I was cooking tonight and the receptacle at the back of the oven blew. I think I may have gotten some water on it when I was cleaning the oven earlier in the day. The lower oven unit doesn't appear to have been damaged. And, the broiler still works. I'd hate not to be able to have this fixed. I love my oven!
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Post# 25874-1/19/2003-19:44 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: SUNDAYS WASH
MESSAGE: Hi All
Did a load in my Blackstone for everyone today. Take a peek at heavy stainless steel in action!!
jet
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/jetcone/lst?.dir=/Sunday+Wash&.view=t
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Post# 25875-1/19/2003-19:45 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (new additions, pics to come soon!!)
MESSAGE: YAY! Enjoy your new machines!!
jet
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Post# 25876-1/19/2003-20:34 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: SUNDAYS WASH (SUNDAYS WASH)
MESSAGE: Hi Jon,
I realy love the pics. I never saw a blackstone in action but it looks interesting. Doesen't look as exciting as a Kelvi or Frig but I hope I get to check one out some time. I hope you are doing well.
Peter
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Post# 25877-1/19/2003-20:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: SUNDAYS WASH
MESSAGE: Jon, thanks for the pics. The vision of the Blackstone was a major treat and a pleasant sight to the eyes. I too had Sunday wash to do, but I didn't. Just couldn't get excited about doing the minimum of 6 loads I should have done. It now means I'll ahve to do them tomorrow night. Some day I'll have my front loader and life will be exciting again for laundry. It's just so utilitarian with a shredmore.
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Post# 25878-1/19/2003-21:03 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (new additions, pics to come soon!!)
MESSAGE: That's wonderful Greg! They all sound like great machines! Is the 1-18 your first Frigidaire? Do you know what year it is? What color? Enjoy! :)
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Post# 25879-1/19/2003-21:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: SUNDAYS WASH
MESSAGE: Jet, you are so funny! :) I enjoyed your pictures, thanks!
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Post# 25880-1/19/2003-21:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (Kenmore Dreaming...)
MESSAGE: Believe it or not Jason, in 1981 when my mother replaced the '72 GE I'd grown up with, I "scolded" her for buying the bottom of the line Maytag washer when for the same money she could have gotten a large capacity, 2 speed Kenmore with my favorite Penta-Swirl agitator! I had to wait until 10 years later when I had my own place to get my penta-swirl washer - I traded a local dealer for a WCI Kelvinator that was left in the first condo I bought. I was thrilled to finally have that washer!
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Post# 25881-1/19/2003-21:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: SUNDAYS WASH
MESSAGE: Very cool pictures - that Blackstone looks like so much fun to see. I'm waiting to do the "weekend" washing until tomorrow night after my water softener is installed. Keep an eye on the news for a bubble cake that engulfs the entire city!!
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Post# 25882-1/19/2003-21:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (new additions, pics to come soon!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg - is your Maytag an AMP style machine? Do you know the model number? Sounds like you have some great new finds, can't wait to see the pictures!
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Post# 25883-1/19/2003-23:22 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: SUNDAYS WASH (Great Pictures.)
MESSAGE: Hi Jon, I really enjoyed the pictures. That Blackstone looks like a really neat machine. Is it quiet, just looks like it would be? How is the GE combo coming along? Terry
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Post# 25884-1/19/2003-23:45 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: January Owners Manual is Up!
MESSAGE: I havent been able to open any of the manuals of the month. I can open other Adobe PDF documents from other sits but the ones I want to open the most i cant!!
Does anyone have any suggestions that can help me?
Thanx.
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Post# 25885-1/20/2003-02:20 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: SUNDAYS WASH (Great Pictures.)
MESSAGE: Thanks Terry! I just finished the Avocado Combo and took some restoration pix today. The machine came out better than even I hoped for, will put up some of the pix soon!
-jet
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Post# 25886-1/20/2003-02:22 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: SUNDAYS WASH (SUNDAYS WASH)
MESSAGE: Thank you Peter, you will have to come try it in person sometime.
How is your combo running these days?
jet
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Post# 25887-1/20/2003-02:48 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: SUNDAYS WASH
MESSAGE: Wow, nice retro pictures! That big thing in the 1-18, is that a softener dispenser? It's huge!
Louis
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Post# 25888-1/20/2003-05:25 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: January Owners Manual is Up! (Fastest page loading Adobe.....)
MESSAGE: Try downloading the latest Adobe Reader (PDF 5.01)
The new Adobe Reader is awesome, fantastic and fabulous!
LINK: http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep2.html
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Post# 25889-1/20/2003-06:36 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain
MESSAGE: Hi Greg.
Funny you should say that about neutral draining straining the water through the clothes. Hoover said the exact opposite over here.
The Hoover 500 series used to spin the clothes whilst pumping out, and had a perforated basket. (I believe it is based on a 70's Blackstone design, the Blackstone dryer in your photos looks like a pair to the Hoover 500 over here, though Hoover never sold a full size dryer over here.) Its replacement the 600 series was essentially the same machine but had a neutral drain, controlled by a pressure switch in the outlet hose. When there was water in the outlet hose the pressure switch mechanically (not electrically) applied a brake to the transmission. As the last of the water was pumped out the brake would release and it would spin. The 700 series, which my partner had when I met him, was still basically the same machine, but with a seperate electric pump. The pressure switch was gone, instead it pumped out for one timer increment before spinning. (The 800 and 900 series were cheapened versions of the same machine, quality went downhill fast after Maytag took over.) Anyway to the point... When Hoover 600 came out, Hoover advertised that by pausing to pump out the dirty water before spinning, the dirt was pumped away rather than being forced out through the clothes, as their rival Simpson did. Simpson eventually changed to a neutral drain, and interestingly with that change their constant problem of getting off balance disappeared. Hoover's wording said something like "you wouldn't strain dirty water through your newly washes clothes, so why would you buy a washing machine that does that?" or words to that effect.
I make no claim as to who is right or wrong...
Best Wishes
Chris.
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Post# 25890-1/20/2003-07:05 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: SUNDAYS WASH (Sure is)
MESSAGE: You guessed it Louis! It sure is a fabric softener. It really hits the eye bobbing up and down at 330strokes/min! And you can be sure your softener is well mixed with the water before it hits the clothes.
jet
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Post# 25891-1/20/2003-07:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain
MESSAGE: Hi Chris- We had similar advertising over here between the two methods of draining and I'm sure there were plenty of studies in each of the brand's engineering departments as to which was better. Maytag maintained the benefits of "swirl-away draining" since the very beginning of their automatic washer lines. All in all, it probably just comes down to personal preference of the user - if the user gives it any thought to it at all, I suspect the majority of consumers don't even know what their machine does after the lid is closed!
Interesting brake method on the older Hoover 600 machines, did this mark the end of the "Blackstone cousin" for Hoover?
Cheers - Greg
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Post# 25892-1/20/2003-08:58 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: JON CHARLES -MAKING IT UP AS YOU GO ALONG - SUNDAY WASH
MESSAGE: SUCKULATOR - is that a real word used by Blackstone? - cause it really sounds like something the host is likely to do....If this is a real term used by Blackstone, let me know...otherwise....let's not use words 'made up as you go along', since some people here are trying to learn from reality, and not live in a fantasy world of play pretend names.
Also, it is OBVIOUS that the shot labeled BLACKSTONE SPIN.GIF is NOT a factory photo from the 1940's, as is indicated. It's the same machine as in the other photos, and you can tell this by the pattern of the water spots on the lid. How dumb do we look, Jon?
Let's try to just stick to the facts, please, and not make them up as we go along.
Neat machine. Suckulator - I don't think so. Neither is scrubulicious, or screwulator. Checking in the Blackstone manual, I know this is so. But you did fail to mention the AUTOTROL - mechanical mind of the Blackstone, and the feature that makes it MOST unique....no timer - all cams. Oh, let's make up a new word for that too - like SHIFTOLATOR. See how silly this is?
We're not holding Kindergarten here where we need to make up silly names.
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Post# 25893-1/20/2003-12:05 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: SUNDAYS WASH
MESSAGE: Fun pics! I've always thought that Blackstone is a handsome machine.
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Post# 25894-1/20/2003-12:18 ||| frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Sunday's Wash
MESSAGE: WHAT?! There's no such thing as a suckulator? I haven't felt this cheated since I found out Babycham wasn't made from real babies. Great pics of a beautiful machine, Jon!
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Post# 25895-1/20/2003-12:46 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (thnx)
MESSAGE: thanks Scott, it is my first 1/18, its white and I believe it is 1970, it works great, and is in remarkably good condition, i love it.........
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Post# 25896-1/20/2003-12:48 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (new additions, pics to come soon!!AMP?)
MESSAGE: what does AMP mean? Its a cool looking machine, white, glass console, lighted, (love that)........needs some work, I forget the model # but I will find out and should have pics out here in a little over a month from now..........
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Post# 25897-1/20/2003-12:50 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: Jon's avocado combo
MESSAGE: I saw it last Friday and the thing is MINT !!! and whisper quiet.........
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Post# 25898-1/20/2003-13:30 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (thnx)
MESSAGE: Cool Greg, the first year of the 1-18! I will look forward to your pictures down the road.
An AMP is a Maytag automatic made before 1957 or 58. It has a perforated liner solid tub and a different transmission than the later models (someone here will know far more about this than me). There is a water level dial on the inside of the lid, and a float in the middle of the agitator that rises up to strike a switch that controls the fill/water level. If yours has a lint filter in the agitator or the wringer washer style agitator and you set the water level on the control panel, then you have a perforated tub "helical drive" washer. The outer appearance of the last of the AMPs and the first helical drives is very similar.
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Post# 25899-1/20/2003-13:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (new additions, pics to come soon!!AMP?)
MESSAGE: AMP is the model designation of the very first 1949 Maytag automatic washer (Automatic Maytag w/Pump - AMP) and we usually refer to that design as such although that same design was used through the late 50's. It was actually a solid tub washer with a perforated liner. You'll recognize these machines by the bolts inside the wash basket and the float type water level switch and selector dial under the lid. In 1956 Maytag developed the helical drive mechanism which was a true perforated basket washer that remained virtually the same for 33 years.
Here is a picture of the AMP-style '57 that I had, now in Steve 1-18's collection in Georgia. While probably not the "clinical" factory designation for this design, it is generally accepted that AMP refers to a particular era of Maytags. ;-)
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Maytag&.src=ph&.dnm=57+AMP+lid.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Maytag%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25900-1/20/2003-16:06 ||| Laundrotwins (Grand Ledge Michigan)
SUBJECT: Desperately Seeking Westinghouse Twins!!!!
MESSAGE: Everyone,
I am searching like mad looking for a set of "Original" Before "White" Westinghouse Laundromat's. I don't really care what age or how new or what model as long as it's in working clean condition and not from a dump. I would be happy with a Laundromat from the 60's and even happier for a matching set with dryer. I am earmarking a large portion of taxes this year to find my Westinghouse laundromat set. Hopefully it is in the Michigan, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois area but if the right stuff pops up I will travel. Please everyone help me find some twins of my own... thanks Chad
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Post# 25901-1/20/2003-16:53 ||| petepdx (Portland Oregon USA)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Flair Range/Oven
MESSAGE: I'm going to start a web site dedicated to this wonder of the kitchen, and wonder what people would like to see. I know one
for me is online owners and service manuals.
it will be FrigidaireFlair.com
Other ideas ?
-pete
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Post# 25902-1/20/2003-17:42 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: SUNDAYS WASH (Thanks Jon!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the pictures of your washday!
You have such nice machines!
Take some pictures of your combo!
I have heard that the GE combo's are very cool to use! You have two now???
Brent
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Post# 25903-1/20/2003-17:44 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (Wow!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
You amaze me with all that you are finding!
Where did you get your 1-18? Sounds very nice!
Are you keeping this in your home for your use?
What are you using for your dryer?
Can't wait to see the pictures.
Brent
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Post# 25904-1/20/2003-17:46 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: JON CHARLES -MAKING IT UP AS YOU GO ALONG - SUNDAY WASH (???)
MESSAGE: ???
Brent
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Post# 25905-1/20/2003-19:08 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini
MESSAGE: Hi All, Motoring west, from Ohio to Calif. Stopped to see Marty at Appliance Express in Phoenix. Bought a coppertone Frigidaire Skinny Mini with the Agi-tub. Very nice condition.....am currently in Long Beach, going to Palm Springs this Wed. Will pick up the Skinny Mini on the way back thru Phoenix on the trip home. He also had a 1963 AQUA Hotpoint Sillohette, might get that too is there is room in the van...will be back in Ohio about the middle of Feb......dont always have computer access on the road and I miss you all..........
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Post# 25906-1/20/2003-19:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini
MESSAGE: Appliance Express is a fun place Jimmy! I have been there! I have seen the turquoise Silhouette Hotpoint you are talking about!
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Post# 25907-1/20/2003-20:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (the Land of NO rust)
MESSAGE: New Orleans, LA must be Appliance Hell but Phoenix, AZ is appliance Heaven. There's no humidity so everything is preserved. The luckiest of the appliances get to retire there and wait to be rescued.
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Post# 25908-1/20/2003-20:46 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: Phoenix Appliance Junkyard
MESSAGE: Hey Greg, I forgot to mention that there was no GE Dispenall at Appliance Express. There WAS one last year, so I guess it bit the dust, so to speak.
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Post# 25909-1/20/2003-20:49 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (the Land of NO rust)
MESSAGE: There certainly is no rust in AZ, at least not as we know it, but the appliances are far far from being preserved. A couple of summers outside in the hot sun, and the control panels disintegrate and most of the rubber and plastic crumbles away to nothing. I didnt buy the Hotpoint aqua washer yet for that reason, almost all the plastic on the control panel is warped and faded to oblivion..........
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Post# 25910-1/20/2003-21:16 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (the Land of NO rust)
MESSAGE: Seems there's always some aspect of the environment to spoil the preservation. :-(
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Post# 25911-1/20/2003-22:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini
MESSAGE: Jimmy, terrific on finding the SkinnyMini. And, if you can, squeeze that Hotpoint in the van too. Although, I'm gonna be sitting on the edge of my seat for almost a month waiting to hear what else you find along the way!!!! Bob
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Post# 25912-1/20/2003-23:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (the Land of NO rust)
MESSAGE: Jimmy, I'd already thought of this scenario while not even finishing up Jasonl's post. I knew the heat would get them!!!
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Post# 25913-1/21/2003-06:32 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
I don't think Blackstone was ever sold here ( I had never heard of it before joining this group) and Hoover never acknowleged any Blackstone connection. It is just from seeing the later Blackstone pix on this site (Thanks Robert) including diagrams of the transmission that I have concluded the Hoover large TL's were based on Blackstone designs. Even from the beginning there would have been major differences, the styling would have been 'plainer' on Hoovers than Blackstones, and generic Australian made components such as motors, switches and inlet valves would have been incorporated, and would have been somewhat diferent to US equivalents. Also seeing your Blackstone dryer pic was like looking at the Hoover dryer that never existed, so similar was it to Aust Hoover 500 TL washers. So the changes to 600 & 700 series were more of an evolution of a model, not really a swing away from a Blackstone design.
Aussie Hoover front loaders did the same thing - the 455 was fully imported from UK (Wales), the 460 was a simplified version of the same machine put into local assembly, subsequent versions (470, 480, 490, 510, 540) were incremental changes to use more locally sourced components, adapt the machine to suit Australian rather than UK tastes, to cut costs and improve reliability.
Chris
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Post# 25914-1/21/2003-07:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (the Land of NO rust)
MESSAGE: Hi Jimmy - Glad you are moving along your journey and having a good time, that appliance yard looks like a lot of fun. Congrats on the Skinny-Mini too! Thanks for checking on the Dispensall, I can only imagine what the plastic parts would have looked like after years in the desert sun. Enjoy your trip and drive safely! Greg
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Post# 25915-1/21/2003-07:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Neutral drain vs spin drain (Hoover Automatics)
MESSAGE: We had Hoover automatics made by Blackstone here for a very short time in the early 70's but I don't know of anyone that has one in the club. I saw one of the dryers at a store in Iowa last summer (link is the picture) but have yet to see any true Blackstone in this part of the country. More machines for the wish list!
Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/June+2002+Iowa+Hunting&.src=ph&.dnm=Hoover+Dryer.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/June%2b2002%2bIowa%2bHunting%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25916-1/21/2003-07:39 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (new additions, pics to come soon!!AMP?)
MESSAGE: Its a helical drive trans, perforated basket, lint filter in the agitator, I believe its a '59. It is not like the one in your pic Greg. I wonder what size load (how many lbs.?) this washer was rated for whereas the basket is rather small like alot of the older machines........
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Post# 25917-1/21/2003-08:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (new additions, pics to come soon!!AMP?)
MESSAGE: Greg - what great finds, both the Maytag and 1-18. I am curious though - how and where did you ever find a 1-18 in your area? Around here, they are almost non existent in any condition and absolutely non existent in good to mint condition.........
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Post# 25918-1/21/2003-09:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: POD 1/21/03
MESSAGE: This Philco is a dream machine for me. Too bad the ones at the Farm were so banged up. I really want a FLAPILATOR washer!
-ph
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Post# 25919-1/21/2003-09:59 ||| Ironrite (Las Vegas NV)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (Other Phoenix Places)
MESSAGE: On your return trip through Phoenix, if you have the time, check out a store called Mr. B's Appliances. They should still be in the Sunnyslope area of Phoenix. Around 7th Street & Hatcher or Dunlap. I bought a very nice 1-18 there a few years ago.
As Sun City was built up in the early 1960's the homes there were equipped with Frigidaire appliances. And, as most of those places were used just in the Winter, you can still come across original machines, in good condition today.
There is also a place down on South Central Avenue. They sell restored appliances, mainly stoves from what I've heard. One of the guys from Las Vegas has recently moved to Phoenix. He mentioned there is an appliance group that meets informally at Millers Appliance in Glendale, Arizona. That place is also a good source for parts as well.
Happy hunting!
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Post# 25920-1/21/2003-10:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (searching)
MESSAGE: This weekend could have been a bonanza here, if the machines I found were not thrown from the truck and banged up badly. A 1966 LK with the SPANKALATOR agitator, an avocado SS solid tub mid-60's SQ pair (I cried when I saw these), an early late-model Norge with the new, white tub, but with the classic BURPALATOR agitator, and another GE wide mouth, big bertha dryer. So sad you can't save everything, or at least be there when the truck arrives so they don't throw and drop everything.
-ph
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Post# 25921-1/21/2003-12:00 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (searching)
MESSAGE: Maybe you should go back and at least retrieve the SPANKALATOR agitator. It might be fun to install it on your 1953 Kenmore once you get her up and running when you want a little variety from the curved fin SPLASHALATOR.
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Post# 25922-1/21/2003-12:27 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 1/21/03
MESSAGE: Well, Peter, this one is a dream machine for me also. What makes it worse is that I have seen that one operating in its heyday, complete with lit control panel and everything. It is the only one I have ever seen, and they were rare then - probably non existent now in any condition!! Definitely Hollywood glamourous!!! And of course that robin's egg blue porcelain tub - nothing like it before or since!!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 25923-1/21/2003-12:39 ||| frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Philco POD
MESSAGE: I join you guys in longing for a vintage flapping Philco. However, having grown up with a left-opening Kenmore lid, I can imagine I'd be constantly bumping my dominant right elbow against the edge of the Philco's right-opening lid. Sigh. The black and blue marks would be worth it!
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Post# 25924-1/21/2003-12:43 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (searching)
MESSAGE: OK, OK, guys, enough fun with words for now. Bob made a valid point - if anyone disagrees with his delivery, that is a separate issue to take up with him privately. I too am not a big fan of made up words especially when they are not really necessary; of course an occasional spoof IS fun.... and Lord knows I have done it myself. But using those words and capitalizing them is kind of like taunting - - not necessary and not particularly nice. Besides, exactly WHAT is a "spankalator" anyway? I am more than a bit curious........
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Post# 25925-1/21/2003-12:44 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco POD
MESSAGE: Yes, but not if you had the matching left opening Philco dryer.............. with window door of course!
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Post# 25926-1/21/2003-12:45 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: Philco POD
MESSAGE: Would that be a Philco with a FLAPALATOR?
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Post# 25927-1/21/2003-13:48 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (Roto-Flex = Spankalator)
MESSAGE: In one of the Sears catalogs, the Roto-Flex agitator had the tag line of "the agitator that spanks your clothes clean"...
If the nickname fits...
-ph
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Post# 25928-1/21/2003-14:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (club fun and no fun)
MESSAGE: You don't think the 3 paragraph rant against the poster of some fun pics who made up a word used in a side remark on a pic is worth a little fun and taunting? We all have fun nicknames and words for our machines and the actions there of, so that won't stop. That's part of the fun. The resentful, hypercritical posts against the Boston members of the club that happen at every opportunity is what really needs to stop. That's not fun.
-ph
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Post# 25929-1/21/2003-16:02 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: O.K. BUH BYE!
MESSAGE: Anyone needing to reach me, my email address is robert.wirth2@verizon.net. Other than that....
I shall no longer burden you with my posts. There's nothing further I have to add, and like Hell if I'm gonna participate in all this childish bullshit.
CIAO, BABYS.
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Post# 25930-1/21/2003-17:11 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: Blackstone
MESSAGE: Has anyone ever seen a Blackstone washer serving in the Midwest/Northern Plains? I've only lived in Minnesota and South Dakota and until discovering this site had never known this machine. I'm wondering if Blackstones were only found/sold in certain parts of the country.
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Post# 25931-1/21/2003-17:15 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 1/21/03 (Control Panel)
MESSAGE: Does anybody know how those all those colored buttons worked? I assume they were backlit (must have been beautiful!). Were they buttons, or toggle-levers of some ilk? Wouuld love to see a close-up (even a faded one) of the control panel.
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Post# 25932-1/21/2003-17:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (new additions, pics to come soon!!AMP?)
MESSAGE: Maytag rated their first machines at 8lbs but later never stated any weight ratings on their machines preferring instead to instruct users to load the clothes loosely and ensure good movement in the water. Of course, with the lid switch stopping all action when the lid is opened, how would we ever know?? ;-)
Congrats on the new finds!
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Post# 25933-1/21/2003-17:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 1/21/03
MESSAGE: That blue porcelain is one of the most beautiful tubs I've ever seen. It's not visible in the POD, but the blue came all the way up around the opening (slanted parts) that made the tub look HUGE, it was very cool. There was an Imperial on the farm, but it's panel was beyond repair. Even the Philco Miss America I brought home will end up with a "marginal" control panel when finished - one of the trade-offs for farm machine restoration. I wish I'd taken better pics of the imperial out there, perhaps Peter got some better ones.
Here are the pics of the Philco machines we brought home last June.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/June+2002+SD+Farm+Trip&.src=ph&.dnm=Lid+Open+-+66+Miss+A.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/June%2b2002%2bSD%2bFarm%2bTrip%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25934-1/21/2003-17:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (lid switch)
MESSAGE: I always wondered what was maytag's deal with going out of their way to stop you from watching.
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Post# 25935-1/21/2003-18:04 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 1/21/03 (56 Philco)
MESSAGE: I enjoyed revsiting the farm pics you took. Have you had any luck beginning the restoration on the 1956 Philco? It looks like a fun machine to me.
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Post# 25936-1/21/2003-19:12 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: JON CHARLES -MAKING IT UP AS YOU GO ALONG - SUNDAY WASH (Can we Spell Sense of Humor???)
MESSAGE: Ahhhhh Shut Up!!!!!!!!!
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Post# 25937-1/21/2003-19:17 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: Coming soon...
MESSAGE: The Avocado GE Combo "Thrushulating" and "Shrinkalating" its way to "cleanalishishly" clean clothes!
The Host
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Post# 25938-1/21/2003-19:49 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 1/21/03 (56 Philco)
MESSAGE: I sent that washer home with Jimmy (FilterFlo) in Ohio. I found that on a western Nebraska junkyard and couldn't come home empty handed so I grabbed it - the only vintage washer on the whole property. Jimmy was back in Omaha in September to pick up his farm machines and a Kelvinator set from another place in Iowa I found last summer. While I was at work one day, Jimmy spent the day in the garage playing with his 56 Philco and was able to get it running in the driveway!
Here's a link to the album with the September pics:
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst?.dir=/Jimmy%27s+Omaha+Visit+Sept+2002&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp%3f.dir=/June%2b2002%2bSD%2bFarm%2bTrip%26.dnm=Lid%2bOpen%2b-%2b66%2bMiss%2bA.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 25939-1/21/2003-20:02 ||| Brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon... (What did you have to do to it?)
MESSAGE: Jon,
In a previous post I asked you if this made two GE combo's for you. I am sure that you got side tracked and did not notice.
What did you have to do to your Avacodo GE combo to get it up and running? I am interested to hear.
Also, you mentioned in your profile that you have a Kennmore Combo that you could never get to work. What in your opinion is wrong with that one, and did you give up on it, or are you just at a dead in with it. The Gas Kenmore combo that I used at John's during the convention was so cool! I would love to have one!
Thanks for all your postings, and all of your hard work!
Brent
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Post# 25940-1/21/2003-20:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (lid switch)
MESSAGE: They always touted the safety features in their automatics - even from the very first machine in '49, tub brake, lid switch, etc. From the 1949 "Questions and Answers About the Maytag Automatic Washer" a booklet for dealers:
"Q - How does the Safety Lid Switch offer complete protection to the user?
A - The Safety Lid Switch on the Maytag Automatic Washer has been designed to contain some of the washer controls. When the lid is raised, the electric circuit is broken and the motor immediately stops running. If the washer is in a spin cycle at the time the lid is raised, a brake is automatically applied and the tub stops within 3 to 4 seconds. When the lid is again closed, the operation is automatically resumed at the point in the cycle where it was stopped. Thus the Safety Lid offers complete protection to the user and to anyone else who may be near the machine when it is operating."
Safer for children and befuddled elderly that might jump in...who knows?! Other than the spin cycle, I can't think of anything about the agitation that would be cause for alarm!
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Post# 25941-1/21/2003-20:31 ||| Jetcone (Boston.MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon... (What did you have to do to it?)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent:
-Yes this makes two GE combos now. I have alot of pix to put up of the Avocado machine and was going to do that tonight ...but Robert and I got fiddling with the web server for alomost two hours and now its late! I will try again tomorrow nite.
The Kenmore Combo is identical to John's and it is a work in progress, he recently brought up some parts for me so I can make another stab at it. At first it wasn't regulating the gas burner and this could be big trouble,now it also has stopped spinning. They are very complex machines.
I am finally glad to get ONE combo up and running. The GE is so silent now it is impressive!
But the Kenmore will not shrink clothes like the GE so I really want to get it going again.
I always enjoy seeing you at the conventions!
cheers jon
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Post# 25942-1/21/2003-20:55 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon... (What did you have to do to it? MINT, MINT, MINT)
MESSAGE: The avocado combo is mint.........hehehe, what's that?? Well, I can't even hear it running......-LAMPBOY
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Post# 25943-1/21/2003-21:26 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (lid switch)
MESSAGE: Probably it was just a simpler electrical design to stop ALL the action -- fill, agitate, spin -- with the switch, instead of stopping only the spin.
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Post# 25944-1/21/2003-21:27 ||| Pulsator (Ann Arbor, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 1/21/03
MESSAGE: I don't understand this "colorfill" thing. What on earth is it? Please help me build my knowledge on Vintage Washers!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/June+2002+SD+Farm+Trip&.src=ph&.dnm=Inside+66+Philco.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/June%2b2002%2bSD%2bFarm%2bTrip%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 25945-1/21/2003-21:31 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: JON CHARLES -MAKING IT UP AS YOU GO ALONG - SUNDAY WASH (Can we Spell Sense of Humor???)
MESSAGE: For what it's worth: I saw the pictures and read the captions, and got the jokes - and I'm a stove guy. :-)
We all have our passions, but what fun are they if you can't laugh at them occasionally? Life is serious enough.
Dan (aka Pollyanna)
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Post# 25946-1/21/2003-21:37 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 1/21/03 (Contourfill)
MESSAGE: Actually, it's "Contourfill." Someone (maybe Greg/Gansky1) explained that it was a marketing term related to the very large lid opening, which was unique to Philco at that time. Notice how the lid opening takes up virtually the entire top of the machine. The lid was also reversible.
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Post# 25947-1/21/2003-22:01 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: O.K. BUH BYE!
MESSAGE: Bob,
Please don't go! I consider myself a newbie and look forward to reading your posts and visiting that wonderland you call your laundry room. I feel I learn something everytime.
-Alex
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Post# 25948-1/21/2003-22:14 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon... (What did you have to do to it?)
MESSAGE: Hi Jon, I too am very interested in the GE combo. They were beautiful machines. Does it use electric or gas to dry the clothes? Like Brent I really fell in love with the Lady Kenmore combo at the convention but I can understand how complex that machine must be. Is the GE a simpler design? Can't wait for the pictures. Thanks for sharing. Terry
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Post# 25949-1/21/2003-22:33 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (lid switch)
MESSAGE: I remember my great grandma's Marquette washer (Franklin transmission) wouldn't even fill with water when the lid was raised. Also, the Frigidaire 1-18's were like that too :-( . Pretty frustrating for a kid.
But there was always good ol' Kenmore. A little duct tape or a pencil and you're all set for the entertainment. Even the mercury switch models were very generous and let you raise the lid a little to see the spin.
I so remember holding the lid halfway on the Kenmore 800 and then finally propping it open with a pen.
Grandma's 1966 Kenmore was adjusted with a little duct tape.
The 1983 Whirlpool (belt drive) was easily hacked. Pencil in the hole and you're done. Same with my 87 Whirlpool and my Lady K.
When the 1991 Maytag arrived I remember feeling sorry for the kids that grew up with such a frustrating machine. Of course, now I know a clothes pin or popscicle stick saves the day.
Nowadays, it's wire strippers, electrical tape and a wire nut. That'll fix ya Lil' Lady! Lid open all the way and nothing sticking out of the hole.
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Post# 25950-1/21/2003-22:34 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 1/21/03 (Contourfill)
MESSAGE: At first, I thought contourfill meant that the water fills in a halo pattern like the 1-18's.
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Post# 25951-1/21/2003-22:39 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (Kenmore/Whirlpool mercury lid switch)
MESSAGE: One could get a better view of a spinning Whirlpool/Kenmore with a mercury lid switch by popping the entire top up. With the lid itself still closed, the top could be raised higher without triggering the switch. ;-)
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Post# 25952-1/21/2003-22:55 ||| jasonjennings (Mullens, WV)
SUBJECT: Kenmore washer from the 70's
MESSAGE: Anyone know where I can find a good working machine from this time period
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Post# 25953-1/21/2003-22:59 ||| jasonjennings (Mullens, WV)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (Kenmore/Whirlpool mercury lid switch)
MESSAGE: I was just wondering know where I could find a good still working Kenmore washing machine from the 1970's
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Post# 25954-1/21/2003-23:17 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (Kenmore/Whirlpool mercury lid switch)
MESSAGE: There are some out there. YOu just have to look. I'm trying to fina a 1970 Kenmore 800 washer and haven't found one yet. If you're looking for the ones with the black control panel and silver knobs, alot of those are still running. The earlier machines are getting pretty hard to find.
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Post# 25955-1/21/2003-23:22 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 1/21/03
MESSAGE: 1960's vintage Philcos were very handsome machines, IMHO. (Especially the dryers, with their round windowed doors.) I never did get to see one in operation. Probably because Consumer Reports always gave them less than glowing reviews. The tested Philco dryers were rated dead last in both the Sept. 1966 and Sept. 1969 issues of CR. The 1966 issue also didn't have many nice things to say about the tested Philco washer. (That same issue also didn't fully appreciate the Frigidaire Jetcone! :-o It ranked lower then the Philco! :-o What did they know?)
My family once stopped at a drive-in near the Somerville Circle in New Jersey. There was an appliance dealer located next door to the restaurant. They had several Philco models in their window display. I spent several minutes window shopping. That's the closest I ever got to one.
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Post# 25956-1/21/2003-23:33 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Kenmore mercury lid switch
MESSAGE: Is there a way to disconnect or bypass this one? I am sure there is, but have never had to do it before.
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Post# 25957-1/21/2003-23:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Happy 1-18!!! (new additions, pics to come soon!!AMP?)
MESSAGE: Greg, it could be rated for about a 10-12 pound load at best. I don't believe the 14 pound machines came along until the mid 1960s. Then the big load machines came out in 1967 or 1968. I remember seein a 1962 or 1963 vintage machinne in about 1978, it looked like it would hold about 14 pounds. Bob
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Post# 25958-1/21/2003-23:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon...
MESSAGE: Jon, I can't wait for the pics. You know how partial I am to front loaders and combos. The closest I've ever gotten to a GE combo was at Jeff & Cal's (the ones you ended up with) as well as the one in John L's kitchen. I so look forward to the day when I can experience one in person. Thanks Jon!!!!! Bob
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Post# 25959-1/22/2003-00:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Coming soon... (What did you have to do to it?)
MESSAGE: Jon, TERRIFIC, you now have two GE combos. And as far as the Kenmore combo, I know you're one of "DA Men!!!" that can get it going again. I have all the confidence in the world you'll get the Lady going again. If I ever make it to your house, I'll just be beside myself with all the machines I'll have to experience. I think I may go even more beyond "overload" than I did at Robert's. Bob
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Post# 25960-1/22/2003-02:33 ||| Handigal (Seattle)
SUBJECT: need element for Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Hi,
I'm new to this and need an thick type element for a 50's Frigidaire. Any ideas where I can find one?
Thanks.
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Post# 25961-1/22/2003-06:30 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore mercury lid switch (Bypass)
MESSAGE: I bypassed mine by opening the cover, pulling the mercury switch out of its holder, and duct-taping it to the cabinet so it would always be in the 'closed' position. Did this on my mom's machine, too, when I was a teenager.
Steve 1-18
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Post# 25962-1/22/2003-06:39 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (club fun and no fun)
MESSAGE: I personally don't care if it ever stops. Last time I checked, Applianceville was still located in America so if people want to baptize their machines and take them to church, that's fine too. Apparently Bob's initial rant was about a LOT more than "non technical terms". Perhaps that entire little "tete a tete" (from the beginning) should have occurred in the sandbox and not in this forum. That was or should have been between Bob and Jon and/or Greg.
But, without taking sides and to answer your question- - no, I do not think it is warranted to taunt anyone for any reason, especially when a few people band up against one. I thought we got over that in high school. If there was some personal dislike between Bob and certain members, not much can be done about that. However, unless the goal of taunting was to take sides, make Bob look utterly foolish and ultimately leave the club, what exactly was accomplished? I suppose one could argue that Bob's post did that also. And two wrongs don't necessarily set things right.........
I also suppose that before I make any more enemies here that I have said enough......
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Post# 25963-1/22/2003-06:45 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Oh No!
MESSAGE: Yesterday, I decided to run a load of towels in the 70's Maytag to see if it would suds lock. When the water filled, the machine would not agitate or even spin. The motor didn't even hum. I started to panic. I tried every position on the timer to no avail. I pushed the timer knob in and pulled it back out - no motor. THEN, I tried to change the speed and low and behold, the motor started. Apparently, the speed (cycle) selection buttons have been bumped and the normal button wasn't completely pushed in.
On to the test....
I put two capfuls of purex liquid detergent in and didn't even get a suds cake on top. Not even layer of suds. As far as I could tell, the machine didn't have any problem getting up to full spin speed after the wash. One observation I have made with this machine is suds foam out of most of my standpipes when this machine drains. It makes a mess behind the washers.
Also a side note. I've noticed that the Maytag drain hoses on most of the older machines are heavy gauge and not easy to flex. Any reason for this?
Steve1-18
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Post# 25964-1/22/2003-06:45 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale
MESSAGE: Look whats for sale on Ebay A GE Combo. Looks good but no window in the door. Its up for bids if anyone is interested in it!! Check to out
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3202035630&category=13596
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Post# 25965-1/22/2003-06:51 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: need element for Frigidaire
MESSAGE: try www.antiqueappliances.com
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Post# 25966-1/22/2003-06:54 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (Taking the washer to church)
MESSAGE: What a wonderful idea! Actually, as a fundraiser, later this year, I'll be having a wash-in at the house to raise money for my church's building fund.
I came out of the laundry room 'closet' a long time ago, so everybody at work, church, etc, knows I collect washers. The more you let it be known (as queer as it may sound: I collect vintage AUTOMATIC washing machines) the more scouts you have out there. I get at least three calls a week from one friend that will alert me to a new 'shipment' of appliances behind Lowes (I refer to the back of Lowes as the 'real appliance department.') That's where I find most of my freebies.
Steve1-18
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Post# 25967-1/22/2003-07:14 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (coming out)
MESSAGE: Isn't it cool to come out of the laundry closet?
I did that for my guitar player (I play drums in a band) and I showed him videos of vintage machines running and demonstrated my little Lady K washer. He was impressed and pretty cool about it.
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Post# 25968-1/22/2003-07:21 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale
MESSAGE: And the matching dishwasher is there too!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=13596&item=3202036641
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Post# 25969-1/22/2003-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: need element for Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Here's one on ebay as well...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20712&item=2303032642
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Post# 25970-1/22/2003-07:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Oh No!
MESSAGE: Sounds like you need someone around to make sure your buttons are pushed!!
If you do a small load and agitate the detergent in before adding the clothes, you might get a small layer of suds. There just isn't much action at the top of the agitator to whip up a bubble cake in a Maytag. I almost never have any suds in the Maytag - even with the faster pulley, but when it drains into the sink, then the suds come out to play...
Maytag made their own hoses (or made to their specs) and being thicker, wouldn't dry out as much as thinner hoses and would never kink. I have the orginal hose on my '67 and it's nearly as supple and flexible as when it was new.
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Post# 25971-1/22/2003-07:48 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore mercury lid switch (Bypass)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the information Steve, I think I can handle that one! It is an easy fix. Don
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Post# 25972-1/22/2003-09:23 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 1/21/03 (56 Philco)
MESSAGE: I'm glad Jimmy got it running. From the photos it looks like it needs alot of work but what a beauty she'll be and a very rare find, too. Keep us posted on the progress he makes with the restoration. I'd love to see some updated photos.
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Post# 25973-1/22/2003-09:33 ||| FilterFlo (Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio)
SUBJECT: GE Combo & Roll Out Dishwasher on Ebay
MESSAGE: Boy! What a great find while in here in S Cal with my van.......I bid on both of these, sure hope I can get them!!!!!
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Post# 25974-1/22/2003-10:01 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: West Coast trip Yeilds a Frigidaire SkinnyMini (club fun and no fun)
MESSAGE: Very well said, Angus. Thank you.
-ph
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Post# 25975-1/22/2003-10:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Combo & Roll Out Dishwasher on Ebay
MESSAGE: GO JIMMY!!!
There was a Miele 1918 on ebay last night that the seller pulled off the auction block. I got up early to bid and it was gone! Hope you have better luck! The pics look immaculate!
-ph
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Post# 25976-1/22/2003-10:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: O.K. BUH BYE! (there's always email)
MESSAGE: Bob has changed his profile in a fit of good humor. If you would like to reach him, his real email address is:
robert.wirth@verizon.net
-ph
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Post# 25977-1/22/2003-10:34 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: O.K. BUH BYE! (AND THE SANDBOX!!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: From this side of the water it looks as if the taunting is still continuing,
This is exactly the stuff that carries differences of opinion to the point of no return!!!!!
I thought some of us might have learned a thing or two after the TTurbomat incident!!!!!
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Post# 25978-1/22/2003-10:36 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: O.K. BUH BYE! (there's always email)
MESSAGE: Now lets see here, who is the child?
That needs to be changed, this is a PUBLIC forum without an age restriction..............
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Post# 25979-1/22/2003-10:37 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: SUNDAYS WASH (The Video)
MESSAGE: Hi Jon
Did you ever get the video done of the Blackstone so we can see and hear the FAB looking machine!!!
Mike
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Post# 25980-1/22/2003-10:41 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale
MESSAGE: Wow!!!
Thats looks like it could sure hold a few baskets of towels, and whats the "Official Colour Name" for it.
Mike
p.s. Who`s the nearest to it!!!!
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Post# 25981-1/22/2003-12:29 ||| filekar1 (italy)
SUBJECT: great CONSTRUCTA washer
MESSAGE: beautiful CONSTRUCTA washer
great deutchland machine with "Kockautomat" for boiling the whites for you
Can you say me something abuot this washer. bye
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2303092116&category=8419
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Post# 25982-1/22/2003-12:30 ||| filekar1 (italy)
SUBJECT: great CONSTRUCTA washer
MESSAGE: Anybody of you have a user manuals for this machine or like this machine?
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Post# 25983-1/22/2003-13:02 ||| Soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: Mobile Maid Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Hello fellow appliance fanatics! I never dreamed I would find folks with a similar passion!
I am looking for a GE Mobile Maid portable dishwasher (top load, impeller-style wash system) to replace one I sold 15-years ago for $10 (yikes!) I still have the owner's manual!
I have worked on about every washing machine, vacuum and dishwasher manufactured between 1960 and 1979! Looking forward to my membership!
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Post# 25984-1/22/2003-13:20 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Mobile Maid Dishwasher
MESSAGE: I have worked on about every washing machine, vacuum and dishwasher manufactured between 1960 and 1979! Looking forward to my membership!
WhooHooo!! Tell us all about the Blackstones and Philco Automagic/Miss Americas!
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Post# 25985-1/22/2003-13:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Mobile Maid Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Great! We're so glad you are here! The Mobile Maid d/ws are fun little machines. Here in Minnesota, we still see them occasionally at estate sales and such.
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Post# 25986-1/22/2003-14:29 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: Available: KDI-17a In Avocado
MESSAGE: Free for the taking to anybody who will pick it up or arrange for crating/shipping. Will be trashed after about a month if no takers.
Located near the central Texas coast at my parents' home. Fairly good condition for being around 27 to 28 years old. Does run, but a little noisy, needs a bit of pump/motor work. Some rust at bottom of the inner door, and on the top rack, bottom rack is in good condition, I've been told. Racks were changed at least once that I can recall. A few light scratches on the outer door panel.
Pics can be provided upon request. My email addy is in my Appville profile.
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Post# 25987-1/22/2003-14:50 ||| frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Filterflo's Big Haul
MESSAGE: Jimmy--- Great pics of you and your van load of vintage machines! Talk about a great road trip! Congratulations; I'm going to go off and be EXTREMELY jealous,now. :)
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Post# 25988-1/22/2003-15:04 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Available: KDI-17a In Avocado
MESSAGE: Glenn, did your folks redo their kitchen? What did they replace the KA with? I recall you had a fairly large family, so that machine gave them very good service!
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Post# 25989-1/22/2003-15:41 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Available: KDI-17a In Avocado
MESSAGE: No specific remodel. Just a new water heater for the bathroom end of the house, and the dishwasher. GE PDW-7800GWW.
This is the parents' dishwasher history --
Summer 1975 -- Added a KDI-17a in stainless to the house that was built in 1964. KA at that time didn't actually include a front panel set, and you ordered from a choice of available colors/finishes.
Fall 1980 (I think that's when it was) -- bought a different house in town (built in 1972). The plans were to move the KDI-17a along, but the 'new' house already had a KDI-17a in avocado. This was the 2nd dishwasher in that house, the original was a Magic Chef, I think they said, didn't last long. We did swap the racks (ha!) because "ours" were in better condition than "theirs." Far as I'm aware, the stainless KDI is still in the 'old' house. The older couple who bought the house, she's now a widow in a nursing home and the house is sitting idle. It could be in pretty good shape, if they didn't use it much.
Jan 2003 -- GE!
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Post# 25990-1/22/2003-17:28 ||| soharra (Huntsville, Alabama)
SUBJECT: RE: Mobile Maid Dishwasher (Mobile Maids in Minnesota)
MESSAGE: Scott,
Thanks for your message! I may have to make a trip to the Arctic North to find one!!??
Shawn
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Post# 25991-1/22/2003-17:42 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: great CONSTRUCTA washer
MESSAGE: I remember that Constructa from the time I was young, it must be about 30 years old. I didn't remember the inner door was a drop down one. It's an all push button machine, not really interesting for dial pushers! I believe that the lower black line in the control panel contains some lights that shows the cycle progress. I think it's a very interesting machine, but I don't have the room for it and it's also rather far away from where I live. However I have mailed a few times with a Constructa collector, I will mail him the link to this washer, he might be interested.
Louis
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Post# 25992-1/22/2003-19:21 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Mobile Maid Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Hi! I just aquired a GE portable dishwasher from a place that tears down houses. (I really don't collect dishwashers but hated to pass it by) It has a dial that when finished with the drying cycle, pops the lid open to let the steam escape. It's white on the outside with pink trim and pink on the inside with an impeller in the bottom and stainless steel racks inside. A round plastic thing sits on top of the impeller housing for silverware. I haven't had a chance to try it out yet, but it looks like it is quite a machine. The model is: 1 S P 4 0 N and the serial number is: 55426616. Anyone know the year of this machine? It is completely automatic. Mark
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Post# 25993-1/22/2003-20:27 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: O.K. BUH BYE! (AND THE SANDBOX!!!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Well said Mikey. That thought has been in my heavy heart ever since this erupted. Bob
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Post# 25994-1/22/2003-20:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Mobile Maid Dishwasher
MESSAGE: Welcome Soharra. Glad you found us!!!
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Post# 25995-1/22/2003-20:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Available: KDI-17a In Avocado
MESSAGE: Glenn, HA HA I swapppedout the bottom rack of my GSD1200 with my mom's when they sold their house, her's was in much better shape than mine.
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Post# 25996-1/22/2003-23:06 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Combo & Roll Out Dishwasher on Ebay (good luck)
MESSAGE: Good luck Jimmy! How have you been?
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Post# 25997-1/23/2003-05:24 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: POD 1-23-03 BEATTY
MESSAGE: The Beatty is a very nice looking machine.
Is it a Launderall under the hood?
Very nice looking!
Brent
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Post# 25998-1/23/2003-05:26 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Mobile Maid Dishwasher (WOW)
MESSAGE: That sounds like a very interesting dishwasher. I am sure that you will have no trouble finding someone to take it off of your hands.
Brent
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Post# 25999-1/23/2003-05:30 ||| brent-aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: 40 year old GE Combo for Sale (Is this one of the first GE Combo's?)
MESSAGE: That is a very cool looking combo's.
I was wondering if this was one of the first. I am saying that because it looks a little bigger than the one's that I have seen in person. Or is it that the door makes it look so big. I wonder why they did not put a window. Were the first one's made by Maytag? (just kidding)
Brent