The following are archived forum messages from the original forum of automaticwasher.org referred to as Applianceville from May, 2001 to Sept 2004...
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Post# 28000-3/24/2003-09:12 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
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RE: Mid 1980s Whirlpool Imperial Seventy (Whirlpool Imperial-70 Washer Pump noises)
MESSAGE: It's just the rush of air and water thru the pump.
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Post# 28001-3/24/2003-13:44 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
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RE: Mid 1980s Whirlpool Imperial Seventy (WP vs. KM operating noise)
MESSAGE: I wouldn't say ALL Kenmores are quieter than Whirlpools. My grandmother's 1970-ish Kenmore 70 was VERY noisy. Had a horrible vibrating roar. I never could figure out why that machine was so loud, and always wondered what effect a quiet-pak treatment would have had.
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Post# 28002-3/24/2003-15:21 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
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RE: Mid 1980s Whirlpool Imperial Seventy (Whirlpool Imperial-70 Washer Agitator:)
MESSAGE: Greetings, Geoff.
The Imperial Seventy belongs to the BF, so I don't have any direct experience using it, other than peeping in a couple times. :-) I vaguely recall that the highest water level comes to just a bit below the lower edge of the cap, such that the upper fins splash just a touch. I'll try getting a pic of it sometime, if I can.
My parents also had a 1976 Supreme 80 (with a regular Surgilator, NOT Double-Duty, didn't have the fins at the top), and the high water level came right to the bottom of the agitator cap, basically completely covering the agitator, but NOT 1/4 of the way up the cap as you say yours does. A full fill on that machine was 26 or 27 gallons. It originally had four water levels, but I changed the pressure switch to a variable. Even without the Double-Duty, I thought it had impressive turnover, and I stuffed some BIG loads in that machine, sometimes almost too big for the matching dryer to handle.
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Post# 28003-3/24/2003-17:23 ||| drmitch (West Tennessee)
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Mamies Matags
MESSAGE: Was the gnelson one of our members? Who got em?
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Post# 28004-3/24/2003-17:40 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
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RE: Mamies Matags
MESSAGE: ....the little stinker outbid me on the last 5 seconds of the auction! I do hope he's in the club and that they are not lost forever! Mark
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Post# 28005-3/24/2003-17:44 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
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RE: Mamies Matags
MESSAGE: I don't think so. I do not know the name.
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Post# 28006-3/24/2003-17:47 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Mamies Matags
MESSAGE: Sorry to hear that Mark. They seemed to be in nice shape.
The 75' Kenmore that I got from you is running nicely. Just wanted to let you know.
Thanks,
Bruce
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Post# 28007-3/24/2003-18:12 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
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RE: Mamies Matags (Bidding Challenge:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Mark, I'm sorry to see that someone Outbid you. I'm guessing that the person isn't in the Club, because I would think and hope that someone in the Club certainly wouldn't Outbid someone else in the Club, at least not intentionally. "What a Bummer" Mark, they were great looking and I know I was so glad to see that someone in the Club had Bid on them.
Best Regards, Steve
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Post# 28008-3/24/2003-18:36 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
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RE: Top Load Dishwashers (top rack spray arms in top loading dishwashers)
MESSAGE: Of course, I forgot, I'd seen that system on Whirlpool dishwashers
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Post# 28009-3/24/2003-18:43 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
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RE: Top Load Dishwashers (No WD 40 )
MESSAGE: Actually, I've never experienced WD-40 getting "gummy" with age. I know OIL will (plus it attracts dust), so I don't use that. My Grandmother's 1963 Frigidaire spray tube dishwasher hadn't been used in years, so both the the timer and the little motor that opens the drain were stuck. After dousing them in WD-40, they immediately started working again and have continued to work for some years now. I also had a Gaffers & Sattler range where the clock had been stuck for years, sprayed it, and it began running and also ran for years.
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Post# 28010-3/24/2003-18:49 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
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RE: Top Load Dishwashers (stubborn parents)
MESSAGE: I know what you mean, I could hardly ever get my Grandmother to use the dishwasher, it was like it was for "special occasions". I alway made a point of using it whenever I visited and I told her to at least run it occasionally to keep it "limbered up". One time I was visiting and caught her taking dishes OUT of the machine and washing them by hand. She did comment once about how nice the glasses looked that had gone through the machine.
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Post# 28011-3/24/2003-18:54 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
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RE: Top Load Dishwashers (No WD 40 , other info:)
MESSAGE: In my experience with timers, it seems like they don't put any lubrication in them. All the ones I've seen are devoid of grease, except for maybe the bearings on the clock motor and gear shafts (which are probably oil-impregnated bronze)Again, it would seem that any kind of grease would eventually, harden, gum up, or attract dust.
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Post# 28012-3/24/2003-19:00 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
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RE: GE with Mini Basket (tub holes)
MESSAGE: some two-part hardening epoxy should do the trick.
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Post# 28013-3/24/2003-19:02 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
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RE: GE with Mini Basket (Asko repairs)
MESSAGE: If you check in Consumer Reports, they don't give Asko a very high repair record.
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Post# 28014-3/24/2003-19:09 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
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RE: Vintage Dishwashers, GE impeller wash Age anyone? (GE impeller dishwasher)
MESSAGE: I had a GE top loading impeller model for a while, and I think it had the Power Shower, even though it was an impeller machine. I remember the lid popped up during the dry cycle. Boy was it NOISY!
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Post# 28015-3/24/2003-19:34 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
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RE: Mamies Matags (Lost Forever)
MESSAGE: Wow man, that's a lot of dough!!
Ken D.
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Post# 28016-3/24/2003-19:38 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Mid 1980s Whirlpool Imperial Seventy (Mid 1980s Whirlpool Imperial Seventy)
MESSAGE: Hi Glen,
I think this is a real fantastic WP model - it it possible to put these great pics in the appliance museum with the other WP pics?
Peter
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Post# 28017-3/24/2003-20:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Mamies Matags
MESSAGE: Too bad - hope they won't be lost forever...
Someone should email the buyer and tell him about the group - they might be an appliance lover...
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Post# 28018-3/24/2003-21:04 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
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RE: Mamies Matags (Mamies Maytags)
MESSAGE: I would think that anyone who paid that much money for that set would take care of it.(plus shipping$$$)But on the other hand one never know's... I just purchased the 1950's Whirlpool from E bay,and the shipping is going to cost about 4 times the price I paid for the washer. Still,most hobbies are more expensive than this one!
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Post# 28019-3/24/2003-21:15 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
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Guess what I found on the nature strip???
MESSAGE: I had my Dad down for a visit last week. When I drove him home on Sunday we went through Elwood, an inner suburb of Melbourne. Their Hard Garbage collection was on! I drove straight through, we didn't have time to spare.
I stayed at their place Sunday night and set off for home Monday. As I had a lot of places to stop at on the way home, none near Elwood, I wasn't going to check out the hard garbage but of course I couldn't help myself. Lucky I did - I scored a slope front Hoover Keymatic washer! The machine was on the nature strip (grass verge) upside down, the motor had already been swiped by some philistine. (Keymatic motors have an inbuilt reduction gear which makes then sought after for use in barbeque spits.) So it is missing a motor and the belts, drain hose and wires were cut through too. I have spare belts and hose (I got their last tub-to-pump hose from Hoover about ten years ago) and several other spares but I don't think I have a motor. A passer-by helped me lift it into the back of my station wagon, Keymatics are extremely heavy. They have a cast iron weight and the whole machine is built like a tank. The panels are not structural, the machine has a steel frame inside and the panels bolt to it.
The good news is that the cabinet and everything else is in in good condition, though filthy. The door boot is the original blue one, the blue rubber tended to perish so most were replaced decades ago. The blue door boot is intact but faded, I do have a new spare black one.
I will post photos in the near future. The machine is a "Mark IV Keymatic", I have never seen a "Mark IV" (or mark anything) before. It appears identical to the others I owned before, except for the oldest I used to have which was aqua/turquoise and had a "time line" indicator, this recently found one has white cabinet and dial indicator, like the other couple I used to have in Richmond.
Guess the house building will have to wait while I photograph and clean up this one.
Chris.
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Post# 28020-3/24/2003-22:10 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
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RE: Mamies Matags
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce! Glad to hear you are happy with the Kenmore. I just found a dryer that matches a washer in that vintage so now I have a white set.....but no pink Maytags....:~( Mark
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Post# 28021-3/24/2003-22:13 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
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RE: Mamies Matags (Lost Forever)
MESSAGE: Ken, It's kind of like collecting art. There are only a few of these machines left and they are getting rarer and rarer, so yes..... that is a lot of dough but my goodness, at least I'm not wasting money on cigarettes or hooch! Mark
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Post# 28022-3/24/2003-22:25 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
Mamies Maytags
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone! I did email the winner of this most beautiful set and invited him (or her) to take a look at our site and perhaps join. Looking at this person's previous buys and sells, bidding on these was really out of character.....so who knows.Mark
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Post# 28023-3/24/2003-22:33 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
F&P Gentle Annie
MESSAGE: As requested (By DaDoES?) some weeks ago, here are some pics of my mother's Fisher and Paykel Gentle Annie washer.
It is about a 1990 example, but the model came out in 1986 so I hope it scrapes in as a classic???
The ECS on the "dashboard" stands for Electronic Control System, a forerunner of the Smart Drive. It has a stepper motor like Smart Drive but is still belt driven. The belt is very strong, a poly-V belt like front loaders often use, but about 50mm (2 inches)or more wide. The belt directly drives the agitator shaft, there is no transmission. The agitator shaft runs inside the spin tube, and there is a pulley for each but only the agitator shaft is driven by the belt. The spin and agitator pulleys are about an inch apart and between them each pulley has one protruding finger. The agitator shaft thus can turn almost 360 degrees (about 355?) before the fingers collide and the spin tube (and thus the basket) begins to turn. There is no "brake", slowing down is achieved by shorting all motor windings together when the lid is lifted, causing the motor to become an electric brake. The spin pulley continues about 1 revolution until the backs of the fingers collide, then the agitator pulley slows the spin pulley. From 1000 rpm to stop takes about three seconds when the lid is lifted, but it brakes gently if spin continues to its end and turns itself off normally, takes about 30 seconds. The agitator in action rotates about 300 degrees then instantly reverses and turns 300 degrees backwards, then instantly reverses and so on. Unlike the Smart Drive, there is no fractional pause between reverses, so it really agitates like a conventional transmission type top loader, but with a fast 300 degree stroke. The spin pulley (and thus the basket) are not braked, but are free to float each way with the washing. Occasionally the fingers will collide, which means the basket gets driven for a portion of that stroke. After pumping out it simply turns continuously in one direction, so the basket is driven by the two touching pulley fingers. It spins in three steps, about 300 rpm, then 600 rpm then 1000 rpm. (both intermediate and final spins are 1000 rpm, unless a slower speed is selected.)Apart from a drain hose leak, the machine has never needed any service, and still works like new, apart from some groaning noises from the suspension when agitating. When the agitator reverses, it does so instantly so the drum rocks/twitches in the opposite direction, giving the suspension a bit of a workout.
Chris.
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst?.dir=/F%26P+Gentle+Annie&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst%3f%26.dir=/F%2526P%2bGentle%2bAnnie%26.src=ph%26.view=t&.view=t
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Post# 28024-3/24/2003-22:38 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
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Just for you Arrrooohhh
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh.
I remember a while ago You mentioned you liked the old Simpson 144's with the big rocker switches for water temp, level and suds save.
I saw one on the scrap heap at Simsmetal, and happened to have my camera... (It might have only been the top panel, I can't remember.)
Chris.
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst?.dir=/Simpson+144&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst%3f%26.dir=/F%2526P%2bGentle%2bAnnie%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28025-3/24/2003-22:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
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RE: Mid 1980s Whirlpool Imperial Seventy (WHIRLY!)
MESSAGE: My Mom used to do the warm-warm & perm press combo on the Kenmore 800 too. Drove me nuts!!!
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Post# 28026-3/24/2003-22:54 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
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RE: F&P Gentle Annie
MESSAGE: Thanks, dude! Very cool. Can you email larger versions of the pictures to me (addy in Appville profile)? Yahoo shrinks them down for the freebie photo albums.
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Post# 28027-3/24/2003-23:11 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
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RE: Thor Automagic Sink (Vintage Consumer Articles report on the non-sink version of this machine.)
MESSAGE: A couple of recent PODs were for a top loading tumble action washer called Launderall. To say that I was intrigued by its unusual design would be an understatement. I had lots of time on my hands today, because I had some work done on my apartment. While I was waiting, I decided to go through the vintage consumer articles on this site to see if I could find anything about these fascinating machines. I guessed from the model's hairstyle and clothing that these machines were from the late 1940's, so I decided to start with the March 1947 issue of Consumer Research. Bingo! They not only reported on it (it was not the most perfect machine tested), they also had a picture of it. (Like the Bendix had to be bolted to the floor.) But wait, it gets better! They also tested the non-sink version of the Thor washer/dishwasher combo. (They didn't report on its dishwashing capabilites!) It was a semi-automatic spinner type machine. I'm guessing that the user had to manipulate the controls to start and stop the wash/rinse fills and to switch between agitate and spin. I then checked out the October 1947 issue of Consumer Reports. They also tested both the Launderall (again, it was not the most perfect machine tested)and the Thor washer/dishwasher combo. Consumer Reports noted the the Thor got clothes cleaner then the tested automatics and that it was more convenient then other spinner type machines because the user didn't have to handle the clothes between the intial loading and rinsing. They also didn't report on its dishwashing capabilites.(BTW, according to CR the Automagic sink/dishwasher/washer cost $389.50, the non-sink version cost $199.50 for the washer, and an extra $69.95 for the dishwasher attachment. They also reported that the Launderall $299.50.) I've read the vintage articles before, but this was the first time that I was on a quest for a report on a specific model. Talk about fascinating reading! :-)
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Post# 28028-3/25/2003-00:18 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
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Mamies Matag's a reply from the winner!
MESSAGE: I e-mailed the winner of the Maytags and this was his reply! The winners seem to be VERY interesting folks! Hi Mark:
We are virtually neighbors by the way--I grew up in the St. Petersburg area and now live just south of Sarasota in Nokomis.
Sorry about the last minute bid, but I guess my wife and I decided we wanted them pretty bad. By the way, I was going to go $1200, but at the last minute I decided that I would go $1051.55, so you were close. We are not collectors per se, but we bought this 1959 house in Nokomis that is mostly well preserved and original. It has excellent terrazzo, the original turquoise Fridgidaire built in oven and cooktop, and almost perfect original bathroom fixtures and tile in American Standard Ming Green. So we decided we wanted to go with the retro/museum approach to the house. We really need a turquoise Fridgidaire dishwasher, and a 1958 or 1959 Fridgidaire refridgerator in turquoise if they made it. but those refridgerators if you can find them are a fortune, especially restored. So we saw the Maytags and figured that would be good for the laundry room and a nice change from the turquoise in the kitchen.
Of course I was hoping your bid was a lot lower, and I see the next highest was $650, so if not for you I would have paid $660. So I have two questions for you, one is how many washers and dryers can you really collect? and the other is were you going to drive to NY to get these things since I guess that is what I am going to do.
Greg Nelson
ps-once before I bid on 1950's stuff--furniture in Michigan. My wife talked me into bidding way lower than I really wanted to because of the drive. I lost to the Eisenhower Library/Museum and now it is in the newly renovated Americana wing. They got it for a song and I will never really know, but I think I would have won, so I'm still sick about it and I decided not to make that mistake again.
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Post# 28029-3/25/2003-01:33 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
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RE: Mamies Matags ((HELP))
MESSAGE: Sorry for being so dense, but could you add the ebay link to this pair so I would know what you guys are talking about?
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Post# 28030-3/25/2003-02:35 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
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RE: Guess what I found on the nature strip??? (Green with Envy!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris
What a fab surprise, those finds are always the best when its not expected, especially this one, years the guys here have been looking for years and yourself and Louis are the only ones to come across them....Make sure you take plenty of pics of the inside and underneath, we`ve only seen brochures and a duffed up one on the "The Secret Life of Washers" tape....
Had a find myself last week One of the LAST Hotpoint Timelines ever made 1978...just fitting a new clutch,
Happy Hunting,
Mike
p.s.Just gonna give the Simpson Delta a whirl in honour of the "Keymatic" find...
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Post# 28031-3/25/2003-02:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
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RE: Guess what I found on the nature strip???
MESSAGE: Congratulations! I'm dying to see some pictures! I guess you are going to attend barbecues in order to find a motor for it..?
Louis
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Post# 28032-3/25/2003-02:40 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
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POD...Greens The Colour!!!
MESSAGE: This is a new one, never seen these before, has anyone in the club got them????
First glance I thought the washer looked like our Creda Eye Level grill cookers that where made in the same colours and also poppy, cornflower blue and brown...
Cookers and Kenwood Chefs here have been colourful, classic washers always white...
Mike
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Post# 28033-3/25/2003-04:54 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
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RE: Mid 1980s Whirlpool Imperial Seventy (WHIRLY!)
MESSAGE: Bob, I guess mom never took the time to read the instruction on the lid for the permanent press cycle and just wanted to to use that cool-down portion of the cycle to do a pre-rinse before the deep rinse cycle.
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Post# 28034-3/25/2003-05:03 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
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RE: Just for you Arrrooohhh (Thanx)
MESSAGE: Thanx for the thought!
Oneday maybe someone will find a nice one intact that can be restored! I saw one a while ago in one of may favourote corner stores in my area where one can by a litre of milk of a loaf of bread and a bird cage or lounge setting while you are at it :)
Thay had one of these model Simpsons, beautiful clean condition for sale $190 but nowhere to put it, esp as Mum and Dad are starting to get ready to sell...
What made me smile was the shop keeper was trying to tell me that the 90's Riverera Simpson with the black control panel was a much better buy!
What did others think of that glimpse of beauty?
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Post# 28035-3/25/2003-05:05 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
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RE: F&P Gentle Annie
MESSAGE: I like the agitator on the GA much more that what is currently offered in the Smart Drive.
WHy cant F & P update there agitator design? Like our stateside friends and the DAA I am sick of seeing this agitator
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Post# 28036-3/25/2003-05:06 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
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RE: Guess what I found on the nature strip??? (YAY!)
MESSAGE: YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cant wait for pictures!
What a find!
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Post# 28037-3/25/2003-05:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
POD WOW!
MESSAGE: Does anyone in the club own one of these machines? Those Frigidaires with the built in closet must be rare.
Of course... the color is GrOoVy!
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Post# 28038-3/25/2003-06:18 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
3-25-03 POD
MESSAGE: Like Jason said, WOW!
Thanks Steve for that Picture!
Did that model ever come out? I noticed in the ad that they were not out yet, but a model.
That is a wild looking pair. I am sure that short people would not have liked them too much since the controls were so high. I guess it was a good idea for laundry rooms with limited space.
I remember car ads during this period that would show models that really never made it to the dealer showroom. I guess it was a gimmick to get you to come in to the dealer. I am wondering if they did this with appliances also?
Brent
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Post# 28039-3/25/2003-06:29 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
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RE: F&P Gentle Annie
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh
I agree with you, the agitator in the GA is a bit special. The first time I ever saw them (new) I liked the look of that agitator. It is very "geometric" with its three triangular fins. It looks "neat". The centre post isn't as wide as the Smart Drive ones, as you don't have to fit your hand down inside to undo the wing nut. In fact I have never been able to figure out how to remove a Gentle Annie agitator, there is no bolt or nut in the centre and it doesn't appear to pull off a spline either. Maybe it is moulded onto the agitator shaft??
Chris.
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Post# 28040-3/25/2003-06:34 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
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RE: Mamies Matags ((HELP))
MESSAGE: OK. I got it.....
The subject strayed somewhat away from the original posting that I got lost, but thanks to the washing machine gods,"I FOUND IT!"
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2313280111&category=20714
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Post# 28041-3/25/2003-06:35 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
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RE: Guess what I found on the nature strip???
MESSAGE: hee hee!
Woudn't I be popular, running off with the spit motor to put it back into some funny old washing machine.
Chris
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Post# 28042-3/25/2003-07:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Guess what I found on the nature strip???
MESSAGE: Very cool find - can't wait to see the pics. Am I correct in thinking this was the model that had the "cards" that were changed for different cycles? The slant-front machines are some of the most vintage looking of all the oldies, hopefully you'll find a motor soon and can give it a whirl!
Congrats again - Greg
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Post# 28043-3/25/2003-07:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: Mamies Matag's a reply from the winner!
MESSAGE: Their house sounds very neat - I love terrazzo floors, especially combined with pink and turquoise!
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Post# 28044-3/25/2003-07:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
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RE: 3-25-03 POD ("
X"
Models)
MESSAGE: This was a variable speed washer - infinitely selectable wash and spin speeds. Inside the cabinet on the left side were dispensers for detergent and fabric softener. Peter found one of these mechanisms with the variable speed clutch out on the SD farm although the machine he found was missing the top. The cabinet models did make it to market, but the clutch unit in the variable speed machines (designated with an X in the model number, also available in a standard washer sans cabinet) was frought with trouble and didn't last in production very long. I think these came out in late '68 and were gone by '70 when the 1-18 line was released.
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Post# 28045-3/25/2003-10:01 ||| BRENT-AUCOIN (Atlanta, Georgia)
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RE: 3-25-03 POD (THANKS GREG!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
That is very interesting about the dispensers. I would have never thought about the dispensers being in the cabinet.
Also about the clutch. Was there a reason why they designed the X models with a clutch? I would think that it would have worked with a slower second speed on the motor for a delicate cycle. (2 - speed motor) Am I missing out on the reason for a clutch?
Brent
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Post# 28046-3/25/2003-10:50 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
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POD 3/25
MESSAGE: Really great machines. Must've been TOL, eh? I hadn't heard about them until recently- probably not many were made. I'll look forward to seeing one of those Frigi's run at some point in the future. Gotta hit the gym. Adios for now...
Duane
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Post# 28047-3/25/2003-11:13 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
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RE: 3-25-03 POD (THANKS GREG!)
MESSAGE: Brent,
I bet we find one of these here in the area. Atlanta is a TOL town! WXN and WEG (the 1-18 with rapid advance timer like Jimmy found) are out there waiting for us...
Maybe "variable" is the wrong word. "Infinite" might be better...
In order for the user to have infinite agitation and spin speeds, the machine needed a infinite speed clutch measuring the motor RPM's and adapting the mechanism RPM's to the user's setting. I don't think the motor was 2 speed (Greg?)...
All they were missing on this machine was infinite water temp! This machine also had infinite water level with a metered filling system (10 parts of water go into the tub, 1 part of water deflected to a special reservoir with a pressure switch).
-ph
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Post# 28048-3/25/2003-11:41 ||| BRENT-AUCOIN (Atlanta, Georgia)
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RE: 3-25-03 POD (THANKS GREG! I BET YOU FIND ONE!)
MESSAGE: Peter,
I bet that you find one of these before I do! You have your connections! : )
Did you see statistics on model numbers with an "X" being sold more here? That is very interesting. Interesting in the fact of me wondering if these are all now crushed, or were they that good that they are still running in homes.
Also, the way that you described the "infinite" speeds, makes sense to me for the clutch. I guess with the new "Infinite" speed motors in front loaders today, this baby would not have needed a clutch.
Thanks for the info.
Let me know when you find me a "X" model. : )
Brent
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Post# 28049-3/25/2003-12:30 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
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RE: POD WOW! (Jason)
MESSAGE: Yep....... couldn't have said it better myself. I have been part of this club for about two or three years or so, and all of the time I have seen a lot of vintage Frigidaires. But none like these. These machines got the cabinets right on top of them.
Do you think that is where Sears (or Whirlpool might be a better answer) got the idea from when came out with the bottom mount pedestals for the HT3 pair.
I do have to wonder if these were TOL Frigidaires or not. Maybe "Uni" or "Scott" (since I find them to be the Frigidaire experts here) can enlighten us.
--Charles--
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Post# 28050-3/25/2003-12:33 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: 3-25-03 POD (Re: Machines actually did "
come out"
)
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friends, Yes, these Machines did come out and I saw them in the Summer of 1968, when my Father and I want on one of our Vacation Travels together up along the California Coast. We would go to Mendocino/Fort Bragg area and there was a Department Store in Fort Bragg that only sold Frigidaire Appliances. The Washer sold there for $348.88 and the Electric Dryer sold for $238.88 plus Tax. "What a Deal" for these days, huh? The Advertisement was in a June 14, 1968 Life Magazine. I also saw my First "1-18" Frigidaire Washer and Dryer Models at that same Department Store when they "came out" too. I contacted Frigidaire with a concern about the Washer Basket in the "1-18", because they originally had a seam strip running vertically, like as if the Basket was molded in the length needed to shape it and then rounded and put together with the seam strip. I let Frigidaire know that I carefully ran my hand across the seam and that it felt like it could snag Laundry and rip items. Within a short time they contacted me back and thanked me for my input and they changed the design of the Basket to a 1-piece molded design.
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Post# 28051-3/25/2003-12:56 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD WOW! (pedestal)
MESSAGE: I think WP got the idea for pedestals from all the American complaining about having to bend over to load/unload a FL washer! It would be nice to say they got the idea instead from Westinghouse, which made a FL washer with a pedestal drawer built right in.
Yes, this was the TOL 1968 machine. The next one down from the High Fashion was a regular console machine with the variable controls. Greg did have a scan of the Tech-Talk in one of his albums, but I can't find it...
-ph
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Post# 28052-3/25/2003-13:17 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD WOW! (Pedestal Base with Drawers:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friends, I remember the Westhinghouse Machines your talking about. They called them the "Higher Dryer" and the "Taller Washer." Thanks for the memory, I had forgotten about them and it sounds more logical about that idea being copied for the new Front-Loader Machine units being Manufactured these days.
My best to you always, Steve
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Post# 28053-3/25/2003-13:21 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD WOW! (pedestal)
MESSAGE: Peter, Tom Turbo's family (in Atlanta no less) had one of the non-cabinet variable speed machines in their home for a very short time.
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Post# 28054-3/25/2003-13:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: 3-25-03 POD (Re: Machines actually did )
MESSAGE: What fun that you played a part in the history of the 1-18! :-)
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Post# 28055-3/25/2003-13:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Frigidaire Motionizer Motor
MESSAGE: Here is an interesting item on Ebay, says its to power Frigidaire window displays...I wonder what sort of window display it was for?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2518409503&category=26226
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Post# 28056-3/25/2003-13:33 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
What all the fashionable "Horsewives" washed their blankets in!
MESSAGE: I actually remember this ad, though I didn't know it was quite this old; I thought it had come out during the 1-18 time. Not a very good picture here, but it shows a '57 control tower unimatic in a horse barn being used for horse blankets, apparently because the housewife purchased a new Frigidaire with a permanent press cycle. (Of course those of us who have been fortunate enough to see a unimatic in operation, know that such a cycle is not really necessary, but...)
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3600764500&category=35
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Post# 28057-3/25/2003-15:12 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire Motionizer Motor
MESSAGE: Twirling Christmas trees probably...
-ph
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Post# 28058-3/25/2003-15:19 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Mamies Matags (Mamies Maytags)
MESSAGE: How much did they go for?. I could not find it on Ebay.
As you said, I think that this person may be interested in classics also.
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Post# 28059-3/25/2003-15:29 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: 3-25-03 POD (3-25-03 POD )
MESSAGE: I loved the designs of these Tall cabinet Frig models
I wish they made the 1/18's like them
Peter
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Post# 28060-3/25/2003-15:36 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Guess what I found on the nature strip???
MESSAGE: Hi Greg.
Yes, this is the type with "cards".
It is called a "keyplate", hence the name "Keymatic".
The keyplate is bakelite, about 4 inches square and about 1/2 inch thick, with notches cut out of each edge. A series of fingers inside the keyplate slot in the control panel "read" the notches to set the programs. There are no electrical connections in the keyplate, it is all done with raises bumps and notches. The fingers are connnected to switch contacts. As it has four sides and can go in either way up, there are eight programs on a keyplate. Machines were supplied with two plates, a black one for use with cold supply only, and a red one for connection to hot and cold water. A claimed feature was that new programs could be developed by Hoover to suit newly developed fabrics into the future and owners could "upgrade" their machine by purchasing a new keyplate. In fact this only happened once, when a keyplate with a cold wash option came out to coincide with the release of cold water detergents. Before that all washes had a heated phase, as the Keymatic has a 2400 watt heating element. This keyplate also gave a "heavy soil" option - I don't know what it did for that.
The wash phase is very short, eight minutes for all delicate/gentle programs and only four minutes for normal/cotton programs, which simultaneously tumbled and "pulsated" (whirling impeller). The machine alternately tumbled and heated until the programmed temperature was reached, then advanced to the "wash" phase for its four or eight minute wash. As the cold water wash skipped the heating phase, it had a very short wash, not exactly what you'd want with cold water...
Chris.
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Post# 28061-3/25/2003-15:41 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: 3-25-03 POD
MESSAGE: I have pictures of the Cabinet style and the Regular style "X" models in a Parts book for 68'. The info. in this section reffers to the "X" model being out in 67' but maybe due to production delays or last minute changes to the line they did not come out till 68'.
They would be THE Ultimate Frigidaires if someone in the club found these!.
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Post# 28062-3/25/2003-15:48 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD WOW! (Jason)
MESSAGE: If I am not mistaken, these Frigidaires were TOL at the time, especially with the variable speed clutch, lighted consoles, and dispensers. According to John L. in MD he said they were also expensive and the chances are they did not sell many of them. Who knows, we may never see any of these, only in pictures, how sad.
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Post# 28063-3/25/2003-16:25 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: 3-25-03 POD
MESSAGE: "Calypso Bruce":
The "ULTIMATE" Frigidaires?!?!?!?!!
Yep!!!!!!!!!!!! I would say so. If there is a Frigidaire laundry pair that qualifies for the "ULTIMATE" designation, it would definitely be these.
I sure would like me a pair of these babies. A Lady Kenmore doesn't have anything on these beauties. A Lady Kenmore looks like a Plain Jane by comparison.
--Charles--
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Post# 28064-3/25/2003-17:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: 3-25-03 POD
MESSAGE: The variable speed model WXL was introduced in '67 but the cabinet model WXP came out in 69 along with two other variable speed washers.
There were also two other standard models, WCDXN and the WXN which had a Lint-Away Rinse lamp on the control panel! All three 1969 models had modified mounting and construction of the clutch unit from the previous WXL (67) model.
I think I said the storage cabinet model WXP had detergent and fab softener dispensers earlier, should have said bleach and softener dispensers.
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Post# 28065-3/25/2003-17:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD WOW! (Jason)
MESSAGE: There were "Custom Imperial" (historically the TOL designation for Frigidaire appliances from 1958 - 70's) models for 67 ("L" line) and 68-69 ("N" line) but since these featured the variable speed options, they would have been right up there with the TOL models - and cost as much if not more.
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Post# 28066-3/25/2003-17:54 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD WOW! (WOW is right!)
MESSAGE: OMG! What handsome machines. I wonder if they were deeper then the traditional washer? You would think that you would need some extra space, towards the rear, to accomodate the cabinet. It was nice to see that they included a pic of a Jetcone in the ad.
Thanks for sharing!
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Post# 28067-3/25/2003-19:03 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: Just want to let everyone know I linked some pics of some of my Classics. More to come.
Enjoy,
Bruce
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/calypsobruce/lst?&.dir=/&.src=ph&.view=t&start=1&.rand=325225712182
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Post# 28068-3/25/2003-19:04 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: What all the fashionable "Horsewives" washed their blankets in! (Re: Horse Blanket Frigidaire Washer Ad: )
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Friends, I also happen to have that very same Ad and some other Ads, showing some ideas for Basement Laundries, I will share with the "POD's" as well. This has been fun being able to share the old Ads like this to bring out the "Remember When" of Appliances. There is also a Kitchen Ad, showing one of the first "Skini-Mini's" in a corner of the Kitchen.
Best always, Steve
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Post# 28069-3/25/2003-19:05 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: I also am under the Member Links section.
Cheers
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Post# 28070-3/25/2003-19:12 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD WOW! (Jason, "
POD"
Price:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Jason and others, read my #28050 Post, I mentioned about the Price at that time near me for both the Cabinet Frigidaire Washer and Dryer's.
Best always, Steve
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Post# 28071-3/25/2003-19:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: Those are some great machines Bruce! Thanks for posting the pictures. I really like that Lady in coppertone. That is the last revision of that machine, where they changed the timer from the plastic disk to this type. Do you know, did that machine come with that agitator, or would it have come originally with the Variflex?
That is a very nice wringer too! Have you ever done a wash in it?
Scott
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Post# 28072-3/25/2003-19:25 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: Hi Scott,
The Lady came with the Penta Swirl. Kenmore had gone to the super capacity tub which would not allow the Vari-Flex, although you could put one in it to play with. The water level would be high on the post though. I am trying to find one to play with. I currently have a Whirpool Double Duty Surgilator in it. It gives more action in my opinion because of the upper vanes and more suds. Fun.
Yes, I have used the wringer many times. I love the Roto-Swirl agitator. It really moves the clothes and creates lots-o-suds. It is a fun machine but there is manual labor with it. It is fun .
Thanks,
Bruce
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Post# 28073-3/25/2003-19:29 ||| Imperial70 (Mass)
SUBJECT:
RE: Mid 1980s Whirlpool Imperial Seventy
MESSAGE: That's the one. Everything the same. Even that pleasant "ghost" sound. That tub and agitator design cleaned anything. No lost buttons, clothes lasted forever. What a nut I was to let that go. Thank you for the memories!
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Post# 28074-3/25/2003-19:33 ||| Imperial70 (Mass)
SUBJECT:
RE: Mid 1980s Whirlpool Imperial Seventy (Whirlpool Imperial-70 Washer Agitator:)
MESSAGE: I never had a problem with this agitator. (Oh you are right, some things would hide from time to time) But on a low water setting, those fins at the bottom would provide handwash care on the knits/gentle cycle. Never lost any garments to tearing.
Now my 97 Kenmore with the auger and beater bar at the base, that's a different story.
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Post# 28075-3/25/2003-19:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: Thanks Bruce, I didn't realize this particular Lady had a larger tub. That would have been another revision they'd made to that model. Do you know if those big button Ladies were ever offered as suds saver models?
Though I haven't used wringers too many times, I think Sears has some of the nicer ones. They have that automatic timer and the open top safety wringer. I think they would be handy if you had a big family or had company and had a lot of linens and towels to do, you can get a lot out in a short period of time. Greg has one in Omaha and if I'm good hopefully he'll let me use it when I visit. ;-)
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Post# 28076-3/25/2003-20:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: What all the fashionable "Horsewives" washed their blankets in!
MESSAGE: This was the ad that I was talking about a while back - I remember this ad and loved the washer pictured! Can't see it too well, so will have to wait until it comes (hopefully) to see what model it really was.
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Post# 28077-3/25/2003-20:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: Of course you can use it!! I've got it "displayed" in the spare bedroom now for lack of room anywhere else, so you'll be able to have "Kenmore Dreams" too...
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Post# 28078-3/25/2003-20:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: I love it! ;-)
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Post# 28079-3/25/2003-21:06 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: Bruce,
What great pix! I can't believe I had to grow up with GE americanas. What were my parents thinking?!
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Post# 28080-3/25/2003-21:17 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: Bruce! That Kenmore looks GREAT in your basement! .....and those Frigidaires..ooooooooooo and matched sets at that........and oh...the GE lighted control dryer.ooooohhhhh!
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Post# 28081-3/25/2003-21:18 ||| electrophobia (NOLA)
SUBJECT:
POD green Frigidaire with storage.
MESSAGE: What a cool pic, Sacto this pic would be a 1-18? very nice. anyone here have one of these jewels?
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Post# 28082-3/25/2003-21:23 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
shipping washing machines
MESSAGE: Can anyone advise me on the best way,and with the least hassle,to have a washing machine packed and shipped from South Carolina to Indiana? I seem to be getting nowhere. What methods are available? Seems like whoever ships won't pack it. I thought it would be simpler..
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Post# 28083-3/25/2003-21:28 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (collection photos)
MESSAGE: Thank you,great photos! The matched set in harvest gold 1-18 reminds me of my old one,Can't believe I was dumb enough to trade it in on my Maytag ):
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Post# 28084-3/25/2003-22:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: shipping washing machines
MESSAGE: Does Craters and Freighters serve that area? I know a number of folks here have done well with them in the past, where they come and get the machine all ready and take it for delivery.
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Post# 28085-3/25/2003-22:14 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (Wonderful Pics)
MESSAGE: Thanks for sharing, Bruce. I'm especially envious of all those Fridgidaires and that GE range. (I just love GE ranges with push button controls.) Does it have two ovens? Is them a P-7 self-cleaner? I thought that I spotted an oven locking level.
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Post# 28086-3/25/2003-22:38 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (Older Frigidaire Washer:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Bruce, those are great Pix's. I've never seen one of those Models of Frigidaire Washer's before. I'm having some trouble with my Brightness on my Monitor, so the interior view isn't as clear as it should be. Is that one of the first Lower Rubber and Upper Plastic Pulsator's, after the Metal original Pulsator's?
Best always, Steve
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Post# 28087-3/25/2003-23:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: More to come?? This is a great collection - I'd forgotten about the '60 Frigidaire and the GE range, you've been very busy as well! And the Lady Kenmores coming... Isn't there a GE washer and a Flair range too?
Thanks for the pics Bruce!
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Post# 28088-3/25/2003-23:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: What all the fashionable "Horsewives" washed their blankets in!
MESSAGE: Yup, as long as I could have a cool or cold rinse in a unimatic, I'd have an all-fabric washer. I'm glad I got to see this ad, never had before.
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Post# 28089-3/25/2003-23:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: POD WOW! (Jason)
MESSAGE: I actually got to see a real set of these in the Texas State Fair Frigidaire Pavilion in 1969 or 1968. I'll never forget it. I was so impressed with the variable speed, but I remember the speed control was one knohb, didn't have separate knob for spin & wash speeds though (: And Jason, they were this avocado.
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Post# 28090-3/26/2003-00:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: Bruce, I particularly love the 75 LK wqith penta-swirl, hadn't seen that design since I was in college at the time. And of course, LOved the Frigidaires, all of them.
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Post# 28091-3/26/2003-00:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Mid 1980s Whirlpool Imperial Seventy (Whirlpool Imperial-70 Washer Agitator:)
MESSAGE: See!!! ANother Shredmore!!!
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Post# 28092-3/26/2003-05:13 ||| drmitch (West Tennessee)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (GREAT FINDS!)
MESSAGE: Gee Bruce you hit a goldmine! I love the 66 GE range, it looks brand new! And the 66 GE dryer just like the set my mom had I rember playing on it,But the greatest has to be the 66 Frigidaire combo (INCREDIBLE FIND)! Congrats Bruce!
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Post# 28093-3/26/2003-05:30 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: Hi Scott,
Yes, The Lady's in the 70's did come as suds-saver models but I do not know when they stopped them, I would like to say mid-70's but not sure. John L. in MD has one from 1971 that he uses.
The wringer is fun to use, it is a 2 speed model. I wish it had the chrome drain boards like Greg's. What I do with mine is use it to save the suds from the Lady K and wash 3 loads in about a 1/2 hour. Then I rinse one load in the Kenmore and pump back the rinse water into the Wringer then rinse the rest. I only use the rinse water twice depending on what I am washing. Then I spray rinse in the Lady to finish.
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Post# 28094-3/26/2003-05:31 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: Americana's were nice machines also. Yes?
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Post# 28095-3/26/2003-05:32 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: Thanks Mark.
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Post# 28096-3/26/2003-05:33 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (collection photos)
MESSAGE: I think most of us have made judgement errors in the past also not realizing what we did.
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Post# 28097-3/26/2003-05:39 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (Wonderful Pics)
MESSAGE: Mike,
The GE Range does have two ovens. The one on the left is not a self-cleaner. The right one is with P-7 cleaning. Did you know that this range was ahead of it's time with a control board for the oven temp.? I did not know this until I spoke with my local appliance parts store. I cannot get one anymore. So far no trouble with it. I just love the styling on these.
Cheers
Bruce
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Post# 28098-3/26/2003-05:44 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (Older Frigidaire Washer:)
MESSAGE: If you are referring to the 60' Multi-Matic, the agitator is all rubber except of course for the post which is plastic. I have a new top for this machine that Jon Charles gave to me since he had one that he was parting out. The top part of the console had been smashed and the plastic and surround for the lights were missing so the new one will be put on soon.
More pics with lights soon
Bruce
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Post# 28099-3/26/2003-05:47 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg. I have to go to Mom's and put the new top on the 60' and run it through a cycle, just to keep things moving. I also have my 59' GE that has been repainted and cleaned up. I will have pics of that soon also.
Bruce
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Post# 28100-3/26/2003-05:48 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: Thanks Bob.
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Post# 28101-3/26/2003-05:54 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (GREAT FINDS!)
MESSAGE: Thank you,
The GE Dryer and the Range were purchased by an older woman at the time. The range does look like brand new. The rotisery and griddle were in the bottom drawer wrapped in paper. She also had the matching washer for the dryer because I have the receipts for them and the owners manuals. The dryer looks new also. She probably hung out her wash most of the time. It just needs new rollers, but runs fine. I hope to find the matching washer someday.
Bruce
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Post# 28102-3/26/2003-06:39 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
Bruce's New Finds
MESSAGE: Bruce, Lots of luck with the new finds. They all look great!!! I love the colors of them too, Happy Washing
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Post# 28103-3/26/2003-06:50 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: shipping washing machines (Fed Ex Freight)
MESSAGE: Check out this link for Fed Ex Freight.
It is going to be $$$$$$$$$$$$$
LINK: http://www.fedexfreight.fedex.com/rate.jsp
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Post# 28104-3/26/2003-08:18 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT:
Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance!
MESSAGE: Okay, I know that on this site this question is akin to sacrilege (not unlike being confirmed in the R.C. Church without having ever made a confession...Don't tell the Pope!). Just what is the difference between the 1-18 and the other Frigi's? Didn't all the Frigi washers since the late 50's have that "plunger" agitator like the one on the homepage? Was the 1-18 offered simultaneously with other Frigi washers? Did it have the plunger? I assume that after GM sold off Frigidaire, it meant death to the "plunger". Many here seem to desire 1-18s; what makes them so desireable?
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Post# 28105-3/26/2003-08:32 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (Finally got PICS up to share )
MESSAGE: Bruce
These are real great pics
Peter
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Post# 28106-3/26/2003-08:44 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (CHECK YOU OUT BRUCE!)
MESSAGE: Bruce,
Thanks for the pictures. You have a great basement in that house!
Your appliance collection is great!
What a way to relax!
Brent
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Post# 28107-3/26/2003-08:46 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance!
MESSAGE: A valid question. The term 1-18 refers to the Frigidaire washers from 1970 until their demise in 1979. By 1970, most washers had "18 pound" capacities. So, Frigidaire introduced their large capacity machines which could wash "from 1 piece to 18 pounds". Also, Frigidaire switched from the solid tub to the perforated tub with this new line.
Frigidaires from before 1970 all had small solid tubs. I am sure there are more detailed technical explanations out there so someone can jump in to fill the holes....
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Post# 28108-3/26/2003-09:11 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (Frigidaire 1-18s- )
MESSAGE: The actual demise of GM Frigidaire was the end of 1980
not 1979
1981 was the start of wci Frigidaire tragety
Peter
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Post# 28109-3/26/2003-09:29 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (great collection!!!)
MESSAGE: Holy Cow!!! That 1960 WCD is wonderful!!! And I have the console for the GE washer to match that GE dryer, if you want it.
-ph
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Post# 28110-3/26/2003-09:36 ||| George_a (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
Sears free standing cone shaped fireplace
MESSAGE: I have a 1970ish avacado green Sears free standing cone shaped fireplace. I need to have specific installation instructions. Does anyone know about this?
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Post# 28111-3/26/2003-09:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance!
MESSAGE: See link below for the Frigidaire washer history...
See Bruce's new pic link to look at the difference between the interior of the 1960 (Multimatic mechanism), the 1968 (Rollermatic mechanism) and the 1978 1-18 Frigidaire washers.
They are so desirable because of 1) the action, 2) great cleaning, and 3) great styling! Also, there are still lots of them around, so they can be relatively easy to find and repair.
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/wi57controltower/vwp?.dir=/History+Of+Frigidaire+Washing+Machines&.src=ph&.dnm=Washer+History+Part+1.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/wi57controltower/lst%3f%26.dir=/History%2bOf%2bFrigidaire%2bWashing%2bMachines%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28112-3/26/2003-09:42 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
Filtrator Info
MESSAGE: Was the filtator dryer an air to air condensor or did it use water?
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Post# 28113-3/26/2003-09:48 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Filtrator Info (no water here)
MESSAGE: Air to air...
-ph
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Post# 28114-3/26/2003-09:51 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance!
MESSAGE: Peter, thanks for posting that link. I had not seen it and it really helps explain the differences in the models.
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Post# 28115-3/26/2003-11:42 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (Thanks!)
MESSAGE: Peter, Angus, & Peter,
Thanks for your replies to my inquiry. The history link is really helpful. If the washers are built like the stoves(we have 2 Frigidaire ranges: a 1954 & a 1969) they were built to last.
Duane
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Post# 28116-3/26/2003-12:21 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (Wonderful Pics)
MESSAGE: Another thing I love about those ranges of that vintage is the built in meat thermometer! I wish ranges today had such great features. Do you have the probe that goes with yours? We had it on our Flair.
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Post# 28117-3/26/2003-14:39 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (Little extra info:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friends, I wanted to also add a little extra info about the difference between the original Solid Tub's and the "1-18" Washers, of the fact that the "1-18" Washers have a Recirculating Lint Filter setting under that back part of the Basket opening and it was recessed to not be in the way of loading and unloading the Laundry.
I had a Mid-80s Set and I wish I would have never gotten rid of them or our 1966 "WCDK" Washer, besides the Hotpoint, Kenmore and 1950 Westinghouse Electric Dryer we owned when I was growing up.
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Post# 28118-3/26/2003-14:49 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bruce's New Finds
MESSAGE: Thanks,
When are you coming to Boston again? I had a great time with you when we bumped into each other.
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Post# 28119-3/26/2003-14:50 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (Finally got PICS up to share )
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter,
I have many more coming.
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Post# 28120-3/26/2003-14:51 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
Norge history
MESSAGE: Does anyone have any Norge history? Did the Dispensomats follow the TimeLine? How many years were the Dispensomats in production?
-ph
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Post# 28121-3/26/2003-14:54 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (CHECK YOU OUT BRUCE!)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent,
Thanks for your approval (Your Highness) HEHEHEHE!.
I have more. Stay tuned.
I feel liberated now that I know how to post pics. YAY!
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Post# 28122-3/26/2003-14:57 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (great collection!!!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter,
I have more pics coming. I would love to find the washer for this Dryer. I would love the top but would it fit on any GE Washer? If it would than maybe I will take you up on it.
Thanks
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Post# 28123-3/26/2003-14:59 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (Wonderful Pics)
MESSAGE: Scott,
I would have to look, but I think the probe is there also.
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Post# 28124-3/26/2003-15:54 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (Little extra info Re; 1-18 Filters)
MESSAGE: Does anyone have any ideas as to how to keep these darn things from flying out of the bracket. I have tried several different ones, and they are all loose. Velcro holds it, for about 2 loads, until the sticky side of the velcro gets wet and give up. Any ideas would be great, I can't let it spin with it in place or it flies out! Don
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Post# 28125-3/26/2003-15:59 ||| todde (longbeach, IN)
SUBJECT:
Frigidaire "salesman" aggitator on E-bay
MESSAGE: Hi all you 1950' s Frigidaire Fans, I ran into this interesting item on E-bay check it out #3216153156
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Post# 28126-3/26/2003-16:44 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (Growing up with GE Americanas)
MESSAGE: At least you grew up a washer and dryer! Seems like half my childhood was spent in laundromats. The only people in my family who had washers were my great aunt on my Father's side (Kelvinator, later replaced by a Kenmore) and Grandmother on my Mother's side (GE). As for dryers, HA! That's a laugh! And we weren't paticularly poor, everyone could have well afforded a washer and dryer.
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Post# 28127-3/26/2003-16:46 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: shipping washing machines (shipping a washer)
MESSAGE: You'd have to call a packing company who would crate the machine up, and then the shipping company would pick it up from the packing company. Two separate operations.
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Post# 28128-3/26/2003-16:47 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (Scott....)
MESSAGE: Hey Bruce:
May I answer this one for you???
Well Scott, that indeed was a 1975 Lady Kenmore in coppertone. And starting with this model, as well as the 1974 model, that model came with the Penta-Swirl agitator. The last Lady to have the Vari-Flex agitator was the 1973 model. The 1973 model was also the last one with a three-speed motor. Bruce's 1975 Lady has a two-speed motor. Feel free to ask him.... I think he'll confirm. If not, then I have a picture of this washer in a Sears F/W 1975 Catalog right along with the matching dryer. In that catalog, the avacodo pair was pictured.
--Charles--
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Post# 28129-3/26/2003-16:49 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: Scott:
Yep.... there was a 1975 Lady Kenmore washer with a "sud saver" feature as well.
--Charles--
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Post# 28130-3/26/2003-16:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (Frigidaire 1-18s- )
MESSAGE: Where do you get these dates Peter? I have service books from WCI starting with August of 1979 for the 1-18 imposter machines made by WCI.
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Post# 28131-3/26/2003-17:05 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (What A Collection, Bruce!!!!!)
MESSAGE: "Calyspo Bruce"
Way to go. That 1975 Lady definitely looks gorgeous in coppertone. The buttons on the panel convey with the panal cover and the color of the machine. And they offset the chrome siding of the panel very well. One thing the ask though..... and I just want a confirmation from you. Your Lady is a two speed model with the Penta-Swirl agitator, right???
And I really liked those 1966 TOL Frigidaires as well. I am so glad that you decided to take a picture of your 1966 Frigidaire actually doing the "rapidry" spin.
And what about your 1960 Frigidaire???? Was that a "rapidry" model as well??
And lastly, when are we going to see a picture of those 1965 Ladys??? And when are we going to see them in action??? I'm dying to see you do a load in those beauties. And with them being in showroom condition, they ought to work like they did when they were brand new.
--Charles--
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Post# 28132-3/26/2003-17:12 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (Frigidaire 1-18s- )
MESSAGE: I remember WCI bought Frigidaire in 1979
They stated in 1980 that changes & improvements were to be made to the designs and after the end of that year, new products were to be produced. WCI paid GM to continue to make the products for awhile. Nobody realized what they were going to do behind the scenes. As for appliance sales people I knew at the time it was thought WCI would continue to keep the GM products and make them on their own. What was happening behind the scenes people didn't realize. It wasnt until January 1981 when these new product look alikes were released. General Moters still made everything until the end of 1980. I remember specifically because myself and a few others were waiting in anticaption for these new products thinking of course everything was going to keep going Up and Down! But unfourtinatly that never happened!
Peter
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Post# 28133-3/26/2003-17:12 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (1-18)
MESSAGE: Yeah, me, too. I'd never seen a Frigidaire agitator other than the original and the Jet Cone, so the pic of the 1/18 agitator was a surprise to me.
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Post# 28134-3/26/2003-17:15 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
66 Frigidaire Custom Imperial Dryer on Ebay
MESSAGE: What a beauty...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2314537782&category=20714
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Post# 28135-3/26/2003-17:16 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (Frigidaire history on Yahoo)
MESSAGE: It's too tiny to read, and there's no option to make it bigger like there usually is.
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Post# 28136-3/26/2003-17:38 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (Control Board for Oven Temp)
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce,
Wow! I didn't know that GE stoves from that era had oven temp control boards! Talk about being ahead of the times. The look of those stoves are just a joy to behold.
Enjoy,
Mike
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Post# 28137-3/26/2003-17:41 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: 66 Frigidaire Custom Imperial Dryer on Ebay
MESSAGE: Wow! This is another one of those times that I hate living in an apartment. :-( I just love the look of that machine. It's in my favorite color too. I hope that someone from the club can give it a good home.
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Post# 28138-3/26/2003-17:47 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
Whirlpool Push button electric dryer
MESSAGE: It's bulk trash pickup day tomorrow here in Fort Lauderdale and I spotted a funny looking dryer on the way to lunch. It was an older Whirlpool dryer without a dial, it had only push-buttons. Said "solid state",no digital readout or membranes, just push buttons all the way accross the control panel. Some buttons were black and others were beige or red. There were over 10 or more buttons in total. It Was in so-so shape, the usual dents and scratches. Anyone have info about this model? It is something I can save for someone?
-Alex
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Post# 28139-3/26/2003-18:01 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer
MESSAGE: If it looks like this, then it is the first Whirlpool Solid State Electronic dryer.
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/MUSEUM/Whirlpool/Robert-Brooklyn-1983-Whirlpool-Washer/Robert-Brooklun-1983-Whirlpool-Washer-Controls.jpg
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Post# 28140-3/26/2003-18:17 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer
MESSAGE: Actually, that picture is not the first one.
Whirlpool's first electronic washer, model LFA-9800, did have touch-controls, but the matching dryer did not.
The dryer had a row of
mechanical pushbuttons that doubled for setting either the dryness level or time. A toggle switch selected the drying mode. Another set of buttons selected the temperature.
(Magic Clean -- any pictures, brochures or literature in the company archives?)
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Post# 28141-3/26/2003-18:21 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer
MESSAGE: Yes, it looks alot older than that one. Should I save her?
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Post# 28142-3/26/2003-18:23 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT:
New Gain Softener
MESSAGE: I finally got to see the new Gain fabric Softener liquid and picked up a bottle of the stuff. I was looking for the Ultra stuff like the Downy I buy but I couldnt find it. They (Walmart SuperCenter) only had the nonconcentrated formula. So I will try that on Friday when I do my wash. I did notice that the Cheer Liquid HE price dropped from 9 bucks down to 4.98 for a 20 load bottle.
I was reading in Brand Week today about Colgate trying to sell off its house care products like Ajax and Palmolive. They are going to concentrate on Dental care since thats where they are getting the most bang so far. Unilever also has the Snuggle brand up for sale too and Surf will be gone by the middle of the year with All absorbing the scents like they are now. Dial is going to be bringing back the ill fated Purex Advanced but in a different package and price point. The Idea of the Purex Advanced was to go head to head with Tide. I did like that detergent alot..so I am going to keep my eyes peeled for it.
Mike
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Post# 28143-3/26/2003-18:29 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer
MESSAGE: "Tecnopolis", "CleanteamofNY", and "DADoES":
If this dryer is like the one I am envisioning in my mind, then it probably a 1977 Whirlpool Dryer. And that one would be the VERY first one with electronic controls. The thing about this dryer was that even though, the matching washer from 1977 was in fact an "electronic" washer with electronic controls, the matching dryer (which would be the one you are talking about here) had a single long row of mechanical push-buttons on them with the toggle switch right before the push-buttons on the control panel. That was the exact model they have made for Sears a year later. The 1978 Lady Kenmore pair was designed just like the 1977 Whirlpool pair. In both cases, the dryers had the long single row of push-buttons on them with the switches on them that appeared before the push-buttons. Those dryers have match the electronic washers of both Whirlpool (1977) and Sears (the Lady Kenmore -- 1978). And in the case of the Sears dryer (ClearteamofNY), the Sears version of this dryer was also matched up with the Dual-Action Agitator Belt-Driven Lady Kenmore washer (which was actually a 1976-77 model..... but I think they were trying to phase them out in 1978, so they decided to carry the washer again for a third year) you have recently acquired.
That's what I am guessing.....
--Charles--
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Post# 28144-3/26/2003-18:29 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer
MESSAGE: I'm learning something new!
I didn't know that there was a model that supersede this one!
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Post# 28145-3/26/2003-18:32 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer (CleanteamofNY........)
MESSAGE: Actually..... in this case, the dryer I am talking about actually "PRECEEDED" the one you have just shown on your most recent link.
--Charles--
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Post# 28146-3/26/2003-18:39 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer (CleanteamofNY........)
MESSAGE: My mistake, you are right (Preceded).
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Post# 28147-3/26/2003-19:08 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT:
ola detergent
MESSAGE: Anyone ever used the OLA detergent. I ran across some in a supermarket here for $1.00 for 11 load box. It said it was imported from Indonesia. Didn't smell too bad either.
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Post# 28148-3/26/2003-19:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Frigidaire Washer History
MESSAGE: Here is a brief history of Frigidaire washers that Robert (Uni) wrote nearly 3 years ago. I posted it in my Yahoo album and you should be able to click on the small image and it will enlarge (large print edition!) for easy and enjoyable reading.
So clean, so quickly, so gently...entirely without harmful rubbing!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire&.src=ph&.dnm=Frigidaire+Washer+History.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28149-3/26/2003-19:51 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer
MESSAGE: I wish I had a picture of that first model! The one in the picture is possibly the 2nd generation, LHA-9800 model. The LFA was more colorful, and had the touchpads arranged differently, not in a linear fashion.
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Post# 28150-3/26/2003-19:53 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer
MESSAGE: Seems like a tragedy to let her go to the Krusher. Somebody, somewhere might could give her a good home. Can you at least get some pictures?
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Post# 28151-3/26/2003-21:04 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
RE: shipping washing machines (shipping a washer)
MESSAGE: Thank you for your response and advise. My niece wants to make a road trip to pick it up now,and I will pay her,and also for the cost of the trip. It's excitment to her,and I save appx. 50% as the est. I had to pack and ship was $780.00. Two guy's e-mailed me from this club to offer assistance to me to pick up and store the washer for me,until I could pick it up. What a genuine example of club fellowship! As a new member,I have much to learn from all of you.So far I am very impressed. Thanks to all!
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Post# 28152-3/26/2003-21:40 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer
MESSAGE: I agree. Although we don't know why it's sitting out with the trash, it would be a shame not to try to save it. I'm sure someone in the club would love to make a rescue attempt.
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Post# 28153-3/26/2003-22:11 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (I-18 Desirability)
MESSAGE: Also, for its era,(and even now) and 18 lb capacity washer(ergo the 1-18 label) is large and for the early 70's, HUGE capacity. They are big, noisy, and wash clothes great in a gentler fashion than a side to side agitator. I just love mine, it is so adapatable in terms of wash size(infinite) and wash and spin speed.(2) The I-18 is like the old Lincoln Contential Convertible(I know it's not GM) with suicide doors-Big,showy and different and it gets you there with unique style and boy, you really enjoy the ride.
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Post# 28154-3/26/2003-22:24 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (Little extra info Re; 1-18 Filters)
MESSAGE: How stange, my problem is trying to get mine loose of the bracket, which takes encourgement. I did order a new lint filter for my '76 that had bigger squeeze clamps than the original. I like to have two lint filters becasue they take some time to clean on the 1-18 and when you want to do the next load, nice to have a clean one on deck.
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Post# 28155-3/26/2003-22:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (Little extra info Re; 1-18 Filters)
MESSAGE: There was a repair kit for this problem, but it might be a booger finding it now. What style of filter do you have - pan or bed-of-nails? I have the pan style in mine and actually rather prefer the bed of nails style as it doesn't clog quite as easily with a load of towels or rags. I might have a sub-top for your washer, Don, let me know what kind you need/prefer.
I wouldn't use the washer with the lint filter in place unless you are standing right there to stop it if/when it falls into the tub. You can damage or break the cones of the agitator if not caught quickly.
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Post# 28156-3/26/2003-22:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (Finally got PICS up to share )
MESSAGE: Bruce, I can't wait for the upcoming pics.
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Post# 28157-3/26/2003-22:42 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer
MESSAGE: Ok, I went back to get some photos, but this was the only shot that would come out.
LINK: http://groups.msn.com/WashersandDryersArchives/shoebox.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=62
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Post# 28158-3/26/2003-22:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: 66 Frigidaire Custom Imperial Dryer on Ebay
MESSAGE: Drool, lust, & swoon!!!
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Post# 28159-3/26/2003-22:53 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer
MESSAGE: That's it!
Temp pushbuttons to the far left.
Toggle switch for timed (lower position) or sensor (upper position) drying.
Pushbuttons for dryness level (upper markings) or timed drying (lower markings).
Push-to-start button.
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Post# 28160-3/26/2003-23:10 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (Little extra info Re; 1-18 Filters)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info Greg-I have the bed of nails filter. I have tried about three filters, and they are all loose fitting. I am open to try a new outer ring, I guess in either style, my preference being the other, because this is so hard to clean.
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Post# 28161-3/26/2003-23:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer
MESSAGE: This is very similar to the one (in gas) John Lefever has on his screened porch. Didn't Kenmore have this model around the same time with black pushbuttons?
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Post# 28162-3/27/2003-01:29 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (Little extra info Re; 1-18 Filters)
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friends, the "Bed-of-Nails" type of Lint Filter that is in some of the Frigidaire "1-18" Washers, was made to be turned upside down and hit on a fairly firm surface and actually using a Paper Towel to collect the Lint on. That is what I was told when I bought mine new in the Mid-70s I wish I still had. They were the higher "MOL" set in the Avocado Green Color.
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Post# 28163-3/27/2003-01:33 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (Little extra info Re; 1-18 Filters)
MESSAGE: I just posted a soulution to the "Bed-of-Nails" Filter on the "1-18" Washers, from past experience, about turning it upside down and hitting it on a fairly hard surface and using a Paper Towel to catch the Lint. That is what I was told when I bought my set in Mid-70s. That loosens the Lint and releases the Lint from the "Nails."
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Post# 28164-3/27/2003-01:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (Little extra info Re; 1-18 Filters)
MESSAGE: When we had the Whirlpool with the bed of nails, I used to just whack it on the side of the laundry tub (right after, when the lint was wet) and it would come right off and I'd just throw it in the trash.
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Post# 28165-3/27/2003-02:34 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (Little extra info Re; 1-18 Filters)
MESSAGE: That will work too, I forgot to mention about making sure that the Lint is still wet to have it slide off the Nails without getting quite as stuck, sorry Guys...
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Post# 28166-3/27/2003-04:53 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
Frigidaire history
MESSAGE: That was very interesting reading about the different Frigidaire transmissions. Fortunately, I was able to see it on my home computer
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Post# 28167-3/27/2003-05:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Gain Softener
MESSAGE: Hi, Mike. I noticed also in my local WalMart that both the Cheer and Gain HE liquids have dropped in price - also around $4.98. But I haven't yet seen the Gain softener on the shelves in either WalMart or KMart. And of course it isn't in any of the grocery stores yet either. Haven't yet seen the Gain HE powder either and it is supposedly available everywhere.
Interesting news about Colgate selling the Home and Fabric Care brands. I am not surprised. Our supermarkets haven't carried any Fab or Ajax detergent for the past several months. The only place you can even find the liquids would be the small independent "IGA" stores. Even WalMart and KMart no longer carry them. And of course you know that I refer to liquids only - the powders have not been distributed here for years. I guess it's time to start stocking up on Fab powder form "buyitbythecase.com"
As far as Lever goes, since they are killing the Surf brand little by little anyway, they might as well just finish it off once and for all. They have already altered the formula by removing the enzymes so now it has the "remarkable All stainlifters" - what a waste. But I did like the Surf tablets - purple fragrance only!! Sad, killing a perfectly fine brand - much like they did with Rinso. Took a high performing brand, did no advertising, altered the formula until it was nothing more than filler in a box and sold it at a ridiculously low price. Sounds like a great formula for success.
I occasionally run into a stray bottle of Purex Advanced in those dollar discount stores. I liked both the liquid and powder versions - worked well and smelled fine. If I remember wasn't that a joint venture with Purex/Dial and a European manufacturer that went bad shortly after introducing the product? Now if they would only re introduce Instant Fels Soap Granules............
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Post# 28168-3/27/2003-05:27 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: ola detergent
MESSAGE: In the way of unusual detergents I recently saw something called "Alin" in of the Latin supermarkets in the next town over. Looked like a regular not an ultra powder and was $1.19 for a 2 pound box - haven't tried it yet - can't tell what's in it since it's all in Spanish and is actually made in Spain - not Mexico or Puerto Rico...
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Post# 28169-3/27/2003-05:36 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Norge history
MESSAGE: Hi, Peter - as I remember the Timeline models were introduced in 1951 or 1952 and continued through 1957 or 1958. The Dispensomat was introduced in 1958 and existed in some form probably through 1965. I say this because there is a POD for Tide featuring a Norge 15 and if you look closely at the control panel, the script says Dispensomat Washer. After 1965 I am not sure - but it wasn't long after that Borg Warner sold Norge to Fedders. I am sure someone else can be a bit more exact with the dates, though.....
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Post# 28170-3/27/2003-05:48 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (Scott....)
MESSAGE: Charles,
You are correct. My Lady is a 2-speed. I did not know what year the Super Capacity tub came out in the Kenmore's though.
Thanks
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Post# 28171-3/27/2003-05:55 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (What A Collection, Bruce!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Charles,
The 75' Lady is a 2-speed. I guess they did away with the 3-speed motor in 73' 74'.
The 1960' Custom Deluxe you saw in my pics. is not a Rapidry. At that time they did not have 1000 rpm spin. My machine I believe is 710 rpm and the CI for that year I think was 800 rpm. There are others in this club who could be more specific. I have a new top, console, and wiring harness that I will put on soon and will have more pics with the light on.
Bruce
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Post# 28172-3/27/2003-06:03 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Frigidaire 1-18s- Pardon My Ignorance! (Little extra info Re; 1-18 Filters)
MESSAGE: That's how I clean mine also. It works well.
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Post# 28173-3/27/2003-06:57 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Bruce's New Finds
MESSAGE: When the weather gets warmer, we will have to make a spring trip, and hopefully get to see you. I will be in touch if we do
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Post# 28174-3/27/2003-07:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New Gain Softener (Fab vs. Purex)
MESSAGE: Uh oh. I've been using Fab powder for about 2 years and really liked it. I recently bought a bottle of Purex liquid and I think I'm having a slight reaction to it (a bit of itching and rash), so I'll have to go back to Fab. If Fab becomes unavailable, I think I used Arm & Hammer before that. Yikes!!!
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Post# 28175-3/27/2003-07:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (What A Collection, Bruce!!!!!)
MESSAGE: Bruce, actually the CI and Imperials for 1959 & 1960 spin speed was 850 rpm, otherwise you're correct with 710.
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Post# 28176-3/27/2003-07:28 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer
MESSAGE: I've never seen this model before.....
I guess mom and dad rushed us (4kids) through Sears so fast during clothes shopping for school that this past my young tender appliance prying eyes!
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Post# 28177-3/27/2003-07:42 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share
MESSAGE: Bruce,
I must say you have an impressive collection!
I hope to find such treasures here in Bklyn. NY and a nice place to store them than a grimy old dark and dreary basement.
Thanks for the photos and I can't wait to see the rest!
Larry
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Post# 28178-3/27/2003-10:57 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (Love the 442)
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce,
The 442 is a beauty =) My dream car cept I'd like the convertible but we can all dream =) Did you do the restoration yourself?
~Steven
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Post# 28179-3/27/2003-11:14 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
TODAY'S POD LIVE WATER ACTION???
MESSAGE: OK, what's with Westinghouse advertising their "computer" controlled washer with LIVE WATER WASHING ACTION and Multi-speed revolving agitator that gets clothes cleaner than ever!...and an automatic lint ejector that sweeps away every trace of lint and scum??? I would have thought that Frigidaire would have had a few things to say about that ad. Sine when did a tumbler drum qualify as a "multi speed agitator" in a washer?Mark
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Post# 28180-3/27/2003-11:55 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
No Phosphate Calgon
MESSAGE: Well, it finally happened here - Calgon Water Conditioner no longer contains phosphates at all. I was in both Stop& Shop and KMart today and the boxes now state - "contains no added phosphates. For years, they distributed different formulas to different areas but I guess Benckiser Products decided to just make one formula of Calgon. I can't even find any older boxes to snap up! What next!!
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Post# 28181-3/27/2003-12:26 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer (Tecnopolis -- 1977 Whirlpool Push-Button Electronic Dryer)
MESSAGE: "Tecnopolis":
Just saw the link in your last post, and:
YEP!!!!!! THAT'S THE ONE!!!!!!!
--Charles--
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Post# 28182-3/27/2003-12:34 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer (Gansky1)
MESSAGE: "Gansky":
Yes, Sears has marketed a similar model the next year. That would be the 1978 Lady Kenmore Dryer. They have made that one to be pair with both, the Lady Kenmore Electronic Washer with Electronic Controls (which by the way, was the first Lady Kenmore with Electronic Controls), and the 1976-77 [Carried Over] Model with Mechanical Controls.
And concerning the 1976-77 Lady Kenmore Washer with Mechanical Controls, I think that "CleanteamofNY" has this washer. Now, if he doesn't find a matching 1976-77 Lady Kenmore Dryer to go with his washer, if he should happen to find a 1978 Lady Kenmore All Push-Button Dryer in coppertone, then that dryer could be pair up with his washer as well.
--Charles--
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Post# 28183-3/27/2003-13:03 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Whirlpool Push button electric dryer (Gansky1)
MESSAGE: Charles,
I do not own that Whirlpool yet, the photo was taken from the appliance cyber museum. There was a pair on sale on eBay a few months ago and if they were near NY, I would have placed a bid on them. So......., I will have to wait until that day happens.....
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Post# 28184-3/27/2003-13:21 ||| programcomputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT:
Today's POD
MESSAGE: Just saw todays POD and about died. I love the Program Computer Laundromat and Dryer. I had searched for adverts for Westinghouse Laundromats in the late 1950's and came up with TWO, BOTH in Better Homes and Gardens. Both were for the Program Computer but both had a somewhat Different advertising layoutfor each.
I looked and searched twice for 1958 Laundromat advertising but have never found any....Must be Westinghouse had spend all their advertising budget supporting the Westinghouse DesiLu Playhouse for that year.
Oh well great picture anyway
Chad Schieberl
P.S. If anyone knows where I can pick up a 1960's Laundromat with a SLANT front....Please contact me @ (517)-627-9541..Thanks Again
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Post# 28185-3/27/2003-14:13 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD LIVE WATER ACTION???
MESSAGE: I kinda wonder if this machine does not have the slant tub, but rather a horizontal tub with the "potato" pulley that caused the tub to turn at different rates. They used the term "scoop away lint ejector vanes" right up to the end. The vanes had slots on one side of them that directed the wash water thru them into the outer tub.
-ph
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Post# 28186-3/27/2003-14:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD LIVE WATER ACTION???
MESSAGE: You're right Peter - this was not a slanted tub machine as you said, and had the "potato" pulley.
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Post# 28187-3/27/2003-15:02 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Finally got PICS up to share (Love the 442)
MESSAGE: Steven,
I sold the 442 last year befor I sold my Townhouse. Me and the Ex were parting and I was moving in with a friend, therefore had no room and did not want to worry about storage etc. I have kept the pics because I do miss it sometimes. It was a fun car, and FAST!.
Bruce
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Post# 28188-3/27/2003-18:25 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD LIVE WATER ACTION???
MESSAGE: So what's a potato pulley?
(Does that washer also have a chicken motor and a gravy pump?)
Chris.
: )
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Post# 28189-3/27/2003-19:45 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble
MESSAGE: Hello all,
I know that the first front loader that had reverse tumble was the Launderall machine.
Did Launderall have a patent on reverse tumble wash action? The reason that I am asking is because I know that Westinghouse had to really put lot's of thought into coming up with that Potato Pully type wash action, and I am sure along the way that they knew that reverse tumble washing was better.
I was just curious because I remember learning about the patent that Bendix had on the suspension that they were using at the time, and everyone else had to come up with their own design to deal with off balance loads.
Thanks
Brent
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Post# 28190-3/27/2003-19:48 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
What front loading machine was faster?
MESSAGE: Hello all,
Another question.
I was wondering what American front loader won for the fastest spin? Through the years that is. Did the Westinghouse front loaders ever get any faster before WCI took over with the Fridgemore?
I know you Europe guys had even the fastest top loader spins after the Unimatic. I was shocked when someone posted a Hotpoint top loader that they had that had like a 1,200 spin speed, and it was from the 80's.
Just so curious tonight.
Thanks all.
Brent
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Post# 28191-3/27/2003-20:02 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble
MESSAGE: I have in my collection a wringer washer that loads like a Launderall (opening at the top of the tub like a trap door) with a copper tub that reverses....I am guessing this machine is from the 20's or 30's (has a spigot drain spout)Also has a gearbox on the back. The motor is a Westinghouse. While it functions perfectly mechanically, I don't think I would want to use it to wash with though. My point is, that if I'm not mistaken, there was reverse action tumbling on some of the wringers of the 20's and 30's. Mark
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Post# 28192-3/27/2003-20:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD LIVE WATER ACTION???
MESSAGE: Hi Chris - the 'potato' pulley as we refer to it was an oval shaped pulley for the low speed tumble during wash and rinse. I posted a picture from the service manual of the POD washer and a cutaway view of the machine as well so you can see more of the construction.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Westy&.src=ph&.dnm=potato+pulley.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Westy%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28193-3/27/2003-20:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: What front loading machine was faster?
MESSAGE: Curiosity once killed a cat...
I think the Bendix (and later Philco) probably won the spin speed contest for the older front loaders. The Westys spun at about 425-450 while the Bendix was about 525 for their suspended assembly front loaders (non bolt-down) in the mid 50's. The 36" Duomatics like I have spun at 505 rpm, but because of the large diameter drum, the results were about the same as the 525 rpm washer-only models.
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Post# 28194-3/27/2003-20:38 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Where to Start?)
MESSAGE: Brent:
Your post raised several questions.
What year/decade did the Launderall first appear with reverse tumble?
What is Potato Pully?
Is Launderall that automatic that was featured in a recent POD - the one that looked and loaded like a TL, but was actually horizontal axis?
Was it Bendix that first came up with the suspension system of springs, &c. that made it possible to install the machine without bolting it to the floor?
The first time I ever encountered reverse tumbling action was 1983, when I took a trip to South Africa, a country with largely European-made goods. Before then, I had seen only the Westinghouse in action, so I always just assumed that reverse action was a European thing. What American FL's have used it over the years?
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Post# 28195-3/27/2003-20:52 ||| Imperial70 (Mass)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Top Load Horizontal Axis exists even today)
MESSAGE: It's called the Staber 2000 (www.staber.com) I've been on the fence about buying one.
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Post# 28196-3/27/2003-20:58 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Top Load Horizontal Axis exists even today)
MESSAGE: Have there been problems with the design throughout the years that it didnt catch on? I would think it would solve the problem of front loader efficiency with the no-bendover convenience of a TL...
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Post# 28197-3/27/2003-22:10 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Launderall)
MESSAGE: I was fascinated by the recent POD's of the Launderall ... top loading, tumble action, reverse action!?! Wow! Talk about being ahead of its time.
The Launderall is reported on in March 1947 issue of Consumer Research Bulletin and the October 1947 issue of Consumer Reports that are available through the Vintage Consumer Article section of this site. It sounds like it was among the first automatics. Talk about fascinating reading!
Mike
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Post# 28198-3/27/2003-22:14 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Top Load Horizontal Axis exists even today)
MESSAGE: I have a cousin who lives in England who has a top loading tumble action washer. I have no idea who the manufacturer is. I saw it being loaded while watching a video of another cousin's family vaction. (So they left out a few details. They meant well.)
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Post# 28199-3/27/2003-22:15 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Tumble action wringers!?!)
MESSAGE: Tumble action wringers!?! I never knew about those! Wow! This site is incredible. I learn something new everyday. :-) Thanks!
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Post# 28200-3/27/2003-22:16 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: No Phosphate Calgon
MESSAGE: Anthony, we already know part of "what next", gain, all, surf, ....... and what seems to be more liquids.
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Post# 28201-3/27/2003-22:22 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Could it Be?)
MESSAGE: Wonder if it's a Staber.
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Post# 28202-3/27/2003-22:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD LIVE WATER ACTION???
MESSAGE: Who'd a thunk, a flat front tub disguised in the body of a slant front. I guess Westinghouse decided less tangling was a superior feature for those who could afford this washer.
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Post# 28203-3/27/2003-22:40 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Top Load Horizontal Axis exists even today)
MESSAGE: Imperial70, I suggest you talk with your state neighbor Jetcone about Staber washers, he used to have a couple.
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Post# 28204-3/27/2003-22:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Could it Be?)
MESSAGE: Chris, no it isn't. Our members from across the pond will chime in here with their expertise and knowledge of what brands in Europe offer toploading horizontal axis washers.
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Post# 28205-3/27/2003-23:47 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Could it Be?)
MESSAGE: Yeah, I just got back from the website, and Staber lists its origin as Ohio.
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Post# 28206-3/28/2003-03:02 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (European toploaders)
MESSAGE: Overhere in Europe H-axis toploaders are quite common. My first washer was a Philips toploader. The link brings you to a picture of it. I was so stupid to get rid of it when it broke down. I had it from 1982 - 1993. This had a variable spinspeed (stepless) between 120 rpm - 850 rpm. Most of the European toploaders are very narrow machines, the cabinet was less than 16 inches wide. The axis goes from side to side instead from front to back as in the Staber. As far as I can remember there have always been toploaders on the market here. Philips was one of the brands that has carried those for years. Somewhere in the early seventies I think they came out with a new model, the CC1000, the first toploader that had a 1000 rpm spinspeed.
The popularity of the toploaders varies by country. In most countries frontloaders sell better than toploaders, but I believe that in France toploaders are more popular than frontloaders. Although there is less to see while in use (there were toploaders with a window in the lid, but you only see the drum moving, not the laundry) I definitely have a weak spot for these machines.
Much to my surprise not one of the European brands has decided to bring such a machine out on the American market. Miele, AEG, Bosch and Asko all have toploaders in their range. I wonder what keeps them. Especially the compact size is a real selling point. They are smaller but can handle the same amount of laundry than a European frontloader.
BTW, did you know there are also toploading washer/dryer combos?
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/My+favourite+appliances&.src=ph&.dnm=Philips+H-axis+toploader.JPG&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bfavourite%2bappliances%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28207-3/28/2003-05:08 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: TODAY'S POD LIVE WATER ACTION???
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
Thanks for posting those pics.
I still don't really understand how that washer works - how it engages wash and spin. The photo doesn't show a belt direct from motor to basket shaft/pulley, but the cutaway seems to have one. If it did have one I could understand how it all happens - when spin solenoid engages the drive direct to the basket instead of through the black pulley, the basket spins and the slow moving "potato pulley" just idles on the shaft. Is that about right?
It looks like the potato pulley is an odd shape to give a varying effective diameter of the pulley, to give some variation to the tumble speed. (?) If so, how does the belt cope with the variations? Is the idler pulley /shaft on flexible mounts to allow the belt to move in and out a bit?
I am fascinated with this, it looks a (tiny) bit like the keymatic in how it works.
Thanks
Chris.
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Post# 28208-3/28/2003-05:28 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (European toploaders)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis.
Where was your Philips TL made? The two I had were both made in France. I still have one, I will post photos soon-ish. I was about to do it today when taking pix of the Keymatic, but I ran out of film. I did get one snap of the AEG junior spin dryer.
The Philips ones were never sold new in Australia, but the Bendix Bambino (from Philco in Italy) has been sold here for four or five years, and Kleenmaid sell one sourced from Brandt. The Bambino rates poorly in Choice tests but the Kleenmaid is their top rating washer, higher than even Miele.
Unfortunately the Kleenmaid/Brandt sells for about $2000, which makes it one of the most expensive washers on the market. I think only AEG and Miele have more expensive models. The Bendix recommended price is about $1200 but they are regularly on special for about $950. DEC also occasionally sell used grey import Whirlpool or Philips-Whirlpools, which I assume are derivatives of what you and I have owned.
About ten years ago a friend told me about another friend of his who had just found a very old TL tumble washer. He told me it was a Launder-Roll. He may have been mistaken and it may have been a Launderall, but he did tell me it was Australian made, appeared to be about 1950's, and was manually operated not automatic. I think you turned a lever to engage wash or spin. We have not contacted each other for a few years but I should try to track him down, and ask about it.
I really like this type of washer, I don't really understand why they aren't more popular. They seem to wash particularly well.
Chris.
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Post# 28209-3/28/2003-06:42 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Today's POD (West POD)
MESSAGE: Hi Chad, I remeber those machines too, and they were pretty neat. I remember my mom having a westy computer laundromat. It had to be from the late 50's and was pretty neat. I rememeber you dialed the number of the program you wanted and the program would come up in the window and the machine would do the rest. I still have the operating guide to that machine minus the cover, and it had 7 cycles options. It was of the slant front variety too. I believe it was early than the POD machine.
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Post# 28210-3/28/2003-08:35 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
1951 GE Found in Erie, PA
MESSAGE: I was contacted by someone who has a 1951 GE AW5-4 washer and a 1951 Whirlpool dryer. If you are interested please contact Peggy at bink@velocity.net.
LINK: http://www.classicappliances.com/TEMP/ge-wp.jpg
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Post# 28211-3/28/2003-09:06 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: 1951 GE Found in Erie, PA
MESSAGE: Great old machines although the GE looks like he needs alot of work and cleaning up.
Robert, why does this one have a black tub while your 51 GE has a white one? Are these two different models and are there any other differences that you know of?
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Post# 28212-3/28/2003-12:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (European toploaders)
MESSAGE: Hey Chris,
I think mine was made in France, but I'm not sure. Unfortunately I can't check that anymore and I don't remember it being mentioned on the machine. These Philips toploaders were also sold here under the brandnames Erres, Ruton and Ignis. Just today I saw one of those Ignis machines at a thrift store. I wasn't tempted to buy it though. At another store there is a Philips Whirlpool machine, which means it is newer. It's the model with the 1100 rpm spin. But I don't think that one starts to spin with the water still in the drum. Do you know something about it?
Louis
BTW, looking forward to your pictures!
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Post# 28213-3/28/2003-13:34 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Philips Whirlpool toploader picture)
MESSAGE: Here's a picture of a Philips Whirlpool toploader. A similar model is for sale in a nearby thriftstore. The control panel is covered by a small lid. There are two lids before you get to the drum, the dispensers are in the second lid. Spinspeed is 1100rpm. I'm thinking about buying it.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/More+washers&.dnm=Philips+Whirlpool+bovenlader.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 28214-3/28/2003-13:57 ||| BRENT-AUCOIN (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Philips Whirlpool toploader picture Go for it!)
MESSAGE: Louis,
Go for it. That is such a great looking machine!
If you decide not to go get it, stop by and take more pictures for us! : )
What year is that from? It looks like such a solid machine. Do you know off hand what the lb. capacity is?
Thanks for the picture.
Brent
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Post# 28215-3/28/2003-15:25 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Tumble action wringers!?! (Maytag))
MESSAGE: here is a link to a Maytag tumble action wringer washer
LINK: http://216.160.174.6/oldewash_docs/oldewash/images/545a.jpg
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Post# 28216-3/28/2003-15:40 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: What front loading machine was faster?
MESSAGE: Hi Brent
With the exception on the GM Frigidaires and an early GE model, no full sized American machine came anywhere near 1000 rpms. The Electrolux made Frigidaire/Kenmore/GE is the first American-made front loader to spin fast. (Even though it is based on a European design, it is assembled here in the U.S.) The old Bendix and Westinghouse front loaders never spun that fast...maybe 500 rpms. But to women who had used wringers, any automatic machine did a better job of water extraction. I remember my mom saying how dry the clothes were coming out of her new Westinghouse Laundromat compared to the wringer she had used previously. But her mother had a Unimatic Frigidaire, so she was aware there was room for improvement.
Rich
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Post# 28217-3/28/2003-16:14 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Where to Start?)
MESSAGE: Here are some answers to your questions, at least as much as I know:
1. I'm pretty sure it was 1948
2. Excellent explanation and diagram at post #28192. This system had the Westy tub continuously increasing and decreasing tub rotation speed during the wash and rinse cycles.
3.Yes
4. No - Westinghouse introduced the first automatic that did not have to be bolted down in 1945. Revolutionary ...the washer could now be in the kitchen.
5. I believe that other than the Launderall, the only other American H axis machines that reverse tumbled were WCI-built Westinghouse and Kenmore machines produced in the early 90s. When Electrolux took over WCI, these machines were discontinued and the current "Frigmores" were introduced.
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Post# 28218-3/28/2003-16:39 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Philips Whirlpool toploader picture)
MESSAGE: I had the earlier model to this (dark fascia) when I had a flat in london, only had space for a washer dryer, took that out and installed AEG dishwasher and put the Whirlpool washer in the hall cupboard with a small Whirlpool dryer on a shelf over the top....
Very impressive machine...11lb/5.5kg load, 1100 spin speed with variable time, temperature & spin speed,had a trolley on the base with a lever handle to wheel about and very quiet in operation. The inner lid had dispensers for pre-wash, main wash & fabric conditioner...
These machines last years due to their double axel bearings either side of the drum, making them very stable....and with the slimmer very wide diameter drum the spin efficiency at 1100rpm was super....
Hope you get this one
Mike
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Post# 28219-3/28/2003-16:58 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: What front loading machine was faster? (UK Spin)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent
The UK Hotpoint top loader spins at 1050rpm and has done so since the day it was introduced in 1960, not much changed at all on that machine other than cosmetics, fascias and beefed up components etc...The Servis TL machines had spin speeds of 650/700rpm
Our first Bendix FL machines where around the 500rpm mark with Hoover (Keymatic) Hotpoint (Liberator) English Electric & Servis all producing autos in the 1970`s with 740 rpm...late seventies saw the launch of the new Hoover FL with 800rpm speed with everyone else following suit... Hotpoint where the exception with their first FL spinning at 1100 but soon dropped back to 740 due to bearing probs...
Interestingly spin speed is the one feature that users request and manufacturers deliver on first in UK, partly due to the weather for line drying, and also for the fact that the British housewife was one of the last in the West to go "Automatic" preferring their "Twin-Tubs" spinning at speeds up to 3,100rpm with the average being 2,300rpm
Now its everything up to 1800rpm, I`m really impressed with my Maytag 1600 EuroLine fl with dryer, although from 1400 upwards you`d be hard pushed to feel the difference in moisture but sure does take time off the drying etc..
Mike
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Post# 28220-3/28/2003-17:23 ||| drmitch (West Tennessee)
SUBJECT:
POD-Mamies Maytags- Part Two
MESSAGE: I hope Mr. Nelson gets to see this add.
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Post# 28221-3/28/2003-19:49 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Where to Start? Thanks Rich!)
MESSAGE: Hey,
Thanks for all of the information.
I remember when we were at Jeff's house during the convention, he had a Kennmore / Westinghouse machine that was one of the last ones that was made before the big switch to Electrolux. He said that this one had a reverse tumble wash. Steve 1-18 also helped a friend one time working on his from this era.
I wonder if that one had a faster spin on it.
Have a great weekend!
Brent
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Post# 28222-3/28/2003-19:51 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Philips Whirlpool toploader picture)
MESSAGE: Mike,
What did you do with your machine? Did you sell it, or wear it out or somthing.
That sounds like a very cool machine.
When you look at the pictures, it is hard to believe that it would spin that fast.
Very cool.
Brent
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Post# 28223-3/28/2003-19:56 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: What front loading machine was faster? (UK Spin So interesting Mike!)
MESSAGE: Hello Mike,
What that your Hotpoint that you posted pictures of that time? That was a nice toploader. Do you still have it if it was? I can't understand why Hotpoint Or GE did not have this fast spinning model here in the US. It would seem to me, that in this day and age of "conservation", that people would run for this.
Also, was that your Stainless Steel set of the Maytags? That was a great looking pair! Very nice. That Maytag is built by Asko?
Thanks for the information.
Have a great weekend!
Brent
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Post# 28224-3/28/2003-19:58 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: What front loading machine was faster? (UK Spin Mike, do you still have a link?)
MESSAGE: Mike,
Do you still have a link where your machines pictures were posted? (gee, if that was yours in the first place.)
Is so, please provide the link. I am sure that many new members would love to see your machines.
I was so impressed with them.
Brent
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Post# 28225-3/28/2003-21:35 ||| devildaddy (Troy NY)
SUBJECT:
Gain HE etc.
MESSAGE: I was wondering how well the new Gain HE will perform in my Frigidaire front-loader. Is it comparable to liquid Wisk HE in performance and price?
And on THAT note, I finally gave the Wisk HE a tryout a few weeks ago. I had to change a couple of tires on the minivan after getting run into by a Hyundai (the driver of which ran a red light) and dressed in some not-so-good clothing. By the time I was done, the knees of my jeans had ground-in mud from the garage floor and the gloves had ground-in brake dust on them. I threw it all in the washer, set it to warm wash/cold rinse and used about 7/8 capful of detergent. Everything came out amazingly clean with the exception of a little of the brake dust on the gloves. I'll probably stick to the Wisk tablets I've been using for most colored-clothing washes as I like the smell of them, and I can get by with one tablet for most loads...very economical. For whites, I've been using 1/2 scoop of Tide with Bleach and 1/2 scoop OxyClean. Everything comes out extremely well.
I've got to say that I've been extremely happy with the Frigidaire. I'm usually able to get my laundry done in 3 loads per week (colors, whites and towels), assuming I'm not washing bedding that week. I don't have to spend all day doing laundry anymore as the dryer keeps up with or often gets done faster than the washer. Can't honestly say that I enjoy doing laundry like most of you here do...to me it's just a chore, but much less so than it was than when I had that crappy top-loader GE. Incidentally, that's still sitting in the garage waiting for me to disassemble it and throw it out with the garbage. Fortunately I have a 95-gallon trash bin. If any of you want it (FREE) for parts and are near Troy NY, please let me know before I go nuts with the screwdriver.
---Charlie
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Post# 28226-3/28/2003-23:47 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Mini-Washing Fun
MESSAGE: I played with the Mini-Basket in my GE Americana washer and snapped a few pics of the fun. I did a small load of whites with Tide and oxy-bleach. I was surprised at how clean everything came out, although we did have lots of suds to get things extra clean - but it's not washday without a bubble cake after all!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/General+Electric&.src=ph&.dnm=Ready+to+Mini-Wash.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/General%2bElectric%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28227-3/29/2003-00:01 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (European toploaders)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info! I would never have known.
I should have known that there would be a toploading tumbler that is a washer/dryer combo. It's just a natural progression.
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Post# 28228-3/29/2003-00:11 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Philips Whirlpool toploader picture)
MESSAGE: Man, were you ever right about those cabinets being so narrow! I like it!
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Post# 28229-3/29/2003-00:22 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Where to Start?)
MESSAGE: Kewl.
Did potato pulley continue through all the different morphoses of the Westinghouse FL? My 20/20 hindsight remembers now that my Grandfather's 1964 Laundromat would seem to tumble flexibly depending on the size and type of load and how it rose and fell in the tub. Interesting.
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Post# 28230-3/29/2003-00:25 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
Link to Norge and Kenmore
MESSAGE: This link brings you to the Norge and Kenmore that I found about a month ago (photos 6-8). The two white 1/18's that I found are behind it. Then click on "photo albums", click on the albums titled "Frigidaire" then "Norge", those will show you the gold TOL 1/18 set I found and the other album has closer inside pics of the Norge ........... other, better, overall pics still coming as well..........hope you enjoy..........
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/vwp?.dir=/More+apps&.src=ph&.dnm=NorgeandKenmore.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gregm978/lst%3f%26.dir=/More%2bapps%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28231-3/29/2003-00:26 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Chestermikeuk)
MESSAGE: Was yours permanently hooked up to plumbing, or did you have to roll it up to a sink?
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Post# 28232-3/29/2003-00:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore
MESSAGE: Wonderful pictures, thanks Greg! You have such a wonderful collection. What year is that Sears washer next to the Norge? I don't think I've ever seen that particular one before.
Appnut and I were wondering aloud one day whether your Norge was the "VHQ" and I see now that it is. Hope you are able to get it to behave better, if it isn't already. *BANG*...cycle is done. ;-) Have a great weekend, Scott
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Post# 28233-3/29/2003-01:14 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
Re; Gibson FL Washer Reverse-Tumble & Stack W-Westinghouse Gas Dryer:
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friends, I have a late '80s or early '90s Stack Gibson Washer and White-Westinghouse Gas Dryer and the Gibson Washer has the Load-Weigh Drop-Down Door and it also has the Reverse-Tumbling Multi-Speed Wash Action. Naturally the Gibson is part of the Family of WCI, and usually inside Brands have different Consoles even with similar features, but my Gibson looks just like the White-Westinghouse Gas Dryer, so they are perfect matched. They are in storage in my Garage at this time, with the Dryer Stacked to save space for other items Stored as well. I'm looking forward in getting my Garage cleaned out and able to switch my Washer and Dryer around to use them again for at least a while. I really like them, especially the Washer, because of having the Window that my Neptune doesn't have. The Dryer also has the Stationary Dry Rack that hooks into the Air Vent Holes on the inner Door opening. I also want to have the space cleared to allow me to work on my newer finds and Machines I've had for a while.
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Post# 28234-3/29/2003-02:26 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
Frigidaire "1-18" Washer and Hotpoint E-Dryer find:
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friends, I just picked-up a 1976 Frigidaire "1-18" Washer and a 1993 Hotpoint E-Dryer, from a Friend on Friday. They were going to just "Junk" the Washer, because it went out on them. The Dryer worked until recently and all of a sudden quit. They bought a newer 1992 Kenmore "MOL" Matched Set and that Dryer wouldn't work, so they found out that the Hotpoint Dryer had Blown the Fuses. They paid $100.00 for the Dryer and were given the Washer and they just wanted $50.00 for the Dryer and threw in the Washer. The "1-18" is what I would call an "off-breed" Model #WC-6 that wasn't real popular with purchasing. I can't even find any Brochures I have that show it with the others. I would like to know if anyone might have any info that you can send to me? I would really appreciate any and all info to be sent to me "via" E-Mail. The Hotpoint
E-Dryer is a Model #DLB1550. It looks like it is in pretty good shape for being 10-years old, but I'm going to still take it apart and clean it out and Lube the Rollers, Belt Tension Pulley, with Turbine Oil and check the Drum Belt too.
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Post# 28235-3/29/2003-02:38 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo:
MESSAGE: What a neat Appliance and idea. Does anyone have one of these? I wonder if there are any Electric Stove/Dishwasher Combo's ever made? It would be great for people to be able to choose Electric or Gas Stoves for their personal preference. {LOL} I was only 3-years old when these were being sold. Those were the days, why can't they do something like this now?
I know that one of the Manufactures now does make a Stove with the Oven that changes to a Refrigerator after Cooking, if you don't take the Food out soon enough. Does anyone know that Company who makes that Stove?
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Post# 28236-3/29/2003-04:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re; Gibson FL Washer Reverse-Tumble & Stack W-Westinghouse Gas Dryer: (Spinspeed?)
MESSAGE: What is the spinspeed of your Gibson washer?
Louis
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Post# 28237-3/29/2003-05:57 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore
MESSAGE: Greg - great photos. That Kenmore is the exact model one of my aunts had . I remember that it was a big deal because she never had a washer in her apartment and always had to go to the laundromat. Then in 62 or 63, my cousin bought this for her. But it seemed that she never did laundry - I don't recall that I ever got to see it operate. Then in 1971 she moved to Bay Ridge and left the machine behind.
Just out of curiosity, how did you get the cat pee and mildew out of the Norge?
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Post# 28238-3/29/2003-06:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Philips Whirlpool toploader picture Go for it!)
MESSAGE: I went to the thriftstore this morning and had a look at the Philips Whirlpool toploader. It was quite a disappointment. The lid was badly damaged (I hadn't seen that last time, there was a box on it) and the timer appeared to be stuck. Although they give a 3 months warranty, it put me off.
BTW, yesterday I found two pictures of a similar machine (an Ignis), one of them shows that machine with the lids open. The second lid contains the detergent dispensers.
To compensate for my disappointment I started a load in my little AEG toploader. It will soon perform one of it's little dances..
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/More+washers&.dnm=Ignis+bovenlader.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 28239-3/29/2003-06:36 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Philips Whirlpool toploader picture)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
The Ignis is the same as my Philips one, except the Ignis has white plastic controls and trim, my Philips has dark brown.
This machine does not start to spin till it has pumped out the water.
I used to have an earlier one which started to spin when still full of water. I sold that some years ago, to an old lady in a house with no laundry, just a small space for a washer in the bathroom. She had been using a Hoover twintub. She had never used an automatic washer and was absolutely amazed that she didn't have to intervene during its cycle. I think it was a better looking machine, with a smoky gray clear control panel with the control markings behind. The later one has cheaper looking screen printed controls on the brown plastic.
I have heard in the last few months from her daughter, who is a friend of mine, that the Philips no longer works and her mother is using the Hoover twin tub again. I will investigate next time I am in that area.
Chris.
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Post# 28240-3/29/2003-07:00 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Mini-Washing Fun (Looks like you had fun!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Thanks looks like fun!
I guess that washing with the Mini Basket turns that Waterhog into a thrifty machine. I guess that was GE's argument on how much water it used with a non Mini Basket load.
Thanks for the pictures.
Brent
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Post# 28241-3/29/2003-07:01 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (Great looking Norge)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Thanks for the pictures. That is a great looking Norge. What does the initials stand for that is on the timer?
Your Kenmore is great looking also. Have you run it yet?
Hope you have a great weekend.
Brent
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Post# 28242-3/29/2003-07:03 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Darn!)
MESSAGE: Louis,
Sorry to hear about the shape of the washer at the trift store.
I am sure that another one will come your way.
Hey, in your photo album there is a picture of a walkway with about 30 frontloaders in it. What was that for? Was it an ad? I think that is so creative.
Brent
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Post# 28243-3/29/2003-07:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore
MESSAGE: Greg, thanks for the pics of the Norge. Have to admit, never have seen one like that. But they still used the "VHQ" insignia in 1967, which stood for Very High Quality. Norge had started using that in 1966 to overcome the bad reputation the machines had developed for problems starting with the 1964 model. Saddens me to see the non bakelite black agitator. Gotta ask, I figure one of the small knobs on the side of the timer knob is for water level. What's the other small knob for?
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Post# 28244-3/29/2003-07:52 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (Kenmore)
MESSAGE: What year is this Kenmore? Looks like around '65. Will you be posting pics of tub and agitator?
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Post# 28245-3/29/2003-08:44 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Range/fridge combo- a bit off topic)
MESSAGE: Yeah this is a little off-topic, but interesting still...I believe that the new range that automatically refrigerates the food cooked in it IF it is not taken out after cooking is made by Amana. Try looking up their website. I believe I saw something about it on HGTV several months ago. Thought I also saw one at Sears as I was hurrying through...
Duane
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Post# 28246-3/29/2003-08:58 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Range/fridge combo- a bit off topic)
MESSAGE: It's actually a Whirlpool refrigerated range named Polara.
It's a nice range, but I don't think I would buy one unless it came with an James dishwasher!
LINK: http://polara.whirlpool.com/
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Post# 28247-3/29/2003-09:13 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Range/fridge combo- a bit off topic)
MESSAGE: Maybe they will make a fridge that cooks the food next!
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Post# 28248-3/29/2003-09:25 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Check out that see through lid!)
MESSAGE: Wow! A dishwasher with a windowed lid. What a great way to check out the action. I've only seen one other dishwasher with a widow and that was on TV in the very first episode of Bewitched. They lived in what I assume was a rented house, which had a front loading dishwasher with a window in its door. I always thought that it would be so cool to have one just like it.
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Post# 28249-3/29/2003-09:41 ||| steved (Albany, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re; Gibson FL Washer Reverse-Tumble & Stack W-Westinghouse Gas Dryer: (reverse-tumbling)
MESSAGE: WCI-Westinghouse, in the last year or so of FL production using the old Westy design did introduce a reverse tumble machine, using technology from the European models. The unit had a DC motor and an electronic motor/speed control from Italy. The problem was that the location of the control unit on the machine was top-center, rear of the cabinet..... a perfect spot for an out-of-balance load of towels to cause the outer tub to crash into the control and destroy it.....ask my sister.... But it was easily repaired (thank god for my discount at the parts place) and it has run perfectly since... SteveD
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Post# 28250-3/29/2003-10:00 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Check out that see through lid!)
MESSAGE: So true, but I think the MFG feels that we see enough violence on TV and by putting a window on the current dishwashers, it will cause us to see the knife and forks attacking the plates and saucers, traumatizing kids and parents all over the world watching how these machine really got those dishes cleaned!
:-))
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Post# 28251-3/29/2003-10:22 ||| tumbleaction (North Las Vegas, NV)
SUBJECT:
Huish Detergents
MESSAGE: Does anyone know the scoop on Huish Detergents based in Salt Lake? They produce their own brands, like Sun, and are a major private label supplier for grocery chains and Costco. They have expanded by buying up old brands like White King and Citrus (my mom's favorite), and recently have changed their private label powdered dishwasher detergents to enzyme formulas. Basically I'd like to know more about this company. It would be great to support a smaller manufacturer, but being based behind the "Zion Curtain" (Utah) I'd like to know more about the "politics" of the company before I patronize their products.
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Post# 28252-3/29/2003-10:59 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Mini-Washing Fun (Mini-Washing Fun )
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
Great what would a wash day be without a lot of suds!
Jetaction
Peter
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Post# 28253-3/29/2003-11:02 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore ( Norge and Kenmore)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Thanks for the great pics
Peter
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Post# 28254-3/29/2003-11:05 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Range/fridge combo- a bit off topic)
MESSAGE: Maybe one day they will build a stove combo dishwasher.
Although if anyone remembers Modern Maid had made the dishwasher under the stove, which I thought was a great idea. To bad they don't make something like that today.
Peter
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Post# 28255-3/29/2003-11:05 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (thnx)
MESSAGE: Thanks Scott, the Kenmore washer is a '63 I believe based on the model #............ it has the, I think you call it, "pentaswirl" agitator with detergent cup which fits it and the top of the agitator is bumpy, like a scrub surface........the Norge bangs like six or seven times, NOT JUST ONCE, so I think there is something wrong with the tub brake for sure.........
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Post# 28256-3/29/2003-11:06 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Check out that see through lid!)
MESSAGE: Yes I wish all dishwashers had windows!
Peter
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Post# 28257-3/29/2003-11:08 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (mildew)
MESSAGE: I haven't solved that dilemma yet, I plan on cleaning as much as i can with a rag and diluted bleach...........thanks, glad you liked the photos, I have my work cut out for me with the Norge. I have no idea yet whether the Kenmore works or not....
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Post# 28258-3/29/2003-11:09 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (Great looking Norge)
MESSAGE: thanks Brent, I think the VHQ stands for Very High Quality, but I am not sure, I have not even tried the Kenmore out yet....... I have my work cut out for me and I am now out of room.......... (hehehe)
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Post# 28259-3/29/2003-11:10 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (othrknob)
MESSAGE: the knob to the left is, yes, for the water level, the knob to the right actually turns the whole timer dial, it is very cool
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Post# 28260-3/29/2003-11:12 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (Kenmore)
MESSAGE: yes I will be posting pics of the tub and agitator, not exactly sure when, but I will.............
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Post# 28261-3/29/2003-11:12 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore ( Norge and Kenmore(thnxPete))
MESSAGE: Thanks Pete, glad you liked..........
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Post# 28262-3/29/2003-11:19 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore
MESSAGE: Wonderful Greg - you have made some terrific finds! That Norge is beautiful, great agitator in that...I wish I had more Norge info around. Sounds like you won't have too much trouble getting it running perfectly. Thanks for the pics - Greg
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Post# 28263-3/29/2003-11:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Philips Whirlpool toploader picture Go for it!)
MESSAGE: Is the dispenser similar to the Phillips t/l washer? I hadn't imagined that sort of configuration for the dispenser, but it makes sense now. How does the water flush through it?
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Post# 28264-3/29/2003-11:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Range/fridge combo- a bit off topic)
MESSAGE: Whirlpool...
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Post# 28265-3/29/2003-11:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (How it really gets done...)
MESSAGE: It's the "dishwasher elves" that they are hiding. The little guys come out and scrub the dishes with little pails and brushes. Because of manufacturers union busting policies, there are fewer elves per machine now, thus the longer cycle times and quieter operation.
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Post# 28266-3/29/2003-12:00 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re; Gibson FL Washer Reverse-Tumble & Stack W-Westinghouse Gas Dryer: (Spinspeed?)
MESSAGE: Hi! Louis, I'm not real sure, but I would guess somewhere between 500-rpm and 700-rpm. It does seem to get quite a lot of the Water extracted out of even Jeans and other heavy Material and having the Gas Dryer, it does seem to Dry pretty fast as well. I had these naturally before having all of this knowledge about faster Spinning being better for quicker Drying times and they had been set-up in my other Garage as a separate, extra set to do Laundry with. When I can get my Gargage cleaned out I'm thinking about giving the Dryer a Test between my various Washers, to see how it does with the various Spinning Speeds and time of Drying the Laundry and maybe put the Gibson Washer against my Neptune Gas Dryer for timing as well.
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Post# 28267-3/29/2003-12:46 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re; Gibson FL Washer Reverse-Tumble & Stack W-Westinghouse Gas Dryer: (Spin Speed?)
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friends, I forgot to ask in my prior reply to Louis, if anyone else might have some info about my Gibson's Spin Speed capacity, I would appreciate any info. "BTW" it's been some time since I've used these, so it will be nice to check them out again and see the Washer's cleanability now with the newer Detergents and Stain Removal products out that weren't out when I bought these and even through the length of time I was using them then.
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Post# 28268-3/29/2003-13:37 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
POLARA REFRIDGERATOR RANGE
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone! Just returned from Best Buy and was trying to take a peek at the new Polara Refridgerator range. Unfortunately I, nor the salesman, could get the door to unlock! It's all electronic so you can just about imagine what the problems with this one is going to be. It's seems to be a great concept though. Put food in the oven before you go to bed and it will be refridgerated until the cooking control comes on the next afternoon. Wonderful roasts etc., are ready for you to remove from the oven when you are ready to have dinner the next day! Does look nice from the outside though. Mark
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Post# 28269-3/29/2003-13:43 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (Condition of the Kenmore?)
MESSAGE: scott55405:
The Kenmore is one that veteran Applianceville members have heard me rave about for a solid year now. My Aunt and Uncle bought this same model washer in early 1964 and later that year got the matching dryer to go along with. I had my happiest washer memories with that beauty, and she was durable, too - lasted for almost 20 years. My selection of the Kenmore Rotoswirl agitator as wallpaper for my Applianceville posts is a tribute to it and to Mrs. Thornton's 1961 model.
I have never been able to find a reference to it in old Sears catalogs or newspaper ads. Even though I have seen 5 of them in my lifetime, I always wondered if Sears did a special production of it that was available only in stores, or perhaps only in catalogs.
I am still kicking myself that I was not able to make it to Jon Charles' museum at the convention last summer - supposedly, he has one in working condition.
Greg:
Dont remember seeing the post where you mention finding these gems so forgive me: what condition is the Kenmore in? In addition to pics of the tub and agitator, would you be willing to do some of the control panel close up and lighted up? Also, are you interested in selling it?
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Post# 28270-3/29/2003-13:46 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Range/fridge combo- a bit off topic)
MESSAGE: H Pete! We had one of these Modern Maid dishwasher-cooktop-oven combos on one of the boats we had. The dishwasher was a D&M and of course had to be replaced when we got the boat since the bottom had rusted out. I took the dishwasher part out and put in a Kitchenaid. The cooktop and oven were really exceptional. The element in the oven was under a porcelain-cast iron plate. I have NEVER had an oven that baked that well. Perfect even heat. I have a picture of me standing in front of it somewhere with a pan of my tender light and fluffy southern biscuits ready to be baked! Loved that oven! I think it was made sometime in the 70's but I'm not sure. Mark
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Post# 28271-3/29/2003-14:00 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Real Classic)
MESSAGE: Hey Chris,
The models with a dark control panel were sold here too, but were followed up by the machines with the white contol panels.
I think you should get that old Philips back, it's a real classic. Perhaps you can restore it, I think it's worth it. What was the spinspeed of that machine? 850rpm?
Louis
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Post# 28272-3/29/2003-14:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Picture in walkway)
MESSAGE: Brent, I actually hope to find an older Philips machine that starts the spincycle with the drum still filled with water, those machines are the real classics.
The picture with the washers on the walkway was taken for a consumer magazine that tested these machines in 1969. The picture was recently reprinted in the newspaper because of an anniversary of the consumer organization.
Louis
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Post# 28273-3/29/2003-14:10 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re; Gibson FL Washer Reverse-Tumble & Stack W-Westinghouse Gas Dryer: (reverse-tumbling)
MESSAGE: Which reminds me that PeterH770 has an Italian frontloader that was sold by Sears. I don't remember from what year it is, but I bet it has reverse tumbling too.
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Post# 28274-3/29/2003-14:13 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Check out that see through lid!)
MESSAGE: I remember an aunt of mine had a frontloading dishwasher with a small window in the lid. I don't know what brand it was, I've been only once in her kitchen. That was in 1965 or so.
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Post# 28275-3/29/2003-14:14 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (You were deprived!)
MESSAGE: Dude, youve missed one beautiful sight if youve never seen it lit up and chugging away. To this day, I still think that is one of the most beautiful machines that has worn the Kenmore badge. I once heard an article on National Public Radio that talked of an Italian designer (he did either clothes or cars; cant remember) who was contracted to design a refrigerator for Sears Roebuck. I always wondered if he designed other appliances, like that washer.
By the time I was old enough to notice, the detergent cup had long ago been lost. But the timed bleach dispenser worked like a champ for 10 years before it suddenly gave up the ghost.
My Aunt and Uncle both did the laundry chores around the house, even though my aunt was a housewife and my Uncle was a butch, macho Army officer. I recall that either Friday or Monday was the main washday, with the washer and dryer running almost non stop for hours. But we would make use of it other days of the week, even one or two Sunday afternoons doing delicates (the only time the Whisk bottled detergent was used), and one late night after midnight when Uncle needed his muddy fatigues clean and dry by 5 a.m. Reveille. We made use of all of the cycles...well, I never saw anybody use PreWash/PreSoak.
Even the matching dryer was fascinating to me as a 4-year old boy. It had the Soft Heat technology that would gradually cool down the temperature as the clothes got drier. I would open and close the door repeatedly enough to damn near wear out the latch just so I could see the control panel light up, and I would offer to clean the lint filter so that I could get a whiff of the air freshener that smelled like Valentines Day candy hearts. AAAAAHHHHH, the simple pleasures of life!
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Post# 28276-3/29/2003-14:25 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Range/fridge combo- a bit off topic)
MESSAGE: Modern Maid used to make an electric stove/dishwasher combo.
For people with tiny kitchens, it had an eye level oven, a cooktop in the middle, and a full-size dishwasher where a conventional oven would be. They sold them for years in the 1970s, so I would think that you would still be able to find one at some used appliace store or junkyard if you combed the countryside.
And the answer to the stove/refrigerator query is: Maytag.
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Post# 28277-3/29/2003-14:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Philips Whirlpool toploader picture Go for it!)
MESSAGE: Actually Greg both machines are identical, they come from the same factory. The Ignis was just a BOL model (like GE and Hotpoint).
Since I have never used one of these machines I don't know exactly how the water flushes through. I think when you close the lid the openings come level with the water inlets. Perhaps Chris knows more about this. The older machines like my Philips were different, there was a stationary dispenser in the front part of the opening. It had a separate lid, so there were two lids under the upper lid. Actually when you closed the lid in the newer machines, you placed the dispensers in the same position as the stationary dispensers of the older models. The dispensers in the lid are probably more convenient.
Louis
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Post# 28278-3/29/2003-14:28 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
Agitators on ebay!
MESSAGE: Well Boys! Here's that wonderful Winged Wonder Whirlpool agitiator!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2314589138&category=20714
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Post# 28279-3/29/2003-14:30 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Bewitched)
MESSAGE: Yeah, and a pushbutton Maytag laundry set. Probably never got used before Darrin, who I never saw do a lick of housework the entire run of the show, met Sam, because the story goes that this was his bachelor pad before Samantha, and they moved to Morninglory Circle because they were way too cramped.
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Post# 28280-3/29/2003-14:35 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (What Violence?)
MESSAGE: What violence? Those utensils are having a party in there, just like in the washer. You open the lid and the clothes are all dancing around, unless it's an illegal party and they hide their fun until you close the lid and leave...okay, so I stole that bit from a Jerry Seinfeld standup routine. I go byebye now.
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Post# 28281-3/29/2003-14:37 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Check out that see through lid!)
MESSAGE: I second that! Not even though Europeans, the Japanese, or the Koreans have such.
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Post# 28282-3/29/2003-14:45 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Reply to My Own Post)
MESSAGE: Oops! After reading subsequent posts, I stand corrected about the Polara being made by Maytag. My bad!
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Post# 28283-3/29/2003-16:10 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Bewitched Kitchen Appliances)
MESSAGE: You're right about Darrin. I don't remember seeing him do anything around the house either. Not ever a barbeque!
We lost both the windowed dishwasher and the pushbutton Maytag when the Stevens moved to Morning Glory Circle, but we frequently got to see same cook on that awesome Frigidaire Flair! (At least until they remodeled the kitchen -- and switched to a harvest gold gas built-in :-( -- during the later years of the show.)
And wasn't that a matching Frigidaire washer and dryer in Sam's kitchen? (It became a set of harvest gold Maytags after the remodel.)
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Post# 28284-3/29/2003-16:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Vintage Laundry Finds
MESSAGE: Hi all and happy Saturday! I went to three sales today and found a whole box full of laundry and cleaning supplies in the garage, covered with years of dust. There were a few things from the 80's in cleaning supplies but there was 1/2 a box of PUNCH "adjusted suds" laundry detergent (Colgate) with enzymes and an unopened box of Axion pre-soak additive, a favorite of mine. There was also a box of Amway SA8 from 1976 - loaded with phosphates. I'm off to do some washing with Punch, will give a review later!
Greg
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Post# 28285-3/29/2003-16:50 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Bewitched Kitchen Appliances)
MESSAGE: Yessir - you know that's right! The Stevens' Frigidaire laundry pair was the Custom Imperial that are the object of so many of us Applianceville members' obsession.
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Post# 28286-3/29/2003-16:53 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (What Violence?)
MESSAGE: hahaha
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Post# 28287-3/29/2003-16:56 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (How it really gets done...)
MESSAGE: ROFLMAO
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Post# 28288-3/29/2003-17:34 ||| Mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (James portable dishwasher)
MESSAGE: I had on of these machines. Very cool. I was young & thought people would talk re my dishwasher fetish so I gave it away. Now years later I know I made a large mistake. It worked very well. For the size of it you could load a fair bit into it, & watch the waves of water roll over & over the dishes. I sure wish I could buy another one. I have the perfect spot for one now. Does anyone in Applianceville have one? would love to see a pic. Michael
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Post# 28289-3/29/2003-18:51 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Bewitched Kitchen Appliances)
MESSAGE: Hey! Darrin didn't have to do anything, since all that Sam had to do is "Twitch" her Nose and like Gladys Cravitz would say "Bang" it appeared, or "Bang" it disappeared. It is too bad they couldn't have the Flair Stove, the Window D/W, the Frigidaire Washer and Dryer and the Maytag's, might as well have everything, like I almost have for use.
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Post# 28290-3/29/2003-20:13 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Vintage Laundry Finds
MESSAGE: Ahhh, yes. Punch. I do remember that candy-scent.
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Post# 28291-3/29/2003-21:40 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Bewitched Kitchen Appliances)
MESSAGE: Help me out here...
If I remember right Bobby Brady tried to wash his dirty jacket and pants in an avacodo green Whirlpool. What did Shirley Partridge have? Granny Clampett had a pair of lighter colored Maytags in the back of her kitchen. Did Jeanne have a Frigidaire Flair too? What are Peg Bundy's coppertones? I love the Andy Griffith episode where Aunt Bea wins all those wonderful appliances on a game show, including a top loading dishwasher. But she sells them all 'cause her friends hate her for having them....stupid woman!!!
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Post# 28292-3/29/2003-21:57 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Bewitched Kitchen Appliances)
MESSAGE: Peg Bundy's Washer and Dryer was the Lady-K Washer and Dryer with the Console Covers and Fluorescent Lights on them. I forget the year of them {late 60s, early 70s}, but they were one of the first Washers that had the "Quiet-Pak" Insulation in them and the Vari-Flex Agitator that was White with the Gold Kenmore Emblem on the Cover Cap on top.
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Post# 28293-3/29/2003-23:33 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (mildew)
MESSAGE: Perhaps for the cat pee, you can get one of those black lights at Home Depot and shine it inside the works of the machine. My understanding the areas affected by the pee will show a different color. Then get some of the enzyme spray from a pet store and try that. I am sure there are other suggestions that might work also, but that is just my $.02 worth.
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Post# 28294-3/29/2003-23:37 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Bewitched)
MESSAGE: Yes, but before the Maytag set they had a Frigidaire set - probably 65 model year since that was the debut of the show.....
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Post# 28295-3/29/2003-23:45 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Vintage Laundry Finds
MESSAGE: SOunds like a good day for a few estate sale finds. Our sales here this weekend were pretty awful. We usually do not get a lot in the way of older laundry detergents because most basements here in Connecticut are damp and musty - resulting in a solid block of detergent in a box. Interesting find with that Punch, though. I will be interested to know what you think. I recall that Mom used Punch for a while in the 69 - 71 period and was quite pleased with the results. Then after weeding the yard one afternoon and spending hours pulling poison ivy and not knowing it (she was, after all a city woman), well you can guess what happened and exactly how badly.... (cortisone shots anyone???)
Anyway, before the doctor confirmed the poison ivy problem, she blamed the Punch detergent and switched back to her combo assortment of Ajax, Rinso with color bleach and Cheer.
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Post# 28296-3/30/2003-07:30 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Real Classic)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
I think it was 800 rpm. It might have been 850, certainly no faster.
Chris.
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Post# 28297-3/30/2003-07:55 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Philips Whirlpool dispenser)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg and Louis
My Philips has the same dispenser as the Ignis in the photo. It appears to be exactly the same machine, apart from the name and the colour of the plastic.
There is only one water connection, for cold water, but it is a triple solenoid, with an outlet for each solenoid. Each outlet has its own rubber hose to the top panel of the drum. The lid is in the top panel. Each hose goes to its own jet built into the top panel, and each jet squirts into a different dispenser in the lid. When the machine fills the water is directed to the correct compartment of the lid dispenser, according to which solenoid is energized.
I don't remember if my older machine had the same system or not, it might have had dispensers in front as Louis described for his older machine.
When I got my later model one, the dispenser was clogged with detergent residue. I always added the detergent direct to the drum, never in the dispenser. As I don't use rinse additive or softener I have never had to use the dispenser.
This was/is one of the best performing machines I have ever used, and easily handled far more than its claimed 5.5kg capacity. My Asko is claimed 4.5 kg and the F&P claimed 7.5 kg, so I would estimate the Philips at around 6.5 kg. The only reason I don't still use it is my solar power system won't run it. Despite being such a clever machine, the electronics in the motor control is barbarically crude and inefficient, using over 1000 watts when washing (tumbling). I don't have that much power to waste. When I have some time to spare (in a couple of years or so) I would like to design and build a better speed control module. The motor itself is very efficient, but the speed control circuitry is awful. It connects the heating element in series with the motor to achieve the tumble speed, which means the motor sees about 4.5 amps at 20 volts and the heating element dissipates the remaining 4.5 amps at 220 volts. (total 4.5 amps at 240v) To tumble effectively it only needs to supply 4.5 amps 20 volts which could easily be supplied by a switchmode power supply or even a simple transformer. I have a complete wiring and timer diagram for this machine so I have enough info to design a new motor control board, I just need to do some homework.
On spin as the heating element is out of the equation it is actually very efficient, using 1.5 amps at 240v = 360watts, for a spin of (I think )1000 rpm. (? - I will check)
Chris.
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Post# 28298-3/30/2003-08:14 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
WHAT A WEEK!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Last week was UNBELIEVEABLE!
Monday, I got a call from one of the used appliance places and he said he had a Frigidaire washer. It was an early 70’s 1-18. White with a plastic lid. 2 Speed, 2 cycles (sorry I can’t give you the model number, but I’m about 160 miles from home (annual beach vacation).
Tuesday night, Appliance Land has an Avocado GE double wall oven and matching drop in cook-top that looks brand spanking new in the ‘appliance dept.’ I said to myself, ‘self, if that is still here Wednesday night you are taking it home.’ (I had the 1-18 in the back of the SUV Tuesday night)
Wednesday night, after supper, Rhinnie and I headed to Appliance Land. When we got there, there was another truck picking up old appliances on the loading dock. I struck up a conversation with the husband and wife and they were a real nice couple. I told them about my hobby and the club, and what I was looking for and we exchanged phone numbers.
Thursday night, at bowling, one of the league members said he saw the top of a washer he thought was a Frigidaire. Did I want him to pick it up for me. Sure! I haven’t seen it yet, but from his description it has 2 small squares, one has an ‘F’ and the other has a ‘GM’ so looks like I may get some spare parts.
Friday night, on my way home from work, I stopped by Appliance Land and saw a new ‘shipment’ of used appliances. There was a late 50’s – early 60’s Maytag Dryer. Looked BOL like an OPL machine. One timer knob in the middle and three black buttons on the right: Regular, Wash and Wear, and Air. Has the ‘M’ with a circle around it on the front and the door is push – pull, not turning latch, if that will help date it. Well, I immediately called a ‘board meeting’ and the vote was to leave it. I needed to get home and get ready to leave on vacation.
Saturday night, about 8 pm my cell phone rings. I look at the number and it is a local Augusta number. I answer and a woman’s voice asks is this Steve? I reply yes and she says she’s at Appliance Land and there’s an old Maytag dryer. Thought I might be interested in it. It was the lady I’d met Wednesday night. I thanked her but said unfortunately I was out of town and wouldn’t be back for two weeks. She then asked I would like her and her husband to pick it up. Again, I explained I wouldn’t be home for 2 weeks. She said that if I wanted it, they would take it home and I could pick it up when I got back. Way too cool!
Here I thought two weeks of goodies might get away whilst I was on vacation, but I have some appliance watchers keeping a lookout for me.
Pretty unbelievable week.
Oh, one last thing. I called Wringingwet (Philippe) on the way to the beach, and we’ll be getting together during the week for a wash-in!
That’s all for now from Hilton Head Island. Now back to Uni in Minnesota.
Steve1-18
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Post# 28299-3/30/2003-08:57 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Philips Whirlpool motor)
MESSAGE: Chris,
Can it be that it only needs the 1000 Watts to start the motor? I guess your machine also has a Permanent Magnet motor? I think I remember that mine was 950 Watts, but the energy it used was not very different from other machines. It just probably draws too much at the start. (Or am I talking nonsense now, doesn't a PM motor need more power at the start?)
BTW, do your machines have separate temperature controls? Mine had, but it was that thing that was broken on mine. And since it was an expensive electronic part, I decided to get a new washer. If only I had known then what I know now!
Overhere Philips claimed only 4.5kg (10lbs) for this machine, but I too had the impression that it could hold more.
Louis
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Post# 28300-3/30/2003-09:00 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT A WEEK!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: You can say that again!
Please post the pics when you can Steve!
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Post# 28301-3/30/2003-09:02 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT A WEEK!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Wow Steve,
Sounds things are going great for you. How wonderful to have so many people looking out for you. Ofcourse we can't wait to see pictures of your new machines and ofcourse we are expecting to see some pictures of the holiday too. Take a picture of Philippe too (if he wants) for the member picture gallery that we should have here!
Enjoy your holiday,
Louis
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Post# 28302-3/30/2003-09:16 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT A WEEK!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: I hope there will be a members picture gallery soon so I can roll in the mudd and show off how many stains can be removed by using a vintage washing machine. :-))
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Post# 28303-3/30/2003-09:44 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
Thor automatic clothes&dishwasher ad
MESSAGE: Hey gang,anyone ever hear of a Thor washer? I came across an ad for sale on E bay that states this machine washes both clothes and dishes! It seems that the idea of multifunction appliances isn't all that new!I wonder if you could wash the clothes and dishes at the same time,in 1945? (-: Item # 3601488060 (vintage washers)
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Post# 28304-3/30/2003-11:01 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thor automatic clothes&dishwasher ad
MESSAGE: Hi!
There's some discussion about it here every so often. That ad was also a fairly recent POD. And if I remember correctly, there was also a post that linked to a copy of either an sales brochure or an owner's or service manual.
Here's a link to a recent post of mine that discusses it at the end of a discussion of another vintage washer: http://classicappliances.com/NEW%20DISCUSS/DISCUSSION%20POSTS/28027.html. The gist of my post is that you can find a report on it in the 1947 editions of Consumer Research Bulletin and Consumer Reports that you can find in the Vintage Consumer Article section of this site. It makes for fascinating reading. They didn't report on its dishwashing ability. It was a semi-automatic washer. I'm guessing that that means that the user had to turn the water on and off and manually manipulate the controls to get the machine to fill, agitate, drain, and spin.
The first time that I became aware that something like this exisited was a couple of years ago when the combination dishwasher/washer/sink version of this was discussed on an episode of Extreme Homes on House and Garden Television. They didn't show it in action, but they did show it set up as both a dishwasher and washer. It was fascinating.
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/NEW%20DISCUSS/DISCUSSION%20POSTS/28027.html
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Post# 28305-3/30/2003-12:31 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (Condition of the Kenmore?)
MESSAGE: The Kenmore is in great condition, have no idea as to whether it is working or not, or what is wrong with it for that matter. I expect to post more pics once I get a chance on doing some work on it. I have a couple other machines that are taking precedence and simply making and finding the time to work on them.
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Post# 28306-3/30/2003-12:31 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (Condition of the Kenmore?)
MESSAGE: The Kenmore is in great condition, have no idea as to whether it is working or not, or what is wrong with it for that matter. I expect to post more pics once I get a chance on doing some work on it. I have a couple other machines that are taking precedence and simply making and finding the time to work on them.
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Post# 28307-3/30/2003-12:35 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (mildew)
MESSAGE: thanks for the tip :) ................
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Post# 28308-3/30/2003-14:24 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: What front loading machine was faster? (UK Spin Mike, do you still have a link?)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent
Heres the link, I`ve added a few more pics including my latest buy, the Hotpoint 1978 TL with Timeline!!!!Yay....
Also a few more twinnys and adds for the Hoover Keymatic..
Let me know what you think..
Mike
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/chestermikeuk
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Post# 28309-3/30/2003-14:29 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thor automatic clothes&dishwasher ad
MESSAGE: The Thor washer/diswasher combo was quite a machine. The homemaker interchanged the tubs in the cabinet on the mechanical assembly for washing dishes OR washing clothes. Therefore, NOTHING ever touched your dishes that touched your clothes! I've often heard members ask about that, and comment that they wouldn't want to wash their dishes where they had been washing their clothes! I have an old Thor instruction booklet and one of these days when I have a wash-in, and have all the computer wizzes here, I'm going to have them show me how to get all this stuff online for ya'll to see. Until then.....Mark (lightedcontrols)
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Post# 28310-3/30/2003-16:18 ||| electrophobia (NOLA)
SUBJECT:
speed queen twin tub.
MESSAGE: Hello gents. do any of you have pics ot the SQ twin tub sold for a short while in the seventys. portable machine s/s tubs with real agitator action also had a dryer as I remember with kind of a microwave look slender with controls on the side (for the dryer) never saw one only and add let me know thanks.
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Post# 28311-3/30/2003-16:19 ||| electrophobia (NOLA)
SUBJECT:
also sq twin tub.
MESSAGE: what should one expect to pay for a thrift shop unimatic, 1-18 or roller matic???? just wondered, i realize it depends on the condition but ball park????
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Post# 28312-3/30/2003-16:25 ||| Grunkle (Corpus Christi, TX)
SUBJECT:
ABC O'Matic / Kelvinator washers
MESSAGE: I remember the above as a kid. When I first saw Whirlpool's/Kenmore's Calypso washers, I was reminded of my childhood memories. Are these new(?) washers a revamp of the old machines I recall?
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Post# 28313-3/30/2003-17:39 ||| Lindemanschard3 (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
o'Keefe Merritt
MESSAGE: I'm looking for an east coast (or anyone this side of the Mississippi) to do a restoration on a 1950 O'keefe Merritt gas range. Any ideas?
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Post# 28314-3/30/2003-18:08 ||| electrophobia (NOLA)
SUBJECT:
caloric washers????
MESSAGE: in the archive someone mentioned a caloric washer was there such a machine at one time. send me a link Thanks.
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Post# 28315-3/30/2003-19:14 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Philips Whirlpool motor)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
No, it's nothing to do with it being a PM motor. Permanent magnet motors are particularly efficient. I have done a few crude "experiments" with my Philips (nothing damaging) which illustrate the point.
I disconnected the wires to the motor and ran a couple of wires direct to the 24 volt battery bank of my solar power system. With a full load of clothes and water, and running the motor direct from 24 volts DC, it used only about 60 to 80 watts, which is exceptionally efficient. 24 volts was a bit too fast, it tumbles perfectly with 22 volts, which is printed on the motor itself. (POLYMOTOR ITALIANA - 22v/75w/800rpm, 200v/200w/10500rpm.)
The trouble is in how Philips have chosen to reduce the 240 volt supply to 22 volts for the motor. The most efficient setup would use a switchmode supply (like in computers) or a transformer. A perfect system would supply about 24 volts and would pulse this (slightly too high) voltage on and off to accurately control motor speed. Philips system (reducing the voltage by using the heating element as a series resistor)is clever in terms of simplicity and cheap production, but is very wasteful of electricity.
PM DC motors have a very slight surge on startup, much less than other types of motor. (But more than stepper motors, as used in Smart Drive) Induction motors have the biggest surge, up to ten times the running current depending which particular type of induction motor. (Keymatics have a killer) My solar power system can supply 1500 watts constant draw and 3600 watts for a five second surge, so the Philips doesn't actually overload my system, just it wastes so much power that I would have to run the backup generator.
Both of my machines have/had a seperate temp control. I always had it set to cold to stop the heater coming on, and I made up a "Y" adapter so I could connect it to hot and cold fill, adjusting fill temp by adjusting the taps.
Chris.
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Post# 28316-3/30/2003-21:46 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: caloric washers????
MESSAGE: Good question! I know that Caloric sold gas ranges and dishwashers, but I never heard of a Caloric washer. It would be interesting to find out if they also sold washers with the Caloric brand name.
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Post# 28317-3/30/2003-21:48 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: o'Keefe Merritt
MESSAGE: Try AntiqueAppliances.com. They're in Georgia. Here's a link:
http://www.antiqueappliances.com
LINK: http://www.antiqueappliances.com
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Post# 28318-3/30/2003-22:50 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
Sunday's trip
MESSAGE: Got to meet Philippe today. Here are some pics.
Steve1-18
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/steve1_18_2003/lst?.dir=/Philippe%27s+Collection&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/steve1_18_2003/vwp%3f.dir=/Philippe%2527s%2bCollection%26.dnm=Skinny%2bKenmore.jpg%26.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 28319-3/30/2003-22:59 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Thor automatic clothes&dishwasher ad
MESSAGE: Here is a link to a Thor manual I scanned some time ago.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/happyhotpoint/lst?.dir=/Thor+Automagic+Manual&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 28320-3/30/2003-23:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT A WEEK!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Is great. That maytag dryer is early 60s at latest. That wasn't BOL. A dryer with temps like that was more advanced. BTW, did you get the Avocado wall ovens & cooktop???
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Post# 28321-3/30/2003-23:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday's trip
MESSAGE: Steve thanks for the pix. It was very nice to finally put a face with the name Philippe. I wish ou had taken pics of the insides of the Kenmores.
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Post# 28322-3/31/2003-00:54 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Bewitched)
MESSAGE: But before the show moved to Morning Glory Circle, there was an apartment or house with a TOL coppertone pushbutton Maytag laundry pair.
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Post# 28323-3/31/2003-01:53 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: also sq twin tub. (Thrift Store Frigidaire Washer buys:)
MESSAGE: I would guess somewhere between $15.00 to $45.00, depending on if the Thrift Store claims that it works, according to their standards. You might talk to a Manager or Supervisor and let them know you are a Member of the Club Site and if you might be able to purchase them "As-Is" for a lessor amount. Did you see the recent Post from someone who was going on Holiday and had given info to a Store's Owner's or Manager's {whichever} and they called him with some info about having some certain Brands they were looking for? I'm sure that they wouldn't mind helping out, if not, find another one that will let you buy "As-Is" from them. Good Luck with your search.
My best to you, Steve "Sacto Teddy Bear"
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Post# 28324-3/31/2003-02:09 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances)
MESSAGE: Yep - Bradys had Whirlpools, a Thermador oven, a GE Americana fridge, and you couldnt see the dishwasher, but it was kinda sorta implied that they had one.
The Partridges: a front loading Kenmore washer/dryer combo in coppertone. Although may63 didnt ask, the kitchen appliances are Magic Chef. Youre welcome.
Bewitched: The Cravitzes had a TOL Maytag washer and dryer.
Major Nelson & Jeanie: Magic Chef kitchen appliances and Maytag pushbuttons for laundry. This was in early episodes; not sure about later shows.
Leave it to Beaver: Frigidaire washer and GE dryer; GE kitchen appliances in the new house; not sure about the old house.
Father Knows Best: Not quite sure what those front loaders were. I always thought they were Bendix, but an Applianceville member identified them as something else I cant remember. Terrific custom electric range; wish I knew what it was.
Courtship of Eddie's Father: Frigidaire Jetcone washing machine.
The Danny Thomas Show: Early 60s GE washer and dryer.
The New Dick Van Dyke Show: Harvest Gold Westinghouse front loader, a console model with matching dryer.
Rhoda: In early episodes, there is a whole laundry room full of vintage appliances. Later episodes, strictly Speed Queen commercial.
The Jeffersons: Has to be an apartment since the kitchen equipment is completely supplied by GE. The basement laundry room used Speed Queen coin op stuff.
Speaking of commercial laundries, Julia, All in the Family, Friends, Seinfeld, and Northern Exposure all featured Maytags in episodes set in laundromats.
The Cosby Show: Kitchen and laundry done in toast-colored Whirlpools. What was with all that weirdness having a recessed surface unit cooktop, but you cant see the wall oven they surely have to have, but is ostensibly under the counter? Later episodes featured TOL GE washer and dryer. And *puhleez*: it takes a doctor with a penchant for gadgets a and lawyer pulling down big bucks and with a house full of fine furniture and antiques a major remodel of the kitchen before they buy a microwave oven? And it is 6 years before Dad the gadget freak buys a compact disc player? At least there was that fine fireplace to save that whacked out kitchen.
90210: Very nice top-line GE kitchen stuff. In a spring break trip to a beach condo, a very nice KitchenAid superba DW is featured, but I cant remember if the cookers are Jenn Aire, Thermador, or a combination of both.
Grace Under Fire: A deluxe Whirlpool dishwasher obviously shared with The Cosby Show, and a TOL Maytag set which was probably lifted from the Bewitched set.
Eight is Enough: Magic Chef cooking equipment, Amana refrigerator, Amana Radarange microwave, and Speed Queen washer and dryer, all in avocado.
Absolutely Fabulous: Various Applianceville members have identified at least one of Edina's various washing machines as Zanussi. The fridge looks to be a Frigidaire like the one you see in the movie "Notting Hill"...but I could be wrong. In one episode, there is a brief camera shot where we see a flash of what looks like an Asko dishwasher. Other scenes I have seen with people standing at the sink are either filmed frontally, or there is no DW shown.
Maude: Magic Chef kitchen equipment.
Mama's Family: I hated the kitchen in later episodes, which got rid of the way-cool Frigidaire washer and Kenmore pushbutton dryer and Sears top loading dishwasher. The dryer in newer episodes was obviously KM, but I could never tell if the washer was GE or not. At least Thelma got to keep her equally rad pink Coldspot.
Were Aunt Bea's prize washer and dryer Maytag pushbuttons as well? When Andy buys a laundromat franchise, are those Whirlpools?
Those are just the shows I remember with appliances I can (almost) name. Anyone want to weigh in on Donna Reed, I Love Lucy and Hazel? Anybody want to rehash for our newest members what those appliances are on Knots Landing and Dallas? They look like Magic Chef, but that's not what I remember their being identified as.
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Post# 28325-3/31/2003-02:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday's trip
MESSAGE: Thank you Steve, Always nice to see the face behind the name. I guess that is a basement where the washers are? I like the lighting too, washers deserve good lighting!
Louis
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Post# 28326-3/31/2003-04:43 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday's trip (In the south we call it a Pole Barn )
MESSAGE: Louis & fellow Club members
Since I live in A Swamp a Basement is quite out of the question. Here you dig down four feet and hit the water table. This is what is called a pole barn slowly I will be enclosing it somewhat since building codes prevent me from doing this since I live in a flood plain.
Steve, Rhinnie and I had a very nice visit and Steve had the tools to help me remove the water bellows from the frigidaire jet action. Now to remove that top nut that holds down the water bellows it’s being stubborn. Soon I will be posting interior shots of all the machines. This has been a fantastic site for camaraderie and information.. I never start a day out with out visiting this site first I welcome any other member who happens to be in the area to come by for a visit
Steve thanks for posting picture for me
And AS for lighting yes Hyacinth Bucket can eat her heart out the frigidiare deserves a chandelier.
Happy washing to y’all
Philippe
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Post# 28327-3/31/2003-04:49 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday's trip (In the south we call it a Pole Barn )
MESSAGE: I was thinking about Hyacinth when I wrote about the lighting. LOL!!!
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Post# 28328-3/31/2003-06:22 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances)
MESSAGE: Speaking of the Brady's ... did you ever notice that in some episodes they have a gas cook top and in others its electric? (Marcia actually reminds Mike that they have an electric stove in one episode.)
Donna Reed is tricky, because that's another show where they went through a kitchen remodel. (There's a whole episode devoted to the remodel.) I believe that the stove in the earlier episodes is a Norge. I also think that they had a non-time line Norge washer and dryer. The washer may have even been a Dispensomat (sp?). I also have a very vague childhood memory of seeing an episode of Donna Reed that a) was in color and b) where a very big deal is made about a new washer/dryer combo. I keep hoping that this particular episode will turn up on cable, but that's unlikely since the color episodes are never shown (unfortunately).
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Post# 28329-3/31/2003-07:17 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday's trip
MESSAGE: How fun - looks like you had a great time! Good to see more faces of members too!
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Post# 28330-3/31/2003-07:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances)
MESSAGE: Does anyone remember the episode of the Odd Couple where they both had dates and something was going on in the apartment so they gathered all their laundry and took the girls down to the laundry room with some wine and candles? I don't remember the equipment, but it was quite a thrill on that show since there wasn't much to see for appliances normally...
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Post# 28331-3/31/2003-07:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT A WEEK!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Vacation and new appliances - that new shed will be full in no time!
Take care and have a great time!
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Post# 28332-3/31/2003-07:50 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances)
MESSAGE: Lucy Ricardo had Westinghouse electric kitchen appliances (including the fm-911 food crafter mixer which sat right on the shelf by the swinging door) until they moved into Spaulding's apartment downstairs so they had a seperate bedroom or little Ricky. In this apartment I believe the stove was a gas Roper the fridge was still Westinghouse and the mixer was A Mixmaster model 10. As for Donna Reed in the early episodes I know Donna had a 58 Rca Whirlpool Laundry Pair as I saw the fronts of them in a couple of episodes where Jeff is sitting at the table and there are right behind him. I also recentlyy saw an episode of Father Knows Best where the Andersons bought a new circa 1952 Westinghouse washer. The youngest daughter Kathy starts washing everything in sight including Betty's dress she was gonna wear as Street Commisioner in the annual Youth Government day as well as the mail which included the bill for the washer and Bud's summons to the police headquaters. In the circa 1976 Father Knows Beat Reunion Margret Anderson has a Coppertone Kenmore Combo. As for the Brady Bunch the gas cooktop and wall oven didn't show up until the last season but has anyone noticed that the gas cooktop was yellow (doesn't look harvest gold to me) and not avacado or chrome?
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Post# 28333-3/31/2003-08:01 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
New (to me, anyway) HE Detergents
MESSAGE: Happy Monday, gang! While cruising the detergent aisle at a WalMart Supercenter in Mankato, MN, I was astonished to find a veritable shrine to HE detergents at the end of the row. Not only did they stock the Tide & Wisk HE workhorses, but Cheer and Gain HE as well. I tried the Cheer and found it produced less suds than either Tide or Wisk. I have mechanically softened water and have always had to put a little fabric softener in each load to cut the suds in the final rinse of my front-loader. With the Cheer, I didn't have to. Anyone else seen/tried Cheer or Gain HE?
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Post# 28334-3/31/2003-08:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: New (to me, anyway) HE Detergents (to HE or not to HE)
MESSAGE: I've used WiskHE a few times and while it cleans good. I think there's more HE than Wisk. It's less detergent and more suds inhibitor.
I'm going to try some cheer he when I run out of Purex. I didn't like the Gain smell too much. Again, you have to give the machine full doses (ie: a whole cap full or to the 2nd line) to make it work.
Regular Purex liquid or the tabs work great in the Frigemore. It's ultra concentrated and no extra suds inhibitor. You can use up to the first line of liquid for the really big loads and back off a little for the smaller loads. It has a light scent that doesn't stay with the clothes when they come out. Purex is a lot cheaper too. Did I mention it CLEANS? Yes, it cleans and whitens beautifully. My towels look like they're bleached but they were just washed in purex. $2.99 a bottle on sale at Albertson's.
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Post# 28335-3/31/2003-08:09 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday's trip (In the south we call it a Pole Barn )
MESSAGE: Cool collection. I remember those Kenmore 600s and 70 models were EVERYWHERE! Just your basic 3 water level, 3 temp, 3 cycle machines, but they had the RotoSwirl and the cool "grind-click" noise, and built like tanks.
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Post# 28336-3/31/2003-08:24 ||| Lynnski (Western Mass)
SUBJECT:
Question about Universal Gas Stove
MESSAGE: I loved the ad for the combination stove/dishwasher! I have a Universal brand gas stove with precisely the same design--dials, logo, burners, etc. Can anyone help me with these questions? (1) the ad cites "skyscraper construcion" --any idea what that means? (2) My old stove is missing one handle--where might I be able to find a replacement? (BTW, the handles are the only thing that appears different in the ad and in my stove. Oh, and the fact that mine has a broiler instead of a James dishwasher.) And (3) the floor of the broiler drawer is made up of concentric metal rings, several of which are removable. Any idea why, or what purpose they serve?
My stove has not been refurbished, but it works great and I use it every day. I'd really appreciate any help with these questions.
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Post# 28337-3/31/2003-12:14 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: New (to me, anyway) HE Detergents (to HE or not to HE)
MESSAGE: I bought Purex liquid for the first time (because of you guys) and have been quite pleased with it so far.
I now share Maytags with other people in my condo, but when I owned a house I had a front loader Fridgemore and preferred Wisk HE for that.
Jim
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Post# 28338-3/31/2003-12:18 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances)
MESSAGE: I think Aunt Bea won a pair of Whirlpools.
Jim
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Post# 28339-3/31/2003-13:51 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re; Gibson FL Washer Reverse-Tumble & Stack W-Westinghouse Gas Dryer: (reverse-tumbling)
MESSAGE: It is a 1984 Italian import with the Sears name on it. By all accounts, this is a Zanuzzi machine. Wonderful washer. John in DC has one like it in one of the warehouses as an Admiral or Gibson branded machine. Next time I have the camera out, I'll get a pic of it.
-ph
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Post# 28340-3/31/2003-14:05 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (congrats)
MESSAGE: Now, THAT'S a Norge!!! Wonderful machine!!! And that is the 1-18 WCI and DECI machines that I have in parts.
The Kenmore has the Roto Swirl with scrubber cap. There were a number of these machines on the Farm.
-ph
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Post# 28341-3/31/2003-14:10 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: WHAT A WEEK!!!!!!! (New Finds!)
MESSAGE: Congrats to you Steve, and thanks for the photos. Does the Kenmore pictured have a Suds saver? I found the top console to one of those, and have it stored if you ever need parts.
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Post# 28342-3/31/2003-14:15 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday's trip (In the south we call it a Pole Barn )
MESSAGE: Jasonl,
I have the Kenmore manual for the Model 70, 600, 500, and 400 in one book.
As for the 70 Model, it has 3 cycles plus suds saver, infinite water level,
5 wash/rinse temperatures (W/C-W/W-C/C-H/W-H/C), Plus liquid bleach dispenser.
Off balance switch.
Roto-Swirl agitator with agitator scrubber cap.
Model 600, has 3 cycles plus suds saver,
5 wash/rinse combo (W/C-W/W-C/C-H/W-H/C) and 3 water levels.
Off balance switch.
Super-Roto-Swirl agitator.
Model 500 has 3 cycles plus suds saver,
1 water level, 3 wash and 2 rinse temperatures,
auto warm rinse temperatures when using hot and warm wash, cold rinse only on cold wash and must be manually reset if cold water is desire for hot and warm wash.
Straight Vane agitator.
Model 400 has 1 cycle, 1 water level,
3 wash and 2 rinse temperatures,
auto warm rinse temperatures when using hot and warm wash, cold rinse only on cold wash and must be manually reset if cold water is desire for hot and warm wash.
Straight Vane agitator.
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Post# 28343-3/31/2003-14:24 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances)
MESSAGE: Third Rock From the Sun: A 70's Kenmore washer & dryer. The back of the control panel can be seen thru the kitchen window with the telltail fluorescent light ballast/started sticking thru. They recently showed the episode where the washer breaks and they discover the laundromat (GE's). I thought there would be a shot of a hunky repairman working on the washer and Sally seducing him, but no such luck...
Nanny and the Professor: There was a scene when one of the boys brings home a large fish and hides it in the washer. I thought it was a Norge, but I remember the knobs being on the front, like a Blackstone. Anyone remember?
-ph
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Post# 28344-3/31/2003-14:29 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday's trip (In the south we call it a Pole Barn )
MESSAGE: Cleanteam, can you help explain the numbering system for these models? Why 70(2 number)and 500 (3 number)? I'm guessing they were all made by whirlpool. Did it have anything to do with the type of wash system?
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Post# 28345-3/31/2003-14:52 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday's trip (In the south we call it a Pole Barn (700 is the model))
MESSAGE: I'm not sure why Sears numbered the model 70 in the manual, but it should have read 700 which is an typo error. For at that time it was the TOL before the 800 arrived.
I have the parts list for the 500 series. (110.6604500)
and if we just change the last three digits, we can see the listing for all 4 models.
I've tried to find that model using Sears.com for parts and if you did not mentioned it, I would have been lost also.....
Sorry fellas!
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Post# 28346-3/31/2003-15:02 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
More Pics.
MESSAGE: Hi All!,
Just wanted to let you know that I have posted more pics on my Member Links file. Pics of my 59' GE in the GE file and a couple of the WCD60' with new top and lights on. Some of the 1960 Pics will not upload for some reason. Maybe it's Yahoo trouble, I will try again later. I also upgraded my account so that you may see all the pics in Full Size. There is much more detail in the photos now, especially the consoles.
Enjoy!
Bruce
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Post# 28347-3/31/2003-15:17 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday's trip (In the south we call it a Pole Barn (to clear things up))
MESSAGE: To clear things up:
I said for model 500 and 400;
"3 wash and 2 rinse temperatures, auto warm rinse temperatures when using hot and warm wash, cold rinse only on cold wash and must be manually reset if cold water is desire for hot and warm wash."
I've meant to say:
3 wash and 2 rinse temperatures,
auto warm rinse temperatures when using hot and warm wash, cold rinse only on cold wash and must be manually reset to cold/cold if cold water is desire for hot and warm wash.
Model 500 and 400 didn't have auto flexibility when it comes to the rinse cycle like the model 700 and 600.
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Post# 28348-3/31/2003-15:22 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: More Pics.
MESSAGE: Bruce, thanks for the update!
It's a possibility that the new photos must be converted into Jpegs on your hard drive in order for the Yahoo briefcase to accept the photos from your system. Just check and take a look.
Larry
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Post# 28349-3/31/2003-16:02 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sunday's trip (In the south we call it a Pole Barn (to clear things up))
MESSAGE: I did it again!
Mistake after mistake after.......
This is what I really meant to say:
3 wash and 2 rinse temperatures,
auto warm rinse temperatures when using hot and warm wash, cold rinse only on cold wash and must be manually reset after wash fills to cold/cold if cold water rinse is desired after the hot and warm water wash temperatures.
Model 500 and 400 didn't have auto flexibility when it comes to the rinse cycle like the model 700 and 600.
Now I've got it right!
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Post# 28350-3/31/2003-19:35 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
Westinghouse maintenance workshop
MESSAGE: Classic Appliances South East (CASE) will be meeting May 3rd for our second meeting. I will be sending out more information as the date approaches.
The meeting will be a workshop. It will be at George Donaldson's (GEODON) home. (Marietta, GA)
We will replace the boot, belts and lubricate the washer and clean, lubricate and replace the belt on the dryer. Then we will move the washer and dryer upstairs to the laundry room.
If you are interested in attending, please contact Steve 1-18 at applianceville@comcast.net
Steve 1-18
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Post# 28351-3/31/2003-21:29 ||| mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Mini-Washing Fun (Boy that reminds me...)
MESSAGE: It's almost time for me to start on my summer project GE Filter Flo! Maybe I'll have that critter sudzing up the laundry room instead of the Crosly.
And yes, I have found me a source for a minibasket too. Double the pleasure....!
MrCoffee
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Post# 28352-3/31/2003-21:45 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances)
MESSAGE: You're right that gas cooktop was yellow and not harvest gold, which is kind of odd considering that the fridge was avocado.
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Post# 28353-3/31/2003-21:47 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances)
MESSAGE: I remember that episode. The washers were slant front, square windowed, front loaders. I wonder if they were Westies?
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Post# 28354-3/31/2003-21:49 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
E bay Whirlpool washer-home at last!
MESSAGE: Hey! My E bay Whirlpool washer from Lancaster, S.Carolina came home yesterday morning in a rented 2003 Bravada.Appx 1700 mile round trip to Fort Wayne,Indiana. My niece Amanda enjoyed the road trip,she got to see the mountains. The washer is in good condition mechanicly,other than a few water drips underneith.All parts are there,even the brush-like filter.I ran it through the normal cycle 2 times with soap to try to clean it,then let it chug through a small load of clothes. The sounds it makes are fun! I had forgotton the "ner-chink" "ner-chink" and the CLUNK! as the transmition shifts! My mother had a 54 and then a 58 Kenmore,so I remember those sounds! Anyway I think the Whirlpool/Kenmore machines have a lot of personality! The machine needs a lot of cleanup to the cabinet,including much paint overspray to the left side,and top,and some deep scratches.(funny they didn't mention that on the E-bay ad...) I am trying to decide to try to save,or repaint the cabinet.Also I have located all the parts I need to repair the leak,and with the photos of Unimatic's 57 Kenmore I think I can repair the leaks. I have a problem though,and am looking for some advice.The adgitator is stuck on and won't budge,I have removed the cap,and sprayed WD40 on it and let it soak for two day's.Any advice from you experts is greatly appriciated. By the way,this machine looks like the machine that is listed as a 1961 Whirlpool in the cyber museam.So I would say it is late 1950's to early 1960's. Thank you.
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Post# 28355-3/31/2003-21:54 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances)
MESSAGE: It's not on TV Land, but on Please Don't Eat the Daisies (the TV show not the Dois Day movie) they had a Maytag. If I remember correctly, it was an A-606. It was white and was in the basement. There was no dryer next to it so they must have hung the wash out to dry
I don't remember the kind of appliances that Hazel had, but I do remember that one of her friend's took Thanksgiving Day off because it was her regular day off. The couple that she worked for were neighbors. Hazel tries to teach them how to cook their own Thanksgiving dinner. The wife uses a teaspoon to baste the turkey! They wound up having Thanksgiving dinner at Hazel's. Judging from the pushbutton controls on that turquoise 40 incher, she was using a GE when she tried to cook that turkey!
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Post# 28356-3/31/2003-22:08 ||| mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT:
RE: Question about Front Loading Reverse Tumble (Tumble action wringers!?! (Maytag))
MESSAGE: There are some appliance dealers who have those on display. As an antique, they really don't have much collector value. An old Maytag model E2L has a better chance of keeping its resale value. Not only that, but you can still put one to good use! I use mine at least once every other month.
There are, or were a couple top-loading machines that used the type of barrel that the one in the link had. However, I am not sure of the companies existance. Better to go with an HE-3T (Whirlpool).
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Post# 28357-3/31/2003-22:13 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (congrats)
MESSAGE: thank you Peter !! Roto swirl thats it, thats what you call it, I had forgot.......... :-)
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Post# 28358-3/31/2003-23:04 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances)
MESSAGE: The oldest of the Hazel episodes had a Duomatic (as did Dennis the Menace, I believe).
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Post# 28359-3/31/2003-23:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances)
MESSAGE: But Greg, wasn't the double oven on the Odd Couple a Frigidaire???
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Post# 28360-3/31/2003-23:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New (to me, anyway) HE Detergents
MESSAGE: Well I was at Wal-Mart today, here in the south. There were LESS powdered detergents and more liquids (ugh). They did have a "shrine" to all the variations of Gain, including Gaine HE for $.98. I picked up a box after I'd intially picked up a 7 load box of Ariel. But I'd get more loads of Gain for my money than the Airel so I put the Ariel back. They had no Fab powder at all. ONE box of Purex bpowder. Lots of Tide powder as well as Arm & Hammer and a couple of private label brands. The rest, liquids.
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Post# 28361-3/31/2003-23:49 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: New (to me, anyway) HE Detergents (to HE or not to HE)
MESSAGE: Jason, unfortunately, the Purex liquid I have appears to be making me itch and break out in small areas of a rash. I have a scent that has lingered in my otwels cabinet for almost two weeks with each new towel & wash cloth I use. I do like the slight scent.
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Post# 28362-4/1/2003-00:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
Apex dishwasher in my past
MESSAGE: My parents were here this weekend. I inquired about the rumour we'd had a dishwasher briefly long before the 1959 Waste King. Sure enuf, we did, an Apex that was acquired when I was a baby from my "Grandparents" in Dallas that got rid of this when they "remodeled" their kitchen in 1955 or so to include the Youngstown dishwasher I later got to use frequently as well as the Bendix Washer & Dryer. My dad said it didn't last long in the house, didn't work well and had a cumbersome gravity drain that didn't work well with our plumbing arrangement pl;us it didn't help that they used regular dishwashing liquid the first time--hence clean floors in the kitchen from all the suds.
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Post# 28363-4/1/2003-00:34 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances)
MESSAGE: What kind of wall oven was that in their kitchen?
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Post# 28364-4/1/2003-00:36 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances - Donna Reed)
MESSAGE: I also cant make out what brand dishwasher that is that shows up in the new kitchen.
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Post# 28365-4/1/2003-00:38 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances - The Ricardos)
MESSAGE: And then there was the famous used washing machine episode. Am I correct that what is called Epermay is actually a Maytag in disguise? I am guessing the washer and dryer featured in the Lucy-Desi Comedy Hour episodes are Westinghouse also?
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Post# 28366-4/1/2003-00:41 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (congrats)
MESSAGE: Lots on the farm...and that's why if it wasnt a 24-hour damn drive for me and I had 4x4 traction to handle that mud hole of a farm, I wouldve gone and grabbed me one. *sigh*
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Post# 28367-4/1/2003-00:44 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances)
MESSAGE: OMG, I forgot about that, and there was this portable KM or WP in the garage underneath.
Speaking of Norge, I knew there was a show I left off my list: Give it up for My Three Sons and their BOL 1959 Norges. After all these years, I still have not caught the episode where Dad tries to do wash, and the Norge "eats" him alive.
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Post# 28368-4/1/2003-00:49 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances - Odd Couple)
MESSAGE: Now I think about it, that may have been a Frigidaire. There werent many wall ovens I can remember that had lighted control panels. Hardwick made one, as did Frigidaire. Some Magic Chef models may have also, but maybe not.
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Post# 28369-4/1/2003-08:01 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
Any Carolina collections?
MESSAGE: Just checking to see if any one lives in or near Charlotte North Carolina.
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Post# 28370-4/1/2003-08:30 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
AEG spinner
MESSAGE: Here is a pic of the AEG spinner given to me a few months ago.
Made in Germany
Sold in Holland (Labelled in Dutch)
Found in Australia
For once it looks better in the photo than in the flesh - the chrome top has lots of pitting and rust.
Chris.
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst?.dir=/AEG+spinner&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 28371-4/1/2003-08:33 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: E bay Whirlpool washer-home at last!
MESSAGE: Hi Rick,
Glad you got her home. Whirlpools are my favorite =) Was it transported on its side? I think i read somewhere that a long trip like that is hard on the seals etc but who cares you can fix it =) At our appliance stores in san diego they have a thing called an AgiTamer its some kind of thing that fits around the base of the agitator and you can pull it up, obviously be sure you remove the screw thats below that cap and maybe try out that Agi-Tamer. Best wishes!
~Steven
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Post# 28372-4/1/2003-08:34 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
Keymatic
MESSAGE: And here are a few preliminary pics of the Keymatic I found last week. It is "as found", I haven't had time to clean it up at all...
I have more photos which I will post very soon, including some shots of its innards. I have had a big day and I'm exceptionally tired, so the rest will have to wait.
Best Wishes
Chris
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst?.dir=/Hoover+Keymatic&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 28373-4/1/2003-08:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: AEG spinner (Classic)
MESSAGE: Well Chris,
That is a real classic one. I think it's from the early sixties. This is a spinner from the generation after the ones in the fifties brochure I scanned. It looks quite similar to the AEG Junior from the fifties, but it's just a bit lower. Besides that yours has the handle over the lid. Fortunately yours still has the glass lid, later models had plastic lids in brown or white or perhaps even another color.
Louis
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Post# 28374-4/1/2003-08:48 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Keymatic (YAY!!!)
MESSAGE: Wow Chris, what a beauty! That's exactly the same one that was offered me a few years ago. What a nice machine. Thank you for sharing the pictures now even while you're tired.
Take care,
Louis
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Post# 28375-4/1/2003-08:58 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse maintenance workshop (YaY! Can't Wait!)
MESSAGE: Steve,
Thanks for the information!
This sounds like it will be so much fun!
I will be there!
A BIG thanks also to George! Thanks for hosting us!
Brent
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Post# 28376-4/1/2003-09:19 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
RE: E bay Whirlpool washer-home at last!
MESSAGE: Yes it was transported on it's side,but didn't leak any oil. The machine sounds good,and the mechanics are clean,and oil stain free.In fact it looks better underneith,than the outside. I will get this machine done up right.If I choose to repaint,it will be a professional job,not spray cans.The water leak is very minor,but needs to be repaired,as it will cause rust to the mechanics.This machine sat in a shed for many years unused.Thank's for the advice on the agitator removal.I will call our appliance repair shop on Agi-Tamer availability.
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Post# 28377-4/1/2003-09:41 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse maintenance workshop (coveralls encouraged...i love a man in uniform...)
MESSAGE: it's my pleasure to host the workshop...can't wait to get the westys working...
lots of food and beverage provided...
i will be selling the frigemore, rear controls with a tweaked water level, and the kenmore dryer, 7.2 capacity electric, if anyone's interested...
btw, we have a new appliance/electronics chain opening here called h.h.gregg...they have the new lg front loaders, with a demo to play with...very very pretty...
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Post# 28378-4/1/2003-09:45 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
RE: E bay Whirlpool washer-home at last!
MESSAGE: Update to Steven: I just called the appliance parts store,and they said they never heard of that agi-tamer tool.He did say however,that I should remove the adgitator any way possible,even to break it if needed.They have tons of used "Super Surgilator" adgitators for dirt cheap. I will however,try to save the original.Thanks again! Rick
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Post# 28379-4/1/2003-09:54 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse maintenance workshop (coveralls encouraged...i love a man in uniform...)
MESSAGE: Oh my goodness, a party with a dresscode! And are those coveralls going to be washed later?
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Post# 28380-4/1/2003-10:47 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: E bay Whirlpool washer-home at last!
MESSAGE: You may need to break the seal if it is rusted by banging the top and side of the agitator post with a rubber mallot and then pulling straight up from the base, just don't throw your back out by doing so....
LINK: http://www.appliancepartsonline.net/toolagitamer.html
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Post# 28381-4/1/2003-10:54 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Keymatic
MESSAGE: Chris, very interesting machine. I understand the "card" concept, but can you actually make your own "cards" to change the cycles? Did the cards control whole cycle or just speeds etc. Looking forward to more pix!
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Post# 28382-4/1/2003-10:56 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse maintenance workshop (hhgregg / geodon2000?)
MESSAGE: George,
Where did you get your information?
Is it going to be near you?
Sounds like a interesting place. Prices look close to Best Buy prices.
I did not see anything about them coming to Atlanta on the internet site.
Brent
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Post# 28383-4/1/2003-10:58 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: E bay Whirlpool washer-home at last!
MESSAGE: Neat gadget! I can see a super roto swirl firing off through the overhead like a scud if you were too enthusiastic with the water pressure!!
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Post# 28384-4/1/2003-11:02 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse maintenance workshop (hhgregg / geodon2000?)
MESSAGE: Brent, they have started advertising on TV. Saw first ad last night on WSB. Pretty good ad too. I think I saw that there are going to be 3 of them in Metro area. Fayetteville, N. Cobb, Southlake and maybe more. (I must learn to count!) I hope they are going to be like that place that was out on I85 "appliance universe"? That was a great store too bad they didn't make it.
Tom
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Post# 28385-4/1/2003-11:22 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse maintenance workshop (hhgregg / geodon2000?)
MESSAGE: brent...
i'll answer quickly before i'm whisked away to the sandbox...
i happened to be in the southlake area on mt. zion rd. this weekend, and the store was open...
several dishwashers were "live" as well as the lg...what fun...
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Post# 28386-4/1/2003-11:25 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse maintenance workshop (coveralls encouraged...i love a man in uniform...)
MESSAGE: absolutely...
the maiden load for the westys...
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Post# 28387-4/1/2003-11:56 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse maintenance workshop (hhgregg / geodon2000?)
MESSAGE: Thanks George!
I'm going to go check it out this weekend.
Brent
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Post# 28388-4/1/2003-13:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse maintenance workshop (hhgregg / geodon2000?)
MESSAGE: There's one up near Towne Center Mall (Kennesaw) also. They have been advertising heavily on Fox 5. "Family owned" is being touted as a reason they are so good. Reminds me of the huge appliance/electronics store in Omaha.
-ph
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Post# 28389-4/1/2003-13:38 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (oven/refriegerator combo)
MESSAGE: Whirlpool
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Post# 28390-4/1/2003-14:08 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Keymatic (Keyplates at the Ready!!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris
Great looking machine, cheers for posting the pics, sure looks a solid machine, you must be tired lugging all that cast iron around.....never noticed the Hoover logo was on the opposite side to the "Blue" one, which I think correct me if I`m wrong was the first model made, this being the second...
Just found an add this week for the Bluey.....talk about "His and Hers"
Cheers
Mike
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/chestermikeuk/vwp?.dir=/Hoover&.src=ph&.dnm=Hoover+Keymatic+Add2.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/chestermikeuk/lst%3f%26.dir=/Hoover%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28391-4/1/2003-14:14 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Keymatic
MESSAGE: Great machine Chris!.
Does it tumble like a FL ?.
Stupid question maybe, but I have never seen one before.
Bruce
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Post# 28392-4/1/2003-14:20 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
Turquois Lady's
MESSAGE: Just wanted to let you all know that I will be taking delivery tomorrow on the Lady K's.
I will get pics up ASAP.
Bruce
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Post# 28393-4/1/2003-14:27 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: E bay Whirlpool washer-home at last!
MESSAGE: Rick,
I would try another appliance parts store. I know I have seen them around here. If you want to, you could try a strap, sort of like a seat belt material. Loop the end under the base of the agitator as far to the center as possible, and with both sides of the straps, pull up. Just be carefull not to knock yourself out with the agitator if it comes up too quickly.
It is a nice machine.
Good Luck
Bruce
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Post# 28394-4/1/2003-14:38 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances - Odd Couple)
MESSAGE: My parents have a 1972(?) Roper double walloven that has a lighted panel -- not fluorescent, though, it's a little incandescent bulb.
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Post# 28395-4/1/2003-15:38 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances - The Ricardos)
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friends, I'm inputting my 2-cents worth, but I don't think that the Washer named an Epermay in "I Love Lucy" is actually a Maytag in disguise, because that Washer used in the Show had a round Window in the Lid, similar to a Kelvinator Washer and I've never known about any Maytag's having a Window in the Lid. I've also never seen any Washer having grab Handles on both sides of it like that one had to move it around with either. If anyone knows of a Maytag having a Window in the Lid and grab Handles on the sides and being a Top-Load Washer, I would like to see a Photo of it, if anyone might have one available.
Best to all, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 28396-4/1/2003-15:58 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (Great looking Norge)
MESSAGE: Hmm, maybe Norge isn't all it's (pardon the pun), "cracked" up to be? :-)
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Post# 28397-4/1/2003-16:06 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: ("
Bewitched"
dishwasher)
MESSAGE: I remember noticing that dishwasher on the very first episode of Bewitched. I think it's a Sears top-loading portable, and I have the same model without the window. They are impeller machines with a spray tube to make the upper basket rotate. And of course, Samantha later got to cook on one of those beautiful Frigidaire Flair ranges. My Father bought one for his Mom in the early 60's, and it would always draw comments from visiting friends of hers.
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Post# 28398-4/1/2003-16:15 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (great agitator)
MESSAGE: I notice that the Norge has a separaate lint filter. When I was working at Montgomery Wards in the early 70's, their Signature line made by Norge used a lint filter that sat atop the agitator GE-style. The agitator was hollow and had holes in base next to the fins. As the agitator would oscillate, water would be pushed up the hollow agitator and out into the filter. There was a demonstration pair hooked up and I used to "play" with them during slack times at night. I distinctly remember only hearing one BANG when lid was raised during spin. A friend also owned a pair of these and they only made one bang, also.
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Post# 28399-4/1/2003-16:27 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Bewitched Kitchen Appliances)
MESSAGE: Since we're on the subject of TV kitchens, who knows what appliances were in the Cleaver's kitchen before and after the "makeover"? And brand of washer was it that Wally and Beaver put too much detergent in and had to clean up before their parents got home in one episode?
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Post# 28400-4/1/2003-16:31 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV appliances)
MESSAGE: I noticed Granny Clampett's all push button Maytags right away. I think they were changed to the dial type in later episodes. Peg Bundy's machines are Kenmores
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Post# 28401-4/1/2003-16:33 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV appliances)
MESSAGE: Anybody remember what brand Mama's (Mama's Family) bottom freezer refrigerator, range, and washer dryer set were?
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Post# 28402-4/1/2003-16:35 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Link to Norge and Kenmore (mildew & cat pee)
MESSAGE: Ii think just a run with hot water, detergent and a heavy dose of bleach will do the trick.
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Post# 28403-4/1/2003-17:39 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV appliances)
MESSAGE: On Mama's Family the washer/dryer were late 60's Kenmores. I could be wrong on the year but they were Kenmore's. The Frige I am not sure or the stove since I always watched to see if she would do laundry on some episode.
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Post# 28404-4/1/2003-18:06 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: E bay Whirlpool washer-home at last! (Stuck agitator)
MESSAGE: Is the agitator splined directly to the shaft or is there a foursided block the agitator fits on? In the case of the latter, that block is splined to the shaft. I've heard of putting an inner tube under the agitatir and inflating it. In the meantimie, just keepp soaking and tapping the side of the agitator at the top with a rubber mallet.
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Post# 28405-4/1/2003-18:16 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse maintenance workshop (Frigemore)
MESSAGE: I keep seeing this, what the hell is a "Frigemore"? A FL Frigidaire with Kenmore name?
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Post# 28406-4/1/2003-19:16 ||| drmitch (West Tennessee)
SUBJECT:
What year were these made? POD
MESSAGE: I was wondering when dishwashers were first produced.This weekend I went to a moving sale looking for an old washer and dryer, but it turned out the house was next door to a laundrymat!Well I walked into the kitchen and there was a Westinghouse dishwasher, a Builtin top loading, very dirty but the chrome was good and it had no dents. When I asked about it the lady said she had lived there 45 years and had tried to use it once and it leaked and she said I could have it.I an waiting for her to call me when she gets ready to move.
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Post# 28407-4/1/2003-19:16 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse maintenance workshop (Frigemore (Electrolux))
MESSAGE: This is a name that is used by people who owns the same (look a like model) machine under different brand name.
Fri {Frigidaire}
Ge {General Electric}
More {Kenmore}
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Post# 28408-4/1/2003-19:30 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV appliances)
MESSAGE: Her refrigerator was a Kelvinator, and she had a Sears dryer, not sure about the washer. Seems like there was always a laundry basket or something sitting on top of it.
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Post# 28409-4/1/2003-19:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: What year were these made? POD
MESSAGE: Dr. Mitch, I believe dishwashers for home use first appeared in the 1930s, and like a lot of new inventions, never really had a chance to get off the ground before the war. They started up again aferwards and started coming into their own in the early 1950s. I believe Hobart made the first KA home machine about 1948.
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Post# 28410-4/1/2003-19:40 ||| drmitch (West Tennessee)
SUBJECT:
RE: What year were these made? POD
MESSAGE: Thanks Scott, I grew up in a rural aera and never saw a dishwasher untill I was a teenager in the late sixties.
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Post# 28411-4/1/2003-19:55 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
RE: E bay Whirlpool washer-home at last! (Stuck agitator)
MESSAGE: Hey! Hey! the adgitator is off! Imperial Bob e mailed me to do the following: Hit the bottom of the adgitator with your fist a few hard raps,where it meets the bottom of the spin basket,all the way around.Then simply pull up on the adgitator,and it will come right off. Hats off to Bob,and everyone else that replyed!And on to the next problem...
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Post# 28412-4/1/2003-21:06 ||| Mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: What year were these made? POD (Westinghouse built in dishwasher)
MESSAGE: Good for you, You lucked out. When you get that beauty I would not mind seeing a pic of it. Please post it. I am searching for info & pics on vintage dishwashers & hope someday to own a really cool vintage machine. Michael mikepaquette@sympatico.ca
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Post# 28413-4/1/2003-21:26 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: What year were these made? POD
MESSAGE: The Thor Automagic combination washer/dishwasher (and it's washer/dishwasher/sink combo) were introduced in the mid-to-late 1940's.
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Post# 28414-4/1/2003-22:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse maintenance workshop (hhgregg / geodon2000? (Don't fret Geo))
MESSAGE: Jeff & I will save you from the quicksand of the sandbox!!!!
The patrol officer out of uniform
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Post# 28415-4/1/2003-22:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse maintenance workshop (coveralls encouraged...i love a man in uniform...)
MESSAGE: Will these be everyones' coveralls contributed (like on the Sears commercial???)
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Post# 28416-4/1/2003-22:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances - The Ricardos)
MESSAGE: Chris, not all the "Comdey Hour"'s washers were Westys. They also had Philco/Bendix.
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Post# 28417-4/1/2003-22:24 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances - Donna Reed)
MESSAGE: A Kenmore dishwasher. They also had a LK washer & dryer pair.
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Post# 28418-4/2/2003-05:06 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: Any Carolina collections? (not to far ...need help?)
MESSAGE: I am aobut 3 hours from charlotte
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Post# 28419-4/2/2003-05:30 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: What year were these made? POD (late fifties early 60's possibly )
MESSAGE: y god Parents were the first to have a dishwasher in our family it was a Westinghouse top loader with the impeller it was built in roll out. I would enjoy spending time at their house since she also had westy slant fronts that went to the potato pulley system .I want to say they built their house in 1964. I have always been looking for an impeller dishwasher. Hard to find in the south since domestic labor was relatively cheap
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Post# 28420-4/2/2003-08:00 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: What year were these made? POD
MESSAGE: According to www.electrasol.com:
"Did you know that ELECTRASOL® was the first Automatic Dishwasher Detergent . . ever? It was invented in 1948, the same time as the first Automatic Dishwasher."
And www.cascadecomplete.com chimes in:
"The dishwasher was invented by Josephine Cochrane more than 100 years ago. Why? She was tired of servants chipping her china."
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Post# 28421-4/2/2003-08:48 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances Alice Mitchell's washer and dryer)
MESSAGE: I know that in at least a couple of episode Dennis's mom Alice had the same matched 58 RCA Whirlpool set that Donna Stone had (not suprising as the Stone's and the Mitchell's both lived in Hilldale). You could see them when ever anyone came through the screen door on the back porch into the kitchen and they were prominately featured in the episode wher Dennis and Margeret play house and end up with an over flow of suds in the kitchen from to much soap in the washer.
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Post# 28422-4/2/2003-08:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: What year were these made? POD (Wrong)
MESSAGE: Hmmm, I just checked out www.electrasol.com and their web site states:
"Did you know that ELECTRASOL® was the first Automatic Dishwasher Detergent . . ever? It was invented in 1948, the same time as the first Automatic Dishwasher."
While I believe Electrasol was the first Automatic DW detergent, the first motorized dishwasher was invented in 1911 and the first automatic dw came in the mid 1930's by GE. Westinghouse showed off their new automatic dw at the 1939 NY Worlds Fair. Does their advertising agency make this stuff up as they see fit?
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Post# 28423-4/2/2003-09:03 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
more keymatic
MESSAGE: Hi troops
Here are some more pics of the Keymatic.
The last two are of the pulsator clutch.
When the solenoid pulls in (left, just out of shot) the arm pulls in, the plastic protrusion on arm(about halfway along) interferes with the triangular protrusion on the (greasy in photo) plastic clutch cover, so the clutch cover can't spin with the pulley. This stops drive to the pulsator.So if the spin pulley (the one closest to camera) is turning clockwise and the solenoid is NOT engaged, the pulsator spins. If the solenoid is engaged, the pulsator DOESN'T spin. The pulleys always turn in opposite directions, so whichever one is turning clockwise turns the drum, the other idles anti-clockwise.
The closer pulley is the fast one (spin and pulsator drive) the other one is the slow pulley, for tumble. Unfortunately the motor is missing, so you can't see the motor pulleys and drive belt setup. The tumble is driven by a vee belt, from the reduction gear to the slow pulley. The spin and pulsate is driven from a pulley on the motor, around two idlers (the belt turns 90 degrees!) to the fast pulley.
Got that?
There are exam questions later...
Chris.
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst?.dir=/Hoover+Keymatic&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/vwp%3f.dir=/Hoover%2bKeymatic%26.dnm=pulsator%2bclutch%2breleased.jpg%26.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 28424-4/2/2003-09:06 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: AEG spinner (Classic)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
Actually the lid on mine is plastic. It is clear with a feint purple tint.
Chris
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Post# 28425-4/2/2003-09:10 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Keymatic
MESSAGE: Hi Comboboy.
The keyplates control everything. There are no other controls.
It selects fill temp, heater temp, wash action, wash time, spin duration and part-cycles such as spin dry only.
Chris.
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Post# 28426-4/2/2003-09:14 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Keymatic (Keyplates at the Ready!!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike
Those ads are FAB!
The one with the timeline display was first, the one with the round dial indicator was later.
Mine actually has a manufacture date stamp - 12 Feb 1968.
Chris
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Post# 28427-4/2/2003-11:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances Alice Mitchell's washer and dryer)
MESSAGE: Also, Donna's kitchen (the newer version) was used as Gladys Kravitz' kitchen a few times on Bewitched.
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Post# 28428-4/2/2003-12:28 ||| BRENT-AUCOIN (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: What year were these made? POD (Wrong Lies as usual!)
MESSAGE: Advertising really is a tricky thing these days. It is up to the consumer to do research, and find out the truth. One way that they really get lies over on you is by humor. It is it is only a white lie on their part, if you laughed. I see that a good bit on television commercials these days. I think that if they are sued, their defence would be; "You did not actually believe that did you"? They know that the majority of the public would not know that it is a lie, and buy what they are saying as gospel.
Years ago, they did this sort of thing in a subliminal way, without you reallly knowing. Now they just right out lie!
The part that pisses me off about it is that it is a slap in the face. A company that does that sort of thing is saying you are a idiot that will believe anything.
Thanks for the correction Robert!
Brent
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Post# 28429-4/2/2003-12:29 ||| BRENT-AUCOIN (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: more keymatic (Way cool Chris!)
MESSAGE: Chris,
Thanks so much for the pictures of your Keymatic.
That is a very cool looking machine.
I hope that you can find a motor for it soon, and get to play with it.
Thanks for the pictures.
Brent
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Post# 28430-4/2/2003-14:30 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: What year were these made? POD (Wrong Lies as usual!)
MESSAGE: Brent,
Good point, I agree. But now I wonder what the earlier machines used for soap. Any idea?
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Post# 28431-4/2/2003-14:45 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: more keymatic
MESSAGE: Thanks so much for the pictures.
So If I understand you correctly this machine can tumble the clothes and still has enough water in it to use the pulsator on the back of the drum to churn the clothes more?
So you could either tumble or pulsate or both
We can also see that the tilted drum was on several diffrents makes now Westinghouse, Maytag, now Hoover.
What a neat machine
Philippe
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Post# 28432-4/2/2003-15:10 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: more keymatic
MESSAGE: Thank you for the pictures and the explanation. My head is spinning now! LOL
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Post# 28433-4/2/2003-15:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: AEG spinner (Classic)
MESSAGE: Silly me, that is what I meant. It's clear plastic, there were never glass lids for spinners. Like the idea though.
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Post# 28434-4/2/2003-15:18 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Bewitched Kitchen Appliances)
MESSAGE: Not sure what was in the Cleavers' kitchen at the old house.
At the new house, there are GE appliances in the kitchen. In the episode you mentioned, that's a very well disguised BOL Frigidaire. You can tell because the badge was left on the front, and in one camera angle the lid is opened revealing the tiny print instructions that those washers had on the underside.
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Post# 28435-4/2/2003-15:23 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Epermay)
MESSAGE: Ewwww...I forgot about the grab handles on the side. I had guessed Maytag because of the two little knobs on top right up front, but I am sure there were several washers like that built in the late 40s. Wonder if it *was* a Kelvinator. The world may never know.
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Post# 28436-4/2/2003-15:25 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Turquois Lady's
MESSAGE: *giggle* Did you get any sleep last night?
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Post# 28437-4/2/2003-15:27 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV appliances-Mama's Family)
MESSAGE: Okay. I was wrong again. I thought I had remembered seeing the early 60s Sears logo on it marking it as a Coldspot.
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Post# 28438-4/2/2003-15:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV appliances-Mama's Family)
MESSAGE: Well, it's just as possible I could be all wet, not being completely familiar with all of Sears bottom freezer offerings from that era, the reason I thought of Kelvinator was because I knew someone with a top freezer Kelvinator that had the same style handles. It's always possible that Sears had some very similar ones as well.
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Post# 28439-4/2/2003-15:39 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: What year were these made? POD (Long Time Catching on)
MESSAGE: Yeah, I would hate life without a dishwasher in my house, but in the first decades that DWs were produced, even postwar, a Good Housekeeping article circa 1952 reports that while automatic dishwashers were abundant and relatively cheap, not a lot of people grabbed them up, not even portables.
Amazing that mindset that DWs are a luxury continues even to this day when dishwashers in developed countries like America are the rule rather than the exception. According to Consumers Union, they are a relatively efficient appliance that may actually use less water in some cases than handwashing in spite of the many times it fills with water. In fact, they report that most of the energy it consumes is used *by the water heater* to heat the incoming water. And yet I know so many people who never use the dishwasher they have, and still others like a girlfriend of mine who has 4 children and a handyman husband who could install one for her but she firmly refuses to get a DW and has for many years.
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Post# 28440-4/2/2003-15:41 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Westinghouse maintenance workshop (coveralls encouraged...i love a man in uniform...)
MESSAGE: With all of us standing around in our skivvies like the Sears commercial? Uhhhh...that oughta be interesting to see...
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Post# 28441-4/2/2003-15:43 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances - LucyDesi Comedy Hour)
MESSAGE: Which brand is the set featured in Tallulah Bankhead's garage when she moves to the neighborhood in one episode?
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Post# 28442-4/2/2003-15:44 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances - Donna Reed)
MESSAGE: Thank you sir!!
I knew there was something very Kenmoreish about that washer/dryer, but as another forum member mentioned, you can barely see them in the background most episodes.
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Post# 28443-4/2/2003-15:47 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Kelvinator v. Coldspot)
MESSAGE: Or, as is always true with Sears, that it *is* a Coldspot, but built by Kelvinator. You are right, though: the handles tell the story.
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Post# 28444-4/2/2003-16:27 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
Another Coppertone is home
MESSAGE: Just look what the dog brought home?
Her Sister......
A Whirlpool Convertible (Portable)
This was put out into the street yesterday and I just could not let her be destroyed on Friday by our Recycling program and now she got a good home and I will not bring another machine home until I get my Jet-cone Frigidaire.
I promise!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/cleanteamofny/vwp?.dir=/New+Arrival&.src=ph&.dnm=Picture+144.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/cleanteamofny/lst%3f%26.dir=/New%2bArrival%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28445-4/2/2003-17:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: What year were these made? POD (Long Time Catching on)
MESSAGE: Chris, that is correct that modern dishwashers use less water to clean dishes (better) than handwashing. The new machines don't really fill that many times, and don't pull that much water when they do.
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Post# 28446-4/2/2003-17:32 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home
MESSAGE: CleanteamofNY,
Very nice little unit!
It's may be small, but it's big on style. Such a shame that today's appliances are just plain dull compared to yesterday's treasures. Congratulations on your new addition, may she serve you well.
-Alex
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Post# 28447-4/2/2003-17:35 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: more keymatic
MESSAGE: Gizmo,
I can see the appeal of this unit, very unique and a keeper! I hope you find your motor soon! Enjoy!
-Alex
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Post# 28448-4/2/2003-18:44 ||| drmitch (West Tennessee)
SUBJECT:
RE: What year were these made? POD (late fifties early 60's possibly )
MESSAGE: The impeller in the bottom of this one looked kind of like a boat propeller and it was made of plastic I guess because it had a lot of peices broke off it.I guess that would be impossible to find!
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Post# 28449-4/2/2003-19:27 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Turquois Lady's
MESSAGE: I actually did sleep last night.
They have arrived and I took many pics but Yahoo is giving me FITTS!. I uploaded 4 photos and then an ERROR message. They have done this to me before.
Will have all the pics up tomorrow. I hope.
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Post# 28450-4/2/2003-19:36 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
Lady K's Home
MESSAGE: Hi All!
The Lady's are home safe and uncrated. Boy, do they look beautifull with the lights on.
These machines were never used. The shipping blocks were still in the machanism of the washer!. I had to pull them out per the instructions still attached to the machine!. Amazing.
Both machines have a couple of minor scratches and the dryer door has a few very small rust spots which can be fixed easily. The chrome is perfect on both and all the controls are as new. I had to install the leveling feet also for the front of the washer.
You will see what I mean when I get the pics up.
Cheers for now,
Bruce
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Post# 28451-4/2/2003-19:45 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: more keymatic
MESSAGE: Hi Gizmo!
I cant believe I am looking at a real live Keymatic, rather than advertisments!
Hope you find a motor real soon.
Thanx so much for posting those wonderful pictures!
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Post# 28452-4/2/2003-21:44 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT:
Easy washer on EBAY !
MESSAGE: Hi Everyone!
Thought you guys might want to take a look at this. Mark
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2315175554&category=20714
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Post# 28453-4/2/2003-21:58 ||| electrophobia (NOLA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Keymatic (Keyplates at the Ready!!!!)
MESSAGE: gizmo hello! so this machine washes with that pulsator like our older portabble american twinnies, then the tub revolves for spin. dont really understand the purpose of the pulsator if the drum can revolve for wash as well... in short how does it work?? thanks electro
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Post# 28454-4/2/2003-23:26 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
And I said I wouldn't take any more machines......
MESSAGE: I got a GE set tonight-gas dryer, washer with a mini-basket setting, but no mini basket, no filter although the water does recirculate into what should be one. They are cream and in beautiful shape. She said the dryer has just started to overheat in the last month. I can tell it is caked with lint. I have blown quite a bit out already without even taking them apart. Would this make a dryer overheat? Also the washer is model WWA8324, serial #DZI85075G. Does anybody know the age? I have never had a GE and don't know much about them. On the Perm Press cycle it refers to gentle or delicate speed, but I don't think it washes or spins any slower than on regular-my friend used to have a GE that did the same thing, advertised as 2 speeds, but not really. What's up with that?
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Post# 28455-4/2/2003-23:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
Sister's New Tappan
MESSAGE: My sister just bought a house today in built in 1964. There has only been one owner that has maintained the house immaculately since they moved in. I didn't hold out much hope for original appliances, but to my surprise, there was a 30" Tappan Fabulous 400 range in nearly mint condition. Sis is less than impressed so we're making plans to replace (and rescue) the Tappan.
I posted some pictures of the range (and the house) in my album:
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=Kitchen+1.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28456-4/2/2003-23:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: more keymatic
MESSAGE: Super cool - I would love to see this running! I think someone mentioned once that these rear-impeller tumblers tangled terribly bad - is that true?
What a cool find - congrats on getting it home. Now for a motor... ;-)
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Post# 28457-4/2/2003-23:58 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Lady K's Home
MESSAGE: I was going to call you tonight but I forgot we had haircuts and West Wing and then it was too late. Congrats on getting them home - have fun with them. Looking forward to pictures!
Greg
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Post# 28458-4/3/2003-00:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home
MESSAGE: Oooh, another cool find - I always thought these were so cute. Don't worry about bringing machines home, play with them for a while and then get rid of them when something better comes along!
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Post# 28459-4/3/2003-00:26 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances - LucyDesi Comedy Hour)
MESSAGE: Talula Bankhead's Washer and Dryer would have been probably Hotpoint's, since that was the Lucy-Desi's Sponser for the Show when they moved out to the Country. I could be wrong, they might have been Westinghouse, since they were the Sponser when they lived in the Apartment, before moving out to the Country.
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Post# 28460-4/3/2003-01:27 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home
MESSAGE: What a cutey! I hadn't seen this one before, was this type the very first one of the compacts?
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Post# 28461-4/3/2003-01:35 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: more keymatic (How it Works!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Chris
Great pics, very detailed, pity about the motor...which just sits underneath the tub/pulleys etc???
When it washes with the paddle does the tub tumble as well???
Is their any sort of speed controller or is it just clutch & pulleys??
Mike
p.s. I`ve added the full keymatic brochure if anyone wants a look.....
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/chestermikeuk/lst?.dir=/Hoover&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 28462-4/3/2003-01:38 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan
MESSAGE: Da link isn't working.
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Post# 28463-4/3/2003-01:41 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home (We Say Thanks!!!)
MESSAGE: I`m glad there are some of us that cant say no!!!!that Whirly portable is very thankful you didnt....
My bet is you`ll soon have a basement full and building an extension or annexe!!!...LOL
I seem to remember remember Greg, Peter & Steve saying this and look what happens....More Fab Machines For Us To See!!!!
Keep collecting & enjoy
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 28464-4/3/2003-01:45 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Easy washer on EBAY ! (First Twinny????)
MESSAGE: This must be about the first twinny as we know them with centrifuge, apart from the earlier Savage???
Sure looks a sturdy machine, interesting the spinner mount has the post in it, although you may lose space it must be an advantage in steading/balancing the load..
Anyone any space....(Scott)???
Mike
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Post# 28465-4/3/2003-05:48 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT:
RE: And I said I wouldn't take any more machines......
MESSAGE: This I believe is an early 80's machine. They are two speed but GE/Hotpoints of the time unlike all the other machine if you changed from regular to slow speed while machine was running the samll clutch broke. Consumer Reports always down graded the GE/HP's for this. We had a Hotpoint and both my wife and I did this and lost the slow agitate and spin machine would click click then go into regular agitate. Back then it was about a 20.00 fix can't remember the part number though.
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Post# 28466-4/3/2003-05:55 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: Easy washer on EBAY ! (First Twinny????)
MESSAGE: Yes the American version of a true twin tub. My mother had one and I owned one for quite a while they are great machines I wore mine out. The center post allows you to put the water faucet over it and rinse the cloths as they spin. It is a very ecologically sound machine and very conservative on water since you could refill the washtub with the rinse water from the spinner. I lust for one of these again luck should soon have it that one will be available locally .
Philippe
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Post# 28467-4/3/2003-06:43 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: more keymatic (How it Works!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike
-There are two wash actions - tumble only or wash and tumble together.
-There is no speed controller. The motor has a reduction gear on one end(with its pulley) and a pulley on the other end. So each end of the motor has a pulley, one turns at motor speed and the other at about 1/15th of motor speed. >> you have a slow pulley and a fast pulley. >> Each pulley turns in the opposite direction, so each belt turns in the opposite direction. >>The two pulleys on the drum shaft (the ones in my photos) each have a clever simple clutch inside. If the pulley turns clockwise, it drives the drum. Whenever the motor is running, one pulley is driving clockwise and the other is idling anticlockwise. To change from wash to spin, the motor reverses so the slow pulley stops driving and the fast pulley starts driving. An old tech told me the motor has to reverse direction and take up the drive in 3/4 of a second or the tumbling clothes will drop and get off balance. Thus the motor is very high torque and accelerates VERY fast.
As the clutches are one-way clutches, there is no way the machine can be made to reverse the tumble direction.
Thanks for posting your piccies, Mike.
Your brochure shows a couple of interesting differences between Aussie and Pommie Keymatics. Your brochure says four rinses for every cycle. Aussie ones all do three rinses - two rinses, short spin, third rinse, final spin. Also your brochure says 3000w heater. Aussie ones have 2400w heaters, as the max legal current here is 10 amps, which equals 2400w.
Chris
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Post# 28468-4/3/2003-06:56 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: more keymatic
MESSAGE: Hi Greg - That might have been me. I found that they tangle badly on either cycle, but especially on the tumble and pulsator washes. The old tech told me he always told customers to use the delicate cycle - no pulsator for less lint, less tangling, less wear of clutch.
Hi Wringingwet - The water level in the keymatic is quite high compared to conventional front loaders. The drum leans backwards as it fills - the suspension springs and cables are arranged so that the weight of the water transfers weight to the back as it fills. This helps tilt water and clothes towards the pulsator. Also the fins/paddles in the drum only go halfway towards the back, to keep clear space available for the pulsator to move the clothes around. You can see this in my interior photo. The paddles taper off toward the rear.
The tilting tub, the high water level, the short wash times and the half paddles all conspire to hinder the washing action. Although it is a fascinating and complicated machine, I found the Keymatic to wash quite poorly compared to conventional front loaders.
Brent, Arrrooohhh, Louis, Technopolis - Thanks for your kind comments.
Chris.
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Post# 28469-4/3/2003-07:30 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home
MESSAGE: Thanks, I may have a little fun with this for a little while, but what I find so strange is that this Whirlpool has more features than the kenmore!?!?
I wonder why???
Is there a POD for the Whirlpool Convertible?
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Post# 28470-4/3/2003-07:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan
MESSAGE: OK, Yahoo is being very strange. I've never had this much trouble before!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=Kitchen+1.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28471-4/3/2003-07:34 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home
MESSAGE: I would love to find a Lady K portable like that in Avocado. Those use the regular 12lb tub instead of the TINY 7 or 8lb tub that I have in my portable. It's a vintage washer and fun to watch but almost impractical to use.
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Post# 28472-4/3/2003-07:35 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home
MESSAGE: Thanks, I've seen it in a POD or a catalogs photo, but never up-close and personal like now.
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Post# 28473-4/3/2003-07:50 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home
MESSAGE: Thanks Alex,
It's a looker but not like a large control panel washer. I just love these portable (Standard) size washer that put the new portables to shame in compacity! But I must stop and work on these tired but hardworking units before my father konks me with a drain hose! :-O
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Post# 28474-4/3/2003-08:06 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home
MESSAGE: yes I know what you mean Jason,
my parent had the Kenmore in avocado,
but I found that same kenmore in white not too long ago and it's just a bare-bone machine:
3 cycles,1 water level and manual water temp that we must control at the faucet, but it clean clothes very well and its a water-hog when washing one small delicate item!
:-P
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Post# 28475-4/3/2003-08:09 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan
MESSAGE: Someone need to give them a slap!
(SLAP) Ya Hoo, Hoooo......
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Post# 28476-4/3/2003-08:22 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home
MESSAGE: I've never answer the question; I'm not sure, but I think that it is!
Someone here in the club may give us a better history lesson on this answer!
Larry
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Post# 28477-4/3/2003-10:23 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home (Temp Control)
MESSAGE: Hey, I notice that your new toy has a temperature control on it. I thought that was either rare or nonexistent on early portables, ostensibly because you were supposed to control the temperature at the sink (what you were to do if you converted to permanent hookup, I dont guess they thought much about). As evidence, my 1991 portable KM had a note at the warm/warm setting which read "manual".
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Post# 28478-4/3/2003-10:32 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home (Not Quite the First)
MESSAGE: Hi:
Dont know about WP, but Sears carried that type of fully automatic toploading Kenmore portable rollaway as early as 1962.
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Post# 28479-4/3/2003-11:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan
MESSAGE: I'm sorry Greg, but the link still isn't working. Have you made the album available for public acces? I browsed through your album, but I couldn't find a Tappan range anywhere.
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Post# 28480-4/3/2003-11:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home
MESSAGE: Yes, and if anyone knows, I'd be curious to know why, since they were obviously successful in making a portable with a standard tub, why they ever went to the little one. With the larger tub, it's so much more for your money.
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Post# 28481-4/3/2003-12:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home (the little tub)
MESSAGE: The little tub is 1/2 of the standard tub. Let's say 4 pairs of jeans in the standard tub. You'd be lucky to get away with 2 or in the little tub without it dancing all over the floor.
I love my lil' lady but I wish she had the bigger tub.
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Post# 28482-4/3/2003-14:49 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan
MESSAGE: TELL ME ABOUT IT!
I have been trying to get pics of the Lady's uploaded since yesterday and after about 1 or 2 photos it comes up with an error message.
I am sooo !@#$%& OFF! at them.
Oh well, I will keep trying.
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Post# 28483-4/3/2003-15:05 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan (single upload)
MESSAGE: When they have gotten fussy with me, I upload one pic at a time. Tedious, but works.
-ph
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Post# 28484-4/3/2003-15:57 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home (the little tub)
MESSAGE: Jason:
I feel you.
Back in the day, it used to take me, no lie, *3 days* to do 2 weeks' worth of laundry in my 1991 KM portable; something that takes around 4 hours or so now; 6 at the most.
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Post# 28485-4/3/2003-17:52 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
On-line picture storage
MESSAGE: Most ISPs offer space (at no charge) to their users for a home page. You don't have to actually set up a web site, you can use the space for storing pictures, and then link to them in emails, bulletin board posts, whatever. It's a slightly different process from uploading to a Yahoo photo album, but certainly isn't difficult and is better than dealing with Yahoo's crankiness.
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Post# 28486-4/3/2003-18:30 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Just wanted to let everyone know pics of the Lady's are linked here. It took me forever to upload from Yahoo.
I also have pics of my Frigidaire Flair on the Member Links Page.
Enjoy the pics....
Bruce
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/calypsobruce/lst?.dir=/1965%27+Lady+K%27s&.view=t
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Post# 28487-4/3/2003-18:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan (single upload)
MESSAGE: I have changed the access parameters three times to "Public" and they still won't let the public in! The stinkers!
OK, we'll try again...
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Yahoo!+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=13569+Shirley.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Yahoo!%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28488-4/3/2003-19:23 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan (single upload)
MESSAGE: What a cool house! Is this in Denver, or Omaha? Very nice laundry room too...one wonders what was there in 1964...if it's in Omaha, probably a Maytag!
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Post# 28489-4/3/2003-19:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Bruce this is just fantastic...even better than I would first have imagined. I had forgotten aobut the dryer baffles being formed right into the metal on the older dryers. Does the dryer have the type of timer that "clicks" into position at the various settings?
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Post# 28490-4/3/2003-19:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (get the smelling salts!)
MESSAGE: Bruce, A once in a lifetime thrill for an applianceviller - congratulations!!
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Post# 28491-4/3/2003-20:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan (single upload)
MESSAGE: This is my sister's house that lives here in Omaha, we found this while house hunting on Sunday afternoon. We went back a little later in the day with my camera and she bought it yesterday. Part of the house's charm is the 60's influences in their original condition - the laundry room has a funky, inside mounted door with the strangest door latches I've ever seen, I will have to remember to take pics of that. She's going to try to buy a few of the furnishings from the owner - we really liked the rocker I snapped a pic of and great bedroom set too. Heidi is coming over tonight to "shop" in magazines and catalogs from the early 60's to get some ideas of things to be on the lookout for to continue the period furnishing. The owner, Margie, is a very fun and active 75 year old woman that acts half her age. She's moving into an apartment and so all of the appliances stay in the house - direct drive is seeping into my family!
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Post# 28492-4/3/2003-20:38 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan (single upload)
MESSAGE: That's great Greg, and how fun that that wonderful stove in there, and so happily, it is electric! Margie sounds like a delightful woman.
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Post# 28493-4/3/2003-21:15 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
Re: Reminder:
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Friends, I wanted to remind everyone that we change time this weekend. Be sure to change your Clocks ahead 1-hour on Saturday Night, before you go to sleep. It is hard to believe it is that time of year again already, "Where Does the Time Fly?"
Best to everyone, Steve
Sacto Teddy Bear...
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Post# 28494-4/3/2003-21:26 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Reminder:
MESSAGE: Wow, I didn't realize it was this weekend already. Glad I don't have to be anywhere on Sunday, LOL.
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Post# 28495-4/3/2003-21:33 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce
You are so lucky, what a find!
What does the sprinkler ball do?
What does the caption "no base" mean on one of the pics?
Thanks
Chris
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Post# 28496-4/3/2003-21:53 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Hey Chris,
The ball mainly makes A LOT OF NOISE!!! You partially fill it with water, put it into the dryer with dry clothes, set the timer for air fluff, and the ball tumbles with the clothes and sprinkles them with the water, dampening them for ironing.
The Roto-Flex agitator does not have a solid base. The six vanes are only attached to the post. The flex depending on the load size and spank each item clean!
-ph
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Post# 28497-4/3/2003-21:55 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Peter, being a "Lady", I'm surprised this particular dryer didn't have the sprinkler in the inner door panel, like some of the Sears dryers. That must have been discontinued prior to this.
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Post# 28498-4/3/2003-21:56 ||| electrophobia (NOLA)
SUBJECT:
RE: more keymatic (How it Works!!!)
MESSAGE: Very nice explanation gizmo and chestermike uk thanks guys ive never seen anything like it, guess the tub tilts back like our U.S. slant westys, when the paddle pulsator runs it must be full of water above the door line???
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Post# 28499-4/3/2003-21:57 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan (great!)
MESSAGE: What a wonderful house!
-ph
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Post# 28500-4/3/2003-22:01 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Maybe they found that the ball gives more even results? It sure SOUNDS like it does when it's in there!!!
-ph
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Post# 28501-4/3/2003-22:02 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (sprinkler ball )
MESSAGE: Hi Chris,
The sprinkler ball is used to dampen previously dried clothes for ironing without a steam iron. You filled it with water and tossed into the machine and turned it on. The water would dampen the clothes as they tumbled. I'm not sure how effective it was. Some dryers from had built in sprinklers which did the same thing. (I don't know for sure, but I'm guessing that those dryers had to be connected to a water supply.) Also, many dryers had "damp dry" settings on their automatic dryness controls. The machine would shut off before the clothes were completely dry. The clothes had to be ironed almost as soon as they came out of the machine. You can accomplish the same thing with a brief timed setting.
Mike
Mike
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Post# 28502-4/3/2003-22:08 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce, what a find! I bet Whirlpool doesn't even have anything like this. How do they sound? I remember when my mother got her 3rd Kenmore in 1972,the machine just sounded "tight" like a new car. I have never seen an agitator like this one either. Congrats! Glad they are going to a good home,and thanks for sharing,I had been waiting! (-:
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Post# 28503-4/3/2003-22:11 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan (single upload)
MESSAGE: Wow! What a nice house. I'm drooling of the stove and those kitchen cabinets.
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Post# 28504-4/3/2003-22:12 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Thanks Bruce. Congrats again on getting these handsome, handsome machines. That's my favorite color for appliances. I'm glad that you were able to rescue these and give them a good home. Enjoy!
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Post# 28505-4/3/2003-22:23 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: more keymatic (How it Works!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Electrophobia
No, its pretty amazing but the water is always below the doorline. When you disable the door-actuated drum brake and safety switch (!), you can do the whole cycle with the door open and barely spill a drop. Fun to watch. The rubber door boot is very floppy/flexible compared to modern machines, and stretches back as the drum drops. The drum opening is well back from the door when full.
As the machine fills, the drum drops evenly until the front edge just under the opening hits a rubber buffer attached to the frame underneath. The front can't sink any lower but the rear continues to drop quite a bit. When filling finishes the water is about two inches below the door opening and the pulsator is submerged by about the same amount. Unlike the Hoovermatic twin tub, the Keymatic pulsator isn't deep in the water and clothes tend to just get a bit of a twist from it as they tumble past.
Chris.
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Post# 28506-4/3/2003-22:24 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Which model Kenmore was your 72? My two favorites from that year are the "Lady" and one a step or two down, that has "ABC" settings, and the transparent timer dial is in a rectangular window, to the left of the knob. It has 2 speeds and a variflex agitator, and the recirculating detergent dispenser.
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Post# 28507-4/3/2003-22:26 ||| Scott55405 (Minneapolis, Minnesota)
SUBJECT:
RE: more keymatic (How it Works!!!)
MESSAGE: Chris I can't tell you how happy I am you found this machine, if I haven't already, and how much I enjoyed the pictures. Hope you will be able to find a good motor for it and have it up and running to enjoy! Were the keyplates still there, with the machine?
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Post# 28508-4/3/2003-22:46 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (TV Land Appliances - LucyDesi Comedy Hour)
MESSAGE: I believe the washer & dryer were Hotpoint, like all the appliances in the kitchen, which included a double oven!!!
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Post# 28509-4/3/2003-23:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home (the little tub)
MESSAGE: Hey, someone other than me that saves up laundry for a few weeks.
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Post# 28510-4/3/2003-23:22 ||| Kurtdixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
Wow
MESSAGE: Is this ever neat! I am quite new to the washer obsession:-) But I have always had an obsession with vacuums. I don't have any collection of anything yet. But I will soon have some vintage vacuums. (one from 1926, the Hoover model 700:-) I haven't come out of the appliance obsession closet yet:-) Not for a few years yet. (I am only 15 years old) I have learned tons about vacuums simply from forums like this. (only dedicated to vacuums.) I wonder what makes some people so fascinated by appliances? (esspecially old ones.) I hope I can still contribute some to this forum. (I don't know much about old appliances, with the exception of vacuums. If someone has a vacuum question, just ask:-) But I am starting to be fascinated by major appliances now. (esspecially washers, dryers and DWs.) We have a Kenmore 80 series direct drive. (only 6 months old.) An 8 year old electric Maytag dependable care dryer. (very reliable.) A 15 year old Maytag belt drive dishwasher. (now that is a piece of work!) The direct drive washer replaced a 15 year old kenmore belt drive. (Ran perfectly for 14 years until the agitator shaft seal became leaky, the outer tub bottom got rusted through and the spin tube got worn out badly.)
One question though, our new kenmore makes some knocking during agitation. (loud during high speed agitation.) I have been told that the transmission is defective. But the knocking comes and goes. I was just hoping someone here would know something simple before I replace the tranny? Or maybe I am just not used to the noises that the direct drive tranny makes. (I was listening to a belt drive one for 15 years, so...)
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Post# 28511-4/3/2003-23:24 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (Congratulations!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce, Congratulations on this fantastic pair. This is also my favorite color of appliance. The lighting is so beautiful. I just wish that they would start using these again. This must seem like a dream to have found a "new" set. I am really happy for you. Love that sprinkler ball. My mom had one and it sure made a lot of noise. As I remember it was never very effective but such a neat idea. Have fun!! Terry
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Post# 28512-4/3/2003-23:26 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (72'Kenmore)
MESSAGE: It wasn't the top of the line model,like the 58' was.I do remember it having a gold adgitator,although it was not a "vari-flex" or anything.I left home the following year,so I wasn't around that much then. Compaired to the 58' Lady Kenmore she traded,this one wasn't that great. It leaked slightly from day one,and once the adgitator itself stripped out.It was splined with the shaft,no block. Rusted to hell also.This was one I had no interest in whatever.Still it outlived my mom.Dad replaced it with another Kenmore two years before he died in 1997. We sold the house that year,and left all the appliances,including the original Tappan wall oven,KitchenAid side by side fridge,the 72'Kenmore dryer, and 95' Kenmore washer.I didn't want the washer,as I prefer the vintage stuff.Now if only they would have kept the 58'.....
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Post# 28513-4/3/2003-23:44 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wow
MESSAGE: Hi Kurt, nice to see you here! I remember you from the VacWeb forum, which I no longer go to. This is a great group of people and I think you'll really enjoy it.
There is a place called the Sandbox, for which a link appears on the posting page, when you want to talk about modern, rather than classic appliances. Since you mentioned your new Kenmore, it should still be under warranty so you may wish to have them correct the problem while it is. We have one that makes no such knocking sound. It could just be a bad coupler, but no matter while it's under warranty.
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Post# 28514-4/3/2003-23:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Bruce, they truely are a work of art. You'll have spanking clean clothes now.
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Post# 28515-4/3/2003-23:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (get the smelling salts!)
MESSAGE: Well, I'm still dreaming of a same type of once-in-a-life time event for this applianceviller for a GM Frigidaire!! set.
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Post# 28516-4/4/2003-00:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan (single upload)
MESSAGE: Driect drive or is she gonna keep her Dependable Cares? And didn't I spy a lower MOL GE dishwasher?
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Post# 28517-4/4/2003-00:03 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: What a way to do laundry. Spank & sprinkle.
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Post# 28518-4/4/2003-01:44 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan (So Solid!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Looks like that oven could really cook up a lunch for the army...so solid and robust...looks a very much like a Moffatt oven we had over here, does this have a built in rotisserie???
How many rings does the hob have???
The pic labelled "400" is this the dishwasher???
Mike
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Post# 28519-4/4/2003-01:51 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce
I bet you took your duvet and slept with them last night, I would have!!!On second thoughts no I wouldnt I would have been up all night washing and admiring them...!!!!
A true Blast From The Past, we can almost smell the newness, no dust,dirt and oily spray, only gleaming enamel...
And for true Appliancvillers all those lights...
How does the 3- speeds work is it through clutches or speed controllers????
Enjoy
Mike
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Post# 28520-4/4/2003-01:56 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: A true 3-speed motor.
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Post# 28521-4/4/2003-02:19 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: more keymatic (How it Works!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Chis
It seems a simple operation given no electronics for speed control...when it changes from wash to rinse what happens...Does it continue to tumble and switch on the pump to drain, (does the pump have a seperate pump?) or neutral drain, then tumble shifting to spin etc??
What type and how big is the motor ??? is it brush or larger induction ones like the wash side of the older twinnys???
On the "Secret Life of Washing Machines" tape they show the open top of the keymatic with the big cast iron weight around the drum...also you see the thickness of the wireing, it looks like the sort on a large cooker or immersion heater...everything so solid....and that neat compartment at the back to hold all the hoses & flex etc....
Our Junior School was run by wonderful Nuns and our Headmistress, (Sister Mary Theophane..really known as Sister Mary Cellophane) enrolled us kids in Saturday Morning work clubs, Girls inside for cleaning, Boys outside for gardening ..although I learnt a lot about gardening I was more excited about the "Tea Breaks" and collecting the garden equipment from the store shed as it was next to the big laundry and pride of place was "The Blue Hoover Keymatic"
Its the one time the girls definatly had the Better Equipment...Blue Keymatics & Convertables (Dial-A-Mats) and Hoover 612`s....
In Washday Wonder
Mike
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Post# 28522-4/4/2003-02:22 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
Re: "POD" Kelvinator Washer and Dryer:
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friends, has anyone noticed how much these Kelvinator Washer and Dryer Consoles look a lot like the late 70s and early to mid 80s or maybe a little newer Kenmore {belt-drives and top-mounted lint filter on the dryers}, with the Kenmore having the Timer in the Middle and the top of the Console having the same side panel look and the top of the Console looks a lot like the Kenmores, except the Kenmores had a Black or Woodgrain panel on top. I know that I have my Parents 1985 Lady-K Kenmore Mechanical Control Washer and Electric Dryer and they look a lot like the Kelvinator Consoles.
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Post# 28523-4/4/2003-02:25 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (....3 S`sss)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob
Spank, Sprinkle, with Pretty Pink Sta-Puf.....
And Finally....Slaaaaaapppp!!!!Ouch....
Sorry couldnt resist that.....
Mike
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Post# 28524-4/4/2003-02:31 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Hi Glen,
Are there not many machine`s that had true three speed motors???
Any ideas how the speed change works??
Cant believe those machines are 35+years old, theres gotta be hope for a Kelvinator Splash-A-Rama with Magic Minute like the Pic O Day for you???
Mike
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Post# 28525-4/4/2003-03:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce,
Congratulations with these stunning beauties. And thank you for those wonderful pictures, very well documented! Enjoy them to the full!
Louis
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Post# 28526-4/4/2003-03:20 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (72'Kenmore and '58 Kenmore:)
MESSAGE: Hi! rickr, I wanted to let you know how sorry I am about your Parents Passing. I can relate to that from my Parents Passing in 1993 and 1995 and then my Life-Partner's Passing in 1999. We were together for 10-years and he was only 35-years old.
I'm curious about the '58 Model Kenmore, did it have the Chrome with Black background and Chrome Control Knobs with Gold Pointer ends? Did it have 5-Stars inside a swerved "V" like looking area, on a Chrome trim strip across the upper left front between the Top and Lower part of the Cabinet? Also I'm curious did it had the ovalish metal Screen for the Lint Filtering and the Recirculating Lint housing on the front right side of the Tub opening? One of our Neighbors had one of those Kenmore Washers and it never gave them any trouble until the end of it's era of doing Laundry for them. The people who owned it did triple duty with it, because their Son was going to College, his Wife had left him and their 3-Daughters and his Mother was washing almost every day, since the Daughters were still in Diapers and just out of Diapers, respectably of the Twins being a little older than the other Daughter. She also naturally was doing all of his Laundry and her own for her and her husband as well. I would have to estimate that the Washer did about equal to 45-years of Laundry and it was about 25 or 30-years old when they had gotten rid of it and bought a first phase, but newer than first year Direct-Drive 24-inch Kenmore Washer, with the Straight Vane Agitator in it and actually a low "MOL" Machine, with several options, excpt for Bleach or Fabric Softener Dispenser's. I think actually I did only one Repair for them on the Washer and that was the Safety Lid Switch. It went out, so the Washer wouldn't Spin or it was even Spinning with the Lid opened. They were amaized at how the whole Cabinet came off to get to the Switch to replace it. They also had their first Kenmore Soft Heat and only Clothes Dryer in the early '70s, which had a backsplash and a lift up lid on the left back side with a cover that the Timer and Safety Start Switch were recessed under. It was the Kenmore Match any Washer style Dryer. They had the Motor go out once and I replaced it for them and the interior Light and I've taken it apart to clean out the Lint a few times through the years, but it is still operating and it really has had a real good workout as well.
I'm curious about any other memories that you have about growing up and likes of Appliances, after you started getting into Washers, Dryers and Dishwashers, what memories you might have about Relatives or Friends Appliances?
If you need someone to talk to, please let me know, I would be honored to talk to you anytime that you might need someone to talk to.
Enjoy the Site and keep us informed and also write comments about others collections too. My best to you, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 28527-4/4/2003-03:24 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan (single upload)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg for all the trouble. I LOVE the house! And that range is really amazing! I'm assuming the cooktop pulls out like the one of the Frigidaire Flair?
Louis
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Post# 28528-4/4/2003-03:30 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (1965 Lady-K's:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Bruce, better late than never. I wanted to also to congratulate you on your beautiful findings. I had a few Neighbors that had that very same Model-year of Washer and Dryer, in fact I have one of the Neighbors Electric Dryers. All of the ones here in my Neighborhood were in White, I guess that no one around here wanted the neat Colors that we like, hey what can I say!!! It is so hard to believe that someone would do something like those people did, to just set the Machines in a controlled environment all these years and never use them, how interesting. I'm real glad for you, maybe someday we will all have our biggest dreams of Washers and Dryers come available to us too.
I don't think that any of my Neighbors ever had any trouble with either Machine at all too.
Have fun with them and enjoy them. Great find and what a beautiful set of Laundry Appliances for someone to have and cheerish.
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Post# 28529-4/4/2003-05:23 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: I am absolutely speechless Bruce. They are real beauties and the color is perfect too. Unfortunately I will be unable to attend this weekend's New England wash in (it is this weekend, no??)so it will be a while before I get to see them in person. I wish you much luck with them...
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Post# 28530-4/4/2003-05:39 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan (single upload)
MESSAGE: Greg,
That Tappan Range is very cool. That would be worth saving.
I love the decor of the kitchen also, very warm.
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Post# 28531-4/4/2003-05:43 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Hi Scott,
Yes, the dryer knob has positions from 1-8 and they have a stop at each number.
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Post# 28532-4/4/2003-05:49 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Hi Chris,
The Sprinkler Ball is for dampening your clothes for ironing. You fill it to one of 3 lines based on load size, put the cap back on and toss it into the dryer. You then set the dryer for AIR only for about 15 min. and when done you clothes are damp.
The caption "NO BASE" means that the agitator has no base. The fins were totally free to FLEX in the washer. I think Kenmore was the only one to do this?.
Cheers
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Post# 28533-4/4/2003-05:54 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Hi Rick,
The Lady Runs great. Like you said "Like a new car". The machine makes the old style sounds I remember. The 75' that I have sounds different.
Bruce
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Post# 28534-4/4/2003-05:58 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (Congratulations!!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Terry.
It is a once in a lifetime find I am sure. But I sure am gonna have fun with them. No trailer queens here.
Bruce
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Post# 28535-4/4/2003-06:00 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Thank You Bob.
They are beautifull.
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Post# 28536-4/4/2003-06:06 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Hi Mike,
I almost did not want to use them because they had that "NEW SMELL", but there is no fun if you cannot use them. As long as I am anal-retentive about cleaning them etc. they should be as new for a long time.
The speeds are changed through the motor. EXTRA SLOW is so slow you can do your HAND WASHABLES with no fear. The machine has only 2 spin speeds.
Cheers
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Post# 28537-4/4/2003-06:08 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Thanks Louis.
When you come over here again you can meet them in person.
Bruce
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Post# 28538-4/4/2003-06:11 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Thanks Angus,
The Wash-In is this weekend. Too bad you cannot make it. Please try to come up here soon, it would be fun.
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Post# 28539-4/4/2003-06:30 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (Excellent LK Set)
MESSAGE: What an excellent pair you have there!! Treat them with great care, as it will be hard to find another set like that. I love the color of them. Enjoy them to the fullest, someone was looking over you Bruce on that find!!!!
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Post# 28540-4/4/2003-07:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wow (Welcome!)
MESSAGE: I've always been fascinated by washing machines, even since I was a little kid. I grew up on a belt drive Kenmore too.
The "knock" in a direct-drive could be just the sound of the agitator? If it's more like "click..... click..... click... click...." That might be the ratcheting system in the dual action. My friend has a brand new KM that makes a little agitator noise. I think direct drive machines just make those clunks just because of the way they're made. There's the rhythmic thumping during agitation and the clunk right before the spin.
They're fun washers too. Stick a screwdriver or a pencil in the slot for the lid switch and watch a cycle or two.
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Post# 28541-4/4/2003-07:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan (single upload)
MESSAGE: The KM's in the new house are only a couple of years old and the dryer is electric - no gas hookup which would be difficult to change so she will keep the KM's. Two years use by Margie (the owner who lives alone) means these new ones have a lot less miles on them than sis' current Dep Care Maytags so she's going to sell the Maytags. The KM is a three speed model, so with a little education, sis won't have to shred everything! She will miss the sensor on the dryer though.
When we first looked at the house, I had hoped to find something more exotic in the laundry - I can just imagine a pair of '64 Kelvinators or Frigidaires in the room!!
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Post# 28542-4/4/2003-07:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan (So Solid!!!)
MESSAGE: I'm not sure about the rotisserie, I don't think so though. We made quite a fuss over the range and the owner probably would have mentioned it. The burners pull out like a Flair range revealing the two back burners. Sis doesn't have the best appliance care skills or motivation so it will be best to remove this Tappan beauty now and replace it with a shiny white smoothtop range and micro/hood - it will take away from the vintage feel of the kitchen, but will be much more useful for the new owners!
Sorry, the photos got mixed up in the upload, I renamed them correctly now. The Fabulous 400 is the name on the range - how fab is that!!??
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Post# 28543-4/4/2003-07:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan (single upload)
MESSAGE: Exactly, this was Tappan's version of the popular Frigidaire Flair ranges. I think there was a Tappan 40" model in the museum in D.C.
The house is very cool and neat as a pin - Margie is 75 years old and moving to an apartment, a real treat to find a house this nice from the original owners!
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Post# 28544-4/4/2003-07:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: The new smell would be so cool to experience - from 1965!
I looked in the Sears '66 spring and summer catalog last night and they are still the TOL for that issue, and still available in turquoise or coppertone brown.
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Post# 28545-4/4/2003-08:21 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (65 timer control)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the wonderful pics. I am so happy and excited for you.Whe you get time, could you post a couple of other close-up pics if the washer timer? These are kinda dark and you can't read the cycle info. I'd really like to get a good look at it. Thanks.
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Post# 28546-4/4/2003-08:45 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (WOW)
MESSAGE: Wow Bruce, a New-Old-Stock turquoise set, that's a dream come true! Congratulations. They must of still had the "new washer" smell!
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Post# 28547-4/4/2003-09:05 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (Bruce! That set is amazing!)
MESSAGE: Bruce,
I can't get over that set! It is like going back to the 60's, and having them shipped to you from the store!
I am so happy for you!
I bet that you are so excited, and having so much fun!
Thanks for sharing this with us!
Brent
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Post# 28548-4/4/2003-09:38 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wow
MESSAGE: Kurtdixon,
welcome to the group!
That Direct Drive Kenmore noise is normal and there's nothing wrong with the transmission. The agitator just thump, thump, thumps away on the heavy-duty cycle that its sounds like the agitator is going to break and fly off the shaft!
Oh the joy of a new toy, but yet the sound of the gears changing can get on ones last nerve except if it comes from a vintage GE/Hotpoint or Norge when braking after the spin cycle!
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Post# 28549-4/4/2003-09:41 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Awesome, simply awesome and it's beyond a dream!
I wish you the best and happy washing Bruce!
Larry
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Post# 28550-4/4/2003-09:49 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (65 timer control)
MESSAGE: Calypso:
Congrats, and glad to hear that they did indeed still have that new smell.
Additional question to add to lesto's: How does the timer work, and how does it interact with the buttons? Is it one of those KMs where you press a button first, then turn the timer dial until it stops at the preset step that goes along with the button? Or is it a plain-Jane timer, and the buttons just give you more flexibility?
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Post# 28551-4/4/2003-09:51 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (WOW)
MESSAGE: Robert, speaking of pictures, how's your new 56 GE coming along? Have you had a chance to plug him in and see if everything is working?
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Post# 28552-4/4/2003-10:33 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wow
MESSAGE: Kurtdixon:
Welcome to the club. Glad to have you and Jamie keeping us well rounded in our age range so we arent just a bunch of geysers harking back to the "good ol days" (you know what Billy Joel said about that: "the good ol days werent always good, and tomorrow aint as bad as it seems").
Do you prefer canisters or uprights? I was always crazy about my Grandfather's early 70s Sears Best canister. It had the two speed motor, and the power cord retracted automatically into the cabinet as you rolled along and after you unplugged it. I wonder if Electrolux built those; it had an Electrolux sound to it.
Grandaddy also had an early 70s floor cleaner, also from Sears. It had 3 sets of pads for dusting or waxing bare floors, or to shampoo carpet. These were color coded red white and blue, and just like a washing machine, there were color coded instruction keys printed on the machine which showed you which color pads to use for what types of applications. You could buy it in one of three colors - you guessed it: red, white, or blue. Nobody used it a lot, not even the cleaning lady, probably because to change out the pads, you had to lift the thing up almost upside down. If you were in the middle of a shampoo, that meant emptying out the container of clean, fresh water and detergent before you were ready - a major pain. Besides, it was horribly unreliable. It was kept out in the garden shed outdoors for most of its life. He should have just let me do his floors for him, cause I always had a ball playing with it.
From the time I was about 8 years old, Mother had a Kirby that, in traditional fashion, she picked up from a travelling salesperson who happened up to our front door. She didnt know beans about the belt, and so it didnt clean our mod polyester shag carpeting as well as it should because she had the belt off it and didnt even know. I had no clue because I just thought the belt was broken. I was sure it was a sucky vacuum that was just the worst thing ever built. It was, like, 8 years later, and I decided one day to just twist the knob which mounts and removes the belt. The belt slipped into place, and I had the best vacuuming experience I had ever had with that machine or any other. It was the Kirby's finest moment, too, since it died the next month!
Also, almost all the attachments got lost when we moved to a new home not even a year after we got the thing, and I had forgotten the demonstration the sales dude did with all of them, so I never knew that Kirbys' selling point is how versatile they are and that they do so much more than just lift dirt off of floors. After a house fire, we got another Kirby with the insurance settlement. I was 18 at the time, and really got to put it through its paces. And, show Mother the *right* way to use it. Ive been a Kirby fan since.
Anyone know when the first vacuum with a belt-driven agitator bar came out?
I have never owned a new vacuum in my life, and never bought one at all because I keep picking up dead vacuums that nobody wants and just refurbishing them. The marvel of these household wonders is how easy they are to fix and rebuild, and how cheap the parts are to do that. Right now, I am using a burgundy Eureka upright that my church was getting ready to throw out, even though it is only about 10 years old. It just needed a good cleaning and a new belt, although the housing is cracked in several places.
I would like to own a new Panasonic canister. I saw one in operation cleaning up from my cousin's wedding, and they really *are* whisper quiet.
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Post# 28553-4/4/2003-11:19 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (An additional note:)
MESSAGE: The original Dick Van Dyke show featured a GE fridge (appears to be around the '59 era with the swing-out shelves, a Caloric wall oven TOL model and a Caloric gas cooktop on the island. Oddly enough, this is the exact kitchen my parents had when I was a kid.
...And you can't forget the two more recent shows....
Drew Carey - the Whirlpool washer and dryer
Home Improvement - originally had the White Westinghouse washer and dryer until Tim the Toolman got smart and trashed them in favor of that classic GM/Frigidaire set on the later shows
I also believe on My Three Sons (pre-Uncle Charley) they had Frigidaire W/D.
Also, you'd think that Maude would have Maytag since Walter was a Maytag dealer and he even won a trip that Maytag was sponsoring.
Isn't it amazing the stuff we pick up?
Dave
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Post# 28554-4/4/2003-11:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
Acme spinner and other pictures
MESSAGE: I uploaded some new pictures to my album. Most people will be interested by the Acme spinner ofcourse. There are also pictures of my new AEG toywasher and some more of the AEG toploader. Besides that there are some pictures of a few small appliances, the 1959 Philips mixer being the oldest of them. Also the Bamix handblender that came up recently is there.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?&.dir=/My+favourite+appliances&.src=ph&.begin=33&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bfavourite%2bappliances%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28555-4/4/2003-12:56 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (3-speed motors)
MESSAGE: Greetings, Mikey!
Three-speed motors were common on TOL machines in the Kenmore/Whirlpool family from about 1964 (maybe a bit earlier) through the mid-1970s. All three speeds were used for agitation (normal/high, gentle/low, hand-wash/ex-low), but only two speeds for spinning (the lowest speed was not used for spin on belt-drive machines).
As I recall, Whirlpool went back to a 2-speed motor around 1976. Kenmore may have kept three speeds for a bit longer, generally being more deluxe-featured than Whirlpool.
Then after the direct-drive machines were found to be excessively rough, three-speed motors came back in style. My 1992 KitchenAid had a three-speed motor. High speed agitation was the middle motor speed, and low speed agitation was the slowest motor speed. The highest motor speed was not used for agitation. All three speeds *were* used for spin, however, depending on the cycle selection. In the final spin on PP, it went through all three speeds -- two mins at low, two mins at medium, two mins at high. The regular cycle had two mins at medium, then four mins at high.
I know there was a 3-speed Frigidaire 1-18, and assume it was a three speed motor and not done through a clutch or mechanical speed changer.
I also clearly recall that the motor from Granny's infamous Kelvy had a three-speed motor (I remember my Dad remarking about that when the machine was trashed and he took the motor out and kept it), but I do not know how the speeds were used for agitation and spin.
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Post# 28556-4/4/2003-15:23 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (An additional note:)
MESSAGE: Dick van Dyke:
Was your folks' kitchen aqua, like Laura Petrie's? I always wondered if the washer/dryer were located in that service porch off the kitchen, or in one of those rooms off the basement rec room.
Drew Carey:
Gotta love those Whirlpools! They are exactly what you would imagine Marion Ross as Drew Carey's Mother using. But I also like the episode where Binford Lauder (sp?) installs a webcam in Drew's home and stuffs it with high-end merchandise as an advertising gimmick. That one features either Frigidaire or Miele front loaders, and a refrigerator that's the bomb.
Home Improvement:
Never could understand why a gadget freak like Tim, who had already loaded up his kitchen with high-end appliances (well...there's that BOL dishwasher they had), got rid of a bare bones Westy set in favor of a rusted out, beaten up Frigidaire set. Jill Taylor always did strike me as being frugal; who knows? Wasnt that Frigidaire w/d shared with the Roseanne set, which late in the series loses those great gold Maytag twins and they get rusted out beaten up Frigidaires?
My Three Sons:
Ive identified the washer/dryer as Norge even during the Bub O'Casey days because shots of the dryer have the characteristic blank door with a round button on the side as a door latch. I have also seen a newspaper ad dated November 1959 that had that set on sale. But, I think the range at the Bryant Park house was Frigidaire. Dont know what the appliances in the Los Angeles home are. Now I think about it, though the show debuted some time in 1961 or so, but Ive never seen any episodes before 1963, so you may be right.
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Post# 28557-4/4/2003-15:37 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (3-speed motors)
MESSAGE: Hey Glenn:
Wonder if that sequence of speed changes in KitchenAid is exclusive to that brand or if Whirlpools now do it. A friend of mine has a late 90s KitchenAid set with a 3-speed washer: Hers also switches over to an extra slow agitation after 2 minutes, and to a high-speed spin in the last few minutes of the spin cycle.
I used to worry that the Kenmore guys calling slow agitation normal back in the early 90s was going to result in lowered cleaning ability, but Ive noticed that it actually has what seems to be the same amount of strokes per minute as a GE activator agitator on regular speed, and certainly more than the belt drive models did. And, Ive taken to washing some of my articles on regular, which on my manual speed control dial gives you a slow agitation and fast spin. It has lessened the "shredmore" effect Appnut speaks of - less tangling.
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Post# 28558-4/4/2003-16:17 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan (single upload)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
I realy like the house and the Tappan
I wish they made ranges like that today
Peter
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Post# 28559-4/4/2003-16:18 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally ( LADY K's)
MESSAGE: Hi Bruce,
I think the Kenmore is great
Peter
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Post# 28560-4/4/2003-16:23 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: "Calyspo Bruce":
I finally checked the Lady's out last night, and don't they look just as elegant as they did when they were introduced 38 years ago?????
And my my........ look at those illuminated buttons.
Question though....... does the washer have a lighted interior tub???? Your 1965 Lady Kenmore Washer is pictured in my Sears S/S 1965 Catalog, and it says that it does. Is it featured in your washer as well??
--Charles--
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Post# 28561-4/4/2003-16:29 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: "Gansky":
So then, the keyboard Lady wasn't introduced until the Fall of 1966 then, right????
The reason I ask you this is because in both, my F/W 1966 and F/W 1967 Sears Catalogs, the keyboard Lady was featured (and the first one at that...... with the Roto-Flex agitator).
I have a picture of Bruce's Ladys as well...... but they are featured in my F/W 1965 Sears Catalog. In fact, they still have the "straight" handles on the lid and door of both machines. I think that Bruce's Ladys have the "curved" handles on them (look closer to them). Now, making that observation, could it be that Bruce's Ladys may very well be an early 1966 model???
--Charles--
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Post# 28562-4/4/2003-16:42 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (65 timer control)
MESSAGE: "Gadgetmad":
On all of the Lady's that were produced from 1963 (could be 1962 as well....... except because I don't have a 1962 Sears Catalog..... so I don't what the 1962 Lady Kenmore looks like) on right through the 1975 Two Speed/Penta-Swirl, the timer has worked in conjunction with the push button controls. On the Ladys of that era, what you did was push a button first, then turn the dial clockwise to the right only, and continue to turn it until it stops. When you cannot advance the timer anymore, then you have chosen the correct cycle. You then push the cycle timer in to start the washer. The push button controls and the timer interact with each other through the means of an escapment and a stop-pin arrangement. Both, my grandmother's (on my father's side..... and hers was a coppertone machine) and my aunt's (on my mother's side..... and hers was pink) 1963 Lady Kenmores, as well as my great aunt's 1966 Keyboard Lady have all worked the same way.
And hopefully, Bruce's 1965 (or is it an early 1966) Lady still has that "new washer" smell.
--Charles--
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Post# 28563-4/4/2003-16:46 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (Your 1975 Lady..... Bruce)
MESSAGE: "Calyspo Bruce":
I kind of figured that your mid 60's Lady Kenmore sounds the same way I remember hearing from the Ladys that were in our family during that time.
But you say that your 1975 Lady sounds different from the 1965-66 Lady. So then, how exactly does your 1975 Lady sounds???
--Charles--
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Post# 28564-4/4/2003-16:49 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (3-speed motors)
MESSAGE: I do believe the multiple spin speed sequence is exclusive to KA in the WP/KA/KM family. They refer to it as "Stepped Spin" and tout it as helping to reduce wrinkles and being gentler on the clothing.
I never did have any "shredding" with my KA. KA has (or used to have) larger lower fins on their agitator than WP and KM, and thus could use the medium motor speed for high-speed agitation, instead of the high motor speed, and get the equivalent washability. WP and KM may now do the same thing on their 3-speed machines, or they may simply use the medium speed for the "regular" cycle and high speed for "heavy duty."
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Post# 28565-4/4/2003-16:53 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (WOW....... Unimatic.....)
MESSAGE: "Unimatic":
They look "DAZZLING" in turquoise. Don't you just love turquoise????
--Charles-- :)
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Post# 28566-4/4/2003-16:56 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wow
MESSAGE: The first vacuum with a BELT driven brushroller was, I believe, the hoover model 102. I am not positive though. (it may have been an earlier model of hoover, but it was a hoover.) And the first beater bar vacuum was, of course the hoover model 700:-)
Thanks to everyone else though, you calmed my fears of a defective kenmore:-) At least one thing I remember from our belt drive kenmore was the sound of the wigwag. The click, click, click as it moved back and forth. Also about the clunk before spin with our new washer, I was not too scared about that since the manual told me of the sound. The washer is three speed and the thumping is loud on the highest speed. But I can't usually hear it on normal or slow agitation. (unless there is a bulky load in.)
BTW I have watched many a washer cycle! I have watched the new kenmore go through it's cycle. I was very amazed at how fast that thing stops. (with an empty basket.) Oh yeah, and you should have heard our belt drive kenmore go into spin! Since the ears of the spin tube were sheared off, it slipped against the block and caused quite a screech until the basket was at full speed (which was already slow since the belt drive had a sluggish spin as a result of the design, but ours was slower since the spin tube was worn out.) But before I could remember, we had a GE filter flo and a GE dryer (i think it was a filter flo, at least) I don't know why we replaced that (We replaced the washer first. I can't complain that we replaced it with the kenmore:-) But it would have been neat to watch the GE go through its cycle.
Older Kirby vacuums were actually pretty good. Cleaned quite well and were definitely built to last. But they are too "old" now. They still use a cloth bag. And you have to remove the nozzle to use attachments (of which no one EVER uses) I love really old uprights (like the old hoovers.) Or older canisters/tanks (like electroluxs) or new central vacs. I sometimes have trouble sticking to a topic (like on the vacuum forums, I sometimes stray and start talking about other appliances:-) I will have lots of stuff to talk about with washers though. (I have some other stories with our belt drive.)
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Post# 28567-4/4/2003-16:57 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (3-speed motors.... DADoES)
MESSAGE: "DADoES":
Actually, Sears did away with the three speed motor back in 1974. The 1974-75 large capacity Lady Kenmore had a two speed motor with the Penta-Swirl agitator.
The 1973 Lady was the last one to have a three speed motor.
--Charles--
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Post# 28568-4/4/2003-17:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (An additional note:)
MESSAGE: Does anyone remember any basement or laundry scenes from Happy Days or Lavern and Shirley? I was thinking about the TV subject and can't remember any...
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Post# 28569-4/4/2003-17:08 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
One thing though.
MESSAGE: One thing I dislike about the direct drive kenmores (whirlpools) is that the neutral drain only works once per drain. If I stop the motor during the drain, when it starts up again, the basket spins too. The funnel is pretty cool, but I am pretty sure that isn't great for the clutch. If I want another neutral drain, I have to put the water on low, turn the washer to fill, let it agitate for a couple seconds, then move it back to spin and then it will neutral drain. One way that I fooled the neutral drain on our belt drive was to turn and hold the water level switch on reset and hold down the lid switch in spin. Then it would spin drain:-) I have gone to member links here and looked at some pictures. The rebuilding pictures of the '57 lady K were very interesting. (it had so many lights! I counted 3.)
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Post# 28570-4/4/2003-17:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Interesting, the b/w picture of the LK's in the s/s '66 catalog shows the straight handle on the washer. On the lower end models, there are the curved handles that we all know and love.
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Post# 28571-4/4/2003-17:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (OH MY GOD)
MESSAGE: I can finally post a response to this because I'm turqouise with envy. That is a once in a lifetime experience to find a set a new old stock machines like that. I'm sure more of those exist.
I think you're probably the first in the club to have such a find.
Anyway, perfect machines. So eerie to see the machines as they were in 1965.
That agitator looks like it expands the capacity of the washer. Instead of those big swirls, you have just the little fins. How is it with rolling clothes over?
I bet that 3rd slow speed makes a helluva cool sound while it's agitating. "woooo....woooooo.....woooooo....." Not to mention, I'm sure this machine goes "Grind-click-clunk" like a good Kenmore should.
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Post# 28572-4/4/2003-18:06 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: I just hope someday to be able to see these machines run.
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Post# 28573-4/4/2003-18:52 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (An additional note:)
MESSAGE: I have been thinking about this subject also & If I remember correctly, Didn't Mr & Mrs Oliver Douglas of (Green Acres) have a GE Mobile Maid, Impeller wash, Top Load dishwasher. I remember it on the back wall of the kitchen when she would have to unplug something to plug something else in???? Or am I all wrong. Michael
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Post# 28574-4/4/2003-19:46 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Re: Green Acres Appliances:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Michael, Yes, you are correct about the GE Dishwasher and they had a Pink Maytag Washer/Dryer Combo, that I think was an early 60s Model. Oliver set-up this coding in the corner of the Kitchen for Lisa to plug and unplug certain Appliances, so as to not to Blow the Fuses. As I remember, she didn't succeed very fast in learning and did end up Blowing Fuses for quite a while. I always liked it when she was going to serve
"Hots-Cakes" to Oliver, even for Dinner, because that was the only thing that she really knew how to Cook, besides trying to make Coffee, that came out thick as Mud into the Cups. I also liked it when they had to climb up onto the Telephone Pole to answer their Phone and poor Oliver would fall off the Pole, because of loosing his balance, until he got used to doing that too. It was funny when they decided to have the Bedroom Remodeled and the 2-Brother's Alph and Ralph came to do the work and they installed the Closet Doors that would slide off of the Track and fall out on the Ground or on the Bedroom Floor {I forget which they did}. Remember that one of the Brother's was a Woman, instead of a Man, which one was the Woman? I believe it was Alph, but I'm not totally sure.
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Post# 28575-4/4/2003-23:30 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (An additional note:)
MESSAGE: No, actually my parent's kitchen (at least the Caloric appliances) were pink. The frige was (and still is) white. It's still running. They relocated it down to the laundry room as a beverage cooler.
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Post# 28576-4/4/2003-23:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (65 timer control)
MESSAGE: Chris, read the instructions on the lid. It says, push button, turn dial until it stops, then push in.
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Post# 28577-4/5/2003-00:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (An additional note:)
MESSAGE: Chris, I still say the My Three Sons washer & dryer were Always Frigidaire. Frigidaire flow-thorugh dryers had that same blank look door witht he button to open the door on the left side, just like Norge.
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Post# 28578-4/5/2003-00:05 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
Re: Finally, tried the Purex "HE" Tablets:
MESSAGE: Hi! dear Club Friends, I wanted to let you all know that I finally did my Laundry on Friday and I used the Purex "HE" Tablets on all 3-loads, in my Neptune. I really think that my Whites were Whiter than lately with the Wisk "HE" but I'm not knocking the Wisk "HE" Detergent. These are nice to use, because of being Tablets, and pre-measured and all 3-loads were large enough to warrent using the Tablets, instead of using the Wisk "HE" again and trying the Purex "HE" Tablets later on. The smell is wonderful and it mixes with the smell of the Snuggle Fabric Softener {I use the liquid}. I quit using the Dryer Sheets long ago, when one of our Dryers a 1992 Hotpoint had the Lint Filter in front and the Sheets ended up in the Filter, since it still had the similar Filter as the GE's had for such a long time, since I know that they are related, but I always liked the looks of the Hotpoint's somewhat more than the GE's and the features. I'm real interested in the GE Spot-Scrubber Washer and I'm on the
look-out for one now. Thank you for everyone's experience and likes of the Purex "HE" Tablets and getting me as with everyone else to try them. They are great and smell real good too. They are pretty reasonable cost as well.
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Post# 28579-4/5/2003-00:52 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
Pictures
MESSAGE: I just added a link in the "member links." I wouldn't call our appliances classics. But I will be adding other pictures as well.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/kurtdixon7/lst?.dir=/&.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 28580-4/5/2003-01:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures
MESSAGE: Kurt, thanks for those pictures! That is the *exact* DD Kenmore we have. The Maytag dryer and d/w are also identical to models that were sold in the US. That belt drive Sears washer, however, is unlike any I've ever seen. What is the second language on the timer, French? I wonder why the new Sears Canadian washers are not similarly bilingual?
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Post# 28581-4/5/2003-01:12 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures
MESSAGE: Very nice pics! Thanks for sharing them.
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Post# 28582-4/5/2003-01:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (Your 1975 Lady..... Bruce)
MESSAGE: Charles, I can't put my finger on anything exact, but I agree that the 60s and 70s Kenmores do sound somewhat different from one another, and (at least I thought) Robert's 1957 Kenmore sounds different than those made in the 60s and 70s, although from what I can gather the insides of these various machines don't vary in any large measure. Perhaps it has something to do with the QuietPak insulation that was used on certain later models?
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Post# 28583-4/5/2003-01:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (65 timer control)
MESSAGE: Charles, the earliest occurrence of the "stopping timer" I've seen is on a 1959 Lady Kenmore. On that model instead of buttons, you set the outer ring of the timer dial to the correct letter for the cycle you want, then pull and turn the center part of the knob until it stops. This type of timer was also used on at least some of the f/l washer/dryer combos.
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Post# 28584-4/5/2003-05:27 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (An additional note:)
MESSAGE: Gee, Greg, I remember none from L&S, and the only thing I remember from HD was occasionally they were in the back yard and when the door was open you could catch a glimpse of the washer or dryer. Couldn't tell much. I always looked for a laundry scene on Hazel also because of the Philco Bendix top loader and matching window door dryer. But there were none. All you ever got to see was a far off shot of both from the kitchen......
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Post# 28585-4/5/2003-05:44 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Finally, tried the Purex "HE" Tablets:
MESSAGE: I also like the Purex tablets but only in the "mountain" flavor. The original is a bit strong in the fragrance department for me. They really do deliver explosive cleaning, and honestly I am a bit surprised since over the years, Purex was never known for being a great product. But I guess things do change.....
Also, was at the local Shaw's supermarket and spotted a new item. Liquid Fab in "Caribbean Breeze" fragrance with bleach alternative. Comes in a bright pink bottle with a blue cap. Also unlike other Fab products, instructions are in English and Spanish - but is made here in the US. Haven't tried it since my initial sniff test tells me it isn't that much different than Fab sunshower fresh. Besides, I am not sure I understand the point of this. Based on the representation in our supermarkets and WalMarts, KMarts, etc... Colgate is not really a player in the laundry area anymore. Their products are not advertised at all and their availability here is minimal - even in WalMart which appears to have stopped carrying even the Fab liquids.. Our shelves are dominated by all of the Tide products, Wisk, All, Era, Purex, Arm & Hammer and strangely enough for this area, Gain. I say strangely because Gain was never a very popular brand here in CT. Everyone has Cheer liquid, but Cheer powder is spotty. Surf(All) liquids are somewhat available but the powder and tablets are only and occasionally available in KMart. No Fab or Ajax powders at all and the liquids are only available at Shaw's and KMart. I am also seeing a fair amount of shelf space devoted to "bargain brands" like Xtra (now owned by Arm & Hammer, Sea Mist and something called "Guaranteed Value".
What seems to have disappeared completely is the REdox Brands version of Oxydol as well as P&G's Bold powder. Haven't seen that anywhere for a long time......
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Post# 28586-4/5/2003-06:28 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: more keymatic (How it Works!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi scott.
There was a keyplate with the machine, still in its slot.
Chris.
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Post# 28587-4/5/2003-09:05 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
Look what we have here???
MESSAGE: Bare bone GE straight vane agitator in avocado green or harvest gold, I can't make out the true color....
Does anybody know the year of these pairs; 1970 or 1972?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20714&item=2315935821
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Post# 28588-4/5/2003-09:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what we have here???
MESSAGE: This looks very similar to my childhood washer and dryer pair, ours was a bit older I think. With the gold on the panel, I would guess this one is 74-76. Definitely a straight vane activator though.
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Post# 28589-4/5/2003-09:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: One thing though.
MESSAGE: There a couple advantages of the spin-drain, the most important is that the dirty wash water isn't strained through the clothes as much as with neutral draining and also, you get the clothes higher and more spread out in the basket for spinning and the rare, but still important spray rinsing is more effective with more surfaces of the fabrics exposed to the water spray.
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Post# 28590-4/5/2003-09:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what we have here???
MESSAGE: Larry, the machiens are harvest gold. They are late 60s early 70s, based on timer style that I remember seeing in that era of GEs.
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Post# 28591-4/5/2003-09:39 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures
MESSAGE: Kurt, thanks for sharing the pics. I particularly like the belt drive. That panel style was truely "Canadian". Ours here int he us had the universal black faced panel with the timer knob in the center with other knobs located on either side and smaller. This panel style is similar to what Sears used here in the 1973 or 1974 time frame, if not a bit later, before the new "universal" panel that emerged in 1975 or 1976. Personally, I feel your panel style had a bit more style than ours. And I love the large graphics on the timer too. Please explain what the meaning of the screw in the door on the Maytag DW is, I couldn't read the print in the box on the picture. This dishwasher is exactly like my friends' Max & Kirks dishwasher, except theirs doesn't have the Rinse & Hold on the dial. Bob
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Post# 28592-4/5/2003-10:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what we have here???
MESSAGE: Probably no later than 72. That's about when they changed the style of the timer dial, of which these are the older style. Seem to be in nice condition.
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Post# 28593-4/5/2003-11:27 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures
MESSAGE: My friend just bought a 90 series Kenmore washer with Triple action, 2nd rinse and auto temp control. Does your have 3 speeds? My friend's has fast, slow, ex slow which is the same speed as a belt drive kenmore on high speed. Isn't that veird?
I really like the hole pattern on the new white Kenmore wash baskets. Kind of a spiral/psychedelic design. You really don't see much of an affect while it's spinning but it's pretty fun to look at.
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Post# 28594-4/5/2003-11:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (3-speed motors)
MESSAGE: My old Whirly had a stepped spin. On Perm Press, it would spin on low for a few minutes, then it would stop and kick up to high speed and dance all over the floor for another few minutes.
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Post# 28595-4/5/2003-11:30 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Finally, tried the Purex "HE" Tablets: (I TOLD YOU SO!)
MESSAGE: Purex HE tablets are just wonderful. The liquid is great too.
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Post# 28596-4/5/2003-11:37 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT:
cyber museum
MESSAGE: Uni I can hardly wait for the westy and SQ wings to open what a GREAT site.
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Post# 28597-4/5/2003-12:07 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (3-speed motors)
MESSAGE: Jasonl, them Whirl-Mores sure knows how to do the rumba step in the permanent press step spin cycle....
On my 3 speed Kenmore it does 2 minuets extra slow, 2 minuets slow and 1 minuet high, but when I add the wrinkle guard feature, the 1 minuet high speed spin is canceled out.
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Post# 28598-4/5/2003-12:46 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what we have here???
MESSAGE: Yep, I wished that he took the filter off to let us see if it was a 6 or 8 vane a activator!
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Post# 28599-4/5/2003-12:47 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what we have here???
MESSAGE: Sure enough they are!
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Post# 28600-4/5/2003-12:49 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what we have here???
MESSAGE: Thanks Bob, my eyes has been playing trick on me drooling over that filter! :-))
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Post# 28601-4/5/2003-12:52 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Reminder:
MESSAGE: Thanks for the reminder Steve........
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Post# 28602-4/5/2003-12:59 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Now that's funny!
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Post# 28603-4/5/2003-14:33 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures
MESSAGE: Scott asked about the second language on the control panel. It is French. I am also curious why there isn't two languages on the new Kenmores. There aren't very many French people where I live. If we bought the DD in Quebec, it would only have french, or have big french letter and tiny english ones:-)
Our DD kenmore is three speed. Our belt drive was two speed but the speeds were built into the timer. It was okay but I like a seperate knob to set the speeds. And I said how the spin was slow, well we always used perm press (until I noted the very slow spin) On perm press the spin is slow speed so that it doesn't set wrinkles. But it was too slow so I put that note on the top right corner saying "use cottons" since the cottons cycle had a hi speed spin. The only repairs on that washer were a leaky water valve, a sock in the pump and a bad spin solenoid. If I was old enough I could do those repairs. But the last time the belt drive was repaired was about 8 years ago, so I was too young.
About the screw in the dishwasher, that was what a repairman put there. The plastic stoppers broke off so the cover slid all the way around and the spring had no tension. (so it didn't open) The guy tried a nice new white one but it "didn't work" So he made the old one ugly (with the screw) The only other repair was the water valve. Except the repairman that time put in a single solenoid valve. Those are for the WC models. (ours is a WU model.) That works fine except I like the right parts in the appliances. (so I don't like the rusty screw in the detergent cup either.)
And the dryer has not had, or needed a repair. (I just cleaned it out about a year ago.)
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Post# 28604-4/5/2003-14:39 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Sorry to be so behind, but are those lady K's brand new? They haven't been used, the shipping parts are still in. How did anyone manage to get brand new 1960's washer and dryer set?
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Post# 28605-4/5/2003-15:20 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (3-speed motors)
MESSAGE: Larry, you've completely lost me. What 3-speed Kenmore R U talking about? And wrinkle guard feature on a washer HUH??? Please start "splainin'".
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Post# 28606-4/5/2003-15:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Kirt, Bruce bought them on an auction on Ebay.
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Post# 28607-4/5/2003-15:47 ||| Activator (Tulsa, OK)
SUBJECT:
Roper means Ripper...
MESSAGE: Hi all, it's been a long time, and my laundry is so boring now...(sniff). One redeeming feature of my "new" Roper (Ripper - I have NEVER seen such frenzied agitation in any machine) is that the top piece of the agitator lifts off and houses the lint filter. What is amusing is to run a wash cycle...WITHOUT the top of the agitator cylinder. It's uncanny...the "ghost" agitator. The sad thing is, for all that frantic speed, the strokes are short, and the clothes just seem to sit there when it's a full load. Small loads, shallow water, and they roll over just like the good old days. I wonder why that is...
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Post# 28608-4/5/2003-16:26 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: That is a once in a lifetime find!
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Post# 28609-4/5/2003-16:30 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Roper means Ripper... (Sometimes)
MESSAGE: That happens every once in ahwile with our kenmore. With a full load of clothes, the clothes on top look still. So I move it to heavy duty speed and the clothes start rolling like they should. But for the most part, the clothes roll over fine on any speed.
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Post# 28610-4/5/2003-17:21 ||| reeledit (USA)
SUBJECT:
lady kenmore late 50s intructions
MESSAGE: Dear friends,
We recently bought a house that came with a late 50s early 60s lady kenmore washing machine in prefect working order. Unfortunatly it came with no instuction munual and we alreadt had a flood incident with the sud saver feature.
HELP... we want to keep it and love it. anyone got an intruction manual. I'l email photos for model identification.
Thanks
Simon and Mary
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Post# 28611-4/5/2003-17:47 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (3-speed motors)
MESSAGE: Bob, you will find this feature on the Kenmore Electronic 90 series.
Cycles----------------- (Without) WRINKLE GUARD------- (with) WRINKE GUARD -----
Heavy Duty------------- 6 minuets --------- FAST -------------2 minuets----- FAST
Regular------------------- 6 minuets --------- FAST ------------ 2 minuets----- FAST
Permanent press ---- 1 minuet EXTRA SLOW ----------- 1 minuet------- EXTRA SLOW
------------------------------- 3 minuets SLOW --------------------- 3 minuets----- SLOW
------------------------------- 1 minuet FAST
Delicate ------------------ 4 minuets ----------- SLOW --------- 2 minuets ---- SLOW
Extra Delicate --------- 4 minuets ----------- SLOW ---------- 2 minuets---- SLOW
Hand Washables----- 4 minuets ----------- SLOW ---------- 2 minuets --- SLOW
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/cleanteamofny/vwp?.dir=/Electronic+90+Series&.dnm=Picture+146.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 28612-4/5/2003-17:58 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
old kenmore washer (keep it!)
MESSAGE: Those old Kenmore's/Whirlpools are some of the best.I am restoring a 1961 Whirlpool from E Bay. I am amazed that all the parts I need are available in stock at our local appliance parts place,here in Fort Wayne.Hang on to that machine.They are built like a tank! I saw an ad on E bay for an owners manual for a 57-58 Kenmore washer on E bay,last week.I don't remember the item # but it was listed under "vintage washing machines" or "vintage washers" No bids were on it at that time. Good luck! (-:
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Post# 28613-4/5/2003-19:50 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down"
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friends, does anyone remember a mid to late 1940s Kenmore Washer that had to be "Bolted-Down" because it was one of the first Kenmore Automatic's made and it didn't have a suspension/stablizer system mechanism, to hold it in place when it was Spinning? They had a round Cabinet, like a Wringer Washer, had a flat rear area where the Timer and Water Temp Controls sat and it had a lift-off Lid with a handle across the center, like a Wringer Washer Lid and it naturally as with lots of the original Washer's made, it didn't have any Safety Switch to stop the Spin action. Sevearal Friends of our Family had these Washers, but I never got to watch and of them Washing the Laundry.
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Post# 28614-4/5/2003-20:31 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down"
MESSAGE: In the vintage articles on the May 1948 issue the one page report has a p[icture of this washer and tells about it.
Odod get to see one running in the early 80's when Sears was celebrating gthe 25th anniversery of their automatic washers. This was at a mall in Metaire, LA.
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Post# 28615-4/5/2003-21:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (3-speed motors)
MESSAGE: Larry, thanks for the info. I never would have imagined. I'm horn swaggoled.
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Post# 28616-4/5/2003-21:43 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Look what we have here???
MESSAGE: Yay! That is pretty much the exact model that was my first introduction to GE.
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Post# 28617-4/5/2003-21:45 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (3-speed motors)
MESSAGE: Ahhh. Hmmm. Interesting.
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Post# 28618-4/6/2003-00:20 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
WP, KM motors
MESSAGE: Currently, what HP motor is in WP and KM washers? is it 1/3 or 1/2 or something else? What did it used to be?
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Post# 28619-4/6/2003-00:43 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (An additional note:)
MESSAGE: The only laundry scene I can remember on either show was the very last episode of Happy Days when everyone is standing out in the back yard of the Cunningham's, and someone opens the back door revealing a dryer of uncertain vintage and make.
Laverne and Shirley once were contestants on a game show; one of the prizes was a set of home appliances, but all I can remember is the waffle iron, which was just like my grandparents'.
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Post# 28620-4/6/2003-00:51 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures
MESSAGE: Well your new KM has to be the first time Ive seen a Canadian Kenmore that looked exactly like the American version.
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Post# 28621-4/6/2003-00:59 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures
MESSAGE: Jason:
How many speed combinations on the manual speed control? Does it have the Hand Washables feature with the intermittent agitation? Have you seen the triple action (it really *does* have 3 movements) at work yet?
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Post# 28622-4/6/2003-01:53 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Triple)
MESSAGE: Your post was to Jason, but I have watched the triple action. It doesn't go up and down like an old Frigidaire or anything. It just moves up for very big or bulky loads (like a king size bedspread!) The way the sears salesman explained it was that it could clean big loads better since it can get above the top of the load better, thus it can roll it over better. Not only that but the spiral is sort of turned down, this seems to move the clothes better too.
Another wierd thing with our belt drive washer was when it started agitation after fill. It made a big slam and some water shot out of the drain hose. (with enough force to make it jump) Anyone know if the belt drives were supposed to slam at the beginning of agitation? Or were they supposed to go into it smoothly as with the DDs?
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Post# 28623-4/6/2003-03:21 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT:
RE: WP, KM motors (wp km motors)
MESSAGE: for the belt drives it was 1/2 for the washer and 1/3 for the dryer.
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Post# 28624-4/6/2003-03:34 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Triple)
MESSAGE: Don't know that I would call it a "slam," but yes, that's normal for belt-drives. A mechanical linkage between the pump and the agitation shift bar switched the pump between recirculate and drain. The pump is always in drain mode if the machine is not agitating, and the pump is always running when the motor is running, and it takes mechanical movement of the transmission to run the wig-wag for shifting into agitation, and so there is an instant when the motor turns on that the pump is still in drain mode.
I guess the "slam" could be when a particular spring-loaded mechanism in the transmission engages the agitator shaft. There may be more or less of a "slam" each time depending on how the various parts are aligned at the instant before the gears engage.
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Post# 28625-4/6/2003-03:54 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Washer Sounds before Wash Start:)
MESSAGE: Hi! kirtdixon, this is Steve {SactoTeddyBear} that noise that you hear is natural and the Hose "jumping" is all right too. Our Belt-Drive Kenmore's all did that same thing. I would watch the Washer start the Wash or Rinse and if it didn't do that when it stopped Filling and starting the Agitation, I would watch the Action of the Agitator and when it was starting to go towards the left, I would stop the Washer with the Timer and start it after a few seconds, just to hear the Wig-Wag Solenoid give its squeel noise and have the small amount of Water excape through the Drain Hose. That noise was the Wig-Wag being like as if it was at the end of the Final Spin, coming to a stop and when the Washer was finished Filling, it was moving the Wig-Wag Solenoid through the Cam Rods from the Pump-Out to the Agitation starting and it made that noise and drained a little water, causing the Drain Hose to "jump" and almost come out of the Laundry Sink, until we later on had a Stand-Pipe installed. Before the Stand-Pipe, we had a wire shaped bracket that sat over the top of the Wash Tub side and it had a rounded lower part that sat in the inside area of the Laundry Sink and the Drain Hose was inserted through that part of the Wire Framing just for that reason, to prevent the hose from "jumping" out of the Laundry Sink. Try that sometime, if you can with the rear service cover removed and watch the Wig-Wag Solenoid's running back and forth and watch them changing the Cam Rods. If you don't get the timing just right, do like I did, I would try it several times until it would give me the whole run of the Cam Rod from the Pump position to the Wash position. The older 1952 Kenmore Washer my Parents had and I owned one in 1965, but unfortunately sold it in late 1960s, I think was a even neater sounding Machine, compared to the newer 1960s and 1970s Belt-Drive's, but I'm not complaining though. {lol}...
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Post# 28626-4/6/2003-04:39 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Triple)
MESSAGE: Ahh, now I get it. I kind got the part with the little bit of water. But I didn't understand the slam very well. I think I do now. Ours may have been louder than normal for whatever reason. (something worn out?)
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Post# 28627-4/6/2003-04:45 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Washer Sounds before Wash Start:)
MESSAGE: I did watch the wigwag do its stuff with our belt drive just before we got our new washer. It makes such a unique sound. The belt drives were, in my mind, the most fascinating mechanical washers. I haven't watched the insides of many other washers, but I liked watching the belt drive "behind the access panel"
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Post# 28628-4/6/2003-04:49 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: lady kenmore late 50s intructions
MESSAGE: Hi Simon and Mary,
Welcome to the group!
If it is possible, can you post some pictures of those great machines through Yahoo Photo's Briefcase and post the link to share with us?
I have a manual and I will give you the instruction below:
(SUD SAVER MODELS ONLY)
Your laundry tub should be at least 20 gallon capacity. Be sure the tub is plugged if you want the suds water, and unplugged if you do not want to save the suds water.
Suds savers models have a special hose that allows suds water to flow into the laundry tub when the wash portion of the Normal or Delicate cycle complete. (Suds water is not saved in the Wash-N-Wear cycle, because the water has been diluted and cooled by the addition of the cool-down rinse water, and would not be desirable for the next wash load. All water from the Wash-n-Wear cycle drains through the drain hose.)
(To return Suds water to the machine)
Pull out the Wash Time Control, turn to Suds and push the Control in. Water will return automatically, leaving about an inch of water with settled soil in the bottom of the laundry tub. As the Wash Time Control moves from SUDS to the Wash portion of the Normal cycle, additional water will come into the washer from the faucets to regain the required level. The machine agitates to reactivate the suds while the suds water returns.
To use the return water for the Delicate cycle, reset the Wash Time Control after the water has returned.
Load clothes after the suds water has returned. Add about one half as much detergent as used originally to make up for that which was used in the washing the first load.
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This was taken from an owners manual for the model 700, 600, 500, 400 series machines.
I hope this helps,
Larry
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Post# 28629-4/6/2003-07:51 ||| gregm (central MA)
SUBJECT:
Bruce's LK's
MESSAGE: I saw Bruce's new turquoise Lady Kenmore set yesterday. They are indeed beautiful, love all the lights. Congrads Bruce and best of luck with them.
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Post# 28630-4/6/2003-10:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (3-speed motors)
MESSAGE: Jason, we have the same washer as Kurt and it does have 3 speeds. The middle speed works well for a lot of things.
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Post# 28631-4/6/2003-10:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Kurt, Bruce located those wonderful machines on Ebay. I think he said they were purchased for the couple as a gift, but never used because their water system could not handle the needs of the washer (so I'm assuming they had a wringer washer they continued to use). Robert, our club founder, has found a couple of very nice, little used machines at sales locally, because the owner never quite made the jump to automatic washing.
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Post# 28632-4/6/2003-10:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: lady kenmore late 50s intructions
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club, what a wonderful thing it is to have that vintage washer! The model number will help us tell how old your machine is. If we can't find any manuals, many of us here can give you tips on operating the machine!
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Post# 28633-4/6/2003-10:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down"
MESSAGE: I"ve not seen that machine running, but I have seen one, in person and in pictures.
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Post# 28634-4/6/2003-10:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: WP, KM motors
MESSAGE: It was 1/2 for belt drives, no clue for direct drives.
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Post# 28635-4/6/2003-10:52 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
only 5 years old and in georgia
MESSAGE: GM Style?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2316034031&category=20714
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Post# 28636-4/6/2003-10:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Triple)
MESSAGE: Each belt drive machine I've seen has done that when it starts agitation, it makes that sound and emits a bit of water from the drain hose. Some of them also have a solenoid sound toward the end of the wash cycle. I had always thought it was to switch to suds saver mode, but someone here said it had to do with the bleach dispenser.
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Post# 28637-4/6/2003-11:34 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia
MESSAGE: What?, Only 5 years old?
This is the Westinghouse built one right?
-Alex
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Post# 28638-4/6/2003-13:08 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia
MESSAGE: No, that is a real GM Frigidaire alright.
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Post# 28639-4/6/2003-13:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures
MESSAGE: Hmm.. Lemme think. It has 5 speed selections:
Handwash int. ex-slow/slow
Delicate ex-slow/slow
perm press slow/slow
normal slow/fast
heavy fast/fast
The ex. slow sounds like a belt drive washer on FAST. Strange.
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Post# 28640-4/6/2003-13:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Triple action)
MESSAGE: I think I have actually seen the triple action work.
I overloaded it with towels (low water level) and the agitator did seem to rise up about an inch to help push the towels down. It DOES roll anything over. As far as proper loading and full water level. No, you won't see it rise but it will corkscrew like any other dual action.
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Post# 28641-4/6/2003-13:33 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Washer Sounds before Wash Start:)
MESSAGE: Be grateful you got to see and hear a belt-drive machine in action. They are SO classic and fun to watch and listen to.
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Post# 28642-4/6/2003-13:34 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (3-speed motors)
MESSAGE: The "slow" agitate is fine for just about anything. The clothes roll over and it doesn't violent thrash the clothes around.
If only the spin was about 1000rpm
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Post# 28643-4/6/2003-13:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Triple)
MESSAGE: Kurt, what you described on you r belt-drive was perfectly normal--the wig-wag shifting into position to agitate. And a short shot of water was supposed to come out of the pump. Similar activities, noise wise and pump shot, happen on my 1986 DD LK.
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Post# 28644-4/6/2003-14:23 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia (Attention Steve1-18!!!)
MESSAGE: If this truely is a GM Frigidaire dryer, you could add a gas 1-18 to your collection, and gas ones are rare as we know, so GO FOR IT!!!
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Post# 28645-4/6/2003-14:38 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia
MESSAGE: Am I tripping or is the door reversed on that one?
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Post# 28646-4/6/2003-15:32 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally
MESSAGE: Those really are great kenmores. My mom has told me that she grew up on a wringer washer. (she grew up in the 50s so I guess my grandma didn't get an automatic until later.) I like automatics more than wringer washers. I just like how so many mechanical and electrical systems work together, so reliably for the most part.
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Post# 28647-4/6/2003-15:40 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Washer Sounds before Wash Start:)
MESSAGE: They are a lot of fun. I kind of wish we kept our belt drive around. I probably could have fixed it up. Thats okay though, there are so many belt drives around that I could find. Besides, I have the console and agitator, so I could just swap those parts and have our belt drive again:-)
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Post# 28648-4/6/2003-17:09 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia
MESSAGE: Actually the whole picture is reversed, the timer is on the wrong side too.
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Post# 28649-4/6/2003-18:32 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia
MESSAGE: How did they manage to do that??
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Post# 28650-4/6/2003-20:15 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Shifting Noises:)
MESSAGE: Hey! kurtdixon, this is Steve "SactoTeddyBear" again, I forgot to let you know about another noise that you might be hearing is from the Shift Arm on the Pump. There is supposed to be a rubber sleeve on the end of the Arm that Shift's the Pump from Recirculating "Filtering" to Drain "Pump-Out" and if that Rubber Sleeve is missing, it won't really cause any problems, it will mostly just cause more noise of Metal to Metal contact when the Cam Shaft is Shifting that Arm from the Filtering to the Drain Valve direction of the Flapper inside the Pump, during that Wig-Wag movement when starting the Wash, if the Cams are still in the Spin position, when the Agitation Starts.
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Post# 28651-4/6/2003-20:46 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Shifting Noises:)
MESSAGE: I'm no expert but...on my whirlpool the shaft bolt holds the hunk of metal down on the wigwag got loose resulting in a hurrendous bang when the machine switched to spin gear, might do the same maybe on the agitate side? It took me awhile to see what was happening, then i turned the machine on its side and manually turned the pully and positioned the wig-wag for spin and wham that cam bar shot into the motor like a bullet, this the big BANG. Tightened her up and that fixed that. Maybe thats what yours was doing?
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Post# 28652-4/6/2003-20:48 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia (reversing emultion)
MESSAGE: I think when pictures get developed they can put the negitive in up side down thus resulting in a *backwards* like you see there. You see that all the time in the phonebook and in car ads. I learned this by accident in photo class.
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Post# 28653-4/6/2003-22:00 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Shifting Noises:)
MESSAGE: That may have been. I am not sure if our pump had the rubber sleeve. One question though to anyone, what is the three hose pump for? I know the four hose is for the recirculating washers (the ones with the waterfall at the top:-) And the two hose is for straight drain. But the three hose had a narrow little port and our belt drive had a three hose pump. However, the third port was capped off.
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Post# 28654-4/6/2003-22:03 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Shifting Noises:)
MESSAGE: That may be also. You mean the cam bar hold down spring? I went to this site
http://www.appliancerepair.net/spsr/a1parts/
And under the belt drive whirlpool it said that if the spring broke or got loose, it would cause all sorts of weird problems. Or were you talking about something else?
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Post# 28655-4/6/2003-22:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia
MESSAGE: Jason, the image is inverted.
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Post# 28656-4/6/2003-22:35 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Shifting Noises, Pump extra Openings:)
MESSAGE: Hey! KurtDixon, is the opening you are talking about a smaller one on the upper part of the Pump, with a little round rubber sleeve over it and a small Spring Clamp holding it on? If that is the opening I think you are talking about, some Kenmore Washers used that opening for Dispensing through that Pump of I think the Bleach, so it would be diluted before getting near the Laundry. I have a Repair Master for Whirlpool/Kenmore, but it isn't new enough. Mine is Copyright: 1963, it needs to be newer, but still for Belt-Drive Washers, to show that later Style Pumps with the extra smaller opening plugged, that was for dispensing the Bleach, but I'm farily sure I'm correct about that. If someone has a newer Repair Master for Wh/K Washers, I would even appreciate their checking, I'm thinking at least a late 1960s or early 1970s, just before they started making the Direct-Drive Washers. The Manufacture's of
multi-use Parts make just a few molds and then if some of that parts area isn't needed, in this case that smaller opening, they just cover it for other non-use needs.
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Post# 28657-4/6/2003-22:57 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Shifting Noises, Pump extra Openings:)
MESSAGE: Oh okay. So it was still a 2 hose pump, it just had the added "feature" (that wasn't getting used on our washer.) I suppose we won't see the days of all those neat little features on washers again.
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Post# 28658-4/6/2003-23:16 ||| COLDSPOT66 (South of Boston, Mass)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Shifting Noises, Pump extra Openings:)
MESSAGE: Hey Kurt,
It is great to see someone so young interested in appliances.
Replying to your post about the 3 port pump; it was originally used for the "bed of nails" waterfall lint filter (replacing the 4 port pump used mainly on w/p models with the brush type filter. Kenmore then switched to a filter plate attached to the bottom of the inner tub, much like the direct drive models. according to my service books, you must use the 3 port pump as a replacement and cap off the small port because there is alot of lint in the water and it will clog up a 2 port pump prematurely.
you can usually tell if a ken/wp washer has a filter plate by the absence of the filter port at the right front corner as you open the lid, and also the holes in the tub do not go all the way up to the top of the tub.
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Post# 28659-4/6/2003-23:29 ||| Baister (Portland, OR)
SUBJECT:
Just got my dream stove and need help!
MESSAGE: I just drove 1300 miles roundtrip to pick up my dream stove, a 1950 Wedgewood that I got on ebay. It's in fairly good shape but there is quite a bit of rust on some of the internal parts and a few rust spots on two of the handles. If anyone has any recommendations on how to get the rust off safely, I would really appreciate it. Also, are there any books or other literature out there on owning/restoring/caring for a vintage stove?
Thanks much for any help you can give!
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Post# 28660-4/6/2003-23:31 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Shifting Noises, Pump extra Openings:)
MESSAGE: Would the 3rd port of this type pump also be used on self clean filter washers that have the detergent dispensers that work sort of like a recirculating filter?
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Post# 28661-4/7/2003-00:13 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Shifting Noises, Pump extra Openings:)
MESSAGE: "according to my service books, you must use the 3 port pump as a replacement and cap off the small port because there is alot of lint in the water and it will clog up a 2 port pump prematurely."
The three port pump should replace which pump? The 4 port? And the 2 port pump is meant for kenmores with the "filter plate?" Is that right?
Sorry about all the questions, but I hope one more is okay:-) What is the manifold trap for? When I looked at the restoration pictures of the '57 lady K, it had no manifold trap. Our belt drive did have one. I was just wondering (as I often do) what the trap did? (my guess based on its name was that it trapped larger objects. But there is no need for a trap on any other washer, including DD WP/KM washers.)
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Post# 28662-4/7/2003-01:07 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Shifting Noises, Pump extra Openings:)
MESSAGE: I believe that it was on both the 2-hose and 4-hose Pumps as well, but without seeing one, I don't remember for sure. By the way, "FYI" not to purposely correct you, but the types of Pumps are called 2-Port and 4-Port Pumps, meaning the number of openings, not including the other smaller opening, for the number of hoses attached to the Pump for the need of that particular Model of Washer, which I was talking about in the prior Posting.
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Post# 28663-4/7/2003-03:47 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT:
LOOK!
MESSAGE: AEG Lavamat on German Ebay!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2315759433&category=8419
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Post# 28664-4/7/2003-04:06 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia (reversing emultion)
MESSAGE: Or they pushed the wrong button on their digital camera or did something wrong while editing the picture on the computer.
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Post# 28665-4/7/2003-04:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: LOOK!
MESSAGE: That machine is a beast, 40 years and still running. Now and then you see these machines turn up on eBay. I think I saw this one before, there isn't much interest in them I guess.
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Post# 28666-4/7/2003-05:36 ||| drmitch (West Tennessee)
SUBJECT:
RE: Just got my dream stove and need help!
MESSAGE: Hello Baister and welcome to applianceville.Congrats on winning the Wedgewood. I personally like to attack rust in stages starting with the most gentle that i can think of.On your internal parts I would probably use WD40 and see if it removed anything and then proceed to a fine auto polish (I like the ones for clearcoat finishes, a microfine polish)this also works great on the rest of the range.As for the chrome I would use the polish lightly,then live with it a little while!Sometimes you can live with a few minor rust spots,but if you decide you can`t you can have it replated. Good Luck!
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Post# 28667-4/7/2003-07:20 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia
MESSAGE: I checked out the link and yes it would make a nice addition to my collection, especially since I prefer gas to electric dryers.
I wrote to the seller and questioned the age and condition. Asked her for a history of the machine. Told her from the picture it looked more like a late 1970's 'GM' model.
She is only about 2 hour drive from Grovetown.
Also, the seller has no e-bay history!
Steve 1-18
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Post# 28668-4/7/2003-08:33 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down"
MESSAGE: Hi SactoTeddyBear! YES, I DO vividly remember that old Kenmore bolt-down. My Godparents had one in their sprawling ranch home in Menlo Park back in the 50s. I was mesmorized by it. It had the sud-saver feature and I still remember that ever so pungent, beautiful fragrance of hot water mixed with old White King flakes,(which sadly they don't make any more) clorox and LaFrance bluing! Oh the memories of watching that machine go thru wash after wash all morning long, from white 100 cotton sheets (which I still use) to Uncle Nick's dark work pants and colored socks. Oh what memories.
Before I sign off here, I'd like to ask you a question. A while back I picked up two washers (for nothing ((--::). I picked up a Kenmore serial #S7004701A00 with a gold roto swirl and a Frigidaire DPC Rapid Dry 1000 serial number WCDATN. I can't seem to find out what year the Frigidaire is. Would you have any idea? Somebody said it is a rollermatic. Can't find a soul in my area (upper desert of so. Ca.) to even look at it and I was not blessed with an ounce of mechanical ability. ))--:: So....it sits patiently beside my 1960 cycla-fabric Kenmore which I grew up with which also waits to run again some day.
Best regards to you-Dick S
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Post# 28669-4/7/2003-09:59 ||| COLDSPOT66 (South of Boston, Mass)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Shifting Noises, Pump extra Openings:)
MESSAGE: Hi Kurt,
The 2 port pump was used on washers with a built-in self cleaning filter. Original equipment pumps on washers with filter plate were also 2 port but shaped a little differently than the regular 2 port pump. Rather than have another pump just for washers with the filter plate, you should use the 3 port and seal off the small port not used. Does this make sense? also the manifold was used to trap pins, buttons etc so they don't get into the pump.Because of the shape of the pump impeller, it could not pass thru any hard objects.
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Post# 28670-4/7/2003-12:52 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia (She did email me )
MESSAGE: Hey Guys
Steve I had an e-mail correspondence with the lady and its set up for natural gas. She stated in the email she would have continued to use it but she has now moved into an all electric community.
How easy is it to reset these to propane ?
Thanks
Philippe
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Post# 28671-4/7/2003-13:51 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia (She did email me, set up for propane:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Philippe, this is Steve, did you say in a previous Posting that she has the Owner's Manual? If not, call a Repair Shop or Sales, I believe that you just have to change the "jets" in the Burner for the different amounts of Gas to the Burner for drying the Laundry Loads. I've never had to do that before, but it sounds like it isn't too hard of a job to do for the type of Gas source being used.
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Post# 28672-4/7/2003-14:23 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down"
MESSAGE: Hi - Your Frigidaire washer is a 1968 model year. Have you tried running the machine? If you could give us some symptoms, we could possibly help you get it running again - it's not hard and you might be surprised at what you can accomplish with a little coaching!
Greg
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Post# 28673-4/7/2003-14:30 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
B.D. Kenmore on E-bay
MESSAGE: Have a look..............
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2316386224
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Post# 28674-4/7/2003-16:55 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Shifting Noises, Pump extra Openings:)
MESSAGE: Ah, I got it now. Thanks.
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Post# 28675-4/7/2003-16:59 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: B.D. Kenmore on E-bay (Woder what the reserve is?)
MESSAGE: That is a real beauty a great piece of workman ship?
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Post# 28676-4/7/2003-17:10 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT:
RE: B.D. Kenmore on E-bay (Wonder what the reserve is?)
MESSAGE: In the hooterville swamps of walterboro SC sometimes we Woder things
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Post# 28677-4/7/2003-18:13 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: B.D. Kenmore on E-bay (Wonder what the reserve is?)
MESSAGE: There is only one way to find out.................
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Post# 28678-4/7/2003-23:35 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
Re: New "HE" Detergents:
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Friends, how is everyone doing? I went shopping on Monday afternoon with a Friend here and we went as one of our stops to Wal-Mart. I checked to see if they had any Gain "HE" and Cheer "HE" and they did. I don't know for sure how long they've had it available, but it's there now. The Wisk "HE" is around $4.65 for 80-oz, the Gain is $4.45 for 80-oz, and the Cheer "HE" is $4.85 for 100-oz and Tide "HE" is $6.95 for
100-oz size all liquids. I didn't check the prices for Powder, because I very rarely use Powder any more, I prefer the Liquids, for Detergent, Fabric Softener and Powder for
Pre-Treat like the Clorox-Oxy and Biz, but I do use the spritzer bottles of Shout for some pre-treating too. I also use Liquid Clorox Bleach once in a while in my White Laundry Loads, especially for Towels and White Underware, and I use the Biz or Clorox-Oxy for colors. I also seldome use Dryer Fabric Softener Sheets either any more now. I'm waiting until after payday to purchase any of either the Gain "HE" or Cheer "HE" to try for comparison's, since I do have several bottles of the Wisk "HE" on hand already.
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Post# 28679-4/8/2003-00:09 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents:
MESSAGE: We just use Tide liquid in one of those big dispenser jugs. We also sometimes use Shout for pretreating. We never use bleach. Never use any type of fabric softener anymore. (we used to use those dryer sheets.) The HE detergents are usually used in front loaders right? Since the tumbling action generally makes more suds. (BTW we will never go back to powder detergent.) I remember watching our belt drive Kenmore suds lock:-) I was showing a curious friend the spin cycle. (He is not a washer obsessed person like us. It was just a mystery to him since he had a Maytag and it is difficult to cheat those lid switches.) I told him it was very fast. (even though our particular washer had a pretty slow spin, he would never know though:-) But when I saw it, it was moving incredibly slowly and when I stopped it, a bunch of suds popped up from under the basket. He still thought it was spinning super fast:-)
Ahhh the belt drive stories...
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Post# 28680-4/8/2003-00:54 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Sudz-Lock:)
MESSAGE: HI! KurtDixon, thank you for the reply and memory about the Sudz-Lock in the Belt-Drive Kenmores. I've experienced many of those in the past, before using Liquid Detergent and not being Dumb and adding more Detergent when I wanted to see more Sudz {lol}... For some reason, I didn't do that as much with the Liquids as with the Powders, don't know why either!
The older Solid Tubs {Frigidaire and Hotpoint and others I'm not real sure about} {anyone know any other brands from the past with solid tubs} Washers were great for Oversudzing, because they have the Overflow Wash and Rinse, to get rid of the excess Sudzing, as well as getting rid of the Lint too.
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Post# 28681-4/8/2003-01:06 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
1954 GE Canadian Washer:
MESSAGE: Hi! Guys, this 1954 Canadian GE Washer, looks just like the American-Made Dryer Match that one of my Aunt's and Uncles had. It had a Square Pinkish Push-Button on the center side of the Door, to open the Door with and the same lower Console. Could that be possible to be that similar to each other in style? They had a 1962 "MOL" Kenmore "700" Washer I believe at that time as well. Later on they bought the Early to Mid-70s GE Larger Capacity Washer w/o Mini-Basket, because my Aunt thought that it was a waste of time and not practical for her use. Their Washer had the Straight-Vane Taller Agitator and the oversized Lint Filter that had a recessed center area, instead of being totally flat across the bottom of the Lint collector area of the Filter. It left about only a few inches of view into the Tub to be able to watch the Laundry Washing, with the Filter on the Agitator. "What a Bummer" huh?
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Post# 28682-4/8/2003-08:25 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down"
MESSAGE: Hi Greg-Thanks for answering my question and putting that one to rest in my mind. Now may I ask another one? Would that be a rollermatic design? I've heard that Frigidaire put out different designs over the years--I've heard of unimatic and pulsamatic. I'm really new to all this tech stuff BUT I've been fascinated by old automatics since I was a kid. I think its time I get on the bandwagon as I very much would like to get these old machines I have working.
The guy at the junk shop I found the Frigidaire at said they had sold it to a guy who had used it for a year and then sold it back to the shop as he was moving out of town. They resold it and the new owners brought it back because water would not stop entering the tub. They hooked up a water intlet valve from another brand machine and it wouldn't correct the problem. So...they junked it. The kid said that it agitated, pumped and spun tho'. It's also got two loose feet that don't hold their place well when you screw them.
I have since bought a new water inlet valve for it and that's as far as I've got. It just sits next to the 60 cycla fabric and waits.
I have not plugged it in as I still hang on to an old childhood memory that is plain stupid at this point in my life. I was a small child (about 4 or 5) and totally fasicinated with washers already. My grandfather had warned me not to go near the old Blackstone as it was on the fritz and he needed to check it out.
I was so curious and when no one was around I crept over to it and plugged it in. I'll never forget listening to it making a weird humming noise and going over to it and touching it. I got a good jolt from that machine. I backed away from it and sat down and cried as I just knew I was going to die soon. I've never gotten over that when it comes to problematic appliances and electricity. I've got to work on that as at this point it looks like if I want to get that machine running, it's going to be up to me, myself and I.
Dick
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Post# 28683-4/8/2003-09:04 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia (She did email me )
MESSAGE: Hi Philippe-It's quite easy to convert a natural gas dryer to propane. In fact out here in southern California, the company I buy my propane gas from did the conversion on my Kenmore dryer.
BTW, did I ever thank you for your nice words of encouragement regarding the problems I was having with my poppy red 78 118. Well, if I didn't then, I am now!
It turned into a real bad situation and I ended up losing it. I'm still not over it by a long shot. I'm determined that one of these days I'll find another.
Thank again-Dick
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Post# 28684-4/8/2003-09:26 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (ELCB's)
MESSAGE: Hi Dick
A good idea for your fear of electric shock is to get a gadget that cuts off the power supply instantly if someone gets a shock. I don't remember what they are called in USA, someone mentioned it when I mentioned them before. Here in Australia they are called ELCB's, Earth Leakage Circuit breakers, but what we call "earth" you guys call "ground" so they might be Ground Leakage CB's?? We also call them Safety Switches.
They are now mandatory here in new homes and you can get them fitted to the fuse board or get plug-in ones. I just use a plug in one. They only cost about $20 which is cheap life insurance.
We have 240 volts here and I have had more than my fair share of zaps from that (starting from trying to fix a blown fuse on my mothers stove when I was about 10 - didn't know about turning off the power...) Still kicking so far...
Chris.
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Post# 28685-4/8/2003-12:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (ELCB's)
MESSAGE: Chris, when I was visiting Mike in England, I noticed that all the electrical outlets had their own on/off switches (i.e. you plug something in first, then turn on the power to the outlet) and also that major appliances have power switches too (they call them "mains"). Is that also the case in Australia?
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Post# 28686-4/8/2003-13:10 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (timer timer timer)
MESSAGE: Hi again -
Your Frigidaire WCDATN is indeed a rollermatic design. This design came about in the mid-60's and was used in different forms until the end of GM Frigidaire production.
Since this is a time-fill machine, my guess would be that you might have a timer problem. The timer controls the water valve operation and it sounds like there is a stuck or bad contact inside the timer. This is a relatively simple repair since you can usually find rebuilt timers from Midwest Timer Service for a reasonable price. If you are really uncomfortable working on the machine, you might be able to find a repair person in your area to swap the timers for you if you have the part already on hand. I've put the number for MTS and your timer part number (you'll need this to order) below.
As far as the loose feet go, there should be locking nuts on all four legs that tighten the feet to the cabinet bottom and keep them from working themselves in or out. If these are present, then you may have stripped threads on the legs, which are simply large bolts, so you'll have to investigate to see if it's the feet or the threads on the cabinet frame that are bad.
Sorry to hear of your childhood trauma with electricity, I can understand your aprehension now. Just make sure that before you remove any covers or panels from the machine, that it is unplugged and safe to touch. I too have been zapped a few times, among other minor "appliance related injuries" but I can usually credit my own disregard for safety rules and count my lucky stars... Best of luck with your machines and remember to unplug! ;-)
Greg
Midwest Timer Service 1-800-253-7260
WCDATN timer part # 7534686
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Post# 28687-4/8/2003-13:16 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (GFCI's)
MESSAGE: Yes, these are more and more common now and I believe that many localities require them in their electrical codes for new construction or remodeling if an outlet is to be located within a certain distance of a source of water (sinks, etc.) They are called Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter (GFCI) and come in various forms, outlets, whole house and found on some small appliance plugs and cords as well.
LINK: http://home.howstuffworks.com/question117.htm
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Post# 28688-4/8/2003-17:18 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Sudz-Lock:)
MESSAGE: I know Norge had a solid tub (and an overflow rinse.) as well as the ABC-O-Matic. I think once upon a time Maytags had a solid tub as well. (I could be wrong, but I think I have heard that somewhere?)
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Post# 28689-4/8/2003-17:26 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (ELCB's (GFCI's))
MESSAGE: AHH, you are talking about a GFCI (Ground Fault Circuit Interupt.) The "ground fault" would be the "earth leakage" you were talking about. It sounds like they serve the same perpose. (I think GFCIs are required to go into places that are subject to water. Such as bathrooms and kitchens and such.) I popped one of them when I was filling a water bed and the hose popped off the tap. Then the water sprayed all over the GFCI plug in. I have gotton shocked once, by our Maytag Dryer. I was cleaning it out but of course forgot to unplug it. (what an idiot:-) I touched the drum light connectors and got a zap up my right arm and out the left (into the front panel which was resting on the washer.) No harm done except for more laundry and a yell:-)
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Post# 28690-4/8/2003-19:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Sudz-Lock:)
MESSAGE: You're correct Kurt, the Maytag automatics before 1958 had solid tubs. They look like perforated tubs to the naked eye, but they are a solid tub with a perforated liner fastened thereon (you can see the bolts inside the tub on this type of washer).
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Post# 28691-4/8/2003-19:30 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Sudz-Lock:)
MESSAGE: Oh yeah. I have seen one of those tubs. (I didn't know maytag was the brand with that type of tub.) What was the point of that? It seems easier to have just an inner and outer tub. Where the inner tub is either perforated (like washers these days.) Or have a row of holes at the top of the inner tub. (like some older washers such as norges.)
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Post# 28692-4/8/2003-20:10 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Sudz-Lock:)
MESSAGE: I'm not sure Kurt, each manufacturer of course thought their way of doing it was the right way. I think Maytag must have thought the the undesirable stuff would go through the holes and away from the clothes during the wash, then be thrown up and over at the end. Whether this was effective or not, I'm not sure.
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Post# 28693-4/8/2003-22:00 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Sudz-Lock:)
MESSAGE: I see. Well now most manufacturers have that self cleaning filter plate under the inner tub. (maytag just changed a few years ago.) that way, the lint and heavy sand and dirt gets churned down to the bottom and get stuck in the filter. Then the draining and spinning basket flushes it away. That is a good system, I think. I have never actually watched a spin-drain in action. Since I was born, neutral drains are what I have seen. They aren't that boring. The water level goes down so fast. And I like the sound during neutral drain. The splashing in the drain. The hum of the pump. (compared to how fast the basket fills.) But I might like spin-drains more, I just haven't seen one. (I might talk my friend into letting me watch his Maytag spin drain:-) Although I have watched the videos from this site. (of the norge and the abc and the whirlpool combo.) But I think it would be different to be right there.
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Post# 28694-4/8/2003-22:22 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
What goes up and down?
MESSAGE: And it's on sale on eBay?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2316477828&category=20714
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Post# 28695-4/8/2003-22:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: What goes up and down?
MESSAGE: You beat me to it! I was just going to point that out. It is in St. Louis. I've never seen this model before. It sort of looks like a coin-op machine with a timer rather than a coin box. It is very cool and in very nice shape!
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Post# 28696-4/8/2003-23:00 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Maytag Spin-Drain:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Kurt, I don't remember if anyone has mentioned this before, but with the older Maytag Washers that have the Safety Button on the rear area of the Tub opening, you can wedge a Quarter between the Button and the Lid protrusion that hits against the Button to allow the Lid to be opened at least
part-way to look inside during all of the Actions, or you can
bi-pass the Switch with a wire connector and have the Washer just operate all the time that the Lid is open, but naturally always be careful of the Spinning Tub and put the Switch back the way it was for Safety's Sake. I have done that with a small sleeve and male connections inside the sleeve that I bought at a Hardware Store a long time ago, but I don't see them any more. Each side of the Washers Safety Switchs Wires connect respectively through the ends of the tubing and connect to the male connector prongs. You could probably devise something similar with a small length of tubing and some male connector set inside the tubing, allow Insulating of the connectors, like mine has with the tube it sets in. It was a great idea of it's time, especially after working on a Washer and wanting to watch it operating to make sure everything is working as it is supposed to be.
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Post# 28697-4/8/2003-23:11 ||| laundromat (florida)
SUBJECT:
1966 frigidaire jet action washer(Deluxe)
MESSAGE: FRIGIDAIRE Jet action Deluxe washer 2 speed solid 12 pound capacity tub in mint condition must go to musseum!!!!!!item #2316477828
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Post# 28698-4/8/2003-23:37 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Maytag Spin-Drain:)
MESSAGE: Actually even the newest maytags have the lid switch button at the back. (with exception of Neptunes for obvious reasons.) At my friend's I used my pinky to push the button. It kind of hurt though:-( The quarter sounds like a much better idea. I have never tried to jump a lid switch. (no reason to.) I like Maytag's lid hinges though (those little rubber balls:-)
Has anyone noticed how much a washer shakes on wood floors during spin? Our belt drive kenmore shook none. (not even any vibrations.) But our belt drive does vibrate and the vibrations transfer through the floor to the dryer next to it. It is a very weird site. (here is a washer vibrating and a dryer right next to it shaking the same way:-) It must just be the different suspensions.
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Post# 28699-4/8/2003-23:55 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Maytag Spin-Drain:)
MESSAGE: Kurt, make sure that the machine is properly leveled, and pull up the back end so the back two feet can adjust themselves into place. That might help some. The direct drive machines actually balance pretty well and do fine in basements and concrete and etc. but they're a bit touchier vibration-wise on other types of floors.
I don't know if you even know or not, but just out of curiosity do you know how you ended up with a Maytag dryer?
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Post# 28700-4/9/2003-00:15 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Maytag Spin-Drain:)
MESSAGE: I have made sure the washer is nice and level. It doesn't actually SHAKE. The cabinet just vibrates. (the feet stay firmly on the ground.) But since the dryer starts vibrating too, it seems like the washer is shaking badly.
BTW, I will go through the story of how we ended with the current washer and dryer. At our old house (about 15 years ago before this house was build and before I was born.) My family had a pair of very old GEs that were "passed down" from my grandma. A couple days before I was born, my dad was doing the laundry. Something drastic happened with the GE washer (this is still at our old house.) And it leaked tons of water. (probably the tub boot or something.) This is a couple days before I was born, so you can imagine my mom:-) She was a little "distracted" from a broken washer. She just told my dad to make sure there was a working washer when I was there. My dad went to sears and they gave him the belt drive that we had. Okay then we moved to our new house with the brand new belt drive and the very old GE dryer. Then for about 6 years, we used the belt drive and the GE. Then the GE was getting pretty worn out and my mom hated the timed dry (no auto dry on this GE beast) so my parents decided to get a new dryer. I don't know the exacts of how they decided on a Maytag, but I am happy they did. Then you know how we got the direct drive. (belt drive got worn out, blah blah.)
I may have went to more detail than you wanted:-) I do that sometimes.
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Post# 28701-4/9/2003-00:31 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Maytag Spin-Drain:)
MESSAGE: That's ok Kurt I like stories, and I tend to write them sometimes too! :-) I've never actually owned a Maytag dryer, but have always been pleased with the performance of those I've used.
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Post# 28702-4/9/2003-02:05 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Maytag Spin-Drain:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Kurt, I'm not tring to purposely correct you, but do you mean your Direct-Drive Kenmore Washer as the newer one that Vibrates the Wood Floor? I've never had a Washer for a long time on a Wood Floor. My past house before this one was on a Concrete Slab Flooring and this house has the Washer and Dryer in the Garage, which I don't like. I certainly know from Freinds experiance of what happens if the Washer isn't properly leveled and the Legs all even on the ground, they take a "Walk" all around the Floor. I wish I had a nice inside Laundry Room for my regular use Machines and my Garage for my workshop and play Machines. I guess we can't always have everything we want, can we at times?
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Post# 28703-4/9/2003-02:13 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Maytag Spin-Drain:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Kurt and Scott, join the crowd. In think that I get a little carried away too, but hope that no one really minds. I love the Drama of the Stories being shared. I think it makes everything sound more exciting than just saying we bought a new Washer or Dryer to replace our old one, "so big deal"...Please as far as I'm concerned, keep up the great stories and I will too and other info about your memories of growing up. Wait until your my age though and then you will really have a lot of great stories then {lol}...My best to you both and everyone else in the Club too, even any Ol' "Fuddy-Duddies" {LMAO}...
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Post# 28704-4/9/2003-04:37 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
Boston wash-in???
MESSAGE: There was supposed to be a Boston wash-in this weekend, but I haven't read anything about it here yet. Don't you guys think that is rather odd? I was expecting a full report with a lot of pictures ofcourse, seems to me they are hiding something from us. Or perhaps they are still washing and drying, perhaps they have a bulk of laundry and heaps of suds. Anyone noticed a basement with suds coming out of it somewhere in the Boston area?
Suspicious somewhere in Europe
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Post# 28705-4/9/2003-07:07 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Boston wash-in???
MESSAGE: Luigi, I agree. I'd emailed Jetcone last week to ask for a phone number so I could call the guys and say hi while they were there. Didn't hear anything from Jetcone. I also emailed CalypsoBruce on Sunday to seee how it went, didn't hear from him either. I guess theya re all still in the basement in a suds lock. Poor Al.
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Post# 28706-4/9/2003-09:28 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Shaking)
MESSAGE: I live in a trailer with a wood floor and YES all washers trasmit vibrations through the floor. I had a old direct drive whirlpool that literally danced. It had a suspension problem along with being on a wood floor.
I now have a Kenmore front-loader that vibrates alot during part of the acceleration to 1000rpm.
So yeah, if you're in a mobile home, trailer or house with a wooden floor. Expect some good vibrations.
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Post# 28707-4/9/2003-09:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: What goes up and down?
MESSAGE: I'll go for it, but not for $600!!!
-ph
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Post# 28708-4/9/2003-10:29 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT:
RE: What goes up and down?
MESSAGE: Right now the current bid is $15.51...do you mean $600 for shipping charges? I might be able to pick it up so I thought I might go for it...
Jim
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Post# 28709-4/9/2003-12:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: What goes up and down?
MESSAGE: No, I mean bidding $600 or more for the machine. If it turns into a bidding war, I'll dropping out early. I'll wait and see how the bidding goes and if I bid it will be later in the process, like the day before. I would like someone in the club to get it, tho'...
-ph
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Post# 28710-4/9/2003-13:04 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT:
Cottonwood Appliances
MESSAGE: Cottonwood appliances in Cottonwood, Alabama just advertised on our website. I called and spoke to the owner who says he just bought a warehouse full of old appliances. I have been looking for an early 1950's vintage Thor Automagic washer. He said he had one in mint condition that he was selling for $5,750.00 that he already received a $1,000.00 deposit on.
Henry said that he had other Thors there and would let me know as he went through the machines in the warehouse.
What do you think??????
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Post# 28711-4/9/2003-13:05 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT:
HE Detergents
MESSAGE: I just bought a bottle of Tide HE....I will try it later today in my Westinghouse slant front.
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Post# 28712-4/9/2003-15:43 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Maytag Spin-Drain:)
MESSAGE: Hi
I agree with the gentleman from Sacro-I too enjoy the stories from our younger days-this common interest we share isnt just the machines,it is our memories and experiences too.One of mine is the smell of wash day at grandmas basement.Bleach,Oxydol....
Tom
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Post# 28713-4/9/2003-16:36 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Thanks for the Invite(Maytag Spin-Drain:))
MESSAGE: Thanks SactoTeddyBear for the reassurance. I give out long winded anecdotes from past memories because they are about the most valuable thing I can contribute here. I am not that mechanically minded after all.
And who knows? Mebbe it's a way to vent. From the time we were all tots, if we got excited about a household appliance, we cant talk to our friends, our family, or their friends. Most of them just arent interested. You guys are the only ones who will listen.
I also get a kick out of the "Drama of the Stories being shared", so guys, keep em coming. For the sake of the reasons above, and because it stirs a fire in me, too, I personally dont mind if they run on and on. (o:`,
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Post# 28714-4/9/2003-16:46 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT:
Jet Cone Washer
MESSAGE: Can anyone tell me which year they changed the agitator in the jet cone machines the newer agitator. I am looking for a jet cone washing machine & am not sure which year I am looking for. I prefer the older style with the ( I think ) there was three rings in it. Anything you could tell me would be greatly appreciated. Michael
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Post# 28715-4/9/2003-17:26 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Oxydol)
MESSAGE: Ah! Oxydol!! Last year when I stayed with Jon Charles he gave me a box of Oxydol. I took a few pictures of my Miele doing a load of bathrugs with Oxydol. In the beginning the suds weren't that bad, but in the end as you can see in the second picture the whole drum was foamed up. It didn't come out of the detergent drawer yet, but it was pretty close. I got a sudslock too ofcourse, but a little fabric softener got rid of that.
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/Washing&.dnm=Oxydol-1.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 28716-4/9/2003-17:31 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Maytag Spin-Drain:)
MESSAGE: Maytag dryers are my favorites.
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Post# 28717-4/9/2003-17:33 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Maytag Spin-Drain:)
MESSAGE: Well our laundry room is on main level and the floor is linoleum with some sort of a subfloor. The subfloor is just stapled to the main plywood floor so the subfloor vibrates and transmits this to the dryer. I was just curious as to why our belt drive didn't so the same.
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Post# 28718-4/9/2003-17:44 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
Smell of washday at grandma's
MESSAGE: I have that memory too. However mine is somewhat more recent. (about 7 years or so ago.) The same grandma that gave my parents the old GEs, she bought a pair of Maytags after giving away the GEs. I used to stay over at her house all the time. (She lived in a super nice condominium that had a pool!) She also spoiled me lots. I used to vacuum when I was there. (Then I got the very same vacuum when she passed away just a year ago. My vacuum obsession goes WAY back.) And she would do the laundry on weekends (when I was there.) I always watched her fill up the maytag with detergent, then clothes, then fabric softener (didn't dilute it.) then the bleach (for white loads.) The smell was great. (I smelt the fabric softener the most, I can't believe she didn't bung up the maytag somehow, she used so much fabric softener!)
I also like the smell of dryer exaust (electric dryer exaust, I don't like sniffing fumes from a gas dryer:-) Just that hot "lint" smell. It is a weird fascination no doubt.
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Post# 28719-4/9/2003-18:03 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Maytag Spin-Drain: (Frigidaire Jetcone washer on ebay))
MESSAGE: I am also a fan of Maytag dryers. The Neptune models in particular. I have a MDE3000 non-digital and It is built like a tank. Solid thud when you close the door. Quick drying with a tough-a-nails porcelain top. This one's destine for the Classic Appliances Museum of the future.
Also, I bid on the Frigidaire Jetcone washer up on ebay, but it looks like I am gonna have to let this one go. Just too costly to bring way down here to Fort Lauderdale.
-ALex
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Post# 28720-4/9/2003-18:15 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Maytag Spin-Drain: (Frigidaire Jetcone washer on ebay))
MESSAGE: I like maytag dryers because they are durable and because of the design. There are only a couple parts that wear out (the rear rollers, idler pulley and sometimes the blower gets loose.) I like the older models. (Like about 5 years and back, before the "L shaped door" models, I don't know why.) Second in line would be whirlpool/kenmore "lint filter on top" models.
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Post# 28721-4/9/2003-19:05 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (BD stability)
MESSAGE: The Belt drive Kenmores were alot heavier than the direct drive Kenmores. They spun a little slower and had a better suspension system. Correct me if I'm wrong. It's basically "suspended" in air with a snubber at the top and I think a few other ones to cancel some of the vibration.
Maybe an expert can 'splain it better.
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Post# 28722-4/9/2003-19:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter)
MESSAGE: That's my #1 style of dryer. It's "classic" and it still in production. Not much has changed there from looking in the drum. The newer King size dryers have the filter in the door. The tub is HUGE and it has this big huge door that drops down. It's awesome!
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Post# 28723-4/9/2003-19:32 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Thanks for the Invite(Maytag Spin-Drain:))
MESSAGE: Hey! I guess we told them, huh? Thanks for the reply, I'm not trying to hurt anyones feelings or "Stepping on Toes" I just wanted everyone to know on the Club Site that some of us get a "Little More Dramatic" in telling about our past experiences and love to share our things like our favorite Smells of Detergent or Bleach with others in the best way that we are able to do so. Let's really make this Site "Rock-N-Roll" with memories and thoughts about everything pertaining to Laundry and Appliance Memories of the "Good Ol' Days" that we can keep interest going about. We are Blessed to have these Machines of the Past and having them operating or almost ready to operate and be our way of remembering when they were new and certainly much neater than some of the "New-Fangled" ones that they make these days. Let's hear it for the "Good Ol' Days" of Yesteryear...Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 28724-4/9/2003-20:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jet Cone Washer
MESSAGE: Hi Mike- Some time ago, Robert compiled a picture guide to all of the solid bakset Frigidaire agitators that were used through the years. I couldn't find it in the links, but I had it on my computer so TA DA!! Here it is:
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Frigidaire+1950+WO65+%26+TR60+Filtrator&.src=ph&.dnm=Agitators.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Frigidaire%2b1950%2bWO65%2b%2526%2bTR60%2bFiltrator%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28725-4/9/2003-20:32 ||| Sethie (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
Turbodrum / HydroWash - LG/GE?
MESSAGE: Have any of you here seen the newest GE 'Harmony' washers/dryers shown on line recently. They are to be released this June supposedly. While they are not of the true context of 'Applianceville' posts.. they do seem 'cutting edge'and worth your comments. My only concern with these units so far is that whether its called 'Turbodrum' (as in LG) or Harmony 'HydroWash' (as in GE) the wash action is simply centrafusion. It apparently washes using centrifugal force while flowing consentrated solutions over and thus 'through' the clothing. This reminds me of the initial stages of the 'catalyst action' performed in the Whirlpools/Kenmores. What are your thoughts on this type of wash action sans agitation or friction of any kind for that matter? Do you think this concept can thoroughly clean ground in soils and stains? Thanks for your thoughts....Seth
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Post# 28726-4/9/2003-20:44 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Turbodrum / HydroWash - LG/GE?
MESSAGE: I actually want to see this in action. Sounds like fun. And it's a throwback to the days when washer manufacturers were trying to come out with something different than the normal back=and=forth agitation.
Back then it was Frigidaire's up and down agitator, ABC/Kelvinator's centric action (agitator orbits in the center like a mixer), to name a few.
Even frontloading is basically the same principle as 60 years ago. They just got electronics and fast spins now.
So Calypso washers and this Turbodrum ain't too far away from the old days of trying to be different.
The current GE toploaders are horrible and this would be cool to have something new in the laundry world.
I wonder how fast these GE's are gonna spin.
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Post# 28727-4/9/2003-20:56 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jet Cone Washer (Greg and Robert - Thanks! )
MESSAGE: Greg,
Thanks so much for that link to that photo. That was way too cool!
I love the first one. Actually, I liked all of them.
Does Robert actually have all of these?
Thanks once again!
Brent
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Post# 28728-4/9/2003-21:10 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
Re: It's Offical Now:
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Friend's, it is offical now, I just got my
"Automatic Laundry Queen" Newton, Iowa Decal Sticker, on April 9, "Y2K-3" that I won Bidding on E-Bay for purchase...
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Post# 28729-4/9/2003-21:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Turbodrum / HydroWash - LG/GE?
MESSAGE: Jason, the Harmony washers are supposed to spin at 1000 rpms!!! (Just like a Frigidaire Rapidry)!!!
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Post# 28730-4/9/2003-22:10 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: It's Offical Now:
MESSAGE: Congrats to you! (-:
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Post# 28731-4/9/2003-22:10 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: It's Offical Now:
MESSAGE: Congrats to you! (-:
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Post# 28732-4/9/2003-22:49 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT:
RE: Turbodrum / HydroWash - LG/GE? (new ge)
MESSAGE: pictures yet, windows??? reversing drums.. hmmmm
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Post# 28733-4/9/2003-23:05 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM)
MESSAGE: I think those new style WP, KM dryers aren't as good as the tried and tested ones. The new design is similar to Maytag's design. However, for some reason, the insides of those new style WP dryers collect A LOT of lint. You should see this picture.
Go to the bottom of this page and click on "picture of the dryer" That is the new style "lint filter in front of door" WP dryers. The pic will explain the rest. They are still fairly good dryers. (providing that the house dryer duct is clean and open.) But I don't think the design is as good as the other kind.
LINK: http://www.applianceaid.com/whirlpool-dryers.html
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Post# 28734-4/9/2003-23:08 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jet Cone Washer
MESSAGE: Wow! Thanks for the link. Wonderful stuff! :-)
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Post# 28735-4/9/2003-23:10 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Turbodrum / HydroWash - LG/GE? (Horrible GEs)
MESSAGE: I know what you mean. GE's current style of washer is very crappy. Where did you find the info about GE's new washer? I want to see this newest style. (the one due in june.)
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Post# 28736-4/9/2003-23:18 ||| Sethie (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT:
RE: Turbodrum / HydroWash - LG/GE? (GE's Profile Harmony )
MESSAGE: You can view this yet to be released communicating laundry pair called the Profile Harmony on GE's appliance website: geappliances.com....go to the bottom of the page and click on the 'press-room' link.
Seth
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Post# 28737-4/9/2003-23:27 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM)
MESSAGE: I will say though Kurt they are more convenient (the drum is mounted higher up) and I definitely don't miss the top lint screen, though I'd certainly go for the original kind if I got my hands on a good vintage Sears dryer!
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Post# 28738-4/9/2003-23:30 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM)
MESSAGE: Wow, that picture is really something! It's easy to get in that front end, so I will have to check the lint accumulation regularly! We have a very short, and straight vent run made of aluminum, so that's a good thing. I wouldn't allow that vinyl stuff in my house.
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Post# 28739-4/9/2003-23:43 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM)
MESSAGE: Well they aren't bad dryers. I just think the other type was better, thats all. And if your vent is clean, then there probably isn't anything to worry about.
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Post# 28740-4/9/2003-23:54 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM)
MESSAGE: Well our house has a very long vent, lots of elbows and about a 5 foot run of plastic vent. There isn't much I can do though. I make sure it is as clean as possible. There is no way to shorten the vent. (we have two furnaces so the dryer duct is already in a very cramped spot.) But like I said, I am only 15, the first time, ever that the vent was cleaned, was about 6 months ago. (by me) You should have seen the lint in the vent. The plastic part alone was at least 3/4 full of lint and the amount that I pulled out could have filled a couple 4 litre milk jugs. And then I pulled off the metal parts and cleaned those. But there was one very long run, I couldn't take it down (without taking apart the furnace's ducts) So I took a long garden hose, and taped a big towel to one end. I fed the other end through to the other side and pulled the towel through the duct. There was another 8 litres of lint (at least.) Then I turned the dryer on air fluff without the duct connected and a bunch of black ash flew into the drum. (this ash must have been sitting in the element canister since the airflow was so poor.) Then I reconnected the duct and ran the dryer on air fluff for an hour. And during that hour, some more chunks of lint flew out the cover at the outside. If that isn't the worst thing you can do to a dryer (running it for years with a clogged vent), I don't know what is. (I imagine the duct was nicely clogged from when the Maytag was new, then it was used for 8 years with the poor airflow and it still works perfectly, somehow. I can't believe the element didn't burn out. I am sure the high limit was cycling for years.)
So now I am very carfully watching the dryer duct. I make sure it is clean every couple months. (plus the dryer works so much better now.) But when I opened the dryer up to clean it, there wasn't much to clean. Just some sand and a light layer of dust. (however the lint screen housing was clogged up like the duct.)
I won't let something like that happen again!
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Post# 28741-4/10/2003-00:08 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM)
MESSAGE: I must agree with you Scott, it is easier to take clothes out of the dryer since it is mounted high in the cabinet and I can say that I do not miss the top mounted lint screen.
Even though the top mounted lint filter was a great convenience during the whole existence of WhirlMore product line, IMHO, cross ventilating dries a few minuets faster than rear bulkhead exhaust.
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Post# 28742-4/10/2003-00:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM)
MESSAGE: A clean vent is absolutely imperative to any air-flow dryer's performance. If you have a clogged or very poor vent system, and a big helping of neglect, the inside of any dryer would look like the one pictured - that isn't indicative of design problems in a particular brand. That WP dryer is a very well built machine, but if you plug it's vent, it becomes a giant lint trap as there is nowhere else for the lint to go. I've seen several similar fires or firetrap conditions in the older style WP, GE, WCI and Norge dryers too. My 55 Frigidaire Filtrator dryer looked like a huge lint ball when I opened it up - a miracle it hadn't burst into flames already.
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Post# 28743-4/10/2003-01:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM)
MESSAGE: Good for you Kurt. I'm glad the clogged line didn't cause any dangerous situations for your family, and it's great that you do so much to help out around the house.
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Post# 28744-4/10/2003-01:45 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM)
MESSAGE: Greetings, Kurt.
I looked at your App'ville profile briefly a few days ago and noticed your birthdate, but I didn't do the math in my head at the time, and it just didn't strike me that you are 15. How very wonderful that you found this group at your young-ish age! -- and the same goes for Jamie, who had a blast at the Beltsville convention.
Sounds like you're quite resourceful and mechanically inclined. Be sure to take some time, if you haven't already, to check out all material in the Museum wing, the video clips and vintage commercials, and the Member Links to their photo albums. It's all fun, fun, fun . . . plus there's the educational and historical value!
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Post# 28745-4/10/2003-01:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM)
MESSAGE: When they went to the one-piece filter (rather than the flip door you opened to get the filter beneath) that did seal a bit better, but the dust still went a flyin' when you pulled that thing out.
I like the front mounted screen as designed in this dryer (and similar in the newer Maytags like Kirk's family has). Didn't like the GE "open trough" setup though where you could potentially drag your clothes through the lint, and that piece on the door would always have lint hanging off it. Good, well-made dryers otherwise though.
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Post# 28746-4/10/2003-01:47 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT:
PotD
MESSAGE: There's the Kenmore 800 again!
Jason . . . . ohhhhh, Jason . . . . . .
:-)
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Post# 28747-4/10/2003-02:47 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM)
MESSAGE: Great Job Kurt, you and your Family were real lucky that the Dryer didn't catch on Fire long ago. I've seen places here around various parts of town that had the Dryer on the Driveway, after it had caught on fire and burned either the Garage part-way or a Laundry Room, because of the very same thing of not checking the Lint Filter after each use and not inspecting the Venting System often enough, or not replacing the Plastic Flex-Tubing, to bring it up to code. Some people think that if they have a smaller load that they will clean the Lint out after the next load, but they don't realize that it just blocks the rest of the Lint Filter and doesn't allow the Lint Filter to take the rest of the Lint from the following Load of Laundry, especially if it is Heavy items like Towels, which naturally are going to be real full of lint. Yes, I've done it again, giving my opinion and my
"life story too."
Keep up the good work, your an A+A+A+A+A+A+A+A+A+ for
"Job Well Done" Kurt, in my Book...
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Post# 28748-4/10/2003-04:11 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home (Whirlpool convertible washers)
MESSAGE: I've found a few of these out on Nature strips, and I always rescue them, fix them, and loan/give them to friends who live in apartments but hate going to laundrymats or waiting for machines in laundry rooms. Those portable machines are EXPENSIVE, much more than even some full size automatics.
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Post# 28749-4/10/2003-04:30 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home (the little tub)
MESSAGE: I imagine they wanted to make the machine even smaller. I bought one new in the 70's and it was quite heavy to roll around, so maybe weight has domwthing to do with it, also.
Since I couldn't afford to buy a matching dryer at the time from Sears, I mated the little KM with a compact portable Wards Signature dryer. One of the advantages I noticed with the Wards is that it was convertible to run on 220 volts like a full-sized dryer by simply switching wires on terminals and replacing the 110 volt power cord with a standard electric dryer cord.
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Post# 28750-4/10/2003-04:49 ||| Rabindranath (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT:
Crosley/Avco Metal (Steel I Think) Kitchen Cabinets
MESSAGE: CROSLEY/AVCO KITCHEN CABINETS: A friend of mine here in Seattle, WA lives in a early 1960's appartment building. His kitchen (as well as, I am told all of the other kitchen's in his building) is outfited with the most beautiful streamlined metal kitchen cabinets that are obviously custom built to fit exactly into the space. The cabinets appear to be made (or at least styled) in the late 30's or early 40's, as they are very deco/streamlined looking. Affixed to the inside of the cabinets in a name plate stating "Crosley Kitchen Cabinets, a division of AVCO Manufacturing Corp., Cincinnati, OH, Model #CW3030". I am looking for any information on these cabinets. If anyone can help, please let me know. Thank You - Rabindranath Darling - streamline68@hotmail.com
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Post# 28751-4/10/2003-05:47 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jet Cone Washer (Thanks for the Jet Cone info.)
MESSAGE: Thanks Gansky1 for the info. I now know I am looking for a machine from before 1964. They are so cool. Wish me luck Michael
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Post# 28752-4/10/2003-06:19 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Sister's New Tappan ('65 LadyK)
MESSAGE: First time I've seen a detergent cup the same color as the agitator. All the ones I've seen before were translucent white and the scrubber part was black.
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Post# 28753-4/10/2003-06:34 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Another Coppertone is home (Whirlpool convertible washers)
MESSAGE: You are right!
The cabinet gotten smaller and they are still over priced!
By now the price should be in the $200.00 range and if anybody is in their right mind would buy a 24inch BOL with casters to roll to the sink to do a slightly larger load at a smaller price tag compare to what they want for those smaller unit!
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Post# 28754-4/10/2003-06:37 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (3 speed motors)
MESSAGE: Neither, the motor itself is 3 speed through the use of different windings.
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Post# 28755-4/10/2003-07:02 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wow (wig wag clickety click)
MESSAGE: Somewhere along in the 60's, WP put plastic sleeves inside the spin and agitate solenoids on the wig-wag. This silenced the clickety-click sound of the metal solenoid plungers on the wig wag as they would hit the side of the formerly unlined solenoids.
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Post# 28756-4/10/2003-07:08 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Re: Green Acres Appliances:)
MESSAGE: Maytag made washer/dryer combos?!
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Post# 28757-4/10/2003-07:17 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: PICTURES OF THE LADY K's.....Finally (Kenmore sounds)
MESSAGE: Before Kenmore went to pumping water through lint filters, the pump was physically disengaged from the belt during agitation.
This really contributed to pump life since so many of the Kenmores I've rescued from the street had nothing worse wrong with them than seized pumps. That's been the most common problem with my 1978 LadyK. It's on it's 6th pump.
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Post# 28758-4/10/2003-07:27 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: PotD (K800)
MESSAGE: I know, what a great way to wake up and see that the first thing. I have this pic in computer so I can see it anytime. It's just cool when it pops up.
That's the one I'm looking for.
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Post# 28759-4/10/2003-07:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: PotD (K800)
MESSAGE: and your color preference is...?? ;-)
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Post# 28760-4/10/2003-07:43 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia (Rare gas Frigidaire dryer)
MESSAGE: I think a 1-18 gas dryer might not be as rare as you think. Which type of dryer people purchase depends on what kind of hookup is available in their house. Electric dryers usually cost more to run (though less to purchase)than gas dryers, so if people have a choice, gas dryers usually win. Very few houses I've seen give you a choice of electric or gas hookup (though I have seen it).
Here in Los Angeles, you'd be hard-pressed to find an electric dryer since natural gas is cheap and most houses are not equipped for electric dryers. Virtually everyone I see in people's homes or tossed out on the lawn are gas.
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Post# 28761-4/10/2003-07:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Crosley/Avco Metal (Steel I Think) Kitchen Cabinets (Set Your Heart on Crosley)
MESSAGE: Hi - we were discussing these a short while ago, here's a picture from a 1954 Crosley brochure that I have - only one page though. Do the cabinets look similar to the ones pictured with the slanted drawers? The Avco Corp. owned the Crosley name as well as the Bendix name which was famous for the first automatic washer.
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Post# 28762-4/10/2003-07:46 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT:
RE: Crosley/Avco Metal (Steel I Think) Kitchen Cabinets (Set Your Heart on Crosley)
MESSAGE: sorry, here's the link to the picture
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Ads+Articles+Brochures&.dnm=Crosley+Kitchens.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 28763-4/10/2003-07:52 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (timer timer timer)
MESSAGE: Greg, Thanks for explaining a couple of things to me. I didn't realize that it was a time-fill for one thing. I remember a lot of machines I was around in the 50's were time-fill but I thought they were all gone by at least the early 60's. I've been so used to Kenmores most of my life.
I've got my work cut out for me in getting this baby rollin' and I really want to.
Thanks also for the link.
Dick S.
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Post# 28764-4/10/2003-07:57 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Shifting Noises, Pump extra Openings:)
MESSAGE: No, those are 4 port pumps. The pump actually consists of two pumps mounted next to each other using one shaft. The upper pump is the usual 2 port with the flapper valve that changes the pump from recirculate through the filter (not the under agitater type, but the tub-mounted or cabinet mounted type). The second pump sucks water from the bottom of the drain manifold and sends it through the detergent/fabric softener at the right times (the bleach dispenser is a gravity feed controlled by a solenoid). There is a solenoid controlled valve in the line to the dispenser from the secondary pump that shuts off the flow to the dispenser after about 2 minutes of agitation in the wash cycle. Additionally, there is a solenoid in the dispenser that prevents water from flowing through the fabric softener portion of the dispenser during the wash portion of the cycle.
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Post# 28765-4/10/2003-08:03 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia (Propane switchover)
MESSAGE: There's a kit you can by to switch from natural to Propane gas. It mainly consists of disabling the natural gas pressure regulator (Propane is regulated at the tank), changing the burner orifice, and labeling that shows it's been switched.
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Post# 28766-4/10/2003-08:12 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (ELCB's)
MESSAGE: Here they're called GFI's (Ground Fault Interrupters) and they are only required in bathrooms, kitchens, and for outdoor circuits. You can get them as replacements for regular outlets and set them up to protect regular outlets downstream from them, or buy circuit breaks that incorporate the technology and install them in breaker panel
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Post# 28767-4/10/2003-08:30 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (switched power outlets)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott
Yes, here in Aus all power outlets are switched. We have single and double outlets, from memory in USA all outlets are dual unswitched. We call them "power points".
In UK I understand the plugs actually have fuses built into them, we don't have that here. A recent change of code here is that plugs either have to be moulded into the cord as one assembly, or if openable/re-wirable type, the cover must be of clear plastic so you can see inside that the connections are OK. Also for appliances used in industry (eg building trade, restaurant kitchens) the cords and any extensions have to be checked for safety by an electrician every six months and a dated tag certifying safety attached. ( A few years ago a McDonalds junior employee was electrocuted when cleaning behind an electric grill due to touching a cord which had chafed through.)
Chris.
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Post# 28768-4/10/2003-08:34 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jet Cone Washer (Greg and Robert - Thanks! )
MESSAGE: Hi Brent, yes I do have all those agitators as I took the pictures myself. I will add the Pulsamatic and 1/18 Agitators to this poster at some point.
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Post# 28769-4/10/2003-08:38 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (timed fill)
MESSAGE: I know what you mean, I was used to metered fill in virtually every machine by the 60's and wondered why Frigidaire, at least on some models, was still time fill at that late date.
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Post# 28770-4/10/2003-08:39 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (ELCB's (GFCI's))
MESSAGE: OOOCH! That I believe is the most potentially fatal type of shock - in one arm and out the other. Most likely that heart muscle will get affected ...
I read once in an old TV repair book that if you are silly enough to work on a circuit "live" without using an isolating transformer, at lest keep one hand in your pocket so that you minimize the chance of an "across the body" shock.
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Post# 28771-4/10/2003-08:44 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (switched power outlets)
MESSAGE: Here in the US, most outlets are dual, but single ones are still available if you really want one, other wise you see them only in very old houses (my Grandmother's house built in the Teens had one single type outlet mounted in the floor per room). As for switching, a common thing is to have a switched outlet controlled by a wall switch in some rooms to plug table lamps into as wall and ceiling mounted lights have gone out of fashion.
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Post# 28772-4/10/2003-09:43 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jet Cone Washer (Greg and Robert - Thanks! I thought they were pics from Frigidaire.)
MESSAGE: The pictures were so good, I actually thought that they were various pictures from Frigidaire.
Brent
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Post# 28773-4/10/2003-10:13 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Jet Cone Washer (Pulsamatic pulsators)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Were there 3 Pulsamatic agitators? The original "nubby" one, a black one, and the last gray one?
-ph
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Post# 28774-4/10/2003-11:22 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (GFI's)
MESSAGE: Overhere these Ground Fault Interrupters are mandatory for the whole house since 1976 (I believe) for all new installations. Exception are some major appliances like washers that can leak a little more than the safety tolerance. There aren't a lot installations left that don't have one.
Louis
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Post# 28775-4/10/2003-11:33 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (switched power outlets)
MESSAGE: Overhere outlets don't have a switch, most of them are dual, but single ones are available. The outlets in my house are built-up instead of built-in ones, because most of them were added when the apartemen was renovated in the eighties and I have stone walls.
I love the system of having several outlets on one switch for table lamps, we never had that. In the past I achieved that a few times by connecting all the table lamps to the central to the central point in the ceiling.
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Post# 28776-4/10/2003-11:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Universal Gas Stove/James Dishwasher Combo: (Re: Green Acres Appliances:)
MESSAGE: Just for a very short time in the early 60s. They were apparently troublesome, and I think Maytag even replaced some for people with their regular machines. Ads for them come up on Ebay sometimes, and there may even be a picture of the day for it.
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Post# 28777-4/10/2003-11:46 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: only 5 years old and in georgia (Rare gas Frigidaire dryer)
MESSAGE: It's always struck me as odd that gas seems to be the fuel of choice in an earthquake-prone area.
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Post# 28778-4/10/2003-11:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Pictures (Shifting Noises, Pump extra Openings:)
MESSAGE: Wow, that's quite a system. I had a DD with a detergent dispenser, and when I got it was somewhat disappointed that the dispenser no longer operated in the "recirculating filter style".
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Post# 28779-4/10/2003-11:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (switched power outlets)
MESSAGE: Thanks Chris for that explanation!
I'm always careful with the condition of cords, esp since I like vintage appliances. I did have a detachable percolator cord recently that must have had some sort of internal defect. When I plugged it in one morning, it almost shot me across the kitchen and made the most awful smell. The outlet had a GFCI so I popped that and got it out. There was no water on the counter and I saw no defects on the cord, so who knows.
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Post# 28780-4/10/2003-11:56 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT:
Wish me A LOT of luck today!
MESSAGE: Well Today I woke up with a swelled, purple, and extremely sensitive foot. It is so bad I can't even walk! I went to the doctor and they told me that I need to go to the Emergency Room! I am so scared that I will exit in a wheelchair! Wish me luck!
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Post# 28781-4/10/2003-11:58 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (timed fill)
MESSAGE: I think Frigidaire had its first non time fill in 1966 or 1967 on its TOL washer. Then, in 1970 when they went to the 1-18, those I believe are all non-time fill. Hotpoint and Speed Queen also retained the time fill design later than other brands.
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Post# 28782-4/10/2003-12:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wish me A LOT of luck today!
MESSAGE: I can't imagine what that must be Jamie, but I hope they can take care of the problem and have you feeling better soon. Scott
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Post# 28783-4/10/2003-13:13 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Audible Signal(Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM))
MESSAGE: Man, Im crazy about my new-style, front-mount lint filter overall. It facilitates having a heated drying rack via the blower that moves air back into the dryer, and I use the mess out of my drying rack - I had to have that. The bottom of the rack is designed to fit over that when it is in place. I also like the bigger, higher door opening that Scott55...mentioned.
That having been said, I have to agree that they do tend to get a lot of lint buildup down around the sides of the screen. With this new design, it becomes a lot more important to keep that screen cleaned often. In addition to that, about every 9 to 12 months I open up the outer cabinet and clean that thing out thoroughly.
On a side note, Ive noticed that my filter-needs-cleaning signal has stopped working over the years. I wonder if that has to do with the accumulation of lint in places I cant reach over the years. The signal seems to work by a change in the flow of air through the filter...
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Post# 28784-4/10/2003-13:41 ||| Zeke34 (mississioou)
SUBJECT:
florence cookstove
MESSAGE: does anyone have any info on a gas stove made under the tradename of florence? estimated date 1935-1959 .
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Post# 28785-4/10/2003-14:02 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wish me A LOT of luck today!
MESSAGE: Hang in there, Jamie.
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Post# 28786-4/10/2003-14:23 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wish me A LOT of luck today!
MESSAGE: I will say a prayer for you jamie!
Get to the ER A.S.A.P. and and get well soon!
Larry
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Post# 28787-4/10/2003-14:54 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wish me A LOT of luck today! (Re: Swollen Foot:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Jamie, I'm sorry to hear as well about your Swollen Foot. I will say some Prayer's for you as well. Please "Get Well" real soon, we need you and your Postings and great stories about your memories of past and interesting facts about your collection too. God Bless You always, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 28788-4/10/2003-15:37 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wow (wig wag clickety click)
MESSAGE: I remember the click click sound. I could only hear the sound after the water was drained, just before spin. But during agitate and spin, the other parts drowned out the click sounds. I liked that click.
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Post# 28789-4/10/2003-15:40 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM)
MESSAGE: That is right. If you think about it, that makes sense. The rear exaust doesn't really pull the hot air through all the clothes. (only the ones near the back.) But when the hot air comes in the back and out the front, that does dry clothes faster. In that way, the new WP/KM dryers are better. They are both good dryers though. The both have some small "inconveniences"
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Post# 28790-4/10/2003-15:46 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM)
MESSAGE: I like to know things are working their best. I feel satisfied when I know I have made something work like it did new. I did this with the dryer vent. With the fridge condensor. (it is an underneath maytag style, and it was clogged like the dryer vent.) And with our dishwasher. (I just totally cleaned out the pump housing which had quite a buildup of food and other junk.) Some people would replace a dishwasher simply because it wasn't cleaning well. In my opinion, almost ANY dishwasher can get most dishes clean, if they are working at their best.
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Post# 28791-4/10/2003-15:50 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM)
MESSAGE: The GE lint filter is so small. (when compared to most other brands.) But like you said, still pretty good dryers. (but I don't really like how the element is hung on the back wall.)
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Post# 28792-4/10/2003-15:53 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Kenmore top-mount filter, new style WP, KM)
MESSAGE: Everyone else in my family forgets to clean the lint filter. (well my 20 year old brother probably doesn't even know about it, even though I have tried to explain how a dryer works to him. And the importance of the lint filter.) My mom just forgets. But I always check it and make sure it is clean. (really, how hard is it to clean a lint filter? It is the most important maintenance to do to a dryer, and it takes about 5 seconds after each load. Yet so many people either don't do it or forget.)
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Post# 28793-4/10/2003-16:50 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
Scott
MESSAGE: You were at Charlie Lester's Great American Garage Clean up?! That is cool. I know who Charlie is through the vacuum forums. (I don't know him and he doesn't know me, but I know who he is.)
That is neat how I got to know people through my vacuum fascination. And now I am talking to people about a different subject (washers and dryers etc.) Yet at least you (maybe others?) know someone I know of. It is a small world:-)
(this didn't have much to do with appliances, but I thought it was neat for some reason)
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Post# 28794-4/10/2003-16:53 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT:
RE: Scott
MESSAGE: Kurt, I have never had so many friends since I started discovering these various clubs a few years back. The garage cleanup was a lot of fun. The one you saw me in was in January, 2002. There was just another one in March that I wasn't able to make. There is a lot of crossover between appliance and vacuum interest, and I have a few friends here that are also interested in vacuums and vice versa.
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Post# 28795-4/10/2003-17:38 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wish me A LOT of luck today! (Get WELL quick!)
MESSAGE: Oh Jamie! I'll keep you in my prayers. Get well quick and please keep us posted as to how you are doing.
Mike
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Post# 28796-4/10/2003-17:41 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (timed fill)
MESSAGE: Hotpoint, Speed Queen, Easy (which was made by Hotpoint toward the end of it's life), and Frigidaire were among to last machines to have timed fill water level controls.
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Post# 28797-4/10/2003-20:06 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT:
RE: Scott
MESSAGE: I see. I think I may join some clubs later on. (it would be a lot of fun.)
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Post# 28798-4/11/2003-01:00 ||| earthling177 (Boston, MA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Boston wash-in???
MESSAGE: Howdy!
The wash-in was great! I don't know why other people did not post about it, maybe out of pity for the people who missed it... ;-P
We may have a new member (Frank) who was fascinated by the Frigidaire washers. And Donald and Mitch joined us in the afternoon. There was a lot of delicious food, hours and hours of washing and drying, lots of conversation -- in short, a *lot* of fun! I don't think there was a single washer, dryer or combo that did not get used! Pity I had to leave early...
As for the pictures, sorry, but as far as I can tell, no one took any pictures, we were having too much fun to remember to take pictures. (At least I think that was the official answer -- we don't want to have the public at large seeing how much fun we can have) ;-)
Cheers,
-- Paulo.
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Post# 28799-4/11/2003-01:57 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: PotD
MESSAGE: Hey, what about me and the Kenmore 800???!!!
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Post# 28800-4/11/2003-02:05 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
Re: Movie, Three Wishes with Patrick Swayze:
MESSAGE: Hi! Deer Club Friends, has anyone ever watched the movie called Three Wishes, with Patrick Swayze? I have it on "DVD" and watched it on Thursday night, while writing a letter and I noticed the Kitchen more so in the Woman's house this time, where he recovers from a Broken Leg, than what I had before. It was all Turquoise Appliances and the only one I could see the most of was the Refrigerator and it looked like a single Door Coldspot or Crosley, with the 1/2 moon or crescent shaped Door Handle to open it with and she had one of the box-shaped Bendix Washers the was White, naturally. I didn't notice any good shots of the Stove or if there was a Dishwasher. In fact the whole Kitchen and eating area were all done in Turquoise, including the Dishes, Glasses, Napkins, etc. This show seemed to take place in the early 1950s, because of the Vehicles, the Clothes and Furniture, besides the Appliances. Didn't Crosley and Coldspot have similar looks anyway. Is or was Crosley a separate Brand of it's own, at that time? I know that there is a Crosley brand of Appliances now, that are similar to the Roper in looks, are they one in the same and owned basically through Whirlpool?
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Post# 28801-4/11/2003-02:09 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wish me A LOT of luck today!
MESSAGE: Well Jamie, What happened???Bob!
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Post# 28802-4/11/2003-05:47 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
TL Maytag Neptune
MESSAGE: Just spotted on the Maytag website - a picture of the new top loading Neptune. Only has a brief description that the conventional agitator has been removed. Suggests returning soon for more information... wonder if it is like the Whirlpool Calypso. Hmmm......
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Post# 28803-4/11/2003-07:53 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT:
Cottonwood Appliances for Sale
MESSAGE: I called Cottonwood Appliances in Alabama. I spoke to Henry who owns it. He said he had a mint condition Thor Automagic washer....my dream machine...I have been looking for that for a long time. He said the sale price was $5,750.00 plus shipping to California. He said he already had a $1,000.00 deposit on the machine from someone but that he had other Thors in his warehouse. What do you think??
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Post# 28804-4/11/2003-07:57 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT:
Cottonwood Appliances Has Vintage Washers for Sale
MESSAGE: I spoke to Henry who owns Cottonwood Appliances in Alabama. He said that he had a vintage Thor Automagic washer for sale. I have been looking for one of those for a long time. The sale price he said is $5,750.00 and that someone had put a deposit on it of $1,000.00 but he said that he had other Thors in his warehouse. What do you guys think??
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Post# 28805-4/11/2003-08:08 ||| fixit (NE Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: TL Maytag Neptune (TL Maytag Neptune - Horizontal Axis TopLoader?)
MESSAGE: Hi Angus,
Rumor has it the new Neptune toploader will be the Staber design. Not sure yet if this rumor's true, but this does look like a pretty cool washer. Hexagonal stainless basket, the usual single-belt reversing wash action, but with a loading hatch on the 'side' (top) of the basket. Check it out at the Staber website (videos, pics of the mfg process - cool site!):
http://www.staber.com
God bless,
Dave
Dave's Repair Service
Psssst! - Signed up for your Monthly DRSNews yet?
mailto:drs@sosbbs.com?subject=SubscribeDRSN
Ps 116:1-2
LINK: http://www.staber.com
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Post# 28806-4/11/2003-09:06 ||| IMPERIALBOB (COLLINS-WIRTH RECREATIONAL CENTER / IMPERIAL LAUNDRY STUDIO / ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA 22204 USA)
SUBJECT:
RETIREMENT
MESSAGE: One reason I've had so much time to post is that I am fully retired at the present time, and have been for about 5 years now, even though I'm only 40 years old. However, fortunately, I was able to overcome my disability and the retirement thing will be coming to an end within the next 2 years or so....after that time, I won't have AS MUCH time to spend living and breathing appliances.
ANYWAY - after a long winter's nap, I'm back and intend to STAY back here at applianceville.
The winter brought a 1-18 to me here in the Imperial Laundry Studio, and I'm happy to report it is in such excellent shape as to even run quietly....nearly like new mechanical and physical condition.
There are dozens of photos I can share, and would be very happy to share with you all, as sharing, I thought, was the very purpose of this list - sharing our information, photos, and stories about vintage appliances.
Anyway - Life is too short for me to stay silent any longer. I advise anyone who doesn't wanna read what I have to say to just close their eyes and don't look then. I gotta be me, and that's all there is to that.
I DO love you all like family. Don't you all have any family members with whom you do not speak? I certainly do...and that's just the way that is. You can't please all the people, all the time, and I have said before, I have no intention of trying to do so.
Last night I played swing trombone with a fellow in his 80's I hadn't met before who totally blew me away musically - this made me think - I have over 40 years left on this good earth, and like hell if I'm gonna sit here and keep it all to myself.
Life is for living, and be assured, I still have a lot of living to do.
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Post# 28807-4/11/2003-09:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: TL Maytag Neptune
MESSAGE: Thank you Angus for the link. I took the liberty and opened a thread about it on the Gardenweb/Thathomesite.
Louis
LINK: http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load/appl/msg041007529587.html
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Post# 28808-4/11/2003-09:14 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Boston wash-in???
MESSAGE: Thank you Paulo for the report. I bet you had a lot of fun. Maybe not in the near future, but be sure I will turn up at one of the Bostonian wash-ins.
Have a nice weekend,
Louis
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Post# 28809-4/11/2003-09:16 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: RETIREMENT
MESSAGE: This club gets under your skin, doesn't it? Glad you're back.
Louis
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Post# 28810-4/11/2003-09:20 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT:
RE: Wish me A LOT of luck today!
MESSAGE: Hey Jamie,
How are you? Hope it wasn't anything serious and that I have to let them put a note in the waling wall for you! Tell us how you are.
Louis
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Post# 28811-4/11/2003-09:44 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT:
WELCOMING
MESSAGE: Thank you, Louis, for welcoming me back to the club.
It's been a long, cold, lonely winter.....here comes the sun.
B
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Post# 28812-4/11/2003-10:08 ||| cycla-fabric (New Jersey)
SUBJECT:
RE: RETIREMENT
MESSAGE: Welcome Back Bob, you were missed!! Congrats on the Frigidaire 1-18!
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Post# 28813-4/11/2003-10:42 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: RETIREMENT (I'll be Dipped in Buttermilk!)
MESSAGE: Well corn my pone and chit my chittlins, if it aint my old friend Imperial Bob! *backslap*
Oops, sorry - didnt mean to hit you so hard.
How the hell are you, guy??? *bone crushing bear hug*
As much as I am enjoying our email visits, you are *needed* here, son. You have extensive experience doing the very thing we all love: restoring old appliances. We need your valuable input. And your photos are all that, too.
I will drop you a longer letter when I get some time today, and I look forward to seeing you in June. Just got some photos of my nephew emailed to me today: he's growing like a weed in a vacant lot...gonna be a tall one.
Meanwhile, a Suthren (sic) "how do", and a hearty "welcome back" to ya. Dont you go nowhere this time.
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Post# 28814-4/11/2003-10:49 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: TL Maytag Neptune
MESSAGE: Louis n Angus n Dave:
Wonder if this will be competition for the Staber, which I like a lot, but which has no matching dryer, plus that hexagonal wash tub has at least one design flaw, mainly that there are reports it sounds like a helicopter in flight during the final spin.
Ive loved the Neppie FL all these years; I think I will love the TL version, too.
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Post# 28815-4/11/2003-11:59 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT:
RE: WELCOMING (WELCOME BACK)
MESSAGE: Like John Sebastian sang in 1977
Who'da thought they'd lead ya
Back here where we need ya
Yeah, we tease him alot
but we got him on the spot
Welcome Back
And to celebrate I'm going to get a pizza tonight, put in my new Harry Potter 2 DVD that I just got from Amazon.com and crank up the machines.
Pizza, Harry, Kenmores, and Bob's back. What could be better?
Six Flags opening day tomorrow! WOOHOO!!!
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Post# 28816-4/11/2003-12:13 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT:
RE: Turbodrum / HydroWash - LG/GE? (GE/LG Turbodrum)
MESSAGE: Thought you all might like something I found on the LG website. Gives a look at Turbodrum concept. Pretty interesting, huh?
LINK: http://www.lge.com/c_product/home/washing/o_tdd_funtion.jsp
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Post# 28817-4/11/2003-12:50 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
RE: RETIREMENT (Welcome back!)
MESSAGE: Thanks for coming home where you belong.....
We miss you more than finding that lost sock that was stuck in a GE pump!
Friendship goes a long way and holding grudges causes more stress on the motor than a off balance load. I look forward to all your messages and all those vintage Mpegs of what is going on in your paradise laundry room!
Once again, welcome back out of retirement Bob!
Larry
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Post# 28818-4/11/2003-13:02 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT:
Vacuum find
MESSAGE: This morning I've found a Hoover Portable Cleaning Center in excellent body condition and was wondering if anybody wants it! (Not sure if it runs) but I hope that it is still in the side bin of the truck and will bring it home to take a few photo of it. So when posted, if anybody is interested in it, I will box and ship it to you for the price of crating and shipping.
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Post# 28819-4/11/2003-13:08 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT:
RE: WELCOMING (WELCOME BACK)
MESSAGE: Jason:
Sounds like a typical Friday night for you. Wish I was having one of those and not tearing up my bathroom.
Six Flags is opening up already! Man this spring is going by fast!
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Post# 28820-4/11/2003-13:09 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT:
RE: RETIREMENT
MESSAGE: Welcome back Bob - it is so good to have you back and your expertise has been sorely missed!!!
Anthony
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Post# 28821-4/11/2003-14:13 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: Turbodrum / HydroWash - LG/GE? (GE/LG Turbodrum)
MESSAGE: Interesting link. The washer would be fun to watch. Maybe they will come out with a clear plastic lid to see the action like on the compact Avanti brand washer. Probably not.
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Post# 28822-4/11/2003-14:16 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
RE: WELCOMING
MESSAGE: Welcome back Bob.
The Lady "K" is running beautifully!
Thanks for your input on breaking her in.
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Post# 28823-4/11/2003-14:21 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT:
Boston Wash-In
MESSAGE: Sorry we have not posted since last weekend but we all have been busy with school, work, etc...
We had a great time on Saturday. There was plenty of food and drink and I think we may have a convert or two who were interested in the Frigidaires. I think we tried all the machines that day. We could have used more laundry since we ran out a little too soon, but we all went out for Thai food that night and had a great end to the day. Sorry, but I do not think any pics were taken. We were too caught up in the action!.
Bruce
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Post# 28824-4/11/2003-15:15 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT:
RE: Vacuum find (Hoover Shipping:)
MESSAGE: How much would the crate and shipping be to sacramento,calif? Is this a compact unit, like the '60s ones, called a washer/spin dryer? or something differnet?
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Post# 28825-4/11/2003-16:02 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT:
RE: RETIREMENT
MESSAGE: Bob,
After my younger brother (35 y.o.) was shot and killed back in November, I too have found that life must be lived now. Being 37 myself, I don't take for much for granted anyomore and have had to focus on not letting myself get upset over the trivial things in life. During the time following my brother's death I discovered this site and I remember the fallout here and your decision to leave applianceville. I truely felt like we would be missing out on your life's experience with these classic machines. I am glad your back and look forward to reading your posts, welcome back!
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Post# 28826-4/11/2003-16:22 ||| fixit (NE Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT:
RE: TL Neptune
MESSAGE: Hey,
I didn't realize until today that the Staber design overcomes my biggest objection to FL's - main bearing failure. Somehow I missed the fact that this design supports the basket front and rear. This is a great idea, as we see both Frigidaire and Neptune bearings failing around here at 5-7 yo. All that weight hanging off rear bearings just never made sense to us, so the Staber design looks like a great idea! Front access is *always* welcome too - I'm gettin too durn old to crawl around behind 'em any more!
God bless,
Dave
Ps 119:160
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Post# 28827-4/11/2003-17:13 ||| programcomputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer
MESSAGE: I work for the Hoover Company Division of the Maytag Corporation, and I have seen nothing about this new "Neptune" top loader. But then again I haven't been to the Innovator Website (for emp's. Only) for some time (about 2 wks.). I have recently seen a Staber designed washer and find it VERY unique and quite revolutionary. However, diddn't we all have this about 1950 with the Launderall?
I'm sure that the new Staber automatic would be ages different than the Launderall, but really is it? I mean it is based on the same principal. Reversing/Revolving drum but with a top opening. I have both articles in my own collection of washer stuff and Consumer Reports and Reasearch Guide gave those washers Flunking scores...along with my beloved Westinghouse Laundromat.
I had the spin bearing replaced on my Westinghouse Spacemate about two years ago along with new belts and a new potato pulley. The pump was also replaced, but I declined a new motor. A freind of mine , who rebuilds washers; said that it still had Several years left in it. I still need to find an almond lid for my Westinghouse Spacemate Laundromat as I no longer have the machines stacked...anyone know where I can find one?
To round this out, I know that too many consumers today find it difficult to understand that front loaders, or more technically a "horizontal axis" machine...are more enviormentally freindly, save on water soap and money (i.e.Westinghouse ad), gets clothse JUST as clean as top loaders, and I feel personally my Laundry gets LOTS of compliments of smelling good. Yeah detergent and softner have something to do with it...BUT...If it's NOT cleaning well and removing the old dirt and odors, the scent of the soap really wouldn't matter would it?
Long live my Westinghouse Spacemate...still not improved enough on to waste $1,000.00 to get a Neptune.
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Post# 28828-4/11/2003-17:17 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: TL Neptune (Re: New Neptune Top-Load:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Dave, how are you? It is great to see you Posting about the new Neptune Top-Load. That is interesting about the
dual-shaft idea that the Staber has that this Neptune might have. I'm wondering however if the new Neptune might take the idea similar to the new GE/Harmony Washer by having a Disk on the Bottom of the Tub Rotating both directions to Wash the Laundry instead? I would rather have that consept personally for my Top-Load Washer. {Hey! Guys, don't get me wrong, I love the Top-Load Agitators, I just mean if I were to buy one of these}. I'm already thinking about looking into trading in my 1997 Neptune Washer for this if it is the new Disk operation, it will still at least also match my Dryer pretty well too, since mine has the full Console, instead of the Curved Console, like the newer Neptunes have. It will be interesting about the Price too. I will have to investigate this at my Friends Maytag Store, that just opened last year. It is one of the first totally operable Appliance Store's for people to use the Appliances to check them out before making purchases. It is a great idea, similar to what Sears used to do with their Washers and Dryers. Thanks again for the Posting, keep up the good work and interest. Congrats to your recent membership to the Club too.
Best Regards, Steve
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Post# 28829-4/11/2003-17:30 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer
MESSAGE: Ok,
After checking some things out, looks like this machine has a washbasket shaped like a large fish bowl...on both sides towards the bottom are two large round plastic impellers that will rotate the laundry toward the front of the machine or toward the back of the machine....The rest of the tub is stainless steel. Yeah it looks like the current Maytag lineup in style.
We'll see though. Looks to me like in 20 years this will be something to talk about?
Anyway For Now,
Chad
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Post# 28830-4/11/2003-18:15 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Vacuum find (Hoover Shipping:)
MESSAGE: Steve,
I'm not sure until I get the unit home and boxed and weighed at the post office. This is a rough calculation of the dimension 16x14x8. It is a compact unit and I think all the attachment is still included. Please be patient until I get this off the truck tonight.
And if you don't mind, give me your zip code for proper shipping pricing.
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Post# 28831-4/11/2003-18:57 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: RETIREMENT
MESSAGE: Bob, it's nice to see you back. I missed your wit and wisdom. Thanks for sharing again!
Tom
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Post# 28832-4/11/2003-19:27 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: RETIREMENT
MESSAGE: Glad you're back Bob ... I personally missed your pics and your quips. Todd
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Post# 28833-4/11/2003-19:44 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Turbodrum / HydroWash - LG/GE? (WOW!)
MESSAGE: I have GOT to get this!
I hope there is a window on the lid and if not, the lid switch isn't very difficult to take care of.
Beautiful machines, love the contoured control panels.
We're in the second golden age of washing machines. That back-and-forth agitator just gets more boring as the years go by. Time for some cool innovative machines to come out.
GO GE!
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Post# 28834-4/11/2003-19:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: RETIREMENT (YO Wash-in man)
MESSAGE: I wonder if we can have another New Orleans wash-in and invite this ALR guy along too?
If we do wash, there will be pics and video. We will share the fun.
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Post# 28835-4/11/2003-19:56 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: RETIREMENT
MESSAGE: Bob, congratulations, I'm so proud of you!!! And very happy for ou. Please email me with details of what's going on. Bob
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Post# 28836-4/11/2003-20:06 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer
MESSAGE: I like top loaders better. I don't know why. I just like how they clean clothes. I like how they operate. Front loaders might get clothes cleaner, but I still like top loaders. Top load agitator machines will probably never be gone. Even if front loaders move into the majority, I think there will always be a place for top loaders in some manufacturers line up. But I do like the "sounds" of these new designs (GE's and Maytag.)
But does anyone know, why do front loaders generally have much higher spin speeds? It seems to me they would be more suseptable to walking and unbalanced spins. (since if the load is unbalanced, the unbalanced weight goes very fast "up down up down up down" as it goes around.) But with top loaders, the load goes around and the unbalanced weight goes left-back-right-front-left... as it goes around.
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Post# 28837-4/11/2003-20:27 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer (FL Spin)
MESSAGE: From what I've seen with the newer front loaders, they start real slow and they slowly accelerate until the clothes magically stick to the edge of the drum. Well, maybe not "magic" but centrifugal force. Once the clothes are good and stuck and the drum is not swaying like it's off balance, it will then surge up to a speed of about 500rpm. You'll hear it go "Weeee", the tub will jump around a little while it tries to catch its balance but once it does, it will sit there and spin very steadily. On the final spin, it will slowly go up to 1050rpm for the Frigemores or 1200 for the He3t's.
If during the initial balancing part of the spin, the tub is wobbling, the washer will sense the out of balance, stop the tub, and try again. The Frigemore will try and try until it works right.
It is kind of a funky way to get clothes to spin but it saves water.
I'm not sure why most FL's have faster spins. Top loaders can do the same. The Unimatic Frigidaire, the King of 'em all goes 1140rpm.
Fisher & Paykel goes 1000rpm and this new GE will go 1010.
Now if only Frigidiare could bring back the pulsator and 1140rpm spin in a 1-18 sized tub, that would be SWELL!
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Post# 28838-4/11/2003-20:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer (FL Spin)
MESSAGE: I like the commercial frontloaders that make that jet sound and go up to speed all at once, whilst the last vestiges of suds go streaming down the window.
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Post# 28839-4/11/2003-20:49 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer (FL Spin)
MESSAGE: When I do the towels in Sir Frigemore, the suds rain down the glass during that first surge of spin right after the wash. It's so neat to watch that. I can actually see the suds water being extracted from my towels.
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Post# 28840-4/11/2003-20:51 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer (FL Spin)
MESSAGE: Those things are bolted to the floor anyway so it doesn't really care if the clothes are magically balanced or not. It just goes and the clothes have to stick to the sides no questions Asko'd.
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Post# 28841-4/11/2003-21:02 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer (FL Spin)
MESSAGE: My Fridgemore does the same thing. I think having a window is what swayed me from buying the Neptune I was considering at the time.
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Post# 28842-4/11/2003-21:23 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: TL Maytag Neptune (OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH)
MESSAGE: One may need to go and have a cold shower after looking at that sexy new Maytag.
Arrrooohhh indeed! The Kylie Minogue of washing machines!
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Post# 28843-4/11/2003-21:24 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer (Nothing new about TL HA)
MESSAGE: Europe has been producing top loading drum style machines for years in the launderall format.
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Post# 28844-4/11/2003-21:43 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer (How on earth would that work?)
MESSAGE: Shaped like a gold fish bowl. So is that a vertical or horizontal axis drum?
Two pulsators at the sides? Is that anything like the Keymatic washer that our friend Chris (Gizmo) recently had the good fortune to find? I could imagine that might work in a h axis drum bur in a v axis are the pulsators on the side or the base of the drum?
Hmmmmm. One eagerly awaits more new, information and picures.
I must say that to use impellers the load must be submerged in water and unless I am mistaken shouldnt HE machines save water as well as electricity?
The same goes for the new GE. If it is anything like the LG turbodrum DD it still needs to fill with water to a high level. There must be water in the drum for the centrifugal action to force the water up the sides and back into the washbowl.
Whatever the outcome at least manufacterers are trying new and different ideas.
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Post# 28845-4/11/2003-21:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: TL Maytag Neptune (Welcome back to the 50s)
MESSAGE: We're back in the 50s!
Instead of 2003 it's 1953!
Think about it...
A new and improved TV system is here and becoming more available and affordable
Music is becoming even more Hi-Fi.
Washer manufacturers are busting each other with new innovative designs.
Car and truck manufacturers are also trying to come out with the newest, slickest product.
Life is getting cooler and cooler.
Just think 20 or 30 years from now and the Calypso, Frigemores, Harmony, He3ts, etc. are gonna be CLASSIC APPLIANCES and we got to see 'em and own them the first time around.
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Post# 28846-4/11/2003-21:47 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer (How on earth would that work? (keymatic link))
MESSAGE: Could the new Neptune be anything like this?
LINK: http://uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/lst?.dir=/Hoover+Keymatic&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//uk.photos.yahoo.com/bc/gizmo_au63/vwp%3f.dir=/Hoover%2bKeymatic%26.dnm=pulsator%2bclutch%2breleased.jpg%26.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 28847-4/11/2003-22:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer (How on earth would that work? (keymatic link))
MESSAGE: That would be exciting, but still hard to imagine since the door of your washer has more metal than the new Neptune will.
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Post# 28848-4/11/2003-22:22 ||| bendix5 (oregon)
SUBJECT: RE: RETIREMENT
MESSAGE: I am so glad to see you coming back into the group Bob. Your wonderful collection, information and music is missed here. Hope to see and read much from you. Dano
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Post# 28849-4/11/2003-22:23 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: RETIREMENT (Re: Welcome back Bob:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Bob, welcome back to Postings and the Club Site. We've missed you and are glad your returning to this huge Family of Applianceville Mania. It is always great getting info from others, especially first-hand and and otherwise and learning something new every day from everyone in the Club{s}.
My best to you always, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 28850-4/11/2003-22:55 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: club fellowship
MESSAGE: I believe many of us have felt the sting of a rebuke,a cutting remark,or have been made to feel that we "didn't belong" in our everyday lives.We all know just how much that can hurt,and for how long.It is great we have this club,and hats off to our webmaster/founder.Let's work together as a club,have some fun,and see how large this club can grow!! Thank you!
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Post# 28851-4/11/2003-23:25 ||| electrophobia (NOLA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Movie, Three Wishes with Patrick Swayze: (3 wishes)
MESSAGE: Crosley I beleive always rebadged appliances, they did make their own radios, in fact laundry equipment is still sold as crosley in the midwest they are identical to the maytage performa line, I have also seen rebadged ge's sold as crosley's (washers and dryers) in Missouri in the early 80's.In fact there was a vintage crosley laundry add on e-bay not to long ago they were rebadged bendix machines. I guess crosley wroten their name on everything, just like Sears and never mfr. anything, except radios.
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Post# 28852-4/11/2003-23:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Movie, Three Wishes with Patrick Swayze: (3 wishes)
MESSAGE: "Back in the day" Crosley and Bendix were both owned by the same parent company (AVCO), which explains those similiarities. I don't think they ever did a stint with White Westinghouse like so many others have, but in later years it's become kind of a "stray" name, much like Kelvinator, Norge, etc., that pops up here and there. The latest incarnations I've seen are rebadged direct drive Whirlpool laundry appliances.
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Post# 28853-4/11/2003-23:55 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer (FL Spin)
MESSAGE: I have heard that wee sound. I saw a maytag neptune at a neighbors (jeez I know which washer and dryer people have. Almost every house I have been into, I have seen their washer and dryer:-) Anyway it was at the beginning of spin and I heard that acceleration. (a neat sound.)
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Post# 28854-4/11/2003-23:59 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Movie, Three Wishes with Patrick Swayze: (3 wishes)
MESSAGE: Whirlpool, Kenmore, Kitchen Aid, Inglis, Estate and maybe a couple others are all the same Whirlpool made direct drive washers.
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Post# 28855-4/12/2003-00:00 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Movie, Three Wishes with Patrick Swayze: (Three Wishes Movie:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Friends, I was just looking at electrophobia's Post about my question it made me think about something else. Did Roper used to be owned by GE/Hotpoint and then sold to Whirlpool? I have a Cousin who has or had a Roper Washer that was based on the GE/Hotpoint Washer, where I notice the newer Roper Washers are like Whirlpool's? Their Roper Washer is about a Mid to late 1980s model. It also had the older
odd-shaped Lid with the angled edges on the front part of the Lid, instead of being basically squared shaped. It I believe was a more Standard Size Tub, instead of being Extra Large Capacity, but it's been some time since I've seen it, because we live some distance from each other. It has a Swirl/Curve Vane Agitator like the GE/Hotpoint's, instead of the Straight Vane Agitator.
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Post# 28856-4/12/2003-00:14 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Movie, Three Wishes with Patrick Swayze: (Three Wishes Movie:)
MESSAGE: I think that might be the case. Another similar odd juxtaposition of brands was in the later 80s and early 90s, when there were GE appliances badged as "RCA", where that would previously of course had been Whirlpool.
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Post# 28857-4/12/2003-01:01 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Movie, Three Wishes with Patrick Swayze: (Three Wishes Movie:)
MESSAGE: OMG, that is what my Cousin's Washer was, "OOPS" and I thought I guess that because of all of this talk about Roper's it was a Roper, but now that you've mentioned about the RCA Washer, it was an RCA instead. Give that nice "Washer Guy" a Big Prize, for correcting what I thought to be a little different Brand. Thank you for clarifying that for me. I did mention about it being some time since I saw the Washer, due to living some distance from each other.
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Post# 28858-4/12/2003-01:45 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Older Roper Washer:
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friends, I've got to ask, who it is that has the older Roper that they took the upper part of the Agitator with the Lint Filter off of and said the it would Wash with just the lower part? I'm wondering if it could really Wash with the upper part removed and without ripping anything into shreds? I thought that even the newer ones were like that, having the removable center with the Lint Filter, but I'm guessing it is just the only older ones? I looked at the ones at Lowe's to check out all of teh Models they had there and they all had
1-piece Agitator's, so I'm assuming the newer ones have a
Self-Clean Filtering System. I'm interesting in trying to find one similar to that Model, of whomever has it, to have some fun with it too, by taking the Center part with the Filter out of the Agitator, to watch it operate that way. I would appreciate any help on finding out who it is again, thank you.
Best to everyone, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 28859-4/12/2003-02:55 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: "POD" Westinghouse 25" Front-Load Washer:
MESSAGE: OK! You Guys, did you catch the interesting info in the middle of the AD on this neat 25" Portable Washer and the Slanted Front's? It says that it was available in "Gay" Holiday Colors, besides White. They also stated that the Slanted-Front Side-By-Side units Pictured in the Lower Left Corner are also available in the "Gay" Holiday Colors too, besides White. Has anyone ever seen one of these or have one? Did they make very many on production? How did they compare as holding up to the separate Machines that are permanently installed? Did they have the Verticle/Horizontal Axis Tub, or the Slanted-Type Tub? I'm guessing since it had a Square shaped Cabinet, it had the Verticle/Horizontal Axis Tub's in them. So, what did Betty Furness know back then, that we know about now? "Some where, over the Rainbow!"
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Post# 28860-4/12/2003-03:17 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: RETIREMENT
MESSAGE: Hi Bob
Glad to have you back, missed all those videos and info....
Applianceville IS a great source energy and memories once again re-lived.... wether you post each day or look in occasionally there are always new members, story`s and pics to catch up on...
Hows the Baby Bendix doing????
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 28861-4/12/2003-03:21 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Turbodrum / HydroWash - LG/GE? (GE/LG Turbodrum)
MESSAGE: WoW
Power Washing seems to be the name of the game!!! definately needs a glass lid to view the "Live Water Action" as Hoover used to claim....
Does make you wonder "What goes around comes around" in the 50`s/60`s there was a twinny machine that used a water powered pump to "PUNCH" the washing clean....
Happy Washing
Mike
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Post# 28862-4/12/2003-03:23 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: TITAN!!!!! Remember This
MESSAGE: Talking of New/Old washer concepts, remember this?????
Not a Classic or Vintage yet............
OVER TO SANDBOX for thoughts if you wish
Enjoy Mike
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/chestermikeuk/vwp?.dir=/Modern+Washers&.src=ph&.dnm=Remember+This!!!!!.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/chestermikeuk/lst%3f%26.dir=/Modern%2bWashers%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28863-4/12/2003-03:56 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Vacuum find (A picture is worth?)
MESSAGE: Here is the photo's of the unit Steve.
All that is missing from the set is the dusting brush.
I'm not a vacuum fan, so I don't know what year this was made.
The true dimension of this vacuum is 18x14x8. As you can see I was not too far off the mark!
Whoever owned this took very good care of it because it's in great shape as you can see. I did not plug it up due to the fact I have allergy's and the bag is still in the unit. So its up to you if you want it.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/cleanteamofny/lst?.dir=/Hoover+Vac&.view=t
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Post# 28864-4/12/2003-05:32 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: "POD" Westinghouse 25" Front-Load Washer:
MESSAGE: I actually do have a "Laundromat 25" - freestanding and in white. I found it at an estate sale last summer complete with instruction book (dated June 1955). Unfortunately the estate sale people would not let me start it up to see if it worked. Probably a good thing since the inlet and drain hoses were original and were all cracked and disintegrating. The thing probably had not been used for years. Also, while transporting it home I noticed that one of the drum supports was cracked and the door gasket was so dry it crumbled the minute the machine was moved.
I need to get on this, but right now the room I was planning to use for the new laundry has not been converted yet, so this machine will just have to wait until I find another job and have the money to convert and repair that poor waif!!! My existing laundry area is simply an alcove with only enough room for one washer and dryer. I must say the 1-18 and the Laundromat have been patient - sitting in the garage and not complaining.......
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Post# 28865-4/12/2003-07:12 ||| Sharon (Calfornia)
SUBJECT: RE: PotD
MESSAGE: im new to this site so be patient
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Post# 28866-4/12/2003-08:25 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT: RE: RETIREMENT
MESSAGE: Welcome back to the club Bob!
I'll never forget your kindness and suggestions for parts for my poppy red 118 that is now a thing of the past. ))--::
You are oh so right. There is a lot of living to do out there and so many times for one reason or another, some of us forget that fact. Thank God that most of the times, this is only a "temporary" thing.
Glad you're back.
Dick S.
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Post# 28867-4/12/2003-08:33 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: RETIREMENT (Life is short)
MESSAGE: I narrowed it down to 3 secrets to living a happy life
WASHING MACHINES
ROLLER COASTERS
RECORD PLAYERS
I collect all three. Well, maybe not roller coasters but coaster related stuff.
That's my happiness. And of course hanging out with people that does the same.
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Post# 28868-4/12/2003-09:49 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Vacuum find (A picture is worth?)
MESSAGE: Wow, that is a very nice Portable! I can tell by the rug nozzle that it is one of the later units.
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Post# 28869-4/12/2003-12:44 ||| JoeEkaitis (Rialto, California, USA)
SUBJECT: Slightly creepy POD (Westinghouse 25, 04/12/03)
MESSAGE: Yes, the washer itself is a fine example of Westinghouse 3-tone color scheme, but am I the only one creeped out by those 2 floating Betty Furness half-bodies.
::shivers::
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Post# 28870-4/12/2003-12:46 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Vacuum find (A picture is worth?)
MESSAGE: Scott,
the floor nozzle looks like it was never used, only a lint buildup around the nozzel area and the brush that is line across the head is very clean!
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Post# 28871-4/12/2003-13:55 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Wish me A LOT of luck today! (Re: Jamie:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Jamie, how are you doing? What did you find out about your Swollen Foot? Is it getting better now? Please Post to let us know when you feel like getting on the Site to let us know how you are doing. "Get Well" real soon, we all miss you and your input of Postings.
Best Regards, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 28872-4/12/2003-15:31 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer (Neptune TL info:)
MESSAGE: Hi! this is Steve, I was wondering if you might have some info already from your Employee's Site area about how much these new Neptune Washer and Dryer Sets will cost {approx} with both the Electric and Gas Dryers? As you've no doubt noticed from other Postings, everyone is wondering if the Washer is going to also have a Window to be able to check out the Action? Is the Dryer also going to have a Window, similar to the new
GE-Harmony?
I'm sorry to go off topics of the Classics, but someone else did start this curiousity and I'm just as curious too.
Best Regards, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 28873-4/12/2003-15:52 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: Lucy's washer
MESSAGE: On the old I Love Lucy show, Fred and Ethel got a used washing machine from Lucy. As they were eating lunch the machine went crazy and they got into a fight as to who owned the machine. Does anyone know what make this washer was?
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Post# 28874-4/12/2003-17:01 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer (Neptune TL info:)
MESSAGE: Lucy's washer was a rebaged Launderall that read Epernay or some equivelent wording.
On the new Maytag's, they will not have a window to see the action, and is a vertical axis machine like it's prvious agitator counterparts using the same cabinet look as the current Atlantis Line.
The fishbowl tub has two meduim size Paddle impellers on the lower bottom sides. As they spin in unison, I would imagine they will rotate the clothes forward towards the front of the machine(tub)...then reverse throwing them back to the rear of the machine(tub). The entire tub will rotate centrifugally when it's time to spin the clothes "damp-dry".
To see this washer as I'm sure that it now on the corporate website go to....
Chad
P.S. Lower left hand corner features it...on the Corporate website
LINK: http://www.maytag.com
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Post# 28875-4/12/2003-18:01 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: Critters Love Appliances Too!
MESSAGE: 1986 Lady Kenmore Electronic Dryer, adopted by Tuesday on Saturday.
(picture provided by my friend Brenda)
LINK: http://users.wcnet.net/dadoes/tuesday_dryer.jpg
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Post# 28876-4/12/2003-18:44 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: Critters Love Appliances Too!
MESSAGE: What a great pic of the kitty!. He/She is so cute. I have 2 cats myself and I know how curious they can be.
Bruce
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Post# 28877-4/12/2003-19:23 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Re:Westinghouse Ad
MESSAGE: Appliancevillians
I may be going on a tangent here, but; It occurs to myself and most others that the word "gay" meant something entirely different in 1956,when Westinghouse's advertising agency wrote that ad; than it does today. Where now it's meant, when used innappropriatly, as a demorilizing slang word.
Many advertisements back in that period used phrases or "words" that today mean something not intened then. Gay meant happy in 1956, as in happy colors. Think of today with "Happy Little Clouds when you KNOW that the PBS Painter wit/da Fro as I refered to him; wanted to say "GAY little clouds!:-)
For example of TV ad's that could be misconstruded coming right from our own Video Archives...
First example ! For the 1959 Norge Dispensomat Washer where the appliance tech takes off his shirt, and for a breif but lingering second you can see his torso area. You and I both know that in 1959 it was what we would refer to as a innocent blooper, but in 2003 many people find it to be somewhat sexual and you can almost make out that she's smiling while he "strips" for her.
But reading all that into what was so simple then, therfore completely misconstrudes the context of the entire advertisement which was about a very cool and neat washer. Although the salesman /installer doesn't help his case when he say's to the ol'lady buying it that " Lady I just install washer's".
In today's misconstruding context, what else exzactly would he be able to do with it? I mean come on what else could he have really done with that washing appliance?(wink wink nudge nudge) See, reading too much into things that 50 years ago was just advetising nothing, is fun and easy to do.
Today half of the advertising jargon that we see in the archives would NEVER fly just like the (Second Exmple)Westinghouse Furniture TV ad.
Second Example: He waves his wand and magically a beautiful woman clad in a 50's style ballgown appears sitting atop a new Televsion.. Then he calls her honey when she's explaining why she doesn't like it i.e ( the old style T.V.) She gets second stage talking about how beautiful it is and how it set's into any decor; while he talks about how "Useful" it is and features that may actually make you "want" to buy that televsision.
And how at the end in a soft sultry voice she say's "don't settle for another picture tube in a box, (then Softer) get the most beautiful furniture you ever watched).
I feel that that ad probably led to women becoming man haters and spurred the sale of every Ms. magazine ever published.
Whereas today, an ad like that would shutter the doors of the agency writing that because every feminist group in america would boycott every product, stage write ins to the company using the agency and e.t.c.
Third example is the General Electric Vacuum Cleaner advertisement....
I know I've had a a few such "drag-around tradgety's" would also be a Huge NO NO today.People who dress in drag and saw that commercial would stand in front of every state capital with signs protesting the sale of ANY G.E. vacuum cleaner or other appliance.
It's stuff like that that people today would have a suing the Corporate America heyday over.
I just had to add my nine cents in here. However, away from that I thought that the POD was a scream and because I love the Westinghouse Laundromat as much as I do made it a very enjoyable ad.
But, the context means just that.... yesterday and today...gay means happy. I mean aren't we all?
Yours
Chad
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Post# 28878-4/12/2003-19:25 ||| Acerone (California)
SUBJECT: RE: TITAN!!!!! Remember This (Yes I remember.)
MESSAGE: Yes what ever happened to the Titan washer?
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Post# 28879-4/12/2003-20:19 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Critters Love Appliances Too! (Kats and Kenmore)
MESSAGE: It seems that the Kenmore hamper door is an inviting doorstep to a nice warm place to curl up and relax. Our cat Kitt used to climb in the old Kenmore all the time. Now that my mom has the WCI (pronounced "Wicked") dryer, the cat won't have anything to do with it.
Smart cat.
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Post# 28880-4/12/2003-21:40 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: TL Maytag Neptune (Welcome back to the 50s)
MESSAGE: Jason, your remarks are a great "lead". Anyone interested in laundry and dishwasher observations from this weekends 2003 Kitchen/Bath show @ Orlando....see you in the Sandbox.
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Post# 28881-4/13/2003-00:07 ||| korpben2000 (warren,pa)
SUBJECT: RE: Lucy's washer (lucy's washer)
MESSAGE: yeah hi there shawn, yes i remember watching that episode,that washer looked like an abc o matic i'm not for sure though but who knows.
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Post# 28882-4/13/2003-00:27 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Friday's #28859 "POD" Comment:
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friends, I want to Apologize for what I wrote about the 1952 Westinghouse 25-inch Model Washer, of the additoinal comment that I made about the word "Gay" in the Posting. I know that it upset one person at least and I have made a personal Apology to them and in case it might have offended or hurt anyone else, I wanted to Apologize to the whole Club Member's Group. As I mentioned to the person, I realized that when they Posted they were quite upset or hurt with the Posting I left, so I knew then that I shouldn't have let my opened feelings of Jesture of trying to be Funny about the Term and knowing what it meant in the "Good Ol'Days" and what it can mean most of the time these days now, that I just let myself go with what I was thiking and inputting and I'm real sorry for that Offense. I wasn't trying to hurt anyone, I want us to all be able to be real good Friends and not Enemies and not to be purposely hurting each other with saying something wrong, so I hope that everyone who might be offended or got hurt by my comment will forgive me, OK?
My best to you all, Steve
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Post# 28883-4/13/2003-00:40 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: TL Maytag Neptune (Welcome back to the 50s)
MESSAGE: Whoa . . sounds intriguing! I better go look!
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Post# 28884-4/13/2003-01:13 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Lucy's washer (lucy's washer)
MESSAGE: Hi,
Being an avid Lucy fan, I've seen this episode numerous times and have tried to make out the brand name on the front of the machine. It appears to be something like "Epervay" or "Eperway" but I've never seen/heard of a brand like this (could it have been an "Easy?". I'm sure they had to disguise the name of the machine.
Anyone else have any ideas?
Thanks,
Todd
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Post# 28885-4/13/2003-01:13 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Friday's #28859 "POD" Comment:
MESSAGE: I think we all slip like that. We sometimes forget that what we say can hurt someone else. I certainly was not hurt by that post. But I can definitely understand why someone else may have been. This is a very polite group of people. And I must say it is much better than the vac forums. (You should see the wars going on there!) I am also glad for all the talk about washers. I like sitting back and reading the very interesting comments. And at the same time, I am learning a lot about vintage washers. Whereas on the vacuum forums, there is no polite chat about vacuums, or anything of importance. In my opinion Steve, your post was an innocent slip up.
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Post# 28886-4/13/2003-02:37 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Friday's #28859 "POD" Comment: (Re: Thank You Kurt:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Kurt, thank you very much for your reply and feelings/opinion too. That made me feel a whole lot better, now if I can get accepted by the particular person that I wrote personally to, I will certainly be a whole lot more careful from now on. It certainly isn't my intent to hurt or upset anyone in Posting or anyway or anyplace else ever. Thank you for you kindness towards my appology and effort.
Kind Regards to all my Club Friends, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 28887-4/13/2003-09:59 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: RE: Wish me A LOT of luck today!
MESSAGE: hope you are doing O.K.
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Post# 28888-4/13/2003-11:02 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Friday's #28859 "POD" Comment:
MESSAGE: Kurt, if you haven't already, I recommend you visit the new forum at VACCC.com. It is going to be under very close scrutiny to eliminate goings on of other forums.
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Post# 28889-4/13/2003-11:29 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Dash POD/58 Lady K
MESSAGE: I'm just wondering if anyone has been able to tell, from what little you see of it in this picture, what brand of automatic this nice lady has.
I'm also wondering if anyone has ever seen this 58 Lady K currently in my background close-up. I don't think I have ever seen one.
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Post# 28890-4/13/2003-11:34 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Dash POD/58 Lady K
MESSAGE: I'm also trying to figure out who made the washer. The really cool thing is that it looks like they removed the lid. Wouldn't it be nice if washers really came that way? Talk about a GREAT way to check out the action. ;-)
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Post# 28891-4/13/2003-11:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Dash POD/58 Lady K
MESSAGE: Hi Scott, The washer in the POD is a Whirlpool Imperial - just like the one GregM found a while ago. We've had other PODs with this machine too. Dash also used a lower end model of the WP line in an ad I have. I think this was 1956 or 1957...
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Post# 28892-4/13/2003-12:36 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dash POD/58 Lady K
MESSAGE: Oh ok, thanks...I will have to look at a picture of it the front way now, and will probably see the resemblance from there.
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Post# 28893-4/13/2003-12:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dash POD/58 Lady K
MESSAGE: ....certainly is a good machine to be using low suds detergent with, LOL. Now that you say Whirlpool, I see the little catch in front for the pushbutton lid.
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Post# 28894-4/13/2003-13:44 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Friday's #28859 "POD" Comment:
MESSAGE: Actually I have checked that forum out. That is the VCCC's wesite (finally they got one:-) I talked to the web designer (Charlie) and he said that they won't take any type of bashing or anything like that. I think it will be more like this forum. (That is a good thing)
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Post# 28895-4/13/2003-13:54 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Dash POD/58 Lady K
MESSAGE: My mother had a 58 Lady Kenmore,and it looked a lot like Roberts (Unimatic) 57 Lady Kenmore,that he restored from the farm.I know moms was a 58 because the date was on the transmition.She also had a 54 Kenmore (that I was tramatized by ,as I witnessed the unbalanced thing chase her around the basement a time or two) It also had the date on its transmition.(1954) I was glad to see that one go! It would go out of balance often,and maked the most freakish noises! Like I said,I was afraid of that one,and as a young boy of 5,refered to it as "the mean machine"When we got rid of it and got the 58,was when I started to "make friends" with washing machines. It's been true love ever since. (-:
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Post# 28896-4/13/2003-14:15 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Dash POD/58 Lady K
MESSAGE: Those vintage Kenmores were beasts when they went out of balance. I don't know why your 54 Kenmore always went out of balance (different design?) But I still remember we had a couple pillows in the belt drive and that thing went off balance bad! It is so bad because, as someone else mentioned, almost everything in the washer hangs off three rods and swings. (with the snubber absorbing some vibration and shaking) But when all this weight is off balance, it is amazing the whole washer doesn't just tip over! It didn't but it was pretty much jumping up and down and making huge banging noises. (scary)
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Post# 28897-4/13/2003-14:34 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Dash POD/58 Lady K
MESSAGE: They looked the same inside,as does my 61 Whirlpool. I watched my dad dismantal the 54 for spare parts for the 58. He alway's did his own service work on our appiances. That is how I saw the dates on the transmitions .I think the 58 had a buzzer or something,when it was out of balance.The 54 didn't have anything like that. It would jump,bang,clang and hammer,and even tip back and forth! Then it would start "walking" away from the wall.Once it even unplugged itself!That is the only way it would stop. (no safety) I hated to go near it!
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Post# 28898-4/13/2003-14:53 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Dash POD/58 Lady K
MESSAGE: Yeah your 58 must have had the out of balance switch. (it buzzes and stops the machine.) I wonder why the 54 always went out of balance? Our belt drive kenmore only went out of balance a couple times. (with the pillows and maybe a couple other times that I remember.) We always caught the Kenmore before it walked too far. (it only walked out about a foot, not close to unplugging itself:-) But it made such a racket that it is impossible to not notice the out of balance washer. (the bangs were so loud!)
So far, the new Kenmore hasn't been out of balance. (I did find the source of the exsessive vibration. The rear cabinet sides were loose, not because they weren't locked in, but because the whole cabinet somehow shifted forward and was really loose.)
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Post# 28899-4/13/2003-19:04 ||| Washitaw (Tulsa)
SUBJECT: KenMore Model 110. 82980120 Heavy Duty 80 Series
MESSAGE: My washer works just fine but it has a leak. I looked under the bottom and found two water hoses. One before and one after the pump. I can see no obvious leaks, however I had to empty it to be able to turn it on its side to inspect it. Should I replace both hoses? How else can I tell which one may be leaking? Please help me, I cannot find any way to see the hoses while it is full of water. Make me the hero for my wife whom is currently hospitalized. steve.olin@verizon.net
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Post# 28900-4/13/2003-20:35 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: KenMore Model 110. 82980120 Heavy Duty 80 Series
MESSAGE: This isn't really a repair site, but I like helping people with washer troubles:-) Anywho, your washer is direct drive. (based on the model #, the washer was made in 1989, making it direct drive.) The hoses are probably fine. But the pump often leaks on the direct drive Kenmore's (when there is a leak.) Go here.
www.american-appliance.com
and go to the repair pages, then get to the washer pages, then get to the whirlpool/kenmore direct drive pages. Then look at the pictures showing removal of the pump. It may be difficult to remove the pump (since it may have rusted itself to the motor shaft, meaning you probably have to smash the pump off the motor. Don't mess up the motor bearings though, so don't use too much force. Just take a flat blade screwdriver, place it on the pump where the motor shaft goes it and pound it lightly with a hammer until the plastic cracks, then pull the pump off.) Then take the hoses off (have a big bucket ready for the water in the bottom of the tub and the hoses.) Then put the hoses on the new pump and put the pump on like the old one was.
(I hope you do have a direct drive:-)
To make sure you have a direct drive, look at the back, does it have a grey access panel? If no, then follow the above procedure. But if it DOES have the grey access panel, then forget what I said above and email me at
kurt_dixon150@hotmail.com
so we can take this "off topic" discussion off this forum.
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Post# 28901-4/13/2003-21:15 ||| washitaw (Tulsa)
SUBJECT: RE: KenMore Model 110. 82980120 Heavy Duty 80 Series (reply to reply)
MESSAGE: Ok
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Post# 28902-4/13/2003-21:29 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dash POD/58 Lady K
MESSAGE: Thanks Rick for that description, and great story. :-)
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Post# 28903-4/14/2003-00:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid!
MESSAGE: Hi all - the weekend was warm and beautiful here and I spent a good part of it with my head in the dishwasher! The drying fan wouldn't stop running on my 5 year old Asko dishwasher a couple of weeks ago so I decided it was time for a vintage machine. Since I need a "workhorse" in my kitchen, I'm giving a Kitchen Aid KDS-18 a try. I bought parts on Thursday for one I found at my local Launderall Dealer's a year ago. I replaced the motor shaft seal, drain pump impeller, drain and fill valves with new parts and used the upper rack from a KDS-19 (for a better wash arm) the heater (1100 watts) lower wash arm and new lower rack from a KDS-17 that was with the pink GE appliances I found last fall. I have a new wash arm support and circulation impeller on the way, just to make it perfect. I also had brand new (old stock) white front panels to give that 'just out of the box' look. It turned out very nice and I think I'll be happy with the performance. I always thought these were such classy looking machines in the late 70's and always wanted one - now I have it!
On our compulsory Saturday trip to Lowes, we found a fun toy for the garage behind the store. I love shopping for appliances behind Lowes - everything is free and they have a very liberal return/exchange policy! I posted pics of the dishwasher and my Lowes bonus - hope everyone had a great weekend!
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Misc.+Fun&.src=ph&.dnm=Kitchen+Aid+KDS18.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Misc.%2bFun%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 28904-4/14/2003-00:37 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid!
MESSAGE: This is great! Looks like I'm coming to visit just in time. That dishwasher will be fabulous in the kitchen with the vintage Frigidaire range and that wonderful Bendix refrigerator of yours! ;-)
That must be the original Neptune 3000, since it has a timer dial, I'm guessing? Does it work?
Talk to you in the next couple days!
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Post# 28905-4/14/2003-00:43 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid!
MESSAGE: One of my friends has a Neppy similar to that, with the mechanical timer and pushbuttons. I don't know the various Neppy incarnations to place it exactly.
I always loved the KA Superbas. Mine is sorta vintage, sorta not, but I think it still has a kinda "classy" look. :-)
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Post# 28906-4/14/2003-01:01 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid!
MESSAGE: Salutations Gansky!
That style Neptune is still on sale in Australia. It has only just now been dicontinured and the MAV7550 should be in stores soon.
I dont know why Maytag dont offer a mechanical control and an electronic Neptune for people who prefer eithr congifuration.
My friends bought a Neptune like the model you "bought" this weekend and they really do love it.
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Post# 28907-4/14/2003-01:06 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Oh wow!
An Australian Picture of the Day!
I must say I am chuffed!
Have a grand day!
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Post# 28908-4/14/2003-02:16 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid!
MESSAGE: Nice finds Greg, I love that KitchenAid dishwasher. You are right, they look classic and classy!
Did you have any space left for the Neptune, or is that one ending up in a guest room? ;-)
Louis
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Post# 28909-4/14/2003-02:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid!
MESSAGE: Of which visit we expect pictures ofcourse.....
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Post# 28910-4/14/2003-02:46 ||| sharon (Calfornia)
SUBJECT: Need to sell
MESSAGE: I would like to sell a few items but have no clue of their value.
I was having a yard sale when a gentlemen approached me about the vaule of this sewing machine (1916) which I had priced at $75.00
He said that I needed to ck the market value before I sold my Antiques the sewing machine alone is vauled @ 500.00 on ebay. Some of the other items I couldn't find. Is there a book that I can ck out to find the value of each item? Any suggestion? Thank you
LINK: http://sharontea4@cs,com
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Post# 28911-4/14/2003-04:14 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: TL Maytag Neptune (Welcome back to the 50s)
MESSAGE: Not only that, but we are finally back to the days when cabinet and control panel design have more flair to them: witness the newest Maytags and Whirlpools
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Post# 28912-4/14/2003-05:57 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid! (Greg, Sounds like A fun Weekend!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Thanks for your pictures. Your Kitchen Aid Looks great! When you get it all done, tell us what you think about it. I love the sounds the older Kitchen Aid Dishwashers make. I really like the timer sounds when it advances to the Rinse only selection.
Wow, that Neptune is in great looking shape. I love the controls on those. Did you give it a test to see what is wrong with it? It is very nice looking. Do tell.
Have a great week!
Brent
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Post# 28913-4/14/2003-07:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid!
MESSAGE: True, there is no space for this downstairs! I think it may stay in the garage for now, perhaps I'll find someone who wants one...
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Post# 28914-4/14/2003-07:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid! (Greg, Sounds like A fun Weekend!)
MESSAGE: Thanks guys - the Kitchen Aid should be a lot of fun. I've always thought the sounds and the clicking of the timer were so cool.
The Neptune is a first generation 3000 series, and it nice condition. No mold around the door boot, but it does have a suspension issue to deal with. During spin, it knocks against the door so I'll have to find repair info to check it out. I did a load of rags and it will handle quite a large load and it did spin OK, just a little banging around until it got up to full speed.
Have a good Monday! Greg
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Post# 28915-4/14/2003-08:25 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid! (Greg, Sounds like A fun Weekend! (Shock))
MESSAGE: Sounds like there is really not much wrong.
I have heard that the shocks that work under the tub were going out in the fist generation Neptunes. I am sure that would not be that hard to replace.
Sounds like a great machine. I wonder if it was a demo machine. I talked to a guy at Lowes that told me that they end up trashing most of the display machines because they get dropped often at the store. He said it was just a matter of being there at the right time.
I guess the guys at Lowes that move stuff around are not very graceful.
Brent
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Post# 28916-4/14/2003-09:00 ||| Gewasherguy (Cabot, Arkansas)
SUBJECT: Vacuum Clearner
MESSAGE: I recently purchased a vacuum from Sears and it works perfectly as far as cleaning ability etc....but with one issue that is becoming worse. The vacuum has a horrible odor during use. It was brand new and in a box. It there any solution to the problem. I am thinking perhaps someone else has experienced this problem (perhaps with a older used one that someone has restored :)). My partner says the whole house smells like "stinky feet" after it is run. LOL. Any help would be appreciated.
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Post# 28917-4/14/2003-10:36 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: My first date with Mini
MESSAGE: A couple of weeks ago I acquired a GE washer and dryer. The washer has a mini basket setting but no mini basket, filter or fabric softener dispenser. When I asked about these, the couple had no clue what I was talking about. Wouldn't you wonder what was up with the "mini basket setting" or why water was pouring over the side of the agitator cap? I have to remember that some folks could care a less, and probably never saw the machine in operation with the lid up. Anyways, last Friday I picked up another GE washer that had all of the toys I wanted for the other machine plus the owners manual. I have never used GE before, but this morning I gave them a try. I was very impressed with the mini basket-it has great turn over, even when full. So fun to watch, and what a great way to start off Mon (or in my case "wash day!) After all that fun, I hung clothes out on the line for the first time. Cheers to you all, Happy Spring!! Don
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Post# 28918-4/14/2003-10:41 ||| Dick_S. (Palm Springs vicinity)
SUBJECT: RE: Dash POD/58 Lady K
MESSAGE: Hi Scott! Your message sparked something in me bringing back some of the most memorable childhood experiences I ever had. I've never heard of anyone being the least bit interested in a 58 LK, and if you read my "wish list" you'll see that I desire one of those very much!!! Now, if I can "bend" your ear for a minute, I'll relate just one ((--:: experience with a 58 LK.
Each summer, starting in 55 and lasting thru 60 my aunt and uncle would drive down from Carson City Nevada to San Francisco and pick me up and I would stay with them for the entire 3 month summer school break. I loved getting out of the city and spending time with my aunt. She was so cool. She smoked Tareyton cigarettes, snapped Denteyne gum, wore those full skirts that made a rustling noise when she walked in her spiked heels with the anklet straps and she always "reeked" of Chantilly. (And so did my Mom.) AND she drove a 55 pink and gray 265 Bel Air Chev which memsmorize me. I loved her. Know I'm digressing a bit here and will get to the point.
The summer of 58 I walk into her kitchen which was all gleaming, white metal cabinets and sparkling linoleum and here between two of them stands a beautiful new 58 Cycla Fabric LK. Her next door neighbor had talked her into getting one. Her neighbor had a 57 LK and loved it.
I was always "right there" when my aunt Dorothy would mention that she was going to "do a wash". I would try not to act all that interested and excited about the fact, but would feel myself tremble with anticipation as I stood next to the machine and watched her every move.
She would turn the gold timer knob which would move the plastic band on I guess rollers around to the blue or was it orange (I think it was orange) "Normal cycle" and start the fill. The white basket would light up, the new shiny black roto swirl agitator would start moving and the hot water would start misting the plastic panel on the lighted console. The "new" smell of the machine was awesome. I will never forget it.
She would then pour unspeakable amounts of Tide into that machine to be followed up by almost pints to quarts of Purex (not Clorox) bleach. I loved the fragrance of both (we used the same at home) but with the amounts she used the smell (and I use "smell" and not "fragrance" when something is unpleasant)was very pungent and irritating to the nostrils.
I used to stay close by and listen to that familiar Kenmore whir during agitation (I still hum it to myself) and sometimes watch suds go all over the linoleum that had streamed down the inside of the washer cabinet. I'd listen to it go thru that familiar "suds lock" only to recoup itself after the deep rinse. AND I'd watch my aunt take out my uncle's white shirts with suds still remaining all over the lid and surfaces of the top. I will have to say he went to work every morning with the most beautiful starched white shirts I have ever seen!
Some years ago I was able to get my hands on a similar 55 Bel Air like she used to drive-NOW, all I have to do is hunt down the 58 Cycla Fabric and I'll be a most happy camper!I should be content with the 60 Cycla Fabric that Mom bought in late 59 but I still want that 58. I'm a greedy one. ((--::
Thanks for listening Scott
Dick
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Post# 28919-4/14/2003-11:27 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: TL Maytag Neptune (Welcome back to ugly)
MESSAGE: Ugly plastic flair... Give me chrome and glass!
-ph
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Post# 28920-4/14/2003-11:30 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid!
MESSAGE: Yes Your Majesty, pictures will of course be forthcoming! It is the plan that I will visit the Corn Princess the first weekend in May. The Kenmore wringer washer already resides in the guest room, but I'm going to push it into the laundry room, to try it out!
QEOM
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Post# 28921-4/14/2003-11:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Dash POD/58 Lady K
MESSAGE: Thank you for that fun story, Dick! Memories like that are such fun. Sounds like this machine has a different type of timer than the 57. My great aunt had an RCA Whirlpool from right about then, that had a setup like that. That was a fun machine too, and she still had it and her 1948 Westinghouse dryer, when she sold the house. It was fun and unusual for me to watch, because it had a suds saver, and because for me it was "different" because I was used to Frigidaire. She had originally had the Westinghouse Laundromat washer too, but got the RCA Whirlpool before I was born. She was the only one of the sisters that for whatever reason did not have Frigidaire washers. She did have Frigidaire kitchen appliances though.
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Post# 28922-4/14/2003-11:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Vacuum Clearner (another for the sandbox)
MESSAGE: Have a look...
-ph
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/messages
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Post# 28923-4/14/2003-11:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: KenMore Model 110. 82980120 Heavy Duty 80 Series (non-classic repairs)
MESSAGE: I posted some help in the sandbox...
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/messages
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Post# 28924-4/14/2003-11:54 ||| Ironrite (Las Vegas NV)
SUBJECT: Purex/Doberman
MESSAGE: After reading previous posts regarding the Purex tabs, I tried them in my Frigidaire F/L. I was very surprised that with about a 30 minute soak they removed blood stains from my sheets and pillowcases, that my teething, 5 month Dobie puppy chewed on! Even with his favorite toys, he eats anything that's not bolted down.
My question is...is the regular Purex, either powered or liquid the same formula as the tabs as far as cleaning power goes? The partner here, doesn't care for the tabs, but I like the cleaning power. If the subject/question is too new, then replying in the Sandbox is ok! Thanks guys!
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Post# 28925-4/14/2003-11:58 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid! (weekends)
MESSAGE: That's funny. I wonder if the 3000's are "coming into season." Jason and I found a Neppy this weekend too, but it remained where found, along with a rough Maytag A807S (did get the chrome filter out of it), a really nice GE Americana Sensatronic dryer (still might come home), an early KM electronic/touch-panel dryer, and a Wards Signature 9-cycle washer with a big burp-up lint filter and monster softener dispenser.
I also found $2.75 in silver quarters from 1939-1963 in one of my laundromat washer coin boxes! I hope that's a sign that lots of old washers will be found this Spring!
-ph
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Post# 28926-4/14/2003-12:15 ||| tumbleaction (North Las Vegas, NV)
SUBJECT: Surf "Spring Burst" tabs
MESSAGE: I'm not really a tablet person, but I bought a box of Surf "Spring Burst" tablets because they were on sale at my local Food-4-Less. I must say I'm really impressed by the cleaning power and the crisp scent. I have a Frigidaire front-loader and the tablets don't seem to suds a whole lot, either. I looked at the ingredients, and these tabs contain enzymes and sodium perborate--probably why they clean so well. Any of you guyz into these Surf tablets? I think I'm a convert.
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Post# 28927-4/14/2003-12:42 ||| gewasherguy (Cabot, Arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: Vacuum Clearner (another for the sandbox)
MESSAGE: The link does not work.
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Post# 28928-4/14/2003-13:22 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Vacuum Clearner (another for the sandbox)
MESSAGE: What are you getting when you click on it? If you go back to our HOME page, then re-enter Applianceville, the link is there in the white section at the bottom of the screen before you click on any post.
-ph
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Post# 28929-4/14/2003-14:29 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid!
MESSAGE: Hi Greg
Glad to see the Kitchen Aid getting a new lease of life, certainly look sturdy machines...are the wash times quicker than the Asko??...does it have a water softener built in???
Pity the electric stores here dont leave bargains like the Neppy around the back..
Would be interested to know if you can FEEL the difference between washing spun from the Neptune and the GE Filter Flow??
Happy washing
Mike
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Post# 28930-4/14/2003-14:33 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid! (Laundry Magic)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott
And dont forget the Maytag twinny!!!and now the Neptune as well as the latest Filter Flows...No sleep for you...
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 28931-4/14/2003-15:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid! (Laundry Magic)
MESSAGE: Yes and heaven knows what else that's been added that I've forgotten about, since I was there last! You just reminded me of the GE!
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Post# 28932-4/14/2003-15:18 ||| gewasherguy (Cabot, Arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: Vacuum Clearner (another for the sandbox)
MESSAGE: Never mind...found the answer to my question.
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Post# 28933-4/14/2003-15:23 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: Need any Help finding parts ?? I need help locating a water bellows
MESSAGE: Hey guys
When Steve and Rhinnie visited we got the water bellows off since Steve had his handi dandi tool to do this it was so great
I think I have exhausted every aspect of charleston and outlying areas
I am in search of a Water bellows for my frigidaire jet action. While I was out on the search for this part I came across a supply place that had me going for hours. In this old warehouse were vintage parts for Westinghouse, Frigidaire from 1950 on up Norge, Maytag,GE ,Kenmore so let me know if your looking for Switches, timers .. seal.. spin tubes belts AGITATORS all brand new.
This warehouse is arranged by parts numbers so that is a super plus if you have those handy.
Thanks Guys
Philippe
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Post# 28934-4/14/2003-15:40 ||| lbcarguy (Long Beach, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Lucy's washer (lucy's washer)
MESSAGE: Hi,
Jimmy (filterflo) and I have discussed this many times. Jimmy, being the expert that he is, thinks they took a generic looking machine and stuck some letters on the front. We froze the frame and it does look like EPERNAY. The machine was most likely just a prop so they could rig a hose to spray water out the top and to bounce around easily.
Jimmy and I have both met the writers of the show and I once asked them about the toaster operation, where the toast launches into the air, on how they thought up the idea. They really had no exact answer, just it was an idea they thought would be funny. The writing team never had a notion that the shows would be watched over and over, and still playing 50 years later. To them, it was a job they had at the time and they had to think up something funny for Lucy and the gang to do every week so they would get paid and not fired. In hindsight, they did a fantastic job! If you watch other great shows, like All in the Family, you see some of the same writers names in the credits!
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Post# 28935-4/14/2003-15:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Vacuum Clearner (Applianceville-Sandbox linking)
MESSAGE: Peter,
Only members of the Applianceville-Sandbox can use the link you posted. If you want others to be able to use the link as well you must link to the homepage.
Only through the homepage you can subscribe to the Sandbox. It's best to create a Yahoo ID first if you haven't got one. There is another way to subscribe (by sending a mail) but that doesn't give you the possibility to set preferences for receiving mail etc.
Greetz,
Louis
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Post# 28936-4/14/2003-16:25 ||| COLDSPOT66 (South of Boston, Mass)
SUBJECT: RE: Need any Help finding parts ?? I need help locating a water bellows
MESSAGE: Hi Phillippe,
I have a water bellows that may fit your washer. I think it is for a 1-18 machine. Part # is 5433576. I also have the snap ring also. Let me know if you can use it. My email is in my profile.
ttyl,
john
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Post# 28937-4/14/2003-16:25 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Vacuum Clearner (Applianceville-Sandbox linking)
MESSAGE: But it is the same link? I thought the sandbox allowed everyone to read. Oops...
-ph
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Post# 28938-4/14/2003-16:29 ||| fixit (NE Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: Need any Help finding parts ?? I need help locating a water bellows (Re: Water bellows)
MESSAGE: Hi y'all,
The 5433576 was for the *pre* '1-18', solid-tub Frigidaires. I just listed our very last 638860 bellows for the 1-18's on the classifieds. That's the one you need if you have a perf-tub washer. eBay URL's listed below.
God bless,
Dave Harnish
Dave's Repair Service
New Albany, PA
drs@sosbbs.com
570-363-2404
Our Free Monthly Appliance Tips Newsletter:
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LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20714&item=2317437459&rd=1
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Post# 28939-4/14/2003-16:32 ||| fixit (NE Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: Need any Help finding parts ?? I need help locating a water bellows (Vintage Parts Warehouse?)
MESSAGE: Hi Philippe,
Hey, we'd love to know more about that warehouse you mentioned. Where is it? And do they have a website?
Thanks much!
God bless,
Dave Harnish
Dave's Repair Service
New Albany, PA
drs@sosbbs.com
570-363-2404
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Post# 28940-4/14/2003-16:51 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: Old verses New Kitchen Aid dishwasher
MESSAGE: 6 months ago my Kitchen Aid (by Hobart) started to make noises like it was possesed. I quickly sent my husband for a new one. It is not as good as my old one, BIG TIME, The new SS in & out, fully hidden controls cost huge $$ and then I redescovered Vintage dishwashers . Bad Timing, I could have had anything I wanted or could have found & had $$ left over. I miss my old Kitchen Aid. Oh sure this one is pretty & you can not hear it when it is on BUT the new drying method stinks. I have the jet dry dial set at 5 & the hot water tank set on full blast & my old machine did a far better job drying. I also have a GE power shower ,impeller wash, the interm between impeller wash & pump wash, that does a far better job drying. Some day I hope to find a Westinghouse or GE built in top load impeller wash for our breakfast bar. Just wanted to share my "Kitchen Aid " thoughts with you. Michael
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Post# 28941-4/14/2003-16:55 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Need any Help finding parts ?? I need help locating a water bellows (Vintage Parts Warehouse?)
MESSAGE: Vintage Parts warehouse is not on line right now I am trying to gain his trust and maybe put it on line so that I can help him find homes for most of these parts. They do not even have a computer so they have not a clue of what they have in stock
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Post# 28942-4/14/2003-17:02 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Vacuum Clearner (Applianceville-Sandbox linking)
MESSAGE: The direct link to the sandbox message area goes to the screen for logging in with a Yahoo ID. If you have your ID saved as a cookie on your computer, it will auto log in and you see the messages, without having to go through the log-in screen itself.
This link goes to the opening page of the sandbox, but messages still cannot be read without logging in.
Applianceville-Sandbox at Yahoo
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Post# 28943-4/14/2003-17:13 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Old verses New Kitchen Aid dishwasher (did not replace My KA either )
MESSAGE: My Kitchen Aid Superba lasted for 12 years before it gave up the motor I should have kept it but did not have the bug as bad thinking I could buy a new one well... Much to my suprise they had bastardized the new ones like Mike talks about and I installed my garage/Party dishwasher in the house instead. by sheer luck I came across an ASKO 1805 intergrated dishwasher at salvation army for 10.00 and after some cleaning, changing the lightbulb and new rack glide gaskets 14.00 total I have the best dishwasher I have ever had. It heats its own water from a cold water start so I am able to turn down the hot water heater again to levels that are human.
I even complained to Kitchen Aid about thier new drying system and they bascially told me to go away that no one has complained about them yet LOL. Now I am on the search for another superba to rebuild and keep as a spare.
Philippe
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Post# 28944-4/14/2003-17:14 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Vacuum Clearner
MESSAGE: Which brand is it? Usually the plastic stinks when it gets warm. The smell goes away after use. (Is this a Dyson?)
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Post# 28945-4/14/2003-17:27 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Lucy's washer (lucy's washer)
MESSAGE: Ahh, All in the Family. I love that show:-) Two different episodes get played each day of the week. I have watched all the reruns that the channel puts out. (they start repeating once they go through them all.)
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Post# 28946-4/14/2003-17:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid! (Greg, Sounds like A fun Weekend! (Shock))
MESSAGE: I'm shocked sometimes at the damage I see that was inflicted on all those fragile, frail appliances on the sales floor! I was in the appliance department a couple of weeks ago watching them assemble a drawer pedestal for a Duet when they nearly dropped it. Good work boys - I'll meet you at the back door with my van...
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Post# 28947-4/14/2003-17:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Vacuum Clearner (Applianceville-Sandbox linking)
MESSAGE: Well, that was when the Yahoo clubs still existed. With the groups things are different. If you're not a member all you can see is a homepage without messages. They want you to sign up. Preferably to a Yahoo account ofcourse.
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Post# 28948-4/14/2003-17:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: My first date with Mini
MESSAGE: Isn't the mini basket fun?? Glad you are enjoying them - did you ever find out what year they are? I love the sloshing spin drain and the rythmic tranny sounds. I've hung wash out several times this spring, I love the fragrance!
Greg
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Post# 28949-4/14/2003-17:48 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid!
MESSAGE: It's ready to go, all your washing will be on the line double quick!
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Post# 28950-4/14/2003-17:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid! (weekends)
MESSAGE: Sounds like you saw a lot too - I absolutely didn't have room in the garage to bring home more toys, but there were a few things that intrigued me.
Last week, there was a super capacity/wide mouth GE dryer at the thrift store that had the sensor plate attached at the bottom of the door vent instead of in front of the filter mount, never had seen that before. The dryer was rough and electric so only a passing curiosity.
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Post# 28951-4/14/2003-17:57 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: Archey's washer
MESSAGE: Ya'll got me thinking about "all in the family". I can remember the washers on all the other shows from the 50/60&70's, but can't remember Edith's. I remember the basement and their furnace, but don't remember w/d. Anyone got an idea?
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Post# 28952-4/14/2003-18:07 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Archey's washer (was it Maytag?)
MESSAGE: I think it was Maytag.
The Jukebox in Kelsey's bar is a Rock-Ola.
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Post# 28953-4/14/2003-18:08 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Archey's washer
MESSAGE: I don't remember seeing one either. In the show it is known that they have one, but I don't think we ever see it. I remember the one episode when it broke down (but we never saw it!) Then Edith went to the laudramat to wash Archie's favorite shirt from Disney Land, along with other clothes of course. She is about to put the load in the Maytag commercial (looks the same as the current Maytag commercials, except it is a darker shade of that "bisque" color.) and a guy comes up and rips Archie's favorite shirt. Then the rest of the episode she goes and stars in a commercial but can't lie and say her brand of detergent is worse then the commercial producer's. They still get some money and Edith decides that they need a new washer. (of course the episode is done and we don't see her selection:-)
The only other "old" show I watch (it is rather new, 80s and 90s) is Roseanne, hehe. I like Archie better, but oh well. The Conner's have a pair of old Maytags as well. One episode is where they are trying to sell the pair. This is the episode when the salesman drops dead at their kitchen table. Of course the people about to buy the Maytags are a little suspicious of the "sleeping Uncle"
Old shows are great:-)
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Post# 28954-4/14/2003-18:33 ||| korpben2000 (warren,pa)
SUBJECT: hi i need some advice
MESSAGE: hello all you appliance people,i need some help on my maytag washer it's about a early 90's model and the model# is LAT500AAW and the problem is that about 5 months ago it wouldn't fill up with water when i turned it on and there was no buzzing noise anymore that went to the water inlet valve and i replaced that and it still didn't get any power but the washer will run. i fill it up with the hoses and it washes and spins just fine but it won't there is no buzzing noise,can any of you tell me whats wrong and can it be replaced.
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Post# 28955-4/14/2003-18:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid!
MESSAGE: Hi! Let's just say the KitchenAid is a treat for all the senses that fortunately doesn't last too long. The normal cycle on the Asko was roughly 85 minutes and the KA is 66 with dry. The actual time the machine is operating with water is about 38 minutes. It is considerably louder than I'm used to, even though I wrapped it in dense foam. People used to marvel at the low noise level of the Asko, I guess those days are over but it's a fun tradeoff just the same.
I don't know of any American machines that have ever offered water softeners built in, unless there was one very early on. It would be a good idea, but never caught on here. I have a water softener for the whole house, which I couldn't live without, so I have the benefits at every tap.
Depending on the type of load, the GE washer can leave things little better than a wringer would and the rags I did in the "knew kid on the block" Sunday were spun pretty well on first impression.
Greg
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Post# 28956-4/14/2003-18:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Need any Help finding parts ?? I need help locating a water bellows
MESSAGE: Is this a 1-18 '70's or a solid tub 60's washer? The water bellows are different parts depending on the type of washer you have.
Sounds great about your parts store find - keep us posted on the progress there, too bad they didn't have the bellows you needed!
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Post# 28957-4/14/2003-19:23 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: hi i need some advice
MESSAGE: Check the timer and water level switch.
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Post# 28958-4/14/2003-19:29 ||| Fnelson487 (St. Charles, Il)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid!
MESSAGE: Hi! I am new to posting to this forum but have been following it for a while and love it! I am following the posts on the KitchenAid KDS-18 and can really relate. In moving back to Illinois, I purchased one of the new KitchenAid Superbas with hidden controls and all SS. I too do not like the drying and have always had a KitchenAid Superba (models 17, 18, 20, 21 and 23). The 21 was good but my all time favorite was the first I bought - the KDS17. It doesn't have the upper wash arm but boy that machine can wash and dry.
I finally found a great KDS-17 in Palm Springs CA on Ebay, bought it and had it shipped back. It literally came like brand new, a new door gasket and tank seal and the machine is like new. It probably was used only seasonally if at all in the desert. It is louder than the new machines but boy does it wash. I love the continuous hum of the motor which doesn't stop. And those dishes come out clean and dry! And what a classy look, and built like a Sherman Tank! Thanks for letting me spout off. Now to find a '57 LK and a KitchenAid top-loading portable!
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Post# 28959-4/14/2003-19:47 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: hi i need some advice (Maytag Washer Water Valve not working:)
MESSAGE: There might be a loose or broken wire between the Water Valve and the Temp Controls on the Console, not allowing the proper connection of Electricity from one to the other.
I had a similar situation recently, of not allowing Hot Water to fill, but the old parts ended up being "self-fixing" and I ended up with a new Water Valve. I took the old Valve out and put the new one in, still not entering Hot Water. I took the Console apart to check the Temp Push-Buttons, wired it back and checked again and it started working and is still working to this day. This has been at least 3-months ago too. "Another Maytag," keeping us "Lonely" practically forever. A Friend bought a Maytag on E-Bay that needed a Water Valve, so I sold it to him, everyone's "Happy" now. Best of luck, let us know what you find out and there are many here to give advise and help each other out with these and other Washer and Dryer problems, besides other Appliances too.
Kind Regards, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 28960-4/14/2003-19:55 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: "FYI" Members by Profile's
MESSAGE: "FYI" Has anyone realized yet, that we need one more to sign up on a Profile and we will have 500-Member Profile's?
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Post# 28961-4/14/2003-20:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: GE Outdoor Range/grill
MESSAGE: This is a neat item. An electric range on one side, grill on the other, on a cart with an umbrella!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2317335248&category=20723
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Post# 28962-4/14/2003-20:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Outdoor Range/grill
MESSAGE: This is too cool - what a fun accessory for a barbeque party.
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Post# 28963-4/14/2003-20:53 ||| COLDSPOT66 (South of Boston, Mass)
SUBJECT: RE: hi i need some advice
MESSAGE: Hope this helps:
I beleive that these maytags have a lid switch assy that consists of a lid switch, a check switch (microswitch) and a fuse inline with the water valve. If the check switch does not close or open, depending on if the lid is open or closed, it will blow the fuse and not let any water enter. the fuse is not available separately, you have to buy the whole assy which is part # 22001682. I think it retails for about $20.00. Good Luck
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Post# 28964-4/14/2003-21:09 ||| korpben2000 (warren,pa)
SUBJECT: RE: hi i need some advice (my maytag advice)
MESSAGE: thank you guys for the advice,um i was told about that lid switch that could be the problem and the pressure switch and the timer,but i wanna know the problem so i won't spend alot of money replacing something that don't need fixed if you know what i mean,but keep me posted for more advice hey were here to help each other.and plus washers and dryers rule!!!!
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Post# 28965-4/14/2003-22:50 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: My first date with Mini
MESSAGE: One is from 81, the other 84. Both in great shape.
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Post# 28966-4/14/2003-23:26 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: hi i need some advice (my maytag advice)
MESSAGE: Do you happen to have an ohm meter? If you don't, don't worry about it.
So either the wiring, timer, lid switch, or water level switch is the trouble. First make sure the wiring is all connected properly. My next suspision would be the timer. (Since the washer still agitates fine and spins fine, I "think" the lid switch would be okay, I am not certain though.) The water level switch may be the trouble but you said it trips over when the water fills up? (when you just put the hose in the washer basket and fill it up that way right?) So that is a little less likely. I would take a look at the timer first. (But don't replace it first, they are a little expensive.)
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Post# 28967-4/14/2003-23:33 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid!
MESSAGE: Greg, nice pics of the KDS, I'd love more panel detail pics as well as the interior (with a dish load in it???). What's wrong with Neppy--circuit boards or bearing?
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Post# 28968-4/14/2003-23:38 ||| korpben2000 (warren,pa)
SUBJECT: RE: hi i need some advice (my maytag advice)
MESSAGE: thanks for the advice kurt,yes i checked all the wires and it still won't make no buzzing noise and the pressure switch does work when i fill up the basket and i know timers are a little expensive but i might have to replace that and hope that's the problem,so thanks again.
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Post# 28969-4/15/2003-02:24 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Next Time, Buy A Kitchen Aid! (Welcome!)
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club. It's great to find a treasure like that. Hope you will find those others too!
Louis
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Post# 28970-4/15/2003-02:30 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Older Amana Washer:
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friends, I was at some Friend's Daughters place a couple of weekends ago and they had an older Amana T/L Washer with the Solid Tub and a Left-Opening Lid. Does anyone know approx. what year it might be? I wrote the Friend's Daughter asking if {hopfully not too soon} if something should happen to it, could I get it from them, when they might have to replace it. I haven't heard back from her yet, but I'm sure she will let me have the Washer later on. She had a newer Kenmore Dryer, that was about a Mid-'80s and it had the emblem on the Lower Access Panel, indicating Gas, but I didn't for some reason check the Dryer out as much as I was interested in the Washer. I would appreciate any and all info about the Amana Washer.
My best to everyone, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 28971-4/15/2003-05:50 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Older Amana Washer:
MESSAGE: My guess is that the older Amana washer you describe is from the early 80's. I believe that is when Amana introduced their washers which were actually Speed Queens as both companies were owned by Raytheon.
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Post# 28972-4/15/2003-07:59 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: How exactly does a washing machine work?
MESSAGE: I have done a hundred searches and I can't find any information on how a washing machine really works! I need to know for a school project, how does a 70's to 80's washing machines actually work? What is a wig- wag , what does it do? Whay to all of the under-works do and what are they al called? I have tried How Stuff Works and all of those sites but they all just confuse me ! Help!
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Post# 28973-4/15/2003-08:18 ||| gewasherguy (Cabot, Arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: Vacuum Clearner (Vacuum Cleaner)
MESSAGE: Yes it is a Dyson. I am going to give it several more runs before returning it etc. It was expensive to buy and worth every penny in my opinion. I appreciate your time in answering. My train of thought on asking this question here was that perhaps someone had this problem with a older/vintage vacuum and could give me advice. Thanks again!
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Post# 28974-4/15/2003-08:51 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: How exactly does a washing machine work? (YOUR FOOT)
MESSAGE: Jamie - First tell us all (so we can stop worrying) about your foot. You came onto the site the other day on your way to the EMERGENCY room, asked us all to wish you luck, then never explained the emergency.....Several folks wished you well and asked you to report with foot news. Let's have it. Are you allergic to Kenmores?
washers work by introducing water & mechanical action to your clothing aided by detergent. Most are electrically operated.
; - )
B
a wig wag is something a puppy dog's tail does
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Post# 28975-4/15/2003-10:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: How exactly does a washing machine work?
MESSAGE: I remember the day I figured out how agitation works. I was at a park somewhere and they had a steam locomotive train ride. I was watching how the pistoning action from the locomotive drove the wheels and... BANG!!! THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE!!!
Jamie, the belt drive Kenmore is a more complicated machine to descibe than a Maytag or a direct drive Kenmore. Go to the library and see what they have. If you are lucky you will find they still have the Repair Masters on the shelves.
-ph
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Post# 28976-4/15/2003-10:17 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: How exactly does a washing machine work? (How it works)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie,
Like peter says they all work a little different but maytag is the easiest, but since you like kenmore (much more fun and entertaining) im sure you can find out the info. I learned how it works by looking at the pictures of Roberts Lady Kenmore that he restored, i tried finding the pics but can't remember which yahooid uni used.
Anyone know where that link is?
~Steven
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Post# 28977-4/15/2003-11:17 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: How exactly does a washing machine work? (da infamous wig-wag)
MESSAGE: Jamie,
The wig-wag assembly on Kenmore washers were two solenoids (electromagnets) mounted on an oscillating shaft. When it came time to go into the spin cycle, the solenoids would kick in and shift two shafts on the transmission and send the machine into the spin cycle. I believe this is how it worked. Let me know if you hear differently.
Dave
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Post# 28978-4/15/2003-11:30 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: RETIREMENT (Man! What a wonderful attitude!!!)
MESSAGE: HEY BOB, Welcome back! Grab your trombone and I'll get my bass guitar and we'll jam at the next convention! I'll have to brush up on some swing, since I've been doing a lot of classic rock lateley.
Bring on da videos!
Dave
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Post# 28979-4/15/2003-12:00 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: RETIREMENT (BAND)
MESSAGE: I'll bring my drum set and we can rock out!
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/vwp?.dir=/pictures/Drum+set&.dnm=Me+and+my+new+Mapex+drum+set!.jpg&.src=bc&.view=l&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst%3f%26.dir=/pictures/Drum%2bset%26.src=bc%26.view=l
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Post# 28980-4/15/2003-13:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: RETIREMENT (BAND)
MESSAGE: Imperial Bob and the Agitators...
I'll bring my tamborine and Stevie Nicks wig...
-ph
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Post# 28981-4/15/2003-13:50 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Outdoor Range/grill (That is a genuine GE _Partio Cart)
MESSAGE: According to the book A Walk In The Park, The History of Appliance Park. This device is known as the General Electric Partio Cart. It was introduced in 1960 on the Price as Right show (then hosted by Bill Cullen) as a prize. The whole idea behind it was the big Live Better Electricly campaign that was going on in this country at the time, If you can have flameless electric cooking in the kitchen why couldn't you have it on the patio too. According to the book after its intro on Price is Right only very small amounts of orders began trickling into Appliance Park for the Partio Cart so it was discontinued after a short while. The one on Ebay is in Potomac MD., near the site of last years convention, I wonder if Tom, John, or Imperial Bob would be interested in it?
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Post# 28982-4/15/2003-13:54 ||| appliguy (Vienna Va.)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Outdoor Range/grill (That is a genuine GE _Partio Cart)
MESSAGE: I forgot to say in my previous post that according to the book the reason the Partio Cart wasn't popular was because it ran on 220 volts and normally no one had that kind of power going to their patio.
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Post# 28983-4/15/2003-14:25 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: BAND
MESSAGE: Cool idea! Peter, I'm betting that Stevie Nicks wig qualifies you as the band singer too!
O.K. We need a bass player & Keyboard....any takers?
We could play that Boy George song I'll Tumble For Ya...
B
enjoying spring
PEACE
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Post# 28984-4/15/2003-14:56 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: My Foot Report
MESSAGE: Well, I came out with crutches and needed them only for two days, They don't really know what happened or what is wrong with my foot but hope it gets better. I had blood drawn, X-Rays, and the whole bit but nothing. And no need to worry, I am not allergic to Kenmores.
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Post# 28985-4/15/2003-16:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: My Foot Report (I hate needles)
MESSAGE: Well, that's good it was nothing serious. But kinda weird that it happened and no one knew what it was.
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Post# 28986-4/15/2003-16:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: BAND
MESSAGE: Bass players are pretty hard to find. They're usually the big mean guy.
Guitar players are obviously the central focus of the band.
The drums player is the weirdest one in the band. That's me.
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Post# 28987-4/15/2003-17:01 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: BAND
MESSAGE: Keyboards covered right here, as well as bass vocals.
Jim
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Post# 28988-4/15/2003-20:55 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Speed Queen Super-Twin Ad
MESSAGE: Remember these? Not the boots, the washer & dryer! This is the SQ set that we thought was most likely made by Servis. Twin-tub washer had a small version of the Speed Queen agitator but otherwise could pass for the same. Didn't you see a dryer like this at a thrift store, Louis?
And the boots are just too cool for words!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3604152792&category=13596
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Post# 28989-4/15/2003-20:58 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Queen Super-Twin Ad
MESSAGE: These boots are made for walkin'....A 1972 gogo girl!
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Post# 28990-4/15/2003-21:24 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: hi i need some advice (my maytag advice)
MESSAGE: I don't know about Maytag timers, but check to see if you can open the case on it. If you can, or if you can see the contacts, look for burnt or bent contacts, or a damaged (melted) cam (that is the large plastic wheel with the bumps on it.) If you find such damaged contacts, replace the timer. (Even if you clean off the contact, often the cam will have been melted in spots because of the very hot contact(s).)
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Post# 28991-4/15/2003-21:53 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: How exactly does a washing machine work?
MESSAGE: They are fairly complex machines. Howstuffworks is a good start. But the info on there is pretty specific to GE machines. A wig-wag is specific to Whirlpool made washers. (that includes Kenmore's and a couple others.) The basic washer has
1. a large motor, this motor often (not always) drives the pump, and transmission. The pump is either driven via a belt, or directly off the motor shaft. The transmission is often driven via a belt. But the current style of Whirlpool made washers have a directly driven transmission.
2. A transmission, its job is to usually drive the basket during spin cycle. And they are always used to drive the agitator back and forth slowly during wash and rinse cycles.
3. The pump, I mentioned this before. It does NOT pump the water IN, it only pumps the water OUT.
4. A water valve, its job is to let your household water supply water in to fill up the tub with fresh water. The water flows simply from your houshold pressure. (Like a tap does.)
5. A basket and a tub. The basket usually has holes in the sides and bottom. (Older washers had solid baskets, but don't worry about that.) The tub is always solid and holds the water in.
6. A water tempurature switch (the one on the console with "warm/cold, hot/cold, cold/cold" on it) It simply "tells" which side of the water valve to open. (If set on hot, only the hot part of the valve opens, allowing hot water in. If set on warm, both the cold and hot open and the water mixes and creates warm water. If set on cold, only the cold side opens and allows cold water in.)
7. A water level switch (the knob on the console with "high, med, low" on it) it has a hose running from it to the side of the tub where it attaches to a plastic "box." This box fills with water as the tub does during fill. The water rises and the air in the hose is trapped. This means the air is under pressure. Once the water is high enough, the air has high enough pressure to trip the water level switch. When it does, the switch turns the water valve off, and reroutes power to the timer. The timer starts the agitate cycle. The amount of pressure needed to trip the switch is adjustable (with the "high, medium and low settings on the knob.)
8. This is the most important part on the console. It basically "tells" the motor to start up and to stay running for a certain amount of time, and it also sends power to the water level switch when the washer fills.
9. Some sort of suspension. This may be a platform that hangs with a damper. Or the tub may sit on a pedistal with the heavy components hanging off it. The susupension basically allows the tub and mechanical components (motor, transmission, pump.) to move around, while the outer shell (the cabinet) stays stationary. If the tub and basket and the components where bolted to the cabinet, the whole washer would shake and jump around during the spin cycle.
(On how stuffs works, it says that the tub is bolted to the cabinet. However the suspension on that washer, which is a GE, is different. The tub stays stationary at all times. But the motor, transmission, and basket can move around. On most washers though, the whole guts of the washer, including the tub, can move and shake around.)
10. A wigwag, almost all washers DON'T have this. In order for your washer to have this, it has to be an old Whirlpool made washer. (If you have a 20 year old Whirlpool or Kenmore, then it has a wigwag. You said washers in the 70s and 80s, so any whirlpool or kenmore back then had a wigwag. No other washer, including newer whirlpool made washers, do not have this neat contraption.) The point of the wigwag was to shift the transmission in and out of agitation. And also to shift the washer to spin. And also to close a flapper in the pump. Most other washers accomplish all of this by reversing the motor (the motor turns one way to agitate, then turns the other to spin and drain.) However, on washers with a wigwag, the motor only turns in one direction.
I hope I did not confuse you more. You don't have to be exact on everything though. I am sure you teacher knows as much about washers as you. (that isn't supposed to be an insult:-)A very good way to understand how a washer works is to take one apart and explain to yourself what each part does. What brand of washer do you have? If you can understand how to get it back together, you can take your washer apart. Of course, ask the parents first, and unplug it. Also, there are three very good sites to help you.
www.applianceaid.com Just look around at all the different makes and make a conclusion of basic components
www.american-appliance.com Just go to the repair pages and look under all the different designs. It has lots of pictures.
www.appliancerepair.net/spsr/a1parts These are repair manuals. They show you some basic things too.
You can email me at
kurt_dixon150@hotmail.com
and I can send some other pics as well.
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Post# 28992-4/15/2003-21:55 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Vacuum Clearner (Vacuum Cleaner)
MESSAGE: Nope, it is just the new smell. It is nothing like new car or new major appliance smell. (mmm, I LOVE that smell.) But just keep using it and don't turn it off when it starts to stink, just keep running it and using it. Just try to ignore the smell. I am pretty sure it will go away on you.
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Post# 28993-4/15/2003-21:59 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: How exactly does a washing machine work? (WHOOPS)
MESSAGE: Whoops, I didn't know you were Jamie. My post was probably some Mickey Mouse stuff. You probably knew what most of the stuff was anyway. Since your school project probably isn't based around a certain brand (is it?) Then just explain Maytag's design. It is probably the most simple (or close to it)
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Post# 28994-4/15/2003-21:59 ||| korpben2000 (warren,pa)
SUBJECT: RE: hi i need some advice (my maytag advice)
MESSAGE: thanks kurt i might just do that, um i was thinking what if where the wires connect to the timer to the water valve on the timer could that be the problem? because cause it maybe fried but the rest of the wires are fine and like i said the machine washes and spins just fine and when i fill it up the pressure switch works just fine too. but i was wondering about the connection of the wires from the timer to the water valve if so do i need to replace the whole thing?and when i get this working again i hope everything will be fine.and thanks again
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Post# 28995-4/15/2003-22:00 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: BAND (dude, I got the bass covered!!!!)
MESSAGE: Which should I bring, the Fender Precision Bass or the Steinberger headless. Sorry I sold the Vox Phantom IV.
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Post# 28996-4/15/2003-22:11 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: BAND
MESSAGE: Shoot! I've been rocking out to the new Fleetwood Mac CD since 4pm today! I'm so ready to shake my tamboring like an Apex bouncing basket and twirl like a Multimatic on the gentle setting. Rock on, Gold Dust Woman!!!
-ph
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Post# 28997-4/15/2003-22:39 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Well, its official, we are having another addition to our home... another washer that is. I had the high bid on the 1966 Frigidaire Washer on ebay tonight. So, I smell another New Orleans wash-in coming! Jason, you up to it? ALR, you out there? The thought of all three of those Frigidaire machines pulsating just makes me light-headed. Todd
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Post# 28998-4/15/2003-22:40 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: leader of the laundromat
MESSAGE: Remember that old girl group number Leader of the Pack? I have a parody of that around here by a group called the Detergents called Leader Of the Laundromat....
my folks were always putting him down
(down, down)
because his laundry came back brown
(brown brown)
....and that's when I fell in love with the leader of the laundromat....
This band thing has real potential....maybe later this year we can make a recording....by PeterH770 & the Purex Tabs!
; - )
it's good to be back, fellas...
B
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Post# 28999-4/15/2003-22:59 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: BAND
MESSAGE: I guess I could be the keyboardist. Although I didn't like Culture Club.
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Post# 29000-4/15/2003-23:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Todd, I'm so proud of ya!!!!! And do I see a new watch coming into the house too? Time marches on.
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Post# 29001-4/15/2003-23:05 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: leader of the laundromat
MESSAGE: It's good you are back Bob. And don't forget, I do vocals too.
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Post# 29002-4/15/2003-23:13 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Congrats, Todd!!! I'm glad it is staying with a club member!
-ph
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Post# 29003-4/15/2003-23:17 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: leader of the laundromat
MESSAGE: LOL!!! Love it, but I'm probably the least talented of the bunch! If there is going to be a name in the band name, I prefer it not be mine...
-ph
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Post# 29004-4/15/2003-23:48 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: hi i need some advice (my maytag advice)
MESSAGE: Actually it goes like this. The timer-waterlevel-watervalve-back to timer. I believe this is the wiring. (I may be wrong.) It isn't the water valve. It isn't the water level switch. So it is either a connection, a broken wire or inside the timer. (If the problem is inside the timer, replace the whole timer. If there is a burnt wire elsewhere, the timer is probably okay.) The most likely thing is the timer. Broken timers are right up there with the most common problems with Maytags. The problems are 1. timer stays in one place and doesn't move. 2. The timer keeps going around and around and doesn't stop 3. The timer skips cycles (this is your problem, I think.) If the timer skipped the agitate cycle, then the washer would sit there doing nothing while it was filled with water. Then it would kick in when the timer moves to spin. Same thing with spin. But since it may be missing the fill cycle, then the washer can't start anything else. (the timer does not move until the tub is filled.)
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Post# 29005-4/15/2003-23:58 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: Let me know if anyone is interested!!
MESSAGE: My Best friends mother is selling her house for financial reasons. So in turn, I am trying to help her out by selling her 1970 something Lady Kenmore Soft Heat dryer. It's not a definitive, But if I get enough interest we can hopefully make this happen. OK, Stats,
Lady Kenmore Soft Heat
Model# 7008900W00
Serial# 12047-M950
Wrinkle Guard On-Off
lever for air dry or Soft Heat
60 Minute Timed dry
Variable auto dry from 1-6
Lint filter light
Machine is in Very Good condition just very dusty, could use a good cleaning but is in amazing shape for age. I don't have a camera with me tonight, but if someone is truly interested, i could get a picture of it. It appears to be a match to a Kenmore 800 washer (Hint Jason ;))Actually, the match to it WAS a Kenmore 800 washer, unfortunately replaced in the early 90's. So if anyone is genuinely interested, raise your hand. The only reason this is not definitive is because it would have to come up Very narrow, rickety cellar stairs, But I guess where there is a will, there's a way. I'll see what i can do... If I can make this happen, only one thing, it would have to be picked up or (possibly) shipped by April 30th. Dryer is located in Southern Connecticut. ,
Thanks Guys,
Geoff
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Post# 29006-4/16/2003-03:06 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Speed Queen Super-Twin Ad (Pictures of that dryer)
MESSAGE: Yes Greg, I took some pictures of it. It was a Zoppas (by Zanussi), but it's exactly the same dryer.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?.dir=/Zoppas+dryer&.src=ph&.order=&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 29007-4/16/2003-06:09 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: hi i need some advice (my maytag advice)
MESSAGE: WHOA!
Don't get into the timer just yet. During the agitation phase there are 3 wires that go to the water level sensor. One is hot, one goes to the water valves (by way of the temperature selectors, and one goes to the motor.
When the sensor does not detect enough water, the power is sent to the water valves. Once the water is at a selected level, the power is switched to the motor and agitation begins. If you are getting agitation when you are filling the washer with a hose, the first thing I would check is that the wires aren't crossed at the water level sensor. Second I would check the temperature select switches.
About a month ago, my Maytag also stopped filling. It ended up being that the water temperature buttons were all pushed in (one was not in and the others out. As soon as I pressed one in all the way the machine began to fill.
One other question, does it spray rinse during the spin? During the spray rinse, the water level sensor is by-passed.
Be careful when working on the machine with the power on. That's 120 volts running through those wires. Remember to remove all jewelry (watches, rings and chains), keep one hand in your pocket, and wear rubber soled shoes or sneakers.
Steve
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Post# 29008-4/16/2003-06:16 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire
MESSAGE: YAY!
I won the 1-18 "GAS" dryer so you'll have to bring your bring your wash up here to Georgia to dry it.
Steve1-18
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Post# 29009-4/16/2003-06:30 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Classic Appliances South East (CASE)
MESSAGE: Hey all you appliance nuts! Don't forget the upcoming Westy Workshop on May 3rd. I'll be emailing a reminder today, so if you do not receive the e-mail and you want to be on the mailing list, drop me a line at:
applianceville@comcast.net
This is not limited to South Eastern members. Everyone is invited.
If you are planning on staying over, between George, Peter and me, we can provide you with the names of a few hotels / motels nearby.
Hope to see you there!
Steve1-18
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Post# 29010-4/16/2003-07:32 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: leader of the laundromat (Leader of the Laundromat)
MESSAGE: hi bob.....glad to see you back...i remember the song "leader of the laundromat"....and since i did all the church laundry at my parish in new york for many years, i was known as "our lady of the laundry room".....welcome back.....ross
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Post# 29011-4/16/2003-07:37 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: Our Lady of the Laundry Room
MESSAGE: For many years at my home parish (Episcopal) back in New York, I washed and ironed communion linens, priests vestments, and acolyte vestments. I had keys and burglar alarm codes so I could come and go on my own time to get into the church, into the sacristy where a wicker basket was located with my name on it to pick up the dirty laundry, bring it home, do my magic on it, and bring it back to the church. The priest here in Palm Springs is still hesitant to let me do the same job here. I have told other parishoners that people marching down in the aisle in procession are wearing vestments with "ring around the collar". I will be persistant in wanting to take care of parish laundry and back to my old title of "Our Lady of the Laundry Room"
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Post# 29012-4/16/2003-07:47 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: leader of the laundromat (I got the mp3)
MESSAGE: Leader of the Laundromat by the Detergents
My daddy's shirt all came out brown
(brown brown)
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Post# 29013-4/16/2003-07:48 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire (SHEESH)
MESSAGE: Another Frigidaire!
Yeah, I'd be ready for another wash-in. I can tear myself away from Six Flags to do that. Or can I? :-P~
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Post# 29014-4/16/2003-07:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...)
MESSAGE: Hopefully, the church laundry is done on a belt drive Lady Kenmore.
Lead us not into RIPtation
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Post# 29015-4/16/2003-08:39 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: FRIGIDAIRE FABRIC SOFTENER DISPENSER
MESSAGE: Recently, from ebay I purchased a new in the box frigidaire Fabric Softener dispenser, which I was hoping would fit my 1-18, but does not...it's for the earlier jetcone....
Since I don't own the washer, Does anyone here wish to own the dispenser? It looks like a flying saucer, and is new in the box, never used.
Part number is 1-7534896.
Who wants it? What's it worth to you?
Let me know and it could be yours......
PEACE.
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Post# 29016-4/16/2003-10:27 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: FRIGIDAIRE FABRIC SOFTENER DISPENSER
MESSAGE: Bob, I'm getting one of those nice machine and don't know the model until I get it home so I would like to get it if no one else wants it!
Larry
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Post# 29017-4/16/2003-10:49 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: FRIGIDAIRE FABRIC SOFTENER DISPENSER (EARLY BIRD GET THE WORM)
MESSAGE: Hey, Larry. No problem, I'd love for you to have it....Do you think maybe it's worth 20 bucks?
Let me know...
B
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Post# 29018-4/16/2003-10:55 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: FRIGIDAIRE FABRIC SOFTENER DISPENSER (EARLY BIRD GET THE WORM)
MESSAGE: yes!!!
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Post# 29019-4/16/2003-11:26 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room
MESSAGE: Ross, what sort of equipment did you have in this Parish laundry room?
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Post# 29020-4/16/2003-15:06 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room
MESSAGE: Our church growing up was in a 50's era neighborhood and had all "donated" appliances. A 40" GE range with lots of lights and pushbutton controls, another commercial Hotpoint electric range with massive burners and a couple of rounded edge refrigerators. In the basement utility room, there was only a washer, a BOL Kenmore from the 60's that was never used, never hooked up. I have no idea who did all the washing for the church, but it wasn't done on site.
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Post# 29021-4/16/2003-16:46 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (Church laundries)
MESSAGE: The one time I was in our church rectory, it was a Maytag set. The nuns also had a Maytag pair in their house. Which was strange, because there was no Maytag dealer in town.
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Post# 29022-4/16/2003-18:05 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire (the new old girl)
MESSAGE: hey todd
hope you enjoy having her
i know she will be happy with her new friends
take care
chris
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Post# 29023-4/16/2003-18:10 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason....I have always had Maytags but have wondered about Whirlpool/Kenmore. At least I could take a pen or a screw driver to hold down the lid shut off so I could watch what is going on in the tub. With the Maytag, I have to use a plastic spatula to keep lid switch pushed in.
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Post# 29024-4/16/2003-18:12 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: Hi Scott. I would bring laundry home to my house to wash and iron. I used my Maytag. The Communion Linens and Fair Linen from High Altar would be spun damp dry, then straight onto the ironing board. It is the only way to iron linen.
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Post# 29025-4/16/2003-18:17 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (Church laundries)
MESSAGE: Hi there. I would bring laundry back to my house and wash it in my Maytag. The Communion Linens and Fair Linen from High Altar would have to be ironed wet as they were real linen. The Rector's vestments were ironed using spray sizing to make them crisp but not stiff. I am Episcopalian which is like Roman Catholic except our "Pope" is the Archbishop of Canterbury in England....and we don't have Bingo, otherwise, all is the same...we also have nuns and monks...
Since I moved to California from New York, parishes here disorganized. The Rector is moody....first he was thrilled that I volunteered for laundry but the next week, he blew me off....I intend to be persistant. I recently spoke to head of the Altar Guild back in New York. I felt good when she said that it is over 5 years since I left New York and all the ladies on the Altar Guild still miss my laundry talents.
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Post# 29026-4/16/2003-18:24 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: hi i need some advice (my maytag advice)
MESSAGE: Good, you know more about wiring than me:-) But that one hand in the pocket is a good bit of advice. I had the bad fortune to have 2 hands out of the pockets. And one hand brushed a connection in our dryer while I was cleaning it out.
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Post# 29027-4/16/2003-19:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (Church laundries)
MESSAGE: Interesting, thanks. It is quite a thing to work with those specialty items, and I'm glad you were appreciated back in New York, and hope these folks in Palm Springs come to realize the value of an experienced person who is willing to serve in this manner.
Did you bring your Maytag along from New York, or did you buy a new one?
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Post# 29028-4/16/2003-19:21 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: Does anyone know if the Maytag design is amenable to being able to jump the switch from the circuit, as many folk have done here with their various washers?
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Post# 29029-4/16/2003-21:17 ||| korpben2000 (warren,pa)
SUBJECT: RE: hi i need some advice (my maytag advice)
MESSAGE: thanks steve, um no it doesn't even spray rinse during the spin and i think it could be the temp switch but i looked at all the wiring and no wires are switched.i still don't know whats wrong with it,because i'm still not getting no juice to the water valve theres no humming or buzzing noise at all.but i'll see what i can do,because i want to get this fixed and also i was wondering if you had yahoo messenger?if you do we can keep in touch and i'll let you know when i can get it fixed.
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Post# 29030-4/16/2003-21:39 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: I have a Maytag and jumped the safety switch.It's been a few years ago,I think I may have removed the top to get to it.It can be done,but there's not much to watch (ho-hum) It spins backward.
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Post# 29031-4/16/2003-22:08 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (Church laundries)
MESSAGE: Ross, have that lady who is head of the Altar Guild write you a leter of recommendation!!!! Bob
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Post# 29032-4/16/2003-22:12 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: Ross, Jason & I would recommend against a direct drive Kenmore or Whirlpool. I don't call my '86 LK the Shredmore for nuttin'. I'd be afraid such lovely fabrics would end up having an "altar"cation with the agitator and some vestments might end up being given a R. I. P. memorial.
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Post# 29033-4/16/2003-23:12 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Another "new' Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Sorry guys, no pictures yet, but will sent you to a link to see my latest acquisition.
It was out with the trash on my way home from work tonight.
Did a dry run when I got home and it spun okay. This one is quieter than my older frigmore fl.
It was missing the cover, but no problem as I plan on stacking the Kenmore gas dryer on top of it.
Guess I'll have to start taking in laundry.
Steve1-18
LINK: http://www.frigidaire.com/products/laundry/washers/tumble_action/prod_GLTF1670A.asp
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Post# 29034-4/17/2003-01:44 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: "POD" Crosley Portable:
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Friends, this looks like a smaller version of the Mid to Late '40s Kenmore Washer that had a similar front Sloped-Control area, with the Timer on the Right and the Water Temp on the Left Side. The Lid even looks similar to the Kenmore too. I don't remember what the year was exactly, but one of our Neighbors and their Mother's had identical Kenmore Full-Size Washers. I would also assume that they were about maybe 10-pounds Capacity at that time, or could they have been a little larger Capacity?
My beat to everyone, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 29035-4/17/2003-01:58 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire (Re: Congratulation's Todd:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Todd, Congratulations on your newest addition to your Washer and Dryer Family. I've known Chris for some time now, we met on E-Bay, and have been real good E-Mail Friends ever since. He is a real nice person and really likes finding out about "How-To" as much as I do and as we all do. We both have even find out something new from each other once in a while and share things happening with certain problems going on with our Washers or Dryers, when we get "Stumped" about what's wrong sometimes. If all else fails, we do rely on all of our Club Friends for advise, suggestions and other help as needed.
My best to everyone, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 29036-4/17/2003-05:21 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room
MESSAGE: Interesting - in our parish, different older ladies took turns on a rotating schedule doing the vestments, cassocks and surplices as well as the general linens. I always wondered about this since the rectory employed a housekeeper and cook......
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Post# 29037-4/17/2003-07:07 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: P.O.D Crosley
MESSAGE: Isn't this Crosley a clone that was made by Bendix? The flex-a-tub sounds like the Bendix that Imperal Bob has and showed some videos of. One of my grandmothers had the Bendix that used the air pump to suck the air out of tub and squeese the water out.
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Post# 29038-4/17/2003-07:18 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: pictures
MESSAGE: Hey, Imperial Bob, any new pictures lately? It's been a long time since I've seen any from you. I sure do like the Imperial Laundry Studio! Todd
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Post# 29039-4/17/2003-07:21 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Steve, congrats on your new dryer purchase. Bob (Appnut) told me just last night that I need to start acquiring dryers to go with these washers ... of course, my partner just shook his head and walked out the room when he heard about our new addition. Yes, Bob, looks like another watch (peace offering) is in order. Todd
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Post# 29040-4/17/2003-07:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire
MESSAGE: That is a nice washer you won, congrats! Will you be able to hook up all the washers at once or change them out depending on your mood? "I'm in a solid tub mood today..."
Now you'll need a Filtrator dryer to use in the winter and another for summer - one is never enough. ;-)
Greg
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Post# 29041-4/17/2003-08:00 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: Hi Angus. Yes, normally, the Altar Guild (Episcopal) team on duty would normally be responsible for the Communion Linens used that particular day but since I had volunteered for that job, it was covered. I was considered a member of the Altar Guild due to the fact that I did all the washing and ironing but I never served doing regular Altar Guild functions. I had keys and burglar alarm codes, would go into the Sacristy on my own time where there was a wicker laundry basket. The basket contained dirty communion linens and sometimes, the Rector would throw in a surplus, amice, or alb. I would bring the dirties home, was and iron on my own time, then bring them back. I attended monthly Altar Guild meetings with the ladies.
Many of the parishoners would tell my parents what a wonderful job I did. My Dad would tell them that I also took care of his dress shirts for the office because he felt I did a better job than my Mom.
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Post# 29042-4/17/2003-08:04 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: Hi Appnut. I have always had a Maytag. Communion linens being made of linen were pretty tough. When they were worn out, the Rector instructed me to burn them in my fireplace. That was when I lived in New York City. I have now been in Palm Springs, CA for over 5 years now. My current Rector is moody..one Sunday he was thrilled I volunteered to wash and iron linens and vestments but the next Sunday he blew me off. I intend to be persistant as it is job I really enjoy doing. I always used Tide powder, hot water, bleach, and most importantly, BLUING.....so many people are not even aware of bluing.
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Post# 29043-4/17/2003-08:08 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (Church laundries...Maytag)
MESSAGE: hi there....i left 1991 maytag in my house in new york when i sold it a year after moving to my condo in palm springs. i have had condo here since 1993 and it came with old whirlpool set which was replaced in 1996 with maytags...but i also have my vintage machines....1951 westinghouse slant front and 1960's maytag wringer...i have 2 other machines but they are in repair shop....1947 bendix front loader and 1960's frigidaire jetcone....i take turns using each machine...i keep them in my garage where i even have bolts in the ground for the bendix...
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Post# 29044-4/17/2003-08:37 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Hi Arrrooohhh,
What was it?
I've been away a few days and missed it
Chris
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Post# 29045-4/17/2003-09:12 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: NEW PHOTOS
MESSAGE: Indeed, I do have fresh photos to share. Here's the scoop on that....before I was using personal web space & that expired...maybe today I can get more webspace and host my own photos and videos...but until I do...Can someone please point me to the directions about putting up photos at the yahoo site? For the life of me I cannot seem to find the instructions about how that's done...
Indeed, the POD is very similar to my Bendix Dialamatic, and I suppose I can see the resemblence to my basic Kenmores from '55 which do have both knobs up front and feature a central trim piece...
B
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Post# 29046-4/17/2003-09:41 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: NEW SOUND FILES
MESSAGE: At this time, I would like to volunteer to do the digital transferring of ANY new appliance related audio materials. Anyone who has ANYTHING new and different in the way of sound recordings relating to appliances, get in touch with me and I will gladly do the digital transferring of your sounds and host them so we can all hear them at the club. Also, I wouldn't mind recording the ones we have now over again - the fidelity is terrible & I'm certain the originals sounded better....I can transfer from all types of records and magnetic tapes, and will be happy to do so. If I hear that Kelvinator song sounding like it's coming out of a childs phonograph once more, I'll scream. Let's hear it for high fidelity! Time has marched on since those original files were transferred - computers have gotten faster as have servers, and I feel it's just time to bring the quality up a knotch, and to add more material.
So who's got some vintage appliance audio stuff to share? Who's got the Betty Furness 7" 78 'How to get the Best Results from your Westinghouse Laundromat'- for example...
PEACE.
B
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Post# 29047-4/17/2003-09:52 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: Bluing is such an integral part of good laundering practices (along with proper wash temp, using enough detergent, only just enough bleach and two warm water rinses) that I cannot imagine any of us not using it. It can be tricky though - and that is sometimes as much a function of the garments as of the bluing itself. Around here there is a thick concentrated brand called Bluette. So you must mix it first in a container of water or else it will streak and stain dreadfully.
As far as the issues with the garments themselves - the linings of plackets, cuffs and collars of some brands of white dress and casual shirts are made of some type of material which will soak up the bluing no matter how well it is dissolved. Then you will end up with permanent streaks and stains. This has happened to some of my sister's whites that were purchased through L.L. Bean.
So I no longer use the bluing on her things but always on my own as well as table and bed linens, white towels etc... I must also say that hanging these things out on the line is just the frosting on the cake!!!! And just like in the commercials, I am always complimented on my whites. I guess more people than not actually notice this....
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Post# 29048-4/17/2003-10:12 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: I must confess though to being a bit of a powdered detergent slut. I have a storeroom with a variety of different brands. I guess though, Tide with bleach in the Mountain Falls flavor is the one I use most and the one that delivers the most consistent results. Next would be Cheer complete and Gain with Bleach ( but only in the old fragrance). Once they introduced that new "fresh wash" nonsense I hit up every grocery within 30 miles of home and have enough old Gain boxes to last a while. Next would be the Fab powders but they have to be mail ordered and shipping costs really drive up the total cost so I use those sparingly. Then there would be the Surf with bleach and spring burst powders - but real Surf - not the new NON enzyme Surf/All. Finally there is the Fresh Start powder. I liked that a lot for a long time and didn't even mind having to mail order it. However the last shipment contained a newer formula minus enzymes and a bit sudsier than I would like....
Then we move to Surf tablets and Purex mountain breeze tablets. After all this time I can't decide if I really like the performance of the Surf tabs but the purple ones smell fine and are low suds. Once in a while I will use the Arm &Hammer powder with bleach. Works great, but is rather unexciting. I also keep some liquids for sport, but truthfully don't use them much at all.
I am also going to try something I haven't used before. While whining to P&G over the phone about their new Swiffer dusters being unavailable they sent me a bunch of coupons. So I have a coupon for a free box of Bold Plus. I think this used to have a fabric softener in it, but the box says nothing about that anymore. Seems to smell very nice, but we will see about performance. Besides it was free anyway, so what the heck...........
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Post# 29049-4/17/2003-10:49 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: Happy Birthday
MESSAGE: To the new applianceville band: Please lead us all in an agitated and highly extrated rendition of "Happy Birthday" for our beloved founder and leader Robert on his 40th today!!!
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Post# 29050-4/17/2003-11:05 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: P.O.D Crosley
MESSAGE: Yes, I believe this is just such a machine.
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Post# 29051-4/17/2003-11:05 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: HAPPY 40TH!
MESSAGE: Turning a decade is always exciting! Happy Birthday, Robert.
How about the name Robert Seger & the Super Roto-Swirls for a band name.....
There's a surprisingly large number of us here who are 40 now...I turned 40 last October.
May you live to be 120 years old, young man. And might I add, you've never looked better!
BIG HUG to you, Robert.
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Post# 29052-4/17/2003-11:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: So I'm guessing you bleach during the wash phase, and "blue" during the rinse?
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Post# 29053-4/17/2003-11:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (Church laundries...Maytag)
MESSAGE: What a nice collection!
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Post# 29054-4/17/2003-11:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: It is always so nice to hear of someone who takes pride in their laundry practices, especially the whites! I don't believe I've ever tried bluing, I will have to try it sometime with some whites to make them even "whiter".
I had a roommate in the past whose mother when he was growing up always blamed poor washing results on the use of automatic (rather than wringer) washers. Since I've seen firsthand now how nice a wash a vintage automatic can do, I think perhaps they simply had yet to hit on the right combinatin of products.
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Post# 29055-4/17/2003-11:19 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: HAPPY 40TH!
MESSAGE: Happy 40th Robert, and welcome to the *other* club. LOL Scott
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Post# 29056-4/17/2003-11:21 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: My favorite whirlpool
MESSAGE: Hi guys,
I was at the appliance store getting some parts and i peeked in back and what did i see but the very same belt driven standard cap whirlpool my grandparents had in their condo in palm springs. It was their summer home and my favorite childhood place and this from what i remember is the exact machine (well theirs was in better shape) this is the one that replaced that green frigidaire i told you guys about (the one i called the up and down but was too young to really understand it to appreciate it)
Anyway i now have that whirlpool like we had at the condo, i can't remember if water is supposed to come out the lint filter (it doesn't on mine) but the machine works great otherwise no weird noises, no leaks, tight spin tube and it stops spinning quick, doesnt seem to have alot of use. Just needs paint bad, anyone know how to fix up that console =)
Oh and i also took home a belt driven stackable, very unique suspension, goes up and down, doesn't sound like a belt drive really and the things hauls a** when it spins!
~Steven
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/washthisway/lst?.dir=/My+favorite+Whirlpools&.view=t
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Post# 29057-4/17/2003-11:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: My favorite whirlpool
MESSAGE: What fun to find a childhood machine! Yes, water should be flowing out of the lint filter at all times the machine is agitating (that's the fun part on these!) and hopefully someone here can guide you as to how to fix that. Have fun!
You should be able to talk to Jason1 about your stackable, I bet it has the same type of setup internally as his Sears belt drive portable.
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Post# 29058-4/17/2003-12:16 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: HAPPY 40TH! (Thanks Bob)
MESSAGE: Well thanks Bob, yes today is the big one for me. I better go out and find that Apex Automatic soon or else I'll be too old to move it down the stairs! LOL.
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Post# 29059-4/17/2003-12:18 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: HAPPY 40TH!
MESSAGE: Thanks Scott, I guess I'm the "baby" of this new club!
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Post# 29060-4/17/2003-12:30 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: HAPPY 40TH! (40?)
MESSAGE: BIG HAPPY BIRTHDAY ROBERT!
I never did look at your date of birth in your profile. I am actually shocked that you are 40.
I thought that you looked as though you were in your late 20's when I met you this past summer at the convention. So, whatever you are doing, you must be doing something right!
I hope that you have a great Birthday and all of your wishes come true!
Brent
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Post# 29061-4/17/2003-12:58 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: HAPPY 40TH! (Thanks Bob)
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday!!
And as Scott says, welcome to the 'other' club -- it's a fun one too! ;-)
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Post# 29062-4/17/2003-13:26 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: Happy Birthday Robert and many more
MESSAGE: Brent you are such a southern gentelman
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Post# 29063-4/17/2003-14:19 ||| rapidry1000 (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: HAPPY 40TH! (Happy 40th Birthday Robert)
MESSAGE: Best Wishes on your 40th birthday. Hope to meet you someday and personally thank you for this site.
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Post# 29064-4/17/2003-14:43 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: HAPPY 40TH! (Thanks Bob)
MESSAGE: Many happy returns Robert! As we say overhere: Until 120!
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Post# 29065-4/17/2003-14:44 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Complete 1964 General Electric Kitchen in "Coppertone"
MESSAGE: Guys,
Grandma want's to update....here is what's up for grabs!
1. 2 door 1964 General Electric Refridgerator in coppertone brown. All racks doors and shelves are present, normal use marks but in excellent shape for age.18.0 cu ft. freezer compartment and frost free fridge section.Works wonderfully and more quietly than todays refridgerators.
2. 1964 Four Burner Rangetop/Stove combination drop in. Sits on a pedestal but has that "built in look. Controls for the stove are on the actual cooktop body, the controls for the burners are located on the wall mounted Chrome and white pushbutton control panel. It also has a built in timer, but hasn't worked in about a decade. However ALL of the functions of the stove work beautifully.
3.1964 Portable Superba "Potscrubber" Dishwasher. Drop down door design, with three washracks. One large lower rack and two upper racks for cups and small stuff.Mint green flecked with white inside. Normal rust spots here and there inside but nothing more than just superflouous rust. It runs, but in a complete cycle it may drip some on the floor...it doesn't leak to my knowledge.
4. The bonus is you also get a three speed Swanson brand full rangehood with "a light"!!! All there and works too.
Asking price for all of the above is only $300.00 obo. If you are interested you may e-mail me or call me @ 517-627-9541
I do not have any pictures that I would be able to have up in time. It's a PACKAGE deal and if you want them you have 1 month to get them or they will be trashed. I myself Cannot save them, so it's up to other collectors here at applianceville to save them . I know that they're not a washer and dryer which everyone seems to be more giddy about...but it's a chance to get that retro kitchen for like 1/4 the cost of new.
Thanks Chad
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Post# 29066-4/17/2003-14:46 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: HAPPY 40TH! (Thanks Bob)
MESSAGE: Have a wonderful day!!!
-ph
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Post# 29067-4/17/2003-14:49 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire DW seal needed
MESSAGE: I'm in need of a motor shaft seal for a late 50's Frigidaire spray tube DW. Anyone have one in their part collections? Let me know. Thanks!!!
-ph
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Post# 29068-4/17/2003-15:04 ||| Peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: HAPPY 40TH! (HAPPY 40TH!)
MESSAGE: Happy Birthday Robert!
May you have a real Happy Birthday with lots of fun and excitement. I hope all your dreams come true.
Jetaction
Peter
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Post# 29069-4/17/2003-15:43 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: HAPPY 40TH!
MESSAGE: Happy birthday Robert,
I hope that this day was celebrated this day better than any other day with 4 or more machine over flowing with suds than one!
I wish you the best on this natal day!
Larry
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Post# 29070-4/17/2003-16:08 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (Maytag Lid Switch)
MESSAGE: The lid switch doubles as the off-balance switch so it's not the best idea to just jump it out.
Since I like to add the Bleach when the machine is running, I installed a toggle switch just over the top of the instrument panal. It's marked "service & normal".
Ken D.
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Post# 29071-4/17/2003-16:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: HAPPY 40TH! (Thanks Bob)
MESSAGE: Never too old for Apex, besides, you'll always be younger than your washers!
Tell Neal Happy Birthday this week too!
Enjoy the day - Greg
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Post# 29072-4/17/2003-16:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: NEW SOUND FILES
MESSAGE: How about film? I have an Axion commercial (my all time favortie additive) that could be fun.
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Post# 29073-4/17/2003-16:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: NEW PHOTOS
MESSAGE: Hi Bob - From the Yahoo.com homepage you can select photos or use the link below. Since you already have a Yahoo ID, you need only activate the photos portion now. Follow the instructions given and you should be up and running. In order to be able to view photos full-screen size, you have to pay the dues for their service. Yahoo is a bit whacky now and then, but overall the service has been OK. Good luck - Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/
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Post# 29074-4/17/2003-16:49 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: HAPPY BIRTHDAY ROBERT!
MESSAGE: BIRTHDAY GREETINGS ROBERT!!! Finally 40, my goodness. They say that the eyesight is the first to go at 40. It isn't. BIG BIRTHDAY HUGS!!! MARK
ps. hearing is the first thing to go! Now what were YOU thinking???
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Post# 29075-4/17/2003-17:08 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: YAHOO PHOTOS
MESSAGE: I don't know if traffic was low now or what, but THAT was easy. THANKS Greg for the link...fresh photos in the 2003 pink & white folder at the link below...HAPPY VIEWING
PEACE.
B
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/phonobob
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Post# 29076-4/17/2003-17:16 ||| lbcarguy (Long Beach, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Archey's washer (was it Maytag?)
MESSAGE: Hi,
I collect jukeboxes too. Almost all the juke boxes at Kelsey's (later Archie's Place) were Seeburgs. The Seeburgs I have noticed are a 1959 222 (first stereo juke), 1968 LS1, 1963 Console, 1965 Discotheque and yes, they did use a 1964 or 65 Rockola Princess in a few episodes. This show moved around the LA area to different soundstages, which may explain why the set dressers used so many different juke props.
Alas, all the junk we end up storing in our memory banks, now if I could just remember where I put my keys....
Mike
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Post# 29077-4/17/2003-17:40 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: NEW SOUND FILES
MESSAGE: Man, oh, man -
I thought I was the only person who remembered Axion! Would love to see that video.
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Post# 29078-4/17/2003-17:45 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: YAHOO PHOTOS
MESSAGE: Great photos. My great grandmother had a washer/dryer set identical to the Kenmore washer in that folder. What model year is it?
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Post# 29079-4/17/2003-17:46 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: FILM-O-SOUND
MESSAGE: Sorry. NO can do films. ; - )
I did a quick windows media file just now but the yahoo site will only host jpg or gif. no wmv. humf.
B
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Post# 29080-4/17/2003-17:49 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: '55 KENMORE
MESSAGE: That one in the photo with the knobs up front is a '55, although I do believe it was originally introduced in an early year - like '52 or '53 and then kept on as the basic model for some years later...I love mine. It's running in a nearly silent fashion these days. Perfectly behaved, after many an hour of fine tinkering and noise elimination...; - )
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Post# 29081-4/17/2003-18:38 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Greg, I am having a workshop built in another two weeks so that I can house the machines and have them hooked up. The 1-18 set is in the house and is my primary set. As far a more machines, I must tread lightly because my partner is not amused by my latest acquisition. Of course, if I had to choose between the two ... Frigidaires are just harder to come by. hehe Todd
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Post# 29082-4/17/2003-18:43 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire (model?)
MESSAGE: Hey! Congratulations on that new GM washer...what model was that one?
Was there a link to it on ebay that may still be active where I can see..
How many GM washers do you have now?
B
i wanna do mardi gras next year.....
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Post# 29083-4/17/2003-19:27 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: NEW SOUND FILES
MESSAGE: Me too - I need to take it in to the guy that transfered my Maytag commercials (in the library) so we can all see it.
I've been lucky to find a lot of vintage Axion at estate sales, still works like a charm!
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Post# 29084-4/17/2003-19:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire
MESSAGE: That sounds great - I would love a workshop but the garage and basement will have to do until I win that lotto!
I like you're outlook on love...;-) Similar to my own thoughts as well!
Boyfriends may come and go, but Frigidaires last a lifetime.
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Post# 29085-4/17/2003-19:48 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: hi scott......bleach tends to yellow whites.....bluing counteracts the yellowing action of bleach...it can be diluted and added during the rinse cycle or i just add bluing, bleach, and detergent as washer is filling up with water, let machine agitate for a few moments to mix everything up....then i add clothes.....like bleach, bluing cannot be poured in the tub with the clothes otherwise it stains the clothes
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Post# 29086-4/17/2003-19:50 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: hi angus....i must confess that sometimes, i like a break from tide so i buy a box of all....not like the all i remember from years ago...and even occasionally, gain powder.....it has such a nice scent.....i cannot imagine using unscented detergent...
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Post# 29087-4/17/2003-19:53 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: hi angus.....i forgot.....i am forced to use liquid tide "HE" in the front loaders that i have to prevent over sudsing...it really works fine....i remember the old "all" and "dash" which were low sudsing and made specifically for front loaders....
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Post# 29088-4/17/2003-19:59 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire (model?)
MESSAGE: Bob, the link on ebay is still active. It is item #2316477828. This one is a 1966. This is my third GM Frigidaire. I already have a 1965 Rapidry and a 1973 1-18 set. I still want to get hold of a Skinny Mini, but no luck yet. Well, you just missed Mardi Gras, but there's always next year. I got plenty of room if you want to next year.
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Post# 29089-4/17/2003-20:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: interesting, thanks!
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Post# 29090-4/17/2003-20:52 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire (model?)
MESSAGE: Direct link to the eBay Frigidaire....
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2316477828&category=20714
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Post# 29091-4/17/2003-21:00 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: FIRST VIDEO OF THE SPRING
MESSAGE: Here's the first silly video of the new year. Became ambitious today and restored my web space too, so watch for music and video sharing soon.
PEACE
B
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/PINK1.wmv
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Post# 29092-4/17/2003-21:28 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: HAPPY 40TH! (Re: "
Happy Birthday"
)
MESSAGE: "Happy Birthday" Bob, I hope that besides your having all of these wonderful wishes from all of the Club Members, that you are having a wonderful celebration and that you are having a special day for such a special person. Many, many more happy returns of the day.
My best to you always, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
Big Teddy Bear Hugs to you, dear Club Friend...
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Post# 29093-4/17/2003-22:06 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: FIRST VIDEO OF THE SPRING
MESSAGE: Daddy always said;"you can never lose your talent" Love it! (-:
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Post# 29094-4/17/2003-22:38 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: My favorite whirlpool
MESSAGE: oh bless your heart scott your the only one who ever responds to my posts =)
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Post# 29095-4/17/2003-22:42 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Greg, there's very little "winter" in New Orleans and with the humidity, I don't think a Filtrator would be "practical" unless Todd wants a steam room while washing & drying.
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Post# 29096-4/17/2003-23:00 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: HAPPY 40TH! (Thanks Bob)
MESSAGE: Yes, I'm going to be leaving this "club" in about a year and joining golittlesport in the next "club". Again, happy birthday Robert.
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Post# 29097-4/17/2003-23:01 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: Happy Birthday!!
MESSAGE: Hi Robert, I hope that you had a very Happy Birthday and that you did something special. 40 really isn't so bad is it? My wish for you is that there will be an Apex just around the corner in perfect condition just for you. Terry
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Post# 29098-4/17/2003-23:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Well then, send Gary on over here please!!! LOL
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Post# 29099-4/17/2003-23:28 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: Happy Birthday Mr. Uni
MESSAGE: Wonder if Im gonna be the last birthday wish before midnight...
Anyway, hope you got another dream machine for your birthday.
Here's wishing that this is the start of a great year and a great decade for you. How's the new house? Yeah, it's been that long since Ive posted regularly here.
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Post# 29100-4/17/2003-23:29 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: Happy Birthday Mr. Uni
MESSAGE: Wonder if Im gonna be the last birthday wish before midnight...
Anyway, hope you got another dream machine for your birthday.
Here's wishing that this is the start of a great year and a great decade for you. How's the new house? Yeah, it's been that long since Ive posted regularly here.
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Post# 29101-4/17/2003-23:33 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Archey's washer (Seeburg)
MESSAGE: I cant get enough of the jukebox that starts out "Happy Days" episodes. Is it a Seeburg also? Looks like the first jukebox I ever saw when I was 4 yr old, and that one was a Seeburg.
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Post# 29102-4/17/2003-23:35 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: FIRST VIDEO OF THE SPRING
MESSAGE: Sum mo Spike Jones pieces, perhaps? I love that guy.
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Post# 29103-4/17/2003-23:38 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: My favorite whirlpool
MESSAGE: Congrats on your find, sir.
The recirculating lint filter not only channels water into the tub during agitation, but all the way through the drain portion until the last bit of water is out of the tub.
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Post# 29104-4/17/2003-23:39 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: My favorite whirlpool
MESSAGE: Congrats on your find, sir.
What year is it?
The recirculating lint filter not only channels water into the tub during agitation, but all the way through the drain portion until the last bit of water is out of the tub.
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Post# 29105-4/18/2003-00:09 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: My favorite whirlpool
MESSAGE: Hi gadgetmad,
Thanks for the reply, I'll have to check out whats going on with that filter, it would be cool to see it work. Honestly I don't know what year the machine is, I'm just glad i have it.
Its funny i get the same feeling i remember when i enter the garage and see the machine just sitting there waiting for a load of clothes, pretty cool i guess =)
~Steven
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Post# 29106-4/18/2003-00:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire
MESSAGE: It might just take a little longer to dry, but it would still work. I've been to New Orleans in the summer and truthfully can't imagine a Filtrator making life easier, but it's still a bit of history...
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Post# 29107-4/18/2003-02:41 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: Have you ever tried using no chlorine bleach, but instead something like Oxiclean? I find oxygen bleach to be less stressful on clothes than chlorine bleach.
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Post# 29108-4/18/2003-02:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire (link)
MESSAGE: Nice machine. Here's the link.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2316477828
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Post# 29109-4/18/2003-02:45 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire (Ooooops)
MESSAGE: I didn't see there was already one posted....
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Post# 29110-4/18/2003-02:53 ||| mrcoffee (Flint)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire (I wish...)
MESSAGE: Well, I don't know where you get all the room for those Frigidaires, CleanteamofNY. I would be happy to just own one.
I am currently getting my GE FilterFlo cleaned out, and ready to run. removed the agitator, and cleaned out a lot of gunk off of the shaft, and the bottom of the tub. On the other hand, the rest of it actually looked pretty good!
There is a small part that sits at the bottom of the agitator, and it's designed to stop the bottom of from going all over the place in the tub. I had to epoxy it together, because it was badly worn and I'm not sure where to get the part. Well, I guess I'll have to check out the local used appliance dealer to see if they got a part for it. And they DO have a nice stack of mini-tubs!
So, can anybody tell me if J-B Weld epoxy will hold a plastic part together that fits at the bottom of the agitator, to keep it from wondering off while the machine is going? Let me know. And if I can get the camera to work, and the scanner to cooperate, I'll upload a shot of the critter in action if anybody's interested.
MrCoffee
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Post# 29111-4/18/2003-03:03 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: FIRST VIDEO OF THE SPRING
MESSAGE: Loved what I heard, but couldn't view it. This antique computer lacks some software again. Do you think there will be a classic computer club in the future? LOL
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Post# 29112-4/18/2003-03:11 ||| mrcoffee (Flint)
SUBJECT: RE: FIRST VIDEO OF THE SPRING (If I had my way...)
MESSAGE: There most certainly would be a classic computer club, foraloysius. Actually, I enjoy collecting old minicomputers such as VAXes, AS/400s, and DataGeneral. My current collection only consists of a DEC AlphaServer 1000A, with three VT-420 terminals. Hoping to secure a classic IBM AS/400 if it can be done (the shipping is deplorable on them, though!).
Now wouldn't it be fun to host pictures of you washing machine collection on your very own classic mainframe computer?
MrCoffee
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Post# 29113-4/18/2003-05:36 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: As Usual........
MESSAGE: Well, Robert, as usual I am about 5 steps behind everyone else in sending you birthday wishes. I hope it was a great celebration and that all your wishes come true for the coming year
Anthony
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Post# 29114-4/18/2003-05:39 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: And Let Us Forget....
MESSAGE: Again a bit late, but Passover wishes for all of our club members who celebrate - Even a R.C. like me always is moved by this historic and profound event........
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Post# 29115-4/18/2003-06:22 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire (I wish...)
MESSAGE: I wished that I own a few of them MrCoffee, but I only own one that I will be picking up from Rochester, New York when I go on vacation this May!
This has been one long winter for all of us and the Department of Sanitation got me on lock down since they extended night plow into the next month. so........., I will have to wait until then to make that trip far north. :-((
Larry
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Post# 29116-4/18/2003-07:04 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: hi there.....i have never tried oxygen bleach.....do it really work??...i am old fashioned.....like lots of water in the tub and lots of suds....and i also prefer powder over liquid detergents....
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Post# 29117-4/18/2003-08:18 ||| steved (Albany, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire DW seal needed
MESSAGE: hey Peter, I dont have a seal kit, but the old part # for the "Z" and "B" series is the same.... 5876984, in case anyone have some misc parts.... SteveD
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Post# 29118-4/18/2003-08:20 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Birthday Wishes
MESSAGE: Thanks to everyone for all the wonderful birthday wishes!
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Post# 29119-4/18/2003-08:27 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: And Let Us Forget.... (Easter weekend)
MESSAGE: I work half day today (Good Friday) and the other half
SIX FLAGS!!! YEAH!!!!
I'll be there enjoying the Christian music festival along with the roller coasters.
Having fun in the Land Of Rust.
EEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!! <<< how a girl screams on a roller coaster.
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Post# 29120-4/18/2003-08:31 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: NEW SOUND FILES (Frigidaire?)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Did you ever get the Frigidaire record transfered?
I thought that you had a record and the slides that went with the first Frigidaire automatic washer?
Did I dream this?
Man...I don't want to need to start taking that medication again! :)
Have a great weekend!
Brent
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Post# 29121-4/18/2003-09:30 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: My favorite whirlpool
MESSAGE: You mean the one where you see the machine and there's a huge mound of clothes in front of it, signalling that it will be started up many times that day?
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Post# 29122-4/18/2003-09:35 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: Oxidizers have been getting a bad rap on tv these days - Ive seen two different ads laying the smack down on 'em. But, Ive always had good experiences with OxiClean the one or two times Ive used it way back in the past. Nowadays, whatever powder I use usually has a bleach alternative built in it.
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Post# 29123-4/18/2003-09:37 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: And Let Us Forget.... (Easter weekend)
MESSAGE: Man, Im jealous. I havent had Good Friday off since I was in grade school.
Yes, Happy Passover and Happy Resurrection Day to all and to all a good weekend.
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Post# 29124-4/18/2003-10:41 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (Oxygen bleach)
MESSAGE: Yes, I think it really works, although it needs some more time than normal bleach, but it causes less wear and tear. Overhere in Europe chlorine bleach is hardly used anymore for laundry, all regular detergents contain oxygen bleach. And no yellow whites here.
BTW, I love suds as part of the wash drama, but suds don't clean. I love the pictures of the soapcakes, but it's a sign that too much detergent is used and that can prevent good cleaning. Besides that it's very important to rinse well, if there is detergent left in the garment that can also cause more than normal wear and tear and besides that it attracts dirt.
I use both powders and liquids. I like the cleaning power of powder, but for the more delicate stuff I use liquid. Especially while the liquids seem to rinse out more easily.
Louis
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Post# 29125-4/18/2003-10:47 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire DW seal needed (Peter will look in charleston )
MESSAGE: I will be glad to stop by and dig thru next week
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Post# 29126-4/18/2003-11:32 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire DW seal needed
MESSAGE: Gratzie, Steve! I haven't time to dig thru my Tech-Talks yet... Thanks for the part number!
-ph
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Post# 29127-4/18/2003-11:33 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire DW seal needed (Peter will look in charleston )
MESSAGE: Thanks, Phillipe!
-ph
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Post# 29128-4/18/2003-11:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we have obtained good laundering results through the use of the "Oxy" type products.
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Post# 29129-4/18/2003-11:41 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire
MESSAGE: AMEN! Mark
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Post# 29130-4/18/2003-11:42 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: FIRST VIDEO OF THE SPRING
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, why when we think of the possibilities of that! Your post has given me pause to consider the computers that have come in gone in the last 15-20 years, and how many we'd already forgotten about, and how funny some of them (already) look!
QEOM
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Post# 29131-4/18/2003-11:50 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: Terry (tlee618) I believe it was, originally recommended it to me; I think it's a great laundry boost. Bob (Appnut) tried it and decided he liked bleach better, so I guess it's a matter of preference. I do sometimes use bleach, and it has properties that other products can't duplicate. But I like the "Oxy" stuff for a lot of things, and it is of course fabric safe.
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Post# 29132-4/18/2003-11:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: And Let Us Forget.... (Easter weekend)
MESSAGE: Have fun Jason! I forgot you live in a much different climate, our amusement park does not open til Memorial Day weekend. Enjoy your Easter weekend. Scott
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Post# 29133-4/18/2003-11:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: Chris, what have the ads said about the products?
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Post# 29134-4/18/2003-11:52 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: And Let Us Forget.... (Easter weekend)
MESSAGE: Happy Holidays, Chris and all!
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Post# 29135-4/18/2003-15:52 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: NEW SOUND FILES (Frigidaire?)
MESSAGE: Don't call in that refill yet, you weren't dreaming! I do have a couple sets of Frigidaire training and sales filmstrips and record sets, but haven't had them transfered to CD. I found out that to have it done by a company here in town was going to cost $40-50 each and so I opted for buying a vintage Magnavox "Illustravox" record player and filmstrip projector in one unit. I can now show the filmstrips and play the 16" records as they would have been originally - it's quite a treat. Even if I could make digital copies of the records, the washer ones are 45 minutes long so it would take days to download on a dial-up.
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Post# 29136-4/18/2003-18:36 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: FIRST VIDEO OF THE SPRING
MESSAGE: It didn't work on my computer either, just sound. And I have a 1 year old Toshiba 1900 laptop. I wonder what it is, Quick Time movie player nor Windows media player will play the movie.
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Post# 29137-4/18/2003-18:48 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: FIRST VIDEO OF THE SPRING
MESSAGE: When I was in elementary school, the school had like 100 apple computers from 1987! They hardly did anything. The only thing we EVER did on them was played oregon trail. The graphics on super nintendo are probably better LOL. They were going to throw them out and I got a free one hehe. Some of them were those ones where the keyboard was built into the computer, they looked very funny. Others only had a floppy disk drive. (the floppy disks were actually floppy and were like 8 inches big!) But the school finally jumped into the present in 1999, they bought a whole bunch of new IBMs with high speed internet, one per room. (there were only about 30 rooms, although about 10 of them were portables.) Oh the memories hehe. When you compare new computers to old ones, there is a massive amount of power difference. New computers can do SOO much more compared to older ones. But most new washers can't do much more than older ones. (most vintage washers can do more than new ones.)
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Post# 29138-4/18/2003-18:48 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: VIDEO
MESSAGE: It's made with the windows XP movie maker...using a regular webcam and computer mic - nothing fancy at all...I have it configured for dialup speed service, which makes the smallest files size available...
'47 Bendix, '55 Kenmore, '95 ASKO & '96 Equator all washing as I type...3 out of 4 front loaders ain't bad....
B
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Post# 29139-4/18/2003-19:32 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: FIRST VIDEO OF THE SPRING
MESSAGE: I wonder if you need the very latest version of Windows Media Player? I did update mine just a few weeks ago, and the video worked just fine for me.
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Post# 29140-4/18/2003-20:10 ||| mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: I'm expecting ..........another Frigidaire (I see...)
MESSAGE: Well, that one that you got in Rhochester is a find indeed. So hopefully, you'll be able to get it and fire that critter up!
I ran my FilterFlo! Yes indeed, the thing rinses like no Tomorrow folks. Needless to say, it's mine forever now! Man I whish they still made washing machines with that can rinse as well as this one.
MrCoffee
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Post# 29141-4/18/2003-20:15 ||| mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: There is none better then Cheer for a "modern" detergent, rossroberts. In fact, it's the only brand I'm currently using. It suds well without oversudsing, yet will rinse cleanly.
I don't like liquid detergents either. They don't produce the right viscosity in the water. The water has more the texture of glass cleaner then wash water!
MrCoffee
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Post# 29142-4/18/2003-20:24 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: NEW SOUND FILES (Frigidaire? What a treat!)
MESSAGE: Greg,
I did not think that they were that long.
So you did get the player?
That is sooo cool!
Hey, just think! When we have the convention at your house, that will be just one of the Hi-lites! :)
Have a great weekend!
Brent
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Post# 29143-4/18/2003-20:27 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: FIRST VIDEO OF THE SPRING (Way cute Bob!)
MESSAGE: That was a great video!
You laundry center looks great!
Have a great holiday weekend.
Brent
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Post# 29144-4/18/2003-20:46 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: VIDEO
MESSAGE: Windows XP executed a download for Media Player 9 on my PC and your video played without a hitch. Enjoyed it! I thought I saw the '55 KM. :-> Thanks!
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Post# 29145-4/18/2003-20:54 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: My favorite whirlpool
MESSAGE: yea theres that one, I remember my aunt wanting me to go somewhere i didn't want to go so i told her if she had a load for each cycle I'd go, that machines only a three cycle so i didn't get to wash much that time.
Its just funny that I remember being a kid and grandpa would pull his caddy into the garage and I'd get out and look at the machine and the desert air smelled nice and i have that picture in my head, it smells the same and looks the same when i enter the garage now =)
~Steven
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Post# 29146-4/18/2003-20:57 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: My favorite whirlpool
MESSAGE: What a nice thought...
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Post# 29147-4/18/2003-21:12 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: latest version of WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER
MESSAGE: I bet that's the trouble...you gotta have the very latest windows media player...and lord help you if you have a mac...I know there's a plug-in for that to make it work, much like when we windows people need to play one of you mac peoples quick time videos....
anyway..all my babys behaved perfectly tonight, once again, and I'm really enjoying the new 5 dollar pink Philco AM radio too...
; - )
Anyway, glad some of you were able to make it work without trouble, and also very glad you enjoyed it. That's just the tip of the icebox....
PEACE
B
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Post# 29148-4/18/2003-21:22 ||| mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: FIRST VIDEO OF THE SPRING (But those were only home computers)
MESSAGE: And computers like the ones you described don't have much collector value. The ones with the 8" floppies might have some value, however.
Like vintage washers, vintage computers go up in value as the supply decreases. They stopped making the DEC PDP-8 back in 1984, but to find an original would demand top dollar, no less then $1,800.00! So if you see a computer with lights, and a tape drive and a bunch of switches on the front panel, and it's either a Prime, IBM, Data General, or DEC, SAVE IT. You will not regret it, and it WILL become a part of your collection of Frigidaires.
MrCoffee
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Post# 29149-4/18/2003-22:43 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: hi mr coffee....i will try cheer one of these days...
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Post# 29150-4/18/2003-22:46 ||| rossroberts (Palm Springs, California)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (Oxygen bleach)
MESSAGE: hi louis....i am sure too that washing machines in europe are very different from those here in usa....i remember machines in england and germany that heated the wash water...spent a few summers in england and with a servis twin tub....it was lots of fun......ross
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Post# 29151-4/18/2003-23:41 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Friday Visiting:
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Members, I wanted to share with you that Todd {washerlover} and I got to meet on Friday. He came from where he lives in Lake County area to Sacramento {about 2-hours drive} and spent the afternoon with me. We went to
4-Used Appliance Dearler's here and what a find we both had for ourselves and a lot of fun meeting and getting to finally put a Face to the E-Mails and Phone Talking. I'm not going to spoil his findings, but mine was a newer "Classic" of a 1992 Mechanical Controls Lady-K/90-Series "D-D" Washer, in Almond, just exactly like one along with the Matched Gas Dryer I bought new in 1992. I put a deposit on the Washer on Friday, and can pick it up on June 7th. They are closing until then after tomorrow and I told the Guys Son that I needed to wait until I get my Income Tax Refund before I can pay the total, so he called his Father to see if I could put a deposit on it to hold it and he was able to do that. I got rid of them in 1996, making a Trade-In for a new Amana "TOL" Mechanical Control Matched Set with Gas Dryer. {long story about there time with me, won't go into it though}.
I also got to show Todd my 1965 Lady-K Avocado Combo and my "MOL" 1967 Kenmore Combo {still in storage for now}. He was really impressed with both units. I told him after I can get my Garage cleaned out, I'm going to put another Dedicated
220-Volt Circuit, so I can run both together. I still need to finish checking out the 1967 "MOL" Combo, and get out the rest of the old Lint out of the System and hope it doesn't need any other Repairs. I might be asking Bob {unimatic} for some advise later on again. I've never really gotten to operate it yet, other than to just quickly, to see if it worked at all.
We went to one place in particular and talked to the Woman for a while and she started laughing when we told her about the Club Site and about the "Wash-In's" meetings that are held around the areas and what the meetings involved of bringing our Laundry to check out the Washers and Dryers, but she thought that it was neat too. She asked me to give her my Name and Phone Number and any idea of Washers and Dryers that I'm looking for and she will give me a call, if she comes across any, so I gave her my name and Phone Number and some of what I'm looking for. I also wrote down some of Todd's wish Machines too, since he is Long-Distance for her, she could contact me and I can contact him.
Todd will no doubt be Posting after the weekend, he is visiting Family around this area through Saturday and then going back home to Lake County, Saturday Night.
It was a real "Good Friday" for both of us...
My best to everyone and a wonderful Easter weekend...
Steve, SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 29152-4/19/2003-00:43 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (God is like Tide...Our Lady of the Laundry Room)
MESSAGE: Well bleach wasn't working on what I needed it for. So, now I'm pre-soaking in Biz for several hours then washing in very hot water with an "Oxi" booster and soaking for another hour in that. Better results.
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Post# 29153-4/19/2003-00:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: My favorite whirlpool
MESSAGE: Steven, thanks for sharing the memory!!! Bob
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Post# 29154-4/19/2003-02:17 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Frigidaire lint filters)
MESSAGE: Speaking of Frigidaire, how did the lint filters on those work, since it wsn't the usual screen thing?
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Post# 29155-4/19/2003-02:32 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: VIDEO
MESSAGE: Well I have XP and all the other movies have worked. It should work, who knows though.
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Post# 29156-4/19/2003-02:32 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: FIRST VIDEO OF THE SPRING
MESSAGE: I'll try that. Thanks
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Post# 29157-4/19/2003-02:34 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Working their best)
MESSAGE: Gee, your parents must think they have the "Teen-ager from Heaven"!
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Post# 29158-4/19/2003-02:44 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Older Kenmore "Bolt-Down" (Whatever happend to...)
MESSAGE: So does anybody know what ultimately happened to:
Bendix
Philco
Blackstone
Hamilton
Easy
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Post# 29159-4/19/2003-02:48 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: New "HE" Detergents: (Working their best)
MESSAGE: Maybe they do, I haven't asked them. My dad isn't exactly "Mr. Chips" either:-) So it is probably good that they have a son that can do some small repairs and cleanings.
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Post# 29160-4/19/2003-03:30 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer (suds down the window)
MESSAGE: Speaking of Windows, why don't the Maytag Neptunes have one?
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Post# 29161-4/19/2003-03:40 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer (suds down the window)
MESSAGE: Bacause they're Maytags and Maytag doesn't want us to see us what happens inside their washers.
Louis
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Post# 29162-4/19/2003-04:11 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Dash POD/58 Lady K (Balance switch)
MESSAGE: I recently replaed the balance/kickout switch (relay) in my 1978 electonic LK. It was expensive, almost $50, and in allmy years of working on Kenmores, I've NEVER seen that switch go bad. Took me quite a bit of staring at the wiring diagram before I figured it out (machine would come on but wouldn't fill) After replacing it, I could see that the old switch had had a literal melt-down. It's the last switch inthe circuit before the current returns to the wall outlet. All the years of heavy current flowing through it (especially when the pump would seize or something else would happen that would make the motor draw enormous amounts of current) had actually melted the plastic housing just from the heat radiated from the metal parts. The main contact was held closed only by the springiness of the metal it was mounted on and the heat finally got to it to the point it wouldn't make contact anymore.
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Post# 29163-4/19/2003-04:23 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: KenMore Model 110. 82980120 Heavy Duty 80 Series (leaks)
MESSAGE: There are a LOT more places than just those 2 hoses where the machine can leak.
1. Basket drive seal where agitator shat goes through. In this case, you will see water dripping down agitator shaft when machine is full. This is a major job to fix, but not impossible. Plan to set aside an afternoon.
2 Anyplace where something is attached to the side of the outer tub. These include:
drain/recirculate check valve
tub-mounted self-cleaning filter
air dome for water level switch.
bleach/fabric softener dispenser hose(s)
drain manifold connection (on bottom)
If you have the Triple Dispenser or a cabinet mounted Self-cleaning filter, needless to say, check all the hoses that connect those components together.
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Post# 29164-4/19/2003-04:39 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: KenMore Model 110. 82980120 Heavy Duty 80 Series (leaks)
MESSAGE: Don't forget the pump. That is actually the most common leak on Direct Drive Kenmores. The agitator shaft rarely leaks on direct drives. I would take a look at the pump though, as well as the other things mentioned.
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Post# 29165-4/19/2003-04:48 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Old verses New Kitchen Aid dishwasher (KitchenAid "
new"
drying method)
MESSAGE: Ironically, the "new" drying method the current KD machines use is the method everybody else's machine has been using from the beginning, "baking" the dishes dry, sometimes with the help some air circulation in the tub by the impeller (in older machines) or tiny fans (in deluxe D & M manufactured machines). Whirlpool pretty much left the design of the KD's alone EXCEPT for the drying part. I remember that one of the big selling points in the Hobart era was no red hot drying element that could be touched.
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Post# 29166-4/19/2003-04:51 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Old verses New Kitchen Aid dishwasher (ASKO dishwashers)
MESSAGE: I've noticed that Consumer Reports shows a bad repair record for ASKO dishwashers
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Post# 29167-4/19/2003-05:33 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: My favorite whirlpool (Kenmore stackables)
MESSAGE: The mechanism on the portable machines is a miniature version of the large machines, with the exception that the belt is flat, ribbed (and quite thin), and both sides are used to drive the components, and it's tensioned with spring tensioner instead of the motor being adjustable. And yes, they spin MUCH faster than the full-sized machines do.
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Post# 29168-4/19/2003-05:39 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Old verses New Kitchen Aid dishwasher (ASKO dishwashers)
MESSAGE: I also saw that in comsumer reports but since I only paid 10.00 for the dishwasher at salvation army I thought I would give it a whirl. after running it thru its paces its has proven to be a great work horse and best dishwasher. So now is the hunt for a Superba kitchen aid so I can rebuild and have it as a spare. But the dream machine for me would be a westy roll out. very hard to find.
Happy easter to yall from the south
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Post# 29169-4/19/2003-05:43 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (front loading detergents)
MESSAGE: Somehow I think we're being scammed that front loading machines need "special" detergent. I seem to remember "back in the day" that the directions on the box said to simply use half the amount of detergent for front loaders than for top loaders, even when all detergents were high sudsing.
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Post# 29170-4/19/2003-05:46 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: belt drive Kenmores and replacing the belt
MESSAGE: I have mananged to make a complete working I think 68 BOL line kenmore (have to check the model number again) Here is my question to replace a belt on one of these guys do you have to drop the whole transmission?
2) if a Whirlpool/Kenmore has a rough time getting the spin going and the belts are tight would that mean dropping the whole trasmission and replacing parts there also. I never dropped a trasmission before. Help!
PHilippe
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Post# 29171-4/19/2003-05:52 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Our Lady of the Laundry Room (Oxygen bleach)
MESSAGE: FYI, Sodium Perborate=oxygen bleach
Oxygen bleach DOES work, but not as well as chlorine bleach. BUT, it's safe for all fabrics, unlike chlorine bleach. Main disadvantage, it's temperature sensitive and doesn't work very well in cold water. The hotter, the better.
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Post# 29172-4/19/2003-06:05 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: KenMore Model 110. 82980120 Heavy Duty 80 Series (leaks)
MESSAGE: Actually, I didn't even think that it might be a DD machine, all the advice I gave is based on belt drive machines.
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Post# 29173-4/19/2003-06:07 ||| mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Maytag Top Loading H-A Washer (suds down the window)
MESSAGE: Easy solution: Get a top load Maytag and disable the lid switch. The TOL Atlantas looks quite interesting inside, as it has an agitator that could almost look like that of a Frigidaire! Well, you definitely won't get the same action though. On a Neptune, I'm afraid that you'll have to do some "kitbashing" (as they call it in model railroad terminology). Get a piece of glass, and a good cutting tourch, and go to work!
MrCoffee
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Post# 29174-4/19/2003-06:11 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: belt drive Kenmores and replacing the belt (KM belt replacement)
MESSAGE: You have to drop the gearcase about 2 inches to replace the belt. I've done it so many times, I can almost do it blindfolded. It's not that it's very HARD to do, but there's a lot of stuff (struts, bolts, etc) to remove inorder to drop gearcase. Be VERY careful that the little ball stuck in the side of the agitator shaft doesn't drop out and get lost. Or that you break the teeth off the plastic clutch yoke shaft retainer (may not be plastic if it's an older machine)
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Post# 29175-4/19/2003-07:36 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: belt drive Kenmores and replacing the belt (KM belt replacement)
MESSAGE: I think I have got all the struts and bolts off of it but there seems to be something holding it on still cannot seem to jar it loose. Well I just bid on a belt drive book just now on ebay. but going outside to see if I can yank this puppy out
Thanks so much for the info
Philippe
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Post# 29176-4/19/2003-08:47 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: belt drive Kenmores and replacing the belt
MESSAGE: Hi Philippe
You might not have a big problem on your hands.
I have not played with a Whirlpool for a few years but from memory there is an adjustment for the spin clutch. There is a stud standing on the transmission, and the clutch fork (car terminology, not sure what it's really called) pivots off it.
You can adjust the height of the clutch fork on the stud by loosening the locknut and adjusting the stud, then re-tightening the locknut.
What happens is that when spin is engaged, the clutch fork drops and the drive to the spin basket is lowered on to the spinning centre pulley. The adjustment controls the height of the fork, if the adjustment is out, the fork doesn't come down far enough and the clutch slips. Over the years the clutch wears and the adjustment needs to be re-done.
Re replacing the belt - can't you just remove a spacer to thread the belt in to place? I remember being overwhelmed by the thought of replacing the belt on a WP I owned, but it needed to be done. I slowly pulled the whole darn thing apart and adjusted the transmission and changed its oil while I was at it, but in doing so I found one of the mounting bolts had a removable spacer (it had looked like it was welded in place which had confused me) and with the spacer removed, you could disentangle the belt without dropping the tranny. I might be completely wrong about this, but I think that is how I found it. It might be unique to the Australian version, too.
I'm about to look at a neighbour's old Whirlpool soon,as it is leaking. I will check it out when I'm there. (But that might turn out to be a Simpson clone, it's about that age.)
Chris
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Post# 29177-4/19/2003-08:53 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Birthday Wishes
MESSAGE: Hi Robert!
I haven't visited for a couple of days so I missed your big day. Happy 40th!
I turned 40 a few days ago too. I don't feel any older. Or wiser.
I don't know if Judy Small music is available in USA, but she does a great song called "life begins at 40". You might like to chase it up. It's on the "Second Wind" album.
Best Wishes,
Chris.
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Post# 29178-4/19/2003-09:11 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: belt drive Kenmores and replacing the belt
MESSAGE: I agree with you on the spacer if my memory hasn't failed me. The 68 Whirlpool set we had I changed the belt on twice. The first time all the way then found the spacer. About an hour job the second time around. This washer washed great for years for us but by baby #4 and all the diapers we bought a larger capacity machine to do it all with. I was lucky on getting the parts as Whirlpool/Kenmore are so close in the guts of the machine. About a mile from our house was a Sears parts store so I was able to keep things going. By baby 6 we had moved from the Wards (WCI) washer to a Hotpoint. The Wards was awful on clothes and didn't wash well. Hotpoint lasted until droped off moving van and crushed the top.
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Post# 29179-4/19/2003-10:57 ||| filekar1 (italy)
SUBJECT: OLD CONSTRUCTA WASHER
MESSAGE: Hi Boys This is an old constructa washer Great WASHER with kockautomat, that boil the whites. Please Foraloysius tell me something about this washer, If you Know this. It was a model that were sold in Europe in the early '60.
My grandmother had one too like this.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2317509128&category=8419
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Post# 29180-4/19/2003-10:59 ||| filekar1 (italy)
SUBJECT: another old washer on e-bay
MESSAGE: this is an old Zanker washer, an AEG brandt.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2318025413&category=30326
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Post# 29181-4/19/2003-14:29 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Birthday Wishes
MESSAGE: Well then Chris, many happy returns on the occasion of your birthday too.
Louis
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Post# 29182-4/19/2003-14:33 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Old verses New Kitchen Aid dishwasher (KitchenAid )
MESSAGE: Our Maytag has a blower AND a heating element. During dry, the blower goes no matter what setting the dry cycle is on. On power dry, the element turns on, on energy save dry, only the blower runs (and the latter does a very poor job of drying.)
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Post# 29183-4/19/2003-14:35 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: OLD CONSTRUCTA WASHER
MESSAGE: I'm sorry Filekar, I don't know anything about this machine. I remember that our neighbours used to have one like this, but it was replaced even before I could read.
Louis
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Post# 29184-4/19/2003-14:37 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: KenMore Model 110. 82980120 Heavy Duty 80 Series (leaks)
MESSAGE: The model # indicates to me that it is a direct drive. (It's model # is 82980120, the first and third #s indicate the year it was made, '89.) I don't think any belt drives were being made then (at least, not in the US. Our belt drive was made in Canada in 1988. I am pretty sure it was one of the very last belt drives ever made.)
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Post# 29185-4/19/2003-18:03 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: another old washer on e-bay
MESSAGE: What an interesting washer! Is it collectable over there? Can you estimate what it would cost in greenbacks?
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Post# 29186-4/19/2003-21:25 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Old verses New Kitchen Aid dishwasher (did not replace My KA either )
MESSAGE: If you paid $10 for an ASKO dishwasher, then you paid way too much. I'm glad that one is working for you and if it continues to do so, then it will be the first one that I have ever heard of! Now get out there and find you a good old Superba workhorse! Mark Lightedcontrols
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Post# 29187-4/19/2003-21:38 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Old verses New Kitchen Aid dishwasher (KitchenAid )
MESSAGE: Thats because the dry heater was in the blower housing.
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Post# 29188-4/19/2003-22:00 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: another old washer on e-bay (Interesting Washer's)
MESSAGE: Hi! filekar1, this is Steve "SactoTeddyBear" of the Club Site. I'm so impressed at a lot of the European Washers and Dryers, compared to our's here in America. It is too bad we don't have more similar ones of each in our areas, besides the few that are available here at least. It is a lot of Fun for me to read all of these Postings from around the World, getting all of this info about other similar but different Machines and how they operate and somewhat compare to ours here and "visa-versa" with ours that you read about too.
Best Regards, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 29189-4/20/2003-02:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: another old washer on e-bay
MESSAGE: Yes, but I'm not sure if Zanker was already owned by AEG back then.
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Post# 29190-4/20/2003-02:12 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: another old washer on e-bay
MESSAGE: I think 1 Euro is around $1.07 at the moment. Don't you love that timer?
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Post# 29191-4/20/2003-08:23 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: another old washer on e-bay (ZANKER)
MESSAGE: Oh, MAN! I'd love to have that Zanker washer. Sure looks like it means business! What a joy to see these exotic machines from all around the globe. Thanks for sharing these with us Yanks, over here.
Happy Easter, Everyone!
Fran Allison says - Here Comes Peter(H770) Cottontail...; - )
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Post# 29192-4/20/2003-12:28 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: I GOT A 1/18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: I CAN'T BELEIVE IT! I, ME JUST GOT A 1/18! Excuse me need to go and change............................ I AM SOOOOO HAPPY! I AM SO LUCKY! I, A 12 YEAR OLD BOY JUST GOT A WORKING WHITE 1/18 WASHER! Excuse me I need to go change again...................... I DID IT!
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Post# 29193-4/20/2003-12:44 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: I GOT A 1/18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (YAY!)
MESSAGE: Wow, where did you find this washer Jamie?
Are you able to take pictures of it and post it?
I'm very excited for you, get back and tell us all about it!!!
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Post# 29194-4/20/2003-12:45 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: I GOT A 1/18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (EASTER 1-18)
MESSAGE: Excellent, Jamie! Where did you find it?
That's wonderful for you, Mr.
Whatever became of your little belt drive portable that went kaput? Did that get fixed?
Congratulations on the Frigidaire!
B
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Post# 29195-4/20/2003-12:45 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: I GOT A 1/18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Congrats! I used to have one of those,It was a harvest gold 71 model. I loved it!
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Post# 29196-4/20/2003-13:14 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: I GOT A 1/18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Congrats!)
MESSAGE: Wow! Congrats Jame, but don't keep us in suspense ... details, please give us the details --- where? how? and please post the pics a.s.a.p.
BTW, what did you do with that portable that didn't work quite right?
Congrats again, have fun, and enjoy!
Mike
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Post# 29197-4/20/2003-15:32 ||| Mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: American Kitchens Roto Tray
MESSAGE: Does anyone have any pic's or info on this dishwasher ? Was there a spray tube on the top rack to spin it like Kenmores early ones. I have a dear friend looking for this type (early Kenmore) Anything anyone can do to help in this matter would be greatly appreciated. Michael
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Post# 29198-4/20/2003-15:45 ||| lbcarguy (Long Beach, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Archey's washer (Seeburg)
MESSAGE: Hi,
The first couple years of Happy days (with Rock Around the Clock as the opening music) is tricky with respect to Id-ing the juke box type. Why, they used two different jukebox brands (think of trying to use a filter flo lint catcher on a jet cone).
The record is pulled out and laid onto the turntable on a late 50s - early 60s rockola (or possibly an AMI, like in the movie ghost) but the wide shots are of a 1952 Seeburg model C. They probably did this because the Seeburgs play the records vertically and you cannot really read the record label but they were the most popular juke in the 50s (outselling most others combined) so it was used in the opening wide shots.
In Arnold's the juke most often seen is a 1954 Seeburg G. It has two light bulbs added into the record playing area that are not original to the design. They flash on - off.
Now, anyone know of a 63 GE washer for sale anywhere?
Mike
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Post# 29199-4/20/2003-17:20 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: RE: I GOT A 1/18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Suspence, or no suspence, that is the question.)
MESSAGE: Well I found it in the newspaper for $69.00 And called and asked about it. He said that the agitator moved up and downn and that it works like a charm. Well, immediately I jumped on the deal and schedueled a visit for 5:00pm today. I went there, saw it and was so happy! It needs a new paint job(White), I needs a new Pulsator ( sadly I don't have one that it in working condition.), and it needs a new timer, I beleive, I need to cycle it through first. It does not have a window in the lid, and yes it has two speeds.
The little portable is still needing repair, but is being used on the permanent press cycle which works.
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Post# 29200-4/20/2003-17:37 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: American Kitchens Roto Tray
MESSAGE: I didn't think of it till you mentioned the KM. Does anyone know if the Kenmore roto rack was a DM or an American Kitchen, or is the AK a DM? And I still think that somewhere there has got to be some way cool tecnical stuff from the company that made the DMs.
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Post# 29201-4/20/2003-19:15 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: I GOT A 1/18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I GOT A 1/18)
MESSAGE: Wow - Jamie thats realy Great
Best of Luck with it
Peter
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Post# 29202-4/20/2003-19:16 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: American Kitchens Roto Tray (D&M)
MESSAGE: Well, I know that the Kenmore with the roto-rack WAS made by D&M (design and manufacturing), and I even remember the part number from gemline for the pump impellor & seal kit to rebuild one - DW-101. Many's the DW-101 I've installed due to broken glass destroying the drain impellor....due to lack of wash filter....
; - ).
Indeed, the American Kitchen unit does look suspiciously like the D&M design. Notice the American kitchen dishwasher is fitted into those wonderful avco cabinets...
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Post# 29203-4/20/2003-19:17 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: American Kitchens Roto Tray (American Kitchens Roto Tray )
MESSAGE: I do know that the Kenmore roto rack was a DM machine
Peter
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Post# 29204-4/20/2003-20:04 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: I GOT A 1/18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: This is just grand Jamie! Enjoy!
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Post# 29205-4/20/2003-20:14 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: I GOT A 1/18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MESSAGE: Jamie, Congratulations!!! Just be patient for you to get the replacement parts you need to have the washer fully up and running again. It may take a bit of time. Bob
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Post# 29206-4/20/2003-21:23 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry:
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friends, I hope that everyone has had a real nice Easter Sunday, first of all.
I wanted to ask if anyone could recommend what to use to Sanitize a Washer's insides, before using it for Laundry? I have always used a Cycle with Detergent and Ammonia, or something like Pinesol or Mr. Clean. Would there be something else that someone prefer's or knows about to use? I would really appreciate any suggetions, if any other than what I've metioned that I've used through the many "Decades" of Repairing my findings. Maybe this will also help other's to find something more updated for us to all use too!!!
My best to all, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"...
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Post# 29207-4/20/2003-21:34 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry:
MESSAGE: Steve I don't how up to date it would be considered, but I've used Clorox for such purposes. Hope you had a nice holiday.
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Post# 29208-4/20/2003-21:38 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: I GOT A 1/18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ("
WOW"
what a find:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Jamie, congratlations on your finding a "1-18" Frigidaire Washer. I had bought a new Matched Set in the Mid-'70s in Avocado. OH, how I wish I had them now, besides several other Brands that I unfortunately before knowing about this great Club Site, got rid of them, due to not knowing about Parts availability.
What's wrong with the Pulsator? Is it broken in several places? By the way, I started my learnings when I was 15-years old, but I loved watching my Parents Bolt-Down Bendix back when I was about 4-years old, way before some of you were even being thought of {lol}... My first Washer I bought from a Thrift Store to learn the Parts and operation was a 1952 Kenmore. I paid $15.00 for it and it didn't really have anything wrong with it, when I checked it out, before plugging it in to check it's operation process.
Have fun working on it and like Bob "appnutt" mentioned, take you time and Parts will avail themselves in time. "Hi!" Bob, {see, I got it right this time, Bob} and all the other Bob's and everyone else too...
My best to you and way to go, Steve
"SactoTeddy Bear"...
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Post# 29209-4/20/2003-21:48 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (Re: Thank You Scott55405:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Scott55405, thank you for the {updated} info. I would think for some reason that Clorox would be totally able to Sanitize a Washer, but if it works for you, it would work for me too. Would you just use about like 1-cup or more, initally, to do that job and any Detergent too, or just the Clorox?
Best to you, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"...
P.S. I won't go into details about my Easter Sunday, but it just isn't like they used to be, as with all Holiday's with so many losses now, is all that I will mention. Thank Goodness for terrific Friends, not only on this Club Site, but where I live too and from places I've visited for Holiday's and Vacation's...
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Post# 29210-4/20/2003-21:58 ||| SarahW (Richmond VA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry:
MESSAGE: Never do this with clothes in the washer....it will destroy them....
But a washout with Dishwasher detergent in HOT water will sanitize a washer as it does your dishes.
Dishwasher powder, like Cascade, has not only chlorine bleach, but grease cutters and enzymes that will remove icky organic material and scum.
It really works...it helps break down cellulosic fibers (lint), too.
Run an extra cycle to make sure all traces of the dish detergent are out of the machine before you put any clothes in it.
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Post# 29211-4/20/2003-22:19 ||| mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (Re: Thank You Scott55405:)
MESSAGE: You would first want to run white vineger through the machine. Set it on its lowest setting, then cycle the water through it twice like you were cleaning out a coffee machine.
After that, take the whole top off and clean the parts that are above the tub where the water comes in and so forth. Soak those parts in a bath tub of water, then hand clean them thoroughly and dry them. Remove and clean the agitator and the agitator shaft as well. You would be surprised at how much gunk can accumulate in those parts! Reassemble the unit.
Hook the machine up, and grab a hose. Disable the lid switch. Engage the unit in spin, and while it is spinning, spray up and down the sides of the tub and the upper parts of the tub. This will "pressure clean" the outer tub, and rinse out the upper parts as well.
A final step would be to put the machine in the lowest water level setting, and add two cups of bleach. Run it through a regular cycle. By then, it should be ready to use.
MrCoffee
Oh, and this comes from taking in several older machines and fixing them up.
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Post# 29212-4/20/2003-22:35 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (CASCADE)
MESSAGE: Excellent posting, SarahW! That sounds like an great idea. It's important the water be HOT. I found this to be true recently when first waking the 1-18. Even though I had disassembled the machine and cleaned the tubs physically by hand first, then ran through a cold water test, when I first introduced HOT water & Oxyclean to the machine, small pieces of scum were released from inside the jetcone that came out in the water and looked like someone had thrown a dried sycamore leaf into the machine. It was disgusting, especially since I was running the white matress pad at the time...Cascade first, with hot water, and I'll bet I could have prevented that mess from occurring....
I ended up removing the agitator from the 1-18 again and cleaning it in the bathtub with DOW scrubbing bubbles and a brush on a spring (using rubber gloves, of course).
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/118/index.htm
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Post# 29213-4/20/2003-22:56 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (Re: Thank You Scott55405:)
MESSAGE: Yes some detergent, hot water and a cup of Clorox. :-)
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Post# 29214-4/20/2003-23:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (CASCADE)
MESSAGE: That does sound like a great idea. Makes perfect sense but probably never would have thought about it, LOL.
You did a very nice job of cleaning up that machine Bob, it looks brand new in the pictures!
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Post# 29215-4/21/2003-00:04 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (Enzyme dishwasher detergents)
MESSAGE: Sarah, Cascade and other major brands don't have chlroine bleach in them any more, enzymes are used to clean dishes. That's why plastic stuff doesn't get rid of tomato stains any more. Thus, the Cascade stuff in the little tube to clean plastic ware that has been stained.
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Post# 29216-4/21/2003-02:00 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (Enzyme dishwasher detergents)
MESSAGE: Actually, Cascade Complete has chlorine bleach in it. That would work the best.
(I'm amazed at all the other people who thought of Dishwasher detergent. That was my first idea too. I remember hearing that one a long time ago.)
Of course, taking the washer apart is the most thorough method, but the DW detergent would make it clothes and good smell worthy:-)
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Post# 29217-4/21/2003-07:04 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: I GOT A 1/18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (I am envious!!!!)
MESSAGE: CONGRATULATIONS JAMIE!!!!!! YOU FINALLY DID IT! Good luck with the restoration and we are all behind you if you need any help. Remember take your time and you will have a fantastic machine!
Dave
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Post# 29218-4/21/2003-07:18 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: I GOT A 1/18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (good for you)
MESSAGE: Congrats on your 1-18! When you get time, post the model number of the machine and we'll give you the year it was made.
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Post# 29219-4/21/2003-07:24 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (CASCADE)
MESSAGE: Your pictures look great - one of the nicest 1-18's I've seen, almost new!
If your machine came from a hard water area, the buildup in the jetcone isn't surprising - mine was so bad it looked like someone had carved it from stone. I've had very good luck with Comet Bathroom Cleaner on machines, strong, but not so strong it will damage porcelain and rubber parts and it disinfects as well.
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Post# 29220-4/21/2003-07:25 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: another old washer on e-bay
MESSAGE: This is too cool - such a vintage look too! Would this be a portable?
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Post# 29221-4/21/2003-09:24 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: another old washer on e-bay
MESSAGE: No, this was not a portable. I bet this machine is very heavy. Besides that it needs three phase 220V or 380V (4000 Watts heating element). It does a prewash, a wash and 5 rinses automatically and then you have to transfer the laundry to the spinner basket that spins the laundry dry at 1420rpm. I think this machine can do a boil wash (212F).
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Post# 29222-4/21/2003-11:42 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (Enzyme dishwasher detergents)
MESSAGE: Cascade Complete does not have bleach in it. It is a 100% enzyme detergent. Just about the only ones that do not have enzymes are regular cascade, some store brands and some original formulations, ie: Cascade.
Most of the detergent now has enzymes in them to work with the lower water temp and water requirements of today's dishwashers. Which means no more replacing leaky pump shaft seals from people who pre-rinse and then fill both cups full of bleach based detergent.
Wal Mart's Great Value brand now has enzymes and does an excellent job at cleaning for only 9 cents a load, compaired to Cascade Complete gel and powder, 35 and 25 cents per load respectivly.
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Post# 29223-4/21/2003-12:17 ||| Sarahw (Richmond VA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (Enzyme dishwasher detergents)
MESSAGE: http://www.herc.org/library/msds/cascadepwdr.htm
http://www.herc.org/library/msds/cascadegel.htm
Unless they changed the formula VERY recently, both Cascade poweder and Liguigel have chlorine bleach in 'em. (for the powder it's listed as hypochlorous acid.
I'll allow I missed any formula change that occurred. :)
If my info's outdated I'd like to know what's in it now...
LINK: http://Cascade still bleachy, or I am way out of loop
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Post# 29224-4/21/2003-12:30 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: SUNDAY SPIN COUNT
MESSAGE: This coming sunday the 27th Jeff & Tom are coming to my house here in Arlington & Jeff's bringing his strobotach so we can see what is the spinning speed of the various machines ..Anyone in the area wanna come out and join us? SarahW - you're only about an hour away - Welcome to the club, by the way. Only spin speed I know for sure is the Bendix Dialamatic, which features a 0 rpm spin speed during the extraction portion of the cycle.....
PEACE.
B
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Post# 29225-4/21/2003-13:44 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (1-18)
MESSAGE: wow bob,
thats one immaculate machine ya got there!
~Steven
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Post# 29226-4/21/2003-13:58 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (Enzyme dishwasher detergents)
MESSAGE: Yes, that's the original formula.
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Post# 29227-4/21/2003-16:12 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea?
MESSAGE: About 10 minutes into the eliptical crosstrainer today at the gym when the blood really hit my brain, it occured to me that Cascade may not be such a great idea for use in vintage machines that feature black bakelite agitators....I always avoid putting vintage bakelite handles into the dishwasher because the cascade burns off the shine from the bakelite, and in time, will turn it very dull and flat in color.....I'm betting that the same thing would happen to a black bakelite agitator if exposed to hot water and cascade....If I were to burn the shine off my '55 Kenmore agitator after all these years, it would upset me just a knotch or two..as it is still shiney to this day, nearly 50 years later...
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Post# 29228-4/21/2003-16:47 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: An WARNING Message to Applianceville
MESSAGE: My name is _______ and I had made a post in the appliances for sale area for a vintage Washer. I had gotten a number of
responses. However, most of those responses were from "importers from Africa." Anyway, i would just like to let you know, and the people who use the site know that it is a scam. These people are saying they will buy these items in order to transfer money that does not exist, which in turn will cause the person selling the item, to cover the amount in cash. One way of detecting this is, in my case, I was going to sell a washer for $100, they said they would send me a check for $9000, and that i take out my cut of it, and then send the balance to a person in Africa. But what would happen is the cashier check would be cashed, and then the balance sent. However, in the end, the money would not exist, and I would end up paying what was to be sent. However, i was able to catch this in time. This scam has been going on for 2 months. Basically, they are trying to transfer money, or have unsuspecting people transfer a set amount of money, when in reality they will end up sending a lot more. The bank and the FBI are trying to catch these people, but due to them being in Africa, it is difficult. I just wanted to let you know of this because I know a lot of people selling appliances on your website, and might end up in the same situation as I have. Basically, if someone says they will send you a lot more than you are asking for, and then request you to send the balance to someone else, its a scam.
I sent this for informational purposes so that no one else will fall into the same trap.
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Post# 29229-4/21/2003-18:17 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: An WARNING Message to Applianceville
MESSAGE: They contacted me,and I did not know where they got my E-mail address.I had not posted an ad.They must have taken it from the profile area.Anyway I figured it was some sort of scam,so I ignored it and deleted it. The next day they contacted me again.This time I responded,and told them if they contacted me again I would forward the E-mail to the FBI. That was last week,and I have not heard anything else from them.
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Post# 29230-4/21/2003-18:17 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea?
MESSAGE: Bob is right about Cascade. For those of you with vintage bakelite or melmac, there is a great dishwashing powder called "Seventh Generation" that I use exclusively now. It gets the dishes super-clean, but is kinder on my vintage stuff.
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Post# 29231-4/21/2003-19:30 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea?
MESSAGE: I concur. We used nothing but original formula Cascade in our 57 HP dishwasher. It discolored the bakelite impeller and made it extremely brittle.
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Post# 29232-4/21/2003-19:51 ||| SarahW (Richmond VA)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea?
MESSAGE: ooooh, I didn't even consider bakelite-ruining...
Thinking that chlorine bleach was a fixture of
"classic" laundry days, I didn't give it a second thought.
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Post# 29233-4/21/2003-19:51 ||| Tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Come to Papa
MESSAGE: Thanks to Jimmy (filter-flo) for selling me that Skinny Mini that I have pining for. Now, more incentive to get that workshop built so that I can start housing these machines. My partner says that if I get one more machine, he's leaving ... I'll miss him. haha I'm calling Craters & Freighters and shipping him to Bob in Texas. haha
Thanks again, Jimmy, for your kindness. Also, I would like to say that although I don't post much, I have met some really nice guys through this site and I hope to get to know more members in the future. Todd
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Post# 29234-4/21/2003-20:10 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Friday Visiting: (Lady Kenmore Twins)
MESSAGE: Hello All,
I have to follow up on SactoTeddyBear's message about Friday's visit. We went to quite a few used appliance stores in Sacramento and saw a few interesting things until the last place we went -- then I saw them. A turquoise Lady Kenmore pair circa 1965! They were in the back repair room and will be available for sale later this week. I am waiting to hear when they are ready and hope to purchase them and bring them home this weekend. I'll keep you posted and am so excited that I may finally have some Classic Appliances! (I currently own a 1999 GE washer & dryer and a 1984 Whirlpool washer and dryer)
Take are and I'll let you know what happens. In the meantime, the search continues!
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Post# 29235-4/21/2003-20:11 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Come to Papa (A Filter Flo moment)
MESSAGE: Congratulations on finding a machine you have wanted. Leave it to Jimmy to have what you need. Since I joined almost a year ago I too have been shown alot of kindness by several club members. I have known Jimmy since Judy Garland introduced us several years ago. Last year he told me about this club, and here I am planning a laundry room remodel to house more machines! He has been so very kind and helpful in so many ways, and I consider him a close friend. Just as folks have their differences in the club, it is also important to tell each other, and the rest of the club, about the wonderful people that share this hobby. This Hallmark moment salutes the one and only "Jimmy!"
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Post# 29236-4/21/2003-20:20 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: Bob, Nice and clean 1-18, but, how do you replace that belt???
MESSAGE: Bob,
How in the world do you replace the drive belt on that 1-18?
I was looking at your pictures of your nice clean machine, and was thinking, how the heck do you replace that belt.
Do you have to take everything apart?
I could not figure it out.
Please learn me!
Brent
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Post# 29237-4/21/2003-21:11 ||| mrcoffee (Flint, Michigan)
SUBJECT: My Filter-Flo moment
MESSAGE: Just nabbed myself a mini-basket for my GE Filter-Flo. First time I had so much fun doing laundry! Loaded it up with a couple towels, added Cheer, and man, I didn't get a suds cake. I got a MERINGUE instead! If it were edible, I would have probably baked it in a pie. Heh heh heh.
Gotta hunt for that 1-18 next....
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Post# 29238-4/21/2003-21:16 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: An WARNING Message to Applianceville (Africa Scam:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Club Friends, I almost got caught in a similar Scam recently. I have or had a GE Profile Dishwasher For Sale on the Ads listings and I had 2-people from Africa write to me interested in buying it. I contacted my Bank Manager to ask him about getting a Cashier's Check and why and he talked me out of doing it. After the first time, I just wrote back to the 2nd person and told them that I was only selling it in my area, as my Ad satated, that I wasn't going to ship it anyplace for anyone. Please be real careful and don't deal at anyone of these people over in Africa, they will really screw up our Bank Accounts and take our money Illegally if they get our info. I hope that they can get caught real soon and not be able to do this any more. Unfortunately I got into a similar situation in another Counrty some several years ago and was out $950.00, but I was able to take it out as a Loss on my Income Taxes, because that time there was a Signed Contract agreement involved, with both of us Signing it. Looking for Love in all the wrong places...
My best to everyone in our Club Site...
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Post# 29239-4/21/2003-21:30 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Come to Papa (Skini-Mini and Bob:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Todd, congrats, on your Skini-Mini. Is this an original, with the one-piece "Agi-Tub" with the Solid Tub and interesting looking Agitator?
By the way, if Bob {appnutt} should happen to reject your offer to Ship your "Other-Half" to him, I'm next in line, up for grabs...If anyone else is available and interested, let me know too...Thanks, Steve "SactoTeddy Bear"
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Post# 29240-4/21/2003-22:03 ||| earthling177 (Boston, MA)
SUBJECT: RE: Come to Papa (switching hubbies)
MESSAGE: Well, Todd's "warning" reminded me of this joke letter that was published long ago in rec.humor.funny. I hope I'm not offending anyone here by reposting it. Please remember, it's just a joke -- nothing serious here.
Cheers,
-- Paulo
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From: lgens@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Liz Gensheimer)
Newsgroups: rec.humor.funny
Subject: Chain Letter for Liberated Women
Keywords: heard it, chuckle, sexual stereotypes
Message-ID: <47642@looking.on.ca>
Date: 15 Nov 89 00:30:11 GMT
Sender: funny@looking.on.ca
Lines: 31
Approved: funny@looking.on.ca
Reply-Path: uxc.cso.uiuc.edu!convex!lgens
Dear <...>
This letter was started by a woman like yourself in the hopes of bringing relief to other tired and discontented women. Unlike most chain letters this one does not cost you anything. Just send a copy of this letter to five of your friends who are equally tired and discontented. Then, bundle up your husband or boyfriend and send him to the woman whose name appears at the top of the list and add your name to the bottom of the list.
When your name comes to the top of the list, you will receive 16,877 men and one of them is bound to be a hell of a lot better than the one you already have . . . .
DO NOT BREAK THE CHAIN . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . HAVE FAITH
One woman broke the chain and got her own S.O.B. back. At this writing a friend of mine had already received 184 men. They buried her yesterday, but it took three undertakers 35 hours to get the smile off her face, and 2 days to get her legs together so they could close the coffin.
YOU MUST HAVE FAITH
signed: A LIBERATED WOMAN
--
Edited by Brad Templeton. MAIL, yes MAIL your jokes to funny@looking.ON.CA
Attribute the joke's source if at all possible. I will reply, mailers willing.
If you MUST reply to a rejection, include a description of your joke
because there is 0 chance I will remember which one it was.
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Post# 29241-4/22/2003-00:11 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Come to Papa
MESSAGE: Gary come to papa. I only have one washer and space for only one.
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Post# 29242-4/22/2003-00:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Come to Papa (A Filter Flo moment--Don and Jimmy)
MESSAGE: Don I don't know you very well, but I do care about you a lot. You seem like a very nice guy. And Jimmy??? Well, I'd still like to have a WCI58, a WI57 or a WCI65, all in working orderr, or even some other Rapid Dry in working order (hint hint). Nothing can surpass an overflow rinse and 1000 rpm plus spin!!!
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Post# 29243-4/22/2003-00:19 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Come to Papa
MESSAGE: And Gary, by the way, I do speak some spanish.
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Post# 29244-4/22/2003-06:38 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea? (Seventh Generation?)
MESSAGE: Hi Dan, I have never heard of a dishwashing product called Seventh Generation. Who makes it? Sounds like a very good product. Terry
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Post# 29245-4/22/2003-07:16 ||| Tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Come to Papa
MESSAGE: That's what I like about this club; nothing is ever wasted, it's just recycled. hehe
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Post# 29246-4/22/2003-09:14 ||| BsmntFullOSuds (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: An WARNING Message to Applianceville
MESSAGE: The African scammers usually pull this with sellers of classic cars on eBay. Never thought they would branch out into washers!
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Post# 29247-4/22/2003-11:13 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea? (Seventh Generation?)
MESSAGE: It showed up at our local Kroegers here in Seattle a few months back. It's very organic and granola (which we love here ;-) and it works great. I used to use Electrosol in my Kitchenaid Superba, but it left weird black residue in my melmac coffee cups. That doesn't happen with Seventh Generation, and I think the Melmac in general looks brighter and shinier. Also, I have some vintage highball glasses that have a print of fish on them, and they could NEVER go in the dishwasher with Electrasol. I've been trying one of the cracked ones in the dishwasher with Seventh Generation, and so far at least there has been no fading of flaking of the pattern.
LINK: http://www.seventhgeneration.com/
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Post# 29248-4/22/2003-11:42 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea? (Seventh Generation)
MESSAGE: I am using this currently. It was suggested to me because it does not "etch" glassware over time. It cleans great, however, I have a newer Maytag dishwasher with the plastic tub, and I am seeing it discolor. I suppose it is from the lack of whatever chemical the other harsher soaps have. I am not sure if I am going to continue using this soap, or switch back. Love the idea of seventh generation,(although expensive) but do not want discoloring. Gee, maybe I should put in a vintage dishwasher, one without a plastic tub. Any older Kitchenaids out there?????
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Post# 29249-4/22/2003-12:22 ||| mrcoffee (Twin Cities)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea? (I have a '77 Whirlpool portable)
MESSAGE: I have a 1977 Whirlpool portable dishwasher that I could sell you if you are interested. It's got a porscelin tub, but the door is plastic. But it has cleaned up very well. I put in a new lid switch, and the machine is in excellent running condition.
MrCoffee
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Post# 29250-4/22/2003-12:57 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea? (I have a '77 Whirlpool portable)
MESSAGE: Thanks, I would need a built in, and will keep my eyes out for one of the Kitchenaids with all the square buttons and lights. Love those! Thanks.
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Post# 29251-4/22/2003-15:31 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea? (Frigidaire "
1-18"
)
MESSAGE: Hey! mrcoffee, did you get my E-Mails about a Frigidaire
"1-18" I sent to you? I was wondering if your interested? Please let me know "via" E-Mail, if you are, OK?
Best Regards, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"...
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Post# 29252-4/22/2003-15:57 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: spammer Wrench
MESSAGE: OK does anybody have a spare spammer wrench to sell or can give me a hint of hot to get this nut off?.
Thanks
Philippe
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Post# 29253-4/22/2003-17:44 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: spammer Wrench
MESSAGE: You can probably get one from a local appliance repair shop. Or you can try without first. Take a flat blade screwdriver. Stick in one of the outside slots and hit the screwdriver handle hard with a hammer. If the nut won't budge, take a large adjustable wrench, open it all the way. (A large regular wrench would work also.) Place the part that is part of the handle. (not the adjustable side.) Place the solid side into the slot on the nut. Strike the side opposite of the one touching the slot with the hammer. Do this with short, hard blows. This is what I did:-)
(The screwdriver kept slipping out of the slot.)
I hope I explained the wrench idea well. Of course, to bypass all this garbage is to buy a spanner wrench for a few bucks from a local place.
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Post# 29254-4/22/2003-18:27 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: spammer Wrench
MESSAGE: Or a block of wood and a mallet.
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Post# 29255-4/22/2003-18:32 ||| mrcoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea? (Frigidaire )
MESSAGE: I haven't, Sacto. But yes, I am still interested in a 1-18 if I can get one. I would hope for affordable shipping, too. I'll look up your email, and send you a message. Thanks!
MrCoffee
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Post# 29256-4/22/2003-19:42 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: spammer Wrench (spanners and spammers)
MESSAGE: Hi Philippe
hee hee hee
at first I thought you were referring to unwanted email. (perhaps a spammer wrench is a device for disciplining people who send unsolicited emails?)
I guess you mean a "spanner"?
(Here in Aus we don't use the term "wrench", we call them all spanners. Eg, ring spanner, open ended spanner, adjustable spanner, etc. Except for what you guys call a "monkey wrench", which we call a "plumbers wrench", or a "stillson".)
:)
Best Wishes
Chris.
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Post# 29257-4/22/2003-20:00 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: spammer Wrench (spanners and spammers)
MESSAGE: Neat. I guess in your terms I was talking about an open ended, adjustable spanner:-) I have wondered about the word spanner. I have only heard it to talk of the round notched nut on maytag, whirlpool and GE washers. But then again, I haven't been around for too many years:-)
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Post# 29258-4/22/2003-20:17 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: I GOT A 1/18!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Congrats)
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie,
Better late than never but wanted to congratulate you on your find! I'm so jealous!
Enjoy and please keep us posted with pix!
Take care,
Todd
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Post# 29259-4/22/2003-20:45 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: spammer Wrench (spanners and spammers)
MESSAGE: Hi Kurt.
Yes, you're right.
We also more commonly call them shifting spanners, or just "shifters". (as in, hand me the shifter, Mavis.)
So you're a Canadian called KD!
Can you sing too?
Best Wishes
Chris
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Post# 29260-4/22/2003-20:53 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: spammer Wrench
MESSAGE: Hi - What machine are you working on? Each brand has their own method of attaching the tub to the spin tube and requires a different wrench or spanner to remove/replace it. It's much easier if you have the correct tool.
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Post# 29261-4/22/2003-22:14 ||| mrcoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: Maybe I shouldn't post this, but here goes: Easy automatic
MESSAGE: Does anybody here know the value of one of these machines? And if somebody could work out a trade for a Frigidaire? It's a '50s vintage fully automatic. Currently un-restored, repairable condition. It would need to be totally gutted and cleaned, however. And the seals replaced in the transmission, I believe. Let me know.
MrCoffee
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Post# 29262-4/22/2003-22:42 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: spammer Wrench (spanners and spammers)
MESSAGE: Thats right:-)
When I think of my initials KD, I think of kraft dinner lol. My full initials are KAD (Kurt Alex Dixon.) That is better than "CAD" (Curt Alex Dixon.)
Shifters? That makes me think of a car. (As in "the shifter broke off in my hand in this crappy 80s car" :-)
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Post# 29263-4/22/2003-22:50 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea? (Seventh Generation?)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the information Dan. I am going to look for it the next time I shop.
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Post# 29264-4/23/2003-00:13 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: spammer Wrench (SPANNER info for WP/KM and Frigidaire)
MESSAGE: For a BD WP or KM, you can get a spanner wrench at any good appliance parts store.
For Frigidaire, you need a 1 3/4" strike wrench. I got mine on eBay, and then I found the actual Frigidaire wrench on there a week later! This strike wrench also acts as a very good self defense weapon...
Liberal application of heat with a propane torch also helps emmensely...
-ph
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Post# 29265-4/23/2003-00:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea? (Seventh Generation)
MESSAGE: Good health/organic food stores may also carry 7th Gen products. Check their website also (link below). I have had good luck in my DW with their powder.
Their laundry soap was only fair, but the scent is really bad, IMO. Low sudsing tho'...
-ph
LINK: http://www.gaiam.com/retail/category.asp?catalog%5Fname=gai&category%5Fname=l3%5FSeventhGenerationProducts
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Post# 29266-4/23/2003-00:21 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Maybe I shouldn't post this, but here goes: Easy automatic
MESSAGE: Oooooo... A dream machine... Soooooo tempting... Must...resist...
Got pics?
-ph
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Post# 29267-4/23/2003-00:49 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: 1-18 Drainage Control
MESSAGE: I have an 1-18 at my summer cottage(left there by the original owner) it is a poppy red and works great.(Huge Capacity) I have a small basement under the cottage and the drain field and dry well cannot handle all of the capacity of the 1-18 at once discharged directly into the stand pipe.(the stand pipe is not very large, 1-1/2 inches at tops. I was considerng putting in a laundry tub, so it would be a slower drain into the system and if it's slow to drain, so what, it is in the laundry tub, not on the basement floor. What do you guys think of this idea? I surely hate to give up the 1-18-it does mega loads compared to my Maytag in the city.
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Post# 29268-4/23/2003-01:21 ||| mrcoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Maybe I shouldn't post this, but here goes: Easy automatic (Well, not yet.)
MESSAGE: Of course, it all depends on whether or not the person really wants to sell it. And from what he told me, he was some what reluctant. So, I'll play it by ear and see what he decides to do. It will definitely not go cheap, either.
MrCoffee
Oh, and if I do get it, I'll plan on sending pictures. Would anybody offer me something for it?
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Post# 29269-4/23/2003-01:40 ||| mrcoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Drainage Control (That would work)
MESSAGE: I had a friend who owned a 1-18, and they had the unit drain into a laundry tub. I do the same with my GE. I say, go for it. A new machine just isn't worth buying these days (unless you want to spend a couple grand on a Unimac or small Milnor).
MrCoffee
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Post# 29270-4/23/2003-02:48 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Drainage Control (Washer Stand-Pipe/Sink Drain:)
MESSAGE: Hi! pturo, I had a Stand-Pipe installed and tried to have my Top-Load Washer's Drain in it, but they would back the Water up to the top and out, so I have to put their Drain Hoses in my Laundry Sink. Now at this time have a 1997 Neptune Washer and Gas Dryer and I have that Washer Draining out the
Stand-Pipe and with the Electric Pump and less Water to Drain out, it takes the Water Flow all right. I'm wondering if all Front-Load Washer's would be the same and the Top-Load Washer's as well, so I have to put the Drain Hoses in the Stand-Pipe of Front-Loader's and in the Laundry Sink for the Top-Loader's, "Go-Figure."
Good Luck with your Stand-Pipe problem, but I would try the Laundry Sink method first also, especially don't get rid of that beautiful Poppy Color "1-18" Frigidaire Washer.
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Post# 29271-4/23/2003-06:24 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea? (Seventh Generation)
MESSAGE: Thanks Peter for the link I will check it out.
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Post# 29272-4/23/2003-07:02 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: This would be........?
MESSAGE: I would like to see this as a POD.
I 've never knew that Norge would had such an dispenser within their machine!
Check it out!!!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2318916182&category=20714
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Post# 29273-4/23/2003-11:59 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: CHECK OUT THIS WEB SITE!
MESSAGE: I was looking for video clips for work, and decided to search on this site for film clips on washers and dryers, etc. The clips that you are going to see are amazing. Great quality.
Here is the site: IMAGEBANK.COM
After you get on the site, then hold your pointer over "Film", at the top, then you will see a drop down with more selections, then click on "Film Home". Then do a search for vintage washers, or just washers, dryers, laundry, etc. I have had no luck from searchin on the name brands.
The videos that you are going to see are in very good shape. I was shocked at the vintage machines that they had footage on. I won't spoil if for you, and let you be as excited about it as I was when I came upon the clips of these wonderful machines.
They are only to view online, unless you can afford to buy them. They are quite expensive.
I was able to view them with a Quick Time Player, and it looks as though you can choose other players. Hopefully most of you have broadband or DSL.
Hope you have fun!
Now I have to do what I went there to do, for work! :)
Brent
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Post# 29274-4/23/2003-12:25 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Vintage Washer Clips
MESSAGE: Thanks for the great tip on Imagebank, Brent. The clips are cool. Check them out, guys! Oh, great Uni, tell us truly: Is a new Manual Of The Month forthcoming? Your throng awaits with baited breath. :)
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Post# 29275-4/23/2003-17:10 ||| fixit (NE Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bob, Nice and clean 1-18, but, how do you replace that belt??? (Frig 1-18 Belt Replacement)
MESSAGE: Hi Brent,
Replacing this belt isn't as hard as it looks. Much easier than a WPL/KM BD, and you don't get greasy! Loosen the 3/8 motor bolts to slide motor left a bit & get slack, run a wet-vac connected to the drain hose for a few seconds, remove 1/4" hex screws and move bottom pump cover aside with hoses still attached.
Remove the 2 larger hoses from the main pump, and the belt'll slip right off! Snug the new one by prying the motor mount right with either a Channelocks or screwdriver. Piece of cake!
God bless,
Dave Harnish
Dave's Repair Service
New Albany, PA
drs@sosbbs.com
570-363-2404
Our Free Monthly Appliance Tips Newsletter:
mailto:drs@sosbbs.com?subject=SubscribeDRSN
Acts 4:12
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Post# 29276-4/23/2003-18:01 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Neat Pics - MSN Group
MESSAGE: This is a group I found on MSN that has lots of pics in their photo files - lots of wringer washers, but a few neat auto machines as well, including some of our member's collections.
LINK: http://groups.msn.com/WringerWasherLaundryWashday/home.htm
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Post# 29277-4/23/2003-18:02 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: CHECK OUT THIS WEB SITE!
MESSAGE: Thanks for the great site info - now I see why the club was so quiet all day!
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Post# 29278-4/23/2003-19:02 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: Sweet GE filter flo
MESSAGE: My aunt just moved into a new condo complete with washer and dryer. Fully expecting a pair of 5 year old or newer washer and dryer, I find a pair of really old GEs. They were in great condition. I couldn't take the washer for a test drive though, the cold water tap leaks. (Nothing to do with the washer, rather it is the faucet that the hose connects to.) Even the filter is still there. She asked me to take a look, of course I found out what was leaking right away. But I pretended that it was something else and tipped the washer back and looked at the mechanical workings. It looked like an awesome washer. If any of you have read the howstuffworks article on washers, the control panel on my aunts is almost the same as the article's. (Except my aunts is a basic one with no other controls. No water level, tempurature or speed selection.) I would love to have that washer:-) Oh well though, she will be in that condo for a long time, I can always look and watch.
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Post# 29279-4/23/2003-19:35 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Bob, Nice and clean 1-18, but, how do you replace that belt??? (Frig 1-18 Belt Replacement)
MESSAGE: I was gonna say that....; - )
actually, I was gonna refer you to someone who may have done it more frequently, as I only ever recall changing one belt for ALCO long ago, and I remember it having something to do with getting around the water pump, but couldn't remember exactly...truthfully...THANKS, Fixit, for helping me out there....good answer...
PEACE.
B
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Post# 29280-4/23/2003-20:01 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Bob, Nice and clean 1-18, but, how do you replace that belt??? (Frig 1-18 Belt Replacement Thanks Guys!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Bob and David for the info.
Not that I have a 1-18 as of yet. I had actually never seen under one until you posted those wonderful pictures Bob. The belt replacement looked so darn hard! You guys make it sound so easy!
Have a great evening.
Brent
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Post# 29281-4/23/2003-23:44 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (How bout Dishwashers?)
MESSAGE: Sarah:
Do you know if this method would work to clear up discoloration on my dishwasher's plastic tub?
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Post# 29282-4/23/2003-23:59 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Sweet GE filter flo
MESSAGE: The lack of deluxe controls sounds like this might be a commercial machine designed for places where a coin box machine will not be used - like the condo.
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Post# 29283-4/24/2003-00:31 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (How bout Dishwashers?)
MESSAGE: Try running an emtpy, regular load with about a cup or so of vinegar. Add the vinegar as the dishwasher is about half filled. (If you add it before the cycle starts, the pre-drain will drain away the vinegar.)
Bleach may work too. I am not sure.
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Post# 29284-4/24/2003-00:37 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Drainage Control (Washer Stand-Pipe/Sink Drain:)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the advice, I can bear the cost of a Home Depot laundy tub and hook it up to the drain where the old standpipe was. Besides, with a laundry tub, I have a place to wash big pots, or clean fish in the basement. It is worth it to save this beautiful machine's utility for me, and thanks to this room, where the gracious members have taught me the value and beauty of the 1-18, something the owners just happened to have left behind.
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Post# 29285-4/24/2003-00:39 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Sweet GE filter flo (Maybe)
MESSAGE: Well these machines were in my aunts own condo, for her use only. They weren't central use machines. (where there is a laundry room for a few condos and they all share.) I think it was just a bare bones one. I am not sure though. The speed and temp controls were programmed into the timer. I think her washer was just the bottom of the line model. (still the same great older GE design though.) I guess it could have been commercial. But the "look" of it didn't seem like commercial. I guess we should ask what makes one commercial? Like you said, commercials usually don't have many options. But they usually say "commercial" on them too. These ones didn't. My school has a commercial maytag without a coin box. It is very obviously commercial. (with the steel console, the red LEDs to indicate cycle, the one cycle timer.)
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Post# 29286-4/24/2003-07:50 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: Washing machine interveiw, anyone?
MESSAGE: Hi everybody! Listen, I can't get my 1/18 yet because my parents don't have time, but I need more information on washing machines, for my school project. I am trying to find out how all of the belts, gears, and motors work and how they are put together. Can anyone help me? I need to know about GE mini basket washers. That is the machine I am studying for this project. And no I can't do any GMers for this at all. I need to know all f the parts, their names, and how they work. I need to know where and how all of the parts are placed in the machine. Please help me!
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Post# 29287-4/24/2003-09:40 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing machine interveiw, anyone?
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie.
That is a BIG request. There is a lot to understand.
I can't really help you with a great deal of detail, but I have a couple of suggestions. I get the impression you are a bit overwhelmed by the idea of this project and don't really know where to start, so that is where my suggestions come in.
1. Format. (just my suggestion)
First, give a brief over-view of the layout of the machine. Just a diagram or two of the layout of the machine, with labels to indicate what parts go where, and some text to explain BASICALLY what each component does. (EG: Fill Valve - An electrically switched tap to turn on the flow of water into the machine when it is energized and stop the flow when it is de-energized.) Components you might show could be: cabinet, outer tub, inner tub(basket), transmission, motor, belt, pump, suspension (including cables, one of the GE washer's most interesting features), fill valves, hoses, pressure switch, timer, option buttons, filter-flo pan, recirculation system, mini-basket, lid switch.
Then explain each step in a normal cycle, and what components are doing what at each stage. Stages would be fill - wash - spin - spray rinse - fill - rinse - spin - off.
For example for the fill - you could say how the timer supplies power to the fill valve, via the pressure switch. The fill valve is energized and water flows into the basket. During fill there is no power supply to the timer advancing motor, so that if water flow is fast or slow, the machine will still fill to the same level, it will just take shorter or longer. (as the timer is not advancing, the fill period wil be as long as it takes to fill up.) Air trapped in the hose to the pressure switch is forced up by the rising water. When the trapped air pressure is stronger than the internal pressure of the pressure switch, the pressure switch clicks over inside and cuts power to the fill valve. Simultaneously the pressure switch sends power to the main motor which starts the WASH phase of the cycle, and to the timer advancing motor, which means the timed wash phase begins.
Then do a paragraph on what exactly happens during the WASH part of the cycle, and so on.
If you want you could do a brief paragraph at the end on what changes to the basic cycle happen for each of the options. (for example, when a delicate option is chosen, the machine agitates slower to prevent damage to delicate fabrics.)
Then you want a CONCLUSION to tie up any loose ends and give a VERY short overview of the details above. You might even include a little personal detail about how you got interested in washing machines. The personal touch makes projects much more "alive" and interesting to read than just a bunch of facts.
2. So that is the FORMAT of your project.
But you need to know yourself how the machine works, so you can fill in the details of the plan I have given you. Best ways to do that are... Go to the library. You may find service books, either for professionals or Do-It-Yourselfers. Search the net for more details. I think someone recently gave you details of a website that explained how the GE machines work.
If you know any repairers in your area who know about these old GE's, ask them if you can see their books, but don't get crabby if they say no. These manuals are very valuable to them. What about the place where you bought the portable Kenmore? If you ask very nicely they might even show you the insides and explain them for you. Again, they will most likely say no and that is ok for them do do that, but you never know your luck till you try. Even try contacting GE, they may be willing to send you some info. Tell them you are doing a school project, many companies will send out stuff for school projects at no cost, though generally they would want it to be related to their current models and not historic stuff.
Out of interest, WHY does it have to be GE? You already own the portable Kenmore, so it would be a lot easier to do a project on that machine. You could include photos of its insides and everything. With it right there in front of you, it wil be a lot easier to understand, too. The Kenmore machines are very interesting too. Only the Kenmores and Whirlpools have the Wig Wag!
Good luck with it Jamie.
When you have finished the project, why don't you post it or post a link to it so we all can see it?
Chris.
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Post# 29288-4/24/2003-09:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing machine interveiw, anyone? (Get this book)
MESSAGE: You need it...
-ph
LINK: http://cgi.aol.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3516258735&category=1135
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Post# 29289-4/24/2003-13:33 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing machine interveiw, anyone? (Free repair manual)
MESSAGE: Try this. It is the cheap and easy book, online, free.
http://www.appliancerepair.net/freebooks/washer/frameset000.htm?toc.htm
It is good and go to the older GE design and read that through a couple of times.
Here is another great one.
www.howstuffworks.com/big.htm
It has pictures and explainations of the older GE design as well.
There are hundreds of articles there, go to the one "How washing machines work."
Read that one through a couple of times too. Those two web sites should help quite a bit. Read them both, go do something else, then read them again. This is like watching a movie for the second time. You pick up on lots of stuff that you missed or didn't understand. Post back and tell us all how it's going:-)
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Post# 29290-4/24/2003-17:26 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Hotpoint Dryer
MESSAGE: Has anybody own one of these Hotpoint dryers?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2319167834&category=20714
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Post# 29291-4/24/2003-18:50 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Dryer
MESSAGE: I didn't personally own one, but a very good friend of mine did and I used it many times. She just got rid of it about a year ago, having owned it since it was new. Worked like a charm despite being moved across country a number of times. It was still running fine but she got tired of using a pair of pliers to set the timer as the knob had been smashed in a move years ago. Also wanted it to match her new washer.
My parents have a similar GE that is still running as their primary dryer after 30 years of use!
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Post# 29292-4/24/2003-18:51 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: American Kitchens Roto Tray (D&M)
MESSAGE: my question what is d&m a mfr. that provided the kenmore dw for sears? I havent posted in a while. Also late Happy Birthday to Unimatic.... what a great site you have created. and last. congrats to Mr. Coxx on that new frigidaire... Hope everyone have a nice Easter Holiday... Thanks. ALR
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Post# 29293-4/24/2003-18:54 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Dryer ((GE))
MESSAGE: Looks like a Badge-engineered General Electric.
Ken D.
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Post# 29294-4/24/2003-19:23 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: hang in there
MESSAGE: Hey, ALR, glad you're back. It's actually two machines that I have coming to me. My workshop is being built as we speak, so our next wash-in in New Orleans isn't that far off. But, where is Jason hiding lately? Todd
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Post# 29295-4/24/2003-20:10 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Dryer (My Grandmother Had This Set!)
MESSAGE: Hey,
That brought back lot's of the past for me!
My grandmother had this Hotpoint set. The dryer was gas, and it was a very good dryer.
The first washer gave her lot's of tranmission problems. They then replaced it free of charge. The second washer was fine. The second washer and first gas dryer lasted about 30 years. They actually sold them when my dear grandparents went to a home. I was living out of town by then.
Thanks for the memories!
Brent
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Post# 29296-4/24/2003-22:08 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: hang in there
MESSAGE: Todd, Last post i noticed from Jason indicated he enjoys Six Flags so I guess the guy has been busy. Best of luck with the workshop.
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Post# 29297-4/24/2003-22:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Dryer
MESSAGE: Oh yeah. A friend of mine got this dryer when they moved into an all-electric house and had to put their 1964 Maytag electronic dry control gas dryer in the garage to just sit. I used to see these in the stores too, beautiful machines. Penny's Penncrest were very similar too.
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Post# 29298-4/25/2003-01:32 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Dryer (GE made)
MESSAGE: Yup, thats a GE made Hotpoint alright. That dryer looks a lot like my aunts GE I talked about. The door is huge and goes across the whole front of the dryer, with the same type of handle. My aunt's also had that lip on the top. I bet the only diff. is the controls and the "hotpoint" instead of the "GE" label.
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Post# 29299-4/25/2003-01:55 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: Whirlpool change in design?
MESSAGE: A question crossed my mind tonight. Why did Whirlpool come out with a brand new design when their current one was so successful? I am talking about the belt to direct drive of course. Granted the direct drive system was at least as succesfull as the belt drive system. But if I was in Whirlpool's shoes, I wouldn't mess with a good thing. But I think they came out with the new design to lower building costs. The new design had a much smaller tranny, a very simple pump, a plastic outer tub, and a thinner cabinet. (the main components in the direct drive design were not attached to the cabinet. On the other hand, the belt drives had everything hanging off the cabinet, thus the cabinet had to be pretty thick and sturdy.) And one more reason may have been to make it easier to repair. This was just a topic I thought we could toss around for awhile. I still don't know which design I like better. Of course, the belt drives were more fun to watch (I liked the "mist" fill.) and take apart. But the direct drives have a couple strengths too. (very easy to repair and play with. Still fun to watch. I like the "tongue" of water fill.) I also wonder why Whirlpool made washers are the only ones that are direct drive? It has been 20 years since their first direct drives were built, I would think Maytag or Frigidaire or GE would have come out with a similar design by now. Oh well, if it is a WP or KM, it is good, belt or not.
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Post# 29300-4/25/2003-02:40 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Friends, I wanted to share this important info that I've found out about on Thursday, April 24th, about the use of Detergent's in newer Dishwasher's. I felt it being important to everyone, because I don't know if everyone reads the
"Sand-Box" Postings. I have a 6-month old Maytag Taller-Tub
2-Rack Dishwasher that had a Retro-Fit Repair done to it on Thursday. While the Tech was here, I asked him about what Brand and type of Detergent that they recommended. He told me because of these newer Dishwasher's having a separate Electric Motor for the Pump that they recomment Liquid Detergent's only. They aren't going to clog up the Pump up, like the Powder or Tab's do, from not totally dissolving, causing the Pump to "Labor" while Draining. I have Posted this on the "Sand-Box" Site as well and I wanted to add this info to this site, mostly in case anyone might happen to have a newer Dishwasher or knows someone with one, that has a separate Electric Motor for the Pump and to pass on this info about the Detergent's to use in them. So, before someone get's their "Nose Out of Joint" from my Posting this here, I think that this was important enough to share with eveyone, to prevent problems in their own newer Dishwasher's or for
someone else they know with a newer Dishwasher, with a separate Elecrtric Motor for the Pump. By the way, if anyone is interested in my Posting about my Retro-Fit, let me know and I will be happy to share it with you, if you don't check out the "Sand-Box" listings. I had someone already reply to my Post and wanted to know further about my liking my Dishwasher and my finding out that it was rated as a "Best-Buy" with Consumer's Reports, even out ranking the new 3-Rack Taller-Tub Model's too.
My best to everyone always, Steve
"SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 29301-4/25/2003-03:04 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: MM, seperate motor? There is only one pump though. So you are saying there is one motor for the "wash" pump and another for the "drain" pump? I can't see why using powder would make any difference from liquid, other than better cleaning. (Powder cleans much better.) With a high enough water temp (about 120-140 degrees) the detergent disolves all the way. Plus what about all the food particles in there? The drain pump would have to "labor" to remove them if it has to "labor" to remove some undisolved detergent. We will always use powder for two reasons. First, the liquid doesn't stay in the dispensor throughout the prewash. (Our dishwasher doesn't have any seal to seal the main wash detergent, just a cover. The liquid just leaks out.) And powder cleans better. Plus our pump sure doesn't have to labor any time. (It takes like 4 seconds for our Maytag to drain all the water, some undisolved detergent wouldn't harm the pump at all. It would just grind right through that detergent.) I don't know of any dishwasher that has two motors. Although I haven't seen the newest maytag jetcleans. (I just know the belt and verticle direct motor types.) I was kind of curious though, what was the retrofit repair?
You can email me at kurt_dixon150@hotmail.com if you want.
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Post# 29302-4/25/2003-03:11 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: "POD" Old GE Washer:
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Friend's, one of our Neighbor's had this Model
GE Washer, for their first Automatic Washer. They bought it at a Local Department Store and her's had a Blue Cabinet and a Pink Top. She didn't care, because it was in the Garage and she got it on a special Sale, because of the Colorful Cabinet. The Department Store told her that they had to take the Blue Top off of that Washer to replace a devective one for another Customer, and they temporarily put a Pink Top on that one that she ended up buying. She had that Washer, without any repairs for at least until I'm guessing her next GE Washer, which was about a Mid-1960s Low-"MOL" Model. She had her first Dryer being a GE and it was with a "BOL" with the Timed Settings and when they could convert the Dryer's for 110-V usage, which she needed, because our houses here were built in the early 1950s and without 220-V Electricity for either Stoves or Dryer's, they had only Gas available. My Parent's had to install 220-V for both their Dryer and Stove in 2-houses in this Neighborhood that they owned. The first house was 2-blocks East of this house and it was built in the early 1940s and the other house is the one I'm living in now that I Inherited in 1995, after both of my Parent's Death's. My Neighbor's next {3rd} Washer I talked her into buying was a Maytag A-112 and her {1st}Dryer was the GE Dryer that went out a few years after the old GE Washer, when she then bought the Maytag Washer so she replaced it with a Maytag DE-712 Electric Dryer, that I bought for her, the good Neighbor and Extended Family Nephew that I was to her. The Maytag's were the Almond Color and she really liked them, but she really liked the GE's too.
My best to everyone always, Steve
"SactoTeddyBear"...
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Post# 29303-4/25/2003-07:18 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Westy Workshop News
MESSAGE: This is an open invitation to all who would like to attend the restoration of George’s Westinghouse set. The workshop will be May 3 (Saturday) beginning at 11:30 am. The location is Marietta (north of Atlanta), GA.
This next part is VERY IMPORTANT! If you are planning to attend, George and I are asking that you RSVP no later than next Wednesday April 30th. When I receive the RSVP, I’ll reply to you with the address, driving instructions and a phone number to call (in case you get lost).
Let’s make this a good turnout.
Steve
Send RSVP to: applianceville@comcast.net
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Post# 29304-4/25/2003-08:15 ||| gewasherguy (Cabot, Arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Disherwasher Detergent)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the post about the detergents. I have the same two-rack tall-tub Maytage dishwasher. I use Cascade Liquid and will continue to do so now. I would not worry about anyone getting their "nose out of joint"..can't please everyone all the time and in general it is one particular person on here that makes a comment. Again thanks for the info.
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Post# 29305-4/25/2003-09:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: Probably because they are using a cheaper impeller in the pump, and since most people don't have their hot water at 140-160 degrees, the powder doesn't dissolve and chews up the pump. Silly manufacturers...
-ph
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Post# 29306-4/25/2003-09:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool change in design?
MESSAGE: Cost cutting, plain and simple. In a recent brochure I have for commercial WP washers, they say that the DD design eliminates laundromat owners' 3rd most common complaint: changing/replacing a belt.
-ph
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Post# 29307-4/25/2003-11:02 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Dryer
MESSAGE: cleanteam,
I had the "Pennys", Penncreast version of this dryer. It was ok.
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Post# 29308-4/25/2003-11:07 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: Kurt, my Frid DW has two motors. Seperate electric drain pump motor.
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Post# 29309-4/25/2003-11:22 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool change in design? (out of curiosity)
MESSAGE: What were the two higher up complaints about the belted machines for mat owners? Out here in california I've only run across 2 laundry facilities with commercial belt driven machines, and they were both small trailer parks =)
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Post# 29310-4/25/2003-11:24 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool change in design?
MESSAGE: The design change increased capacity, lowered water use, simplified installation, eased service thereby lowering repair time, eliminated components (downrods, suspension balls, recirculating filters, wig wags, belts, pulleys, large baseplates, steel outer tub)lowering total weight.
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Post# 29311-4/25/2003-11:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Whirlpool change in design? (dunno)
MESSAGE: No idea. It wasn't mentioned in the brochure. My guess is pumps and bearings.
I'm currently looking at a new 'mat that has (only) 2 DD WP washers. I may start having DD experience here soon...
-ph
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Post# 29312-4/25/2003-13:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: I have never heard such nonsense. Overhere in Europe dishwashers always had separate pumps, one for circulation and one for draining. I don't know about other European countries, but in Holland the liquids have long disappeared from the market, they just didn't clean as well as the powders. I've never heard of pump problems due to undissolved detergent. What about harder kind of food particles? Perhaps Maytag wants you to prerinse everything too...
Louis
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Post# 29313-4/25/2003-15:11 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (I believe this is nonsense also )
MESSAGE: Yes double pumps are a new concept for America
Kind of like Spammer nuts LOL
most people in the US do not keep thier waterheaters hot enough to run a dishwasher properly Since we heat gallons and gallons of water instead of on demand like europe.
I have had KitchenAid Superba's for years since they heated the water to proper tempurature before washing. It is hard to find a machine made in america now that does the same thing.
Yes I might have paid too much for my Asko (10.00) but It has out performed the kitchenAid. I prerinse nothing. and I was able to reduce my water heater tempurature way way way down
Philippe
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Post# 29314-4/25/2003-15:32 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: Ah, good to know. I didn't know that any dishwasher had two motors. I guess I understand it better now. The undisolved detergent may chew up the seals as well. Just like putting sand in the dishwasher would chew up the seal! Ouch.
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Post# 29315-4/25/2003-16:22 ||| COLDSPOT66 (South of Boston, Mass)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: Hi Kurt,
It is great to see someone so young that has an avid interest in appliances. My hat is off to you. As I repair appliances for a living, I have ALWAYS prefered Whirlpool washers & dryers. For the money, there is not a better machine out there. For the most part, it excels in most catagories, such as ease of service, availability of parts, dependability and performance. Ditto for the 29" dryer. Because of the airflow design, clothing hits the heated airstream twice while tumbling. Once when lifting the clothes and once when they drop to the other side of the drum.
Not to say that they couldn't stand some improvement. I would like to see a longer slower agitation stroke. There is plenty of room down where the tranny is to make it a little bigger. Also it would be nice to see a little sturdier cabinet that doesn't flex so much.
Also as far as dishwashers with seperate pump motors, the FIRST
kitchenaid d/ws for the home had a separate pump motor after they switched from a gravity drain. So that is really nothing new.
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Post# 29316-4/25/2003-16:23 ||| COLDSPOT66 (South of Boston, Mass)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (I believe this is nonsense also )
MESSAGE: Hey Phillipe,
How's that water bellows coming on the frigidaire washer?
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Post# 29317-4/25/2003-16:50 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature)
MESSAGE: And another issue comes up! I have often noticed that it's very normal in the US to turn the temperature of the water heater way down. Overhere in Europe we are warned a lot about doing that. It appears that when you put your (tank) water heater below 130F the bacteria that causes legionnaire's disease can start to develop in the water heater. Therefor we are adviced to keep the temperature at least at 140F. In Switzerland I've even seen water heaters that were kept at 175F. Is noone concerned about the legionella bacteria?
Louis
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Post# 29318-4/25/2003-16:59 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (I believe this is nonsense also )
MESSAGE: You all know how much I enjoy vintage stuff, but I wouldn't trade my ASKO dishwasher for ANY vintage dishwasher, and that includes KitchenAid. I too have serviced many a dishwasher in my time, and you gotta know improvements HAVE been made through the years. My ASKO dishwasher washes everything spotlessly and is nearly SILENT when running. It also uses less water than a Kitchen aid, and the ASKO does have two pumps - one for washing, and one for draining. I also own a roll out Westinghouse dishwasher, but wouldn't consider using it for anything but display and vintage dish storage. It's pretty, but would absolutely not wash dishes to suit my needs and would likely make a lot of racket running too. Loud appliances are bad, mmmmkay.. So are dishwashers that don't wash well.
; - )
PEACE.
B
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Post# 29319-4/25/2003-18:12 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: some newer clothes washers have a separate pump motor also.
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Post# 29320-4/25/2003-18:41 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Loud machines)
MESSAGE: A D&M/Kenmore rotorack dishwasher is loud. There's the hum, the water, and the dishes going clinkety clunk as the rack turns And that's one of my favorite appliance noises.
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Post# 29321-4/25/2003-20:41 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Water Bellows )
MESSAGE: Thanks so much for the part I now need to find a pair of channel locks so that I can clip that puppy on correctly I should find them by tomorrow morning I hope. I have tried lots of things to get that clamp to grab..\ Will keep yo posted on that for sure
Thanks
Philippe
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Post# 29322-4/25/2003-20:46 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (So much in common its scary )
MESSAGE: Bob
My dream dishwasher for show would be a rollout Westinghouse in a stainless steel front. My god parents were the first in the family to have a dishwasher and yes it made noise with that bottom impeller but for some reason when I was young it was comforting. I also thought It was so cool. Are you the person who has the westinghouse front load comercial machine?
So my hunt continues for the roll out and repairs to my current collection with the kindness and wonderful help of y'all
happy Friday
Philippe
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Post# 29323-4/25/2003-20:51 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Loud machines)
MESSAGE: I had a roto rack in my first house I bought I loved that machine but alas the house was burned and all my appliances bit the dust. It washed very well but I always had complaints from friends that my hot water was way too hot for them ... Ya never heard me bitch about my dishwasher or clean cloths. In that fire also went was a 1982 Westinghouse front load in chocolate brown. lets see the fire was 1983 God I am getting old LOL
To Appliances
Philippe
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Post# 29324-4/25/2003-21:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature)
MESSAGE: No, silly! Legionnaire's Disease is caused by dirty air conditioning ducts! We can't have our water heaters over 120 because we might scald our children in the bathtub. And it is just plain wasteful to maintain 40+ gallons of water at any higher temperature! We can't have that! We also can't bend over to load and unload a front loading washer!
-ph
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Post# 29325-4/25/2003-21:43 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: hang in there (Hiding)
MESSAGE: I'm still here. Unless there's a wash-in, I'm at Six Flags getting my Batman fix.
Ja-Sun say - "The three things to happiness... Washers, coasters, and record players"
LINK: http://www.sixflagsneworleans.com
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Post# 29326-4/25/2003-21:50 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: hang in there (LOL)
MESSAGE: A record player sitting on top of a washer. If there were a roller coaster in the picture, it would be perfect
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3128884222&category=30
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Post# 29327-4/25/2003-22:32 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature 140+!!)
MESSAGE: Interesting info on the hot water and air systems on the linked site, something new to be frightened of!
I like HOT water and believe it is essential in ANY dishwasher to use the hottest water available. I've seen many dishwashers, old and new that have grease and scum issues to the point that they smell foul, even after a cycle is run. I'm sure it's no accident dishwasher detergents now have different flavor scents to cover up for washing and sanitizing inadequacies. While working on my Kitchen Aid dishwasher recently, I needed to use a weak oven cleaner to remove the grease build-up on parts of the tub and filter. I have seen plastic tub dishwashers with a grey-black scum, probably caused by many factors - water temp too low, poor washing ability of the machine, and hard water only adds to the problem but the worst of all IMHO are those dishwasher tablet detergents. Filling a dishwasher with dirty, greasy dishes and not adding detergent to the first water fill is crazy to me. The machine removes a great deal of soil in the pre-wash and without some sort of soil suspending agent, the dirty water and pulverized particles are sprayed everywhere, coating everything which the tablet detergent must remove in the main wash that is often slowed by the foamy nature of the tablets. I've been using Cascade with enzymes in the pre-wash and then Cascade (always powder) with chlorine bleach in the main wash followed by a sani-rinse at 180F. The dishes are usually room temperature when starting a dishwasher so the enzymes lend themselves better to the cooler conditions and by the main wash, the dishes hopefully will be heated to tap temperature where the bleach is more effective. Now, I'm not walking around with tissue boxes for shoes and wearing a mask, I just like to know my dishes are as clean and sanitary as possible.
Better stop now before I get started on cold water laundry! Happy Friday all - Greg
LINK: http://www.arche.psu.edu/iec/abe/wjkl.html
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Post# 29328-4/25/2003-23:13 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: Those are two of the few things I noticed about the DD Whirlpools/kenmores. A very short agitation stroke and the cabinet is really flimsy when it is taken off. The back panel stiffens the cabinet when the brass clips are in. Plus, compared to the belt drives, the lid is really thin. On our belt drive lid, I could sit on it and it wouldn't bow in. Now if I lean on the lid of our DD, it pushes in. (Kenmore lids have that bubble upwards, I can push it down easily.) But that doesn't matter, I like the DD design. It is very solid and simple. I haven't gotten to use and play with a whirlpool dryer. (either type, the lint filter on top or below the door.) I don't know which would dry better. At first I would think that the airflow in the back and out the front would dry better. (in the back, out the front is like any dryer with the lint screen beneath the door.) And I though in the back, out the back (whirlpool's lint screen on top type.) would not dry as well since the clothes at the front wouldn't get affected by the airflow. But now I am not sure. What you said made sense (hot air hits clothes twice.) But on the other hand, on most other dryers, the airflow goes through the center from back to front and hits all the clothes (rather than just the ones at the back.) It would be interesting to set up a bunch of different dryers, all the same "type" (all gas, or all electric.) Maybe a GE, a whirlpool (one of each type) a maytag (a halo of heat and a dependable care.) and see which one dries the exact same amount and type of clothes fastest on high heat. (maybe 10 towels that were all spun with the same washer.) GEs are okay dryers, but I don't like how the element is on the back wall. The air doesn't really go THROUGH the element (as it does on most other dryers with an element canister.)
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Post# 29329-4/25/2003-23:15 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature)
MESSAGE: We just keep our water heater set on its highest. There is no reason not to. There are no kids. (Well, I am the yongest person.) Plus ours doesn't have temp labels. (it just says "high" "med" and "low" on the dial with infinite places in between those spaces. It doesn't "click" into one of those three settings is what I meant.)
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Post# 29330-4/25/2003-23:18 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: Yup, I knew that. Some frigidaire washers do, the new style GEs have a seperate pump motor. Maytag neppies have a seperate motor too. I don't think that is gain in any way. It seems like it would be better to run the pump off the big, bad, mean motor.
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Post# 29331-4/25/2003-23:24 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Loud machines)
MESSAGE: I had to remove the insulation from our maytag dishwasher. (some mold had grown on it, yuck.) That made it all the more louder than it already was. I like it:-) When the dishwasher drains, it sounds like something ready to blow up. The hum is very loud with the dimming of the lights and all. And the wash/rinse cycle, all I can here is the hum (not noticable compared to the drain.) and then the water splashes. (The water splashes I hear are the water hitting the door, right where the sound deadening insulation used to be:-) Sure we have to turn the TV up a bit, but I like the dishwasher sounds. (And for the past few months, the belt has decided to squeak when the motor is slowing down to stop after a wash, rinse or drain.) I think the belt is a little stretched. (I took the kick panel off to watch the DW drain and the belt was vibrating LOTS.) I like loud dishwashers:-)
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Post# 29332-4/25/2003-23:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature)
MESSAGE: I believe DADoES' parents had a bacteria problem with a water heater that they kept at like 100 or 110. He says they now keep it about 120 or 130. He's posted here b4 about this.
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Post# 29333-4/25/2003-23:27 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: hang in there (LOL)
MESSAGE: If i'm not mistaken, that washer is a whirlpool. I can always tell by the control panel that has way too much tilt back:-)
(Has anyone else noticed that? Whirlpool control panels are almost flat.)
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Post# 29334-4/25/2003-23:34 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature 140+!!)
MESSAGE: You got me started on cold water washes:-) I don't see a point in cold water washes. I have noticed that almost any clothes can deal with warm water. We used to use cold water washes all the time. But when I saw the mess it caused when I took apart our belt drive, we will only use warm or hot water. Overuse of powder detergent and freezing cold water (like our water in the winter.) first do not clean at all. And second, the detergent doesn't disolve at all and builds up everywhere it can. (You should have seen the manifold trap in our belt drive, it was plugged up with some blue/white gooey crap which I assume was undisolved detergent.) We will hardly ever use cold water washes anymore.
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Post# 29335-4/25/2003-23:40 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: Kurt, the top of the washer depends on the model you choose. We have the same washer you do and it has the acrylic top and lid, which is ok, but lighterweight material and not quite as durable. Your belt drive must have had the porcelain top. At one time, pretty much all the Sears machines had porcelain tops, but there are fewer and fewer and you have to go higher into the line. My 1996 90 Series had it, but this one does not.
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Post# 29336-4/25/2003-23:41 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature 140+!!)
MESSAGE: If you ever need the cold water wash for a special item, use the ATC cold water. It mixes in warm to bring it up to a decent temp. Tap cold water in the winter is bad, you're right.
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Post# 29337-4/25/2003-23:43 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: Kurt, Rich has a Sears front-loader, and you can hear the electric pump running in the background. You hear that more than the actual washer, except during the spin.
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Post# 29338-4/25/2003-23:45 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature)
MESSAGE: We do too. I'm fussy about good, hot water for the washer and dishwasher, and for showers and etc for that matter, although that involves some cold.
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Post# 29339-4/25/2003-23:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: hang in there (LOL)
MESSAGE: Kurt, a few years back Whirlpool changed to the upright control panels, more like a Sears.
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Post# 29340-4/26/2003-00:02 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature)
MESSAGE: Correctamundo. I don't recall the exact temperature involved, but it was a bit lower than the usual recommended 120° -- hey, that heater is for the two back bathrooms, no need to have it toasty-hot! A rather foul odor developed in the hot water, had to drain the tank. No more excessively-low temperature settings, thank you very much.
I've had my water heater on about 145° for several years.
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Post# 29341-4/26/2003-00:09 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: I guess our older washer had a porcelain top. But I thought our new one did too. At least it says the top and basket is porcelain on steel. Maybe that means the top part of the cabinet and not the lid? But the basket is really good. I like the coating it has. It seems really durable, just like our belt drive basket. (our belt drive basket had a grey coating, not the spreckle one.)
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Post# 29342-4/26/2003-00:13 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature 140+!!)
MESSAGE: Yup, ATC is okay cold water. At least the detergent can disolve. But most other washers don't have ATC yet. So cold is whatever temp the cold water coming in is. That is what the sears guy talked about. We were trying to decide between three different kenmores. An elite, the 80 series and a cheaper model. The lowest model didn't have the triple action agitator and it didn't have ATC. The elite didn't have a whole lot more than the 80 series. Plus they had a deal on the 80 series. We got it for just 20 dollars more than the cheaper model.
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Post# 29343-4/26/2003-00:14 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: I see. So it is louder than the main motor?
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Post# 29344-4/26/2003-00:16 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature)
MESSAGE: Plus you know you can't improve cleaning results from the dishwasher or washer. They use the hottest water possible. So you know you aren't getting "half" clean dishes. (cooler water may clean good too, but it is just the thought of it for whatever reason.)
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Post# 29345-4/26/2003-00:18 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: hang in there (LOL)
MESSAGE: I knew their current washers didn't have the flat control panels. I have been to their website a few times. But I thought they only just changed the control panels. I don't mind either type, the flatter control panels or the upright ones.
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Post# 29346-4/26/2003-00:24 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: It's not particularly loud, but you can kind of hear it "rumbling" during the wash/rinse tumbling phase.
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Post# 29347-4/26/2003-00:25 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: hang in there (LOL)
MESSAGE: Same here, I think they're equally easy to use.
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Post# 29348-4/26/2003-02:01 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: So the pump runs during the wash and rinse cycle? Wouldn't the water drain away?
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Post# 29349-4/26/2003-02:15 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: Check out this dryer
MESSAGE: This Whirlpool dryer is cool. It looks to be in great condition. Look how busy the rear is, all those pulleys and belts.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2318393915&category=42233
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Post# 29350-4/26/2003-03:34 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (motors)
MESSAGE: Overhere washers always had separate pump motors. As a matter of fact a lot of older frontloaders had three motors. One for washing, one for spinning and one for the pump. My mother's Bosch that she had from 1966 - 1976 had three and a lot of the older Mieles had three too.
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Post# 29351-4/26/2003-03:53 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: My AEG had that problem too. It was a rather silent washer, but the pump motor was horribly loud.
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Post# 29352-4/26/2003-06:59 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (motors)
MESSAGE: Dishwashers in Aus have always had a separate pump motor as far as I know.
I have seen an older Miele washer(late 70's early 80's) with a separate pump motor, and a two-in-one wash and spin motor. The motor had one shaft but had two motors in line on the shaft. There was an induction motor for wash (slow rpm) and a brush motor for spin (high rpm). On the one I saw, which was for sale cheap because it didn't spin, a brush was stuck. I opened the cabinet and whacked the motor with a screwdriver a couple of times and it begun to spin. I told the seller it only needed a new set of brushes, so he could fix it. I decided I didn't want it as it had cold fill only and I wanted one that filled with hot for a hot wash. I've also seen a Thor washer dryer from the same era which had 4 motors - pump, dryer fan, and two separate motors for wash and spin, one actually driving the other motor, not directly driving the belt.
My Asko actually has a very clever motor which is two motors in one, but it looks like one motor. It has two sets of windings around the outside, one works as a stator (induction motor) and the other works as the field (brush motor). The armature has windings for tthe brush motor but it also functions as the rotor when the induction winding is energised. It doesn't look anything special but combining two different technologies like that is very clever and must have really taken some mathematics when designing it. It allows the machine to have a nice slow tumble speed yet spin at 1400 rpm without any electronic controls.
Chris.
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Post# 29353-4/26/2003-07:31 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (I believe this is nonsense also )
MESSAGE: Hi Bob.
Asko dishwashers have a VERY good reputation in Australia.(both performance and reliability.) Their earlier ones, made by ASEA (later called Asko-ASEA, then just Asko) were rebadged as New World for the Aussie market. The New World dishwashers were not pretty, with a dull grey control panel and a mesh vent on the front. They would now be well over 20 years old yet command higher prices in the Trading Post than 5 year old Simpson, Vulcan/Dishlex, or other common models. They are quite sought after.
Chris.
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Post# 29354-4/26/2003-08:09 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: hang in there (I THINK IT'S A MAYTAG)
MESSAGE: Isn't that a MAYTAG washer the close'n'play is setting on?
LINK: http:// cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3128884222&category=30
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Post# 29355-4/26/2003-08:23 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (ASKO POPULARITY)
MESSAGE: Thank you for your vote of confidence, Chris. Of course, whenever anyone posts an opinion about an appliance, such as myself, please don't take it as written in stone or being a law. If I like quiet machines, that's swell, and if someone else likes 'em noisy, well fine. That's all just personal preference then, isn't it. Sometimes I think you fellas take me too seriously. I'm just offering you my perspective, and my opinion. That doesn't mean it's the law. Personally I get greater joy in demonstrating that my dishwasher IS running to folks by surprising them by opening the door and having it washing, than for us to have to get away from the noise because it's running like so many of my friends machines. Save the air space for music and laughter, not mechanical noise pollution. But to each his own, said the old lady as she kissed the cow.
PEACE! (not noise pollution)
B
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Post# 29356-4/26/2003-08:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature)
MESSAGE: My parent's new house has the water heater at one end near the bathrooms but the kitchen is at the other end of the house - a very long run for the water lines. We turned up the temp when they started to have problems with cleaning in the dishwasher. Running the water at the sink until hot before starting the machine helps too.
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Post# 29357-4/26/2003-08:41 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this dryer
MESSAGE: Very cool dryer - love the rounded cabinet design.
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Post# 29358-4/26/2003-08:45 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (ASKO POPULARITY)
MESSAGE: I've had to get used to the noise of the Kitchen Aid dishwasher since installing it two weeks ago, the Asko I had was nearly silent running. I had a party guest open it while running and got a face full of water spray as she couldn't tell it was on!
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Post# 29359-4/26/2003-08:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: hang in there (I THINK IT'S A WHIRLPOOL)
MESSAGE: It looks like a WP layout and the WP panels have a screw on the lower right and left hand side. You take those out so you can lift the control so you can take the body off of the washer.
It very well could be Maytag, but I'm guessing WP :-P
Anyway, those little record players were horrible. I had one as a child and it sounded like playing music with a sewing needle and a paper cup.
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Post# 29360-4/26/2003-08:57 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature 140+!!)
MESSAGE: Greg, where do you find Cascade powder with chlorine bleach? The only Cascade version with chlorine is the standard gel formula here. By the way, I've tried that el-cheapo Wal-mart "Great Value" enzyme detergent that Consumers rated as the best buy, well the stuff really works great. It cuts through some really disgusting messes at a bargain price. I do like to alternate between the enzyme and chlorine detergents too. The chlorine product keeps the tomato stains away and I believe it helps sanitize the machine better. Don't know that to be a fact, by I think it can't hurt.
Regarding lack of hot water, my neighbor said to me last week her washer has a funny odor and things come out smelly. Also said they run out of hot water quickly for bathing. She has a 6 month old and 2 yr. old along with her hubby and 2 older boys. Lots of dirty wash with all sorts of imagineable soils! Well her year and half old Maytag Atlantis with plastic basket and tub smelled like a sewer. There was a disgusting greasy soil buildup visible on the tub, basket and agitator. She washes mainly in warm and cold. Her hot water is about 110 at best. The water heater was set on low since they moved into the new place 2 years ago.
Then she says her dishwasher does not clean well. Surprise, upon inspection it had that nasty buildup you've mentioned. Uses Normal wash, with no extra water heating boost. Does not run the faucet at the sink. Now this gal is a dental hygienest. Knows all about sterilization and hygiene procedures for her work, but seemed clueless on what effect it has on laundry, dishes and the health of her family.
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Post# 29361-4/26/2003-09:06 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Hot water and kids)
MESSAGE: People turn down the hot water heater to protect their kids, now the kids don't learn how to not burn themselves, and the dishes arent clean.
Many kids today are raised in a dust/mold free sterile household, now they don't develop immunities.
What happens when these kids turn 20 and go out into the real world? They will burn themselves, and won't be able to breath.
Ken D.
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Post# 29362-4/26/2003-09:06 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Happiness!
MESSAGE: 1950 Emerson Radiophono
1977 Lady Kenmore Portable
1990s German roller coaster
speaking of coaster
Off to Six Flags.....
LINK: http://members.cox.net/rotoswirl/images/happiness%20002.jpg
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Post# 29363-4/26/2003-10:03 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: hang in there (I THINK IT'S A MAYTAG)
MESSAGE: Whirlpool
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Post# 29364-4/26/2003-10:14 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature 140+!!)
MESSAGE: The Dollar General has the powdered d/w detergent with chlorine in it. I think the Arrow brand at WD has chlorine too. Not sure I haven't seen a WD in over a year, but the Piggly Wiggly does.
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Post# 29365-4/26/2003-10:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature 140+!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Leslie - I've been lucky to find a few boxes at estate sales lately, but I have used the dishwasher detergent in the bucket from Sam's Club which contains phosphates and bleach which also seems to work well. I was going to buy a box of the Great Value at Wal-Mart last week, but it was all gone!
I have clients that wash primarily in cold and warm water and their washers & dishwashers are usually nasty too. One in particular doesn't even use detergent, they swear by one of those laundry balls hawked on the internet and infomercials. I can't imagine what the outer tub of their washer looks like! Cooler water isn't able to emulsify and suspend body oils and soil as well and most detergent and appliance manufacturers will admit that water temps below 65 or 70F hinders the cleaning power of detergents and additives. The instruction manuals for Maytag washers used to warn against water temps below 65F, not sure if they still do, but that is only effective if the consumer actually reads the book!
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Post# 29366-4/26/2003-10:36 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Hot water and kids)
MESSAGE: And nobody teaches them to do laundry either...
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Post# 29367-4/26/2003-11:02 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Hot water and kids)
MESSAGE: My mom suggested home-ec for me as a high school elective. I did take it for 1 year. It really was a lot of fun as.....and we had a very young teacher.....she was very cool and did a lot to incorporate the handful of boys into the class. This was the middle 70's. You can imagine how much $#@$ I rec'd for taking this class.
I intentionally would volunteer for clean up, to play with the coppertone KDS-15 dishwasher. Some of the cooking, family life and home care aspects took hold. But clothing/sewing instruction was wasted. I can't sew a button. Probably could, but too lazy to try! I remember we had a Hamilton/Franklin washer and dryer for fabric care. It always sounded as if they were falling apart. The dryer was just like the one in Unimatics "ring-around-the-collar" Wisk video
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Post# 29368-4/26/2003-11:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Hot water and kids)
MESSAGE: ...well of course as some of us have seen, they don't teach them to do laundry because they never figured it out themselves!
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Post# 29369-4/26/2003-11:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature 140+!!)
MESSAGE: I find it just frightening to imagine what I might encounter going into some homes. Eeeeew?
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Post# 29370-4/26/2003-11:17 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Hot water and kids)
MESSAGE: I loved Home Ec. Took from grades 7-12. We had GE appliances, including a minibasket w/d. We had a portable GE potscrubber dishwasher. We got new major appliances each year and the old would be sold at discount at the store that supplied the school system. It was also my first contact with a KitchenAid mixer (the older kind with the knob on top and the glass bowl). I did well with sewing too. I use it mainly for alterations today, though I'm glad I learned.
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Post# 29371-4/26/2003-11:47 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info:
MESSAGE: The pump ony runs when it's draining and for the "suds knock down" at the end of the main wash cycle. It's really the only noise you hear when the FridGEmore is running, otherwise they are almost silent in operation. I have the BOL Frigidaire unit without all the additional sound insulation and I'd have to say it sounds like a our dishwasher when the pump is activated. The drain pump is located in the front of the washer, whereas the main drive motor is located in the back.
-Alex
PS: Are we allowed to post pictures in our posts? If so, can someone show me the formula to post pics?
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Post# 29372-4/26/2003-13:55 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Hot water and kids)
MESSAGE: And then they blame it on the washer............
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Post# 29373-4/26/2003-14:21 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Hot water and kids)
MESSAGE: Hehe, if they are babied that badly, they will still be home at age 20, and 25 LOL.
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Post# 29374-4/26/2003-14:27 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature 140+!!)
MESSAGE: Well they read the label on the shirt and it says cold wash. They put it on cold. They notice that most clothes say cold. So they leave it on cold. They don't realize anything, they just know that most clothes need cold water so that they won't get ruined. No clothes will get ruined by getting washed in warm water. I can't imagine someone not using detergent. But then there is the other end of it, someone puts in 3 scoops of powder detergent, along with a cold wash and that is the recipe for crap inside the washer. (that white powdery stinky junk that looks like wet flour was stuck to the outer tub.)
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Post# 29375-4/26/2003-14:33 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Hot water and kids)
MESSAGE: Thats funny, just maybe 5 months ago I was in home ec. I didn't choose that. Our school has a class where there is shop, sewing, cooking, drafting and some career thing. I was at cooking and one of the days, our teacher got some new dishes and stuff for the room. She rolled out the GE portable and attempted to attach the faucet adaptor thing. It was simple but she couldn't do it. I didn't really either, but I fiqured it out. I didn't here the thing run though, it was the end of class. But then another time, she washed some towels when we where there. They had a pair of fairly new maytags. She had it on high agitation with low water. I thought the water was going to splash all out. I saw the inside and it was a mess (not from the slashing.) but because someone must have dumped detergent all over inside (it was all over the lid and agitator and all over the cabinet where the lid covers.) There was about equal #s of boys and girls. That was because, for one, we are in the year 2003, and because the class had all those 5 things rolled into one.
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Post# 29376-4/26/2003-14:37 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Hot water and kids)
MESSAGE: Those are the type of people with appliances that always need repair. Now I wonder why?
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Post# 29377-4/26/2003-15:36 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (VINTAGE APPLIANCES)
MESSAGE: Excuse me for asking, but what does that post have to do with vintage appliances? Could we PLEASE try to post things that have SOMETHING to do with vintage appliances, and by that , I mean at least a 15 year old appliance, which happens to be older than the guy doing the posting. Reading posts from 12 year olds is all very amusing, I'm sure, but so far, I've only read one that has anything to do with vintage appliances. We may be losing focus here....
The faucet adaptor thingy is called a unicouple, by the way.
PEACE (seriously)
UNCLE BOB
who believes children should be seen and not heard.
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Post# 29378-4/26/2003-16:12 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (VINTAGE APPLIANCES)
MESSAGE: Bob, you believe ahem "children" should be seen not heard right? Well you have never seen nor heard me, so what I TYPE on here is okay with your belief. Besides, you can bypass my posts without reading them.
Going back to the 60s here-PEACE.
(BTW, I am 15, not 12. May I ask, how old are you? Perhaps you have to jump into the present instead of hanging back 30-40 years into the past. Peace, peace, peace, war is bad, peace, peace, peace.)
Email me at kurt_dixon150@hotmail.com if you want to respond, lets keep arguments off here.
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Post# 29379-4/26/2003-16:27 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: AGE
MESSAGE: Kurt - you can tell my age by looking in my profile. I'm 40. Quite vintage to a 15 year old like yourself, I'm sure, but since I expect to live to be 120, I still consider myself quite young.
If you wanna learn about vintage machines, read my posts. If you don't wanna, then just skip 'em. I'm not gonna argue with a 15 year old. I oughta just spank your butt and put you on restriction....missy.
PEACE - AND I DO MEAN THAT SINCERELY.
B
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Post# 29380-4/26/2003-17:48 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: AGE (I know we got off the subject but now its a frigidiare )
MESSAGE: It does come back around sometimes to vintage Bob take a mothers helper and you will be fine. LOL (laughing on Line) but at least humans are communicating. And we have a variety!!
OK here is one for y'all I took apart my Frigidiare Jet Action Agitator and forgot the configurations that it goes back in such as nut, lock nut .. agitator so on and so for I am begging for help PLEASE
Model Number is WCDAL 40VD8469
Thanks
Philippe
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Post# 29381-4/26/2003-18:43 ||| Kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Kids IN Hot Water)
MESSAGE: Sorry I took this thing further off topic.
My main point was, turn those water-heaters up to 140F so the dishwasher (hopefully a classic one) can do it's job.
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Post# 29382-4/26/2003-20:26 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: New Additions
MESSAGE: I spent most of the afternoon moving machines, cabinets, and workbenches around and after it was all done, I still can't fit the car in the shop!
Here are some pictures or the latest additions. The wall oven and the matching stove top (sorry no picture of that) will be going up on ebay. If any member is interested before I ebay it, e mail me at applianceville@comcast.net.
The Frigidaire FL and WCI Frigidaire Gas Dryer were both in the trash of one of my appliance stores. The GM Frigidaire 1-18 gas dryer was the one I won on ebay last week. The washer and GM dryer both work fine. The WCI Frigidaire runs okay and appears to have been used little. Very little lint behind the screen and the door and interior still look factory new.
I'll probably hook it up to the gas, tomorrow.
Steve
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_2003/lst?.dir=/April+2003+Additions
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Post# 29383-4/26/2003-20:37 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: New Additions (New Additions)
MESSAGE: Hi Steve,
I hope you and Rinnie are doing well. I love the new Additions. Especially the FL washer and the double oven.
I hope to chat with you soon
Peter
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Post# 29384-4/26/2003-21:57 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: New Additions
MESSAGE: Cool. What year are the oven and the stovetop?
The Frigemore looks great. That's a recent model with the wash, rinse, spin, door lock light. The colors cycle is shorter than the regular or "whites" cycle. Mine doesn't have spins between the rinses in the Perm Press cycle. I guess that's to have a cool down effect. There's a 2 minute spin before the last rinse and the final spin which is selectable.
I wonder why they threw the FL away?
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Post# 29385-4/26/2003-22:11 ||| JerseyMIke (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Vintage Appliance Alert to West Coast TV Land viewers.
MESSAGE: Tonight's episode (Saturday, April 26, 2003) of The Andy Griffith Show is the one where Aunt Bea appears on the quiz show and wins all of those appliances ... including a top loading dishwasher. They're in coppertone. My family didn't get color tv until the show went off the air so this was the first time that I saw the show in color. Enjoy!
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Post# 29386-4/26/2003-22:19 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: Cold Water Washing
MESSAGE: These are picts of a machine that was brought to me to repair. The water level switch had shorted out but as you can see from the picts it was not worth fixing.
They used cold water only, generic detergent, no bleach and lots of fab softener.
click the picts to make them full size.....I am not responsible if you vomit.
LINK: http://bellsouthpwp.net/d/u/dumontj/yuck.html
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Post# 29387-4/26/2003-22:29 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: AGE
MESSAGE: Spank my butt? For what?! For challenging you? That is hilarious. You can't handle a little challenge without tossing out spanks? Besides, I wouldn't let some 40 year old from ahem "Virginia" touch my ass. So if I want to know everything about vintage machines, your posts will answer everything? I didn't ever say I didn't like your posts. I said I didn't like how you treat me. (Like some sort of garbage.)
BTW, you emailed me, there was no reason to post on here too just to prove you could toss off a 15 year old.
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Post# 29388-4/26/2003-22:36 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Cold Water Washing
MESSAGE: Very discusting. How can someone manage to put their clothes in there? Ours wasn't CLOSE to that. There was some buildup underneath the agitator and between the basket and tub. All of the grossness was out of sight. And the basket and agitator was CLEAN and shiny.
But on that picture there is caked on brown crap on the basket of that washer. Why wouldn't someone wipe that junk off?
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Post# 29389-4/27/2003-00:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature 140+!!)
MESSAGE: Kurt, correction. Many Maytag Atlantis, Many Kenmore & Whirlpools, high-end GE, TOL Amana, and most Frigidaire produced front loaders as well as Neptunes; Whirlpool produced front loaders all have ATC. Even one or two Frigidaire top loaders now have ATC. ANd F&P.
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Post# 29390-4/27/2003-00:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature)
MESSAGE: For economic reasons I keep mine set at about 120. The DW heats the water up to about 140 for main wash. For touch loads of whites, I do set the heater up to 150 for wehn I do an Oxyclean soak after I've done a Biz pre-soak.
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Post# 29391-4/27/2003-00:58 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature 140+!!)
MESSAGE: I have white cotton sheets that say wash in cold. I do them in hot. PP sheets that say wash in cold, wash in warm. My flannel sheets I wash in warm. My older PP sheets I was in hot.
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Post# 29392-4/27/2003-02:06 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature 140+!!)
MESSAGE: Okay, well ATC is rather new still.
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Post# 29393-4/27/2003-02:09 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature 140+!!)
MESSAGE: I don't even read the tags on sheets or towels. They all get washed in hot water and dried on hot. I wash pretty much everything else with warm and dry on low temperature (it takes longer but I usually only have to do one or two loads at a time and I HATE clothes that are all shrunk.)
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Post# 29394-4/27/2003-02:22 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Cold Water Washing
MESSAGE: Gack! That must have had a rank odor.
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Post# 29395-4/27/2003-05:11 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: New Additions
MESSAGE: Darn! You will have to sell the car or start building again!
Wrap the oven up (and the stove top) and send it to me. (Keep on dreaming Louis!)
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Post# 29396-4/27/2003-07:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Cold Water Washing
MESSAGE: I used to know people that used only cold water for washing. They also didn't sort their laundry. The average non-washer-enthusiast usually will use warm, normal, and probably Tide for detergent.
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Post# 29397-4/27/2003-08:04 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: New Additions (if you need parts for the Fl )
MESSAGE: I have a bunch of spare parts for the Front loader if you need any. Gutted one with a bad wash drum
PHilippe
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Post# 29398-4/27/2003-08:27 ||| mikepaquette (Ontario Canada)
SUBJECT: Vintage drawer dishwashers
MESSAGE: I have been on a quest for a vintage impeller wash , dishwasher for some time. I thought I was getting close when I came across a Hotpoint front loader. I was thrilled until I descovered you had to remove the top rack to load the bottom rack. Not practicle for me. I am building a breakfast bar in my kitchen & hope to be able to use the machine . Can anyone tell me how many brands have been made in the drawer style. I had a GE years ago But have seen pic's of a Westinghouse (Imperial Bob's) gorgeous machine . Are there any other makes that I am not aware of ?? Thanks for your time Michael mikepaquette@sympatico.ca
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Post# 29399-4/27/2003-09:44 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: Cold Water Washing
MESSAGE: that crud is over 1/4 inch thick. You need a paint scraper to remove it.
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Post# 29400-4/27/2003-14:05 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Cold Water Washing
MESSAGE: Eeeeeeeeeeew! A whole colony of Legionella bacteria in there - I do hope you were wearing gloves...
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Post# 29401-4/27/2003-14:22 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Weekend Finds
MESSAGE: We drove behind Lowes today and found the first vintage washer I've seen there - a 1971 Frigidaire 1-18 Jet Action. It's in pretty rough shape, they cut the cord and drain hose on the back of the machine (probably to get it through a doorway) so I don't know if it works or not. There was also a DD Kenmore I brought home for repair/resale - in wonderful shape, just a broken lid switch. I also posted a pic of the Neptune washer in the midst of repairs - also for resale eventually.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/New+pics&.src=ph&.dnm=Kenmore+and+1-18+finds.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/New%2bpics%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 29402-4/27/2003-14:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: New Additions
MESSAGE: Cool finds - someone will be thrilled with the avocado oven and rangetop, in nice condition too! My aunt had a Hotpoint kitchen all in avocado that was very elegant. That GM dryer looks nice too, another good ebay find!
How old do you think that WCI dryer is? Will be interesting to hear what you think of it. I remember using a Westinghouse dryer similar to this design with large opening and angled, full length baffles. It seemed to work well, does this one have a porcelain drum or were they gone by this time?
Are you sure you didn't steal that front-load Frigidaire washer? ;-) Truly amazing, and I thought a broken Neptune was a gem...
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Post# 29403-4/27/2003-14:55 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Cold Water Washing
MESSAGE: It must have taken quite some time to build up that much then. I bet there was gooey crap between the basket and tub right. Ours had a layer of mold on the bottom of the tub which was causing a bad smell, but I just wiped it off and everything was good.
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Post# 29404-4/27/2003-15:06 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: Weekend Finds (Weekend Finds)
MESSAGE: Greg,
Real Great Finds!
Peter
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Post# 29405-4/27/2003-15:37 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: Sorry
MESSAGE: I want to apologize to everyone for some of my posts. I have made a couple people really mad. I won't post here for awhile. I will try to just read. This should be my last offtopic post.
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Post# 29406-4/27/2003-16:39 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: New Additions (Sassy Oven Range!!!)
MESSAGE: Glad to see more classics finding their way home, that oven range looks very classy, in the top oven is the hole in the middle for a rotisserie????and what does the sider control under the switches do???
Never mind about the car, more important to have a fully functioning laundry studio I say...(thats my excuse anyway!!!)
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 29407-4/27/2003-16:48 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Cold Water Washing (Germ Warfare!!!)
MESSAGE: I hope you had the thickest pair of rubber gloves you could find before you stripped this sad specimen!!!!
Germ warfare has nothing on that...Ugggggg...
Interesting debate on the water temps though....always wak up to temp to high on the combi boiler for a really steamy wash in the Filter-Flows and twinnys, but am aware that if too hot it warms the old frail rubber pipes too much and does cause more expansion drips etc..
Dishwashing is a different thing, always been used to cold water start and gradual heat build up, which gives optimun use to our dishwasher powders which remove starch protein and egg in cold/warm water, then dissolving the heavy stuff and grease with the hot etc....
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 29408-4/27/2003-16:54 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: Weekend Finds (No Such Luck Here!!)
MESSAGE: Great finds and all for free as well, no such luck over here all pick-ups get taken to the dimantle yards or scrap due to new European legislation laws.....
What type of Agi is in the Kenmore, is it the famous "Bob Shredmore"????
The neppy looks great to work on with all the extra space unlike most front loaders....what was up with it bust bearing???
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 29409-4/27/2003-18:34 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: New Additions (Sassy Oven Range!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike,
The sliding control under the switches has two positions -- cook towards the left and clean towards the right. It locks the oven door and prevents it from being opened during the high heat (approximately 900 degrees Fahrenheit) self cleaning cycle. The high heat burns off spills from baking, etc. without the use of any chemicals. It leaves a residue that has to be wiped off with a damp cloth at the end of cleaning cycle. A typical cleaning cycle lasts for about 2 1/2 to 3 hours. (Some self cleaning ovens lock automatically and don't have the locking lever.) The door has to be locked to prevent fires (from a sudden rush of air) and burn injuries. When the cycle is over, the oven door can't be opened until the oven cools to a temperature (approximately 600 degrees F.) that is slightly higher than normal cooking temperatures.
Mike
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Post# 29410-4/27/2003-19:47 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: SPIN COUNTING
MESSAGE: Had a swell time. Here's some photos.
Peace.
B
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/SPINCOUNT/index.htm
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Post# 29411-4/27/2003-19:58 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIN COUNTING (get your motor runnin')
MESSAGE: COOL! So the Fastko is the fastest in your studio, eh?
Washins are fun.
oh Toddddd.....
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Post# 29412-4/27/2003-20:57 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIN COUNTING (SPIN COUNTING)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob,
This was put together real well. Not only was the photos Great
But the sounds were real cool!
Jetaction!
Peter
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Post# 29413-4/27/2003-21:36 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIN COUNTING
MESSAGE: My Dear Bob! You have to tell me what that little gadgett is, and where I can get one! That is SOOOOO Cool!!! Mark
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Post# 29414-4/27/2003-22:07 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIN COUNTING (strobotach)
MESSAGE: I call it Jeff LeFever's magic wand....He calls it a STROBOTACH....it was really fun to play with, for sure...We pointed it at the motor pulley of Grandpa Kenmore dryer, and also at his blower pulley and were able to count the speed of those too...I think your best bet at finding out where to get one is to ask Jeff LeFever directly...He IS a wizard at these matters and will surely tell you where to get a magic wand of your own so you can become a wizard too..Thanks Peteski & JasonL too for your posts of appreciation. Glad you enjoyed.
PEACE.
B
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Post# 29415-4/27/2003-22:13 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIN COUNTING (get your motor runnin')
MESSAGE: Bob, looks like it was a great time. Those photos are really good. Thanks for sharing ... I always enjoy your photos. Which machine was the fastest?
Jason L, we will have another wash-in soon ... the workshop is being built as we speak, one machine in mid-shipment and another soon behind it. I have enough time to call Craters & Freighters so that we can have Bob (Appnut) shipped in for the next wash-in. hehe Todd
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Post# 29416-4/27/2003-22:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIN COUNTING
MESSAGE: Bob, thanks for taking the fascinating specificatio0n numbers of actual reality of vintage washers like that. I'm really impressed the 1/18 got up to 653 rpms. Very impressed with the Spacemate's speed too. Also, thanks for whoever who took the pictuyre of you, John, and Tom, it was great to see all 3 of y'all. Bob
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Post# 29417-4/27/2003-23:59 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: Spin speeds
MESSAGE: Bob you guys are just damn clever, ill give you that.Hope everyone has a great week. Maybe next time you can check a unimatic? Can't remember if you have that one tucked away somewhere. nice graphics thanks again.
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Post# 29418-4/28/2003-00:50 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Sorry (Re: Postings:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Kurt, please don't feel now like you can't at all do any Posting's. Like I mentioned, just try to keep to Club Site Posting info and use the other Sub-Site for other Posting's, OK?
Stay happy and well and keep us informed as to how you are doing and what's happening.
My best to you, your newer Club Friend, Steve
"Sacto Teddy Bear"
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Post# 29419-4/28/2003-01:59 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Sorry (Re: Postings:)
MESSAGE: Thanks Steve. I like this site and the people on it, I didn't want to make anyone mad. But I did, I will still post but I will try to post less (and not yammer on and on, I know I do that.)
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Post# 29420-4/28/2003-04:16 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIN COUNTING
MESSAGE: Nice pictures and nice music too. Isn't that thing wonderful, we have fun with that on every convention. Thanks for sharing (that's what this is all about isn't it?).
Louis
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Post# 29421-4/28/2003-06:59 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIN COUNTING (strobotach)
MESSAGE: Hi Bob, that was great.
Sorry, I don't know Jeff Le Fever's applianceville name. Do you know if the strobotech was a commercially available gadget, or if it was made up especially from components or from a kit?
I tried to make up a device to do the same trick but it was very crude. I bought a D-I-Y kit for a counter module, which counted one for every time a contact was made. Then I connected one wire of the module to the drum and one to a flexible metal strip. I connected a small brass bolt to one spoke of the washer drum pulley (a front loader) and made up a bracket to hold the flexi strip, so that the bolt hit the strip once for each revolution. (and thus the counter registered "one" for each revolution.) I then used a stopwatch to count one minute, and recorded the number of contacts over the minute. It worked to a point, but the counter couldn't count fast enough - at over 650 rpm it couldn't keep up.
I just HAVE to get one of those strobotech gadgets.
Chris.
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Post# 29422-4/28/2003-07:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIN COUNTING (get your STrobotach here.)
MESSAGE: You can order them here.
LINK: http://www.electrical-contractor.net/The_Store/EX/461830_31.htm
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Post# 29423-4/28/2003-07:35 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIN COUNTING (Great Man Super )
MESSAGE: that was too cool and I thought my 1/18 spun faster than that LOL
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Post# 29424-4/28/2003-07:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIN COUNTING (get your STrobotach here.)
MESSAGE: Was just going to post that link - you beat me to it! I was surprised at how reasonable they seem to be - there is also one on ebay starting at $14.99 used.
Great pics as usual Bob, thanks for sharing the findings. I seem to remember that the unimatic at the Minneapolis convention ran a bit faster than 1140 rpm - just like the 653 reading on the 1-18.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2526438519&category=25399
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Post# 29425-4/28/2003-08:47 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Workshop reminder
MESSAGE: Please send me a message ASAP if you are planning or thinking of planning to attend the Westy Workshop at George's Home this coming Saturday.
George would like a head count. So far I haven't received any RSVP's.
Even if you know how to get there, PLEASE send a note.
Thanks,
Steve
applianceville@comcast.net
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Post# 29426-4/28/2003-08:53 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: History of Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Not sure if anyone has seen this link, so I'll post the URL. It's pretty interesting...
LINK: http://www.libraries.wright.edu/staff/dunbar/arch/ms262.old.htm
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Post# 29427-4/28/2003-10:00 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (VINTAGE APPLIANCES)
MESSAGE: Thank you, Bob!!! And now back to our regularly scheduled program... VINTAGE machines!
-ph
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Post# 29428-4/28/2003-10:02 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: AGE (Frigidaire tub nut)
MESSAGE: How did you get the tub nut out???
-ph
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Post# 29429-4/28/2003-10:04 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Kids IN Hot Water)
MESSAGE: I have a page from a Frigidaire Tech Talk outside my cube at work. It talks about "for proper washing, water should be 140-160, hotter than your hand can stand." People are forever going "On no, I'd burn myself in the shower!" Like they don't have cold water controls...
-ph
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Post# 29430-4/28/2003-10:31 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIN COUNTING
MESSAGE: Wow!!! Impressive machines, impressive information, impressive company and impressive pic format!
-ph
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Post# 29431-4/28/2003-12:23 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: WCI Gibsonaire
MESSAGE: For a while in the early 80s, WCI was labeling Gibson top loader machines as Frigidaire. Here is a pic of a BOL one on Ebay. You don't see them that often, most of the WCI Frigidaires of that period were rebadged Westinghouse top loaders. Look....yet another agitator up WCI's sleeve. All of the Gibson style agitators I have seen had the top fins, like old Norge agitators.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2319197251&category=20714
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Post# 29432-4/28/2003-12:39 ||| gewasherguy (Cabot, Arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: Sorry (No reason to be sorry)
MESSAGE: I would not apologize at all for anything you have said and if it made someone mad then that is just life. There are a few on here that seem to be to "touchy" so it is their issue. Continue to post..I think everyone enjoys hearing from you.
Thanks,
Bryan
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Post# 29433-4/28/2003-13:19 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Hotpoint DW-sink combo
MESSAGE: Unfortunately, no pic...
-ph
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2319114398&category=20715
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Post# 29434-4/28/2003-13:27 ||| nmaineman36 (Portland Maine)
SUBJECT: Omaha mini wash in at Greg's
MESSAGE: Hey everyone..finally got a chance to meet Greg on Sunday and did a couple of loads with him ..one in the control top Frigidaire and one in the Kelvinator. The Control Top was very impressive and that was the first time I have ever seen a Unimatic in action. The Kelvinator was interesting but what a water hog it is. I got to see his collection and used a Filtrator dryer and that was also the first time I have ever seen one work. Very very impressive.
I did bring Greg a bottle of the famous New England Softener ...NuSoft and I have a feeling I will be shipping him a care package from Maine with that in it!
Mike
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Post# 29435-4/28/2003-13:49 ||| Rolevine (USA (Massachusetts))
SUBJECT: Age of my Norge Wall Oven?
MESSAGE: Hi,
We bought a really old house in Maine and the oven, which still works as well as can be expected looks like it predates Dick Clark (and that's OLD). The model # is 4501 and the Serial # is E-52223. Is there any way I can find out how old it is?
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Post# 29436-4/28/2003-15:09 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint DW-sink combo (exclusive photos...)
MESSAGE: Amazingly, Mike from Canada who's looking for a roll out dishwasher has been corresponding with me about this Hotpoint sink combo, and has been kind enough to share with me the photos of the unit that he got from the seller. So now, I will share the photos with you as well. It's a cool unit, but not terribly convenient to use, as the top rack must be removed before loading the bottom rack....and it certainly needs a new paint job and will first need to be stripped of the paint job that someone has already given it....be sure to let the background midi play all the way through, 'cause the improv solo in the middle is really great sounding...Aloha, Hotpoint....
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/HOTPOINT/index.htm
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Post# 29437-4/28/2003-15:22 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIN COUNTING
MESSAGE: Hi Bob
Great pics..now we know how wet "Damp Dry" really is as Bendix used to say in its first adverts....
Did the 1-18 range never spin as fast as the 1140 unimatics then??
Is the last pic the Sanyo washer converted to a spinner????
Cheers, Mike
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Post# 29438-4/28/2003-15:36 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIN COUNTING (DAMP DRY BENDIX - SANYO SPINNER)
MESSAGE: Tom tells me that the 323 speed of my Bendix is the higher, improved gear box (mine's a '47) and that the very first models from the late 30's spun even slower! I guess they must have spun about like a GE combo then - pathetically! Yes, that last photo is of my converted Sanyo washer from 1983, which I now use for spinning only. Notice, I painted it pink & green, and added a handle and an emblem to the front of the cabinet. Now, it's a one of a kind, and the only one exactly like it in the world today. Why be normal, that's what I always say...
PEACE.
B
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Post# 29439-4/28/2003-17:07 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Sorry (No reason to be sorry)
MESSAGE: I got mad too though, I know what that kind of thing does to clubs and forums. I didn't want it to happen here, I will still post, but I just won't post 10 things that have nothing to do with this topic. I can understand why Bob said what he said. It could have been said nicer, but that is okay, forgive and forget right?
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Post# 29440-4/28/2003-17:29 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint DW-sink combo (exclusive photos...)
MESSAGE: Bob, the rack set up is very similar to our 57 front load HP. The bottom rack is exactly the same, the top somewhat different. Ours did not have the "tower" on top rack (not sure what it does). I'm guessing that this would have the black bakelite impeller. The were shaped conically with spiral fins. Noisy but could move water. The flatware basket was plastic (bakelite?) and sat directly over impeller. YES, you could easily break it if something fell out and hit the impeller. Had seperate drain pump.
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Post# 29441-4/28/2003-17:53 ||| mrcoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: Easy automatic washer acquisition
MESSAGE: I am going to try making a purchase of an early 1950s vintage Easy automatic washer. The person who is selling it states that he is very busy, and only wants to be contacted if the funds are available and the unit will be picked up (and yes, he did show me the unit). Otherwise, he will hold it until somebody else specifys that make and model, and buys it immediately.
I will know in about a week, whether or not I will be able to have enough money to purchase this item for restoration. If I do make the transaction, and can manage to rebuild it, I would like to sell it to somebody on this forum. Can anybody tell me how much a machine like this would be worth after restoration?
Photos will be available if I am able to get this unit. Thanks.
MrCoffee
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Post# 29442-4/28/2003-22:32 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Flair on E-Bay
MESSAGE: I'm not sure if this came up before, but there's a 40" Frigidaire Flair on E-Bay. It looks like it's in pretty good shape.
Here's another time when I wish that I lived in a house and not an apartment. Sigh! Oh well, I can always dream.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2318883237&category=20712
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2318883237&category=20712
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Post# 29443-4/28/2003-23:29 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: Appliance Billboards
MESSAGE: Thought some of you might enjoy these if you've not already seen them before. Prices and storage issues (heehee) might make them a bit impractical as collectables, but they're fun to look at.
LINK: http://www.billboardsofthepast.com/appliances.htm
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Post# 29444-4/28/2003-23:35 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: SPIN COUNTING (Great Man Super )
MESSAGE: Philippe, the specs on 1/18s that I've seen say spin speed is 640/660 rpms.
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Post# 29445-4/28/2003-23:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint DW-sink combo (exclusive photos...)
MESSAGE: Well, if the truth be told, EVERY hotpoint dishwasher of that era that I ever came across had this type of rack arrangement, where the top rack had to be removed. And I've counted in my history and I now remember getting to play with 7 of them, mostly in Dallas. It wasn't until this club that I found out that some models did have separate sliding racks. This model in the pics still has the original timer knob too.
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Post# 29446-4/29/2003-02:48 ||| Jakins (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint DW-sink combo (exclusive photos...)
MESSAGE: This Hot point looks like it MAYBE a pre war model. I may be wrong about this but the door is like no other hotpoint that I have ever seen. All other post war Hotpoints that i have seen were very thick this was done for there No gasket water seal. there was also a wide metal band on the door for this. also the steam vent was on the top of the door so that you could not see it when the door was closed. the racks look like the same design as mine. You do not have to remove the entire upper rack there is a middle insert that lifts out to give access to the lower rack. another thing that i notice is that the silverware basket is stainless steel on this one all others that I have seen are bakealite. I put a link to some pics of my 49 hotpoint for you to compare. sorry that they are not better.
Best Wishes to All
John
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/jakins2001/vwp?.dir=/My+Photo+Album&.src=ph&.dnm=Hotpoint+open+before.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/jakins2001/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bPhoto%2bAlbum%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 29447-4/29/2003-08:04 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint DW-sink combo (exclusive photos...)
MESSAGE: Jakins, thanks for the pix. HP must have kept the same basic design for awhile. Two differences in yours and our 57; our impeller did not have the straight vanes, it had four of the curved. Our top rack did not have the tower, was that to help water throw? Our racks had been coated with plastic stuff and the whole top rack lifted off. As mentioned the door was deep but not thick. The sides of the door recessed into tub when closed to help keep spray in. Again, great pix, thanks
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Post# 29448-4/29/2003-12:02 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire 1-18 Spin Speed
MESSAGE: I had a midline late 70's 1-18 Frigidaire and I could swear the highest spin speed was around 1000. Am I confused? I also had a non-vintage Frigi front loader at that time and the clothes coming from the 1/18 seemed drier than the ones coming from the front-loader.
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Post# 29449-4/29/2003-12:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire 1-18 Spin Speed
MESSAGE: As far as I know, the solid tub Rapidry 1010 machines made before 1970 were the last of the fast spinning Frigidaires. Those machines use the direct drive rollermatic mechanism. The 1-18 uses a belt-drive mechanism, but still uses rollers. The specifications still say "Rapidry" but the speed is about 640, I forget the exact figure.
However, the 1-18 of course does have an extremely large tub, so it's possible that "G Forces" are playing a role in what you're experiencing. It would also depend on what spin speed your FL is. I think some of the early Frigmores only went to 850, so with the speed vs. tub size correlation, there might not be much difference between that and a 1-18.
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Post# 29450-4/29/2003-19:57 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Frigi 1-18 Spin Speeds
MESSAGE: Scott55405--You're right; I'm sure I saw 'Rapidry' somewhere on the machine and thought that meant Rapidry 1000, as in the machines from the '60's. Plus, my '96 Frigi frontloader only ramped up to 850 in the last 60 seconds of spin time. I always thought that was odd.
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Post# 29451-4/29/2003-21:39 ||| Bill-MO (Brookline Station, MO)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint DW-sink combo (Westinghouse Install)
MESSAGE: Have enjoyed viewing the pics of your Hotpoint DW and of the Westinghouse DW as well. Was curious as to how the dishwasher detergent cup on the top rack worked...does it turn upside down with the force of the water or something like that? Is an interesting design in itself...
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Post# 29452-4/29/2003-23:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint DW-sink combo (Westinghouse Install)
MESSAGE: Bill, that detergent cup was merely a strainer. As the water flowed through the tub during wassh, it washed out & dissolved the powder with the action. It did not turn upside down.
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Post# 29453-4/30/2003-00:16 ||| Haley.dog (Tulsa, Oklahoma)
SUBJECT: GE LW-11 wall hung refrigerator
MESSAGE: I recently bought a ranch home built in 1958 that still has its original GE LW11 wall hung refrigerator. The refrigerator functions, but is often erratic (what do you expect from a 45 year old appliance?). My girlfriend and I love this beast and want to keep it running well. I fear I will soon need a new relay and GE has already confirmed that the part is NLA. I'd like to locate an old LW11 that I can pirate for parts and I'd like to hear from anyone with a lead on one.
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Post# 29454-4/30/2003-07:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: Workless Washdays With Bendix
MESSAGE: Thanks for the manual of the month Robert - another great classic!
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Post# 29455-4/30/2003-08:10 ||| steved (Albany, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint DW-sink combo (exclusive photos...)
MESSAGE: Hey, all ..... according to my parts catalogues, that dishwasher sink combo is probably from 1947, either a 10MC9 or 10MD3..... the opening in the center of the top rack was due to the fact that the dw filled from a top spray port. Im pretty sure that the stainless steel top is not original, because I can only find porcelain tops shown in my parts catalog. Also,1948 was the first year with the deep door design that continued on until 1957-58..... SteveD
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Post# 29456-4/30/2003-09:23 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: GE LW-11 wall hung refrigerator
MESSAGE: This guy fixes fridges maybe email him and ask if he knows how to get parts to fix yours?
www.Monitortop.com
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Post# 29457-4/30/2003-10:12 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Workless Washdays With Bendix (Saucy!!!)
MESSAGE: Is it me, or are the photos in the "Foundation Garments", "Lingerie", and Hosiery" sections a tad bit on the saucy side? Got to have something to keep the guys interested... LOL!!!
-ph
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Post# 29458-4/30/2003-10:37 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Workless Washdays With Bendix (Saucy!!!)
MESSAGE: My stars! What brazen Hussies! (I'm glad they made it clear that "foundation garments" should be washed "freqently")
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Post# 29459-4/30/2003-10:59 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE LW-11 wall hung refrigerator
MESSAGE: check out the "for sale" section of this site. There was a GE wall mount refrigerator listed on it a few weeks back.
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Post# 29460-4/30/2003-12:48 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: POD 4-30
MESSAGE: What a great picture of the day.
I just love the look of this Frigidaire Dishwasher.
Any club members have this free-standing model?
I love the Pink also. I think that the style of this machine was so classy looking!
Brent
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Post# 29461-4/30/2003-12:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Workless Washdays With Bendix (Saucy!!!)
MESSAGE: Page 27 and 29..
HUBBA HUBBA!
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Post# 29462-4/30/2003-19:44 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 4-30
MESSAGE: Robert has a white one installed in his kitchen and a sunny yellow one downstairs in the cathedral of washerdom basement.
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Post# 29463-4/30/2003-19:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Workless Washdays With Bendix (Saucy!!!)
MESSAGE: Loook out, blue towel time for Jason!!!
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Post# 29464-4/30/2003-20:09 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Workless Washdays With Bendix (Saucy!!!)
MESSAGE: That surpised me too! I didn't think we would see that from so long ago. (when skirts were no shorter than the knees lol) I like old appliance manuals. Some of them give me a good laugh. (like that Bendix one.)
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Post# 29465-4/30/2003-20:15 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: login
MESSAGE: My Pink Frigidaire on the home page is no longer pulsating when i log in is it the site, or my computer?
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Post# 29466-4/30/2003-20:21 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: login
MESSAGE: ill be darned after i posted and hit home the frigidaire was pulsating. Do i have gremlins or what :-)
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Post# 29467-4/30/2003-22:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Workless Washdays With Bendix (Saucy!!!)
MESSAGE: BOB!
You're not supposed to give the secret away. :-P
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Post# 29468-4/30/2003-22:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Workless Washdays With Bendix (Saucy!!!)
MESSAGE: As a str8 person I think alot of those old ads were ... er.. umm.... provocative. I guess the designers of that stuff wanted to make it pretty enough for women to want to see but just racy enough for the men to enjoy. After all, back then, the men were the decision makers and the bread winner of the house so it had to appeal to them too if the wife wanted the new washer.
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Post# 29469-5/1/2003-00:03 ||| haley.dog (Tulsa, Oklahoma)
SUBJECT: RE: GE LW-11 wall hung refrigerator
MESSAGE: Thanks for the referral.
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Post# 29470-5/1/2003-00:04 ||| haley.dog (Tulsa, Oklahoma)
SUBJECT: RE: GE LW-11 wall hung refrigerator
MESSAGE: Thanks for the tip on the wall hung refrigerator
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Post# 29471-5/1/2003-01:50 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: login (Home Page Frigidaire Pulsating:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Friend's, I thought the same thing, because it isn't Pulasting on my Internet Log-In either, what's going on, did it finally give up and need to get "Repaired" like most other Washer's and Dryer's once in a while?
Take care Guy's and Gal's hope everyone is having a great week. Mine is going to be ending on Saturday, with my being
1-year older. I'm going to be going to some Extended Family Friend's for a Birthday Celebration and a Pizza Dinner.
By the way, {off-site subject era note} that these Friends have the "Frigemore" Matched Washer and Dryer, purcahsed at our local Sears, thank's to my suggestion almost 3-years ago and they really love them.
Just to let you all know {for those who might be curious, I will be 53-years old on Saturday}...I've never been one to want to hide my Age from anyone, I'm proud of my Age and I personally think that it is rediculous to want to hide your Age.
My best to everyone of you, my Club Friend's, Steve
Your Big Huggable Sacto Teddy Bear Friend...
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Post# 29472-5/1/2003-01:56 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: login (Re: Applianceville Pix:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Club Friend's, what's wrong with the Applianceville Pix? That isn't even opening on my Internet Log-In either and when I right-click to open it, it still won't open. What's going on with that too?
Take care everyone and keep Posting's coming in always.
My best to everyone, Steve
Sacto Teddy Bear...
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Post# 29473-5/1/2003-05:55 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Are you into........,
MESSAGE: Turquoise?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2527999985&category=20713
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Post# 29474-5/1/2003-08:04 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Look what I found!
MESSAGE: WOW!
LINK: http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=imperialbob&include=0&since=-1&sort=3&rows=25
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Post# 29475-5/1/2003-08:42 ||| Surge'nSubmerge (Ohio)
SUBJECT: Just wanted to say "hi"
MESSAGE: I'm new to this, althought I've been loggong onto this website almost daily for over a year, now! To say this is amazing is truly an understatement! I also think this is terriffic!
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Post# 29476-5/1/2003-16:32 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: Just wanted to say "hi" (welcome)
MESSAGE: Welcome
This truly is a great group of people.Like you,I spend most of my time on the sidelines,but it is a lift each day to check out the POD,and to keep up with members new finds,and to keep pace with everyones progress on their projects.I married a lady with 3 kids last year,and now dont have time to collect actively-hope to again someday.
Again-Welcome
Tom
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Post# 29477-5/1/2003-16:43 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: Help in pickups
MESSAGE: Hello
I enjoy this site very much,and one of the things I like best about it is the way members help each other out with their restorations.I dont have significant mechanical knowledge but want to contribute something.I live in Northeast Tennessee,and have access to a truck and a little spare time.If I could help anyone in our club with the picking up of a special appliance they have found in my area until they could get here to pick it up,or anything in this vein,I would be glad to.
Tom
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Post# 29478-5/1/2003-18:17 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Just wanted to say "hi" (welcome)
MESSAGE: Welcome to surge and mulls; glad to have both of you with us.
Todd
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Post# 29479-5/1/2003-18:41 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: Fridgidaire 1-18 & Whirlpool Dryer E-bay
MESSAGE: Has anyone checked out the two vintage machines on E-Bay? Item #'s 2320659160 and 2320660468 Like new 1-18 machine in white. And a pink top of the line W.P. dryer with a porthole window,lighted console,and even an ozone bulb.Very nice looking machines!
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Post# 29480-5/1/2003-20:11 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Omaha mini wash in at Greg's (missed this one!)
MESSAGE: We had a fun evening and it was nice getting to know another of our members in person. I've been using the NuSoft all week and love the scent - not to heavy, thank you again Mike! You probably will get a request for a care package ;-)
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Post# 29481-5/1/2003-20:12 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Workless Washdays With Bendix (Saucy!!!)
MESSAGE: and to make the idea of washing in an automatic machine even more appealing is the benefit of being able to wash these items in the machine - automatically - and not in the sink.
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Post# 29482-5/1/2003-20:20 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Help in pickups
MESSAGE: Thanks for the kind offer of help, that's what being in a club is all about! I hope that people will not hesitate to call on those of us with resources to parts, service info, etc. when needed.
Welcome new members, enjoy!
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Post# 29483-5/2/2003-07:14 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: BENDIX DIALAMATIC NOT EXTRACTING VIGOROUSLY
MESSAGE: Something's gone awry with my Bendix. He fails to extract fast enough and doesn't completely dry the clothes....for some reason the pump isn't moving the water out very fast...this is my Rubber tub Bendix...Fortunately the pump isn't to hard to deal with....I feel another string of photos may be on the way soon...so we can all see what's wrong....any guesses? I'm hoping the inside of the rubber (sheath inside the pump)hasn't worn the ribs off...is that possible? Or is it possible to have too much grease on a helical spring to make it slip like a clutch.. Hopefully this won't retire the old fella and render him no longer useable....shudder at the thought.
B
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Post# 29484-5/2/2003-07:31 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: Fridgidaire 1-18 & Whirlpool Dryer E-bay (pretty in pink)
MESSAGE: hey rickr
i saw the machines on ebay very nice
wish i had the room for that wonderful dryer
can you imagine a match set now that would be cool
hope someone who loves it gets it
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Post# 29485-5/2/2003-07:52 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: BENDIX DIALAMATIC NOT EXTRACTING VIGOROUSLY
MESSAGE: OH oh. Keep him alive, that's a rare machine.
My lil' lady's having spring problems. One of her springs has sprung.
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Post# 29486-5/2/2003-08:18 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: BENDIX DIALAMATIC NOT EXTRACTING VIGOROUSLY (SPRUNG SPRING - swaying like a drunk old hag...)
MESSAGE: Oh dear. Time for you to learn how to lift up the skirt on the ol' compact belt drive...and the fun begins. Usually that can be fixed - but sometimes it's a rust thing and when you look you can decide if you wanna fix it or not based on condition...you can always change out the entire baseplate if rust is the problem - it's not that big a deal to do if you really like the machine. There are several hoses & wires inside to disconnect and un fasten on your way..
B
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Post# 29487-5/2/2003-12:16 ||| imperialbob (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: more rubber failure
MESSAGE: Damitol. Inside the pump, the sheath part busted, sure enough...anyone got a spare rubber?
B
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Post# 29488-5/2/2003-14:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: more rubber failure
MESSAGE: Oh no!! Call Larry at Modern Parts House to see if he has any or, there was an ad in the classified section for vintage parts but I've heard it's difficult to get ahold of anyone or get an answer back if they have what you need - best of luck!
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Post# 29489-5/2/2003-21:45 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: parade rest
MESSAGE: So..I have to say Bendix is at Parade rest for a while...sitting there in a coma, more or less.... it's true what they say - eventually it'll break and you won't be able to get parts for it.....with patience, however, I have every confidence another rubber pump sheath will become available for use.
photos are too disturbing to see at this time..
peace.
B
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Post# 29490-5/2/2003-22:24 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: A BEAR (Y) HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
MESSAGE: MY DEAR TEDDY BEAR. ON THIS, THE EVE OF YOUR NATIVITY, I WISH YOU A MOST WONDERFUL AND JOYUS CELEBRATION OF YOUR OF YOUR BIRTH! MAY ALL OF YOUR CLASSIC APPLIANCE DREAMS COME TRUE!!!KELVINATOR DREAMS AND FRIGIDAIRE WISHES!!! Mark
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Post# 29491-5/2/2003-23:06 ||| mrcoffee (Twin Cities)
SUBJECT: RE: more rubber failure (Epoxy)
MESSAGE: I had a part that was broken in two on my GE Filter-Flo when I was fixing it. There is an expoxy that I used, called J-B Weld. It turns out that the epoxy is stronger then the part its self after drying.
It may be wise to see if you can get a strong epoxy like I described for that part, and then use that to repair it if possible. Is there any way you could email me pictures of the part? Or, you could write me, and send the part to me so that I may be able to fix it. Good luck.
MrCoffee
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Post# 29492-5/3/2003-00:12 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: A BEAR (Y) HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!
MESSAGE: Yay! Birthday Best Wishes!!
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Post# 29493-5/3/2003-03:38 ||| mrcoffee (Twin Cities)
SUBJECT: Self-cleaning oven
MESSAGE: Does anybody here know how long one should run the cycle for a self-cleaning oven? I have a 1986 Whirlpool. Also, does anybody know what temperature such an oven cleans at? Any information would help.
MrCoffee
(It's kind of old, but it's good. I swear I'm gonna buy that thing from the current landlord)
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Post# 29494-5/3/2003-07:53 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Self-cleaning oven (cycle time length)
MESSAGE: 2 to 3 hours is pretty standard, depending on the soil. Be sure to remove anything you can by hand to minimize smoking during the clean cycle.
I don't think I'd leave the house with the self cleaning oven on...but then again....
P.
B
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Post# 29495-5/3/2003-08:23 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Self-cleaning oven ((temperature))
MESSAGE: Approximately 900 degrees Fahrenheit
LINK: http://www.howstuffworks.com/question559.htm
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Post# 29496-5/3/2003-08:56 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: It's a COAST-in!
MESSAGE: The washer says "Grind-click-clunk"
The coaster says "click-click-click-click-click"
The people go "EEEEEeeeeeeee!!!!!!"
Welcome to Six Flags...
I'm there!
Please hold on to the bar.
LINK: http://www.sixflagsneworleans.com
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Post# 29497-5/3/2003-09:23 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: 1/18 paint job, colors anyone?
MESSAGE: My new 1/18 needs a new paint job. I am not going to paint it its current color of white. I am thinking about painting it blue. Those of you who went to the 2002 convention and went to the warehouse, there was a beautiful blue Whirlpool washer there, did anyone see it? Where would I find that beautiful color? Can anyone help me? Do you know what it is called?
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Post# 29498-5/3/2003-09:29 ||| Surge'nSubmerge (Ohio)
SUBJECT: The cybermuseum
MESSAGE: I hate "crashing" this conversation, but since I'm new to this, may I ask a question...I've noticed that the cyber museum has a lot of "vacancies," and I was wondering...I also see that some of the members' own pages have pix and videos of any given make and model of washer/dryer, etc. Would those ever be considered for "enshrinement?"
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Post# 29499-5/3/2003-10:27 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: The cybermuseum
MESSAGE: Oh,I agree.So many members in this club have outstanding examples to share. It would be great if they could be added to the museum.
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Post# 29500-5/3/2003-13:11 ||| Ironrite (Las Vegas NV)
SUBJECT: RE: Self-cleaning oven (Funny you should ask!)
MESSAGE: I have a 1995/96 GE Electric and I'm cleaning my oven as we speak. Basically two time settings, depending on how bad it is, 3 or 4 hours. As mine was filthy, I scraped the excess grease out of the bottom. There was an "episode" with spilling a tray of chicken grease. Excess grease can and has caught fire before, nothing serious. Then I just set it for 4 hours. It has stunk up the house. I have all the doors and windows open and my two dogs are outside. Hope this helps!
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Post# 29501-5/3/2003-14:31 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: Self-cleaning oven (Funny you should ask!)
MESSAGE: They do stink-a powerful exhaust hood is a must!My Frigidaire Gallery does a great job though-although I hate to think of the electricity cost!
Tom
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Post# 29502-5/3/2003-18:45 ||| mrcoffee (Twin Cities)
SUBJECT: RE: Self-cleaning oven (Funny you should ask!)
MESSAGE: Well, I followed the suggestion. And it did give off a pretty good frying oil-like odor. But after a while, that smell turned a bit more metallic, and then changed into a "sort of new car" like smell. After a while, it all cleared up.
Needless to say, it's clean now. And I thank ya'll for the help too. I am gonna buy me that oven from the current landlord if it's possible. I wonder how I could convince him that the next tennants don't want it? Heh heh heh
MrCoffee
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Post# 29503-5/3/2003-21:41 ||| drmitch (West Tennessee)
SUBJECT: RE: Self-cleaning oven (Funny you should ask!)
MESSAGE: Say whats with all this self cleaning! Would`nt you guys rather get in there and do it your self? Just kidding! And pardon me Mr Coffee but did you use the word Ya`ll? Do you have some southern links? You guys have a nice day, See Ya`ll!
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Post# 29504-5/4/2003-00:13 ||| mrcoffee (Twin Cities)
SUBJECT: RE: Self-cleaning oven (Funny you should ask!)
MESSAGE: I gotta admit, the self cleaning feature does tend to take the "fun" out of oven cleaning. And, I suppose it has contributed to the decline of oven cleaners on the grocery shelves. Oh, but I sure don't miss the stuff! I'll save the grease for my next washing machine project, thanks a bunch....
As for the "ya'll". Our family does have some Southern heritage. Our roots pretty much start in the lower part of Missouri. Time for me to go and play with my toys fellas...
MrCoffee
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Post# 29505-5/4/2003-07:27 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: My 1/18 model number is...
MESSAGE: Well, I finally found the model number! The model number is, WIG. Can anyone help me with what year the machine was made?
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Post# 29506-5/4/2003-07:47 ||| Steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: CASE May 2003
MESSAGE: For all who could not be there, sorry we missed you.
For all those present, WHAT A GREAT DAY!
Roll Call:
Steve [steve1-18], Rhinnie {Grovetown}
Brent[brent-aucoin], George [geodon],
Jeff, Les [lesto], Peter [peterh770], {Atlanta Metro}
and all the way from Alabama,
Chris [gadgetmad]
All the members gathered at George’s house. We had a surprise brought in by Jeff. By the way after you look at the pictures you’ll see what the surprise is.
First, we disconnected and moved George’s current set from the laundry room to the garage.
Next, we when down to the basement and moved the ‘classic set’ into the middle of the room to work on it.
By this time it was after 2, so we took a lunch break.
The washer was lubed; all 3 belts replaced, new door boot, lamp, and water supply hoses, too.
The dryer was disassembled vacuumed and reassembled. The power cord was replaced, and new light bulb. We had a new belt, but decided to wait and see. After running it, the old belt was slipping, so the dryer belt was replaced, too.
The dryer had some lint buildup, but like Brent remarked, the insides on the washer looked like someone had just wiped it down. It was remarkable clean!
Once all the maintenance was completed, both appliances were moved to their new home and connected. We washed several loads of clothes, and everybody got to sit in front of the window and watch. All were amazed how quiet the washer was once it was all reassembled. The dryer was very quiet as well.
Sorry, there weren’t any pictures taken of the restoration / maintenance as my battery died and had to be recharged.
Well, all good things must end. We left about 9 pm for home.
Future plans were discussed for a fall wash-in weekend extravaganza in Grovetown so stay tuned!
Steve1-18
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/svb14_2003/vwp?.dir=/CASE+May+2003&.dnm=Artist+rendition.jpg&.src=ph
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Post# 29507-5/4/2003-08:32 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: My 1/18 model number is... (WIG)
MESSAGE: That's a hairy washer.
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Post# 29508-5/4/2003-09:48 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: RE: Look what I found!
MESSAGE: Jason,
Thanks for the trip down memory lane! This is identical to the stove my grandmother had out in Phoenix, Az. I was 11 when we moved out there; within months I was baking cakes and pizza in that oven. The pushbutton burner controls lighted up in different colors when depressed(no, one of the colors was NOT blue-ha!) I hope it went to a good home.
Duane
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Post# 29509-5/4/2003-13:25 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003 (Avocado Kenmore)
MESSAGE: HEY that Avocado Kenmore is awesome! It needs lots of love but it will be a great machine one day.
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Post# 29510-5/4/2003-14:28 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003 (May 2003)
MESSAGE: Steve - I am glad you guys had a Great time - I wish I was able to be their. I love the westy pair. My Best to Rhinnie.
Hope to chat soon.
Peter
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Post# 29511-5/4/2003-14:33 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003 (It Was Great!)
MESSAGE: A big thanks to Steve for posting the pictures! Thanks for Steve and Peter for all of the knowledge that was shared!
We really had a great time! George is the Perfect Host!
It was so nice to spend time with these guys! We have such a great group of people in this club! I wish that we all lived closer, and could get together more often!
I bet George spent the day home washing everything in the house! I know that I would have with this new set!
Brent
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Post# 29512-5/4/2003-16:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003
MESSAGE: Thank you Steve for the pictures, it's a bit like being there again. I bet George loves this set better than his previous, it's a wonderful one. Wonderful picture of the group too, I guess Peter was hiding behind the camera?
Louis
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Post# 29513-5/4/2003-20:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003
MESSAGE: So glad you all had such a wonderful day, and thanks for the pictures! The avacado Sears washer is wonderful!! That is one of my favorite models.
I had a nice visit with Greg and Skyler over this past weekend as well. We did lots of shopping and lots of washing, and Greg and I had dinner in a fun part of town. After that, some of Greg's friends, a couple of whom I've met before, came over last night with laundry and we had a big, wonderful wash-in and they brought us some nice cookies as treats.
I have just a couple of pictures of me with another fine Kenmore product, which I'll post later.
We each found a few treasures in our travels; I'll let Greg tell about his, and I found a vacuum, and a toaster I've been wanting. Greg also gave me a wonderful RCA Whirlpool canister cleaner he'd found sometime back. What fun!
Thanks Greg and Skyler for a great visit!
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Post# 29514-5/4/2003-20:50 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: My 1/18 model number is... (1979)
MESSAGE: Jaime,
I have a "WIG" model too. I was told that it was a 1979. Is the safety switch in the middle along the back ?? Good luck with it........
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Post# 29515-5/4/2003-21:11 ||| MiniJim (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003
MESSAGE: Love the hidden panel on the Sears washer. It looks like y'all had fun. My parents are still using their Westinghouse stack Washer and Dryer from the 70's. I need you guys to come over to my house and help me get the old Bendix working. It's looks like its in good condition. Still have the information when it was purchased from Richs Department Store from the original owner.
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Post# 29516-5/4/2003-22:15 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003 (A Big Thank-you!!)
MESSAGE: Thanks so much Steve for sharing the great pictures with all of us. It sounded like you all had a great day. Sure would have loved to been there. That Westinghouse set looks very much like mine, maybe a year or so older. I got mine in 1985 and they are still going strong. Thanks again for sharing.
Terry
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Post# 29517-5/4/2003-22:59 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003
MESSAGE: Thanks for noticing, Louis. I think that during the time I was there, the camera was being recharged. Good thing I wasn't in the pics: I was looking and feeling a bit rough from doing about 260 lbs of drop-off laundry at the 'mat this weekend. And I want to buy another 'mat? Someone prepare me a room at a local bobby hatch!
I was so good to visit with this crowd of friends for a few hours!!! George has such a fantastic house and is a wonderful host.
-ph
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Post# 29518-5/4/2003-23:01 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003
MESSAGE: Jim,
Someday I'll get to restoring my 2 machines, then I can be a local expert and help you out! Do you have a '47 Standard or Deluxe?
-ph
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Post# 29519-5/4/2003-23:12 ||| MiniJim (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003
MESSAGE: Don't know too much about the machine. I think it is a standard. Have to find the manual. No extra knobs & such.
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Post# 29520-5/4/2003-23:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: My 1/18 model number is... (WIG)
MESSAGE: Jason, sounds like a prototype model that was going to be brought to market, well ahead of its time, before WCI bought out the GM appliance division. It was to be the FrigiBear washer featuring fuzzy logic control.
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Post# 29521-5/4/2003-23:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Greg's 1964 2-speed Sears washer
MESSAGE: As promised, here is a picture of me using this machine, which he has acquired since last I visited.
LINK: http://pic4.picturetrail.com:80/VOL53/814581/1466424/24708558.jpg
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Post# 29522-5/5/2003-04:53 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Tumble, tumble....
MESSAGE: Only if this was close to New York. :-((
Dump the washer, save the dryer!!!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2321379261&category=20714
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Post# 29523-5/5/2003-05:27 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Greg's 1964 2-speed Sears washer
MESSAGE: Scott,
Is that a ruler that is going across the top of that nice Kenmore wringer with that pregnant Roto-Swirl agitator?
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Post# 29524-5/5/2003-05:31 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003
MESSAGE: Sound like so much fun!
Y'all must have had a great time!
Was the washer noisy before it was dismantle and cleaned?
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Post# 29525-5/5/2003-05:35 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: General Electric Parts
MESSAGE: Can someone tell me what is going on with GE website that if we were to buy a inner tub or a mini-basket for the older model washers that they are no longer available?
What gives?
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Post# 29526-5/5/2003-05:38 ||| fixit (NE Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: My 1/18 model number is... (Re: My 1/18 model number is... )
MESSAGE: The 1st digit of the serial number should tell you the 70's year of manufacture. ie, '8'='78, '9'='79, etc.
Good machines.
God bless,
Dave Harnish
Dave's Repair Service
New Albany, PA
drs@sosbbs.com
570-363-2404
Our Free Monthly Appliance Tips Newsletter:
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Post# 29527-5/5/2003-05:45 ||| fixit (NE Pennsylvania, USA)
SUBJECT: RE: Self-cleaning oven (Funny you should ask!)
MESSAGE: Tom,
You'll be pleasantly surprised at the low electricity cost to clean your oven! When self-clean first became popular, we used to advertise the fact that a self-cleaning costs a whole lot less than a can of oven cleaner. I seem to remember Frigidaire using the 25 cent per cleaning figure, but then that *was* in 1970's dollars!
God bless,
Dave Harnish
Dave's Repair Service
New Albany, PA
drs@sosbbs.com
570-363-2404
Our Free Monthly Appliance Tips Newsletter:
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Post# 29528-5/5/2003-06:02 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: My 1/18 model number is... (WIG)
MESSAGE: And don't forget the small portable model....
The AgiCub.
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Post# 29529-5/5/2003-07:35 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003 (Omaha Visit)
MESSAGE: You are very welcome Scott, and thanks again for coming down, it was a lot of fun to have you visit again and I'm glad you enjoyed using the Kenmore Visi-matic wringer. My laundry is all caught up now!
We did find some neat things over the course of the weekend, in addition to Scott's finds, at an estate sale I found the Meat Tender probe for my 58 Frigidaire range, a beautiful set of racks for my Kitchen Aid dishwasher and a windowed door from a 29" Kitchen Aid dryer.
The estate sale we found the temp probe at was the same house that was used for some scenes in the movie "About Schmidt" and from my experience with the set designer, I knew there was a 58 Frigidaire range exactly like mine in the house. I'm planning on stopping by there again this afternoon to see if they'll sell me the whole stove at a bargain price as it would be nice to have a few parts from it.
My good friends Don, Micheal and Theresa came down Saturday night with laundry in tow as their Asko had jumped out of it's shocks again (will fix that for them this week) so they had a bag of sopping wet towels ready to run in the unimatic. Theresa brought a load of towels to wash in the 57 Frigidaire too and was quite impressed with soft, fluffy towels she pulled out of the steamy Filtrator - "the softest they've ever been!"
We had a nice weekend and even some scary weather yesterday afternoon just to keep things exciting! Have a good week everyone and happy washing!
Greg
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Post# 29530-5/5/2003-07:39 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003
MESSAGE: Looks like you guys had a nice weekend too, what a nice looking set of machines you had to work on.
Keep us posted on the plans for the next one - perhaps a convention?? ;-)
Greg
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Post# 29531-5/5/2003-07:43 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Greg's 1964 2-speed Sears washer
MESSAGE: Hi- That is a pressure release bar over the front of the wringer - for emergency release while using it or to release the pressure when washday is done so a flat spot won't develop on the rolls.
It's a great washer and a fun diversion sometimes from the usual washday fun. It's also a very fast way to get caught up with a lot of laundry when used in combination with an automatic for rinsing and spinning.
Greg
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Post# 29532-5/5/2003-09:31 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Dryer
MESSAGE: It's nice to see that a machine that is well built that last beyond childhood and all the way through adulthood! It looks like it was built to last a lifetime.....
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Post# 29533-5/5/2003-09:33 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Dryer ((GE))
MESSAGE: No doubt about it!
Just its sibling taking a turn to dry a load!
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Post# 29534-5/5/2003-09:40 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Dryer (My Grandmother Had This Set!)
MESSAGE: Your welcome!
It's great to see a machine that is still in use well past 20 years!
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Post# 29535-5/5/2003-09:43 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Dryer
MESSAGE: Bob,
I just love those huge control panels that was bold and classy! I wished that my cousin had room to buy the matching dryer for their washer with the same control panel layout!
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Post# 29536-5/5/2003-09:45 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Hotpoint Dryer
MESSAGE: It was just ok?
But did it lacked a few features that this Hotpoint had?
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Post# 29537-5/5/2003-09:48 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this dryer
MESSAGE: What?
No one bided on that dryer?
Oh my stars......
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Post# 29538-5/5/2003-09:55 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: New Additions
MESSAGE: That oven is too clean!
Can I roast a turkey in it?
:-P
Very nice and good luck to the one who process this unit!
Great photo's Steve!
Thanks
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Post# 29539-5/5/2003-09:58 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Cold Water Washing
MESSAGE: The got some nerve to bring this washer in for repair!
I would have been ashame to let it go to the dump in that condition!
I do not recognize the tub, is it a Whirl-More or a Maytag?
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Post# 29540-5/5/2003-10:02 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Self-cleaning oven (Funny you should ask!)
MESSAGE: Hi Dave,
I did not know that you was a member of this truly dedicated club of classic appliances!
Welcome to the madness!!!
CleanteamofNY
Larry
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Post# 29541-5/5/2003-10:05 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Greg's 1964 2-speed Sears washer
MESSAGE: Well..., It never fails that I learn something new everyday!
Thanks for sharing the light!
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Post# 29542-5/5/2003-14:09 ||| geodon2000 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: the smell of fab was fabulous...
MESSAGE: thanks to all who attended...it was a wonderful day and indeed my pleasure to host...
next time we'll wash in the new house in the "laundry lounge"...
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Post# 29543-5/5/2003-15:47 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Tumble, tumble....
MESSAGE: Is this the Whirlpool dryer model with the light under the control panel? I think it came out at some point in the early 70's...or maybe late 60's.....
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Post# 29544-5/5/2003-16:19 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: POD 5/5
MESSAGE: Has anyone noticed that todays POD is for the GAS Duomatic but the picture shows the electric model???
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Post# 29545-5/5/2003-16:58 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Tumble, tumble....
MESSAGE: I'de take both in a second!
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Post# 29546-5/5/2003-17:02 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Check out this dryer
MESSAGE: I'm surprised too! I forgot about that one though.
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Post# 29547-5/5/2003-17:04 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Cold Water Washing
MESSAGE: Most definitely a whirlmore. The 4 big holes at the bottom give it away to me. (and the hole pattern is not maytagish)
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Post# 29548-5/5/2003-20:43 ||| mrcoffee (Twin Cities)
SUBJECT: RE: General Electric Parts (Not sure what they're up to....)
MESSAGE: But, there is a solution.
There is a place here in Minnesota that accumulates quite a few old mini-baskets for GE washers. I just managed to find one for my machine, and it suds up real good, better then a Frigidaire!
You can sometimes find them in very good shape at an appliance repair shop that recycles old machines. If you are looking for one, I can get one for around $15.00 used. Please specify whether it's a strait, or swirl type agitator. I can get one in blue as well as white. Take care.
MrCoffee
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Post# 29549-5/5/2003-20:59 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In
MESSAGE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In
Tentative dates: Friday, Oct 24 – Sunday, Oct 26.
Location: Grovetown, GA
All Classic Appliance members and their partners are invited to attend.
I’ll need a head count and a few assistants to pull this wash-in off.
Mark your calendars now!
Steve1-18
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Post# 29550-5/5/2003-21:18 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: Tumble, tumble.... (tumble tumble)
MESSAGE: well get the washer to get the good "back in the day" drain hose not those damn white plastic things.
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Post# 29551-5/5/2003-21:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 5/5
MESSAGE: I have the sales brochures for both the gas and electric versions of this machine - the artwork is the same as the POD in both. Did the real machines have different designations on them?
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Post# 29552-5/5/2003-22:07 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In
MESSAGE: Purely out of curiosity, what does C.A.S.E. stand for?
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Post# 29553-5/5/2003-22:12 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In
MESSAGE: BTW, put me down as a tentative yes, and email privately if there are things that can be assisted with that don't require local presence in Georgia, or that need doing during the actual event. :)
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Post# 29554-5/5/2003-23:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In
MESSAGE: Classic Appliances South East!!!
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Post# 29555-5/6/2003-00:00 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In
MESSAGE: Thank you Bob. :-)
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Post# 29556-5/6/2003-07:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (club names)
MESSAGE: C.A.D.S. - Classic Appliances Deep South
Me, Tcox, Alr
or how about
C.A.T.S. - Classic Appliances Texas Section
Appnut, DADOES, etc.
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Post# 29557-5/6/2003-07:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (club names 2)
MESSAGE: And for me and Imperial Bob
W.A.R.P.
Washers, and Record Players (and coasters)
YEAH!
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Post# 29558-5/6/2003-08:02 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: General Electric Parts (Not sure what they're up to....)
MESSAGE: Thanks MrCoffee,
I will get in contact with you soon after I do something with that GE tranny.....
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Post# 29559-5/6/2003-09:00 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In
MESSAGE: I'm looking forward to it.
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Post# 29560-5/6/2003-09:02 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: W.A.R.P.E.D.
MESSAGE: Washers And Record Players Eastern Division....true. Still re-arranging the laundry studio, but I've about got it for now. Managed to squeeze the Sanyo spinner in between & beside Grandpa Kenmore dryer & the Bendix Bolt down washer, which the spinner serves..kinda tight, but efficient use of space. Have my '56 Califone hi-fi playing, and the '55 Kenmores a'runnin' today as well, so you can be sure I'm W.A.R.P.E.D.
I may try the marine grade epoxy repair to the bendix rubber pump sheath later today...
whirled peas, everybody.
B
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Post# 29561-5/6/2003-10:16 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (club names)
MESSAGE: C.A.F.E. - Classic Appliances For Europeans
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Post# 29562-5/6/2003-10:21 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 5/5
MESSAGE: The gas version had another lift up door on the top for access to the dryer lint filter. The electric was a condenser dryer that flushed the lint down the drain. The top of the electric model looked nicer so that is why they used it, plus it meant only one picture for both models.
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Post# 29563-5/6/2003-10:40 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 5/5
MESSAGE: Interesting! Has there ever been a gas fired condenser dryer? I would guess that venting of the combustion would preclude this.
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Post# 29564-5/6/2003-11:30 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (club names)
MESSAGE: How about C.A.N.E. for Classic Appliances North East (or New England if you prefer)???
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Post# 29565-5/6/2003-11:39 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003 (Reply to CleanteamofNY)
MESSAGE: Man, it was amazing how clean both machines were. Youda thunk the dryer in particular would have been filthy dirty with lint, but it had just a light dusting.
The washer, even before the belts were replaced, was as quiet as if it were still new. A little rattle from the worn-out belt when the spin solenoid would kick in, but that was about it.
And, in case nobody knew...these babies had sat up without being used for 8 YEARS!!! Amazing they were in such good shape.
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Post# 29566-5/6/2003-11:48 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003 (Reply to CleanteamofNY)
MESSAGE: Wow, that is simply awesome!
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Post# 29567-5/6/2003-12:01 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Help!
MESSAGE: A friend of mine has a portable washer similar to Kenmore800's and the unit no longer spin in any cycle....
I've taken the machine apart and found that the lid switch is working fine and the wig-wag engages to go into the spin cycle, but for some reason, I can hear the belt making contact to the spin pulley but the basket is not going anywhere!?!
Is it possible that the belt is slipping or the brake is not releasing? This is a first for me and I only can think that that the problem lies with the brake assembly!
PLEASE LEND A HAND!
My best friend does not want to get rid of their classic pair that he acquired from the Salvation Army Thrift Store!
I will take photos of the pair the next time I go over to his house and post it!
Larry
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst?.dir=/pictures/Lady+Kenmore+portable&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/kenmore800/lst%3f%26.dir=/pictures/Lady%2bKenmore%2bportable%26.src=ph%26.view=t&.view=t
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Post# 29568-5/6/2003-12:45 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Help! (won't spin...)
MESSAGE: something could be stuck between the tubs, like a t-shirt in a wad, and that'll keep 'em from spinning...
whirled teas.
B
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Post# 29569-5/6/2003-16:01 ||| Rafaes18 (Scotland)
SUBJECT: Help please
MESSAGE: Does anyone know about a similar site but focused in europe?
thanks every one
rafa
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Post# 29570-5/7/2003-00:18 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (club names)
MESSAGE: I hope this doesn't mean we're splintering. I love you guys.
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Post# 29571-5/7/2003-01:31 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: belt drive Kenmores and replacing the belt (adjustable clutch)
MESSAGE: only the older KM had it where you could adjust the stud. Newer machines had to be shimmed to the correct length.
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Post# 29572-5/7/2003-01:46 ||| mrcoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT:
MESSAGE:
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Post# 29573-5/7/2003-01:47 ||| mrcoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Help! (I don't think it's the brakes)
MESSAGE: If it were the brakes, you would smell the belt as the motor pully tries to move while it burns rubber. Or, the motor would hum and there would be no movement at all, which would wear the motor pre-maturely.
It is sounding to me like you have a problem with the clutch, or the transmission. Replace the belt first, or at least feel the one that's in it to make sure it's tight. If so, then you will need to work on the clutch and transmission....
MrCoffee
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Post# 29574-5/7/2003-01:47 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Help please
MESSAGE: Welcome to the club from the Netherlands. Although this site is mostly focused on the American Classics it is possible to post here about European appliances too. However there is a Yahoo group dedicated to the UK classics. The link will take you there.
Louis
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ukclassichomeappliances/?yguid=49342021
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Post# 29575-5/7/2003-01:55 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (Enzyme dishwasher detergents)
MESSAGE: According to latest tests from Consumer Reports, Electra-Sol has eclipsed Cascade as best dishwasher detergent
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Post# 29576-5/7/2003-02:04 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea? (shiny bakelite)
MESSAGE: It would take more than one washing to take shine off bakelite agitators becuase of using dishwasher detergent
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Post# 29577-5/7/2003-02:11 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: An WARNING Message to Applianceville (Africa Scam:)
MESSAGE: That scam goes back to the Dawn of Time, they used to send actual letters. They're almost always from Nigeria. I've worked in Mailrooms a lot in my career and got those letters a lot. This is the first time I've heard it done the way described, they usually sy they have excess money tied up from some government project and need you to help them transfer it, with you getting a "cut".
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Post# 29578-5/7/2003-02:17 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea? (glassware etching)
MESSAGE: Glassware etching, according to the repair manual for Sears dishwashers, is caused not just by the detergent, but by a combination of factors.
very soft water
very hot water
excess detergent
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Post# 29579-5/7/2003-02:23 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Drainage Control (laundry tub)
MESSAGE: Putting in a laundry tub to hold the water so it can slowly drain is a fine idea, so long as it all drains by the time the rinse water drains into it.
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Post# 29580-5/7/2003-02:41 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Bob, Nice and clean 1-18, but, how do you replace that belt??? (Frig 1-18 Belt Replacement)
MESSAGE: How ironic, since th earlier Figidaires made a big deal out of NOT having a belt!
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Post# 29581-5/7/2003-02:59 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (separate motors)
MESSAGE: The separate drain and wash motor concept actually goes way back, it's nothing new. I currently have a 1962 Kenmore with a separte drain motor, used to have a Westinghouse with a separate drain pump, and a friend has an Asko, that uses a separate drain motor.
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Post# 29582-5/7/2003-03:19 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (water heater temperature)
MESSAGE: Due to safety and energy concerns these days, the recommendation seems to be to keep water heaters at 120 degrees. Newer dishwashers either bring the water up to the correct temp before starting (KitchenAid in particular) or stop timer advance even in wash cycle, until 130-140 degree is reached.
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Post# 29583-5/7/2003-03:25 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (cold water washes)
MESSAGE: Very simple, some fabrics can't deal with warm or hot water, they fade and shrink. Then there's the energy issue. You can also use liquid detergent when washing in cold water. Some machines (Kenmore/Whirpool) had settings that automatically adds just enough hot water to bring the temperature of the the "cold" water up into an area where powdered detergents will dissolve in places where the cold water gets really COLD. There are also external valves available that do the same thing (used on inlets to toilet tanks to prevent sweating in cold climates)for machines that don't have that feature.
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Post# 29584-5/7/2003-05:04 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Self-cleaning oven (Self cleaning oven costs)
MESSAGE: The cost of electricity to run a self-cleaning oven is still MUCH less than the cost of conventional chemical oven cleaners.
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Post# 29585-5/7/2003-05:38 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003 (Reply to CleanteamofNY)
MESSAGE: So what was the modern set that got banished to the garage? Are they in operation out there or in storage?
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Post# 29586-5/7/2003-07:01 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: An WARNING Message to Applianceville (Africa Scam:)
MESSAGE: I had some of those and nowadays I get a lot of those emails, even several times a week. I heard some people fell into that and it cost them a lot of money.
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Post# 29587-5/7/2003-14:46 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: CASE May 2003 (Reply to CleanteamofNY)
MESSAGE: A late edition Frigmore front loader, console controls (controls in the back), and a basic Whirlpool-built Kenmore dryer. Geodon would have to tell you the year, but it appears to be the last redesign, or the one before that, between '97 and present day. Wrinkle Guard I, and volume control for the signal. I understand that George's boyfriend is taking them off his hands.
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Post# 29588-5/7/2003-14:47 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Sanitizing a Washer, before using for Laundry: (Enzyme dishwasher detergents)
MESSAGE: What kind o Electra-Sol - the tabs?
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Post# 29589-5/7/2003-14:50 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (club names)
MESSAGE: Cant see that happening. I myself wonder if all these local wash-ins mean we will never have another national (sorry Louis - I meant to say international *grin*) convention again. I would certainly miss seeing all the old faces, and meeting the new members in person.
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Post# 29590-5/7/2003-15:51 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (club names)
MESSAGE: I can't imagine that would be the case, but on the other hand with these regional meetings, if everyone is generally invited, that might give everyone more opportunities if certain dates work/don't work for them, etc.
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Post# 29591-5/7/2003-17:00 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: RE: An WARNING Message to Applianceville (Africa Scam:)
MESSAGE: I sold a vintage stove for a friend on another site and had a lot of those offers as well. I just figured it was a scam. The cost of such a transaction, plus the shipping difficulties, plus the electrical currency differences, just didn't make it plausible. Also, the way the emails were worded showed that these people had no idea what I was selling, or at least not the knowledge and interest in the item that I would expect.
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Post# 29592-5/7/2003-18:38 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (C.A.W.W.)
MESSAGE: I wonder.
Is there going to be a big convention this year? If so, WHERE?
Classic Appliances World Wide
C.A.D.S - Classic Appliances Deep South
W.A.R.P.S - Washers And Record Players South
A.C.E. (a real club) American Coaster Enthusiasts
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Post# 29593-5/7/2003-21:43 ||| Appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: POD 5/7/03 Westy front loaders
MESSAGE: Wtih "Extra Action" tumbling, with heavier fabrics, I'm assuming rpms got up to 62 rpms and with the lighter weight fabrics it was 52 rpms. Was this a constant? Did all westy frontloaders, including slant fronts, have this, or was this a result of the "potato" pulley
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Post# 29594-5/7/2003-23:00 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (cold water washes)
MESSAGE: I don't really want to get far into this again. I never wash in cold water and our clothes look just fine. We have a ATC kenmore and use ATC warm on it. The ATC cold works okay too. (but we only use it for really delicate stuff, we use ATC warm for most everything.) Plus, our hot water is cheap (Nat. gas is rather cheap where we live.)
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Post# 29595-5/8/2003-00:06 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: POD TALLER TUMBER,
MESSAGE: hmmm looks like we are seeing that design come around again if only westinghouse could of held on a few more years. we had a spacemate set when i was a kid. It was my favorite. must of been a theme though, we had reg stacked space mates, but this tall tumbler with the drawer i guess was the mate to the higher dryer, it also had the drawer in the early 70's but i had not seen the washer until this post. very interesting.
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Post# 29596-5/8/2003-01:21 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (C.A.W.W.)
MESSAGE: Make that A.C.M.E. - American Coaster Mega Enthusiasts
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Post# 29597-5/8/2003-01:25 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (Convention)
MESSAGE: I wonder too. Although I'm not sure yet if I could come it would be great to have another convention this year. Or are we too spoilt by having had two in a row?
Louis
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Post# 29598-5/8/2003-01:48 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (Convention)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty, we are most hopeful that the autumn meeting the Georgian Princesses have in the works, and which they have invited everyone to participate regardless of location, will be well attended from all contingents.
QEOM.
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Post# 29599-5/8/2003-02:30 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (Convention)
MESSAGE: Your Majesty,
We take your hint and will consider visiting....
QLOTOC
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Post# 29600-5/8/2003-05:38 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: VALUE OF VINTAGE - NOT GREAT!
MESSAGE: Fellas. WASSUP with selling vintage stuff? NEITHER machine I had listed at ebay sold. I hate to have to call the scrapper , but I no longer wish to own these machines. Just let this be a lesson to you that old machines are not nescessarily worth the time & money we put into them. Certainly not worth the time.
B
considering a more lucritive hobby
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Post# 29601-5/8/2003-06:27 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (ACME)
MESSAGE: Actually ACE is the name of the coaster club that I'm in. There's also a ECC (European Coaster Club) for you guys across the pond.
LINK: http://www.aceonline.org
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Post# 29602-5/8/2003-08:09 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: VALUE OF VINTAGE - NOT GREAT!
MESSAGE: Hi Bob.
I guess collecting old appliances is an interest, not an investment.
It would be nice if we could expect to get back what we put into things, but it often doesn't work out that way. There is even less of a market here in Aus than in the US due to our smaller population, the fact that we tend to keep appliances much longer means that even quite old appliances are still not rare enough to have special value, and the fact that I live in a somewhat isolated area.
Just two days ago I dropped in to a charity shop near my parents house, they had two old Whirlpools from the seventies. They are likely to get sold as used machines with a warranty, not as "collectors items." I have a garge full of interesting (to me) washing machines including some old stuff, and the lot of them wouldn't add up to a hundred dollars worth. Several of them need repair and cleaning up, which I don't have time to do. So it can get a bit depressing at times, having a hobby that few other people appreciate, several think is downright weird, and will probably always be a financial drain. HOWEVER... we have each other to talk to, to share our interest and cheer each other up. If you can't find a buyer, then see if any other enthusiast will take it off your hands for nothing. Or find out if anyone in your neighbourhood actually needs a washer. At least it won't go to waste. A new home, even not a very good one, is better than sending it to the crusher.
Best Wishes
Chris.
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Post# 29603-5/8/2003-09:13 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: VALUE OF VINTAGE - NOT GREAT!
MESSAGE: Hey Bob,
Sorry to hear that. But wasn't there at least one bid on each item? It might be below your reserve, but it's better than sending them to the scrapper.
BTW, I thought a more lucritive hobby was called work... LOL!
Louis
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Post# 29604-5/8/2003-09:30 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: no scrapper
MESSAGE: Never read anything I post before 10:00 am my time. They won't get scrapped. Don't worry.. sad they didn't sell though.
peas.
B
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Post# 29605-5/8/2003-10:06 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (cold water washes)
MESSAGE: I'm with you, Kurt. Cold water washes are not for me unless it's a knit sweater. Most detergents don't dissolve well in cold water and I'm not a fan of liquids (except fabric softneners, single malt scotch & martinis). GE didn't offer a cold water wash on their machines until 57 and Kenmore I believe didn't either until the first "Lady" that same year.
I remember Cold Power detergent in the late 60's and early 70's. It had a nice smell but eventually went by the wayside as did Rain Barrel wash cycle fabric softener. Did you have these two ghastly products in Canada? Anyone in the club have an old box of Cold Power sitting on their shelf?
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Post# 29606-5/8/2003-10:45 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: no scrapper
MESSAGE: That's too bad Bob. This 1-18 went fot $320 on ebay last month. Maybe you should try and relist it, this time for 10-days.
I just went through the same thing selling my 1980 Camaro, sold the second time around.
-Alex
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2316477828&category=20714&rd=1
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Post# 29607-5/8/2003-11:08 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Last solid tub SQ on ebay
MESSAGE: One of the last, non-solenoid, reversing motor, solid tub Speed Queens...
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2321857860&category=20714
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Post# 29608-5/8/2003-11:29 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (Convention)
MESSAGE: Wonderful! :-)
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Post# 29609-5/8/2003-11:37 ||| SarahW (Richmond VA)
SUBJECT: RE: no scrapper
MESSAGE: ImperialBob - Which machines were you auctioning?
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Post# 29610-5/8/2003-13:48 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (cold water washes)
MESSAGE: I don't have any Cold Power on the shelf. Interestingly though, I have seen it in recent years on the grocery store shelves in Puerto Rico. I do remember the smell very well and the commercials with the big wave. Box looks very similar and I got a kick out of seeing it there. I never thought to look on the box to see where it was manufactured. I think Lever has an operation on the island and it must be a favorite there with the many folks who heat their water with solar heaters. Next trip, I'll have to pick up some.
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Post# 29611-5/8/2003-14:08 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (cold water washes)
MESSAGE: Sorry. That would be Colgate-Palmolive whom I believe made Cold Power.
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Post# 29612-5/8/2003-14:30 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Cold Power )
MESSAGE: I have found several boxes of Cold Power detergent at sales, even a few samples of the liquid version. I've played with it some, but only in the garage where I have cold water to test machines with - I don't normally wash in cold at all. I also have a bottle of Rain Barrel softener, again, just for fun as it's a horrible product as well.
Here's a pic of both on the shelf:
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Collection+Photos&.dnm=South+Room+1.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 29613-5/8/2003-14:32 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: no scrapper
MESSAGE: That's not a 1-18, which is why it went for what it did.
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Post# 29614-5/8/2003-14:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: no scrapper
MESSAGE: This ebay washer was a late 60's rollermatic, solid tub - a little more rare than a 1-18, but Bob's washer is in such nice condition for any vintage machine. I'm sure it will find it's way to a good home.
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Post# 29615-5/8/2003-14:42 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Last solid tub SQ on ebay
MESSAGE: That's a cool find for someone in the Northwest to start a Speed Queen collection... Sounds like it needs a new water valve and agitator, both of which could be easily found.
I saw this auction for some commercial Speed Queen washers - a few of the old solid-tub design, it would be fun to have one of the spin pulleys from them as they were smaller on the commercial machines for a faster spin.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2321827984&category=20715
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Post# 29616-5/8/2003-15:47 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: no scrapper
MESSAGE: Whoops, my mistake. Well, I'd buy it if I had the room. I know Bob's stuff is cherry!
-Alex
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Post# 29617-5/8/2003-16:31 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: VALUE OF VINTAGE - NOT GREAT!
MESSAGE: Wait a little while, and list them again. eBay is wierd that way. One week something goes for a fortune, next week it goes for dirt.
If I needed a dryer, I'd grab that one in a hurry!
Ken D.
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Post# 29618-5/8/2003-16:36 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (shrinking clothes)
MESSAGE: The main thing that shrinks clothes and sweaters is change in temperature. If you wash a sweater in warm, rinse it in warm also (may involve pushing the hot button after the first fill).
Ken D.
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Post# 29619-5/8/2003-17:35 ||| mrcoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: VALUE OF VINTAGE - NOT GREAT! (Will provide a GOOD home.)
MESSAGE: Mine! It may be a couple months or so, Bob, but I will gladly set something up for you if you can hang onto it for a bit.
I have been in the market for a 1-18 for a very long time, and would be glad to have one in my posession if the shipping can be done at an affordable rate.
MrCoffee
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Post# 29620-5/8/2003-18:16 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: PINK SALE
MESSAGE: The washer did sell then after all, and so all that's left to go right now is the '63 RCA Whirlpool Imperial dryer, electric, in Pink.
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Post# 29621-5/8/2003-19:26 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (cold water washes)
MESSAGE: Actually, Colgate's Canadian equivalent was and is still known as "Arctic Power" (see Colgate's website and select Canada)- kind of a cute logo with a "Chilly Willy" type penguin on the box... and if I am not mistaken, Cold Power is available in Australia - at least it was up until a few years ago.
Strangely enough, up until recently Cold Power in the US was available only in the state of North Carolina and Punch was available in select Northeast stores. But like all neglected brands - these eventually became "budget priced" powders - like the "Classic Ajax" -so they really were not great performers and ultimately were discontinued....
I myself have both an old giant and king size box of Cold Power. I always liked the graphics, and it did smell nice but truth to tell it was always an abysmal product - and if it worked poorly in cold water, it was for some reason even worse in warm or hot water. And cold water washing never caught on in our house either. My mother tried it a few times, but was mortified when clothes emerged with undissolved white powder all over them. Of course our cold water here in the northeast is like ice anyway - but common sense prevailed and she went happily back to hot and warm water washing......
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Post# 29622-5/8/2003-19:29 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: VALUE OF VINTAGE - NOT GREAT! (Will provide a GOOD home.)
MESSAGE: I would do the same Bob - but my hands and pocketbook are tied until I can find a job with a real salary.... I know how well taken care of your machines are.....
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Post# 29623-5/8/2003-20:27 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (cold water washes)
MESSAGE: Hi Angus
Yes, Cold Power is still sold in Aus, is several flavours and in liquid or powder, the powder in regular or concentrate, and in standard or front loader. It is a very big seller.
Of course when you go to "colgate.com.au" you actually go to the Colgate USA website which has links to other countries but not one for Australia. So there is no website for Aussie customers to find out about what is on their shelves! Gee, thanks Colgate-Palmolive! No wonder I never use any of their products.
Here is a link to Kmart catalogue this week, which has some bulk packs of Cold Power on special.
(Kmart in Aus is no longer affiliated with Kmart in USA, by the way.)
Chris.
LINK: http://www.kmart.com.au/catalogue/NAVM.HTM?p1_no=4265&ct=9
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Post# 29624-5/8/2003-21:08 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: CONVENTION TICKETS, OR NOT?
MESSAGE: My mom was wondering if we should buy our plane tickets for the convention. If yes, where is the Convention going to be? If no, WWWWWWWHHHHHHHHHHHHHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? THERE MUST BE A CONVENTION THIS YEAR! The convention is the only time I ever get to see any of you!
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Post# 29625-5/8/2003-21:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (Convention)
MESSAGE: Well, let's hope & pray that my work contengencies don't fall in the way of plans for me. And by the way, if the host is the Georgia princess, who's the Georgia Peach??? (I've got a few nominations in mind)
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Post# 29626-5/8/2003-22:38 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (cold water washes)
MESSAGE: There was just a pic of the day on here for the rain barrel fabric softener. I have absolutely no idea if we had them in Canada. (I wasn't around.) but we probably had something like it. (we have tide and cheer and all the other detergents, so I imagine we had rain barrel and cold power back then too.) We use liquid currently, I don't mind it. Powder does clean better but liquid works fine for what we need it for. We might go back to powder, with powder, the fresh smell lasts in the clothes for some reason. (like the lemon sent in tide.) With liquid, the smell gets "dryed" out of the clothes by the time the dryer is finished with them.
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Post# 29627-5/8/2003-22:47 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (cold water washes)
MESSAGE: Your cold water is ice? LOL you should feel our water in the dead of winter. (it is SO cold, it is like putting your hand in snow.) That is why the ATC function is good. (in the winter, the regular warm setting doesn't cut it, the water is more like normal cold. And then the cold setting is like ice. With ATC, warm washes are actually warm, not cold. And the rare cold washes are cool, not ice cold.)
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Post# 29628-5/8/2003-22:53 ||| drmitch (West Tennessee)
SUBJECT: Take a look at these cuties!
MESSAGE: I thought one of you guys would like these!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3223063486&category=84
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Post# 29629-5/9/2003-03:00 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: VALUE OF VINTAGE - NOT GREAT!
MESSAGE: I thought we were here for love and not money.
I mean its taken most of us this long to find other appliance lovers.
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Post# 29630-5/9/2003-06:29 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: LOVE OR MONEY (LOVE OF MONEY)
MESSAGE: I agree- it's about the love. LOVE FOR SALE! I love my machines and no one will disagree there, but I loves me some money honey too. Now that the washer did sell, I feels so much more love in my heart, and I think it's because of the money. Weird isn't it. But I know the next guy's gonna Love the machine too.
Peace, Love & Money!
B
trying to memorize the sousaphone line to Washington Post
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Post# 29631-5/9/2003-08:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (Wash-In vs. Convention)
MESSAGE: Hold up there a minute, boys... In the Fall, there will be a wash-in here in Georgia, not a convention. Y'all are welcome to come visit, but it will not be anything at all like Minneapolis 2001 or DC 2002. A wash-in is a day or afternoon of light washing or machine repair along with lunch or dinner. Convention is a weekend long (or longer) planned event. I know that neither my house nor my machines will be in any kind of state for a visit. I'll leave it to Steve 1-18 to clarify the Fall plans, but please don't expect anything on the scale of a full fledged, knock down, drag out convention!
-ph
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Post# 29632-5/9/2003-09:52 ||| HQOTS (Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: VALUE OF VINTAGE - NOT GREAT!
MESSAGE: And that is the reason when I sell something it's only for what I have in it, if the bid goes over all the better. Unless of course I'm selling it thru the business and put a warranty on it. But that's different.
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Post# 29633-5/9/2003-11:10 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (Wash-In vs. Convention)
MESSAGE: Well, I'm just wondering if there will be a full fledged convention this year aside from the local wash-ins. Looks like we're too split up to do that anymore, which kinda sucks because last year was fun.
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Post# 29634-5/9/2003-12:30 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (Wash-In vs. Convention)
MESSAGE: Far from it, Jason! I think we are a pretty cohesive bunch. It's just that it takes so much to do a convention that the guys who have done one should get a break, and the rest of us need to be confident enough in our collections and home towns that we can host a large group of people and keep everyone entertained. There are a number of people who could do a convention, but they need to be comfortable doing it. If no one is comforatble, then we have our close friend and "family" to enjoy!
-ph
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Post# 29635-5/9/2003-12:37 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (Wash-In vs. Convention)
MESSAGE: There may not be an all-out convention event this calendar year, but I would be willing to host a convention at some point, possibly in the spring of '04 and I know others have said they would consider hosting as well. An event of that size takes a considerable amount of planning, work and of course, money to host that large of group for even just a few days. Never have I seen our past hosts so tired than after the previous two conventions.
We are all very grateful for the graciousness of our past hosts, but must remember that an annual convention is one of the fun perks of our club and not mandated by a charter. There will certainly be more conventions, and it will be even more fun to see everyone again when we do, even if the timing isn't annual.
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Post# 29636-5/9/2003-14:44 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Last solid tub SQ on ebay
MESSAGE: Sorry boys but this model is not a solid tub Speed Queen. Mark
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Post# 29637-5/9/2003-15:52 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (Wash-In vs. Convention)
MESSAGE: I am aware of the differences between a convention and a wash-in. I'm still considering visiting the fall wash-in, but can't make the decision right now. If I'm coming I'm going to plan other activities for my trip too ofcourse. I just need an excuse to travel...
Louis
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Post# 29638-5/9/2003-15:52 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Last solid tub SQ on ebay
MESSAGE: The commercial ones aren't I don't think, but the domestic one is. That was the last McGraw-Hill produced machine before Raytheon took over with the perforated tub. The perf tub machines had a slightly different control panel...
-ph
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Post# 29639-5/9/2003-16:04 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (Wash-In vs. Convention)
MESSAGE: I couldn't agree more Greg. Organizing a convention is an enormous amount of work that can't be forced on anyone. Although there are always people offering to help it's a very stressful job for the hosts. I'm still very greatful for the hosts of both the 2001 and the 2002 convention, two wonderful experiences. But it doesn't always have to be a big thing. Visiting a wash-in is fun too, doing laundry with friends, I really love it. That's why I'm considering visiting the S.E. Fall Wash-In. And if that isn't possible I might just show up on some Boston wash-in. Or...
BTW, since today there is a bed in the guestroom besides the Nova miniwash. I don't see a European convention coming, but when somebody comes to the Netherlands I'm happy to host for a laundry break.
Now, let's see where was that site with cheap tickets to Om...
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Post# 29640-5/9/2003-21:54 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (Wash-In vs. Convention)
MESSAGE: Amen to that Greg. I was just a minor "helper outer" in the first convention and even I was really wiped for a week after, as much wonderful fun as it was of course while going on! Nearly two years later however, I do at last know where that extra plate I acquired belongs!
I too am very appreciative of all the efforts that went into those two conventions. I don't feel the geographic alliances people have made over time at all harms the integrity of our core group. It's nice to have those inbetween meetings with smaller groups like I might have when visiting Greg for instance. Those smaller scale wash-ins and visits with friends are a fun interlude between the larger conventions, whenever they may fall, and if you have a chance to attend one, you have a chance to see another area, another person's collection, and perhaps get to visit more closely with someone you may have connected with but didn't get to visit with as much as you would have liked at a larger meeting.
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Post# 29641-5/10/2003-00:56 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Last solid tub SQ on ebay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2321827984&category=20715)
MESSAGE: Look closely at the picture showing the Speed Queens in a line(2nd picture) those are the outer tubs mounted on a base frame in the first three washers, while the 4th from the end is the perf-tub model with the ribbed outer tub part of the suspended assembly. I've seen plenty of solid tub machines to spot them a mile away...or 8000!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2321827984&category=20715
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Post# 29642-5/10/2003-01:03 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (Wash-In vs. Convention)
MESSAGE: Well book the flight, you are more than welcome anytime!! Wash-ins are so much fun, always good to share the vintage joy with those who appreciate it! I have two washers in my spare bedroom, but still plenty of room for visitors. I keep threatening to take over Skyler's playroom for washers, and they are creeping in, but I don't think I'll convince him to give the room totally over to laundry!
I too would love to attend the Georgia wash-in this October, but since that week is my son's birthday, I'll have to do some advance planning and fortunately, we have ample time.
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Post# 29643-5/10/2003-01:08 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (Wash-In vs. Convention)
MESSAGE: I need to count my dishes now...
I'd forgotten about that already - and again!!
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Post# 29644-5/10/2003-01:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Last solid tub SQ on ebay
MESSAGE: Here is the brochure for the Ebay domestic washer, first pic shows the models and the next pic shows the features.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Ads+Articles+Brochures&.src=ph&.dnm=Speed+Queen+Washer+1979.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Ads%2bArticles%2bBrochures%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 29645-5/10/2003-03:22 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Help! (won't spin...)
MESSAGE: Well Bob.....,
my white boxers was not tied in a bunch and the whiled teas did not go between the basket, so the only thing that is left is the belt is slipping, the tranny gone bad or the brakes not releasing.....
I will change the belt and check the brakes before ruling the tranny as the problem. Lets see how that goes!
Photos to follow later today!
Thanks,
Larry
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Post# 29646-5/10/2003-07:10 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Help! (won't spin...photos)
MESSAGE: Photos will help a lot Larry.
Did you use your spammer wrench and pull out the wash tub checking for binding clothes? You gotta do it that way...and use a bright light too...also remember that the spammer nut is righty loosey lefty tighty on that machine (BACKWARDS). If nothings binding and you're sure it's shifting, it's just gotta be something wrong with the basket drive assemebly, because the transmission only makes the agitator move, not the basket....
Photos will help alot, though, Mr.
Good luck.
B
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Post# 29647-5/10/2003-08:32 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: POD 5-10-03 / Peterh770?
MESSAGE: Peter,
Is this washer in the POD the washer that matches the Westinghouse Dryer you have? I could not find it on your Yahoo pictures.
I love the style of this washer.
Brent
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Post# 29648-5/10/2003-09:06 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: Another new Toy!
MESSAGE: Came home with another new toy yestersay! This one is a "burp-up" Wards washer made by Norge. Fun machine with a large capacity. I am finding all the machines that I have wanted to play with for a while, I am going to have to start thinking about a sale soon, as the garage has been taken over by machines that will not fit in the basement. Going to do some sheets in the Norge this am, and hang them out to dry! mmmmm....
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Post# 29649-5/10/2003-09:39 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Another new Toy!
MESSAGE: Ohhh boy......,a new toy to play with!
I wanna see, I wanna see!
CLNTEAM
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Post# 29650-5/10/2003-11:09 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Another new Toy!
MESSAGE: This machine is in mint condition, except a couple very minor scratches on the control panel. Ran some sheets and towels through it and it worked great. Came with the lint filter and fab softener dispenser. The lint filter did a fine job. The tub and everything else looks new. I have taken some pics that I will put on here when I get them back, and figure out how to do it!
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Post# 29651-5/10/2003-12:14 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: AEG LavaLux.....Goes For a Spin!!!!
MESSAGE: Had another stroke of luck this week and managed to find an AEG Lavalux twinny, this is a 1960`s model and uses the Turbulator action......which really does keep the clothes moving under the water...
The Spin drum is made of copper and spins at about 1,700revs....all galvanised outer tubs so no rust to break through....the spin motor is a most unusual configeration, nothing like any of our other twinnys....it uses a small horizontal brush motor which has a vertical rubber wheel, this makes contact with a large horizontal drive plate fixed to the spin can.....very "Advanced Enginering" as they state.
The wash motor uses a simple belt pulley system, both are pretty quiet in operation...this machine uses three independant motors for wash, spin & pump....
As with most machines of this vintage the pump hoses have much perished and check the pics of the spin/wash tubs water valve which is operated from the lever at the front...this needs complete overhaul with new hoses and freeing up to make the valve operate....
See what you think
Mike
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/chestermikeuk/lst?.dir=/AEG+LavaLux&.src=ph&.view=
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Post# 29652-5/10/2003-13:34 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: "Off-Post" Important Dishwasher Detergent Info: (Cold Power detergent/Rain Barrel fabric softener)
MESSAGE: I remember Cold Power, it was the first detergent especially formulated for cold water. A family friend used to use it becuase she had a used 50's Norge Timeline washer that was outside of her house. There was no access to hot water, and as a matter of fact, it had only one inlet with no temperature control. Therefore, she just had it hooked up to an outside garden faucet. I never saw a rating from Consumer Reports on Cold Power, but for Rain Barrel, it actually rated very good if used like a conventional softener in the rinse cycle, but didn't do as well as claimed if used in the wash cycle, which was supposed to be its big advantage.
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Post# 29653-5/10/2003-14:00 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Last solid tub SQ on ebay (McGraw-Hill Speed Queen)
MESSAGE: I think you meant McGraw-Edison produced, since McGraw-Hill is a publisher, not a manufacturer.
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Post# 29654-5/10/2003-14:13 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: dishwasher detergent with bleach
MESSAGE: I happened to go to a Smart & Final store here in Los Angeles, and lo and behold, they had huge box of Electra-Sol lemon powder dishwasher detergent that had bleach instead of enzymes in it.
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Post# 29655-5/10/2003-14:32 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: AEG LavaLux.....Goes For a Spin!!!!
MESSAGE: That is so nice to see a twinny with a glass lid for the spinning chamber!
Very nice find Mike!
Larry
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Post# 29656-5/10/2003-15:00 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Another new Toy!
MESSAGE: Very good find, Don - you have built quite a collection of fun appliances in the last year or so, how fun! While you're taking pics, snap some of the other fun things you have too!
Happy washing the Wards way!
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Post# 29657-5/10/2003-15:04 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: AEG LavaLux.....Goes For a Spin!!!!
MESSAGE: Super cool find, Mike - I love this machine! The knobs look like they are from a vintage range and that spin motor and mounting are incredible, I'll be that is a quiet machine! Congrats on this find - you have had such good luck!
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Post# 29658-5/10/2003-17:04 ||| Jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Another new Toy! (I have been snapping all around the house!)
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg, Yes I have been snapping all kinds of things around the house-pictures that is. I only have one picture left on the roll, and I will get these pics put on a cd in which I can download them somewhere for someone to see! The KDS 17 is in that roll as well as the GE, and some other goodies!
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Post# 29659-5/10/2003-17:39 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: AEG LavaLux.....Goes For a Spin!!!! (220v BAM!)
MESSAGE: I guess in the UK you can get away with really high spin speeds because of the 220v mains. It takes lots of current to get a Unimatic goin and even at the convention at John's house, his Uni popped the circuit breaker.
1700? WOW
I wanna see one of those bad-to-the-bone Spin-x with 3500rpm or something like that.
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Post# 29660-5/10/2003-18:58 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: 1/18 Finds A Home
MESSAGE: I just added another washer & dryer to my collection.
I found the most beautiful Frigidaire 1/18 washer and its twin! And in Coppertone Brown! Both in pretty good shape and in perfect working order.
However, I need help. The jetcone agitator is missing its top (the cap) and the lint filter is missing, too. Does anyone know where I might find these items? The second-hand store I bought them from didn't have them in their awesome stash of appliance stuff. (washer model # WO or WC, serial # 70FF 5606)
I'll post pix soon!
Back to the laundry room,
Todd
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Post# 29661-5/10/2003-19:50 ||| Kennyt123 (Plainfield, CT)
SUBJECT: Parts for Frigidaire Custom Imperial Range
MESSAGE: My Frigidaire Custom Imperial Range was moved from Philadelphia PA to Plainfield CT. In the process the movers broke the light cover and lost the power cord. Do you know where I can find parts--it's a great vintage range--even has the rotisserie.
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Post# 29662-5/10/2003-21:20 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Last solid tub SQ on ebay
MESSAGE: When I asked the seller, she said that it had a perforated tub. Kind of confusing! Mark
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Post# 29663-5/10/2003-23:02 ||| Jasonk (Portland)
SUBJECT: wedgewood ovens won't light. no gas.
MESSAGE: Hi all,
I've recently bought a house that has a vintage wedgewood range with four burners, two ovens, and a griddle. Based on research I've done, I'd guess it's from the forties. One oven (the right) has the pilot lit, the other does not. When I try to turn on the gas for either oven, neither one will light -- it appears that no gas is coming out, since applying a match does nothing, and I don't hear the telltale hiss. A few weeks ago, the one on the right (with the pilot on) appeared to work just fine, but I haven't done anything in the mean time that should affect the ovens. The four surface burners and griddle all work just fine. Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks in advance,
Jason
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Post# 29664-5/11/2003-04:41 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: AEG LavaLux.....Goes For a Spin!!!!
MESSAGE: Ah Mike,
I see you even renamed the map after posting the pictures at the twintubemporium. It really is a wonderful find. I hope you get the parts to restore it. I love the picture with the Persil. BTW how are things with the Philips Slimstar?
Louis
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Post# 29665-5/11/2003-04:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: AEG LavaLux.....Goes For a Spin!!!! (220v BAM!)
MESSAGE: Actually Jason, for a small spinner you don't need that much power. I think Mike can tell us how big the spinmotor is, but I guess it must be something like 200 - 250 Watts. Newer spinners like my Miele have a 350 Watts motor to achieve 2800 rpm. Now for a Unimatic with a much bigger drum and that drum filled with water and clothes you need much more power.
Louis
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Post# 29666-5/11/2003-04:50 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: C.A.S.E. Fall Wash-In (Wash-In vs. Convention)
MESSAGE: Thank you - Peter!!
The intention of C.A.S.E. is for the southeastern members to get little doses of each other's washers and have FUN!
I don't think anyone wants to break away fom the Classic Appliance Club.
Nuff Said!
Steve1-18
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Post# 29667-5/11/2003-08:42 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: AEG LavaLux.....Goes For a Spin!!!! (220v BAM!)
MESSAGE: That's right, most twin tub washers have a low power motor for spin. Hoover Twin Tubs use about 250 watts, some Japanese twinnies including Hitachi and Sanyo have only about 100 watt motors. An exception made here in Aus was the Lightburn twin. (1960's) It was sold in many versions with pulsator, paddle or agitator action, and single or twin motor. The most popular one had a single motor, a huge induction motor directly driving the spinner (spinner actually mounted on motor shaft - like a Unimatic) with a 2800 rpm motor. When you dropped the spin lid it took off with a WHOOSH, from still to 2800 rpm in about one second. You could hear it blast the water against the sides of the outer drum.
It had a pulley on the shaft to drive the paddle gearbox, and a secondary belt from there to the pump. The only controls were a on/off switch, and a lever to open the hose to the pump. The wash action was a big chrome arm turning a plastic paddle back and forth, like a windscreen wiper. It was a very strong action.
The spin can spun inside a galvanised sheetmetal outer drum which had no seal. The shaft of the motor stuck up through the floor of the outer spin drum, there was a raised lip around where the shaft stuck through about 2 inches high. The design depended on the pump extracting water from the outer drum faster than it was spun out of the spin can. If the pump was blocked or you put too much water in when spin-rinsing, it could overflow over the lip and on to the motor! Despite this apparently stupid design these were very highly regarded machines, ultra reliable and a Rolls-Royce of the Aussie twin tub market. I don't have one though I had one some years ago, and repaired another for an old Scottish lady who swore it was the best washer ever made. (The outer spin drum on hers rusted out.)
Chris.
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Post# 29668-5/11/2003-10:17 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: Washing machine collection, a head start for me!
MESSAGE: At My moms house there is a room across from the laundryroom that has a sink and is big and empty! My mom is seriousely considering giving it to me so that I can get a head start on washer and dryer collecting! She will help me clean it out, give it florescent lighting and modernize the sink to connect one washer at a time to it! It will be putting all of my washers on stands with wheels on them to solve the shifting around problem!I am so lucky! I gave her the biggest thanks and happy mothers day ever!
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Post# 29669-5/11/2003-19:35 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: wonderful weekend in st louis
MESSAGE: estate sale city and machines every where. every sale had at least one vintage frigidaire stove and least one vintage frigidaire or westinghouse or servel refridgerator and of course the last one you go to has the gold i snaged a 61 frigidaire washer and a 54 frigidaire dryer and they both run great. i just love old folks that save everything
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Post# 29670-5/11/2003-20:17 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Finds A Home (1-18 Parts)
MESSAGE: Todd, I got my new lint filter at Repair Clinic.com for my poppy red 1-18 circa 1975. I am sure I saw the cap you can order for the jetcone there as well. You need your model number, truncated as possible. I have two filters, so if you are in a pinch,let me know-they are hard to clean so I like to have one on deck, but would give it up if you can't find one to preserve the "race" of the machine.
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Post# 29671-5/11/2003-21:48 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing machine collection, a head start for me!
MESSAGE: Jamie, I think that is terrific what your mom is gonna do for you. She's really a great mom and very supportive. I was so glad I got to meet her last August. My only concern with youyur washers being on stands on wheels is when they start spinning, they mays tart rolling around, unless the wheels have locks on them. And by the way, wish your mom a happy mothers day for me too. Bob
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Post# 29672-5/11/2003-21:50 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: wonderful weekend in st louis
MESSAGE: Chris, outstanding!! What model 61 was her is it? And by the way, I understand St. Louis was Frigidaire Country, so keep your eyes peeled. Bob
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Post# 29673-5/12/2003-05:18 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: AEG LavaLux.....Goes For a Spin!!!!
MESSAGE: Its the only one I`ve seen with the clear lid which is great for what we do best..watching!!!and no interlock as well...
The later version had a funnell in the lid to stick a hose in for continuous rinsing...not a problem for me as you can open the lid and spray the clothes whilst the drum is stopping.
Mike
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Post# 29674-5/12/2003-05:27 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: AEG LavaLux.....Goes For a Spin!!!!
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg...certainly was a great find...one of the things I love about this machine is the conrols all those dials and lights and re-set buttons as well as the lever for the pump, reminds me of a gearlever from an old car...
Its hard to think that until the first 2001 convention I hadnt one washer etc, just a few vacs...all thanks to yourself, Robert, Scott and Tom....if you hadnt asked the question..."Why dont you come to the convention" who knows...certainly got the bug now....
That Servis MK41 All-Fabric top loader is lurking somwhere awaiting ...near the Hoover Keyatic I hope!!!!
Mike
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Post# 29675-5/12/2003-05:37 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: AEG LavaLux.....Goes For a Spin!!!! (220v BAM! But Low Watts!!!)
MESSAGE: Hi Jason
Just checked motors on the AEG, the wash motor is 350watts induction, spin motor is 200watts brush, and the pump is 150watts induction....
The spin speed on this machine is quite low as the other twinnys average Hoover=2,300rpm, Servis=2,800rpm and the Hotpoint 3,100rpm
The 220volts is a big consideration here as the wiring in these machines can be up to 40yrs old and need replacing and most of these washers have thick core wiring because of the large wattage heaters.... I always use individual circuit breaker plugs as well as having circuit breakers on all the ring mains in the house etc.... No second chance with these beautys!!!
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Post# 29676-5/12/2003-05:40 ||| chestermikeuk (Chester, UK)
SUBJECT: RE: AEG LavaLux.....Goes For a Spin!!!! (Slimstar Next...)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis
Still thinking of that AEG Lavamat Bella!!!!still getting used to the idea of LavaLux....
Hoping to take a look at the Philips Slimstar this week...fingers crossed...
Mike
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Post# 29677-5/12/2003-07:28 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: Todays (POD)
MESSAGE: It looks like the home appliances in this photo is complete but there is one missing.... Could someone name that unit and did they manufacture them like KA, Whirl-More, Jenn Air, etc?
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Post# 29678-5/12/2003-08:17 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: AEG LavaLux.....Goes For a Spin!!!!
MESSAGE: The one with the funnel in the lid was the Lavalux S. There is a picture in the AEG brochure I posted a while ago. The priced difference between both models was 85 guilders which is around 40 Euros now.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/1950%27s+brochures&.dnm=Aeg-06.jpg&.src=ph&.view=t&.hires=t
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Post# 29679-5/12/2003-08:23 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: AEG LavaLux.....Goes For a Spin!!!! (Slimstar Next...)
MESSAGE: Here's a picture of an AEG Lavamat Bella. This machine is from around 1967.
Hope to see pictures soon of that Slimstar!
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/vwp?.dir=/More+washers&.src=ph&.dnm=AEG+Lavamat+Bella.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/More%2bwashers%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 29680-5/12/2003-09:23 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays (POD) (POD (WHAT'S MISSING))
MESSAGE: I'll take a swing at guessing - How about Dehumidifier? Frigidaire used to make the greatest looking air dryers....
B
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Post# 29681-5/12/2003-10:36 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: 1/18 Finds A Home (1-18 Parts)
MESSAGE: Hi,
Thank you for the info. I'll check out the website you referenced and hang on to that lint filter -- you never know when you might need it.
(I hope the Frigidaire filter is easier to clean than those Whirlpool/Kenmore filters -- I have one in my 1984 Whirlpool washer)
Thanks again and once I get the filter and agitator parts, I'll post some pix.
Take care,
Todd
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Post# 29682-5/12/2003-11:17 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 5-10-03 / Peterh770? (Westy dryer)
MESSAGE: I didn't see the POD, but here is a link to my dryer. If the POD pic is what I think it was, then my dryer is the next model down from it...
-ph
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/vwp?.dir=/SQ+A10&.src=ph&.dnm=WestyDry1.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/peterh770/lst%3f%26.dir=/SQ%2bA10%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 29683-5/12/2003-12:24 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 5-10-03 / Peterh770? (Westy dryer It looks very close!)
MESSAGE: Peter,
Thanks for the link to your picture. That looks very close to the pic of the day that had the Westy Set.
I love your dryer!
I wish that all of them had windows like yours.
It would be so cool if you could find the washer to make a pair. Your dryer is in such great shape.
Brent
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Post# 29684-5/12/2003-12:38 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays (POD) (What's missing ... Here's a couple of guesses)
MESSAGE: I have no idea if Frigidaire made them, but I don't see I freezer, or a disposer, or a compactor.
I also don't see a mangle (a.k.a. a rotary ironer). My mom had one, and yes it was a Frigidaire. ;-) She got rid of it a couple of years ago, much to my dismay. :-( The invention of permanent press (and wash and wear) made mangles (and flat plates) obsolete so it was doubtful that Frigidaire (or anyone else for that matter) was still making them when this ad was run.
Mike
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Post# 29685-5/12/2003-12:39 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: What's Missing From Today's POD
MESSAGE: Let's see....Bob made a good guess by suggesting a missing dehumidifier; I'll go out on a limb and say either a trash compactor or a dedicated ice maker.
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Post# 29686-5/12/2003-13:07 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Todays (POD) (a home with 2 laundries)
MESSAGE: The Skinny-Mini is missing, but that might have been on purpose because of the 1-18 set...
-ph
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Post# 29687-5/12/2003-15:56 ||| wireman (Lansing, MI)
SUBJECT: PeterH's collection...
MESSAGE: Peter,
I enjoyed seeing your collection. We have a 1954 30" Figidaire range in that same cool green color as your great 40" range. Does yours have the later solid, bent tubular oven elements(like our 1969 Custom Imperial) or the thin, coiled wire oven elements (like the 1954)?
Thanks!
Duane
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Post# 29688-5/12/2003-16:08 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: PeterH's collection...
MESSAGE: Thanks, Duane, but the 1959 CI range was at a local used appliance store that I frequent. I say "was" because the owner of the store sold it for $600 to someone, not me! I don't remember the element. It was a beautiful range...
-ph
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Post# 29689-5/12/2003-16:21 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: What's Missing From Today's POD (Right!)
MESSAGE: It looks like you all have guess it, but the most important missing piece was the trash compactor!
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Post# 29690-5/12/2003-19:01 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: SQ laundramat
MESSAGE: Was in a hurry today but got a quick look at an older laundramat with top loaders and the sign on the front was for "SQ". It's in Grey GA. I will try to get by there again and see how old the equipment is.
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Post# 29691-5/12/2003-21:20 ||| George (Calif)
SUBJECT: 1910 Johnson Model f Washer
MESSAGE: I came across a 1910 or so Johnson electric washer. Can anyone tell me were I can get some info on this?
Thank You
George
GNav571526@aol.com
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Post# 29692-5/12/2003-23:33 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Washing machine collection, a head start for me!
MESSAGE: Good for you Jamie - I see your basement "overflowing" with washers already! Give your mom a hug for all of us, many of us would have loved to have a mom half as supportive and understanding of our appliance interests.
BTW, How is the 1-18 you found?
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Post# 29693-5/12/2003-23:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 5-10-03 / Peterh770? (Westy dryer)
MESSAGE: Didn't see the POD???
Five points will be deducted from Gryffindor...
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Post# 29694-5/13/2003-08:51 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 5-10-03 / Peterh770? (Westy dryer)
MESSAGE: I beg to differ, Professor MacGonagal...
-ph
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Post# 29695-5/13/2003-12:29 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD 5-10-03 / Peterh770? (Westy dryer)
MESSAGE: What if he's a Slytherin?
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Post# 29696-5/13/2003-16:32 ||| brianellis (tampa, florida)
SUBJECT: 1950's refrigerator tampa florida area
MESSAGE: looking for a 1950's vintage refrige in tampa florida area
email brianellis4@ureach.com
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Post# 29697-5/13/2003-18:56 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: 1950's refrigerator tampa florida area
MESSAGE: Greetings!
You will want to get into contact with David or Bill Fields at Historic Building Products, Inc. They are at 1502 East Columbus Drive, Tampa and the phone number is: 813-241-6959 and let them know that Mark Harman-Buseman sent you. They had two lovely Frigidaire turquoise fridges several weeks ago that you may want to take a look at.
Best of Luck finding what you want!
Mark (lightedcontrols)
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Post# 29698-5/13/2003-19:03 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: TODAY'S P. O. D.
MESSAGE: These were great machines! This is the model my Grandmother Harman had!!! While I knew they had the light in the lid that shown down and illuminated the tub, I had no idea these machines had the various colored flourescent bulbs available for the control panel. Did anyone out there have one with the white, green, blue, pink or red flourescent? That would have been sooooooo cool! Mark
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Post# 29699-5/13/2003-19:17 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S P. O. D. (POD - Maytag Spin Speed)
MESSAGE: I was curious about the spin speed listed on the POD.
Did Maytag's through this period until now get faster with the spin, or slower?
I thought that the spin speed listed on this model sounded higher than the "Dependable Care" version that I have in the basement.
Brent
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Post# 29700-5/13/2003-19:22 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S P. O. D.
MESSAGE: Mark, did you know of this fact about the bulbs, or did you read it in the POD and I just missed it. Were the bulbs color keyed to the cabinet color? Are these models an AMP or helical drive?
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Post# 29701-5/13/2003-21:55 ||| tlee618 (Danville, Illinois)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S P. O. D.
MESSAGE: Hi Scott and Mark, I too was amazed when I read all the information listed about the POD. Have any of you guys out there ever seen one of the colored bulbs. That would really be neat. I don't recall ever hearing of this before and I thought I always read the ads well over and over. Learn somethng new all the time.
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Post# 29702-5/14/2003-00:16 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S P. O. D. (POD - Maytag Spin Speed)
MESSAGE: I believe Maytags have always had a pretty good spin. I am pretty sure that spin speed is the same as current Maytags. I remember feeling clothes out of my Grandma's Dep. care and feeling clothes out of our belt drive. Our belt drive had noticibly wetter (slower) spins. Even my grandma mentioned this. (this is also partly because we always ussed the perm. press cycle which had a slower spin. We only started using the regular cycle for 6 months before getting rid of that great washer.)
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Post# 29703-5/14/2003-00:32 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S P. O. D.
MESSAGE: Well I'll be. As faithful a participant here, I've never seen this POD. I always wondered what the buttons said on the panel. Now I know. Thank you for whoever found this piece of literature and scanned it. Bob
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Post# 29704-5/14/2003-03:55 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: POD Hotpoint!
MESSAGE: Wow! I dont think I have seen such a fully fewtures machine before!
What year was this model from?
Dont know what one thinks of the model however.
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Post# 29705-5/14/2003-03:56 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: L00K! Classic Hoover on German Ebay
MESSAGE: I just love old Hoover front loaders!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2323016932&category=8419
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Post# 29706-5/14/2003-06:25 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint!
MESSAGE: Hey, Louis - I believe that machine was from around 1970. One of my neighbors had that model and I think that was when they got it. Also, the hair and fashions of the model would tell us that it was around then. Beautiful machine - no doubt about that. But Hotpoints of that pre GE design era were not well regarded for a few reasons. They always seemed to rank dead last in Consumer Reports - washing ability was only rated as average, water extraction was considered worse than average, sand disposal was horrible and most importantly, the frequency of repair record was always "much worse than average". Too bad though - they were impressive looking machines and that "fountain filter" was very dramatic....
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Post# 29707-5/14/2003-07:07 ||| Calypso Bruce (Boston)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint!
MESSAGE: Hi All!
A neighbor of mine had this machine also. I tested it out one time when the neighbor asked me to stay at the house while she ran down the store. Did not have much time as the store was only 5 min. away. It seemed to be a very quiet machine though. Does anyone know if this was direct drive or belt drive? Would love to find one someday.
Cheers
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Post# 29708-5/14/2003-12:02 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint! (Secret Washer Play)
MESSAGE: Ahhh . . . while the owner is away, the washer-boy will play!
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Post# 29709-5/14/2003-12:44 ||| RICKR (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint!
MESSAGE: My mother had a dress like this one,but it had a sheer to wear over it to "soften" the colors.She wore that dress to my aunts wedding in 1969.Her hair was styled as in the photo as well. So I would guess this p.o.d. to be from 1968 to 1970.It's sure "groovy baby" (-:
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Post# 29710-5/14/2003-12:53 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint!
MESSAGE: The late 60s and early 70s is my favorite time period. I was born in 1970 and I remember my childhood in the mid-to-late 70s but lots of the 60s and 70s appliances and stuff was still around back then. It wasn't until the late 70s when styles and designes started changing which I didn't like.
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Post# 29711-5/14/2003-13:11 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint! (Secret Washer Play (caught in the act))
MESSAGE: I was watching a neighbor's kids when I was a teen while she had her hair done. The kids were outside and I decided to check out her new 1965 Lady Kenmore in the basement. (The machine with the "spank-a-lator" Roto-flex agitator.) I had just filled it with water and started to agitate when I heard her come in the house. I turned off the machine and ran upstairs, got my money and scrammed. Boy, I bet she was surprized when she went to do her next load of laundry and the machine was already full of water!!! She never said anything about it.
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Post# 29712-5/14/2003-14:00 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint!
MESSAGE: Appliances change as do automobiles,homes and clothes.Not always for the best,but they will always change so people will buy new things. The appliances of the 50's and early 60's with the chrome are styled like cars of the time.The late 60's with the fake woodgrain,and tub size wars are like the cars of the time,with fake woodgrain,ample use of plastic,and the engine size wars. I think we related to what was in style when we were younger and life was simpler for us. At any rate the p.o.d. are alway's fun to look at and remember!
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Post# 29713-5/14/2003-14:08 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint!
MESSAGE: The best part about this POD is the flexibility you had with just one wash cycle! Definitely one of my "dream machines" to hunt for!
-ph
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Post# 29714-5/14/2003-14:17 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint! (Pucci dresses off topic)
MESSAGE: I think that dress is from the couture designer Emilio Pucci. Elizabeth Montgomery wears similar dresses on a few "Bewitched" episodes. These very vibrant fashions were very cool, compared with solid color polyester skirt and jackets that were so fashionable at that time.
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Post# 29715-5/14/2003-14:59 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint! (Secret Washer Play)
MESSAGE: Oh my gosh, the same thing happened to me a couple times! Whenever I was at a friend's house & had an opportunity when I was alone, I'd quickly switch on the washer. My best friend's Mom had a late 60s GE and my neighbor friend's Mom had matching avocado green 1971 Frigidaire washer & dryer. The washer had the window in the lid so I could quickly sneak a peek when it was in action!
Ah, memories...!
Todd
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Post# 29716-5/14/2003-15:30 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint! (Secret Washer Play (caught in the act))
MESSAGE: I got caught with my aunt's Speed Queen a couple times, although she did sometimes let me wash a load.
Another aunt with a 1969 (or thereabouts) Kenmore 800 also sometimes let me wash, but I also got 'caught' occasionally.
I did NOT get caught investigating a neighbor's Norge/Catalina with a burp-up filter while a load was running. :-)
Another neighbor with a Catalina, I never could get into that machine. The utility room was right off the kitchen, and the spin-brake gave me away every time.
I remember visiting at a friend's house once, his parents weren't home and he had gone to take a shower before coming to my house to spend the night, and I checked out their coppertone Kenmore 70 pair -- the washer needed some clutch/brake work.
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Post# 29717-5/14/2003-15:42 ||| RE563 (Ft. Lauderdale)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint! (Secret Washer Play (caught in the act))
MESSAGE: Man i'm glad i'm not the only one that got busted with this stuff. My tuffest buster was my own mother. GOD!!!!--SHE JUST HATED ME NEAR HER WASHER. (probably cause I knew more about it than she did)--lol
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Post# 29718-5/14/2003-16:09 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint! (Secret Washer Play (caught in the act))
MESSAGE: I did that once at a house I was babysitting at, they had an old Kenmore washer and I wanted to see the fat roto-swirl in action. While I was filling the machine, I noticed water running all over the basement floor, apparently there was a cracked water valve and this happened whenever the water was turned on.
"Did you use the washer? There was water all over the basement when we got home."
Er, maybe....
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Post# 29719-5/14/2003-16:46 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint! (Secret Washer Play (caught in the act) I'm Guilty also!)
MESSAGE: My cousins had a wonderful Frigidaire built-in dishwasher that was never, never used! It was like Robert's. One day when my cousin got in the shower, I got up the nerve to turn it on. I really don't know what in the world happend, but it would not stop filling with water. It just, filled, and filled, and flowed all over the kitchen floor. I just walked out of the kitchen, like I did not have a clue what was going on.
Of course I was confronted with this by my aunt, and I said that I bumped the timer, and it came on, and I did not know what to do because I was scared. (I think I was about 8 years old) She then told me that the reason they did not run it was because the timer stuck. Well, she got a new floor out of it, and a new dishwasher. I guess it was trashed!
Brent
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Post# 29720-5/14/2003-17:07 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint! (Secret Washer Play (caught in the act))
MESSAGE: My mother hated washing, she was glad I liked handling the washer. Ofcourse I learned handling it by playing with it while she wasn't home. I confess now. Guilty as charged. But I was never caught :-) BTW, watch your washers when I'm around, I still like playing, especially doing a spincycle!
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Post# 29721-5/14/2003-17:36 ||| shawn (Waterford Ct)
SUBJECT: Found a Frigidaire
MESSAGE: Going to work today I saw a Frigidaire washer outside a used appliance store. I would say it was early 60's and had a three ring rubber agitator. It was not very rusty but not sure if it works. If anyone out there is interested in it let me know and I will see what I can do. Shawn.
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Post# 29722-5/14/2003-18:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint!
MESSAGE: The late 60s were still for the most part big chrome beasts. Maybe not as flashy as their 50s counterparts but stuff was still made bigger and better back then. In the 70s we saw the recession, the corner cuts and all. That's when the plastic, the faux woodgrain, the ugly panels, and the not-so-reliable mechanisms.
As the 80s rolled on, the age of plastic was here but at least it got a little prettier with the black and chrome faceplates. Electronics moved in and everyone's favorite washer moved out (Frigidaire). MY favorite washer design moved out in the late 80s and made way for a thumpin' plastic clothes shredder.
The 90s rolls in... In the grunge era, political correctness sets in and names like Lady Kenmore goes away. Don't get me started on that because I might say something politically UNcorrect. The last of the black and chrome gives way for sanitary hospital white. blech.
The 2000s... There is hope: Neptune, He3t, Frigemore, Harmony, Turbodrum, Calypso.... New and different designs and ways of washing clothes.
WELCOME TO THE 2ND GOLDEN AGE OF THE AUTOMATIC WASHER
It's like we're in a new 50s but gone completely techno. A new TV system is coming out to replace the old. Higher Fidelity recordings are coming out. The cars today are unbelievable. So long 90s... don't come back.
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Post# 29723-5/14/2003-20:11 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint! (Secret Washer Play (caught in the act))
MESSAGE: LOL! I'm glad that I'm not the only one. I got busted once and I never even got to turn the thing on. One of my aunt's had a Bendix combo. I never knew that it existed until the day of her funeral. (She never let us play in the basement.) I discovered it when my uncle sent me downstairs to get some ice. I was gone so long that another aunt came looking for me. "What are you doing? There's nothing that would interest you down here!" I had to practically bite my tongue to prevent myself from responding "Oh Yeah!?! (I would have given just about anything to see it operate.) Sigh!
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Post# 29724-5/14/2003-21:24 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Flair Range in PINK!!!
MESSAGE: Greetings Everyone! There is a lovely PINK Frigidaire Flair range on ebay that I thought you guys might want to check out!
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3223459143&category=12514 Mark
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Post# 29725-5/14/2003-21:33 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Flair Range in PINK!!!
MESSAGE: ...and to complete your pink Frigidaire kitchen, there is a pink refrigerator and dishwasher to go along! See the Frigidaire at the link, then click on other items to see the diswasher. It is the same seller. We had a similar dishwasher in turquoise, only it was a higher end model.
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2322340226&category=20713
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Post# 29726-5/14/2003-21:34 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S P. O. D.
MESSAGE: I read about the color bulbs in the ad. I knew the lid had a bulb in it because when the lid was raised the light was on unless the timer was pushed in. There was also a 10 watt bulb behind the timer when the machine was on. The red and black buttons turned on the backpanel flourescents and I HAD NO IDEA they were available in colors! WHAT A GREAT IDEA!!! Mark
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Post# 29727-5/14/2003-21:39 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint!
MESSAGE: I had a cousin that had this machine. One day when we were visiting, she asked me and my Dad to take a look at it because it was completely dead. Dad gave up on it and I started fooling around with it and got it working again. Just jiggled the plug in the wall a few times. I remember watching it wash and it really looked like it washed well. LOTS of rollover.....and actually as much as the Jet Action Frigidaire that we had. Never heard of her having any more trouble with that washer. She moved from Tampa and I lost track of her...and the washer. Mark
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Post# 29728-5/14/2003-21:53 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S P. O. D. ( Maytag p.o.d./coloring flouresent tubes)
MESSAGE: I work for a company that manufactors special effects for movies,rock concerts etc. We produce "gel tubes" in most any color to fit any flouresent light,even the mini tubes.They are made to order but are not expensive at all.They are cool to use in jukeboxes,overhead to color correct,or to use as mood lights,and I guess even washing machines! We do not sell directly but these could be purchased through one of our lighting dealers.Call the sales dept. 800-288-4626 (Apollo Design Technology) on these if anyone wants more info. Thanks!
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Post# 29729-5/14/2003-22:01 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S P. O. D. (TODAYS POD)
MESSAGE: I COULD BE MISTAKEN BUT WHEN I FIRST WAS READING ALL THE ARCHIVES, I SEEM TO REMEMBER SOMEONE, SAYING MAYTAG PUT OUT A TRANSPARENT TUBE IN THE DIFFERENT PASTEL COLORS THAT WAS SLID OVER THE REGULAR WHITE BULB. HI EVERYONE, I HAVENT POSTED IN A WHILE BUT ALWAYS CHECK OUT THE POD ALSO, I GUESS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT YESTERDAYS MAYTAG AND NOT TODAYS HOTPOINT, WHICH IS REALLY COOL...HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING OK. THANKS ALR 2903
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Post# 29730-5/14/2003-22:05 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S P. O. D. ( Maytag p.o.d./coloring flouresent tubes)
MESSAGE: Rick R. sorry i posted before I read your post, but that is just what someone posted in the archives about these tinted lights. I think back then of course it was some kind of thick cellophane plastic like stuff. you sure said what I was trying to say alot better though. :-)
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Post# 29731-5/14/2003-22:38 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S P. O. D. ( Maytag p.o.d./coloring flouresent tubes)
MESSAGE: Hey no prob. The stuff is called "gel" because in the early days of theatre it was in a liquid,and the stage hands had to apply it to the bulbs with a brush.That was 90 years ago.In the 1940's the product was produced in sheets of plastic,and put in a frame and placed in front of the lights.Today it is still called "gel". Only someone in the business would know the real name of the stuff.To everyone else it's "Look at the color,how do they do that!"We sell a TON of the stuff to rock bands for when when they go on tours.It is simply cut and rolled up and placed in a clear sleeves for the gel tubes.
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Post# 29732-5/15/2003-08:18 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: burp-up filters
MESSAGE: Exactly how did the burp-up filters work?I have seen them on Norges and later solid tub Hotpoints,and could never figure how the water got up to that level.
As to the older Hotpoints scoring poorly in consumer magazine tests,my mothers best friend had one,guess it to be about a 1963 model,and I got to watch it work many times while they visited.The washing action was definately weak,with poor turnover.The agitator was a straight vane,and the vanes stopped low on it-came no where near water level.Almost no movement of clothes on top.Also,the under water filter slowed turnover,as removing it helped.At spin,the machine always acted as if it were slightly out of balance,even though it was on a slab floor.
Tom
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Post# 29733-5/15/2003-11:08 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: burp-up filters (How Does it Work?)
MESSAGE: Hi Tom,
My "dream machine" (1963 Wards Signature washer) had this type of agitator/filter. There are holes at the base of the agitator between the vanes; the back & forth action creates enough force to push the water up thru channels inside the agitator and out the top into a lint filter. I remember when I was a kid I found an old agitator like it at the dump and brought it home, cleaned it up & used to play with it in the bathtub! I was able to turn it hard enough to make it work in the tub. Pretty neat technology if you ask me!
Hope this helps.
Todd
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Post# 29734-5/15/2003-14:00 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: burp-up filters (How Does it Work?)
MESSAGE: Todd
Figured it had to be something along this line,but didnt think that much pressure would be created-of course not much water came out as I remember!
Thanks
Tom
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Post# 29735-5/15/2003-14:19 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: burp-up filters (How Does it Work? I Love that!)
MESSAGE: Todd,
Your story made me laugh!
You had cool parents to let you bring something like that into the tub.
Or did you sneak it? :)
Brent
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Post# 29736-5/15/2003-16:44 ||| Cehalstead (charleston, wv)
SUBJECT: RE: TODAY'S P. O. D. (POD - Maytag Spin Speed)
MESSAGE: i had a 1980 maytag that seemed to spin a lot faster than the new dependable care i have. wish i had never bought the new one.
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Post# 29737-5/15/2003-16:48 ||| Cehalstead (charleston, wv)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint! (Secret Washer Play (caught in the act))
MESSAGE: my grandmother thought it was disgusting that i liked to watch the washer operating. i didn't, after all she had a 1953 frigidaire.
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Post# 29738-5/15/2003-16:54 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: Today's POD Kenmore Dryer!
MESSAGE: As you all know, I do not collect Kenmores but happen to have a model in white much like today's POD. It has the button heat selectors instead of the hanging switches. Also has the round dryness control and has a lighted control panel. Just couldn't stand the thought of it being junked. While it has not been restored, per se, it does work. It needs paint etc... but electrically, it's fine. Just needs a loving home. So if any of you guys want it, please email me at bigrrfan@aol.com and you can have it. This will give me one more space for a washer or dryer that I do collect! If you would like, I can get you a price for shipping or you can come to Saint Petersburg, Florida and pick it up. Mark
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Post# 29739-5/15/2003-16:57 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint! (Secret Washer Play (caught in the act))
MESSAGE: My mom never minded me watching the washer,and in fact when she returned to college I took over the duty entirely,which helped her and made me happy.Oddly enough,I now do as much laundry as I did then,as I married a lady last year with 3 kids!I feel like I am in my second childhood.By the way,I think it would be interesting to know what modern machines all our members own,to see if there is an overwhelming favorite.Mine is a Gibson FL,bought last year right before the wedding-figured it would save enough to pay for itself.
Tom
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Post# 29740-5/15/2003-22:25 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: westinghouse TL
MESSAGE: Looking through the vintage articles I still cannot determine when did Westinghouse take their first try at a TL machine, earlier in the week the POD was a westy front load. by 1963 they still had not entered the topload market yet?? anyone know, anyone have pics. I just always wondered about this. I have always been a westy tumbler fan. Thanks.
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Post# 29741-5/16/2003-00:15 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: POD 05/16/03 Maytag coin-op
MESSAGE: I had that exact same washer, including color (Jason) in my Freshman dorn in 1973, dorm built in 1969 or 1970.
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Post# 29742-5/16/2003-00:28 ||| gadgetmad (Birmingham, AL)
SUBJECT: RE: POD Hotpoint! (washers we own)
MESSAGE: if you havent already done it, mulls, check out the Profiles section of this site. Most of the members have registered what we own, both modern and classic.
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Post# 29743-5/16/2003-01:55 ||| washerlover (northern California)
SUBJECT: RE: burp-up filters (Burp-Up Filter)
MESSAGE: Brent,
Boy, my poor parents! They soon gave in to my love for washing machines -- I remember whenever we went to visit anyone, family or friends, I always asked my mom or dad to ask whoever we were visiting if they had any laundry. Surprisingly, some went along with it! I often enjoyed being by myself watching many different machines while my parents talked "grown up" talk with their friends/relatives. I'm sure they were just happy to have me out of their hair for a while! Regardless, I certainly had fun checking out a myriad of machines in action!
Anyway, back to the burp-up filter, as I said, I did make it work in the bathtub and was able to solve an age-old mystery (at my age of about 8, it was age-old to me) of how the thing really worked! And no, I didn't have to sneak it into the tub!
Take care,
Todd
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Post# 29744-5/16/2003-07:45 ||| surge'nsubmerge (Ohio)
SUBJECT: Hotpoint
MESSAGE: You talk about the poor quality of Hotpoint washers. As I mentioned in my profile, my mom had a 1960 Hotpoint "Touch Command" washer, which succumbed after eight years due to a bad transmission. We also had a 1960 Hotpoint fridge that died after six years due to a bad compressor, which was supposedly under warranty. I remember my dad writing letters to an array of people at Hotpoint, taking them to task for not only giving him the bum's rush for not responding to his inquiries about the warranty (and what was he gonna do about all that spoiled food), but essentially indicting Hotpoint's reputation. They eventually responded by replacing the fridge with a new one - FREE, which lasted 23 years. It was replaced with still another Hotpoint unit, which died 10 years later, almost to the day (fortunately, they were getting ready to sell the house!)
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Post# 29745-5/16/2003-10:37 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: westinghouse TL
MESSAGE: I know Westinghouse had a top loader in the 60's ( and I was thinking around early 60's) because my Grandmother had one. It was a perforated tub model with different colored buttons to match for the load size. However, I'm sure they had earlier ones that had solid tubs because I know some of the collectors in the club has them. Mark
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Post# 29746-5/16/2003-12:18 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: westinghouse TL
MESSAGE: I think the first Westy TL's were manufactured by EASY. Then the perforated tub ones were the infamous Franklin machines. The westy TLs went on in the 70s and finally that design wound up in the Frigidaire 1-18 when GM stopped making the pulsators. losers
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Post# 29747-5/16/2003-12:32 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: westinghouse TL
MESSAGE: "Air":
I believe that Westinghouse did introduced their first top loading washer back in 1963. But saying that now, it was probably in the latter part of 1963 and was consequently, introduced as a 1964 model. They kept on producing front loaders during that same time.
--Charles--
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Post# 29748-5/16/2003-14:40 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: westinghouse TL (1964)
MESSAGE: Right - the first Westinghouse branded top loaders were mfd by Easy, with the "VelvaPower" direct drive tranny. There were only a scant few models of this machine available for little more than a year.
For the '64 model year, Westinghouse introduced their own top loading design, a close cousin of the Franklin design, but some differences in the transmission and other components. After the Easy made machines, Westinghouse never used a solid tub - just lots and lots of water...
Sometime in the 70's Westinghouse appliance div. became White-Westinghouse, part of the infamous White Consolidated Industries family of brands we know and loathe so well.
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Post# 29749-5/16/2003-20:05 ||| camMURRAY20 (Savannah, GA)
SUBJECT: Westy TLs
MESSAGE: I have a Westy A/C. When will the Westinghouse wing open?
Chris
I waiting to see the all of their Westy tls.
LINK: http://frigidaire.com
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Post# 29750-5/16/2003-21:16 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: Be Careful With Things That Spin
MESSAGE: If it had been a Maytag this wouldn't have happened
LINK: http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/news/051603_nw_newark_accident.html
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Post# 29751-5/16/2003-22:30 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Be Careful With Things That Spin
MESSAGE: Would that be becuase of the lack of spped or Maytags obsession with keeping all action out of sight?
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Post# 29752-5/16/2003-22:32 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: Some very special to show you all
MESSAGE: One of my favourite Classic Simpsons is up for grabs on Ebay.
Pity it is in Brisbane.
But you cann see this beautiful machine at least!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2323646856&category=20715
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Post# 29753-5/17/2003-04:05 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: burp-up filters (Hotpoint Older Appliances:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Dear Club Friend's, I've had some time of a non-operating Computer and are glad to be back. I want to first of all, thank everyone who sent me Birthday Wishes earlier this month. I had a real nice Celebration with my extended Family and had a real good time.
I also wanted to comment about the older Hotpoint Appliances. My Parent's had a 1959 Hotpoint "MOL" Washer, with the Solid Tub and an Incandescent Light on the Left Side of the Console and the Underwater Lint Filter on the Thin Black Agitator, with a Detergent Dish on top of the Filter. It was a pretty good performing Washer and I always thought that it had some pretty interesting, neat sounds during the Cycles. They also had a 1962 Hotpoint "TOL" Electric Dryer that had an access panel inside the Drum, to allow you to open to clean excessive Lint out of the outer part of the Drum and it had a Full-Width Fluorescent Light. They had an approx. 1956 Hotpoint Top Freezer {Manual Defrost} Refrigerator, that I actually loved to do the Defrosting of the Freezer for my Parent's. These all lasted about an average of 9 or 10 years, before being replaced, but mostly for updating through the years and still operating. They were all pretty nice Appliances and all being totally trouble-free operating for us. The Hotpoint Washer was replaced with a 1966 Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer, the Hotpoint Refrigerator was replaced with a 1967 Frigidaire
19.5 cu.ft. Side-By-Side in Coppertone Color. The Hotpoint Dryer was replaced, along with the Frigidaire Washer, thanks to me for a 1968 Lady-K Matched Set in Coppertone. The
Lady-K's were replaced with a 1985 Lady-K Matched Almond Color Mechanical Control Set, of which I still have, but need to replace the Tub Seals, before being able to operate it again. The rest of the older Appliances were White Color Cabinet's. I just thought that I would out my own "2-cents" worth in about the Hotpoint Appliances that we owned and to let everyone know that they aren't all bad or getting terrible Repair reports.
I hope that this finds everyone well and able to be enjoying some nice Weather and having fun with your own Appliances
Best To All Steve
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Post# 29754-5/17/2003-04:20 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Some very special to show you all
MESSAGE: Hey Arrrooohhh,
These buttons on the left, do they have three positions on which you can switch them?
Louis
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Post# 29755-5/17/2003-10:47 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: Finally scanned the 1975-1976 Miele brochure
MESSAGE: Thanks to a cold I was forced to stay home, so I decided to do something useful. I scanned the Miele brochure for 1975 - 1976. There were quite some changes from the previous brochure.
The Miele Studio-M kitchen was introduced with built-in appliances including a raised dishwasher. A humidifier with electric heater and a trash compactor were also new. The dryers were redesigned so the controls were now on the right and they matched the washers better. Besides that a water cooled condenser dryer was introduced, the T337K on page 13. And last but not least there were more vacuums in more colors available.
Hope you enjoy,
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst?&.dir=/1975-1976+Miele+brochure&.src=ph&.begin=9999&.view=t&.order=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/lst%3f%26.dir=/1975-1976%2bMiele%2bbrochure%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 29756-5/17/2003-18:54 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally scanned the 1975-1976 Miele brochure
MESSAGE: I love the irons! Thanks for the scans - hope your cold is better.
I see no harvest gold, coppertone or the much loved avocado green in the Miele line, did most european appliances only come in white?
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Post# 29757-5/17/2003-19:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: 1960 Flair Range Parts
MESSAGE: I picked up the RCIB-645 (1960) Flair range from a friend's garage today and stripped it for parts. The cabinet was in horrible condition and it's already gone, but I do have all of the controls, oven doors, racks, elements & sockets burner parts, etc. available if anyone is searching for something. I do NOT have the Meat Tender probe or the optional rotisserie unit (this was available only as an option and had to be installed after purchasing the range - very, very rare indeed)
Email me at gansky1@cox.net if you are looking for something. Hope everyone is having a good weekend!
Greg
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Post# 29758-5/17/2003-21:43 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Westy TLs
MESSAGE: I don't think anyone has a Westy TL in their collections anywhere...???
-ph
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Post# 29759-5/17/2003-21:45 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: POD 5-17-03
MESSAGE: So I don't get any points deducted for not looking at the POD...
I found this dryer about a month ago in coppertone on the back of a delivery truck. It was in pretty good shape, but "it was just a dryer" and I let it go. I do have to leave some room in the house to get around...
-ph
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Post# 29760-5/18/2003-02:08 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: Westy TLs (westy TL'S)
MESSAGE: Peter sure doesnt look like anyone has a westy TL, and if you Think about it The real Westinghouse machines were the First to be gobbled up by WCI, I dont know if the pre WCI, Westinghouse TL's were any better than the post WCI, TL's but i sure would like to see some pics of Westinghouse Electrics, early attempts at these machines, anybody have any? Thanks Guys. growing up we had Westy spacemates and a top freezer fridge, actually the best fridge my family ever had. YOU COULD BE SURE IF IT WAS WESTINGHOUSE. Their stuff had a distintive design back then, just as Frigidaire and others.
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Post# 29761-5/18/2003-02:44 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally scanned the 1975-1976 Miele brochure
MESSAGE: Hey Greg,
Mieles always came in white as most other European brands did. In the seventies however there was the inevitable brown, several manufacturers made appliances in this color (I don't think Miele came in brown). I hated that brown and it set my preference definitely to white. Only the early Asko's (then called Asea) came in various colors, I remember blue, yellow, black and ofcourse (!) pink, but there might have been some more. I like the orange and avocado Miele vacuums from this brochure.
Louis
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Post# 29762-5/18/2003-03:34 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Some very special to show you all
MESSAGE: Hi Louis!
The rocker switches are three positions each, Water Level, High Medium Low, Temperature, Hot Warm and Cold, and the Third switch was sometimes a heater switch or a selector for Suds Save/Rinse Hold.
Gizmo am I right?
There was an earlier model than this late 70's example that had a blue control panel and six lights 3 either side of the cycle selector that indicated all parts of the cycle. Would love to find one of those!
Hope you liked that machine
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Post# 29763-5/18/2003-03:41 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally scanned the 1975-1976 Miele brochure
MESSAGE: 1976 Mieles! WoW!
1976 was a good year :)
Thanx for scanning that brouchure for us and hope you get better soon!
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Post# 29764-5/18/2003-07:45 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally scanned the 1975-1976 Miele brochure (Awesome Avocado)
MESSAGE: I like that first page. Geez, to have a kitchen like that. Dream come true.
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Post# 29765-5/18/2003-14:22 ||| keymatic (Surrey.U.K)
SUBJECT: Easy Spin-Drier 1955
MESSAGE: Hi All,
I was just wondering if anyone could help me, I am looking for a "Spiralator" agitator for a 1955 Easy Spin Drier washer.
Does ayone know any where, where you can still get old parts for these washers?
I would be grateful any information on the above.
Thanks
Keith (keymatic)
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Post# 29766-5/18/2003-15:24 ||| boschboy (Portland, OR)
SUBJECT: RE: Westy TLs (westy TL'S)
MESSAGE: Remember Westinghouse's print advertisements with Pearl Bailey and their front-load washers? (My grandma had a Westy FL from that era: it had the control panel on top of the machine, and it had a pointy handle that turned to open the side-swing door.) I seem to remember one advertisement from that time that was for one of their top-load machines. Would that have been pre-WCI?
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Post# 29767-5/18/2003-15:36 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: Easy Spin-Drier 1955 ( )
MESSAGE: Hey Keymatic,
I think I have a 50's Easy Spirilator agitator on hand. Do you have a pic of what you need or of the machine? You can email me thru my profile if you like.
Jimmy FilterFlo
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Post# 29768-5/18/2003-17:52 ||| pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: Good bye, Maytag. YES!
MESSAGE: Our old Maytag Washer died. (It started to smoke and would not drain.) And I have 99.9% of the choice of the new washer. My mom has the other 0.1%. My mother and me went to "Big Georges" to look for one. (HINT: Big Georges is the perfect junkyard in the back!" We decided but didn't yet buy to get a Fisher Paykel! Now, here is the biggie, how do you go about tricking the lid switch on the NEWER model? I simply must be able to watch it. Please help me! Thanks a bunch!
Best Washes,
Jamie
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Post# 29769-5/18/2003-22:30 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Good bye, Maytag. YES! (KITCHEN MAGNET)
MESSAGE: DADoES has a Fisher & Paykel so he can give you details, but I think you tape a magnet to the bump in the top section and it works. They're FUN to watch.
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Post# 29770-5/18/2003-22:31 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Good bye, Maytag. YES! (RIP)
MESSAGE: Goodbye evil Maytag. RUST RUST RUST
No offense to maytag lovers here, I just don't like their over-redundant safety switch.
Maytag: You will not watch.
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Post# 29771-5/18/2003-23:02 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Some very special to show you all
MESSAGE: Hi arrroohhh
the third switch was suds save/normal/permanent press(rinse hold).
I doubt if a heater was still available by the time this machine was made.
I have seen the blue rocker switch machines but never one with a row of lights - was that a TOL model? Pity so many of us Aussies buy BOL models. There was a Hoover 655 (?) advertised in the Trading Post recently, a 620 with a row of pushbuttons instead of knobs. Someting I have rarely seen, but 620's are everywhere.
Chris.
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Post# 29772-5/18/2003-23:03 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Good bye, Maytag. YES!
MESSAGE: Hi Jamie
I thought your Maytag was replaced by a Hettie a few months ago. What happened to that?
Chris.
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Post# 29773-5/18/2003-23:41 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Good bye, Maytag. YES!
MESSAGE: Jamie, why not get an HE3T or a Duet HT???
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Post# 29774-5/19/2003-17:02 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: RE: Good bye, Maytag. YES! (Duet)
MESSAGE: Actually we replaced the Kenmore. IT talks about it departing in my profile.
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Post# 29775-5/19/2003-17:04 ||| Pulsator (826 Vesper ,Ann Arbor, Michigan 48103)
SUBJECT: RE: Good bye, Maytag. YES! (Why not to buy a duet.)
MESSAGE: Well, you see, my dad has a Duet and it is starting to give up, one of the baffles cracked, and it is tangling. My mom says no way when it comes to breaking or to tangles.
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Post# 29776-5/19/2003-18:42 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: Good bye, Maytag. YES! (Why not to buy a duet.)
MESSAGE: Is he washing bricks?? LOL.
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Post# 29777-5/19/2003-19:37 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Long Winded Comments on Previous Subjects
MESSAGE: Everyone,
It has been awhile since I have posted but just wanted to share some thoughts on previous thingst talked about here.
I ALWAYS got caught playing with everyones washers, dryers but MOSTLY their vacuum cleaners. Most thought I was weird but most gave into my obsession and many would save their vacuuming and laundry to keep me occupied. Mrs. Wright from next door in my hometown had a 60's GE set that had a lighted control panel with the light being at the bottom rather than the top of the dash and had lots of little flippy switches and one large dial. Dryer was matching and had the same arrangement.
I only could hear it run whe I would go and visit her,as I was never allowed into her basement when I was younger. Later towards my mid teens she got early 90's Maytags...blaaah. But she had a Kirby Classic from about 1972 that she actually left me in her will after she died last year. You have no idea HOW many times I begged her to sell it to me...so I was suprised when her son called me and told me that it was mine a mint 1972 Kirby with every attachment...can you imagine how goofed I was about that.
Because my great uncle was a repairman for Sears my mom's side of the family always had MOL Kenmores never with any cool features. he would get EVERYONE great deals so there was never a need to buy anything else. My mom's mom (Grandma) after YEARS of having low ine stuff finally had a TOL All Pushbutton Kenmore from 1975 which she hated so badly, that she gave up her free time, got her own job and bought the washer and dryer that SHE wanted which was an early 80's Fabric-Master model Maytags that she still owns ( SHE HATES KENMORES BECAUSE OF MY UNCLE TO THIS DAY)...( he pushed things onto people).
My dad's mom had my most favorite washer of all. She had a Westinghouse Laundromat model LBB30. It was white with a lighted control panel. She also had the matching dryer. Recently, whilst cleaning her basement I found a supplemental page that my grandpa ordered ( and summarily HID from me) a spec sheet/part sheet for that very washer. Now that granny's a widow she wants to get a smaller condo style home and sell the bigger house to have the dough to buy a small condo in Florida. So as I was cleaning I found it and guess what I'm keeping it.
About three years ago, we had an avacado Maytag come in at my old job a few years back; where we did refurbishments to appliances. It was an early Washpower Automatic from according to the build date a 1968 model wasn't an all pushbutton but was probably second from the top. It had the deep tub, wash water save, four W/R temps, two speeds and three cycles and finally four position water level selector. It had a colored panel light of a light mint green and it was a plastic sheath that enveloped the entire bulb. Gave the murky white panel a sort of eerie green glow. I had that machine for two years at the store.
Out of the freakin blue, my boss became a total shit (he knowing full well that I had used my OWN time and money to refurbish this thing)did the unthinkable. I came into work and the ass had sold it for 125.00 as a cheapie. Three weeks later I came to work for Hoover. That wasn't the last straw, but it definitly FROSTED the cake.
I found an old Maytag Gyrator Wringer at the junkyard when i was about nine or so and because I was too young and small I couldn't bring home the whole thing. I took out the agitator, and used to play with it in the double laundry tubs in our basement...and yes you could move it faast enough to see the gyrafoam action in the water. I used to throw in a small wash cloth just to see it twirl around and around. Never though of or did it ever cross my mind to take it into the bathtub....but then, my mother DEFINITLY would have commited me.
I have a brochure that I recently got off of e-bay for the 1964 line of Westinghouse Laundry appliances...called :
The Most COMPLETE Laundry Line in the Land for 64'.
It features the NEW straight front Laundromat Front Loaders in five different confectionate colors: Pink, white, mint, butter yellow and chocolate brown. I know that is NOT the names of the colors but I'm paraphrasing as I dont have it right here to give the ACTUAL names.
Then there is a two side broadsheet on the end of the booklet proclaiming the virtues of the Heavy Duty 18 Top Loading Laundromat (i.e Isn't that not just a TAD CONFUSING).
I mean the Laundromat was the name of their front loaders...and now they call their new TLoader a Laundromat too? It seems AWFULLY Stupid to me that Westinghouse would confuse their top Loaders with their Awesome Laundromat Front Loader....but then again this was the beginning of the fall for Westinghouse Major Appliances.
And because of that fall in 10 years as we all know...it became a division of "Worthless Corporate Idenities". I'm sad (see sidebar).
:-(
Anyway I have used and seen one and have seen it again recently. Because a large Westinghouse dealer here in town Eschtruth Westinghouse Co here in Grand Ledge Mi, now G&W Maytag had a contract with the GL school district when they built the new Middle school in 1966 to get TOL Westinghouse appliances for the Home Economics Department. I forgot about that until I got my 1964 pamphlet that Westinghouse made a TL washer. Of course I went to the older Middle school which had all Hotpoint stuff.
The new Middle schools stuff including the TL Washer and dryer is in harvest gold They still have it as I called Mrs. Heinrich the Home Ec. teacher and asked her. She said that they get used like three times a year so they have had little use and they are in a climate controlled enviorment so they all work great. All of the Stoves refrigerators and dishwashers are Westinghouse too. The mixers and blenders are as well.
I stopped in we talked and I got to use them...The inner tbb was black with mint green flecks and did have spintub holes to drain out the water It has a Mint green agitator that resembles a Roto Swirl agitator. One thing about it....It partially drains befor going into the spin cycle ala Kenmore.
I have a meeting with the school borad to buy them..:-)
I really would like a real Westinghouse set that does not say WHITE befor it! All of you say a small prayer for me.
Anyway that's all for now
take Care all
Chad
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Post# 29778-5/19/2003-20:13 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Long Winded Comments on Previous Subjects
MESSAGE: Chad, what fun stories. It's kind of neat in a way, that that lady left you her Kirby in her will. She remembered how much you enjoyed it and maybe that was why she never sold it to you!
Do you remember why your grandmother didn't like the 75 Lady K? I thought those were wonderful machines. Curious that more of your relatives did not get more higher end machines given that they got "deals" from your uncle.
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Post# 29779-5/19/2003-21:05 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Good bye, Maytag. YES!
MESSAGE: Congrats Jamie! I'm sure someone will help you with advice for this NEW machine over in the Sandbox! Good Luck!
-ph
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Post# 29780-5/19/2003-23:04 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Long Winded Comments on Previous Subjects
MESSAGE: Wow! Excellent post. Thanks for sharing Chad!
Mike
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Post# 29781-5/20/2003-00:27 ||| gizmo (Great Ocean Road, Victoria, Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Long Winded Comments on Previous Subjects
MESSAGE: Hi Chad
Westinghouse top loaders were sold here in Aus for quite a few years, late sixties and through most of the seventies. They were all called Laundromat. The Westinghouse name was resurrected in the late eighties as a rebadged Simpson, again called a Westinghouse Laundromat. Its only claim to fame was a lid that folded in the middle as it opened. Otherwise a piece of plastic junk.
The last of the original ones (mid 1970's) had a lock down lid which was unique on the Aussie market. They had a grey spiral agitator. I repaired one about ten years ago and it was a cow to work on. It went to my sister's house to wash horse rugs - her husband trains racehorses. I haven't heard about its demise so I suspect it is still struggling on. What a hard life for a washing machine!
Chris
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Post# 29782-5/20/2003-00:32 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: 1950's ? Hotpoint kitchen setup and dishwasher
MESSAGE: I just got this on sunday my new hotponit dishwasher the inside of the cabinet sez something about hotpoint on it but its not so readable anymore LOL just thought i'd share this with everyone still works too LOL theres a few pics posted in my pictures album just goto the complete album and there all at the end
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/vwp?.dir=/My+Photos&.src=ph&.dnm=Hotpoint+Dishwasher+and+sink.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/oldappliancenut/lst%3f%26.dir=/My%2bPhotos%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 29783-5/20/2003-03:52 ||| surge'nsubmerge (Ohio)
SUBJECT: Duets, He3t's, and...
MESSAGE: Is anybody familiar with a Korean appliance manufacturer called LG? I've not only seen advertisments for them, (someplace in NYC had a combo washer-dryer on eBay), but they offer a full-sized free standing front-loading washer wnd matching dryer. They have a look that reminds me of a '53 Bendix "perfect pair." I saw them recently for the first timre at an h.h. Gregg store.
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Post# 29784-5/20/2003-04:41 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: Duets, He3t's, and... (Modern appliances are off topic here)
MESSAGE: Since this is a site for classic appliances our webmaster created a Yahoo Group for discussing modern appliances and other off topic things. It's called the Applianceville Sandbox and if you are a Yahoo member you can easily subscribe to it. Did you know there is a thread about the LG on the That Home Site (gardenweb)?
Louis
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/
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Post# 29785-5/20/2003-11:16 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1950's ? Hotpoint kitchen setup and dishwasher (Very Nice!)
MESSAGE: I am shocked at how many of these have been popping up lately.
Where did you get this one Brian? Did you get it out of a house?
Are you going to use it?
It is in great shape.
Thanks for the pictures.
Brent
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Post# 29786-5/20/2003-12:07 ||| ProgramComputer (Lansing Mi, USA)
SUBJECT: Long Winded Comments on Previous Subjects
MESSAGE: Everyone,
Reason why my moms side of the family owned MOL Kenmore stuff is because they were mostly young and poor when they bought their first washers and dryers then when I was a youngin. The only person Uncle Joe was never able to convince was my Mom. My dad could have cared less about washers and dryers although he took our Bendix Duomatic when he moved out in 1984. But as I said before the dryer part was broken and it was out in the garage washing my dads shitty shop rags and just never paid it much mind. I had no idea that 20 years later I would sit here typing and convulsing that I diddn't pay MORE attention to it. I just liked to watch it slop the clothes around and around when I would sit in the kitchen and play as mom made dinner.
But Mom who had her 1979 SFTOL ( Second from top Of the Line) Maytag Automatics couldn't be swayed by Joe. My mom is somewhat like her's...but more strong and feministic...she gets EXACTLY what she asks for and want's. PERIOD.. Next sentence.
However to finish the first paragraph , most likely...without his "deals" or "screw-u's" as my grandma would say about ol "Uncle Joe", they would have owned nothing or the very basic crap stuff.
It's a long fam hist that my uncle and grandma loathed each other... He finally convincing her and "givin that deal" and selling my grandfather on the virtues of a mid line Kenmore dryer in 1959 after her first 1953 Kenmore Washer and dryer died. She was rankled that after they had spent ALL that money on a washer and dryer that they kept breaking down and had to be replaced by 59'.
But she had gotten "and she won't tell me how she got it" a 1959 Maytag "Highlander" without my grandpa's help that washed their stuff from 1959 to 1975 without one, zip zero,zilch problems "quote un quote". The dryer was repaired 23 times.
Ol Girl was so anal and hateful that she actually still today , has a notebook that she showed me with all the stuff that she had to do to her Kenmore stuff and what she had to do with her other stuff.
My mom told me that grandma used to hoard money out of what grandpa gave her so she could buy what she wanted not what he wanted her to have...ah postwar marrige opression at it's finest...
Anyway
She really diddn't HATE the 75's she just diddn't like them because she was always forced in a way to accept UnkieJo's ScrewU's an Junkers as she would say. I feel that as may many of you that the woman may well be criminally insane. Reason?
The woman had a Whirlpool Portable Dishwasher from about 64-65 with the flip top style lid. She had that until I was about 5 which would have made it about 1980. She loved that thing. She also had a Whirlpool Canister Vacuum With Powerhead that she bought in 1961. She had that until I was 6. and wouldn't give it to me to play with..i.e ( I never let her forget that) Then she got an Electrolux Silverado.
Weren't these all made for Sears too? Except the Lux!
Finally my grandpa gave up trying to get a good deal from his bro. and SearsRoebucks..and basically said nothing to keep the peace and his marrige as granny came into her own in the mid 80's...when J.W.Knapp's Department Stores delivered "her very own" Fabric-Matic Pair to her doorstep..that ol girl paid for with every penny of her own money...and those 75's were hauled probably to the dump...(I feel sick too guys).
I guess I never understood until now that people become brand retarded sometimes. You may never know whether the one machine that you like is possibly made by the same company that makes something you dont. Such as I never knew that Easy made Westinghouse's first Tl automatics. I think that's cool because my other Grandma BW (Before Westinghouse) had an Easy Spindrier and she almost works herself into tears because she liked that one best...and she too folks is also criminally insane.
Aren't all elders.
This is what I feel about Kenmores...they are cool you can find them still and they usually work very well still. That to me say's something. When in my first house, Joe found me a 1966 Lady Kenmore All Pushbutton Set in white. Yeah the dryer was slow, and the wig wag needed to be replaced, and the pump leaked until I had a new one installed....but all in all it washed for five guys for two years( roomates and myself)....until I got my Westinghouse Space Mates Set.
But at that time...that washer and dryer was 34 years old. Not bad in my book. Today That set rests quietly in my mom's basement with blankets over them unitl I get my basement refinished...then they will talke their rightful place Along with my beige 1-18 set which do not get used because i don't wan't them to break, next to my everyday Westinghouse set.
But Anyway That's all for now
Chad
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Post# 29787-5/21/2003-00:45 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1950's ? Hotpoint kitchen setup and dishwasher (Very Nice! (Hey Brent) and Brian)
MESSAGE: Brian, that machine is in remarkable condition. (Brent, those dishwashers were bu8ilt like tanks) Do the two racks slide out independly or not? From what I remember, there wasn't much information on the timer dial, just off and an arrow poiinting to on. Brent, did you see Brian's action pics & control panel pics of his 1959 or 1960 LK Combo washer/dryer? That's what I had next door to me for several years. Brian, were you ever able to repair that LK Combo and use it some more or is it still mothballed???
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Post# 29788-5/21/2003-00:53 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Long Winded Comments on Previous Subjects
MESSAGE: Chad thanks for all the wonderful stories in both posts. I loved them. Bob
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Post# 29789-5/21/2003-06:38 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: POD
MESSAGE: Could you see this dialogue happening today?
Kid: YO HO!
Mom: What you called me?
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Post# 29790-5/21/2003-08:51 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: 1950's ? Hotpoint kitchen setup and dishwasher (Very Nice! (Hey Brent) and Brian Yes I did!)
MESSAGE: Bob,
Yes I did see it. It is so nice.
I wish that Brian lived closer. Brian told me that he just relisted it for sale on this web. I would love to have any of the LK combo's.
Brent
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Post# 29791-5/21/2003-09:27 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: If my aunt heard me say that to my mom, she would have hit me so hard that I would have train tracks around my eyes!
LOL.
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Post# 29792-5/21/2003-09:30 ||| Dogface (Indianapolis)
SUBJECT: Sources for stove identification.
MESSAGE:
I just bought a brand new house, only built in 1941 (which, according to pinkie-in-the-air "registry" types isn't really worthy of being considered historical). We have decided to restore the house as much as we can (although it will take years, of course). Anyway, in the basement is a Kenmore gas stove. This has more doors and oddbits than I've ever personally seen on any stove. So far, I think one door opens into what was called a "boiler". There is a built-in griddle, and sliding panels can cover all the burners and a griddle. Unfortunately, all this tells me is "before 1960".
So where can I start researching to begin to figure out what model of Kenmore I have? My ultimate goal is to pull out the nasty stick-on wall to reveal the intact original tile and replace the plastic rolled floor in the kitchen and bring it back to its pre-WWII glory (any house built in Indianapolis in 1941 would have had to have been finished before December of 1941). This stove, restored, would probably function far better than the vast majority of "modern" stoves available. So my second step (step one is a good cleaning) is to identify the model.
Thanks.
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Post# 29793-5/21/2003-10:18 ||| RICKR (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Sources for stove identification.
MESSAGE: Sorry I can't help to "date" your range.Just want to give you a "congrats" on your historic home.Any home built before the 1970's is historic to me.Good luck to you! Rick Reader
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Post# 29794-5/21/2003-11:11 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Yes, but I don't think it was used in that context at the time of this ad, LOL
That could be little Bobby Appnut, or little Jonny Jetcone, in that picture! :-)
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Post# 29795-5/21/2003-11:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Sources for stove identification.
MESSAGE: Best wishes you you in your efforts! I think it's wonderful you want to restore this house to its proper era! Cleaned up, I bet that range would give you just as good if not better results than a newer model!
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Post# 29796-5/21/2003-11:26 ||| radiobill1966 (Indianapolis, IN)
SUBJECT: GE Transistor Radio
MESSAGE: In the form of a washing machine!
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2175712748&category=932
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Post# 29797-5/21/2003-12:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (ho ho ho)
MESSAGE: I knew that. Just wanted to play on it a little. Even until the early 80s. I guess the word 'HO' still didn't mean what it means today. Ho is what pirates and Santa said and it's also a garden tool. Words evolve over the years.
Notice the word COOL is the same since the 40s? You can today say something is COOL (like a GE Harmony set) and people know what your talking about.
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Post# 29798-5/21/2003-12:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: GE Transistor Radio
MESSAGE: I always thought Sears or Whirlpool should market a CD player shaped like an HE3t. The buttons would work and you load the CD in the door and watch it spin while playing.
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Post# 29799-5/21/2003-15:57 ||| Gentle696 (Fort Lauderdale)
SUBJECT: RE: Modern Maid/McGraw Edison built-in toaster? (Toaster)
MESSAGE: Are you still interested in selling this unit? Let me know.
Thank you,
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Post# 29800-5/21/2003-16:25 ||| may63 (Saint Paul, MN)
SUBJECT: Don't let this happen to you
MESSAGE: Once again, this would never happen with a Maytag.
LINK: http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3895227.html
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Post# 29801-5/21/2003-19:07 ||| arrrooohhh (Sydney Australia)
SUBJECT: RE: Don't let this happen to you
MESSAGE: COuld this little boy be a future member of applianceville?
What a tale to tell!
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Post# 29802-5/21/2003-19:13 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Don't let this happen to you
MESSAGE: Well, I fell in my grandma's 1960s Kenmore. I was sitting on it and my hand was close to where the lid switch was (center), my hand slipped and SPLASH!.. My arm was in and I grabbed hold of the agitator and pushed myself up.
I usually got away with stuff with my grandma but this time mom was called, I was ratted on and got spanked.
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Post# 29803-5/21/2003-20:02 ||| comboboy (Monticello, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: Don't let this happen to you
MESSAGE: so wait, getting spanked is bad?
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Post# 29804-5/21/2003-20:48 ||| oldappliancenut (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: RE: 1950's ? Hotpoint kitchen setup and dishwasher (Very Nice! (Hey Brent) and Brian)
MESSAGE: its still has a small leak in the pump the gasket is bad but still runs well the lk that is and the dishwasher racks are all one like the round ge i have it lifts off
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Post# 29805-5/21/2003-20:59 ||| notafixer (San Diego)
SUBJECT: RE: Don't let this happen to you (?)
MESSAGE: Newer maytags fill with water with the lid open don't they?!
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Post# 29806-5/21/2003-22:02 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (ho ho ho)
MESSAGE: Hey everyone, in honor of today's 1956 GE-Tide Picture of the Day advertisement I thought I would announce the good news on my '56 GE, it appears to work perfectly, which was a big surprise to me. Here is a shot of it running for the first time in years.
GE's First Wash in years
Here is the original picture I posted of the '56 when it was first found a few months ago...
The 1956 GE
And finally I'm happy to announce that after five long months of restoration, my 1951 Zenith console is done and now all three components are working perfectly. Here is a shot of it placed its new home in the living room. YAY, its time to go watch Bob Hope-Frigidaire Comedy hour on it.
My finished 1951 Zenith Console
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Post# 29807-5/21/2003-23:20 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Don't let this happen to you (?)
MESSAGE: Yup, they sure do. I always wondered why maytags never filled with the lid open. (until the last couple years anyway.) There obviously is no danger when the washer was filling. (unless someone burned themselves if the washer was filling with hot, or if a curious boy was staring at the washer.)
I always sat on our dryer when I was little, I loved how warm it was:-) And the hum of it.
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Post# 29808-5/21/2003-23:26 ||| golittlesport (California)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (ho ho ho)
MESSAGE: Thnaks for sharing Robert! Both the washer and entertainment center are fabulous! Wonderful that the GE works and needs little-to-no restoration. And the job you have done on the TV is outstanding. I stand in awe!
Rich
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Post# 29809-5/22/2003-00:28 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD
MESSAGE: Scott, so nice of you to remember Jon & myself having this type/age of washer growing up. And it's an honor to be mentioned in the same paragraph with Jon.
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Post# 29810-5/22/2003-07:15 ||| mulls (Johnson City,Tn)
SUBJECT: Norge POD
MESSAGE: 5 way rinsing.....
1-overflow during last part of wash
2-spray rinse
3-deep rinse
4-overflow during deep rinse
5-spray rinse final spin
Good guess?
Tom
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Post# 29811-5/22/2003-08:22 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (ho ho ho)
MESSAGE: Great news about the GE, Robert. Thanks for sharing the photo. And the console is a beauty as well. Are you rearranging the basement to put the 51, 56 and 58 GE's together? Maybe next time you'll locate a 57 washer to match your dryer.
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Post# 29812-5/22/2003-08:39 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (ho ho ho)
MESSAGE: Hi Lesto, actually I'm starting to move my entire collection out of the basement and into a storage facility. We are beginning our search for a larger house.
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Post# 29813-5/22/2003-09:05 ||| Brent-Aucoin (Atlanta, Georgia)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Robert, You have been so Busy!)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Do you ever rest?
I love your 1951 Zenith Console! It is so lovely, and looks so good in your house! You are such a talent! Not only would I love to watch the television, I would LOVE to hear it play records. That would be such a treat!
The GE was great also. I can't get over that it ran that well. I guess back then they were built to last. Like you said when you go it, you thought that it had very little use. That might be the case.
Moving all of your machines into Storage? I hope that you guys are not doing all of that alone. I guess you are doing it a little at a time.
Best of luck on the search for a new home! I wish that you were looking in Atlanta!
Thanks for all of the swell pictures.
Brent
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Post# 29814-5/22/2003-10:44 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (ho ho ho)
MESSAGE: WOW! The Zenith console is really beautiful! .....and did I spot a Magnavox hi-fi in the corner? Child, you really got it goin on!!! Mark
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Post# 29815-5/22/2003-11:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (ho ho ho)
MESSAGE: Thanks guys and no, there are just two of us moving my washer collection, me and Ms. Escalarea (my motorized appliance mover), I wouldn't put anyone else through all that trouble. I'm just doing it a few machines at a time anway.
Hey Mark, actually that is a '56 Zenith Hi-Fi in the corner.
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Post# 29816-5/22/2003-12:59 ||| peteski50 (New York)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (POD)
MESSAGE: Robert,
Real nice GE and TV
Hope you are doing well
Peter
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Post# 29817-5/22/2003-13:28 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Ms. Escalara)
MESSAGE: Gotta love those girls for moving appliances in and out of basements, mine is a little tired and worn, the poor dear, but she's a trooper just the same. I think she "has a past."
Your TV looks wonderful, how many hours do you think you have in that project? It was worth every minute, it's beautiful and I'm sure works perfectly! Congrats on another job well done!
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Post# 29818-5/22/2003-14:01 ||| Superduty (Wilmington NC)
SUBJECT: RE: Don't let this happen to you
MESSAGE: I once got into trouble by putting my best friend in the GE
He held on tight to the as I started the spin cycle....
Mom walked right in and caught me!
Rich
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Post# 29819-5/22/2003-14:25 ||| lesto (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (ho ho ho)
MESSAGE: I hope you find a house that you like soon so all of your wonderful machines won't have to stay in storage for very long. I imagine you're shopping for a house with a basement that has an easily accesible outside door so you don't have to deal with the stairs like you do at your present house. I'm sure you'll have a great looking new basement and another fun color scheme. Keep me posted.
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Post# 29820-5/22/2003-16:48 ||| RICKR (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (ho ho ho)
MESSAGE: Cool Zenith theatre system! We used to sell RCA and Zenith,at the appliance store I worked at when I was in high school/college.It has the Cobra-matic record changer no doubt. I restored a Magnavox hi fi from the early 50's this past winter.They were built right here in Ft. Wayne you see.
Good luck on your house searching,Are you looking for a period home again?
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Post# 29821-5/22/2003-19:40 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (ho ho ho Robert:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Robert, what a great Combo unit and a wonderful era, with a Beautiful Cabinet. I have the Cabinet of a 40s era Magnavox Radio/Phono, but unfortunately I did a real stupid thing. I was cleaning out a long time ago some items in my Garage of that time and I accidentally got the Radio and Phono Unit Components in the Trash Pile, instead of the "To-Keep" Pile and got rid of them, before even ever realizing what I had done. I plan to at least clean-up the Cabinet and are going to use it as originally planned, after my traumatic happening, into a Storage Cabinet and possibly creating another Extension Speaker for my Stereo, or a small Lowery Starlet Organ my Parent's bought for me, when I was 15-years old. At this time,as with lots of other "Treasure's" it is in Storage, until I can get my Garage and house cleaned out.
Now to ask my curiousity about your "Ms. Escalarea" (my motorized appliance mover). I'm assuming I understand what it does, but is there any way that you might post a Picture of it on the site to show those of us who haven't seen one before? Does it basically operate similar to a Conveyor, except up and down Stairs, to raise or lower Appliance's in and out of Basements?
Take care until later, I hope that you don't overdue yourself doing all of that by yourself. Isn't any of the Guy's living close to you, who might be able to lend a hand?
Big Teddy Bear Hugs, Steve...
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Post# 29822-5/22/2003-20:08 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: 1986 LK Electronic-Control Dryer Available For LIMITED TIME
MESSAGE: A friend of mine has the aforementioned dryer. It went dead a few days ago. She has a replacement coming tomorrow (5/23/2003) from Lowe's. They'll haul the busted one to the KRUSHER, unless somebody wants it. Sorry for the short notice, I just found out about it this evening.
Contact her at brendabb@awesomenet.net ASAP if you are interested.
Lady Kenmore Dryer
Lady Kenmore model tag
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Post# 29823-5/22/2003-20:15 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1986 LK Electronic-Control Dryer Available For LIMITED TIME
MESSAGE: I spy a GE washer in that pic.
Looks like it could match my GE dryer.
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Post# 29824-5/22/2003-21:31 ||| Foodarama (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: looking for dishwasher info
MESSAGE: Hi all. New to the site but definitely feel like a part of the crowd. My partner and I have begun our small collection of stoves, refrigerators and have just acquired our first classic dishwasher. Would anyone out there have any idea where I could find the manufacture date of a Kitchenaid dishwasher by the Hobart Manufacturing Co, Troy, OH? The serial number is B23262 and the Model number is KDI-15. It seems to be a late 1950's or early 60's vintage but I would like to pinpoint the date. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
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Post# 29825-5/22/2003-21:45 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1986 LK Electronic-Control Dryer Available For LIMITED TIME
MESSAGE: NASTY & FUNKY are two adjectives that come to mind.
Send that thing to the crusher and put it out of its misery!
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Post# 29826-5/22/2003-22:03 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 1986 LK Electronic-Control Dryer Available For LIMITED TIME
MESSAGE: Kinda in bad shape wouldn't you say? What's that junk on top? Rust?
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Post# 29827-5/22/2003-22:18 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: 1986 LK Electronic-Control Dryer Available For LIMITED TIME
MESSAGE: Oh come on you guy's! What do you expect? It could be cleaned up and restored,or used for parts!What about the electronic control head? Some people rebuild stuff thats been sitting outside for 20 years.The 1961 Whirlpool washer I restored this winter didn't look too much better than this dryer to start with.It's mighty fine now though!(-:
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Post# 29828-5/22/2003-23:50 ||| jetaction (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: 1-18 Gas dryer joins the family
MESSAGE: Picked up a 1-18 Gas dryer, DG-1 today. Although I have not connected it up to the gas yet, it runs well and quiet. Asked Jimmy about the "Delicate" marking on the auto cycle because I don't understand why it is between the "Heavy" and "Regular/Knits, Perm Press" markings. Wouldn't you think they would read in reverse? Anyone know about that strange set up?
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Post# 29829-5/23/2003-00:15 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: looking for dishwasher info
MESSAGE: Hi and welcome - the 15 series of Kitchen Aid was manufactured from 1965 through 1968.
Have you tried it out yet?
Best of luck - Greg
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Post# 29830-5/23/2003-00:47 ||| Gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Gas dryer joins the family
MESSAGE: Congrats on another cool find, Don.
This dryer has an interesting thermostatic control system. The operating thermostat has it's own heating source to essentially "fool" the thermostat into thinking that the circulating air temp in the drum is warmer than it actually is. When you select the delicate setting on the heat selector switch, the thermostat will maintain the drum's temperature approximately 20 degrees (F) cooler than the normal operating temp of 150F. Because the timer motor only runs toward "OFF" position in the auto cycle when the heat is off, the delicate cycle position on the dial allows for more time for the dryer to cycle the heat on and off at the lower temp and ensure the whole load gets dry.
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Post# 29831-5/23/2003-03:01 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: "POD" Maytag's:
MESSAGE: Hi! Dear Club Friend's, does anyone know if this Push-Button Washer is the same year Model as used in the Beverly Hillbilly's or an older Model? It looks like it is older than the one in the Show to me. I'll bet that Mark knows {lightedcontrols}...
By the way, the GE Washer on a few days ago's "POD" is just like the one my Folk's Neighbor bought new that had a Blue Cabinet and a Pink Top on it, when she bought it. The Store where she bought it had another Washer being delivered, that had a damaged Top, which was Blue Cabinet and Top and they traded the Top's and when she came in looking for a Washer, since her's sat in the Garage, she did't care what Color the Cabinet or Top was, as long as it would do the Laundry. I believe her GE Washer was the same year Model as the one on the "POD" the other day.
I think it is great to see so many more new people Posting Messages and all of the help each other is giving to help find Parts and letting other's know about Washer's and Dryer's being gotten rid of and trying to find new home's through our Club Member's.
I'm also glad to see all of our long-time Club Member's continued Posting's as well too. Keep up the good work, I look forward in reading more Posting's from other Member's too.
I wish everyone well and are having some decent Weather.
Best Regards and Big Sacto Teddy Bear Hugs, Steve...
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Post# 29832-5/23/2003-04:13 ||| surge'nsubmerge (Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Maytag's: (POD)
MESSAGE: Yes; it is..at least it LOOKS like the same one in the Clampett household.
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Post# 29833-5/23/2003-06:28 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: looking for dishwasher info (KA DW date ??)
MESSAGE: I too recently acquired a portable top-load Kitchen Aid KDY-4P it has the cast iron spray arm in the bottom and there is no other "date" info on the machine, I am guessing early sixties ?? Any help appreciated here as well ... ...
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Post# 29834-5/23/2003-06:29 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: looking for dishwasher info (KA DW date ??)
MESSAGE: I too recently acquired a portable top-load Kitchen Aid KDY-4P it has the cast iron spray arm in the bottom and there is no other "date" info on the machine, I am guessing early sixties ?? Any help appreciated here as well ... ...
I also will need a new motor as well as a new drain motor which I realized is separate when I took it apart underneath.
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Post# 29835-5/23/2003-06:32 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Gas dryer joins the family (congrads AND ...)
MESSAGE: Congrads Don !! I found a DCD-65 Frigidaire dryer in turquoise and it seems to work fine except for this constant banging like there is something loose or being picked up and dropped. I need to dissassemble the cabinet I think to find the problem. best wishes ... ...
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Post# 29836-5/23/2003-08:27 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Ms. Escalara)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg I couldn't even begin to calculate how many hours I have in the Zenith project. All I know is I started in October and I finished up in early May, oy, but it was a lot of fun and now I get to watch all my favorite old tv shows and commercials on it.
As for the Escalara, I don't have a pict handy at the moment but here is one from a Escalara distributor...
LINK: http://www.advancedhandling.com/stair_climbing_trucks/stairclimbing_handtrucks.HTM
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Post# 29837-5/23/2003-08:29 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (ho ho ho)
MESSAGE: Hi Rick, we are open to any kind of home as long as it has a LARGE open basement and a LARGE kitchen for lots of appliances!
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Post# 29838-5/23/2003-09:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: Aliens show good appliance taste
MESSAGE: Jason will like this one... The mystery washer and dryer on the TV show "3rd Rock From The Sun" are a harvest gold Kenmore 800 pair... Got a good look at them in last night's midnight rerun (Sally gets hooked on cosmetics, Mary goes away on retreat and Dick get love sick)...
-ph
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Post# 29839-5/23/2003-09:38 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (excellent)
MESSAGE: Great news Robert! Both look great! Did you have to do anything to the washer, or was it a "plug and play"?
-ph
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Post# 29840-5/23/2003-09:40 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Gas dryer joins the family
MESSAGE: Congrats Don! The auto-dry cycle on the 1-18 dryers is the first and only auto-dry cycle I have used that actually worked to my liking. Got to love that huge drum too!
-ph
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Post# 29841-5/23/2003-09:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Maytag's:
MESSAGE: The picture looks strange to me... It's funny that they didn't have the matching button dryer...
-ph
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Post# 29842-5/23/2003-10:55 ||| foodarama (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: looking for dishwasher info
MESSAGE: Thanks Greg! I really appreciate the information. The model is a little later than I thought but it's still going to fit in great. We were actually given the dishwasher by a couple of friends who had been using it for the last five years. They just pulled it out and replaced it last week as part of a kitchen renovation.
They told us the only real unique thing in it's installation will be that it is a bottom draining dishwasher so we just have to reroute a little plumbing.
Thanks again for everything.
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Post# 29843-5/23/2003-11:18 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Gas dryer joins the family (congrads AND ...)
MESSAGE: It's the good ghost of Norge, coming to visit you Greg! ;-)
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Post# 29844-5/23/2003-11:20 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Maytag's:
MESSAGE: Peter, it's my understanding that there was no all-button dryer when the all-button washer first came out, it followed later on.
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Post# 29845-5/23/2003-11:40 ||| davy1063 (Pennsylvania)
SUBJECT: CyberMuseum
MESSAGE: Any word on when the Museum will be updated??
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Post# 29846-5/23/2003-11:44 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: CyberMuseum
MESSAGE: Since Robert is getting ready to move and putting his house in order, I'd say it'll be awhile before we see any new updates...
-ph
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Post# 29847-5/23/2003-11:54 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: CyberMuseum (Cyber-Museum, what's a CyberMuseum)
MESSAGE: Ask me again in 2007 :)
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Post# 29848-5/23/2003-12:00 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (excellent)
MESSAGE: Hi Peter,
No I didn't do a thing to the washer. But I suspect something will rear its ugly head before long. The owner's son told me his mother stop using it when it broke down and they had been going to a laundromat ever since.
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Post# 29849-5/23/2003-12:44 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Maytag's:
MESSAGE: The all button dryer came about in 1964 or 65.
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Post# 29850-5/23/2003-13:29 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: looking for dishwasher info (KA DW date ??)
MESSAGE: About 1964-65.
Sounds very cool - congrats on the finds, your basement must be getting stuffed with appliances!
More pictures soon?
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Post# 29851-5/23/2003-13:37 ||| dalangdon (Seattle, WA)
SUBJECT: POD for Friday
MESSAGE: I'd like to point out that today's POD is especially appropriate as we enter Memorial Day Weekend. Break out your whites (and don't forget your gloves and big round purses!) and have a lovely long weekend everyone!
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Post# 29852-5/23/2003-13:47 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (Ms. Escalara)
MESSAGE: Hi! Robert, thank you for the Pix of the Escalara, it actually looks like my Refrigerator Hand-Truck, but I don't have the Motorized one like yours. Mine also has a make-shift Strap tightener, because when it was given to me, the Ratchet Handle was broken off, so I took a piece of Rope and tied an
Opened-End Wrench onto the lower part of the Shaft where the Strap is hooked onto the Hand-Truck and I tighten it with the Wrench. "Works for me"
The Refrigerator Hand-Truck was given to me by a Company that went out of business here, that I worked for in a short time and the Owner gave me that and as many Washers and Dryers I wanted, instead of paying me for my time. I was about Mid-20s then and that also "worked for me" too.
Take care until later, good luck on yuor house hunting.
Big Sacto Teddy Bear Hugs, Steve
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Post# 29853-5/23/2003-14:29 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Maytag's: (Maytag Pushbutton Dryer)
MESSAGE: The 1970's model (DE-906 (elec); DG-906 (gas) if memory serves) had only a couple of working buttons -- "Regular", "Damp Dry", "Permanent Press", and "Air Fluff" (and possibly one for "start") that were centered between several "buttons" that were clearly non-functional.
BTW, a friend of my mother's had the 1970's push button washer (A-906, again if memory serves) she used to complain that it was "too automatic".
Mike
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Post# 29854-5/23/2003-15:17 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Gas dryer joins the family (congrads AND ...)
MESSAGE: the banging is not that loud ......... (hahaha)
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Post# 29855-5/23/2003-15:18 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: looking for dishwasher info (KA DW date ??)
MESSAGE: yes, pics will come soon.........
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Post# 29856-5/23/2003-15:21 ||| COLDSPOT66 (South of Boston, Mass)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Maytag's: (Maytag Pushbutton Dryer)
MESSAGE: Hey all,
Those 906 Maytag Washers were VERY automatic. Since I repair appliances for a living, I had a chance to see one in person. Someone had given it to me and I rebuilt it and sold it. It had all pushbuttons that really limited your selections. Only 2 buttons allowed a partial water fill; there was no seperate water level control. All other cycles used a full tub of water. There was no way to adjust ANYTHING. Speed and time were preset and you could not advance the cycle manually. It really was only a 2 speed 2 cycle washer. Wool and delicate cycle was a modified normal cycle with shortened wash/soak time and slower speed. It also did not indicate the progress through the cycle. It truly was a pushbutton start. Just depressing the desired cycle button advanced the timer to the start of the cycle. The only flexibility was using the rinse & spin button or damp dry button just to get a drain and spin. It had a very complicated timer. The timer was bad on the machine I had. After final spin, it would jump to the next cycle, bypassing the 'off' increment. Otherwise it was your usual Maytag washer. Mine had a deep tub with bleach disp and fabric softener disp in the agitator with that famous crappy lint filter. I liked the tub light and console light best!
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Post# 29857-5/23/2003-17:34 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Maytag's: (Maytag Pushbutton Dryer)
MESSAGE: Hi Mike - I have this same set you are talking about in a 1967 vintage. Here are some pics of the machines when I first brought them home. I've been using these machines for three years with no major trouble, a few adjustments here and there and I added a 50hz pulley to the washer to get a faster agitation and spin. I'm currently in the process of replacing a couple of wire terminal ends on the electronic dry control unit and the dryer should be humming again soon.
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/vwp?.dir=/Maytag&.src=ph&.dnm=Maytag+Washer+A906.jpg&.view=t&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/gansky1/lst%3f%26.dir=/Maytag%26.src=ph%26.view=t
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Post# 29858-5/23/2003-17:38 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Maytag's: (Maytag Pushbutton Dryer)
MESSAGE: Yes, they are beautiful but limiting for us "dial pushers."
I don't think most women had too much trouble turning on their appliances...it's not THAT hard. Another fine example of engineers coming up with a solution for problem that didn't exist.
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Post# 29859-5/23/2003-22:31 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Maytag's: (Maytag Pushbutton Dryer)
MESSAGE: Hi Greg,
Thanks for sharing. I especially like the picture of the washer and dryer lit up in the dark. I always thought that the 906 series were very interesting machines. Mrs. Lictenberg's washer was in her kitchen, so I got to see it operate more than once. I always wanted to start it, but never got the opportunity.
Thanks again,
Mike
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Post# 29860-5/23/2003-23:22 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (ho ho ho storing collection)
MESSAGE: Robert, I think I know the answer, but what machine and dryer will you leave there to do the family wash with until the house is sold?
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Post# 29861-5/23/2003-23:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: POD (ho ho ho (storage))
MESSAGE: I have a great idea Robert, how about storing a Unimatic in my laundry room!!!
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Post# 29862-5/23/2003-23:31 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Gas dryer joins the family
MESSAGE: Don, Frigidaire had Delicate between Heavy & Regular on their auto dry dryers for a long time. Their logic was that on low heat, delicate items took longer to dry than regular or Perm Press, which used the regular/high heat. Bob
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Post# 29863-5/23/2003-23:36 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Gas dryer joins the family
MESSAGE: Oh boy Peter, that's saying something given you've never wanted to use auto dry cycles b4. Bob
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Post# 29864-5/23/2003-23:56 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: EBAY BIDDING ON CLASSIC PARTS!
MESSAGE: Hey you guys! Those Frigidaire washer bellows are STILL available through parts store at much less than you are bidding on them on ebay for! Mark
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Post# 29865-5/24/2003-05:14 ||| foraloysius (Groningen, The Netherlands, Europe)
SUBJECT: RE: CyberMuseum (Cyber-Museum, what's a CyberMuseum)
MESSAGE: Besides the Cybermuseum on this site there are quite a few members who have their own cybermuseum. Go to the memberlinks and start exploring! Here's mine, open 24/7.
Robert, I guess you are looking for a basement with a house? Good hunting, hope you find something nice where you and Neal feel at home soon. BTW, how is Gladys?
Regards,
Louis
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/foraloysius/
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Post# 29866-5/24/2003-10:26 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: CyberMuseum (Cyber-Museum, what's a CyberMuseum)
MESSAGE: If Gladys ever had babies would you call them
Gladys Knight and the PUPS?
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Post# 29867-5/24/2003-16:36 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Gas dryer joins the family
MESSAGE: Indeed! Even on my beloved GE dryers, I was never pleased with the auto-dry. Same with Maytag and WP machines I've used/had. The 1-18 gave me perfect results every time -- even with loud banging!
-h
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Post# 29868-5/24/2003-16:37 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Gas dryer joins the family (congrads AND ...)
MESSAGE: ... as long as it is vigorous and you get the right results in the end...
-ph
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Post# 29869-5/24/2003-18:56 ||| JAKINS (Kissimmee, Fl.)
SUBJECT: Finally Delivered Westy Twins
MESSAGE: Hi Guys
After winning these on Ebay about a year ago I finally have my westy twins. I would realy like some help from the Applianceville Members who have done restorations on these esp. the door seal That I have seen some of you replace. I will need the part # for that if anyone has it. I went through the washer systems today and everything else seems OK. The speed control works fine as well as the pump and timer. Will need new belts also. I Will of course need to wait for a wile for the water tight test. Tomorrow I will check out the dryer. Any help you guys can give would be great.
thanks
John
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/jakins2001/lst?.dir=/GENERAL+ELECTRIC+DISHWASHER&.view=t
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Post# 29870-5/24/2003-21:14 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally Delivered Westy Twins
MESSAGE: Hi John- Congrats on the Westinghouse set finally arriving! Was it a shipping delay that took them so long to get to you? At least you have them and they look to be in pretty good shape too. Here are the pictures I posted of the new boot install that I did on my L5 washer a couple of years ago. Since I didn't have the original replacement door boot (#Q4688) for this machine I had to retro-fit a modern style boot from a straight-front WCI front loader which is still available. It isn't a perfect fit, but not noticeable when the machine is running and it gave life back to a wonderful classic machine.
Best of luck with your new twins, keep us posted with the progress and we'll be glad to help any way we can!
Greg
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/thesheerlook/lst?.dir=/Westinghouse+Laundromat+L5+Restoration&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/thesheerlook/vwp%3f.dir=/Westinghouse%2bLaundromat%2bL5%2bRestoration%26.dnm=Oldies%2bbut%2bgoodies!.jpg%26.src=ph&.view=t
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Post# 29871-5/24/2003-21:34 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally Delivered Westy Twins
MESSAGE: John, congratulations on them finally getting to their new home. They're a handsome pair. Good luck with the restoration. When that's done and they're up and running, please add more action pics of both the washer & dryer. (I'd love to see a pic taken of the dryer in the dark so that one can see the heating coils glowing in the dark that are so conveniently located in the front). Was my favorite thing to do with westy dryers when I had a chance LOL.
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Post# 29872-5/24/2003-22:54 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally Delivered Westy Twins
MESSAGE: Hi John,
Congrats! Thank you for sharing and for being able to save those wonderful machines. Good luck on the repairs. Hopefully, there'll be nothing majorly wrong with the dryer. (Toes and fingers crossed!) Can't wait to see the "after" pics.
Thanks again,
Mike
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Post# 29873-5/25/2003-00:21 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: CyberMuseum (Possible House Find)
MESSAGE: Hi Louis, Gladys is just fine she is about to turn 1 year old and she sure does behave like a one year old, lucky for her she's cute. :)
We found a possible house this weekend with a kitchen large enough to squeeze two dishwashers in as well as a 40" range. It has a four bedrooms, a fireplace, beautiful wood floors and most importantly a 1200 square foot unfinished basement, that's 400 more square feet than I have now. The house was built in '32 which would make it a youngin' compared to my 1923 house now. Its only about a mile away from our house now. We're thinking this one over seriously.
Oy I can't tell you all how tired I am right now, today I moved sixteen washers into storage all by my little self, more goes tomorrow. Calgonite take me away!
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Post# 29874-5/25/2003-00:24 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Finally Delivered Westy Twins
MESSAGE: John your Westinghouse set is just beautiful. Slant front Westinghouse sets from the 40's thru the 50's definitely have to win an award for beautiful retro styling. Congrats on your new babies. Your dryer looks like its a "How Dry I Am Dryer". Keep us posted.
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Post# 29875-5/25/2003-00:26 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: POD 05/25--Bendix
MESSAGE: THAT"s IT. That's the matching washer & dryer my "grandparents" had that also had the youngstown kitchens dishwasher with the red racks.
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Post# 29876-5/25/2003-00:30 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: CyberMuseum (Possible House Find)
MESSAGE: Robert, thanks for the update. Keep us posted. Sounds like lots of possiblities. And a 40" range, Hmm. Bob
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Post# 29877-5/25/2003-09:28 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Gas dryer joins the family (Auto dry & Bounce)
MESSAGE: If you use fabric softner sheets (like Bounce) they tend to coat the humidity sensors so the auto-dry cycle will not work well.
Another good reason to use liquid fabric softner (in the washer) instead.
Ken D.
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Post# 29878-5/25/2003-10:44 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Help! (won't spin...)
MESSAGE: It has taken a year for the photos to be developed, but here it is.....
LINK: http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/cleanteamofny/lst?&.dir=/Friend+portable&.src=bc&.view=t&.begin=1&.order=&.done=http%3a//briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/cleanteamofny/lst%3f%26.dir=/Friend%2bportable%26.src=bc%26.view=t
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Post# 29879-5/25/2003-11:34 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: Kenmore 800 set 1967
MESSAGE: Hey Everyone! Yesterday I went to a few estate sales.Didn't find anything interesting at the sales,but did come across a matching set of Kenmore 800 series in avacodo,at a church sale.They cost $5.00 each so of course I bought them.The paint on them is not the best,but the chrome is great and they are not rusty at all.I decided these would be perfect to rebuild,and have a auto body shop repaint in tourquoise.I "gutted" them compleatly yesterday afternoon.The empty cabinets,lid,door,etc. will be taken to the paint shop next week,and the rest of the parts I will overhaul in my garage in the meantime.I'm really exited about finding this set,as I have been looking for the an excuse to do this anyway!I took a few photos of them torn down,and will post them this coming week. Cheers to all! Rick
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Post# 29880-5/25/2003-12:09 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore 800 set 1967
MESSAGE: Congratulations, what fun! Is the 1967 800 the one with the sliding control panel cover, like in the POD yesterday or day before?
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Post# 29881-5/25/2003-12:38 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Help! (AWESOME!)
MESSAGE: That might be an earlier model than mine or it looks like a higher model. Mine doesn't have a SHORT cycle, it has a prewash which has a 4 minute wash time and a normal speed rinse and spin.
Is that one a Lady Kenmore or just Kenmore?
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Post# 29882-5/25/2003-12:40 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore 800 set 1967 (800s what a dream set)
MESSAGE: I can't wait to see pics. This is gonna be groovy. Born in the summer of love.
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Post# 29883-5/25/2003-12:55 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore 800 set 1967
MESSAGE: Rick, congratulations. Hope Jasonl donesn't have a heart attack though.
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Post# 29884-5/25/2003-13:31 ||| rickr (Fort Wayne)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore 800 set 1967
MESSAGE: The control panel on these do not have the sliding cover.The panel is vertical and flat. (sort of like a 50's G.E.) And the light above it the full width of the panel.The washer has pushbuttons for the water temps.And the dryer has a brushed metal finish lint cover,with the scent bottle.The control panel has the same vertical layout as the washer,and features a lighted panel,and drum. As I tore them down yesterday,I noticed the date 10/67 stamped on the water level control valve.The spin basket is a solid white,and It has the Roto-swirl adj. with the detergent measuring cup on top.This is a very nice set.I gave the people from the church an extra $25.00 on top of the $10.00,as they were kind enough to even deliver them to my home! Rick
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Post# 29885-5/25/2003-13:57 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Help! (AWESOME!)
MESSAGE: It's a Lady Kenmore and the model number is 110.74491600
She's a nice little old lady and the spin cycle is a lot better than the direct drive system for this type of machine.
I will be going back to my friend house late this evening and I will take the tranny off to see if the basket drive is worn and if it is, replacement of this unit may solve the no-spin in any cycle problem...
Wish me luck!
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Post# 29886-5/25/2003-14:01 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: Kenmore 800 set 1967
MESSAGE: You are Blessed!
Photos please!!!
I'm just like everyone in this club who want to see that set!
Have fun and enjoy the pair!
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Post# 29887-5/25/2003-18:54 ||| Big-frankie (Toronto)
SUBJECT: PLEASE RESPOND - DISHWASHER QUESTION
MESSAGE: I have a "Kitchenaid Suberba V by Hobart" dishwasher from the early-mid 80s which still works flawlessly and I'm sure will continue to work for decades to come. I am buying a new Kitchenaid fridge and stove in stainless steel and would like matching stainless steel panels for the old dishwasher (which came with 3 front & back panels to provide for 6 different color options). Would anyone know where I should go to get panels in stainless steel to match the new Kitchenaid products?
Thanks
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Post# 29888-5/25/2003-19:06 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: PLEASE RESPOND - DISHWASHER QUESTION (Stainless steel source)
MESSAGE: Hi Big Frankie,
Check out this e-bay store.
Steve1-18
LINK: http://www.stores.ebay.com/id=32473936
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Post# 29889-5/25/2003-19:13 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: Another Frigidaire!!!!!
MESSAGE: Picked up another Frigidaire FL. This one was manufactured 1/97. The only problem I can see, so far, is it leaks from the door. Needs a new boot.
Checked a few sites on the net and the cheapest I could find was $114. WOW!
Anyone know where I can get one for less?
I'll call Fox in the morning and check with sears, too.
Phillipe: Do you have one from the FL'er you trashed?
Steve 1-18
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Post# 29890-5/25/2003-20:42 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: PLEASE RESPOND - DISHWASHER QUESTION (another link)
MESSAGE: Try this one, too
Steve1-18
LINK: http://kitchensource.com/kau/frigo.htm
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Post# 29891-5/26/2003-00:26 ||| gansky1 (Omaha, NE)
SUBJECT: RE: PLEASE RESPOND - DISHWASHER QUESTION
MESSAGE: Take a set of the panels out of your front panel frames and have stainless cut to size at a local metal shop, check the yellow pages for a resource. A friend of mine did this for a D&M/Kenmore dishwasher in a rental house and paid less than $40 for much better quality stainless than is even used on new appliances.
Good luck - Greg
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Post# 29892-5/26/2003-10:32 ||| Jmm63 (Verona, NJ)
SUBJECT: 69 or 70 Lady Kenmore
MESSAGE: I'm looking for any advertisments or photos of Lady Kenmore washer and dryers from possibly 69 or 70 to add to my photo wall in my laundry room. My mom had a set in "Coppertone" up until about 8 years ago, I think it was a Model 700 or 800? I'm also looking for any photos or info on another Lady K, probably from the early 60's that a neighbor had. I remember a backlit consol with lots a pushbuttons surrounding a dial on the right side, It was a sudsaver too. Any info anyone has would be great.
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Post# 29893-5/26/2003-23:17 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 69 or 70 Lady Kenmore
MESSAGE: Jim Welcome to the club. Wow, your mom was lucky to have that set up until just so recently. I hope someone here can help, like Charles Kelly Jr. Please tell us what other photos of machines you have in your laundry room??
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Post# 29894-5/27/2003-03:12 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: He's here, my mystery date!
MESSAGE: I waited months to make the trip to Rochester, NY and it was well worth the wait!
This past Friday I've made the trip all the way to Rochester, NY and back and I could not believe that this was a solid basket Frigidaire washer waiting for me after a long hard winter!
I've plugged it up this morning and took it for a spin and I am very impressed how much water was removed from my shirt that I've taken off my back to compare to the spin cycle of my DD Kenmore and with hands down, the Frigidaire wins!
The model number is :WCDAL
And the serial number is: 29 vd 8446
Could someone tell me what year this was made?
Also I've noticed that the wash temperature is only hot and warm, with warm and cold rinses but no cold wash.....,
I wonder why?
Anyway, I would like to know if the dispenser underneath the agitator cap is a bleach dispenser or is it used for only detergent?
Plus, I must thank Imperial Bob for selling me the fabric softener dispenser. That flying saucer fits and its out of this world! Bless your big heart man!!!
And now my father questioned me two days ago, "what am I'm doing with all those machines?"
:-)) Only if he knew!?!?
LINK: http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/cleanteamofny/vwp?.dir=/New+Arrival&.dnm=My+first+Frigidaire+(WCDAL).jpg&.src=ph&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/bc/cleanteamofny/vwp%3f.dir=/New%2bArrival%26.dnm=The%2bControl%2bTop.jpg%26.src=ph
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Post# 29895-5/27/2003-03:57 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: He's here, my mystery date! (Re: Washer Year/Model and Pulsator Cup Use:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Larry, this Frigidaire Washer is a 1967 Year/Model Washer. I know that for a fact, because my Parent's had a "WCDK" Frigidaire Custom Deluxe Washer and the last Letter of the Model Number is the Year, at least through the Mid to Late 60s and they ran consecutively. The Cup inside the Pulsator is the Bleach Cup. Place the Laundry in the Tub, then add the Detergent placing it inside the Pulsator, before placing the Cup inside the Pulsator, then lock-down the Cap onto the Pulsator.
Does it have the Window on the Lid? It looks like it is the "Gold-Crown" series limited edition Model, because they had a little different Console look to those Model's and they also had the Window in the Lid. From the Pix viewed, it looks great, congratulation's on the new addition to your Washer and Dryer Family. Be sure to keep us informed on progress of the Washer and how it is doing. Does it need any attention to it, or is it all ready to totally operate and clean your Laundry now?
Good Luck with it Larry, take care until later.
Big Sacto Teddy Bear Hugs, Steve...
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Post# 29896-5/27/2003-04:26 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: He's here, my mystery date! (Re: Frigidaire Water Temp:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Larry, I forgot to mention that some of the Model's didn't have the Cold/Cold Selection, although my Parent's Custom Deluxe did have all Selection's and it had the separate control's for the Temp, Speed and Water Level. Since they are Timed Controlled Water Filling, do you know that your Water Pressure can make a difference as to how much Water will Fill into the Washer. Naturally, you can adjust it by setting the Washer to the Fabric Soil Level that you want to use, Start and immediately stop the Timer, advance it
1-increment and start it again and it will "Fool" the Washer into thinking that it was originally set at the beginning of that particular Soil Level Setting and it will lessen the length of time of Filling. The Washer does normally have a 1-minute rest after filling on the Wash Cycle, then it goes into the Pulsation to start the Washing. It will still overflow on the Wash and the Rinse, unless you use the Small Load. Also on the Small Load, the Timer run's in 1/2 minute incriment's to allow the difference for the filling on the Small Water Level. It also shorten's the time of the Wash and Rinse. What I used to do for a Small Load, was I would let the Washer fill up then turn the Water Level to Full, so it would give the longer Wash Time, then I would set it to the Small, when the Overflow would start, before the Spin, before the Rinse Cycle. I would then set it back to Small to fill for the Rinse, then Full Load for the Longer Rinse. My Parent's Frigidaire on the Small Level would fill until just almost overflowing and then stopping, to get ready for the Spin, after the Wash or Rinse. Happy Laundring and good luck with it Larry.
B-T-B-H's, Steve...
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Post# 29897-5/27/2003-05:16 ||| steve1-18 (Grovetown, GA)
SUBJECT: In the News
MESSAGE: Here is an article that made it to the Augusta paper.
Steve1-18
Police rescue child trapped in washer
Web posted Sunday, May 25, 2003 | Associated Press
POMONA, Calif. -- A 2-year-old girl was rescued from a locked, running washer at a coin laundry and her mother was arrested after a surveillance tape allegedly showed her putting the child into the machine, police said.
An officer smashed the window of the machine with his baton to rescue the girl, who was "submerged in water," police Sgt. Matt Stone said.
The child was unconscious when she was pulled from the washer Saturday but breathing. She was taken to a hospital where she was listed in serious condition with cuts, scrapes, bruises. She had inhaled some water but was expected to survive, Stone said.
Her mother, Erma Osborne, 35, of Pomona, later was arrested for investigation of child endangerment and held on $10,000 bail.
Surveillance camera footage showed that the woman placed her daughter in one washer, then removed her and placed her in a second front-loading washer, which turned on when she closed the door, Stone said.
"She wasn't drowned but she was getting there," Los Angeles County fire Capt. Dan Ramirez said.
The machine apparently locks automatically when the wash cycle begins and does not unlock until the cycle ends, Ramirez said.
Efforts by the girl's mother and bystanders to unlock the door failed.
--From the Monday, May 26, 2003 online edition of the Augusta Chronicle
LINK: http://www.augustachronicle.com/stories/052603/biz_124-6394.shtml
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Post# 29898-5/27/2003-05:38 ||| angus (Fairfield, CT.)
SUBJECT: RE: He's here, my mystery date!
MESSAGE: Congratulations Larry - you waited a long time for this machine and it looks like it was well worth it. Physically it is in great shape - does it need any work mechanically??
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Post# 29899-5/27/2003-06:22 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: He's here, my mystery date! (Dispenser in the agitator)
MESSAGE: That's the bleach dispenser. You take that out and add your detergent, you put the plastic bleach dispenser in and add bleach if needed. I wondered where Imperialbob's flying saucer went to.
Congratulations! Cool machine. Does it have Rapidry?
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Post# 29900-5/27/2003-07:07 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: Another Frigidaire!!!!! (Spare FL Parts )
MESSAGE: I Trashed the boot and did not scavange that piece off of the machine. It must have been a weak moment usually I save everything I possibly can. I have other parts That anyone is welcome to if they are needed Control panel, motor, Pressure switch ... No boot sorry .. and front glass door is now a Punch bowl.
Best to all from the south
PB
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Post# 29901-5/27/2003-07:14 ||| wringingwet (Walterboro South Carolina)
SUBJECT: RE: He's here, my mystery date! (Great Date )
MESSAGE: That is the bleach dispenser under the cap. I am so jealous that you got the Dispenser for the top it must be so cool to watch.
By The Way does anybody have a spare bellows wrench they would like to sell. I have tried almost all the Redneck tricks I and My nieghboors know to get that puppy back on.
Thanks guys
PB
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Post# 29902-5/27/2003-07:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: He's here, my mystery date!
MESSAGE: Larry, congratulations. It's a beaute. Hey, I wouldn't complain about NOT having a cold water wash. And besides, you can always turn off the hot tap and set it for warm/cold. I can't make out the control panel verbage, but does it say RapiDry 1000 or not. If it does, then the spin speed is 1010 rpms. If it doesn't, then the spin speed is still 710 rpms, which is more than the 640 rpms of the DD kenmores. You SHOULD notice a better moisture removal with that. Put bleach in the bleach cup after you've put detergent in the pulsator body. Then lock it down with the lid. Whitest whites in town for sure!!! These are marvelous machines for whites. And, use tht softener dispenser sparingly. They were known to eventually fail structurally with the attachment mechanism and all the inertia forces constantly subjected to it from the constant pulsating. Also, if I remember correctly, the instruction manual said the dispenseer was not to be used for a gentle spin cycle, only normal spin speeds. And BTW, SactoTeddyBear, I always did the essentially same sequences of manipulating water level knob for small loads. Except, I kept it on normal load size for everything except for the initial fills for wash and rinse. Kept the normal setting even for the overflow rinse portions so that for the wash overflow, there'd be SOME overflow. But the downside to that was the usual OOB condition and to have to redistribute the load. Bob
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Post# 29903-5/27/2003-09:28 ||| jmm63 (Verona, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: 69 or 70 Lady Kenmore
MESSAGE: Well so far I have framed in my Laundry room, a 50's whirlpool 2 page color ad for the "Guide Light" automatic, a 50's Hotpoint "all porcelain" pair in hot pink, a late 40 maytag automatic, a 50's Frigidaire pair with the "presto automatic" ironer, and a 70's Hotpoint with the "tub in a tub" feature. Still looking to expand and would love to have something about those Lady Kenmore I mentioned, so if anyone has any info, it would be most appreciated
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Post# 29904-5/27/2003-10:13 ||| tecnopolis (Sunny Fort Lauderdale, Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: He's here, my mystery date!
MESSAGE: Larry,
Nice find!
-Alex
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Post# 29905-5/27/2003-16:02 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: 69 or 70 Lady Kenmore (70's Hotpoint with the "
tub in a tub"
feature)
MESSAGE: Hi! Jmm63, I was just viewing the Posting's and saw that you have a Photo of the 70s Hotpoint "Tub-In-Tub" feature Washer. Would you possibly be able to make a Scan of it for the Club "POD" Photo Gallery? I had commented about this particular Washer about 2-months ago, to see if anyone had ever heard of it, besides me. I would love to see a Photo of it again and maybe possibly you could E-Mail me a copy of it too? I would be very appreciative of that if you would be so kind. My E-Mail Address is:
SactoTeddyBear@aol.com
I used to work at a local Appliance Store that sold these Washer's and Matching Dryer's and I had always wished I was living on my own, rather than still with my Parent's, I would have bought the Matching Set and would hope to still have them now. At that time, my only regret would be that the Dryer would have been Electric, instead of Gas, as that I use these days now.
B-T-B-H's, Steve "SactoTeddyBear"
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Post# 29906-5/27/2003-16:16 ||| Sonia (california)
SUBJECT: orbon gas stove
MESSAGE: I was given a orbon gas stove. It is in need of some cleaning up. Has all parts that belong to it. I was wondering if someone could recomend the best way or stuff to clean and repaint it.
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Post# 29907-5/27/2003-17:52 ||| chaskelljr2 (Washington, D. C.)
SUBJECT: RE: 69 or 70 Lady Kenmore
MESSAGE: Hello Jmm63:
My name is Charles. I am "THE" Charles that someone here on Classic Appliances has mentioned earlier. I am a Kenmore fan like you. And I am in love with the majority of the Lady Kenmores that was released over the years. I understand that you are interested in a picture of the 1969-70 Lady Kenmore Washer. Well..... it is confirmed that I do have a picture of this washer. It is in my 1969 F/W Sears Catalog. The washer and dryer are advertised on two pages. They are advertised in avacodo (everybody's favorite color of the 1969 Lady). It is the first one that has two rows of push buttons (the 1969-71 models also have color markings up or down the push buttons depending on how they are positioned on the control panel) with the slide down cover. There is also a detergent dispenser on the right side of the lid as you are facing the machine. This was one of the most beautiful machines (that Whirlpool has made for Sears) ever made. My personal favorite are the 1966-67 Lady Kenmores. To me, only the 1989-99 Direct-Drive Limited Editions and the 2002 to current Kenmore Elite HT3 Front-Loader looks as good as (if not better than) the 1969-70 Lady Kenmore. I have a picture of the 1968 model as well (the VERY first Lady with the Vari-Flex agitator), but for some reason, I wasn't too crazy over that one. And I also have a picture of the other Lady Kenmore that you have also decribed earlier. That model is a Model 800, and it is a 1963 model. There were two of those models in my family back then (on both sides..... my grandmother's was coppertone, and my aunt's (on my late mother's side) was pink), and both of them had the matching dryers that went with them. Cool machines back then. Those would be the one that has a backlit console on one side and eight-to-ten push buttons on the other side, surrounding the pin-stopping cycle/timer (four rectangular shaped lettered buttons on each side of the cycle/timer with with a "spin only" and/or "suds" button sitting at the bottom of the timer).
Maybe I need to go to Kinko's and upload those pictures for you sometime in the next couple of days or so. I am in the process of getting a new computer myself, and believe it or not, I am almost there. When I get my computer in the next month or so, I am going to get me a new scanner as well (AND WHATEVER YOU DO!!!!!!!!!!! DON'T (AND I REPEAT..... D-O-N-'-T!!!!!) EVER GET HEWLETT PACKARD SCANNER!!!!!! MY HEWLETT PACKARD(S) DID NOT EVEN LAST TWO YEARS AFTER I HAVE GOTTEN THEM..... AND YES.......... I DID TAKE OUT AN EXTENDED WARRANTY ON THEN....... HEWLETT PACKARDS AREN'T WORTH A SHIT............ NEXT TIME YOU NEED A SCANNER........ GET A CANON!!!!). And you better believe, it will be a Canon this time around. I have several friends that has had their Canon's for about two or three years, and they are still alive and kicking. Neither of my HP's haven't even lasted that long. I will be getting a Dell PC by the way.
But anyway, I'll see if I can get down to Kinko's before the week is out, then I'll go through some kind of demonstration with you as to how to upload pictures and post them onto the internet. I have never done anything like that before. If and when I finally do so, I'll see if I can direct them to this site then.
Okay????
Welcome to the club, Jmm63!!!!!
--Charles--
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Post# 29908-5/27/2003-19:13 ||| cehalstead (charleston, wv)
SUBJECT: RE: He's here, my mystery date!
MESSAGE: Why your Frigidaire has no setting for cold wash??? No self-respecting house wife would have even considered washing ANYTHING in cold water until COLD POWER detergent was marketed in the early to mid sixties. Other detergents wouldn't dissolve in anything less than warm. Another brand introduced about that time was COLD WATER ALL. Both of these cold water detergents told you to turn off the hot and make sure water entered machine. By the way, I'm jealous...I was raised in a Fridgidaire household. You can't find a better machine.
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Post# 29909-5/27/2003-20:21 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: 69 or 70 Lady Kenmore
MESSAGE: I like any kenmore you name. DD or BD it doesn't matter. I'de love to see those pictures too:-)
Sorry you had such bad luck with HP, we have always had HP printers and they are amazing. (none of them have broken once, we just replaced one because it was black and white, and then the other one because it was old and slow.) We have had an HP scanner for about 4 years and it hasn't broken once either. (My dog even stepped on the glass and I had to take it apart to snap the glass back in!)
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Post# 29910-5/27/2003-20:30 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: LARRY'S MYSTERY DATE
MESSAGE: Excellent machine, Larry. Glad the flying saucer dispenser found a loving home. Use it in good health.
P.
B
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Post# 29911-5/27/2003-21:44 ||| jmm63 (Verona, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: 69 or 70 Lady Kenmore (70's Hotpoint with the )
MESSAGE: I'll be more than happy to scan it and send it off to you, I'll post again when I do it (possibly in the next 2 mornings) The woman modeling them is a hoot too, she's got on a "groovy" 70s smock!!
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Post# 29912-5/27/2003-21:55 ||| alr2903 (new orleans)
SUBJECT: RE: 69 or 70 Lady Kenmore (70's Hotpoint with the 2 tubs)
MESSAGE: Jim63 if you would please pop that hotpoint pic in my mailbox too please. alr2903@aol.com thanks. man. I saw one of these once in the early 70's, could you use different water and temps in the two tubs? bleach in one and not in the other at the same time... Wild. Thanks again if you have time. I think it was kinda stacked mini basket type of arrangement.
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Post# 29913-5/27/2003-21:59 ||| jmm63 (Verona, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: 69 or 70 Lady Kenmore
MESSAGE: Charles... I wait anxiously for your pics. My neighbors model that I am remembering must have been the 63 Model 800 you described, I remember the "spin only" button now that you mentioned it. My mothers machine on the other hand must have been a model or 2 down from what you described. It was a flat panel with a large dial on the right that was lettered "A through F" for the cycles that matched a decription plaque on the left, it also had 2 slide levers for "infinite water control" and "cold wash/rinse options" The console was lighted with 2 appliance bulbs, one on the left and one above the timer. If I remember correctly it started washing at high speed and then automatically switched to slow speed to be more gentle on clothes. Maybe it wasnt a "lady" but just a Kenmore, in any case it lasted 27 years with a family of 4!! Anyway, thanks for the info an I look forward to seeing/ hearing from you!
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Post# 29914-5/27/2003-22:07 ||| jmm63 (Verona, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: 69 or 70 Lady Kenmore (70's Hotpoint with the 2 tubs)
MESSAGE: according to the ad you could do compeltly different things in each tub, seems like a neat concept, too bad it didnt take off
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Post# 29915-5/27/2003-23:51 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: 69 or 70 Lady Kenmore (Charles Kelly Jr.)
MESSAGE: Charles, thanks for reading my post. I knew you were the kenmore expert. Bob
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Post# 29916-5/28/2003-00:09 ||| mrcoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: In the News (An extremely dangerous machine!)
MESSAGE: After reading that article, I wonder WHEN the laundramats will ever install a safety device to open one of those things should somebody get trapped in one? And yes, they make some of those front loaders big enough to run a full sized adult through. And kill them, of course.
I have never heard of anything making it out of a front loader alive after the first wash. And it must be terrifying when someone can't get the machine open should a child be trapped in one! The kid would have stood a much better chance in a General Motors Frigidair, at least the kid could have stood up and breathed, and perhaps opened the lid (and no, I am not suggesting that any kid go for a ride in one by the way)!
MrCoffee
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Post# 29917-5/28/2003-00:45 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: In the News (An extremely dangerous machine!)
MESSAGE: Humans can always make ANYTHING dangerous. The most safe machine ever will still cause injuries. I think the amount of children that get trapped in a running washer is few and far between. (despite the last two.) Plus, I wouldn't expect a 2 year old to be able to stand up in a washer. The thing that made the washer so dangerous was the stupid mom. Just like the stupid mom that let her child lean right over an open, running washer. Honestly, how stupid is it to put a kid in a washer. All washers are dangerous when people are inside it. Dishwashers are very safe, but I am sure someone out there will put a child in one and see how dangerous they can be. Sure dishwashers stop immediatly when the door is opened, but what if a mom did such a thing at home with no other people to open the door? Nearly all injuries or deaths from appliances are from human fault, not machine fault. (Just like with roller coasters.) The only reason someone could get hurt by a washer is by using it wrong. (such as putting someone in it, or opening it up while it is plugged in etc.) Sorry to disagree, but I think the child in the washer problem was all human fault. The washer design may have prevented faster rescue, but none of that would have happened had the mom had some sort of brain.
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Post# 29918-5/28/2003-01:38 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: "POD" Kelvinator Washer and Tide:
MESSAGE: Hi! Dear Club Friend's, I noticed that the "POD" Kelvinator was a much newer Model, because it was Manufactured with the typical "Back-&-Forth" Agitation, instead of the traditional "Wobbling" Action that the older Kelvinator's had. I remember that "Cake-Pan" Filter on the Agitator, but I don't remember if it was a "Burp-Up" of a "Flowing Water" System to the Filter. I'm guessing it was the "Burp-Up" method though. I also noticed that they gave Customer's a "Coupon" instead of an actual Box of Tide Detergent, with the purchase of their Products, as with most all other Brand's started doing later on. I think that they all could have given at least a smaller size Box of Detergent as well as a Coupon too. I remember seeing those Washer's and their matching Dryer's and they were also sold under the name as a brand of "Bradford" at a local W.T. Grant's Company here. The Console's were similar but different, just like the Whirlpool and Kenmore's and similar but a little different Cycle and Option feature's too.
B-T-B-H's, Steve...
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Post# 29919-5/28/2003-09:41 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: In the News (An extremely dangerous mother!)
MESSAGE: After reading that article, I wonder WHEN the laundromats will ever install a safety device to keep bad parents out when they arrive with their children...
Definitely no fault of the machine for this stupid behavior...
-ph
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Post# 29920-5/28/2003-09:42 ||| PeterH770 (Atlanta, GA)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Kelvinator Washer and Tide:
MESSAGE: WECI machines of this era had a recirculating pump and lint filter. Norge (designed machines) and Hotpoint were the only machines to have burp-ups.
-ph
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Post# 29921-5/28/2003-16:55 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: In the News (An extremely dangerous mother!)
MESSAGE: Hehe, thats a better solution.
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Post# 29922-5/28/2003-17:20 ||| jimbo (Atlanta)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Kelvinator Washer and Tide:
MESSAGE: That could be a current ad - I've driven through Milton many times and things still look the same. By the empty clothes line in the backyard she needs to use some of that tide!
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Post# 29923-5/28/2003-17:23 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: Almost There
MESSAGE: Well, the Skinny Mini arrived today, thanks to Jimmy (filter-flo). My four machines are ready for the new workshop that was just built. We spent last weekend painting it and getting ready for the machines. Only need to get the electrician out so that we can start these babies up!
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Post# 29924-5/28/2003-18:55 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Almost There (drooling)
MESSAGE: God speed the electricians and the plumbers to your workshop. I'm getting Frigidaire withdrawels.
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Post# 29925-5/28/2003-20:25 ||| pturo (Syracuse, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Kelvinator Washer and Tide: (girl in picture)
MESSAGE: The girl in the picture looks like Patty Duke in the role of Neely O'Hara at the nuthouse in Valley of the Dolls.
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Post# 29926-5/28/2003-21:55 ||| FilterFlo (Coventry Twp, Ohio)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Kelvinator Washer and Tide: (girl in picture Vally of the Dolls........)
MESSAGE: Look, they drummed you right out of Hollywood, so you come crawling back to Broadway....Well Broadway doesnt go for booze and dope. Now get out of the way, I got a MAN waiting for me!.........
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Post# 29927-5/28/2003-22:07 ||| jason (Toronto)
SUBJECT: To the Webmaster
MESSAGE: The current screen shows posts back to #29900, yet the Archive ends at #25999. What happened to #26000 to #29899?
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Post# 29928-5/28/2003-22:10 ||| jason (Toronto)
SUBJECT: DISHWASHER ADVICE REQUIRED
MESSAGE: I have a "Kitchenaid Suberba V by Hobart" dishwasher from the early-mid '80s which still works flawlessly and I'm sure will continue to work for decades to come. I am buying a new Kitchenaid fridge and stove in stainless steel and would like matching stainless steel panels for the old dishwasher (which came with 3 front & back panels to provide for 6 different color options).
Any advice on where I may go to get panels in stainless steel to match the new Kitchenaid products?
Thank you
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Post# 29929-5/28/2003-23:42 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: DISHWASHER ADVICE REQUIRED
MESSAGE: This question has already been asked by someone under nickname of "Big-frankie." Several suggestions were posted in reply.
Click the "previous" button on this page to go back until you find that post, then review the answers.
Or use the link below.
LINK: http://classicappliances.com/NEW%20DISCUSS/DISCUSSION%20POSTS/29887.html
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Post# 29930-5/28/2003-23:44 ||| DADoES (Suthern Tejas)
SUBJECT: RE: To the Webmaster
MESSAGE: The archive function was programmed to work only through the point at which it stopped, and our ever-so-busy webmaster has not had an opportunity to re-code it.
I don't know how far back the "live" board history is retained, but you can use the Previous button at the top to go back through sections of posts as far as it allows.
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Post# 29931-5/28/2003-23:55 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: My Mystery Date
MESSAGE: Wow, I still can't get over the extraction and how this unit operates! The rollover is very good and I was expecting tangling when I washed my queen size sheet, 4 pillow cases and several towels and hand cloths! Not one had to be pried apart!
Steve,
Post# 29895
The lid is solid, no glass. It's just a Custom Deluxe.....All I need to do is give it a good cleaning and level the machine once I can break the stubborn rusty foots.
Angus,
Post# 29898
Once I adjust the feet to level the machine, the basket should return back to the center for it leans toward the rear.
Jasonl,
Post# 29899
The machine is a standard machine without rapidry.
PB,
Post# 29901
Check Ebay from time to time, that tool may show up and good Luck!
Let us know when you get a hold of it!
Appnut,
Post# 29902
You are not lying about the OOB loads!
Alex,
Post# 29904
Thanks!
IMPERIALBOB,
Post# 29910
I will do my best!
Thanks everyone for the instruction on how to use the bleach dispenser and to adjust the timer for a longer wash.....
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Post# 29932-5/29/2003-00:13 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Kelvinator Washer and Tide: (girl in picture Vally of the Dolls........)
MESSAGE: Jimmy, can I hear a big AAA --MAN, you said a mouthful LOL
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Post# 29933-5/29/2003-00:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: My Mystery Date
MESSAGE: Larry, welcome to washing the Frigidaire Jet-Action way. Remember to seciton the tub into quarters and load the clothes by dropping them in. Do not wrap anything around the pulsator. Sheets particularly. I'm quite impressed with your no-tangling episode given your maiden voyage.
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Post# 29934-5/29/2003-03:22 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: In the News (An extremely dangerous mother)
MESSAGE: Yes, it is true. People do stupid things with cars, snowmobiles, boats, motorcycles, guns, and, of course, appliances. It's not the machine's fault. And, nothing can be made completely idiot-proof. The only way to make things totally idiot-proof, is to not allow the idiots to have access in the first place!
Getting back to classic appliances for a moment. My mother acquainted me with her Whirlpool automatic less then a couple years after she purchased it. She showed me EVERY INCH of that machine. Its water settings, its timer, its fabric cycles, how much detergent to use without making it over-flow with suds (pun intended). I went out on my first date with that machine when I was 11, under her watchful eye. Later, I was expected to take care of that machine and to handle my own personal needs (laundry) with it. My grandmother was no different (I got to play with a solid-tub Unimatic for Heaven's sake!) and learned how to use a wringer before that. I was 5 years of age. Neither parent was reluctant to teach me the workings of their equipment, because they knew that I would one day need that knowledge. The last thing they wanted to raise was a fool-hardy individual without a clue to safety and care of equipment. I am sure that your parents felt the same way.
We don't need idiot parents. But without a history or any priors, there can be no way to predict the future behavior of any one person. Examine the parent, and hold them accountable. But fix that lock too.
MrCoffee
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Post# 29935-5/29/2003-07:15 ||| magic clean (Florida)
SUBJECT: RE: In the News (An extremely dangerous machine! Dishwasher/child impalement )
MESSAGE: I heard of a gruesome incident involving a dishwasher. Picture an machine with the lower rack pulled out, a carving knife loaded point up in the silverware basket and small children playing in the kitchen. Somehow one of them falls onto the door of the machine.
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Post# 29936-5/29/2003-10:44 ||| kirk280980 (Lincoln UK)
SUBJECT: RE: In the News (An extremely dangerous machine! Dishwasher/child impalement )
MESSAGE: Only last night there was a story on the news about a lady who tripped over in her kitchen and landed in the dishwasher. The carving knife sitting in the cutlery basket plunged into her chest, and she died in hospital later that evening. Not a nice way to go.
For this very reason, many new dishwashers over here are being supplied with safety knife racks, which hold sharp utensils sideways and out of harm's way in the upper basket. Alternatively, I guess you could just lay knives across the cup racks, or at least put them in the cutlery basket with the blades pointing downwards.
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Post# 29937-5/29/2003-11:33 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Kelvinator Washer and Tide: (girl in picture Vally of the Dolls........)
MESSAGE: I look forward to the POD and these messages each day. But I've never laughed out loud at my desk reviewing them. Thanks!
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Post# 29938-5/29/2003-21:17 ||| jason (Toronto)
SUBJECT: RE: PLEASE RESPOND - DISHWASHER QUESTION (another link)
MESSAGE: Thanks Steve. Frigo seems like a good solution.
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Post# 29939-5/30/2003-00:44 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: In the News (An extremely dangerous machine! Dishwasher/child impalement )
MESSAGE: Whirlpool has always had an arrangement where utensils are in a rack attached to the door. This is evident on my vintage Supreme Super Scour (I like that machine, but may offer it to someone if they're interested by the way). When you open the door, the knives and other such items lie flat. Good feature there.
On a Maytag, however, the silverware rack is arranged just like you described, on the bottom roack, Kirk! This is obviously a bad situation for the careless. I always put my knives in the top rack, lying flat. It's much safer that way.
MrCoffee
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Post# 29940-5/30/2003-08:29 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: J.B. WELD & RUBBER REPAIRING
MESSAGE: Place your bets. I'm betting the epoxy repair IS gonna work on the rubber pump sheath of my Bendix Dialamatic rubber tub washer - you may remember I reported it being busted, and have had the machine at parade rest for about a month now....well, I used elephant snot glue (high temperature gasket adhesive) to hold the broken lips shut tightly, then smeared an entire package (both tubes) of J.B. Weld epoxy all over the seam, overlapping as much as possible onto the still good rubber area. It's 48 hours dry and hardened now, and appears to be solid, yet flexible, so I'm hoping this is gonna work....Gonna put the machine back together today and will test it later this evening, so place your bets now on weather or not you think this is gonna work....
LINK: http://bobwirth.hypermart.net/EPOXY/INDEX.htm
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Post# 29941-5/30/2003-10:29 ||| westie2 (arkansas)
SUBJECT: RE: J.B. WELD & RUBBER REPAIRING
MESSAGE: Looks like it will work. One of my grandmothers had this washer and I always wondered how it caused the vaccum and pumped the water out at the same time. The pump itself looks like a small version of the pumps they use in New Orleans to pump out all the water. The big pumps are called wood screw pumps.
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Post# 29942-5/30/2003-11:59 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: J.B. WELD & RUBBER REPAIRING (pump)
MESSAGE: Yeah, when the pumps are working. It floods in the Land Of Rust.
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Post# 29943-5/30/2003-12:18 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: J.B. WELD & RUBBER REPAIRING
MESSAGE: Hi Bob,
It looks like it will work. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that you'll be able to save that rare beauty!
Mike
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Post# 29944-5/30/2003-14:30 ||| CleanteamofNY (Brooklyn, NY)
SUBJECT: RE: J.B. WELD & RUBBER REPAIRING
MESSAGE: I've crossed all of my fingers and cross me toes that it will work!
Good luck and keep us up to date!
Larry
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Post# 29945-5/30/2003-16:47 ||| kenwashesmonday (Haledon, NJ)
SUBJECT: RE: J.B. WELD & RUBBER REPAIRING
MESSAGE: Looks like it's good for 50 more years. J.B. Weld is great stuff!
Ken D.
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Post# 29946-5/30/2003-19:56 ||| Borntoolate (iowa)
SUBJECT: What is the year?
MESSAGE: i, I have a big old side by side Kelvinator Food-o-rama. In fact there is a commercial of it on this site. What I was wondering if anyone knows what dates these were made. I assume that it was the fifties, but it would be great if I could narrow it down. Also, if anyone has any parts for this, I would love to talk to you. It works great at this time, but I would love to have some back up pieces on hand. Thanks and have a great evening
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Post# 29947-5/30/2003-20:11 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: ebay 1955 maytag
MESSAGE: check out this one in Texas. Bob, is this one waiting for you?
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2326043063&category=20714
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Post# 29948-5/30/2003-21:26 ||| IMPERIALBOB (ARLINGTON, VIRGINIA)
SUBJECT: FORWARD MARCH
MESSAGE: Yup. It worked.
Video tomorrow by the light of day.
Woo Hoo.
B
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Post# 29949-5/31/2003-00:01 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: CASCADE IN A WASHER - Bad idea? (Cascade & Bakelite dulling)
MESSAGE: bleach based dishwasher detergent will dull Bakelite, but it takes repeated exposure, one use for cleaning/disinfecting won't affect the bakelite agitators
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Post# 29950-5/31/2003-00:09 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: In the News (An extremely dangerous machine! Dishwasher/child impalement )
MESSAGE: That must be new maytags? Our maytag has the utensil rack on the top. And it also has a space on the sides of both the top and bottom racks for long, sharp knives. The easiest remedy is to put the sharp parts pointed down:-)
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Post# 29951-5/31/2003-00:12 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: FORWARD MARCH (YAY!)
MESSAGE: Can't wait to see videos!
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Post# 29952-5/31/2003-00:17 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Parts for Frigidaire Custom Imperial Range (Frigidaire Stove parts)
MESSAGE: Scout around on the Internet for appliance parts places, you might get better action if you research the part number of the light shield.
As for the power cord, how could movers the lose that? It's attached to the range. Anyway, it's a standard part, available at any hardware store. Just make sure the plug blade arrangement is correct for the outlet in your house. Some jurisdictions require the range be grounded separately, so those outlets have 4 holes instead of the usual 3.
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Post# 29953-5/31/2003-03:15 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: Re: Friday's "POD" Westinghouse Stack Twin's:
MESSAGE: Hi! Dear Club Friend's, I had a later Model of those, with the "Weigh-to-Save" Drop-Down Door on the Washer and they were the Coppertone Color. The Dryer had the "Cross-Vane" Tumbling, to help prevent the Laundry from "Balling-Up" especially with Sheets in the Load. They were totally trouble-free and lasted quite a long time. I don't really remember what happened to them, I had them in the Mid-70s and for a while, I had them Stacked in my Kitchen and I had to convert the Dryer to
110-Volt's, and use the Time Cycle only, because my Kitchen didn't have 220-Volt's in it for a Dryer. The Dryer sat in the Garage normally, because of when the houses were built, in the late 40s and people didn't have Clothes Dryer's being popular as they certainly are now.The 220-Volt Wiring was put in later on in the Mid-50s, for that area of Town.
Best Regards, Steve
B-T-B-H's...
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Post# 29954-5/31/2003-06:58 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Sources for stove identification. (Kenmore range)
MESSAGE: Get the model number, and go onto Sears.com and see if they have the parts list for it. They usually date those parts lists. You might be able to go to an old-line appliance parts store and see if they have old books. And post the model nmber here, maybe someone can decipher it for you. If there's a wiring diagram, there's often a date on those, too. And, of course, ther are antique range sites you can check out.
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Post# 29955-5/31/2003-07:03 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: Don't let this happen to you (stuck in washer)
MESSAGE: I can't imagine getting so stuck in a washer that the "Jaws of Life" had to be used. So now the washer is ruined, whatever it was.
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Post# 29956-5/31/2003-07:13 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: 1986 LK Electronic-Control Dryer Available For LIMITED TIME (nasty & funky dryer)
MESSAGE: Those dryers are SO easy to fix, and the top can simply be sanded down and re-painted. Might be woth it since it's a LadyK and not a cheapie model.
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Post# 29957-5/31/2003-07:26 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Maytag's: (Maytag Pushbutton Dryer (too Automatic))
MESSAGE: Actually, a lot of washers of this period were guilty of the "too automatic" syndrome. All those buttons looked great, and made it SEEM like it was flexible, but in reality, was a pain in the butt. You had to except how THEY (the engineers) thoght things should be washed you were SOL if you wanted to wash in cold water for the longer wash time or agitate slow and spin fast, etc.
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Post# 29958-5/31/2003-07:30 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Maytag's: (flexibility)
MESSAGE: Even Lady K's with the dial and the "A B C D, etc." button system had the same flexibility problem, though they at least had separate water level and agitation/spin speed options
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Post# 29959-5/31/2003-07:35 ||| kenmore1978 (Los Angeles)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Gas dryer joins the family (Dryer auto dry cycles)
MESSAGE: I find that the auto dry cycle on my 1978 LadyK Solid State works almost perfectly with a couple of exceptions. It ends to stop too early if drying synthetic items like polyester, nylon, and such, even if you set the controls to Maximum dry. And I have to set the controls one button higher if drying things like jeans or overalls in order for the waistbands to get completely dry. But those seem to be the only situations where it doesn't dyr perfectly everytime.
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Post# 29960-5/31/2003-14:09 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Don't let this happen to you (stuck in washer)
MESSAGE: Thats what I was thinking too. Maybe they didn't want the kid to get hurt or something. (well, being jammed between an agitator and a basket is worse than being pulled out forcefully.)
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Post# 29961-5/31/2003-14:22 ||| bigalsf (San Francisco Bay area)
SUBJECT: RE: In the News (Whirlpool Utensil Racks)
MESSAGE: Sorry, but this is not true. Through the late 60's Whirlpool had silveware racks in the lower dishrack. They did not introduce the door mounted rack until 1970, starting with model SVU 80 & up.
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Post# 29962-5/31/2003-14:38 ||| Hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: Oh what fun
MESSAGE: Thanks for such a fun, and wonderfull and very interesting site. I realy enjoy going thru the classic washers of yester year, as a 40 year old man I can list the washing machines that I have had the pleasure of using. Oh by the way if any one can help with the description of this single tub washer that my mum, (god rest her) used to use to do the family wash I will be forever in your debt. It had a black base and a gold top, with one control knob with 2 functions. To heat the water and the single speed wash control. There was also a lever that when pushed to the right, emptied the tub. The rotar looked like the hub cap from a car that had 3 raised humps on, and revolved on the bottom of the tub any ideas anyone. It also had a manual ringer or mangle, which was fixed on the top of the washer.
Hotpoint Empress.(Child hood memories of being woken up to the clunk clunk sound and the smell of washing powder, first thing monday morning before school)
Hotpoint Supermatic Twin Tub (The spin drier lasted 15 years)
The washer lasted 17 years.
Left home 1982
Fridgidare 1982(Left home and moved in with my partner to his college accomodation)
Hoovermatic deluxe 1982 (Moved out of his college acommodation, and set up home together, I hated the Hoovermatic, I allways got my fingers scalded cos the wash load would tangle. At the end of the cycle there was all ways a knotty lump of clothes to untangle.
Zannusi Automatic 1983 (Bliss, we broke 1986 up he still has this washer and is still going strong to this day 2003
Hotpoint top loader automatic(I rue the day I got rid of that washer even though the electric bills were shocking)
Indesit 1100 1986 (broke down after 2 years, motor burnt out)
Zannusi 1988(I gave that one to my present partner, he didnt look after it properly it consequently died.
After numerous second hand washers one being a rolls razor, I now have a Hotpoint First Edition front loader. It simply does the job
LINK: http://www.kevinkunsworth.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
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Post# 29963-5/31/2003-17:21 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Friday's "POD" Westinghouse Stack Twin's: (240 volt to 110 volt conversion for Electric Dryer)
MESSAGE: Hi Steve,
As I've mentioned in previous posts, I grew up in a 44 unit apartment building where Maytags were the washers of choice. (You could actually count the non-Maytags one one hand.) The neighbors who lived in the apartment that was directly under us moved in 1971. The new neighbors had a stacked Westinghouse set (in Coppertone) that was similar to one you had. The wife was always complaining that she couldn't use the dryer because "she didn't have enough electricity". (Several of our neighbors paid to have 240 lines put in. They were used either for air conditioners or for dryers or both.) Like my mom and most of our neighbors, she had to use a clothesline. It's kind of funny to think that she could have used dryer if she only had it converted! (Though I would think that dryer run at 110 volts would take forever to dry a load.)
Thanks for making me take a walk down memory lane.
Mike
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Post# 29964-5/31/2003-19:58 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: In the News (Whirlpool Utensil Racks [oops])
MESSAGE: You're right. I forgot Shirly Taylor's top-loading RCA/Whirlpool portable (a friend of mine from when I was in New Mexico). Well, I should have bought that machine from her. I could have had it for $25.00 back then, but then there's the problem transporting it!
Of course, I didn't know that a front-load Whirlpool dishwasher had the silverware racks in the lower dishrack. Thanks for informing us, bigalsf...
MrCoffee
Oh, and my Supreme Super Scour is a 1977 model.
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Post# 29965-5/31/2003-20:05 ||| MrCoffee (Twin Cities, MN)
SUBJECT: RE: Don't let this happen to you (stuck in washer)
MESSAGE: Seems to me like it would be one of those Whirlpool dual-action direct drives. They have the agitator that "augers" cloths down the sides and towards the fins. It would be rather difficult to get someone out wedged around that without actually breaking it. Might as well have the jaws kill it first, then have the crusher finish the job. At least the washer will be out of its misery and the kid will live to collect vintage appliances!
The washer may be ruined, but it'll be cheap to replace anyway. Spare the pain, and gain an excuse to buy a Calypso I suppose.
MrCoffee
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Post# 29966-5/31/2003-20:14 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Friday's "POD" Westinghouse Stack Twin's: (240 volt to 110 volt conversion for Electric Dryer)
MESSAGE: Hey! Mike, how interesting to find out about other places not having 220-Volts for Dryer's, although I'm sure there are a lot of areas all over the States and people not willing to sacrifice going to 110-Volts instead, before 220-Volts got popular enough.
I actually didn't leave the Set Stacked for very long, just for that reason and it wasn't really that far in that house from the Kitchen to the Garage to take the Laundry from the Washer to the Dryer, where it was connected to 220-Volts.
I don't know if you saw my Posting some time ago about my Neighbor's 1960s GE Dryer that she bought and needed it converted to 110-Volts, because of not having 220-Volts available for 220-Volt Electric Dryers. She used it that way for quite some time until her Brother-In-Law wired her Garage for 220-Volts. I converted the Dryer for her, after taking it apart and giving it a real good cleaning and check-up.
I'm glad that you had a real good time going down
"Memory Lane" again, it is fun to do once in a while, isn't it!
Best Regards, Steve
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Post# 29967-5/31/2003-21:58 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Friday's "POD" Westinghouse Stack Twin's: (240 volt to 110 volt conversion for Electric Dryer)
MESSAGE: Hi Steve,
The interesting thing abount "not having enough electricity" is that the city where I have lived all of my life had 240 volt electric service. The building where I grew up was built in 1907. It originally was lit by gas. Electricity came later. We had fuse boxes (and 30 amp service for an entire 6 room apartment!) in the basement. The building was rewired in 1966. Circut breakers and 100 amp service was put in. The circut breakers were also in the basement. If you wanted an air conditioner (or a dryer) that required 240 volt service, you had to pay an electrician to run a line (or lines) from the basement. The 240 lines were not installed when the building was rewired. They were gradually installed as people needed/wanted them. They were encased in metal pipes that were installed on the wall on the outside of the building to whatever floor you lived on and it was a five story building! (The building received a gut renovation in 1974, so we had to move.) This is entirely up to code. (My parents now live in a house and that's how the 220 wiring for their air conditioners is run.) Back then, not many people had air conditioners and even fewer had dryers. (Of the 44 apartments, I can only think of 9 that had dryers.) Three neighbors had gas dryers. The kitchens of some of apartments had stoves that were located close to a window. There was enough space next to the stove for a dryer and they were able to use a t-pipe to connect both their stove and their dryer to their apartment's gas line. The vents -- for both gas and electric dryers -- were hung out of the windows when the dryers were used.
Mike
P.S. I did see your post about the GE dryer, but for some reason I didn't connect the fact that my neighbor could have converted her dryer until I saw your post about the stacked Westinghouse. I'm sometimes amazed at what it takes to trigger a walk down memory lane. :-) Thanks again.
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Post# 29968-5/31/2003-22:25 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: "POD" Maytag's: (Maytag Pushbutton Dryer (too Automatic))
MESSAGE: That's why I hated our 1964 Norge15 washer. I didn't "agree" with the wash'n'wear cycle "programming" hot wash cold rinse. No warm cold for that type of fabric. Lady Kenmores were the only washer that came close to what I considered ideal programming. Even WCI65s with the sturdy cycle with hot water I didn't agree with. The more fragile w'n'w cycle on that Frigidaire had the warm wash but it was a slow agitation if I remember correctly.
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Post# 29969-5/31/2003-23:33 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: OK ALL YOU KENMORE 800 FANS!!!
MESSAGE: Greetings Everyone! Just saw this on ebay and thought one of you might just want to get this! Mark
LINK: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2326508527&category=42232
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Post# 29970-6/1/2003-00:42 ||| Andrewinorlando (Winter Park, FL)
SUBJECT: Easy Automatic Washer and Dryer
MESSAGE: I am looking for information or pictures of an early 1960's Easy automatic washer and automatic dryer. These aren't the combo washer/spin dryer units, but the fully automatic models with the cylindrical timers that were operated by a pull lever. The dryer has a glass front door and a nifty "no tumble" feature that was engaged by a lever located at the bottom right of the machine's front. The washer was a solid tub, about 12 pound capacity. I have never seen these machines anywhere before, but they were purchased in New York back in 1963. I think mom got them at Friendly Frost in Queens. Any information or pictures would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Post# 29971-6/1/2003-00:49 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Don't let this happen to you (stuck in washer)
MESSAGE: Oh but it is so easy to remove a whirlpool dual action agitator it isn't even funny. You remove A. a cap B. a bolt. Then you just pull the top part of the agitator off and the kid is free. Not only that, but now almost every top loader has dual action (maytag, GE, frigidaire and all the washers made by those companies.)
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Post# 29972-6/1/2003-01:46 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Re: Friday's "POD" Westinghouse Stack Twin's: (240 volt to 110 volt conversion for Electric Dryer)
MESSAGE: OK! Mike, it's my turn to go down "Memory Lane" but mine is a reminder of your story and too much "CRS" for some time now. Our houses here were originally built in the 50s with only Fuse Boxes with about the same amount of Amps. that you mentioned. Our house had 4-Fuses for the whole house and it had a Gas Stove hook-up originally, but not for a Gas Dryer. My Parent's Neighbor at one time was an Electrician for one of our Air Force Bases here, so he Re-Wired some of our houses, converting to Circuit Breaker's and our house now for quite some time has had a 220-Amp Breaker Box. I have enough space in the Box, that if I had the Garage cleaned out, I could have the wiring done for several dedicated Circuit's for 220-Volt Dryer's. I just had 2-Microwave's Re-Wired to dedicate the Circuit's, because I couldn't run both together, now if I wanted to I can run all 3-Microwave's {1-Micro/Hood,
1-Micro/Convect, 1-Microwave only} the Microwave Jenn-Air, made by Tappan only was my Parent's, that they bought through a promotional sale, when they had Central Heat/Air installed, they had to only pay $90.00 for the Microwave, in 1980. I'm wanting to put another dedicated 220-Volt line my Garage to be able to operate both of my 60s Kenmore Combo's later on too.
My best to you, Steve
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Post# 29973-6/1/2003-16:52 ||| neptune2000 (Florence, Sc)
SUBJECT: Former Lurker - Now a Member.
MESSAGE: Hello Everyone,
I've been a " lurker " at this site for well over 2 years - have learned a lot, and spent many a happy 20 minutes reading posts, and perusing the museum, archives, etc.
Today decided it's time to become a real member... don't know what took me so long. Profile is honest & accurate however feel free to ask questions...
Just aquired ( Friday ) a Neptune ( used ) and am still learning all of it's peculiarities,sounds, and whimsies... it most definitly seems to have a mind of it's own - but after 10 loads - we're becoming friends.. Haven't had any real "problems" with it....yet, but there are a lot of things I don't quite fully understand either. Back to the dealer tomorrow with my list of questions.
Hope everyone had a decent weekend.
Neptune2000
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Post# 29974-6/1/2003-17:27 ||| tcox6912 (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: Former Lurker - Now a Member.
MESSAGE: Welcome to the group!
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Post# 29975-6/1/2003-18:33 ||| christfr (st louis mo)
SUBJECT: RE: Former Lurker - Now a Member. (welcome)
MESSAGE: glad to see you now on board with the rest of us
youll love it here and youll meet some really great people
if i can help with your neptune questions feel free to ask my address in in the profile section i bought a new one back before they were on the sales floor and i love it so if i or anyone else can ever help just ask away
welcome and good luck with your machine and all your yet to be discovered new finds
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Post# 29976-6/1/2003-20:46 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Former Lurker - Now a Member. (Re: Neptune Owner:)
MESSAGE: Hi! Neptune2000, I also bought a new Neptune Set around the same time as "christfr" bought his. If you have any further question's or needs about them, you can contact me directly as well at:
SactoTeddyBear@aol.com
My set is a little newer {only by months though} then his, but the same Models and we both have a Gas Dryer. By the way, just to keep "Noses in Shape" it would be best to ask through the Sand Box listing's or contact us directly, "via" our E-Mail Addresses, for our newer Appliance needs and comments, since this part of the site is for the Classic Appliances.
Good Luck with the new Arrival's, it sounds like they are doing quite well already.
Best Regards, Steve
SactoTeddyBear...
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Post# 29977-6/1/2003-21:36 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: GE Harmony coming out
MESSAGE: The new ultra-cool GE Harmony washer and dryer is coming out soon. I can't wait to see this in person.
This is a new appliance so let's talk about it in the ol' Sandbox. IMPERIALBOB if you throw sand at me again, I'll spank you. :-P just kidding
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Applianceville-Sandbox/
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Post# 29978-6/2/2003-12:41 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: LOOK! Another Yahoo group
MESSAGE: That's right. The Applianceville Hi-Fi Hot Tub. Another message board to discuss old and new appliances and our main focus (Robert Seger, you'll appreciate this) is vintage audio/hi-fi, including antique radios/record players/jukeboxes and even the records themselves.
I'm going to upload a videos of a few of my turntables in action and hopefully my neighbor in Arlington would share some of his neat stuff.
LINK: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/appliancevillehifihottub/
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Post# 29979-6/2/2003-20:43 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: EBAY BIDDING ON CLASSIC PARTS! (need bellows(mark))
MESSAGE: I need inner bellows "KF 1-28" for a 1/18, I should be able to pull a good one off of some of the others that I am breaking down, but it would be cool to get a new one ....... thanks ...
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Post# 29980-6/2/2003-20:44 ||| gregm (MA)
SUBJECT: RE: 1-18 Gas dryer joins the family (congrads AND ...)
MESSAGE: I hope we're still talking laundry .........
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Post# 29981-6/2/2003-22:12 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Today's POD (5/2/03)
MESSAGE: My mom had the Frigidaire rotary ironer (she called in a mangle) that was part of the trio of Frigidaire laundry equipment in today's POD. She got it several years before she got her first automatic! She stopped using it in the late 60's. She got rid of it in the 80's. She threw it out with the trash. She couldn't find anyone to take it off her hands. :-(
Mike
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Post# 29982-6/2/2003-22:25 ||| JerseyMike (New Jersey)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers
MESSAGE: One of the many things that I've learned from this site, is that Frigidaire made coin operated "jet action" laundry equipment for several years during the 60's. I've also read that Frigidaire washers had to be loaded carefully to avoid tangling. (My aunt had a late 50's Frigidaire. One of my neighbors had an early 50's model. I don't remember either one of them complaining about tangling problems, but I digress.) People who use coin operated laundry equipment don't have access to home demonstrations or "use and care guides" so I can't help but wonder if tangling problems, due to improper loading, prevented Frigidaire from become a "name" in coin operated laundry equipment.
Mike
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Post# 29983-6/2/2003-22:33 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers
MESSAGE: Mike I think the majority of the Frigidaire coinop washers had the deep-action jetcone style agitators, which are more forgiving to errant loading patterns than the 3 ring variety. It's possible those folks you knew, unlike some, took the time to check out the diagram or instructions for proper loading procedures.
Too bad your mom did not go back to the ironer dealer, for her automatic washer!
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Post# 29984-6/2/2003-22:36 ||| KurtDixon (Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers
MESSAGE: I have heard that too, I must wonder what made them prone to tangling? Do you have an idea, It doesn't seem like the pulsing should tangle the clothes.
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Post# 29985-6/2/2003-22:47 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers
MESSAGE: Kurt, I think it is the constant, rapid rollover that does it, if you just spread everything out around the agitator. It is greatly minimized by loading by dropping pieces in the machine by quarters.
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Post# 29986-6/3/2003-00:37 ||| appnut (Temple, TX)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers
MESSAGE: And what about the rapid star of the spin without any baffles or barriers to keep things from bunching up together as it started spinning. It seems to me that aftyer the first spin in the WO65, things tended to be wound up a bit in that first rinse.
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Post# 29987-6/3/2003-02:55 ||| geoff (Connecticut)
SUBJECT: Easy made Westinghouse Top-loader
MESSAGE: Hey guys! I return! :) Haven't posted in a while as I have been busy lately. I have a quick question to anyone who can give me any information. I am POSSIBLY adopting an Easy made Westinghouse Top-Loader. Does anyone have any information at all regarding these machines?? Good? Bad? Worthwhile? It has been rarely used as it was at a friends summer cottage that was rarely used for the past 30-40 something years. My friend says it runs wonderfully, VERY quiet when spinning. I asked him to check if it had a spiral agitator and he told me it does. I asked him to explain what it looked like and he completely described an Easy Spiralator. I'm hopeful. If anyone can give me an information at all it would be GREATLY appreciated :)
Regards,
Geoff
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Post# 29988-6/3/2003-03:32 ||| hairybigmanuk (England)
SUBJECT: RE: LOOK! Another Yahoo group (LOOK! Another Yahoo group)
MESSAGE: Wonderfull pics Jason, thanks for the nostalgia. Hairybigmanuk
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Post# 29989-6/3/2003-11:14 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (5/2/03)
MESSAGE: Hey Mike-
My grandmother had an ironer that she used to refer to as a mangle as well. I never heard anyone use that term besides gram and my dad until today. I think the brand was Gladiron (?). Anyway, I have fond memories watching her iron laundry while watching the soaps. She could even do my grandfather's shirts on the machine! Wished I had that baby today. I think it was discarded in the trash as well when they moved into a smaller house. :-{
Greg
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Post# 29990-6/3/2003-11:57 ||| Unimatic1140 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Easy made Westinghouse Top-loader (Extremely Rare Find)
MESSAGE: Hi Geoff,
Wow if you have truly found a Easy made Westinghouse Top-Loader that would be a one in a million find. They only made them for approximately two years, I don't believe I know anyone personally who has ever seen one. I would grab that machine if you can.
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Post# 29991-6/3/2003-12:15 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (5/2/03)
MESSAGE: I've heard the term mangle used fairly commonly over the years. Ironer makes more sense to me, but then what do I know, LOL. I believe "Gladiron" was a Thor-made product.
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Post# 29992-6/3/2003-12:38 ||| Frigilux (Minnesota)
SUBJECT: Frigidaire Coin-Ops
MESSAGE: While we're on the subject, has anyone ever seen a GM-era coin-op Frigidaire with an agitator cap? Back in the 70's I frequented a laundromat with Frigi's and not one had an agitator cap. The laundry room in my sister's apt. building had Frigi's---no agitator caps. Were they not issued with caps or did they all go to the same place single socks go to?
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Post# 29993-6/3/2003-12:48 ||| scott55405 (Minneapolis)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin-Ops
MESSAGE: That's a good question, because water forcing out the bottom makes the jet currents in the water, and I would think the water escaping from the top might take away some from that. That said, I don't think I ever saw one in a laundromat with a cap. Robert has one and I can't remember if he's placed a cap on his.
Maybe they were concerned that they would just get lost or whatever, and I wonder if that's why the Maytag coinops don't/didn't have the liftout filter or softener cup.
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Post# 29994-6/3/2003-14:23 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers
MESSAGE: Greetings Mike! The three ring agitators were the tanglers! Once the Jet Action type agitator was developed, that ended the tangling problems. Those three rings had WAY too much rollover....so much in fact, that knotting was usually the result no matter how it was loaded. (especially larger items like tablecloths and sheets or long sleeve shirts) The Jet Action agitator had the lower rubber (pump) portion that was narrower instead of so flat and wide. Less rollover and greatly reduced tangling. We had a late 60's Jet Action type and it didn't matter how you loaded it, clothes never tangled. They didn't rollover real fast, but rollover WAS pretty good and the ENTIRE article came clean without knotting! The laundromat washers had a shorter wash cycle and the Jet Action agitation systems, thus loading wasn't a problem for the "washing amateurs" like my mother that just crammed them full, put in the change, and walked away! Caps were not supplied with the coin op washers as people used them as ashtrays and they seemed to sprout legs and walk away! The bleach cups were not included with those washers either. The one problem they had was small articles washing overboard and clogging up the pump. It would spin so fast that the load would rise to the top of the tub and block the holes so that when the washer filled up for the rinse cycle, it would overfill and any loose socks, washrags, etc would float over the top of the tub before the agitation started. Later Frigidaire included a ring that went under the top lip of the tub to prevent the problem but it didn't really help much. If they would have started the agitation one click sooner for the rinse portion of the cycle, that would have solved the problem...but then they didn't ask me! Mark
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Post# 29995-6/3/2003-14:25 ||| salvoboy (San Francisco)
SUBJECT: RE: Today's POD (5/2/03)
MESSAGE: Thanks for the info Scott. I would have never known it was a Thor, which is kind of cool.
I half-wondered if the mangle might have been made by ABC since my grandparents lived in Peoria for many years and ABC was big there as was Caterpillar for whom my grandfather was an engineer. They were the "cool" grandparents who always had the latest stuff but my grandfather couldn't part with anything mechanical so their basement looked a bit like some member collections on the site. 2 washers, 2 dryers, an enormous fully operational gas stove, dehumidifier, water softener - mostly all Kenmore, and more stuff I can't even remember. A virtual playground for a boy - probably where I developed my interest in appliances. Oh, and uh, Gram used Salvo and would let me drop in the tabs and then watch to my heart's content from a wooden crate used as a step stool.
The mangle, however, was kept in a closet in the family room. Easy to wheel out during As the World Turns. Heh heh.
Oh yeah, the stove actually had a purpose. In the event of a power outage, my gram could bypass the '63 coppertone and stainless top Magic Chef electric range in the kitchen (a real gem) and cook downstairs. Yep, they were a trip.
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Post# 29996-6/3/2003-14:27 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin-Ops
MESSAGE: Maytag didn't use the fabric softner dispenser cup or filter system in the agitators in their laundromat models because no one read the directions, and would put their detergent (or bleach) in the fabric softner cup thus ending up with a real sudsy rinse! These machines also get BETTER rollover without the lint filter in place. Mark
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Post# 29997-6/3/2003-14:32 ||| lightedcontrols (Saint Petersburg)
SUBJECT: KENMORE 800
MESSAGE: Hi Friends! Joe has a Kenmore 800 for sale that one of you guys (Jamie?) should try and rescue. He sent me pictures but I just don't have any more room! Joe's email is: joesprague@columbus.rr.com and he will be glad to send photos! Mark
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Post# 29998-6/3/2003-14:42 ||| SactoTeddyBear (Sacramento, CA)
SUBJECT: RE: Frigidaire Coin Operated Washers (Re: Coin-Op Frigidaire's:)
MESSAGE: Hey! Mark, I really love your ending reply!
"If they would have started the agitation one click sooner for the rinse portion of the cycle, that would have solved the problem...{but then they didn't ask me!}" That was great and how true, if the Manufacture's would have only had us to ask question's and get our suggestion's about diferent needs for feature's on their Washer's and Dryer's.
By the way to everyone else, does anyone remember the idea the Whirlpool had some time ago, with the "100-Load" Dryer Lint Filter? I was talking to my Sears Washer and Dryer Sales Friend on Monday and he told me that people complained that the Lint Filter filled up with too much Lint and blocked the Air-Flow, oh well!!! Has anyone ever had one of these and what do you think of that idea?
Big Teddy Bear Hugs to everyone, Steve
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Post# 29999-6/3/2003-17:03 ||| jasonl (New Orleans, LA)
SUBJECT: RE: KENMORE 800
MESSAGE: Where is this dream machine located? How much?